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Chapter 1.                COMTES de FOREZ et de LYON. 1

A.         COMTES de FOREZ, [COMTES de LYON] 1

B.         COMTES de LYON et de FOREZ (COMTES d'ALBON) 13

C.        VICOMTES de LYON.. 36

Chapter 2.                NOBILITY in FOREZ and LYON. 39

A.         SEIGNEURS de MIRIBEL-en-FOREZ. 39

 

 

 

 

Chapter 1.    COMTES de FOREZ et de LYON

 

 

A.      COMTES de FOREZ, [COMTES de LYON]

 

 

In the early 10th century, the pagus Lugdunensis is recorded within the kingdom of Burgundy, as shown for example by a charter dated 23 Apr 943 (under which Conrad King of Burgundy donated property “villam…Boliniacum cum ecclesia in pago Lugdunense” to Cluny)[1], and an undated charter dated to [942/74] (under which Conrad King of Burgundy donated “res site in pago Lucdunensi” to Cluny)[2].  According to Auguste Bernard in his Histoire territoriale du Lyonnais[3], the pagus Lugdunensis comprised the following subdivisions from the early 10th century:

  • a reduced pagus Lugdunensis around the town of Lyon itself. 
  • the pagus Forensis or Forez. 
  • the pagus Rodanensis or Roanne. 
  • the pagus Jiarensis or Giarensis along the banks of the river Gier. 
  • the pagulus Lugdunensis, along the left bank of the Saône, approximately corresponding with the arrondissement of Trévoux. 

Bernard also adds a possible county known as Varisenus or Vausinus or Trahesinus (the author says that the spelling of the word is unclear in the only document which refers to this area[4]) in the north-eastern part, in which no known count has been identified.  In addition, it is possible that the western part of the pagus Lugdunensis was under the jurisdiction of the counts of Auvergne in the early 10th century. 

 

Little information has been found about the earliest counts of Lyon.  The date when the pagus Lugdunensis was first referred to as a county is not known.  However, the mentions of “comitatus” in place of “pagus” are infrequent before the 11th century.  In the cartulary of Savigny, whose charters date from the mid-9th century, the earliest charter naming “comitatu Lugdunensi” instead of “pagus Lugdunensi” is dated 18 Oct 959[5], although this is an isolated example as the majority of charters refer to “pagus” well past the mid-11th century.  This documentary evidence suggests that the pagus of Lyon never evolved into a county like other pagi elsewhere in France in the 10th and 11th centuries.  Possible early 10th century references to counts named Guillaume may provide a false trail, as all the documents could refer to the successive counts of Poitou/dukes of Aquitaine, who were also comtes d’Auvergne and who, as noted above, possibly held jurisdiction over part of the county of Lyon.  “Leotaldus [comes] et uxor mea Berta” donated “noster situs in comitatu Lucdunensi” to Cluny by charter dated Mar 943[6], but the donor in this charter is identified as Létaud Comte de Mâcon (and his second wife) who is nowhere recorded as count of Lyon.  Auguste Bernard suggests that the wording of some charters dated to the mid-10th century indicates that the archbishops of Lyon enjoyed temporal as well as spiritual power in the city of Lyon[7], although no document has yet been identified which states expressly that they held the county of Lyon. 

 

The earliest reference to a count of Forez so far identified is the donation to Cluny by "Artaldus comes Forensis" dated 1078, although two generations of his ancestors are recorded with the title "count" without a territorial qualification since 994, as shown below.  The "pagus forensi" was based around Feurs, Monbrison.  Auguste Bernard suggests that the counts of Forez were the only counts in the county of Lyon by the end of the 10th century and that they extended their jurisdiction over the whole county except for the town of Lyon itself[8].  They may have used “Forez” to describe their county to avoid conflict with the archbishops.  Maybe the counts of Forez had always been the only counts in the pagus Lugdunensis.  Agreement between the counts of Forez and the archbishop of Lyon was reached in 1173, after which there was presumably no further question of the title “comte de Lyon”. 

 

The reconstruction of parts of the genealogy of the comtes de Forez is based only on information set out in the work of Jean-Marie de La Mure, which is based on a manuscript dated 1675 but was published in Paris in 1860[9].  As will be seen below, La Mure’s conclusions about some family relationships are based on primary sources which he refers to, but does not quote in full, and for which he cites no precise source references.  It has not proved possible to assess the accuracy of his information, based on published cartularies.  For example, La Mure refers to several charters relating to the monastery of Cluny which are not included in the compilation of Cluny charters published by Bernard and Bruel.  It is not known whether La Mure consulted original documentation which has since disappeared or whether his information is unreliable, although his description of the documents in question is in most cases detailed and includes precise names of the properties donated which does inspire some confidence. 

 

After the death in 1372 of Jean Comte de Forez, last male representative of the line of comtes de Forez descended from the family of the comtes de Viennois, the county passed to Louis II Duc de Bourbon, husband of Jean’s niece Anne de Clermont.  The rights of the duc de Bourbon had been confirmed 18 May 1370, when Charles V King of France authorised the renunciation in his favour by the king’s brother Louis Duc d’Anjou, stated to be "curateur de Mgr Jean de Forez", of his rights in the county[10].  Jean’s mother must have retained some interest in the county despite this renunciation, at least until 5 Jul 1382 when "domina Johanna de Borbonio, relicta…Guidonis comitis Forensis, comitissa Forensis" donated her rights in the county of Forez to "dominam Annam Dalphine duchissam Borbonii, filiam suam et…dominum Ludovicem ducem Borbonii eius nepotem, conjuges"[11].  Louis Duc de Bourbon transferred his rights in Forez to his wife by charter dated 5 Jan 1383[12]

 

 

1.         [GUILLAUME [I] (-after 27 Aug 925).  Auguste Bernard states that "Guillaume Comte de Lyon" divided his territories between his children: "à Guillaume l’aîné…le Lyonnais, à Artaud le Forez, et à Bernard ou Béraud ou Gérard, la sirerie de Beaujolais", but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statement[13].  It appears from his text that he is referring to an earlier "comte Guillaume", and that Guillaume [I] would therefore have been his eldest son.  Paradin quotes a charter dated 913 of Austerius Bishop of Lyon which names “comes Vuillelmus[14], although Auguste Bernard casts doubt on the authenticity of this document which he suggests in any event is incorrectly dated and may in fact refer to Guillaume “le Pieux” Duke of Aquitaine[15].  Paradin quotes another undated charter of “Vuillelmus…Lugdunesium comes[16].  “Remigii archiepiscopi et Vuillelmi comitis” consented to a donation of property “in pago Lugdunensi, in valle Bevronica, in villa…Felice Vulpe” to the abbey of Savigny by charter dated 27 Aug 925[17].  It is possible that the latter two charters refer to Guillaume II Duke of Aquitaine, who is also recorded as Comte d’Auvergne, the comtes d’Auvergne being closely associated at that time with the western part of the county of Lyon as mentioned in the introduction to this Chapter.  The absence of ducal title attributed to Guillaume in these documents is not conclusive: Duke Guillaume is named "Wilelmo iuniore, comite" and "domno illustrissimo marchione Alvernorum et comite Matisconensi", in charters dated May 926 and Dec 926 respectively[18], in relation to his position in the county of Mâcon.  There is therefore no reason to suppose that he would not have been accorded a comital title in documents relating to any jurisdiction he may have had within the county of Lyon.  It is therefore uncertain whether "Guillaume [I] Comte de Lyon" existed as a separate person.] 

 

2.         [GUILLAUME [II] (-after 28 Mar 944).  A charter dated 28 Mar 944 noted the obligations to Cluny of “Ademaro Lugdunensi vicecomite” relating to “Tosciaco”, in the presence of “domni Hugonis…marchionis” and subscribed by “…Leotaldi comitis, Caroli comitis, Vuilelmi comitis…”[19].  The first two subscribers are identified as Letaud Comte de Mâcon and Charles Constantin Comte de Vienne.  It is possible that “Vuilelmi comitis” was Comte de Lyon, although if this is correct it is uncertain why he should be listed third considering that the charter was issued by the vicomte de Lyon.  Another possibility is that “Vuilelmi comitis” was in fact Guillaume I “Tête d'Etoupes/Caput-stupæ” Comte de Poitou who is also recorded as comte d’Auvergne, the comtes d’Auvergne being closely associated with the western part of the county of Lyon as mentioned in the Introduction to this Chapter.  In addition, Auguste Bernard refers to “Adèle sa femme…dans l’obituaire d’Ambierle[20], this being the name of the wife of Guillaume I Comte de Poitou.  If on the other hand, the Guillaume named in 944 was different from the comte de Poitou, it is possible that he was the successor of Guillaume [I] Comte de Lyon, maybe his son.  It is assumed that neither of these Comte Guillaume was related to the family of the later Comtes de Lyon and Forez, in which the name Guillaume appears only from the early 11th century.] 

 

 

1.         [ARTAUD [I] (-[960]).  Auguste Bernard states that Guillaume Comte de Lyon divided his territories between his children: "à Guillaume l’aîné…le Lyonnais, à Artaud le Forez, et à Bernard ou Béraud ou Gérard, la sirerie de Beaujolais", but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statement[21].  If this is correct, Artaud [I] would have been the younger brother of Comte Guillaume [I] shown above.  Samuel Guichenon, in his Histoire de la Souverainté de Dombes written in 1662, refers to Comte Artaud [I] who lived in 900 and his son Geraud, but does not cite the primary source on which this is based[22].  According to Auguste Bernard, Artaud [I] died in 960, but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statement[23].  We are therefore left with no primary source which corroborates the existence of Artaud [I].  m ---.  The name of Artaud's wife is not known.  According to Auguste Bernard, the wife of Artaud [I] was "Taresia", whose death, he says, is recorded "V Id Jun" in the necrology of the priory of Ambierle, but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statement[24].  Artaud [I] & his wife had one child:]

a)         [GERAUD (-before [984/93]).  Samuel Guichenon, in his Histoire de la Souverainté de Dombes written in 1662, refers to Comte Artaud [I] who lived in 900 and his son Géraud, but cites no primary source on which this is based[25].  According to Auguste Bernard, Géraud died in 990, but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statement[26].]  m GIMBURGIS, daughter of ---.  Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 994 under which "Artaldus comes, Gerardi quondam nobilis viri et Gimbergiæ filius" donated property to Savigny[27].  Géraud & his wife had [six] children: 

i)          ARTAUD [II] (-[993 or 999] or [11 Oct 1000]).  "Artaldus comes, Gerardi quondam nobilis viri et Gimbergiæ filius" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi in ago Cegniacensi…in villa Toriniaco" to Savigny by charter dated 994, subscribed by "Artaldi comitis et uxoris eius Theodebergiæ"[28]

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ii)         [ONFROI .  Guichenon cites earlier secondary sources which quote an epitaph (disappeared by 1662 when Guichenon was writing) which records the death in "the year 99" of "Artaudus comes Lugdunensis et comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci et Umfredus frater eius et mater eorum"[29].  The editor of the 1874 edition of Guichenon records yet another version, from "la chronique trouvée à Belleville" which reads "…Artaldus comes Lugd. et Forensis dns Stephanus comes frater eius et Amphredus Bellijoci dns et pater et frater eorum, obiit dictus Artaldus 993".  Guichenon concludes that the epitaph is unlikely to be genuine, based on his supposition that pre-1000 epitaphs are infrequent and that those which exist record only names and titles not the territories ruled[30].] 

iii)        [ETIENNE (-before [984/85]).  The editor of the 1874 edition of Guichenon records a version of an epitaph, from "la chronique trouvée à Belleville", which reads "…Artaldus comes Lugd. et Forensis dns Stephanus comes frater eius et Amphredus Bellijoci dns et pater et frater eorum, obiit dictus Artaldus 993"[31].]

iv)       HUGUES (-after 993).  Paradin quotes a charter dated 993 under which “Artaldi comitis” donated property to “l’église de sainct Iregny”, signed by “Artaldi…comitis…coniugis Tetbergiæ, Hugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adelcellina abbatissa[32].  Abbé d’Ainay[33].  "Artaldi comitis" donated property to the church of Saint-Irénée de Lyon by charter dated "pridie Kal Jul, xlviii anno regni Chunradi" ([985/86]), subscribed by "domni Artaldi…comitis…cum…conjuge…Tetbergiæ…domni Ugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adcelinæ abbatissæ…"[34]

v)        [ADESCELINE .  Abbess of Saint-Pierre de Lyon.  According to Auguste Bernard, "Adesceline abbesse de Saint-Pierre de Lyon" was the daughter of Gérard Comte de Forez, but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statement[35].  "Artaldi comitis" donated property to the church of Saint-Irénée de Lyon by charter dated "pridie Kal Jul, xlviii anno regni Chunradi" ([985/86]), subscribed by "domni Artaldi…comitis…cum…conjuge…Tetbergiæ…domni Ugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adcelinæ abbatissæ…"[36].  Her position in the list of subscribers may indicate that she was the donor’s sister but this is not certain.] 

 

 

ARTAUD [II], son of GERAUD & his wife Gimburgis --- (-[993 or 999] or [11 Oct 1000]).  "Artaldi comitis" donated property to the church of Saint-Irénée de Lyon by charter dated "pridie Kal Jul, xlviii anno regni Chunradi" ([985/86]), subscribed by "domni Artaldi…comitis…cum…conjuge…Tetbergiæ…domni Ugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adcelinæ abbatissæ…"[37].  "Artaldus comes, Gerardi quondam nobilis viri et Gimbergiæ filius" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi in ago Cegniacensi…in villa Toriniaco" to Savigny by charter dated 994, subscribed by "Artaldi comitis et uxoris eius Theodebergiæ"[38].  "Artaldus comes" donated property to Cluny by charter dated Apr 995[39].  It is possible that the seigneurs de Beaujeu (see the document BURGUNDY DUCHY NOBILITY) were related in some way to the comtes de Lyon et de Forez.  Samuel Guichenon, in his Histoire de la Souverainté de Dombes written in 1662, cites earlier secondary sources which quote an epitaph (disappeared by the date of Guichenon's work) which records the death in "the year 99" of "Artaudus comes Lugdunensis et comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci et Umfredus frater eius et mater eorum qui obiit anno 99"[40].  Guichenon cites another version of the epitaph, from "une ancienne généalogie manuscrite" which he found in the archives of the "chapitre de Saint-Jean de Lyon"[41], which reads "Artaudus comes Lugdunensis ac Forensis, dominus Bellijoci, anno 999" and "Artaldus filius et mater eius".  The editor of the 1874 edition of Guichenon records yet another version, from "la chronique trouvée à Belleville" which reads "…Artaldus comes Lugd. et Forensis dns Stephanus comes frater eius et Amphredus Bellijoci dns et pater et frater eorum, obiit dictus Artaldus 993"[42].  Guichenon's conclusion is that none of these versions is likely to be genuine, based on his supposition that pre-1000 epitaphs are infrequent and that those which exist record only names and titles not the territories ruled[43].  Paradin notes that “deux escussons des armoiries de Forez et Beaujolais” were on the epitaph[44].  Auguste Bernard confirms that the inscription could not therefore have been contemporary as such arms did not exist in the 10th century[45].  We are therefore left with little evidence to corroborate the claimed family connection with the seigneurs de Beaujeu. 

m (before 1 Jul [985/86]) as her first husband, TEUTBERGA, daughter of --- (-9 Jun ----, after 13 Apr 1013).  Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 994 under which "Artaldus comes, Gerardi quondam nobilis viri et Gimbergiæ filius" donated property to Savigny, subscribed by "Artaldi comitis et uxoris eius Theodebergiæ"[46].  "Artaldi comitis" donated property to the church of Saint-Irénée de Lyon by charter dated "pridie Kal Jul, xlviii anno regni Chunradi" ([985/86]), subscribed by "domni Artaldi…comitis…cum…conjuge…Tetbergiæ…domni Ugonis abbatis fratris eius, Adcelinæ abbatissæ…"[47].  She married secondly ([1001/08], repudiated) as his second wife, Pons Comte de Gévaudan et de Forez (-[26 Feb 1011/1016]), who was murdered by his stepson, Artaud Comte de Forez, in revenge for the repudiation of his mother Teutberga[48]"Poncius…comes…Gabalitanensis telluris necnon et Forensis patriæ" donated "ecclesiam Langat…in comitatu Gabalitensi, aliam ecclesiam…Favairolas…" to Saint-Julien de Brioude, for the souls of "genitorum suorum Stephani et Alais et uxoris eius Theotbergæ et filiorum eius Stephani et Poncii vel fratrum eius Bertrandi et Willelmus et nepotum eius Stephani, Rotberti et Willelmi", by charter dated Feb [1010], signed by "Roberti vicecomitis, Willelmi fratris eius…"[49].  "Tedberga comitissa" donated property to Cluny for the souls of "senioris mei Artaldi et filiorum meorum Artaldi et Giraldi" by charter dated Mar 1010[50].  It is noted in the compilation that the document was subscribed by "Artaldi senioris eius, Artaldi filii eius, Giraldi filii eius" but that these subscriptions are only found in the cartulary version, the subscribers being unrecorded in the original charter[51].  There is clearly a mismatch between these signatories and the date of death of Artaud [II], assuming that both his death date and the date of the charter are correct.  The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "V Id Jun" of "Tyeburga comitissa que dedit Sancto Stephano duos anaphos argenteos et unam fibulam auream cum preciosissimis gemmis"[52]"Theuterga…comitissa" donated property to the abbey of Ainay for the soul of "senioris mei Artbaldi" by charter dated 13 Apr 1012, subscribed by "Rothildis filie sue"[53]

Artaud [II] & his wife had three children: 

1.         ARTAUD [III] (-[11 Feb] ---- or [24 Mar] ----, before [1017]).  "Girardus comes" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi in ago Tarnantensi in finibus villæ…Conziacus" to Savigny for the souls of "patris mei Artaldi et matris meæ Theotbergiæ et fratris mei Artaldi" by charter dated [1017][54].  The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "III Id Feb" of "Artaldus comes, qui dedit Sancto Stephano…Flescanges villam" and the death "IX Kal Apr" of "Artaldus vicecomes qui dedit Lucennacum Sancto Stephano"[55], although it is not known to which Artaud these entries refer.  The necrology of Savigny records the death "IV Id Feb" of "Arthaudus comes Forensis qui…dedit prioratum de Arnaco…"[56]

2.         GERAUD (-[5 Mar or 20 Sep] after 1046).  "Girardus comes" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi in ago Tarnantensi in finibus villæ…Conziacus" to Savigny for the souls of "patris mei Artaldi et matris meæ Theotbergiæ et fratris mei Artaldi" by charter dated [1017][57].  "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d’Aurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l’Ecluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[58].  Radulfus Glaber records that “Geraldus comes” attempted to impose “suum filium puerulum” (unnamed) as archbishop of Lyon after the death of archbishop Burchard in 1033[59].  "Girardi comitis" witnessed a charter dated 1046 under which "Gauzerannus" donated property "ecclesiam Sancti Joannis Baptistæ de Tarnanto…et ecclesiam Sancti Victorie…in pago Lugdunensi" to the abbey of Savigny[60].  The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "III Non Mar" of "Geraldus comes"[61].  The necrology of the priory of Ambierle en Roannois records the death "XII Kal Oct" of "Gerardus comes"[62]m ADELAIDE, daughter of ---.  "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d’Aurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l’Ecluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[63].  According to Auguste Bernard, she was Adelaide, daughter of Pons de Gévaudun & [his first wife ---], but he cites no primary or secondary source on which this is based[64].  The source in question appears to be La Mure, which provides the same information but also omits any primary source reference[65].  Géraud & his wife had five children: 

a)         ARTAUD [IV] (-[14 May 1078/6 Dec 1079]).  "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d’Aurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l’Ecluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[66]Comte de Forez

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b)         GEOFFROY GUILLAUME .  "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d’Aurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l’Ecluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[67]

c)         [ROTULPHE ([1015/25]-).  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez names "Rotulpha ou Rotulphe de Forez" as "la seconde des fille de [Comte Géraud]", adding that she married "Guy I Seigneur de Lavieu…vicomte"[68].  He cites "Antoine de Laval" as his source, the preceding page clarifying that this refers to "les mémoires manuscrits du docte Forésien Antoine de Laval", presumably a contemporary of La Mure’s although this is not stated[69].  Auguste Bernard also refers to her and her marriage, citing La Mure but no other source[70].  In the absence of any primary source, there must be some doubt about her existence and marriage, based on the following reasoning.  "Geraldi…comitis…Vuigonis senioris" subscribed the undated charter, "regnante Rodulfo rege" so dated to [993/1032], under which "filii Fredelanni, Hugo et Bernardus" founded the priory of Arnas in Beaujolais[71].  La Mure identifies the subscribers as Géraud Comte de Forez and Guigues [Vicomte] de Lavieu[72].  If this identification is correct, the dating of the charter quoted above suggests that Rotulphe (if she existed) was probably too young to have been the wife of Vicomte Guigues.  In addition, other sources (see Part C of this chapter below) name Guigues [I] Vicomte [de Lyon] in 982 and [1030], and name his wife Euphemia.  It is therefore likely that "Guigues de Lavieu Vicomte" was the same person as Guigues [I] Vicomte de Lyon.  m GUIGUES de Lavieu, son of ---.] 

d)         [son ([1020/25]-).  Radulfus Glaber records that “Geraldus comes” attempted to impose “suum filium puerulum” (unnamed) as archbishop of Lyon after the death of archbishop Burchard in 1033[73].  It would seem that a birth date range of [1020/25] would be consistent with “puerulum”.  The name of this son is not known.  He may have been the son who is named Geoffroy Guillaume above.] 

e)         [PREVE .  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez names "Sainte Prève" as the daughter of "Gérard…comte de Lyon et de Forez…et…Adalaix", citing "la tradition locale…de Pomiers" and adding that she founded the priory of Pomiers en Forez and was murdered by her brothers after refusing to marry a local lord[74].  He cites no primary source on which he bases his statements, and until confirmation emerges it is preferable to show Prève in square brackets to indicate doubt about her affiliation.] 

3.         ROTHILDIS (-after 13 Apr 1012).  "Theuterga…comitissa" donated property to the abbey of Ainay for the soul of "senioris mei Artbaldi" by charter dated 13 Apr 1012, subscribed by "Rothildis filie sue"[75]

 

 

ARTAUD [IV] de Forez, son of GERAUD Comte de Forez & his wife Adelaide --- (-[14 May 1078/6 Dec 1079]).  "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d’Aurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l’Ecluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[76]Comte de Forez.  Auguste Bernard cites a charter dated to before 1061 under which Artaud, son of Gérard, confirmed a donation to the church of Aurec, approved by his (unnamed) wife[77].  Pope Gregory VII excommunicated Comte Artaud at the council of Worms in 1076 for his attacks on the church of Lyon[78].  "Vuillelmus comes Foresii" donated property to Savigny by charter dated [14 May 1078] which names "comes Artaldus pater eius"[79]

m RAYMONDE, daughter of ---.  "Raymode matre mea" consented to the donation to Cluny dated 1078 by "Artaldus comes Forensis", named immediately after "Willelmus filius eius [Artaldi]"[80]

Artaud [II] & his wife had two children: 

1.         GUILLAUME [I] (-killed in battle Nikaia Jun 1097).  "Vuillelmus comes Foresii" donated property to Savigny by charter dated [14 May 1078] which names "comes Artaldus pater eius"[81].  "Vuillelmi comitis filii Artaldi" subscribed a charter dated 6 Dec 1079 under which "Falco de Yconio" donated property to Savigny in praise of "Artaldi Forisiensis comitis"[82]Comte de Forez.  "Willelmus filius eius" consented to the donation to Cluny dated 1078 by "Artaldus comes Forensis"[83].  "Willelmus comes Forensis" donated the church of Saint-Julien de Moind lez Montbrison to the archbishop of Lyon, before leaving for Jerusalem, by charter dated 1096, before 10 Dec[84]William of Tyre names “Guillelmus comes de Foreis” among those who left on the First Crusade in 1096 with Robert Count of Flanders[85]Albert of Aix names "…comes una Willelmus de castello Foreis…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[86]William of Tyre names “Willelmus comes de Foreis” among those killed during the siege of Nikaia[87]Albert of Aix records that "…comes de Foreis…" was killed at the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[88]m WANDALMODE de Beaujeu, daughter of GUICHARD [II] Seigneur de Beaujeu & his wife Richoara [de Salernay].  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.  She is not named as the wife of Comte Guillaume [I] by La Mure.  Guillaume [I] & his wife had two children: 

a)         GUILLAUME [II] (-after 1107).  "Filii eius…Guillermus et Eustachius" confirmed the donation by "pater Guillermus" to Montbrison by undated charter[89]Comte de Forez.  Auguste Bernard refers to a charter dated 1107 which was issued by Comte Guillaume but does not provide the source reference[90].  He became a Carthusian monk[91].  He was assassinated by Gauceran vicomte de Lavieu who accused Guillaume of having raped his wife[92]

b)         EUSTACHE (-[1110/17]).  "Filii eius…Guillermus et Eustachius" confirmed the donation by "pater Guillermus" to Montbrison by undated charter[93]Comte de Forez.  Auguste Bernard refers to a charter under which Eustache granted the château de Saint-Trivier to the seigneur de Beaujeu but does not provide the source reference[94].  No primary source has been identified which provides any indication of the date of Eustache’s death but presumably he did not long survive his older brother. 

2.         [ITA Raymonde] .  The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married firstly "filiam unicam [Artaldi] comitis Foratensis"[95].  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez states that "Guy-Raymond de Viennois" married "Ide-Raymonde de Forez, fille d’Artaud V…comte de Lyon et de Forez et d’Ide son épouse" and refers to the couple’s donation of "quelques terres situées au pays de Forez" to Cluny dated 1085, adding that the property in question was Ita’s dowry[96].  La Mure does not quote the charter nor does he provide a precise source reference, apart from referring to Guichenon’s Histoire de Savoie.  This charter has not been found in the compilation of Cluny charters edited by Bernard and Bruel so presumably it has since disappeared.  It is not now therefore possible to state whether the charter explicitly confirms Ita Raymonde’s affiliation, although on this point there appears no reason to doubt that La Mure had the document available when he was writing as his description of its contents is precise.  Two difficulties remain.  The first is the date of the supposed Cluny charter, as at that time Guigues would still have been a child (his estimated birth date appears robust).  The second difficulty is that Ita must have been considerably older than her second husband, assuming that she was the same daughter who had previously married Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers, as she had a daughter by her first marriage when Guigues Raymond must still have been an infant.  These problems would be solved if Artaud [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon in fact had two daughters, despite the Origine et Historia asserting that Comte Renaud’s wife was "filiam unicam".  It should be noted that no source has been identified which confirms that Guigues’s wife had previously been the wife of Comte Renaud.  If there was really only one daughter, she must have been divorced from her first husband, although no source has been found which confirms that this is correct.  It should be noted that La Mure asserts that Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers was Ita’s second husband, married after the death of Guigues, but this appears difficult to reconcile with the chronology of the different families with which she was connected.  [m firstly ([divorced]) as his first wife, RENAUD [II] Comte de Nevers, son of GUILLAUME [I] Comte de Nevers & his wife Ermengarde Ctss de Tonnerre (-5 Aug 1089).]  [m secondly (before 1085) GUIGUES RAYMOND d'Albon, son of GUIGUES [II] "Vetus" Comte d'Albon & his second wife Ines de Barcelona ([1074/75]-5 Dec after 1096).] 

 

 

 

B.      COMTES de LYON et de FOREZ (COMTES d'ALBON)

 

 

GUY [I] d'Albon, son of GUIGUES RAYMOND d'Albon & his wife Ita Raymond de Forez ([1095]-26 or 27 Oct 1138).  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez states that "Guigues ou Guy I…comte de Lyon et de Forez" was the son of Guigues-Raymond and his wife Ita Raymonde and refers to his donation to Cluny dated 1137 for the souls of "son père ledit Guigues surnommé Raymond et…sa mere ladite Ide surnommée Raymonde"[97].  La Mure does not quote the charter in question nor provide a precise source reference, apart from referring to "les sieurs Du Bouchet, d’Hozier et Guichenon".  This charter has not been found in the compilation of Cluny charters edited by Bernard and Bruel so presumably has since disappeared.  The family origin of Guy/Guigues appears confirmed by another charter, dated 1173, quoted by La Mure (also without providing the source citation reference) under which his grandson "comes Guigo" donated property "a Vienna usque ad Antonem et usque Burgundium" to the church of Lyon on condition he did not succeed to [the county of Viennois] ("nisi jure hæreditario, ex linea consanguinitatis aliis exclusis, ad ipsum successio fueris devoluta")[98].  He succeeded in [1110/17] as Comte de Lyon et de Forez.  "Guigo comes Forensis" donated property to Montbrison by undated charter[99].  The necrology of Savigny records the death "VI Kal Nov" of "Guigo comes Forensis qui ecclesie nostra dedit xxx s forcium annuales…"[100].  The necrology of Saint-Thomas-en-Forez records the death "VII Kal Nov" of "Guido comes Forensis"[101]

m [--- de Beaujeu, daughter of GUICHARD [III] Seigneur de Beaujeu & his wife Lucienne de Rochefort.  Her parentage and marriage are assumed from the charter dated to [1170] under which "Humbertus de Bellojoco" confirmed that "Guigo comes Forensis nepos meus" relinquished claims over Savigny abbey[102].] 

Guy [I] & his wife had [two] children: 

1.         [GUILLAUME (-after 1135).  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez names "Guillaume" as eldest son of Comte Guy [I] and his wife, adding that "selon les mémoires du sieur de Laval" he became a Carthusian monk in 1135[103].  La Mure cites no primary source which confirms Guillaume’s parentage.] 

2.         GUY [II] (-6 Dec 1206, bur Abbaye de Bonlieu).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.  Comte de Lyon (until [1173]) et de Forez.  "Guigo comes Forensis" granted safe passage to the Knights Hospitallers by charter dated 16 Jul 1158, witnessed by "Humberto…de Bellojoco et filiis eiusdem Gui et Humberto…"[104].  "Guigonem comitem Forensem" reached agreement with the church of Lyon by charter dated 15 Oct 1167[105].  Pope Alexander III confirmed an agreement between "Guigoni Forensi comiti…et filium tuum Guigonem" and the archbishop of Lyon concerning the church of Lyon, by bull dated 1 Apr 1173[106].  "Guigo comes Forensis et…Guigo filius eius" donated property to the monastery of Val-Benoît by charter dated 1184[107].  "Guigo comes Forensis et Raynaldus primæ ecclesiæ Lugdun. archiepiscopus" confirmed a donation to the monastery of Val-Benoît made by "matrone…Willelma de Rossillone soror Jauserandi de Piseys et mater Bearudæ uxoris Ramerii Albe de Chamas" by charter dated 1195[108]"Patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa" consented to the charter dated Dec 1203 under which "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother[109]"Guigo comes Forensis" confirmed donations to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu by "virum nobilem Willelmum de Baffia", confirming donations by "avus suus…Willelmus de Baffia", by charter dated 1205[110].  "Guigo comes Forensis" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu by charter dated 1206[111].  The necrology of Saint-Thomas-en-Forez records the death "VIII Id Dec" of "Guigo comes"[112]m GUILLELME, daughter of --- (-12 May ----).  The following document indicates a relationship between Renaud Archbishop of Lyon and the family of the seigneurs d’Anthon; maybe this was through the archbishop’s mother: Renaud [de Forez] Archbishop of Lyon confirmed that Guichardus de Antono consanguineus meus...nepos Hugonis de Coloniaco” had confirmed exemption from tolls, granted to the Chartreux of Portes by “domino Guichardo patre prædicti Guichardi consanguinei mei”, by charter dated 1218[113]The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "IV Id Mai" of "Willelma comitissa Forensis mater domini Raynaudi quondam archiepiscopi Lugdunensis"[114].  The necrology of Savigny also records the death "IV Id Mai" of "domina Villerma comitissa Forensi mater domini Reynaudi comitis Forensis"[115].  The necrology of Saint-Pierre, Lyon records the death "IV Id Mai" of "Guillelma comitissa de Foreis"[116].  Guy [II] & his wife had four children: 

a)         GUY [III] (-Acre 28 Nov [1202], bur Acre, Church of St John).  Pope Alexander III confirmed an agreement between "Guigoni Forensi comiti…et filium tuum Guigonem" and the archbishop of Lyon concerning the church of Lyon, by bull dated 1 Apr 1173[117]Comte de Forez

-        see below

b)         RENAUD de Forez (-21 Oct 1226).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death of "archiepiscopus Lugdunensis Renaldus…filius comitis Forensis"[118]Archbishop of Lyon [1193].  "Guigo comes Forensis et Raynaldus primæ ecclesiæ Lugdun. archiepiscopus" confirmed a donation to the monastery of Val-Benoît made by "matrone…Willelma de Rossillone soror Jauserandi de Piseys et mater Bearudæ uxoris Ramerii Albe de Chamas" by charter dated 1195[119].  Regent of Forez 1203/15.  "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother, with the consent of "patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa", by charter dated Dec 1203[120].  "Rainaudus…prime Lugdunensis ecclesie minister" confirmed the grant of exemptions to the Chartreuse d'Oujon by "Guigo comes Forensis pater noster", by charter dated 1212[121]"Raynaudus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister" founded an anniversary for "fratris nostri Guigonis comitis Foresii…qui sepultus fuit apud Accon in ecclesia Hospitalis", with the consent of "Guigonis nepotis nostri", by charter dated 1215 which names "Guigo comes pater noster"[122]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1227 of “archiepiscopus Lugdunensis Renaldus...filius comitis Forensis” and the succession of “episcopus Clarimontensis de Alvernia Robertus cuius frater fuit Guido comes Alvernensis[123].  The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "XI Kal Nov" of "Raynaudus archiepiscopus Lugdunensis"[124]

c)         HUMBERT (-5 Apr ----).  Canon of St Jean, Lyon.  Abbot of Saint-Just.  The necrology of Saint-Pierre, Lyon records the death "Non Apr" of "Humbertus abbas S Justi filius comitis Forensis"[125]

d)         CLEMENCE .  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.  She is not mentioned by La Mure.  1229. 

 

 

GUY [III] de Forez, son of GUY [II] Comte de Forez & his wife Guillelme --- (-Acre 28 Nov [1202], bur Acre, Church of St John).  Pope Alexander III confirmed an agreement between "Guigoni Forensi comiti…et filium tuum Guigonem" and the archbishop of Lyon concerning the church of Lyon, by bull dated 1 Apr 1173[126].  "Guigo comes Forensis et…Guigo filius eius" donated property to the monastery of Val-Benoît by charter dated 1184[127]Comte de Forez.  "Guigo comes Lugdunensis atque Forensis" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, with the consent of "uxor eius…Alix…coram patre meo Guigone comite" by charter dated 1201[128].  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez reports the death at Acre of Comte Guy "suivant les mémoires du sieur de Laval" and his burial "en l’église…[des] chevaliers de Saint-Jean de Jérusalem", dating the event to after a charter he issued in France dated 1202 and before the election of Baudouin IX Count of Flanders as emperor in 1204, settling for 1202 as the year of his death[129].  The necrology of Saint-Thomas-en-Forez records the death "IV Kal Dec" of "Guigo comes"[130]"R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother, with the consent of "patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa", by charter dated Dec 1203[131].  The dating of this charter suggests that 1202 was the correct year of Comte Guy’s death, as it is unlikely that news of the event could have reached western Europe from the near East by Dec 1203 if he has died at the end of the previous month.  His place of burial is confirmed by the charter dated 1215 under which his brother "Raynaudus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister" founded an anniversary for "fratris nostri Guigonis comitis Foresii…qui sepultus fuit apud Accon in ecclesia Hospitalis", with the consent of "Guigonis nepotis nostri"[132]

m firstly (repudiated) ASCURAA, daughter of ---.  The fact of this first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated Mar [1241/42] under which “Guillermus de Bafes miles” recorded his agreement with “Guiodum de Foreis” which names “comes Guido de Foreis, defunctus, avus meus…ex parte prime uxoris sue legittime, que fuit mater matris mee” and adds that Guy [III] Comte de Forez was also father of “comes Guido de Nevers, pater dicti Guidi” by his second wife married during the lifetime of his first wife[133].  Her name is confirmed by the charter dated 1244 under which her grandson "Guillelmus de Bafia junior" reached agreement with "G. comitem Forensem" concerning his rights to "toto comitatu Forensi" which he held "jure hereditario partim nomine avie mee l’Ascuraa…mater mea unica filia et heres ipsius…filia unica comitis Forensis Guigonis Branda et neptis comitis patri Magni", with the consent of "domino Guillelmo de Bafia patre nostro"[134].  As discussed in more detail below, Boudet misinterprets the source which confirms "S" as the initial letter of the name of Ascuraa’s daughter as applying to Ascuraa herself, and suggests that "Ascuraa" was a nickname[135].  A suggestion about her family origin is made by Durand who points out that an article in the charter dated 1244, which records the settlement between the Baffie and Forez families, provides that "le comte Guy V" will help "Guillaume de Baffie" to enter in possession of "la terre de Saint-Bonnet" if "Dauphine fille de Josserand de Saint-Bonnet vient à mourir sans enfants"[136], and concludes that "on est amené à conclure que l’Ascuraa elle-même était une fille de la maison de Saint-Bonnet" through whom Guillaume de Baffie had a legitimate claim to inherit the territory[137]

m secondly ALIX, daughter of --- (-before 21 Aug 1222, bur Bonlieu).  "Guigo comes Lugdunensis atque Forensis" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, with the consent of "uxor eius…Alix…coram patre meo Guigone comite" by charter dated 1201[138].  According to La Mure, she was "Alix…de Sully" but he cites no primary source which confirms that this is correct[139].  If this family origin is right, from a chronological point of view she must have been the daughter of Gilles [III] Seigneur de Sully who died in [1195].  However, none of the names associated with the Sully family are found among her descendants and, until further information comes to light, there seems to be an insufficient factual basis to show the connection by hyperlink, even in square brackets.  Another indication of her family origin is provided by the charter dated Oct 1220 under which “Rainaudus et Hulricus, fratres, filii quondam vicecomitis Matisconensis” granted property “quicquid habebant ultra Ligerim…Croset” to “Guigoni comiti Forisiensi nepoti nostro[140].  The precise family relationship between the comtes de Forez and vicomtes de Mâcon has not been traced, but it may have been through the mother of the donee under this charter, Guy [IV] Comte de Forez.  "Patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa" consented to the charter dated Dec 1203 under which "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother[141]Her date of death is set by the charter dated 21 Aug 1222 under which "Comes Forensis Guigo" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, for the soul of "Alasiæ matris meæ bonæ memoriæ"[142].  Her place of burial is confirmed by the charter dated Jun 1225 under which "Guigo comes Forensis" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, for the burial of "matris nostræ"[143]

Guy [III] & his first wife had one child: 

1.         S--- (-after 1254).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated Mar [1241/42] under which “Guillermus de Bafes miles” recorded his agreement with “Guiodum de Foreis” which names “comes Guido de Foreis, defunctus, avus meus…ex parte prime uxoris sue legittime, que fuit mater matris mee” and adds that Guy [III] Comte de Forez was also father of “comes Guido de Nevers, pater dicti Guidi…frater fuit mater matris meæ superius nominatæ” by his second wife whom he married during the lifetime of his first wife[144].  Baluze records as unknown the name of the wife of Guillaume [II] de Baffie[145].  La Mure states that "la troisième et dernière fille de Guy III Comte de Forez" was "Eléonore de Forez" who, after the termination of her betrothal to "Guillaume fils de Guy II Comte d’Auvergne", married "un grand seigneur d’Auvergne nommé Guillaume de Baffie, seigneur de Baffie et de Viveron"[146].  In this way, La Mure conflates the daughter of Comte Guy [III] by his first marriage, who married Guillaume de Baffie, with his younger daughter who was betrothed to Guillaume d’Auvergne.  Secondary sources since that time have consistently stated that the wife of Guillaume de Baffie was named Eléonore, but it appears that there is no primary source which confirms that this is correct.  An indication of her name has been found: Vachez records that "M. Noël Thiollier" examined the original of the Mar [1241/42] charter "aux Archives Nationales" and found that the phrase "mater matris meæ superius nominatæ" in fact reads "mater matris meæ superius nominatæ S"[147].  Boudet incorrectly assumes that "S" in this document refers to Guillaume de Baffie’s mother-in-law, who is referred to as "Ascuraa" in other sources which Boudet therefore suggests was a nickname[148].  However, it is clear from the Latin of the passage that "matris meæ superius nominatæ S" constitutes a single phrase, all in the genitive case, and that "S" therefore refers to Guillaume’s wife not his mother-in-law ("mater" in the same document, nominative case).  m GUILLAUME [II] Seigneur de Baffie, son of DALMAS [III] Seigneur de Baffie & his wife --- (-after 1254). 

Guy [III] & his second wife had [six] children: 

2.         GUY [IV] (-Castellaneta, Apulia 29 Oct 1241, bur Notre-Dame de Montbrison)"Patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa" consented to the charter dated Dec 1203 under which "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother[149]His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Mar [1241/42] under which “Guillermus de Bafes miles” recorded his agreement with “Guiodum de Foreis” which names “comes Guido de Foreis, defunctus, avus meus…ex parte prime uxoris sue legittime, que fuit mater matris mee” and adds that Guy [III] Comte de Forez was also father of “comes Guido de Nevers, pater dicti Guidi” by his second wife married during the lifetime of his first wife[150]Comte de Forez.  "Raynaudus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister" founded an anniversary for "fratris nostri Guigonis comitis Foresii…qui sepultus fuit apud Accon in ecclesia Hospitalis", with the consent of "Guigonis nepotis nostri", by charter dated 1215 which names "Guigo comes pater noster"[151].  “Rainaudus et Hulricus, fratres, filii quondam vicecomitis Matisconensis” granted property “quicquid habebant ultra Ligerim…Croset” to “Guigoni comiti Forisiensi nepoti nostro” by charter dated Oct 1220[152].  "Comes Forensis Guigo" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, for the soul of "Alasiæ matris meæ bonæ memoriæ", by charter dated 21 Aug 1222[153].  "Guigo comes Forensis" founded the church of Notre-Dame de l’Espérance de Montbrison by charter dated 1223[154].  He succeeded as Comte de Nevers in 1226, by right of his wife.  William of Tyre (Continuator) names "le conte de Fores qui estoit cuens de Nevers de par sa feme" among those who took part in the crusade from France which landed at Acre in 1239[155].  He died while returning from Crusade with Thibaut King of Navarre, Comte de Champagne[156].  The testament of "comes Nivernensis et Forensis" is dated 1239, before leaving on crusade, and names "Guigonem filium meum primogenitum…Raynaldum alium meum" (adding that he wished the latter to enter the church)[157]Betrothed (Betrothed [1205/06], [terminated?]) to PHILIPPA [Mathilde] de Dampierre, daughter of GUY [II] Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube et de Bourbon & his wife Mathilde Dame de Bourbon (-1223).  Philippe II King of France confirmed the conditions of the proposed marriages between "Guigue fils du comte de Forez, et une fille de Guy de Dampierre" and "Archambaud, fils de Guy de Dampierre, et Guigone, fille dudit comte de Forez" by charter dated [10 Apr 1205/1 Apr 1206][158].  The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.  This betrothal was presumably terminated before the series of disputes which broke out between the Forez and Dampierre/Bourbon families in 1210, which led to Guy’s betrothal to Ermengarde d’Auvergne, but later revived.  Betrothed (1210, [terminated?]) to ERMENGARDE d'Auvergne, daughter of GUY [II] Comte d'Auvergne & his wife Petronille de Chambon (-16 Jan 1225).  An undated charter records that "Reginaldus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister…et pater meus comes Forensis et Guido comes Arverniæ" agreed the marriages, firstly of "G. fratris mei" and "filias G. comitis Arverniæ", and secondly of "filius…dicti comitis Arverniæ" and "filiam fratris mei G. quondam comitis Forensis"[159].  La Mure describes the background to this betrothal: Philippe II King of France had dispossessed Guy [II] of his county in 1210 in reprisal for his persecution of his brother Robert Bishop of Clermont, Guy de Dampierre Seigneur de Bourbon supported the king in this move, while the county of Forez supported the comte d’Auvergne[160].  However, in a later passage he records that the betrothal of the daughter of Guy de Forez and Guillaume [X] d’Auvergne was terminated "par le changement des affaires qui survint ès Maisons d’Auvergne et de Forez"[161].  La Mure does not state what happened to Ermengarde’s betrothal to Guy [IV] Comte de Forez at the time, but it appears likely that it was terminated too, and presumably revived at some later date after the death of Guy’s first wife.  m firstly ([1216]) PHILIPPA [Mathilde] de Dampierre, daughter of GUY [II] Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube et de Bourbon & his wife Mathilde Dame de Bourbon (-1223).  Philippe II King of France confirmed the conditions of the proposed marriages between "Guigue fils du comte de Forez, et une fille de Guy de Dampierre" and "Archambaud, fils de Guy de Dampierre, et Guigone, fille dudit comte de Forez" by charter dated [10 Apr 1205/1 Apr 1206][162].  The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.  La Mure dates this marriage to "environ 1216"[163].  As noted above, the political difficulties involving the Forez, Bourbon-Dampierre, and Auvergne families must have resulted in the earlier betrothal to Philippa [Mathilde] being terminated but later revived.  The primary source which confirms the actual marriage has not yet been identified.  One possibility is that two different daughters of Guy [II] Seigneur de Dampierre were involved, which would explain the different names used in secondary sources.  m secondly (Betrothed 1210 [terminated?], [1223/24]) ERMENGARDE d'Auvergne, daughter of GUY [II] Comte d'Auvergne & his wife Petronille de Chambon (-16 Jan 1225).  An undated charter records that "Reginaldus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister…et pater meus comes Forensis et Guido comes Arverniæ" agreed the marriages, firstly of "G. fratris mei" and "filias G. comitis Arverniæ", and secondly of "filius…dicti comitis Arverniæ" and "filiam fratris mei G. quondam comitis Forensis"[164].  La Mure describes the background to this betrothal: Philippe II King of France had dispossessed Guy [II] of his county in 1210 in reprisal for his persecution of his brother Robert Bishop of Clermont, Guy de Dampierre Seigneur de Bourbon supported the king in this move, while the county of Forez supported the comte d’Auvergne[165].  However, in a later passage he records that the betrothal of the daughter of Guy de Forez and Guillaume [X] d’Auvergne was terminated "par le changement des affaires qui survint ès Maisons d’Auvergne et de Forez"[166].  La Mure does not state what happened to Ermengarde’s betrothal to Guy [IV] Comte de Forez at the time, but it appears likely that it was terminated too, and presumably revived at some later date.  "Guido comes Nivernensis et Forensis" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, for the soul of "bonæ recordationis Ermengardis quondam uxoris meæ comitissæ Forensis", by charter dated [2/7] Jan 1226[167].  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.  The necrology of Saint-Thomas-en-Forez records the death "XVII Kal Feb" of "Ememgertis comitisse"[168]m thirdly (Jul 1226) as her second husband, MATHILDE de Courtenay, Ctss de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre, widow of HERVE [IV] Seigneur de Donzy, daughter of PIERRE I Emperor of Constantinople Seigneur de Courtenay & his first wife Agnes Ctss de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre ([1188]-29 Jul 1257, bur Abbaye de Réconfort, near Monceaux-le-Comte).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildem" as only daughter of "comitis Petris" & his first wife, specifying that she married firstly "Herveio Gaufridi filio de Giam et de Dunzeio" and secondly "comiti Gugoni Forensi"[169].  "Mathildis comitissa Nivernensis" donated property to the abbey of Corbigny by charter dated May 1226 for the soul of "H quondam bone memorie domini et mariti nostri comitis Nivernensis"[170].  "Guido Nivernensis comes et Mathildis comitissa uxor eiusdem comitis" took under their protection a family belonging to Saint-Cyr by charter dated Jan 1229[171].  "G. comes et M. comitissa Nivernensis et Forensis" donated property to the abbey of Bénissons Dieu, for the soul of "bonæ memoriæ quondam comitis Nivernensis", by charter dated Jan 1236[172].  The necrology of Sens cathedral records the death "IV Kal Aug" of "Matildis comitissa Nivernensis"[173].  Guy [IV] & his first wife had two children: 

a)         GUY [V] (-[12 Sep] 1259).  The testament of "comes Nivernensis et Forensis" is dated 1239, before leaving on crusade, and names "Guigonem filium meum primogenitum…Raynaldum alium meum"[174]Comte de Forez.  His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Mar [1241/42] under which “Guillermus de Bafes miles” recorded his agreement with “Guiodum de Foreis” which names “comes Guido de Foreis, defunctus, avus meus…ex parte prime uxoris sue legittime, que fuit mater matris mee” and adds that Guy [III] Comte de Forez was also father of “comes Guido de Nevers, pater dicti Guidi” by his second wife married during the lifetime of his first wife[175].  "Guidonem comitem Forisiensem et Raynaudum de Forisio fratres" and "Humbertum dominum Bellijoci" agreed the dowry for the daughter of the latter "Elizabeth…relictam Simonis quondam domini de Luzi in uxorem Raynaudo supradicto" by charter dated Dec 1247[176].   m (1224) as her first husband, ALIX de Chacenay Dame de Chacenay, daughter of ERARD [III] Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Emmeline de Broyes (-before 1278).  Her two marriages are confirmed by the undated charter under which "Guillelmi vicecomitis de Meloduno et Aalidis uxoris eius" confirmed money received by "prædictæ Aalidis" from "dominum Guidonem quondam comitem Forensem eius virum atque fratrem Renaudi de Foreisio moderni comitis"[177].  Her first marriage is confirmed by the contract of divorce between "Erardus dominus Chascegnay" and "Emeline uxoris mee", with the consent of "Elisabeth domine Castri Villani et Simonis filii sui", dated Sep 1224, which provides for the dowry of "M. filiam meam" on her marriage to "comiti Gigeti"[178], although it is unclear why Alix is referred to as "M".  "Gui comte de Forest et sire de Chacenay" granted concessions "à cause de dame Aalis de Chacenay sa femme, fille de feu Erars seigneur de Chacenay…[à] tous les sujets du dit Chacenay" by charter dated Aug 1255[179].  She married secondly ([12 Sep 1259/10 Aug 1260]) Guillaume [III] Vicomte de Melun.  "Guillelmus vicecomes de Melonduno et Aalidis uxor eius" confirmed receipt of property from "Johanne domino de Castrovillani et fratre Roberto abbate monasterii Arremarnensis" relating to the inheritance of "dicte Aalidis" by charter dated 3 Jul 1261[180].  An arrêt of the Parlement de Paris ordered "comes Forisiensis" to pay the dowry of "Alicie de Chacenaio épouse dudit vicomte" to "vicecomiti Meledunensi" dated 12 Jun 1267[181]

b)         RENAUD (-13 Nov 1270).  The testament of "comes Nivernensis et Forensis" is dated 1239, before leaving on crusade, and names "Guigonem filium meum primogenitum…Raynaldum alium meum" (adding that he wished the latter to enter the church)[182]Comte de Forez 1259. 

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3.         RENAUD (-after Jun 1247).  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez reports a charter dated Jun 1247 (without giving the precise source citation reference) under which "Raynaudus de Foresio canonicus Lugdunensis", as uncle of Guy [V] Comte de Forez, confirmed a transaction involving the convent of Joursey en Forez[183].  Canon at Lyon. 

4.         GUIGONE (-after 1239)"Patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa" consented to the charter dated Dec 1203 under which "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother[184].  Philippe II King of France confirmed the conditions of the proposed marriages between "Guigue fils du comte de Forez, et une fille de Guy de Dampierre" and "Archambaud, fils de Guy de Dampierre, et Guigone, fille dudit comte de Forez" by charter dated [10 Apr 1205/1 Apr 1206][185]No evidence has been found that this marriage was ever finalised.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the marriage of "Gerardus Viennensis comitis filius" and "sororis comitis Forensis Guigonis" but does not name her[186].  The latest date of the marriage is indicated by the following charter: “G. W. comitis Viennæ et Matisconis primogenitus” settled a dispute between his father and Tournus, referring to “mater mea et uxor mea” (both unnamed), by charter dated 1211[187].  "Guigona relicta Gerardi quondam domini Vienne" relinquished her rights in the county of Forez to "G. comes Nivernensis et Forensis frater meus" by charter dated Nov 1230[188].  Dame de Marclop en Forez.  "G. domina de Marclopeio soror nobilis G. comitis Nivernensis et Forensis" donated property to the priory of Saint-Rambers en Forez, by charter dated 30 Dec 1230[189]Betrothed ([1205/06]) to ARCHAMBAUD de Dampierre, son of GUY [II] Seigneur de Dampierre & his wife Mathilde de Bourbon Dame de Bourbon (-killed in battle Cognat, Allier 23 Aug 1242).  He succeeded his mother in 1228 as Seigneur de Bourbonm (before 1211) GERARD [II] Comte de Mâcon, [titular] Comte de Vienne, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Mâcon, [titular] Comte de Vienne [Bourgogne-Comté] & his second wife Scholastique de Champagne (-[1224/25]). 

5.         MARQUISE (-[1237/39])"Patris mei et nepos meus Guigo et sorores eius Guigona et Marquissa et uxor fratris mei Adaladix comitissa" consented to the charter dated Dec 1203 under which "R…Lugdunensis ecclesiæ archiepiscopus" donated property to Cluny, as instructed by "Guidonis fratris mei comitis Forensis" who had assigned "comitatum Forensem in manu mea nomine tutelæ liberorum ipsius, nepotum meorum", to found an anniversary for his brother[190]Her marriage is indicated by the testament of "Raynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci", dated Jun 1270, which names her son "Guidonem consanguinem meum dominum de Tyerno" as his heir in substitution[191]m GUY [VI] Seigneur de Thiern, son of GUY [V] Seigneur de Thiern & his wife Clémence de Courtenay (-after 1233). 

6.         [daughter .  The relationship between the Forez and Roussillon families is indicated by the documents which are quoted below, under "M---", wife of Artaud [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon, who, it is suggested, may have been the daughter of an otherwise unrecorded younger daughter of Guy [III] Comte de Forez.  The arguments on which this proposed relationship is based are as follows.  Firstly, it is not known with certainty whether the connection between the two families was through the father or mother of Guillaume de Roussillon (the son of Artaud [IV] and his wife).  However, the charter dated Nov 1262, quoted below, suggests that the relationship was through his mother: if Artaud [IV] himself had been the relative of the Forez family, it seems that the Nov 1262 document would have been unnecessary as Artaud could automatically have transferred his rights to his oldest son by testament.  Artaud’s presence in the document does not necessarily indicate that he held the rights in his own name: they could be rights held through his wife.  Secondly, the order of beneficiaries in the Jun 1270 testament of Renaud Comte de Forez, quoted below, is presumably significant in determing the natre of the family connection.  The document provides for bequests, in order, to "consanguineo meo domino Ano domino d’Oliergue…Guillelmo de Rossilione consanguineo meo".  The former is identified as Agnon [VI] Seigneur d’Olliergues, the senior male representative of the descendants of the oldest daughter of Guy [III] Comte de Forez who married Guillaume de Baffie (see the document AUVERGNE for the Baffie and Olliergues families).  It is likely therefore that "Guillelmo de Rossilione consanguineo meo" was in some way junior in claim to Agnon [VI].  The marriage of Artaud [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon is dated to [before 1238], which suggests that his wife is unlikely to have been born much later than [1223].  If that date is correct, the chronology of the Olliergues family suggests that it is improbable that she was an otherwise unrecorded younger sister of Agnon [VI]’s mother.  There appear to be two possibilities: either Artaud’s wife was the daughter of an otherwise unrecorded younger daughter of Guy [III] Comte de Forez, or she was the granddaughter of a younger sibling of Comte Guy [III].  The former is the most likely possibility: all the other beneficiaries under the Jun 1270 testament of Renaud Comte de Forez were descendants of his grandfather, and it seems unlikely that Comte Renaud would have considered it necessary to provide in his testament for another family representative descended from his great-grandfather.  In conclusion, until further information comes to light, if the relationship between the Roussillon and Forez families was through Artaud [IV] de Roussillon’s wife, it is likely that she was the daughter of an otherwise unrecorded younger daughter of Guy [III] Comte de Forez.  Concerning the identity of this daughter’s husband, one possibility is that he was Guillaume [II] Comte de Genève.  The connection between the Roussillon and Genève families is suggested by an undated charter under which "Amédée de Genève Evesque de Die" (identified as the son of Comte Guillaume [II]) is called "oncle d’Amédée de Roussillon" (who was a younger son of Artaud [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon)[192].  The testament of "Thomas de Sabaudia primogenitus…domini Thomæ de Sabaudia comitis", dated 14 May 1282, which names "consanguineum meum R. patrem dominum Aymarum archiepiscopum Lugdunensem" (the latter identified as another younger son of Artaud [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon) also indicates a connection as the relationship with the Savoie family was presumably through the comtes de Genéve[193].  Vachez, in an article dealing with the Roussillon family, approaches a conclusion when he states that Artaud [IV]’s wife was "Marie de Genève, fille de Guillaume Comte de Genève et de Marie ou Alix de la Tour"[194].  However, his explanation is contradictory and confusing.  He asserts firstly that the marriage of Artaud [IV] with "Marie" was childless (nullifying completely his explanation for the relationship which is stated in the undated charter) and secondly that Artaud’s children were born from a supposed second marriage with "Artaude de Forez, fille de Guy IV comte de Forez", presumably in an attempt to explain the presence of Guillaume de Roussillon in the Jun 1270 testament of Renaud Comte de Forez.  The major problem with identifying Guillaume [II] Comte de Genève as the father of "M---" is the number of children attributed to Comte Guillaume and his known wife which makes it difficult to explain why "M---" and her descendants should have been singled out in relation to the Forez inheritance.  This difficulty would be resolved if the daughter of Guy [III] Comte de Forez was the first wife of Comte Guillaume and the mother of a single daughter, her husband marrying again after she died.  If all this speculation is correct, it is possible that this daughter was the same one who had earlier been betrothed to Guillaume d’Auvergne, who is described as the last remaining unmarried daughter in her betrothal agreement (see below).]  m [as his first wife,] [GUILLAUME [II] Comte de Genève, son of GUILLAUME [I] Comte de Genève & his second wife Béatrix de Faucigny (-25 Nov 1252).] 

7.         [ELEONORE] (-after 1210).  La Mure states that "la troisième et dernière fille de Guy III Comte de Forez et de son épouse Alice de Suilly" was "Eléonor de Forez" who, in a charter "alléguée par Justel de l’an 1210", was betrothed to "Guillaume fils de Guy II Comte d’Auvergne", that the betrothal was terminated "par le changement des affaires qui survint ès Maisons d’Auvergne et de Forez", and that the same daughter later married "un grand seigneur d’Auvergne nommé Guillaume de Baffie, seigneur de Baffie et de Viveron"[195].  In this way, La Mure conflates the daughter of Comte Guy [III] by his first marriage, who married Guillaume de Baffie as demonstrated by the charter dated Mar [1241/42] quoted above, with his younger daughter who was betrothed to Guillaume d’Auvergne.  This must be incorrect in light of the source which names the older daughter, wife of Guillaume de Baffie, as "S" (see above).  In an earlier passage, La Mure describes the background to this betrothal: Philippe II King of France had dispossessed Guy [II] of his county in 1210 in reprisal for his persecution of his brother Robert Bishop of Clermont, Guy de Dampierre Seigneur de Bourbon supported the king in this move, while the county of Forez supported the comte d’Auvergne[196].  The agreement is confirmed in the undated charter which records that "Reginaldus…primæ Lugdunensis ecclesiæ minister…et pater meus comes Forensis et Guido comes Arverniæ" agreed the marriages, firstly of "G. fratris mei" and "filias G. comitis Arverniæ", and secondly of "filius…dicti comitis Arverniæ" and "filiam […reliquæ filiæ fratris mei] fratris mei G. quondam comitis Forensis"[197].  This charter makes it clear that this daughter was the last remaining (unmarried) daughter ("reliquæ filiæ") of Comte Guy [III], but the document does not name her.  La Mure gives no indication of the basis on which he names her "Eléonor", but presumably his source was Justel’s Histoire d’Auvergne (not yet consulted).  No record has been found which indicates that this betrothal was ever finalised into a marriage, although the late date of Guillaume [X]’s recorded marriage suggests that he may have been married before and remarried only after the death of his earlier wife, who would presumably have died childless.  Betrothed ([1210]) to GUILLAUME [X] Comte d'Auvergne, son of GUY [II] Comte d'Auvergne & his wife Petronille de Chambon (-1246, bur Le Bouchet). 

 

 

RENAUD de Forez, son of GUY [IV] Comte de Forez [Albon] & his first wife Philippa [Mathilde] de Dampierre (-13 Nov 1270).  The testament of "comes Nivernensis et Forensis" is dated 1239, before leaving on crusade, and names "Guigonem filium meum primogenitum…Raynaldum alium meum" (adding that he wished the latter to enter the church)[198].  "Guidonem comitem Forisiensem et Raynaudum de Forisio fratres" and "Humbertum dominum Bellijoci" agreed the dowry for the daughter of the latter "Elizabeth…relictam Simonis quondam domini de Luzi in uxorem Raynaudo supradicto" by charter dated Dec 1247[199].   Comte de Forez 1259.  "Reynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Sine Muri Briennensis ac Elisabeth eius uxor" granted privileges to Marcigny by charter dated 1261, before 25 Dec[200].  Seigneur de Beaujeu 1267.  The testament of "Raynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci" is dated Jun 1270 and names "Guiotum filium meum…Ludovico filio meo clerico" as his heir and, in substitution, "Guidonem consanguinem meum dominum de Tyerno" who should if he inherits provide for "domino Guidoni de Tyerno consanguineo meo canonicus LugdunensisHugoni de Tyerno consanguineo meo fratri eiusdem canonici Guidonis…consanguineo meo domino Ano domino d’Oliergue…Guillelmo de Rossilione consanguineo meo", and provides a bequest to "uxor nostra Ysabella comitissa Forensis et domina Bellijoci "[201]

m (Feb or Nov 1247) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Beaujeu, widow of SIMON [II] de Semur Seigneur de Luzy, daughter of HUMBERT [V] Seigneur de Beaujeu & his wife Marguerite de Bâgé Dame de Miribel (-Jan or 22 Aug 1297).  "Guidonem comitem Forisiensem et Raynaudum de Forisio fratres" and "Humbertum dominum Bellijoci" agreed the dowry for the daughter of the latter "Elizabeth …relictam Simonis quondam domini de Luzi in uxorem Raynaudo supradicto" by charter dated Dec 1247[202].   "Humbertus dominus Belli Joci" names his daughters "Ysabellis…Sybilla…filius Byatricis filie mee…Margaritam", specifying that Isabelle was "nunc uxorem Raynaldi de Foresio" and would inherit if his son Guichard died without issue, in his testament dated Jul 1248[203].  The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified.  She succeeded her brother in 1265 as Dame de Beaujeu.  A charter dated [1/28] Nov 1282 records an agreement between the monks of Cluny and "Ludovicum dominum Bellijoci", and names “dominam Ysabellam matrem suam, relictam domini Raynaudi, quondam comitis Forensis, patris sui[204].  The Anniversary Book of Notre-Dame de Beaujeu records the death "XI Kal Sep" of "domina Ysabella comitissa Forensis domina Bellijoci, soror domini Guichardi"[205]

Renaud & his wife had four children: 

1.         GUY [VI] (-19 Jan 1278, bur Montbrison).  The testament of "Raynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci" is dated Jun 1270 and names "Guiotum filium meum…Ludovico filio meo clerico…"[206]Comte de Forez

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2.         LOUIS (-23 Aug 1295).  The testament of "Raynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci" is dated Jun 1270 and names "Guiotum filium meum…Ludovico filio meo clerico…"[207].  "Ludovicus dominus Bellijoci" confirmed the rights of "villa Tysiaci" granted by "Humberti quondam domini Bellijoic, avi nostri…bonæ memoriæ nobilis viri Guichardi avunculi nostri quondam domini Bellijoci, necnon…matris nostræ Isabellæ Comitissæ Forensis, dominæ quondam Bellijoci", by charter dated Feb 1274[208]Seigneur de Beaujeu.  A charter dated [1/28] Nov 1282 records an agreement between the monks of Cluny and "Ludovicum dominum Bellijoci", and names “dominam Ysabellam matrem suam, relictam domini Raynaudi, quondam comitis Forensis, patris sui”, “dominam Johannam, relictam Guidonis, quondam fratris dicti Ludovici, et comitis Forensis”, “dominam Blanchiam, relictam domini Guichardi, quondam domini Bellijoci”, and “domina Helienor uxor domini Bellijoci predicti[209]

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3.         GUICHARD (-before Jun 1270).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.  1265.  It is assumed that he died before Jun 1270, the date of his father’s testament in which he is not named.  m (1269) ELEONORE de Savoie, daughter of AMEDEE IV Comte de Savoie & his second wife Cécile [Passerose] de Baux.  She is not mentioned in either the 19 Sep 1252 or 24 May 1253 wills of her father[210], which suggests that she may have born posthumously, in which case she must have been the twin of her sister Constance.  The testament of "Beatrice Vedova del Re Berengario Conte di Provenza" dated 14 Jan 1264 makes bequests "…a Contesson…più ad Eleonora altra sua figlia…"[211]The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. 

4.         ETIENNETTE (-24 Apr ----).  The necrology of Sainte-Croix de Lyon records the death "XXIV Kal Mai" of "dom Stephane filie dom Renaudi de Forio uxoris dom Jo. lo Vito quondam"[212].  It is assumed that she died before Jun 1270, the date of her father’s testament in which she is not named.  m as his [second] wife, JEAN [le Viteaux], son of ---.  This was not Jean's only marriage, as shown by the necrology of Sainte-Croix de Lyon which records the death "XV Kal Oct" of "Katerine uxoris Jo lo Vito"[213].  This entry, read together with the entry commemorating Jean’s wife Etiennette (see above), suggests that Catherine was his first wife and Etiennette his second. 

 

 

GUY [VI] de Forez, son of RENAUD Comte de Forez [Albon] & his wife Isabelle de Beaujeu (-19 Jan 1278, bur Montbrison).  The testament of "Raynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci" is dated Jun 1270 and names "Guiotum filium meum…Ludovico filio meo clerico…"[214]Comte de Forez.  A charter dated [1/28] Nov 1282 records an agreement between the monks of Cluny and "Ludovicum dominum Bellijoci", and names “dominam Ysabellam matrem suam, relictam domini Raynaudi, quondam comitis Forensis, patris sui” and “dominam Johannam, relictam Guidonis, quondam fratris dicti Ludovici, et comitis Forensis[215].  The first testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated 29 May 1275, chooses his burial "in ecclesia beatæ Mariæ Montisbrisonis", names "Isabellam filiam meam" as his heir, and names "consanguinei domini Humberti de Bellojoco, militis, domini Montis Penserii et conestabuli Franciæ…Joannæ…uxoris meæ…Ludovicum fratrem meum"[216].  The second testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated Nov 1277, names "Johannem filium meum" as his heir, and names "Ysabellam filiam meam…Loram filiam meam…Johannæ uxoris meæ et tutorum liberorum meorum"[217].  The third testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated 27 Dec 1277, names "Johannem filium meum" as his heir, and names "Isabellam filiam meam…Loram filiam meam" (adding that he wished the latter to enter the church) "Johannæ uxori meæ"[218].  His place of burial is confirmed by the testament of his son "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 16 Aug 1334, which chooses his burial "in ecclesia beate Marie Montisbrisonis in tumulo parentum meorum"[219]

m (1268) as her first husband, JEANNE de Montfort, daughter of PHILIPPE de Montfort Seigneur de Castres et de la Ferté-Alais & his wife Jeanne de Levis ([1255/60][220]-1300, bur Montbrison).  A charter dated [1/28] Nov 1282 records an agreement between the monks of Cluny and "Ludovicum dominum Bellijoci", and names “dominam Ysabellam matrem suam, relictam domini Raynaudi, quondam comitis Forensis, patris sui” and “dominam Johannam, relictam Guidonis, quondam fratris dicti Ludovici, et comitis Forensis[221].  She married secondly (1278) Louis de Savoie Baron de Vaud.  The testament of "dominæ Joannæ de Monteforti quondam comitissæ Forensis, uxorisque quondam…domini Ludovici de Sabaudia domini Vaudi" dated Nov 1293 chooses her burial "in cimiterio Fratrum Minorum Montisbrisonis" and makes bequests to "a Gioanni di lei figlio Conte di Forest…ad Isabella di Lei figlia moglie di Berardo di Merevel…a Lora, Margarita, Gioannetta, Beatrice, Eleonora, Cattarina e Bianca pur sue figlie…a Pietro di Lei figlio…altri suoi Benidto Lodovico suo figlio"[222].  Her place of burial is confirmed by the testament of her daughter "dominæ Isabellæ de Foresio domine de Mercorio" dated 7 Mar 1331 which chooses her burial "in domo Fratrum Minorem Montisbrisonis, in tumulo…matris meæ"[223]

Guy [VI] & his wife had three children: 

1.         ISABELLE ([1273/May 1275]-after 29 Jan 1337, bur Montbrison).  The first testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated 29 May 1275, chooses his burial "in ecclesia beatæ Mariæ Montisbrisonis", names "Isabellam filiam meam" as his heir, and names "consanguinei domini Humberti de Bellojoco, militis, domini Montis Penserii et conestabuli Franciæ…Joannæ…uxoris meæ…Ludovicum fratrem meum"[224].  The second testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated Nov 1277, names "Johannem filium meum" as his heir, and names "Ysabellam filiam meam…Loram filiam meam…Johannæ uxoris meæ et tutorum liberorum meorum"[225].  "Johannes comes Forensis adultus" agreed with "Beraldo de Mercorio nepoti…domini Beraldi domini Mercorii filioque quondam domino Beraldi de Mercorio, filii quondam ipsius domini Mercorio" the dowry of "Yzabelle sponsa sua sororeque ipsius comitis et filia quondam…Guidonis quondam comitis Forensis" by charter dated Jun 1290[226].  The testament of "Gioanna di Monfort Contessa di Forest Moglie di Ludovico de Savoia Signore di Vaud" dated Nov 1293 makes bequests to "a Gioanni di lei figlio Conte di Forest…ad Isabella di Lei figlia moglie di Berardo di Merevel…a Lora…"[227].  The testament of "dominæ Isabellæ de Foresio domine de Mercorio" is dated 7 Mar 1331, chooses her burial "in domo Fratrum Minorem Montisbrisonis, in tumulo…matris meæ", and appoints "nepotem meum dominum Guiotum de Foresio primogenitum…fratris mei comitis Forensis" as her heir[228]m (1 Jun 1290) BERAUD [VIII] Seigneur de Mercœur, son of BERAUD [VII] Seigneur de Mercœur & his wife Blanche de Salins (-5 Apr 1321). 

2.         LAURE ([1275/76]-[1319/20 Jun 1320]).  The second testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated Nov 1277, names "Johannem filium meum" as his heir, and names "Ysabellam filiam meam…Loram filiam meam…Johannæ uxoris meæ et tutorum liberorum meorum"[229].  It is likely that Laure was her father’s second child.  Both she and her brother Jean are named in their father’s Nov 1277 testament.  This second testament was written to substitute Jean as his father’s heir in place of the older daughter Isabelle.  If Laure had been born after Jean, it is unlikely that she would have been named in the document, which was presumably written soon after Jean’s birth.  The third testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated 27 Dec 1277, names "Johannem filium meum" as his heir, and names "Isabellam filiam meam…Loram filiam meam" (adding that he wished the latter to enter the church) "Johannæ uxori meæ"[230].  The testament of "Gioanna di Monfort Contessa di Forest Moglie di Ludovico de Savoia Signore di Vaud" dated Nov 1293 makes bequests to "a Gioanni di lei figlio Conte di Forest…ad Isabella di Lei figlia moglie di Berardo di Merevel…a Lora…"[231].  Nun at Bonlieu.  "Joannes comes Forensis" constituted the dowry for "domicella Lora…soror sua" when entering religion at Bonlieu monastery by charter dated Jul 1295[232].  "Joannes comes Forensis" founded an anniversary for "Loræ sorori nostræ, moniali quondam monasterii Boni Boci" at Bonlieu monastery by charter dated Nov 1330[233]

3.         JEAN [I] ([1276/Nov 1277]-3 Jul 1334, bur Montbrison).  The second testament of "G. comes Forensis" is dated Nov 1277, names "Johannem filium meum" as his heir, and names "Ysabellam filiam meam…Loram filiam meam…Johannæ uxoris meæ et tutorum liberorum meorum"[234].  The court of Lyon confirmed the guardianship of "Gioanni figlio pupillo di Guidone Conte di Forest" naming "Gioanna di Monfort Contessa di Forest Madre del detto Gioanni" and her second marriage with "Lodovico di Savoia Signore di Vaud fratello del Conte Amedeo" by charter dated 23 Jun 1283[235]The testament of "Gioanna di Monfort Contessa di Forest Moglie di Ludovico de Savoia Signore di Vaud" dated Nov 1293 makes bequests to "a Gioanni di lei figlio Conte di Forest…ad Isabella di Lei figlia moglie di Berardo di Merevel…a Lora…"[236]Comte de Forez.  Seigneur de Saint-Bonnet 1291.  The testament of "Joannes comes Forensis" is dated 16 Aug 1324, chooses his burial "in ecclesia beate Marie Montisbrisonis in tumulo parentum meorum", appoints "filium meum Raynaudum" as his heir in seven castles in anticipation of his marriage contracted with "Margaritam filiam domini Philipi de Sabaudia principis Achaye" and in the inheritance of "quondam Alisie de Viannesio matris sue", bequeathes property to "Johanni filio meo", appoints "Guiotum filium meum" as his heir and refers to the marriage contracted between him and "dominum Ludovicum de Claromonte…Johannam filiam"[237].  "Joannes comes Forensis" founded an anniversary for "Loræ sorori nostræ, moniali quondam monasterii Boni Boci" at Bonlieu monastery by charter dated Nov 1330[238].  The codicil of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 2 Jul 1333, adjusts his bequests to his three [legitimate] sons and provides for "Johannem et Raynaudum filios meos naturales…Johannetam filiam meam naturalem"[239].  The necrology of Notre Dame de Montbrison records the death 3 Jul 1334 of "Joannes comes Forensis"[240]m firstly (contract Vienne 28 Mar 1296) ALIX de Viennois, daughter of HUMBERT de la Tour du Pin Dauphin de Viennois & his wife Anne Dauphine de Viennois (-Saint-Saturnin-du-Port 14 Nov 1309, bur Saint-Saturnin-du-Port, transferred 1311 after 7 Mar to Montbrison Notre-Dame).  The Aymari Rivalli De Allobrogibus records the marriage of "Delphini filia…Alysiam" and "Joannes comes Foresius"[241].  The contract of marriage between "dominum Humbertum, delphinium, comitem Viennensem et Albonensem dominumque de Turre et dominam Annam eius uxorem…Alasiam…filiam" and "Johannem comitem Forensem" is dated 28 Mar 1296 at Vienne[242].  A charter dated "die dominica post brandones" in 1311 provides for the transfer of the remains of "dominæ Alasiæ de Viennensio quondam comitissæ Forensis", buried "in ecclesia Sancti Saturnini de Portu" where she had died, to "ecclesiam nostram beatæ Mariæ Montisbrisonis" where she had chosen her burial[243]m secondly (after [1317]) as her third husband, ELEONORE de Savoie, widow firstly of GUILLAUME Comte d'Auxerre and secondly of DREUX [IV] de Mello Seigneur de Sainte-Hermine, daughter of AMEDEE V Comte de Savoie & his first wife Sibylle [Simone] de Bâgé Dame de Bâgé ([1279]-1324).  The "Act of emancipation" of "Eleonora di Savoia" aged 12 by "Conte Amedeo di Savoia suo Padre" is dated 25 Jan 1292[244].  If this is correct, it is unlikely that her first child was born in 1292, as shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[245]"Eleonora figlia del Conte Amedeo di Savoia e della Contessa Sibilla Moglie di Guglielmo di Chalon Conte d'Auxerre" renounced her rights of inheritance from her parents in favour of "suoi Padre e Madre, e di Oddoardo ed Aymone suoi fratelli" as part of the arrangements concerning her dowry, by charter dated "la festa di S. Vincenzo 1292"[246].  "Guglielmo di Chalon Conte d'Auxerres" donated property to "Eleonora figlia del Conte Amedeo di Savoia sua Moglie" in contemplation of marriage by charter dated 7 Jan 1292[247].  The Papal dispensation for the marriage of "il Conte Giov di ---e" and "la principessa Eleonora figlia del Conte Amedeo V di Savoia" notwithstanding 4o consanguinity is dated 7 Jan 1291[248]The testament of "Sibilla Contessa di Savoia Dama di Bauge Moglie del Conte Amedeo di Savoia" dated 1294 grants bequests "ad Eleonora Moglie del Conte Guglielmo d'Auxerre sua figlia…"[249].  The testament of "Conte Amedeo di Savoia" dated 27 Sep 1307 names "…Eleonora, Margarita, ed Agnes sue figlie"[250]Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 27 Jun 1308 under which Philippe IV King of France requesting “Jean de Chalon-Auxerre”, guardian of “les enfants de feu Guillaume comte d’Auxerre”, to pay sums due “à la veuve de ce dernier, remariée à Dreux de Mello seigneur de Sainte-Hermine[251].  The primary source which confirms her third marriage has not been identified.  m thirdly (after 1324) LAURE de Savoie, daughter of LOUIS [I] de Savoie Baron de Vaud & his first wife Adeline de Lorraine (before 1278-1334).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.  Jean [I] & his first wife had four children: 

a)         JEANNE .  The marriage contract between "Johannæ filiæ domini Joannis comitis Forensis" and "domino Aymaro domino de Rossillone" is dated 8 May 1318[252].  The Papal dispensation for the marriage between "Aymaro domino Rossilionis" and "Johanne nata…Johannis comitis Forensis" is dated 20 Mar 1318, and refers to their relationship "ex uno latere tertio, ex altero quarto gradibus…consanguinitatis" (without giving details of the descents)[253]m (Papal dispensation 3o and 4o 20 Mar 1318, contract 8 May 1318) AYMAR Seigneur de Roussillon, son of ARTAUD [V] Seigneur de Roussillon & his wife Alix de Poitiers/Valentinois (-after 1355). 

b)         GUY [VII] (19 Apr 1299-Sainte-Colombe, couvent des Cordeliers, near Vienne 23 Jun 1358, bur Montbrison, église de Notre-Dame)An ancient missel records the birth "1299 XIII Kal Mai" of "Guido primogenitus domini Johannis comitis Forensis et dominæ Aliziæ de Vienne" and his subsequent baptism[254]Comte de Forez

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c)         RENAUD (-[1369/70]).  Canon at Lyon, Vienne and Valence cathedrals before 1317.  Deacon at Chalon-sur-Marne cathedral 1317.  Canon at Bayeux 1323.  Seigneur de Malleval, de Rocherlaine et de Saint-Germain Laval.  The testament of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 16 Aug 1324, appoints "filium meum Raynaudum" as his heir in seven castles in anticipation of his marriage contracted with "Margaritam filiam domini Philipi de Sabaudia principis Achaye" and in the inheritance of "quondam Alisie de Viannesio matris sue"[255]The 29 Mar 1340 testament of Louis [II] de Savoie Baron de Vaud names his nephews Guy and Raimond de Forez[256]"Domini Reynaudus et Johannes filii…domini Johannis comitis Forensis" agreed to respect the provisions of their father’s testament by charter dated 15 Feb 1333 (O.S.), which names "bone memorie domine Alaysie de Vienesio comitisse Forensis matris quondam antedictorum Reynaudi et Johannis"[257]m (contract 3 May 1324, 10 Jun 1324) MARGUERITE de Savoie, daughter of PHILIPPE de Savoie Prince of Achaia & his first wife Isabelle de Villehardouin Pss of Achaia (Feb 1303-after 8 Dec 1371).  The contract of marriage between "nobilem Raynaudum de Forisio, natum…domini Johannis comitis Forensis" and "nobilem Margaritam filiam…domini Philippi de Sabaudia principis Achaye" is dated 3 May 1324[258].  The testament of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 16 Aug 1324, appoints "filium meum Raynaudum" as his heir in seven castles in anticipation of his marriage contracted with "Margaritam filiam domini Philipi de Sabaudia principis Achaye" and in the inheritance of "quondam Alisie de Viannesio matris sue"[259]

d)         JEAN (-after 8 Aug 1334).  The testament of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 16 Aug 1324, bequeathes property to "Johanni filio meo"[260].  Canon at Paris 1323.  "Domini Reynaudus et Johannes filii…domini Johannis comitis Forensis" agreed to respect the provisions of their father’s testament by charter dated 15 Feb 1333 (O.S.), which names "bone memorie domine Alaysie de Vienesio comitisse Forensis matris quondam antedictorum Reynaudi et Johannis"[261].  The testament of "dominus Johannes de Foresio, canonicus ecclesie Parisiensis", dated 8 Aug 1334, bequeathes property to "Johannino et Raymundino fratribus suis naturalibus…dominorum Guidonis comitis Forensis et Reginaldi fratrum suorum"[262].  The necrology of the Eglise Cathédrale de Paris records the death "4 Aug" of "Johannis filii comitis de Foresiis"[263]

Jean [I] had three illegitimate children by an unknown mistress or mistresses: 

e)         JEAN (-after 8 Aug 1334).  The codicil of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 2 Jul 1333, adjusts his bequests to his three [legitimate] sons and provides for "Johannem et Raynaudum filios meos naturales…Johannetam filiam meam naturalem"[264].  The testament of "dominus Johannes de Foresio, canonicus ecclesie Parisiensis", dated 8 Aug 1334, bequeathes property to "Johannino et Raymundino fratribus suis naturalibus…"[265]

f)          RENAUD [Raymond] (-after 8 Aug 1334).  The codicil of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 2 Jul 1333, adjusts his bequests to his three [legitimate] sons and provides for "Johannem et Raynaudum filios meos naturales…Johannetam filiam meam naturalem"[266].  The testament of "dominus Johannes de Foresio, canonicus ecclesie Parisiensis", dated 8 Aug 1334, bequeathes property to "Johannino et Raymundino fratribus suis naturalibus…"[267]

g)         JEANNETTE (-after 2 Jul 1333).  The codicil of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 2 Jul 1333, adjusts his bequests to his three [legitimate] sons and provides for "Johannem et Raynaudum filios meos naturales…Johannetam filiam meam naturalem"[268]

 

 

GUY [VII] de Forez, son of JEAN [I] Comte de Forez & his first wife Alix de Viennois (19 Apr 1299-Sainte-Colombe, couvent des Cordeliers, near Vienne 23 Jun 1358, bur Montbrison, église de Notre-Dame).  An ancient missel records the birth "1299 XIII Kal Mai" of "Guido primogenitus domini Johannis comitis Forensis et dominæ Aliziæ de Vienne" and his subsequent baptism[269].  The first testament of "dominæ Isabellæ de Foresio domine de Mercorio" is dated 7 Mar 1331, chooses her burial "in domo Fratrum Minorem Montisbrisonis, in tumulo…matris meæ", and appoints "nepotem meum dominum Guiotum de Foresio primogenitum…fratris mei comitis Forensis" as her heir[270].  "Johannus Dalphinus Viennensis et Albonis comes dominusque de Turre" granted all his rights over Le Puy to "nepoti nostro Guioto de Foresio…comitem Forensis [Johannem] filio ac sororis nostre domine Alasie comitisse Forensis" by charter dated 9 Dec 1339[271]The 29 Mar 1340 testament of Louis [II] de Savoie Baron de Vaud names his nephews Guy and Raimond de Forez[272]Comte de Forez.  The testament of "Guido comes Forensis", dated 16 Dec 1357, chooses burial "in ecclesia mea beate Marie Montisbrisonis in tumulo parentum meorum", bequeathes property to "Johannam…filiam meam" in connection with her marriage to "comitem dalphinum Alvernie", to "Johannis filio meo…filium meum Ludovicum", and appoints "fratrum meum dominum Raynaudum de Forisio…" as guardians of "liberis meis impuberibus"[273]

m (3 Aug 1324) JEANNE de Clermont, daughter of LOUIS [I] de Clermont "le Boiteux" Comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis Seigneur de Bourbon [later Duc de Bourbon] [Capet] & his wife Marie de Hainaut ([1311/12]-30 Dec 1402, bur Montbrison, église des Cordeliers).  The testament of "Joannes comes Forensis", dated 16 Aug 1324, appoints "Guiotum filium meum" as his heir and refers to the marriage contracted between him and "dominum Ludovicum de Claromonte…Johannam filiam"[274].  "Jehane de Bourbon comtesse de Foureis, fille ainsnée de messire Loys duc de Bourbon, fils ainé du fils monseigneur Sainct Loys roi de France, et femme de messire Guis conte de Fourais" donated property to the church of Notre-Dame de Montbrison by charter dated 11 Sep 1372[275].  "Domina Johanna de Borbonio, relicta…Guidonis comitis Forensis, comitissa Forensis" donated her rights in the county of Forez to "dominam Annam Dalphine duchissam Borbonii, filiam suam et…dominum Ludovicem ducem Borbonii eius nepotem, conjuges" by charter dated 5 Jul 1382[276]The testament of "Johanna de Bourbonio comitissa Forensis, filiaque…domini Ludovici ducis Borbonii, comitis Claromontis et Marchie, et domine Marie Heynaut, coniugem, relicta…domini Guidonis comitis Forensis quondam", dated 13 Jun 1400, bequeathed property to "dominum ducem Bourboni, comitem Claromontensem et Forensem, et Annam Dalphinam, duchissam Bourbonii, nepotem et filiam meos", and founded an anniversary for "domine Margarite de Sabbadia…sororgie mee, quondam consortis…fratris mei domini Reynaudi de Foresio"[277]

Guy [VII] & his wife had [five] children: 

1.         JEANNE (10 May 1337-17 Feb 1369).  An ancient missel records the birth 10 May 1337 "Jehane fille du comte Guy de Forez & de Jehane de Bourbon"[278].  The testament of "Guido comes Forensis", dated 16 Dec 1357, bequeathed property to "Johannam…filiam meam" in connection with her marriage to "comitem dalphinum Alvernie"[279].  The necrology of Clermont Saint-André records the death 17 Feb 1369 of "Johanna de Forests comitissa Claromontis dominaque terræ de Mercorio"[280]m (contract 22 Jun 1357) as his first wife, BERAUD [II] "le Grand Dauphin" Comte de Clermont, son of BERAUD [I] Dauphin Comte de Clermont & his first wife Marie de Villemur (-17 Jan 1400). 

2.         [child ([Mar/May] 1338-).  No record has been found of this child except that the ancient missel which records the births of the other children of Comte Guy [VII] and his wife specify that Louis and his brother and sister were third, fourth and fifth children of their parents[281].  According to La Mure, this child was "Jacerand de Forez…abbé de Saint-Pierre de Vienne" who, he assumes, was the oldest child[282].] 

3.         LOUIS (Saint-Galmier 16 Mar 1339-killed in battle Brignais 6 Apr 1362).  An ancient missel records the birth 16 Mar 1338 (presumably O.S.) "à Saint Galmyer Loys tiers enfant desdits Guy & Jehane"[283].  The testament of "Guido comes Forensis", dated 16 Dec 1357, bequeathes property to "Johannis filio meo…filium meum Ludovicum", and appoints "fratrum meum dominum Raynaudum de Forisio…" as guardians of "liberis meis impuberibus"[284]Comte de Forezm (1361) as her first husband, JEANNE Rogier, daughter of GUILLAUME [III] Rogier Vicomte de Turenne, Comte de Beaufort & his wife Eléonore de Comminges ([1351]-1404).  The index of archives at Forez refers to a document relating to the dowry of "filiæ domini vicecomitis Turionensis" on her marriage to "Ludovicum comitem Forensem"[285].  She married secondly (after Apr 1362) Raymond Seigneur de Baux Conte di Avellino.  She married thirdly (contract 30 Jan 1374) as his first wife, GUY [II] de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux, Vicomte de Brosse

4.         JEAN [II] (1343-15 May 1372).  An ancient missel records the birth in 1343 "à Saint Galmyer Jehan quatrième enfant desdits Guy & Jehane"[286].  The testament of "Guido comes Forensis", dated 16 Dec 1357, bequeathes property to "Johannis filio meo…filium meum Ludovicum", and appoints "fratrum meum dominum Raynaudum de Forisio…" as guardians of "liberis meis impuberibus"[287]Comte de Forez.  A charter dated 18 May 1370 refers to Louis Duc d’Anjou as "curateur de Mgr Jean de Forez", and records the authorisation by Charles V King of France of the transfer of the former’s rights in the county of Forez to Louis II Duc de Bourbon, who was the husband of Comte Jean’s niece Anne de Clermont[288].  This suggests that Comte Jean suffered some incapacity and was incapable of ruling the county himself.  The necrology of Notre-Dame de Montbrison records the death 15 May 1372 of "princeps Joannes comes Forensis", adding that "Joanna de Borbonio comitissa eius mater" founded an anniversary for him[289]

5.         ODILE (Verdier 5 Oct 1345-[young]).  An ancient missel records the birth 5 Oct 1345 "au Verdyer, Odile cinquième enfant desdits Guy & Jehane de Bourbon"[290]

 

 

 

C.      VICOMTES de LYON

 

 

1.         ADEMAR (-after 28 Mar 944).  Vicomte de LyonA charter dated 28 Mar 944 noted the obligations to Cluny of “Ademaro Lugdunensi vicecomite” relating to “Tosciaco”, in the presence of “domni Hugonis…marchionis” and subscribed by “…Leotaldi comitis, Caroli comitis, Vuilelmi comitis…”[291]

 

 

1.         BERARD (-before 1030).  m BLISMODIS, daughter of ---.  "Wigo [et]…Eufemia uxor mea" made a donation to Cluny dated 1030 for the souls of "Berardi patris mei [et]…Blismodis matris mee"[292].  Bérard & his wife had two children: 

a)         GUIGUES [I] (-[22 Jan] after 1030).  "Wigo [et]…Eufemia uxor mea" made a donation to Cluny dated 1030 for the souls of "Berardi patris mei [et]…Blismodis matris mee ac fratris mei Wichard seu infantibus meis"[293]Vicomte de Lyon.  "Wigonis vicecomitis et uxore sua Eufemia" subscribed the charter dated 16 Oct 982 under which "Narduinus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire[294]"Wigo vicecomes et uxor mea Eufemia" donated property to Saint-Vincent de Mâcon by charter dated to [1018/30] subscribed by "Elisabeth comitissa"[295].  “Geraldi…comitis…Vuigonis senioris” consented to the donation by “Adzelena abbatissa” to Savigny by charter dated to [1030][296].  Another charter dated to [1033] refers to the same donation and names “Vuigonis vicecomitis[297].  The necrology of the priory of Ambierle en Roannois records the death "XI Kal Feb" of "Vuigo vicecomes"[298]m (before 16 Oct 982) EUPHEMIA, daughter of NARDUIN Vicomte de Mâcon & his wife [Aya ---] (-after 1030).  "Wigonis vicecomitis et uxore sua Eufemia" subscribed the charter dated 16 Oct 982 under which "Narduinus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire[299]"Wigo [et]…Eufemia uxor mea" made a joint donation to Cluny dated 1030 for the souls of his parents and brother, which also names “Narduino vicecomiti et filie eius Eufemie[300].  "Wigo vicecomes et uxor mea Eufemia" donated property to Saint-Vincent de Mâcon by charter dated to [1018/30] subscribed by "Elisabeth comitissa"[301].  Guigues [I] & his wife had --- children: 

i)          children .  "Wigo [et]…Eufemia uxor mea" made a donation to Cluny dated 1030 for the souls of "…infantibus meis"[302]

b)         GUICHARD (-[before 1030]).  "Wigo [et]…Eufemia uxor mea" made a donation to Cluny dated 1030 for the soul of "Wichardi fratris mei" and their parents[303]

 

 

It is probable that Guigues [II] was one of the children of Guigues [I] but the primary source which confirms that this is correct has not yet been identified. 

1.         GUIGUES [II] (-after 1039).  Vicomte de Lyon.  “Guigo vicecomes” donated property “in pago Lugdunensi…castrum Mons Meruli [Montmerle]” to Cluny by charter dated to [Jan/Nov] 1039, subscribed by “Hugonis comitis, Tietbaldi comitis, Ermessendis vicecomitisse…[304].  A charter dated 10 Feb 1093 defines property referring to "terram…que fuit olim coqui vicecomitis Wigonis"[305], although it is not certain that this refers to one of the vicomtes de Lyon names Guigues.  m ERMESENDE, daughter of ---.  “Guigo vicecomes” donated property “in pago Lugdunensi…castrum Mons Meruli [Montmerle]” to Cluny by charter dated to [Jan/Nov] 1039, subscribed by “…Ermessendis vicecomitisse…[306]

 

 

1.         [GUIGUES [III] [de Lavieu] .  La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez names "Rotulpha ou Rotulphe de Forez" as "la seconde des fille de [Comte Géraud]", adding that she married "Guy I Seigneur de Lavieu…vicomte"[307].  He cites "Antoine de Laval" as his source, the preceding page clarifying that this refers to "les mémoires manuscrits du docte Forésien Antoine de Laval", presumably a contemporary of La Mure’s although this is not stated[308].  Auguste Bernard also refers to her and her marriage, citing La Mure but no other source[309].  In the absence of any primary source, there must be some doubt her existence and marriage, based on the following reasoning.  "Geraldi…comitis…Vuigonis senioris" subscribed the undated charter, "regnante Rodulfo rege" so dated to [993/1032], under which "filii Fredelanni, Hugo et Bernardus" founded the priory of Arnas in Beaujolais[310].  La Mure identifies the subscribers as Géraud Comte de Forez and Guigues [Vicomte] de Lavieu[311].  If this identification is correct, the dating of the charter quoted above suggests that Rotulphe (if she existed) was probably too young to have been the wife of Vicomte Guigues.  In addition, other sources (see above) name Guigues [I] Vicomte [de Lyon] in 982 and [1030], and name his wife Euphemia.  It is therefore likely that "Guigues de Lavieu Vicomte" was the same person as Guigues [I] Vicomte de Lyon.  m ROTULPHE de Forez, daughter of GERAUD Comte de Forez & his wife Adelaide --- ([1015/25]-).] 

 

 

1.         GAUCERAN de Lavieu (-after [1107]).  “Gauzerannus de Laviaco” consented to the donation by “Vuillelmus” to Savigny by charter dated to [1090][312].  Gauceran vicomte de Lavieu murdered Guillaume [II] Comte de Forez, who he accused of having raped his wife, after which the vicomté was confiscated[313]m ---.  The name of Gauceran’s wife is not known. 

 

 

It is assumed that the following family group was closely related to the family of the vicomtes de Lyon, considering that the castle of Montmerle was the subject of a donation to Cluny by a charter dated to [Jan/Nov] 1039 by “Guigo vicecomes” (see above).  It is assumed that Guichard de Montmerle was too young to have been the same person as Guichard, brother of Vicomte Guigues [I].  Assuming that the birth date of Achard de Montmerle is correctly estimated as shown below, it would be chronologically consistent for Guichard de Montmerle to have been the son of Guigues [III] [de Lavieu]. 

1.         GUICHARD de Montmerle (-after 19 Apr 1066).  Guichard de Montmerle donated property “l’église de Saint-Didier de Vendonissa” to the abbaye de Romans by charter dated 19 Apr 1066[314]m ---.  The name of Guichard’s wife is not known.  Guichard & his wife had two children: 

a)         ACHARD de Montmerle ([1065/80]-after 1097).  “Acardus miles de castro…Montem Merulum, filius…Wicardi…de Monte Merulo” mortgaged property to Cluny before leaving for Jerusalem by charter dated 12 Apr 1096, which names “Bernardus miles de Chaycheo et uxor eius Girberga qui erat soror Acardi” and is subscribed by the latter couple[315].  It is assumed that Achard was a young adult at the time as the charter makes provision for his dying without legitimate heirs, and names no existing children.  

b)         GERBERGE (-after 12 Apr 1096).  “Acardus miles de castro…Montem Merulum, filius…Wicardi…de Monte Merulo” mortgaged property to Cluny before leaving for Jerusalem by charter dated 12 Apr 1096, which names “Bernardus miles de Chaycheo et uxor eius Girberga qui erat soror Acardi” and is subscribed by the latter couple[316]m BERNARD de Chachez, son of --- (-after 1106). 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 2.    NOBILITY in FOREZ and LYON

 

 

A.      SEIGNEURS de MIRIBEL-en-FOREZ

 

 

Miribel-en-Forez was located in the commune of Périgneux, in the present-day French département of Loire[317]

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         ROBERT de Saint-BonnetEdouard Perroy confirms that Dauphine (see below) was the daughter of "Jocerand et nièce héritière de Robert de Saint-Bonnet"[318]

2.         JOSSERAND de Saint-Bonnet .  Edouard Perroy confirms that Dauphine (see below) was the daughter of "Jocerand et nièce héritière de Robert de Saint-Bonnet"[319].  Seigneur de Saint-Bonnet-le-Château.  m PEYTAVINE, daughter of ---.  Josserand & his wife had one child: 

a)         DAUPHINE de Saint-Bonnet (-1287, bur Mâcon Frères Mineurs).  Dame de Saint-Bonnet-le-Château, Dame de Miribel-en-Forez.  Guichenon, in his Histoire de Savoie, names "Dauphine de Lavieu Dame de Saint-Bonnet-le-Château et de Miribel-en-Forêts…fille unique et héritière de René de Lavieu, chevalier, seigneur de Saint-Bonnet et de Miribel et de Jordaine --- sa femme" as the wife of Guy [II] Seigneur de Bâgé[320].  Edouard Perroy comments that "La Mure, Guichenon, Le Laboureur et le Père Anselme" incorrectly stated that the Saint-Bonnet family was an older branch of the Lavieu family, based on the imaginary "baronnie de Lavieu" which was invented in the 16th century by "le juriste Papon", and in turn invented "René de Lavieu seigneur de Saint-Bonnet, père de Dauphine" and other persons to fit into the scheme[321].  He confirms that Dauphine was the daughter of "Jocerand et nièce héritière de Robert de Saint-Bonnet".  "Dauphine dame de Saint-Bonnet", on the marriage of "sa fille Sibille avec Amédée de Savoie seigneur de Bâgé", granted "le château de Miribel en Forez" to her daughter by charter dated May 1275[322].  "Dauphine dame de Saint-Bonnet le Château, femme de Pierre de la Roue chevalier" confirmed her donation of "le château de Miribel en Forez" to her daughter "Sibille femme d’Amédée de Savoie seigneur de Bâgé" by charter dated Mar 1276[323]m firstly GUY de Damas Seigneur de Couzan, Vicomte de Chalon, son of ---.  m secondly GUY [II] Seigneur de Bâgé et de Bresse, son of RENAUD [IV] Seigneur de Bâgé et de Bresse & his wife Sybille de Beaujeu (-[5 Apr/20 Oct] 1255, bur Saint-André hors de Bâgé).  m thirdly (before 1259) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Châtillon-en-Bezois et de La Roche-Milay, son of ---.  m fourthly ([1271/72]) PIERRE Seigneur de la Roue , son of ---. 

 

 

 



[1] MGH, Die Urkunden der Burgundischen Rudolfinger (1977), 27, p. 133. 

[2] MGH, Die Urkunden der Burgundischen Rudolfinger (1977), 60, p. 203. 

[3] Bernard ‘Histoire territoriale du Lyonnais’ (1875), p. 260. 

[4] Bernard (1875), p. 259, citing Gallia Christiana t. IV, col. 215 and pr. col. 5. 

[5] Savigny, 130, p. 93. 

[6] Cluny, Tome I, 625, p. 582. 

[7] Bernard (1875), pp. 278-9. 

[8] Bernard (1875), p. 283. 

[9] La Mure (1675/1860), 3 Tomes. 

[10] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 106 bis, p. 132. 

[11] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 111 bis, p. 137. 

[12] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 106 bis, p. 134. 

[13] Bernard (1835) Vol. 1, p. 101. 

[14] Paradin (1573), p. 111, which does not cite the reference for the original source.  

[15] Bernard (1875), p. 268. 

[16] Paradin (1573), p. 111, which does not cite the reference for the original source.  

[17] Savigny, 7, p. 11. 

[18] Cluny, Tome I, 270 and 275, pp. 264 and 270. 

[19] Cluny, Tome I, 656, p. 610. 

[20] Bernard (1875), pp. 269-70, citing De la Mûre Histoire du diocese de Lyon, without the page number or a precise reference to the original source. 

[21] Bernard (1835) Vol. 1, p. 101. 

[22] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 162. 

[23] Bernard (1835) Vol. 1, p. 103. 

[24] Bernard (1835) Vol. 1, p. 102. 

[25] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 162. 

[26] Bernard (1835) Vol. 1, p. 106. 

[27] Savigny 437, p. 237. 

[28] Savigny 437, p. 237. 

[29] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, pp. 159-60, citing, among others, Paradin (1573). 

[30] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 162. 

[31] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 161, footnote 1. 

[32] Paradin (1573), p. 112, which does not cite the reference for the original source.  

[33] Bernard (1875), p. 272. 

[34] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 6 bis, p. 7. 

[35] Bernard (1835) Vol. 1, p. 105. 

[36] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 6 bis, p. 7. 

[37] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 6 bis, p. 7. 

[38] Savigny 437, p. 237. 

[39] Cluny, Tome III, 2292, p. 419.   

[40] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, pp. 159-60, citing, among others, Paradin, G. Histoire de Lyon

[41] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 160. 

[42] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 161, footnote 1. 

[43] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874), I, Livre III, p. 162. 

[44] Paradin (1573), p. 112.  

[45] Bernard (1875), p. 281. 

[46] Savigny 437, p. 237. 

[47] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 6 bis, p. 7. 

[48] Settipani (2004), p. 313. 

[49] Brioude Saint-Julien, 331, p. 335. 

[50] Cluny, Tome III, 2673, p. 703.   

[51] Cluny, Tome III, p. 703 footnote 2. 

[52] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise primatiale de Lyon.     

[53] Ainay, 147, p. 663. 

[54] Savigny 602, p. 296. 

[55] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise primatiale de Lyon.     

[56] Obituaires de Lyon I, Abbaye de Savigny, p. 355.       

[57] Savigny 602, p. 296. 

[58] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 20, p. 16. 

[59] Ex Rodulfi Glabri Historiarum V, 4, MGH SS IV, p. 70. 

[60] Savigny 730, p. 376. 

[61] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise primatiale de Lyon, although footnote 2 associates the entry with Gérard Comte de Vienne who died in 847 whose wife Berta is associated with another entry in the same necrology.

[62] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 90. 

[63] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 20, p. 16. 

[64] Bernard (1875), p. 288. 

[65] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 86. 

[66] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 20, p. 16. 

[67] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 20, p. 16. 

[68] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 87. 

[69] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 86. 

[70] Bernard (1875), p. 288.   

[71] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 8, p. 9. 

[72] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 90. 

[73] Ex Rodulfi Glabri Historiarum V, 4, MGH SS IV, p. 70. 

[74] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, pp. 94-5. 

[75] Ainay 147, p. 663. 

[76] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 20, p. 16. 

[77] Bernard (1875), p. 291, which does not provide the source reference for the original.    

[78] Bernard (1875), p. 292. 

[79] Savigny 758, p. 395. 

[80] Cluny, Tome IV, 3529, p. 651. 

[81] Savigny 758, p. 395. 

[82] Savigny 757, p. 393. 

[83] Cluny, Tome IV, 3529, p. 651. 

[84] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 23, p. 20. 

[85] William of Tyre I.XVII, p. 45. 

[86] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXII, p. 315. 

[87] William of Tyre III.V, p. 118. 

[88] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXIX, p. 321. 

[89] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 25, p. 21. 

[90] Bernard (1875), p. 301. 

[91] ES III 737. 

[92] Bernard (1875), pp. 302 and 321. 

[93] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 25, p. 21. 

[94] Bernard (1875), p. 301. 

[95] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 316. 

[96] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 146. 

[97] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 146. 

[98] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 147. 

[99] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 26, p. 22. 

[100] Obituaires de Lyon I, Abbaye de Savigny, p. 355.        

[101] Obituaires de Lyon I, Saint-Thomas-en-Forez, p. 449.       

[102] Beaujeu Notre-Dame, 30, p. 32. 

[103] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 153. 

[104] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 32, p. 25. 

[105] Spicilegium Tome III, p. 539. 

[106] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 35, p. 28. 

[107] Gallia Christiana, Tome IV, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Lugunensis Instrumenta, XXVIII, col. 22. 

[108] Gallia Christiana, Tome IV, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Lugunensis Instrumenta, XXX, col. 24. 

[109] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[110] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 41, p. 39. 

[111] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 42, p. 39. 

[112] Obituaires de Lyon I, Saint-Thomas-en-Forez, p. 449. 

[113] Du Bouchet (1662), p. 40. 

[114] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise primatiale de Lyon.     

[115] Obituaires de Lyon I, Abbaye de Savigny, p. 355. 

[116] Obituaires de Lyon I, Abbaye des Bénédictines de Saint-Pierre à Lyon, p. 412.       

[117] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 35, p. 28. 

[118] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1227, MGH SS XXIII, p. 919. 

[119] Gallia Christiana, Tome IV, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Lugunensis Instrumenta, XXX, col. 24. 

[120] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[121] Oujon, 51, p. 76. 

[122] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 38, p. 36. 

[123] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1227, MGH SS XXIII, p. 919. 

[124] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise primatiale de Lyon

[125] Obituaires de Lyon I, Abbaye des Bénédictines de Saint-Pierre à Lyon, p. 412.       

[126] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 35, p. 28. 

[127] Gallia Christiana, Tome IV, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Lugunensis Instrumenta, XXVIII, col. 22. 

[128] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 39, p. 37. 

[129] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 186. 

[130] Obituaires de Lyon I, Saint-Thomas-en-Forez, p. 449.       

[131] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[132] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 38, p. 36. 

[133] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes, Vol. II, 2968, p. 470. 

[134] Huillard-Bréholles (1867), Tome I, 242, p. 52. 

[135] Boudet (1914), p. 54, footnote 3, citing Vachez ‘Le sceau des Baffie’ (1895), p. 313, and Durand ‘La comtesse Ascuraa de Forez’ (1892), p. 352. 

[136] Chaverondier (1860), appendice, p. 489 (full text). 

[137] Durand ‘La comtesse Ascuraa de Forez’ (1892), p. 353. 

[138] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 39, p. 37. 

[139] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 183. 

[140] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 47, p. 41. 

[141] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[142] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 43, p. 39. 

[143] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 45, p. 40. 

[144] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes, Vol. II, 2968, p. 470. 

[145] Baluze (1708) Auvergne, Tome I, p. 103. 

[146] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 201. 

[147] Vachez ‘Le sceau des Baffie’ (1895), p. 313, footnote 5. 

[148] Boudet (1914), p. 54, footnote 3. 

[149] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[150] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes, Vol. II, 2968, p. 470. 

[151] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 38, p. 36. 

[152] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 47, p. 41. 

[153] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 43, p. 39. 

[154] Gallia Christiana, Tome IV, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Lugunensis Instrumenta, XXXVI, col. 27. 

[155] William of Tyre Continuator XXXIII.XLIV, p. 413. 

[156] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 458. 

[157] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 62, p. 50. 

[158] Huillard-Bréholles (1867), Tome I, 49A, p. 13. 

[159] Baluze (1708) Auvergne, Tome II, p. 89. 

[160] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 171. 

[161] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 201. 

[162] Huillard-Bréholles (1867), Tome I, 49A, p. 13. 

[163] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 208. 

[164] Baluze (1708) Auvergne, Tome II, p. 89. 

[165] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 171. 

[166] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 201. 

[167] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 46, p. 40. 

[168] Obituaires de Lyon I, Saint-Thomas-en-Forez, p. 449.       

[169] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1217, MGH SS XXIII, p. 906. 

[170] Corbigny, 13, p. 18. 

[171] Nevers Saint-Cyr, 103, p. 171. 

[172] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 48, p. 41. 

[173] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Eglise cathédrale de Sens, Obituaire du xiii siècle, p. 2.       

[174] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 62, p. 50. 

[175] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes, Vol. II, 2968, p. 470. 

[176] Spicilegium, Tome III, p. 624. 

[177] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 70, p. 58. 

[178] Petit (1888), Vol. II, 695, p. 460. 

[179] Lalore (1885), 170, p. 85, quoting "copie du XVII siècle que nous possédons". 

[180] Montiéramey 410, p. 368. 

[181] Lalore (1885), 176, p. 89, quoting Boutaric (1861) Actes du Parlement de Paris, Tome I, p. 105, no. 1149. 

[182] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 62, p. 50. 

[183] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 188. 

[184] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[185] Huillard-Bréholles (1867), Tome I, 49A, p. 13. 

[186] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1222, MGH SS XXIII, p. 912. 

[187] Juénin (1733), Preuves, p. 183. 

[188] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 67, p. 56. 

[189] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 51, p. 44. 

[190] Cluny, Tome V, 4409, p. 784. 

[191] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 75, p. 61. 

[192] Le Laboureur (1681), Tome II, p. 532, which gives no primary source citation reference. 

[193] State Archives, volume 104, pages 31-32, fascicules 19.1 and 2, and Guichenon (Savoie), Tome IV, Preuves, p. 100. 

[194] Vachez ‘Roussillon-Annonay’ (1895), p. 597. 

[195] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 201. 

[196] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, pp. 171-2. 

[197] Baluze (1708) Auvergne, Tome II, p. 89. 

[198] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 62, p. 50. 

[199] Spicilegium Tome III, p. 624. 

[200] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 73, p. 58. 

[201] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 75, p. 61. 

[202] Spicilegium Tome III, p. 624. 

[203] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 4, Tome III (1857), p. 257. 

[204] Cluny, Tome VI, 5295, p. 719. 

[205] Obituaires de Lyon II, Collégiale Notre-Dame de Beaujeu, Lièves des Anniversaires, p. 529.       

[206] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 75, p. 61. 

[207] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 75, p. 61. 

[208] Spicilegium Tome III, p. 678. 

[209] Cluny, Tome VI, 5295, p. 719. 

[210] State Archives, volume 104, page 5, fascicule 5, and page 8, fascicule 6.2, respectively. 

[211] State Archives, volume 104, page 11, fascicules 11.1, 2 and 3. 

[212] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise Sainte-Croix de Lyon, p. 274.       

[213] Obituaires de Lyon I, Eglise Sainte-Croix de Lyon, p. 274.       

[214] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 79, p. 72. 

[215] Cluny, Tome VI, 5295, p. 719. 

[216] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 77, p. 68. 

[217] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 78, p. 70. 

[218] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 78, p. 70. 

[219] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 93. 

[220] Birth date range estimate from the birth of her first child (by her first marriage) in [1273/75]. 

[221] Cluny, Tome VI, 5295, p. 719. 

[222] State Archives, volume 104, pages 33 and 34, fascicules 20.1 and 20.2, and La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 81, p. 73. 

[223] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 82, p. 77. 

[224] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 77, p. 68. 

[225] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 78, p. 70. 

[226] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 81 bis, p. 74. 

[227] State Archives, volume 104, pages 33 and 34, fascicules 20.1 and 20.2. 

[228] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 82, p. 77. 

[229] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 78, p. 70. 

[230] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 78, p. 70. 

[231] State Archives, volume 104, pages 33 and 34, fascicules 20.1 and 20.2. 

[232] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 84, p. 77. 

[233] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 83, p. 77. 

[234] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 78, p. 70. 

[235] State Archives, volume 102, page 14.2, fascicule 1. 

[236] State Archives, volume 104, pages 33 and 34, fascicules 20.1 and 20.2. 

[237] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 93. 

[238] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 83, p. 77. 

[239] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 98. 

[240] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91, p. 93. 

[241] De Allobrogibus VIII, p. 441. 

[242] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 84 bis, p. 78. 

[243] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 94, p. 101. 

[244] State Archives, volume 109, page 17, fascicule 2. 

[245] ES III 121 (Das Haus Burgund-Ivrea III). 

[246] State Archives, volume 102, page 17.2, fascicule 3. 

[247] State Archives, volume 102, page 17, fascicule 1. 

[248] State Archives, volume 102, page 18.2, fascicule 1. 

[249] State Archives, volume 104, pages 34 and 37, fascicules 21.1, 21.2 and 21.3. 

[250] State Archives, volume 104, pages 39-42, fascicules 24.1-24.9. 

[251] Inventaire sommaire - Doubs série B (1883), B. 35, p. 19.  

[252] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 96, p. 111. 

[253] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 96 bis, p. 111. 

[254] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 98, p. 114. 

[255] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 93. 

[256] State Archives, volume 104, pages 46, 47 and 49, fascicules 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3. 

[257] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 95 bis, p. 102. 

[258] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 95 ter, p. 103. 

[259] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 93. 

[260] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 93. 

[261] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 95 bis, p. 102. 

[262] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 95 ter a, p. 109. 

[263] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Eglise Cathédrale de Paris, p. 220.       

[264] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 98. 

[265] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 95 ter a, p. 109. 

[266] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 98. 

[267] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 95 ter a, p. 109. 

[268] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 98. 

[269] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 98, p. 114. 

[270] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 82, p. 77. 

[271] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 84 ter, p. 81. 

[272] State Archives, volume 104, pages 46, 47 and 49, fascicules 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3. 

[273] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 100, p. 117. 

[274] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 91 bis, p. 93. 

[275] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 107, 108, p. 135. 

[276] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 111 bis, p. 137. 

[277] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 114 bis, p. 145. 

[278] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 101, p. 122. 

[279] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 100, p. 117. 

[280] Baluze (1708) Auvergne, Tome II, p. 366. 

[281] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 101, p. 123. 

[282] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, p. 123 footnote 1, citing Tome II, chapter LXII. 

[283] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 101, p. 123. 

[284] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 100, p. 117. 

[285] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 102, p. 123, which does not quote the full text of the document which has presumably disappeared. 

[286] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 101, p. 123. 

[287] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 100, p. 117. 

[288] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 106 bis, p. 132. 

[289] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 112, p. 142. 

[290] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 102, p. 122. 

[291] Cluny, Tome I, 656, p. 610. 

[292] Cluny, Tome IV, 2831, p. 34. 

[293] Cluny, Tome IV, 2831, p. 34. 

[294] Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire, LXVIII, p. 179. 

[295] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 113, p. 87. 

[296] Savigny 645, p. 324. 

[297] Savigny 648, p. 326. 

[298] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 90. 

[299] Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire LXVIII, p. 179. 

[300] Cluny, Tome IV, 2831, p. 34. 

[301] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 113, p. 87. 

[302] Cluny, Tome IV, 2831, p. 34. 

[303] Cluny, Tome IV, 2831, p. 34. 

[304] Cluny, Tome IV, 2925, p. 126. 

[305] Cluny, Tome V, 3666, p. 14. 

[306] Cluny, Tome IV, 2925, p. 126. 

[307] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 87. 

[308] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 86. 

[309] Bernard (1875), p. 288.   

[310] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome III, Preuves, 8, p. 9. 

[311] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 90. 

[312] Savigny 836, p. 444. 

[313] Bernard (1875), pp. 302 and 321. 

[314] Bernard (1837), p. 14, citing Cartul. ch. 60. 

[315] Cluny, Tome V, 3703, p. 51. 

[316] Cluny, Tome V, 3703, p. 51. 

[317] Babey L’église de Saint-Albain, p. 12. 

[318] Perroy (1977), Vol. 2, p. 729, 734, citing on p. 734 numerous "Chartes du Forez" by number [not yet consulted], and Perroy, E. ‘La seigneurie de Saint-Bonnet-le-Château’, Annales du Midi, Tome LXXVIII (1966), pp. 285-96 [not yet consulted]. 

[319] Perroy (1977), Vol. 2, p. 729, 734. 

[320] Guichenon (Savoie), Tome I, p. 365. 

[321] Perroy (1977), Vol. 2, p. 729, 734 

[322] Huillard-Bréholles (1867), Tome I, 595, p. 111. 

[323] Huillard-Bréholles (1867), Tome I, 607, p. 113.