northern france

BERGUES, cassel, bethune, lille

 

  v4.10 Updated 15 September 2021

 

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

 

 

Chapter 1.                BERGUES. 2

A.         CHÂTELAINS de BERGUES.. 2

B.         SEIGNEURS de HONDSCHOTE.. 5

Chapter 2.                CASSEL. 10

A.         CHÂTELAINS de CASSEL, SEIGNEURS de HARNES.. 10

B.         SEIGNEURS de BAILLEUL. 16

C.        SEIGNEURS de STEENVOORDE.. 21

Chapter 3.                SEIGNEURS de BETHUNE. 21

A.         SEIGNEURS de BETHUNE.. 21

B.         SEIGNEURS de HOUDAIN.. 55

Chapter 4.                LILLE. 59

A.         CHÂTELAINS de LILLE.. 59

B.         SEIGNEURS de COMINES.. 77

C.        SEIGNEURS d’HALLUIN [HALEWIJN] 94

D.        SEIGNEURS de WAVRIN.. 122

E.         SEIGNEURS de SAINT-VENANT (WAVRIN) 139

F.         SEIGNEURS de SAINT-VENANT (NESLE) 142

G.        SEIGNEURS de HEUDINCOURT et de WAZIERS (WAVRIN) 144

H.        SEIGNEURS de GOISECOURT (WAVRIN) 146

 

 

 

 

Chapter 1.    BERGUES

 

 

 

A.      CHÂTELAINS de BERGUES

 

 

The town of Bergues is located about 10 kilometres south of Dunkerque, about 15 kilometres east of Bourbourg, in the present-day French département of Nord. 

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         WENEMARChâtelain de Bergues.  "…Wynomarus castellanus Bergensis et frater eius Everolphus…" signed the charter dated 1095 under which "Gertrudis…Flandrensis comitissa" donated property to the church of St Walburgis at Furnes[1]

2.         FRODULF .  "…Wynomarus castellanus Bergensis et frater eius Everolphus…" signed the charter dated 1095 under which "Gertrudis…Flandrensis comitissa" donated property to the church of St Walburgis at Furnes[2].  Robert II Count of Flanders swore allegiance to Henry I King of England by charter dated 17 May 1101, witnessed by “...Froaldus de Berges...[3].  "…Froulfus castellanus de Bergis, Theorardus castellanus Broburgensis…Bernoldus de Insula…" signed a charter dated 14 Oct 1104 under which Robert II Count of Flanders donated revenue to the monastery of Bourbourg[4].  "…Levrardi castellani de Broburg, Froolfi castellani de Bergis…Bernoldi de Insula, Malgeri et Johannis fratris eius" signed a charter dated 21 Mar 1107 under which Robert II Count of Flanders donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg[5].  "…Theinardus castellanus, Frooldus castellanus, Willelmus castellanus…Bernoldus ex Insula, Malgerus nepos eius, Johannes frater eius, Jordan, Folco filius Malgeri…" signed a charter dated 1112 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders donated revenue to the monastery of Bourbourg[6]

 

 

1.         GAUTHIER de Bergues (-killed in battle mid-1102).  The Chronica Monasterii Watinensis cites a donation by "Walterus Bergensis", witnessed by (among others) "Gislebertus frater Balduini Gandensis qui ab Anglia tunc venerat"[7].  Albert of Aix names "…Walterus de Berga…" among those who fled to Ramla after Baudouin I King of Jerusalem was defeated in a military campaign, dated to mid-1102 from the context[8]

 

2.         FIBOLF (-after 1118).  Châtelain de Bergues.  “Fibolfi castellani Bergensis...” witnessed the charter dated 1118 under which “Willelmus...Philippi comitis filius” donated property to “Loensi ecclesiæ S. Petri Apostoli[9]same person as...?  FRODULFChâtelain de Bergues.  “...Froulfus castellanus Bergensis...” witnessed the charter dated 1121 under which Charles Count of Flanders confirmed properties of “abbatiæ S. Winnoci Bergensis[10]

 

3.         GILBERT de Bergues (-after 1151).  “...Gislebertus de Bergis...” witnessed the charter dated Jul 1129 under which “Hugo castellanus de Cambrai et dom. de Oisy” donated property to Mont Saint-Eloi[11].  "Gislberti de Bergis…" witnessed the charter dated to [1131] under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated the church of Aubigny to the abbey of "Montesancti Eligii" near Artois[12]Châtelain de Bergues.  “...Gisleberti Bergensis castellani...” witnessed the charter dated 1142 under which Thierry Count of Flanders transferred property from the chapter of Thérouanne to Ypres[13].  "…Gilleberto castellano Bergensi…" signed the charter dated 1150 which records an agreement between Thierry Count of Flanders and "Milo…Morinensis episcopus" regarding the jurisdiction of the church[14].  "…Gislebertus de Bergis…" signed the charter dated 1151 under which Thierry Count of Flanders granted the church of Saint-Martin, Hesdin to "Milonem…Morinorum episcopum"[15]

 

4.         GUY de Bergues (-after 1183).  Châtelain de Bergues.  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Robertus advocatus Betuniensis, Wido castellanus Beugensis...[16].  “...Guidonis Bergensis castellani...” witnessed the charter dated 1169 under which Philippe Count of Flanders founded canons at Artois Saint-Pierre[17].  “...Widone castellano Bergensi et filio eius Giselberto...” witnessed the charter dated to [1183] under which Philippe Count of Flanders divided property attributable to Bergues[18]m ---.  The name of Guy’s wife is not known.  Guy & his wife had one child: 

a)         GILBERT de Bergues (-after Dec 1220).  “...Widone castellano Bergensi et filio eius Giselberto...” witnessed the charter dated to [1183] under which Philippe Count of Flanders divided property attributable to Bergues[19]Châtelain de Bergues.  “G[iselbertus] Bergensis castellanus” settled a dispute between Bergues abbey and “heredes...Basilii de Gardino” by charter dated 1201[20].  “Gillebertus castellanus Bergensis” committed to respect an agreement between Bergues abbey and “Boidini de Billeke” by charter dated Dec 1220[21]

 

5.         GHISLAIN de BerguesChâtelain de Bergues.  “Ghiselinus castellanus Bergensis” notified that “Margareta de Biekenes avia mea” received income from Lisseweghe and Coudekerke by charter dated 27 Aug 1242[22]

 

6.         JEAN de Bergues (-after 1340).  Châtelain de Bergues.  Kervyn de Lettenhove’s commentary on Froissart’s chronicles records the muster list of combattants at “la bataille de monseigneur Loys conte de Flandres, de Nevers et de Rethel...à Aire et à Bapaumes”, from 26 Mar to 27 Sep 1340, which includes “chevaliers bannerets de la conté de Flandres...Jehan chastelain de Bergues...”, a later passage recording his compensation paid 26 Mar/20 Apr[23]

 

7.         JEAN de Bergues (-30 Sep 1380, bur Chartreux de Hérinnes)Châtelain de Bergues.  An epitaph at Hérinnes records the burials of “Jean chastelain de Berghes chevalier, sire de Rompelle et de Stainfort” who died Sep 1380 and of “Sibylle de Gavre chastelaine de Berghes et dame de Gange femme audit chastelain” who died 23 May 1394[24]m as her [second] husband, SIBYLLE van Gavre, [widow of ROBERT [V] Seigneur de Montigny.] daughter of [ARNOUT van Gavre Seigneur de Herchies, de Roosendael, Heer van Liedekerke & his wife Johanna van Rasseghem Vrouw van Rasseghem en Liedekerke, Dame de Lens] (-29 May 1394, bur Chartreux de Hérinnes).  Goethals records her parentage and two marriagesl (no sources cited)[25].  No further information has been found about her first marriage.  An epitaph at Hérinnes records the burials of “Jean chastelain de Berghes chevalier, sire de Rompelle et de Stainfort” who died Sep 1380 and of “Sibylle de Gavre chastelaine de Berghes et dame de Gange femme audit chastelain” who died 23 May 1394[26]Jean & his wife had one child: 

a)         ALEAUME de Bergues ).  Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages (no sources cited)[27]Châtelaine de Berguesm firstly (after 1380) as his second wife, JEAN de Roye Seigneur d’Aunoy et de Muret, son of MATHIEU de Roye Seigneur d’Aunoy & his wife Jeanne de Chërisy Dame de Muret (-Nikopolis [Sep] 1396).  m secondly RAOUL Seigneur de Gaucourt, son of ---.   

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de HONDSCHOTE

 

 

Hondschote is today located on the present-day Franco/Belgian border in the département of Nord, arrondissement Dunkerque, about 15 kilometres due north of Steenvoorde and 25 kilometres north-west of Ypres.  The family of the seigneurs de Hondschote was studied in the late 19th century by Bonvarlet and Bouly de Lesdain[28]

 

 

1.         GUILLAUME [I] van der MoereHe is named as father of Guillaume and Robert in the 1164 charter quoted below.  m ---.  The name of Guillaume’s wife is not known.  Guillaume & his wife had children: 

a)         GUILLAUME [II] van der Moere (-after 1168).  Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed the donation made by “Daniel de Sentinez...” to Saint-Vaast by charter dated 1164, subscribed by “...Guillelmus Morans, Robertus frater eius, filii Guill. Morans...[29].  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Wilhelmus Moran et Robertus frater eius et tres filii eius Balduinus, Robertus, Wilhelmus[30].  m ---.  The name of Guillaume’s wife is not known.  Guillaume [II] & his wife had three children: 

i)          BAUDOUIN de Hondschote (-1205 or after).  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Wilhelmus Moran et Robertus frater eius et tres filii eius Balduinus, Robertus, Wilhelmus[31]

-         see below

ii)         ROBERT .  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Wilhelmus Moran et Robertus frater eius et tres filii eius Balduinus, Robertus, Wilhelmus[32]

iii)        GUILLAUME .  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Wilhelmus Moran et Robertus frater eius et tres filii eius Balduinus, Robertus, Wilhelmus[33]

b)         ROBERT van der Moere (-after 1174).  Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed the donation made by “Daniel de Sentinez...” to Saint-Vaast by charter dated 1164, subscribed by “...Guillelmus Morans, Robertus frater eius, filii Guill. Morans...[34].  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Wilhelmus Moran et Robertus frater eius et tres filii eius Balduinus, Robertus, Wilhelmus[35]

c)         BAUDOUIN .  Prior of Ardres: the Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Balduinus...Willelmi Moranni filius" became prior of Ardres, his father (who held the church of Hondschote from the priory) already being deceased[36]

 

 

BAUDOUIN de Hondschote, son of GUILLAUME [II] van der Moere & his wife --- (-1202 or after).  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Wilhelmus Moran et Robertus frater eius et tres filii eius Balduinus, Robertus, Wilhelmus[37]

m MATHILDE de Guines, daughter of ARNAUD Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Saint-Omer.  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Margaretam…Beatricem…Adelidem …Eufemiam et Luthgaudam…Mathildem…Ghislam…Agnetem" as the eight daughters of "Gandavense Arnoldo" & his wife, specifying that Mathilde married "Balduino filio Willelmi Moranni de Hondeschote"[38]

Baudouin & his wife had [two] children: 

1.         [GAUTHIER [I] de Hondschote (-[1204]).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Roger names “Gauthier de Hondschotte, Flandre” among those who took part in the Third Crusade[39].]  m ---.  The name of Gauthier’s wife is not known.  Gauthier [I] & his wife had two children: 

a)         GAUTHIER [II] de Hondschote (-after 1226).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Galterus miles de Hondeschota” donated "terram meam de Vivario" to the church of the Trinity, Hondschote, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Aelidis et heredum meorum...Joannis primogeniti mei et aliorum”, by charter dated 1220[40]m AELIS, daughter of --- (-after 1220).  “Galterus miles de Hondeschota” donated "terram meam de Vivario" to the church of the Trinity, Hondschote, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Aelidis et heredum meorum...Joannis primogeniti mei et aliorum”, by charter dated 1220[41].  Gauthier [II] & his wife had children: 

i)          JEAN de Hondschote (-after Jul 1258).  “Galterus miles de Hondeschota” donated "terram meam de Vivario" to the church of the Trinity, Hondschote, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Aelidis et heredum meorum...Joannis primogeniti mei et aliorum”, by charter dated 1220[42].  “Jean de Hondscote et Ysabeaux sa femme” notified an agreement between “les hostes de Hondescote” and Watten church relating to payment of revenues by charter dated Jul 1258[43]m ISABELLE, daughter of --- (-after Jul 1258).  “Jean de Hondscote et Ysabeaux sa femme” notified an agreement between “les hostes de Hondescote” and Watten church relating to payment of revenues by charter dated Jul 1258[44]

ii)         other children .  “Galterus miles de Hondeschota” donated "terram meam de Vivario" to the church of the Trinity, Hondschote, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Aelidis et heredum meorum...Joannis primogeniti mei et aliorum”, by charter dated 1220[45]

b)         HENRI de Hondschote (-after 1251)The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Prévôt de Douai, de iure uxorism (before Jul 1228) as her second husband, IDA de Douai, widow of ALARD [III] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Espinoy, daughter of GERARD [III] Prévôt de Douai & his wife Ida de Saint-Omer (-before 1251). 

2.         RICHILDE de HondschoteLe Carpentier names “Hugues le Vasseur chevalier” and “Richilde de Hondschote fille de Baudouin” as parents of Agnes who married “Renier [de Villers]” in 1199, without citing the corresponding primary source[46]m HUGUES le Vasseur, son of ---. 

 

 

1.         PIERRE de Hondschote (-after 1287).  Bonvarlet and Bouly de Lesdain say that Pierre was the son of Jean de Hondschote without citing any source which confirms this information[47].  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  “...Pierre de Hondescote...” subscribed the charter dated 1287 under which Guy Count of Flanders protested his excommunication to “Jean évêque de Tusculum, légat du Saint-Siège en Allemagne[48]

 

2.         GAUTHIER [III] de Hondschote (-[1316/18]).  Bonvarlet and Bouly de Lesdain say that Gauthier was the son of Pierre de Hondschote without citing any source which confirms this information[49].  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  m JEANNE de Haverskerque Dame de Houtkerque, daughter of ---.  Her marriage is recorded by Le Carpentier (who does not name her parents) without citing the corresponding primary source[50].  Gauthier [III] & his wife had one child: 

a)         ALIX de Hondschote (-after Jun 1324).  Le Carpentier records the 1318 marriage contract of Alix de Hondschote and “Gauthier de Lor”, which named her paternal and maternal relatives “Robert de Fiennes, Philippes d’Axele, Thierry de Bevre, Gerard de Rassenghien, Jean de Haversquerque Sr de Watene, Jean de S. Omer Sr de Pennes, Aleaume Brequin, Philippes de Havesquerque et Ysoré de Pennes[51]Accounts dated Dec 1322 record payments to “Galcherus de Lauro armiger ratione uxoris sue filie Galteri de Hondecoste militis” made “super medietatem Ascensionis CCCXXII...per litteram domini de Lauro[52].  Accounts dated 31 Oct 1323 record “Galcherus de Lauro armiger” owing “Galteri de Hondescote...per litteram domini Reginaldi de Lauro patris dicti armigeri[53].  Accounts dated Jun 1324 record “Galcherus de Lauro armiger” owing “Galteri de Hondescote...per dominum Renaudum de Lauro patrem suum”, relating to the same debt[54]m (contract 1318) GAUCHER de Lor, son of RENAUD de Lor & his wife --- de Resson ([before 1300]-after Aug 1355). 

 

 

1.         GAUTHIER de Hondschote (-after 1352)A register of parliamentary judgments dated 1350 names “Walterus de Hondecote scutifer maritus Mariæ domicellæ de Loques filiæ et heredis defuncti Matheir de Bethunia domini de Loques[55]m ([29 Dec 1348/1350]) as her first husband, MARIE de Béthune Dame de Locres et de Herbuterne, daughter of MATHIEU de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne & his wife --- (-1380).  Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[56].  A register of parliamentary judgments dated 1350 names “Walterus de Hondecote scutifer maritus Mariæ domicellæ de Loques filiæ et heredis defuncti Matheir de Bethunia domini de Loques[57].  She married secondly as his second wife, Filip [V] Heer van MaldegemThe obituary of Maldegem records the deaths of “heer Philips van Maldeghem...sone van Mer Philips van Maldeghem die verslegen was te Lyons...vrauwen Sibelien van Borsele syns eerste wyfes, ende vrouwe Marien van Bethune zyns anders wyfs” and donations[58]

 

 

Two brothers.  According to Bonvarlet and Bouly de Lesdain, they were sons of Gauthier [III] de Hondschote[59].  The chronology seems stretched for this to be correct.  An intervening generation seems likely. 

 

1.         GAUTHIER de Hondschote (-before 1378)m as her first husband, BEATRIX de Beaussart, daughter of ROBERT de Beaussart Seigneur de Wingles & his wife Laure Mauvoisin de Rosny (-after 9 Aug 1410).  Béatrix Dame de Hondschote agreed the succession of their father with “madame Ide de Beaussart sa sœur” by charter dated 3 Sep 1375[60]She married secondly (before 10 Nov 1378) as his second wife, Hugues de Melun Burggraaf van GentBéatrix “femme de mgr Hugues de Melun, veuve de Wautier de Hondescot” reached agreement with “messire Thierry de Hondescot frere et héritier dudit Wautier” by charter dated 10 Nov 1378[61]

2.         THIERRY de Hondschote (-after 1382).  Béatrix “femme de mgr Hugues de Melun, veuve de Wautier de Hondescot” reached agreement with “messire Thierry de Hondescot frere et héritier dudit Wautier” by charter dated 10 Nov 1378[62]m (before 19 Mar 1373) JEANNE de Flandre, illegitimate daughter of LOUIS II “de Male” Count of Flanders & his mistress ---Bonvarlet and Bouly de Lesdain state that she and her husband are named in a charter dated 1373[63].  The charter they cite is the following which does not specify the parentage of the two sisters named: “Floreins Van Maldeghem” acknowledged receipt of money from “Guillaume Vanden Pitte” in favour of “Dame Marguerite femme du Floreins susdit et de Dame Jeanne sœur de Marguerite et femme de Thierry Vam Onscote” by charter dated 19 Mar 1372 (O.S.)[64].  Thierry & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEANNE de Hondschote (-after 1405)A document dated 29 Apr 1396 records that “Ioannes dominus de Boulainville miles cambellanus noster et Ioanna de Hondescoute eius uxor” confirmed an agreement between Philippe VI King of France and “Theodoricum de Hondescoute militem dictæ Ioannæ patrem” in connection with Thierry’s succession[65]m firstly JEAN Seigneur d’Ossignies et de Boulainvilliers, Vicomte d’Aumâle, son of JEAN d’Ossignies & his wife Beatrix de Châtillon (-after Aug 1400).  m secondly [as his second wife?] ARNOLD van Horne Seigneur de Baucigny, son of DIRK-LOEF van Horne Seigneur de Baucigny & his [first wife ---/second wife Isabelle ---] (-1404).  m thirdly (1405) ANTOINE de Craon Seigneur de Beauverger, son of PIERRE de Craon Seigneur de la Ferté-Bernard & his wife Jeanne de Châtillon (killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415). 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 2.    CASSEL

 

 

 

A.      CHÂTELAINS de CASSEL, SEIGNEURS de HARNES

 

 

Cassel is located about 5 kilometres west of Steenvoorde in the present-day French département of Nord, on the border with Belgium.  The later châtelains de Cassel were also seigneur de Harnes, which lies on the eastern outskirts of Lens in the Pas-de-Calais département.  They were also hereditary connétables of Flanders.  There is considerable uncertainty about the origin and early generations of the family of the châtelains de Cassel.  Research has been hindered, rather than helped, by a study published by Smyttère in the mid-19th century[66]Reiffenberg records (in 1838) that "dans un fragment de généalogie de la maison de Bette on lit que Mechtilde de Bette, fille de Gerolf VI de Bette et de Hasaca de St-Omer, épousa (vers 1120) Michiel, sire de Harnes, seigneur de la forteresse de la Montaigne de Cassel"[67]Smyttère states that the original of this "fragment de généalogie" could no longer be located by the time he wrote (in 1866)[68].  No evidence has been found that the fragment has emerged since then, so it is impossible to verify its provenance or assess whether it was based on primary source information which has since disappeared.  In the same passage, Reiffenberg continues by adding that "son père Michel de Harnes avait épousé Cunégonde, fille et héritière de Robert de Cassel connétable de Flandre, tué dans la bataille de Cassel en 1072", and comments that as a result of this marriage the seigneurie of Cassel and the connétablie of Flanders passed to the Harnes family[69].  This second comment does not appear, from the context, to be based on the "fragment", nor does it appear to be corroborated by the limited amounf of primary source data which has been found during the preparation of the present chapter. 

 

The comment relates to two titles, the seigneurie of Cassel and the connétablie of Flanders.  Dealing first with the connétablie, the first reference to the position so far found is dated 1093, a charter which names "Gerardo stabulario" (see below).  His successor appears to have been "Amalrici stabularii" who is named from 1110 to 1116 and has been identified as Heer van Ninove (see below in this document the chapter dealing with the Heren van Ninove).  Amaury was succeeded as connétable by his son Gérard, which suggests that the Gérard of 1093 may have been a member of the same family.  Gérard [II] is last recorded as connétable in a charter dated 1139.  Michel de Harnes is named as connétable in a source dated 1133, which demonstrates that more than one individual held the position at the same time.  In 1154, Henri Châtelain de Brobourg is recorded as connétable, and the earliest reference so far found to a second Michel de Harnes as connétable is dated 1163.  No relationship has been found between the Ninove/Bourbourg/Harnes families which would suggest that the position passed by hereditary succession. 

 

Turning to the seigneurie of Cassel, discussion of primary sources inevitably focuses on the châtellenie. "Gerardo castellano de Cassel" is named between 1110 and 1123.  He is not named connétable in these sources, so it is unlikely that he was the same person as connétable Gérard (who in any case seems to have been succeeded in the position by Amaury by 1110, as noted above).  The earliest references to Michel de Harnes holding both positions date to the latter part of the 12th century.  Smyttère explains the apparent inconsistency between the sources and Reiffenberg by drawing a distinction between the seigneurs of Cassel and the châtelains of Cassel[70].  He cites no sources (apart from Reiffenberg) which record seigneurs at Cassel, and none has been found while preparing this chapter.  Smyttère’s discussion of the early members of the Harnes family relies exclusively on Reiffenberg, although he does admit, in relation to Michel [I] de Harnes husband of Cunégonde according to Reiffenberg, "disons que certains auteurs paraissent avoir des doutes sur l’identité de ce personnage dont il sera peu parlé; du reste nous ne trouvons pas de détails positifs sur ce Michel"[71]

 

The inevitable conclusion is that there is no corroborating evidence that the individuals who are referred to by Reiffenberg as Michel [I] and [II] ever existed.  Reiffenberg continues by stating that "Michel de Harnes troisième de ce nom mourut en 1151, Michel IV l’an 1198; celui-ci fut père de Philippe de Harnes qui épousa Adélaïde, fille de Nicolas de Boulers et d’Ida de Rœulx; de ce mariage naquit Michel V, celui-là même qui vendit sa châtellenie de Cassel"[72].  Some of these statements can be corroborated by other sources.  

 

 

1.         GERARD (-after 2 Jun 1123).  Châtelain de Cassel.  "…Gerardo castellano de Cassel…" signed the charter dated 1110 under which Robert II Count of Flanders donated property to Faumont[73].  "…Gerardi de Cassello…" signed the charter dated 5 Aug 1111 under which Robert II Count of Flanders confirmed exemptions to Saint-Amand[74].  "…Gerardus castellanus Casletensis…" signed the charter dated 26 Oct 1122/2 Jun 1123 under which Burchard Bishop of Cambrai confirmed possessions of Saint-André de Cambrésis[75]

 

2.         MICHEL [I] (-after 1142)Connétable de Flandre: "…Razonis butellarii, Michaelis conestabuli…" signed the charter dated 1133 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to Gand Saint-Pierre[76].  "…Gisleberti Bergensis castellani, Willelmi Audomarensis castellani, Henrici Broburgensis, Michaelis Casletensis, Anselmi Iprensis, Roberti Insulensis, Radulphi Brugensi…" signed the charter dated 1142 under which Thierry Count of Flanders ordered the destruction of the castle built by "Arnulpho Teruanensi advocato"[77]m (before 12 Jun 1138) ---.  Pope Innocent III wrote to the bishops of Thérouanne and Arras requesting them to investigate "parentelæ" between "M. comestabulum Flandrensis comitis et uxorem suam"[78]

 

3.         MICHEL [II] (-[1196/98]).  Châtelain de Cassel.  Connétable de Flandre: Thierry Count of Flanders agreed the respective rights of Saint-Pierre de Gand and "Michael constabularius" in "ville de Harnes tandem apud castellum Lens" by charter dated 1163 under which "Heimericus de Lophen" donated "hereditatem meam in pago Bracbantense in villa Berda vel Cuckenbeca" to Saint-Pierre de Gand[79].  "…Michaelis conestabuli…" signed the charter dated 16 Feb 1167 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed provisions relating to the avouerie of Marchiennes[80].  "Michael constabularius Flandrie et Casletensis castellanus" confirmed donations to Saint-Bertin by undated charter, witnessed by "Ada uxor mea, Philippus et Micael filii mei"[81].  "…Michaelis constabularii…" signed the charter dated 1181 under which Philippe Count of Flanders donated property to Avesnes Notre-Dame[82].  “Michael constabularius comitis Flandrie et filius eius Philippus dominus et advocati de Bouleir” confirmed possessions of Ninove by charter dated 1181[83].  "Michael constabularius Flandriæ…et uxor mea Ada et filius meus Philippus et uxor eius Aliz" donated annual revenue to Ninove by charter dated 1181[84]m ADA, daughter of ---.  "Michael constabularius Flandrie et Casletensis castellanus" confirmed donations to Saint-Bertin by undated charter, witnessed by "Ada uxor mea, Philippus et Micael filii mei"[85].  "Michael constabularius Flandriæ…et uxor mea Ada et filius meus Philippus et uxor eius Aliz" donated annual revenue to Ninove by charter dated 1181[86].  Michel & his wife had two children: 

a)         PHILIPPE (-[1196/early 1197]).  “Michael constabularius comitis Flandrie et filius eius Philippus dominus et advocati de Bouleir” confirmed possessions of Ninove by charter dated 1181[87].  "Michael constabularius Flandrie et Casletensis castellanus" confirmed donations to Saint-Bertin by undated charter, witnessed by "Ada uxor mea, Philippus et Micael filii mei"[88].  "Michael constabularius Flandriæ…et uxor mea Ada et filius meus Philippus et uxor eius Aliz" donated annual revenue to Ninove by charter dated 1181[89].  His death, presumably in [1196/early 1197], is established by the 30 Jul 1197 charter quoted below in which his wife’s second husband is named “constabularius de Boular”.  m (before 1181) as her first husband. ALIX van Boelare Vrouw van Boelare, daughter of NIKOLAAS van Boelare [Boulers] & his wife Ada de Rœulx (-after Mar [1239]).  "Michael constabularius Flandriæ…et uxor mea Ada et filius meus Philippus et uxor eius Aliz" donated annual revenue to Ninove by charter dated 1181[90].  She married secondly (before 30 Jul 1197) Gilles [II] Seigneur de Trazegnies.  “Aegidius constabularius de Boular et dominus de Silli” confirmed that "Berta de Stenhus...cum filiis suis Amelrico, Gerardo, Sockino, Balduino" had donated “decimæ de Vorda”, which she held from him, to Ninove, with the consent of “advocati sui Willelmi...de Luceau”, by charter dated 30 Jul 1197[91].  She married thirdly ([1207]) Raso [VII] van Gavre Heer van Liedekerke.  "Alicia domina de Boular" donated property "prope villam de Idenghem" to Ninove, with the consent of "domini Michaelis filii mei Flandrensis constabularii", by charter dated Feb 1216[92].  "Alicia domina de Boular" confirmed her donation of "tria bonaria prati de allodio meo in parochia de Ydenghem, jacentia juxta Teneram versus Loetsh" to Ninove, with the consent of "liberorum meorum", by charter dated Dec 1217, signed by "Adæ filiæ meæ…"[93].  "Alicia domina de Bouler" donated revenue from "prati apud Odevarsnest" to Ninove by charter dated Feb 1222, signed by "Soikini prioris, Symonis de Gant canonici Ninivensis, Gosuini militis de Emelverdenghem, Walteri de Deftenghem, Razonis filii mei, Gerardi Vander Beuren, Adæ filiæ meæ"[94].  "Alicia domina de Boular" confirmed the donation made by "dominus Gossuinus de Scendelbecca et…filia mea Ada uxor eius" to Ninove by charter dated Feb 1232[95].  "Alicia domina de Boular" confirmed the donation of property "in parochia de Asplar et de Neder-Hasselt" to Ninove by "filius meus Philippus miles" by charter dated 24 Jun 1236[96].  “Alidis domina de Boular” donated property to Beaupré abbey, with the consent of “filiorum meorum...Philippi majoris natu, Ostonis, Ægidii et Rasonis, domini Gosuini de Scendelbeka et Ada filiæ, uxoris Gosuini”, by charter dated Mar 1238 (O.S.?)[97].  She is named “Aelidis quondam dominæ de Boulers matris suæ et meæ” in the charter dated Oct 1256 under which “Ægidius dictus le Brun de Trazegnies constabularius Franciæ” confirmed that “Osto quondam dominus de Trazegnies frater meus” had donated property to Beaupré abbey[98].  Philippe & his wife had [three] children: 

i)          MICHEL [IV] (-1230).  "Alicia domina de Boular" donated property "prope villam de Idenghem" to Ninove, with the consent of "domini Michaelis filii mei Flandrensis constabularii", by charter dated Feb 1216[99].  “Michel de Bollers connétable de Flandre” donated certain rights to Watten, with the consent of “Christine sa femme”, by charter dated 1218[100].  "Michael de Harnes Flandrie constabularius" sold "castellaturam Casletensem" to Jeanne Ctss of Flanders in exchange for property "in Broxella, in Polinchove, in Rubruec et in Liedersella" by charter dated 24 Oct 1218[101].  “Michel de Bollers connétable de Flandre et seigneur de Harnes” donated land at “Nordpeene” to Watten, with the consent of “Christine sa femme”, by charter dated Jan 1221 (presumably O.S.)[102]m firstly BEATRIX van Nevele, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage and family origin has not been identified.  m secondly (before 1218) CHRISTINE, daughter of ---.  “Michel de Bollers connétable de Flandre” donated certain rights to Watten, with the consent of “Christine sa femme”, by charter dated 1218[103].  “Michel de Bollers connétable de Flandre et seigneur de Harnes” donated land at “Nordpeene” to Watten, with the consent of “Christine sa femme”, by charter dated Jan 1221 (presumably O.S.)[104].  Christine’s involvement in these two donations suggests that she may have had a direct interest in the properties donated, which if correct could provide a clue to her family origin.  Michel [IV] & his first wife had one child: 

(1)       PHILIPPA de Harnes (-[1240?]).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hugo patri succedens in terra de Antoing et de Espinoit" married “Philippam unicam filiam...domini Michaelis de Harnes eiusque hæredem[105].  "Robertus Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethunie ac Teneremondæ dominus" confirmed the donation of property "in territorio de Woestina" made to Braella abbey by "Hugo dominus d´Antoing et d´Espinoy miles homo meus et domina Philippa uxor eius filia quondam bonæ memoriæ viri nobilis domini Michaelis de Harnis militis" by charter dated Dec 1231[106].  “Hugo de Antoing miles” acknowledged the homage given to the king of France for “terra bonæ memoriæ Michaelis de Harnis soceri sui…ratione Philippæ uxoris suæ devoluta" by charter dated 21 Mar [1234/35][107].  Bearing in mind that the couple had [five] known children, Bert M. Kamp dates Philippa’s death to “about 1240”, which seems a reasonable working basis[108]m (before 11 Nov 1230) as his first wife, HUGUES Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy, son of ALARD [III] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy & his wife Ida de Douai (1204-24 Jun [1270]). 

ii)         PHILIPPE de Cassel (-after Mar 1247).  "Philippus de Boular constabularius Flandriæ et dominus de Asplar" donated rights to a family of serfs to Ninove by charter dated Dec 1231[109].  "Philippus de Boular constabularius Flandriæ…cum Helewidis de Neder-Hasselt" donated rights to land "in parochia de Neder-Hasselt" to Ninove by charter dated 1231[110].  "Philippus filius nobilis matronæ Aliciæ dominæ de Boular" confirmed the donation made by "dominus Gossuinus de Scendelbecca et…soror mea Ada uxor eius" to Ninove by charter dated Feb 1232[111].  Heer van Boelare. 

-         HEREN van BOELARE

iii)        [ADA (-after Mar 1238).  "Alicia domina de Boular" confirmed her donation of "tria bonaria prati de allodio meo in parochia de Ydenghem, jacentia juxta Teneram versus Loetsh" to Ninove, with the consent of "liberorum meorum", by charter dated Dec 1217, signed by "Adæ filiæ meæ…"[112].  It is not known whether Ada was her mother’s daughter by her first or second marriage, although there seems insufficient time for Alix van Boelare to have given birth to three children by her second husband.  "Alicia domina de Bouler" donated revenue from "prati apud Odevarsnest" to Ninove by charter dated Feb 1222, signed by "Soikini prioris, Symonis de Gant canonici Ninivensis, Gosuini militis de Emelverdenghem, Walteri de Deftenghem, Razonis filii mei, Gerardi Vander Beuren, Adæ filiæ meæ"[113].  "Alicia domina de Boular" confirmed the donation made by "dominus Gossuinus de Scendelbecca et…filia mea Ada uxor eius" to Ninove by charter dated Feb 1232[114].  “Alidis domina de Boular” donated property to Beaupré abbey, with the consent of “filiorum meorum...Philippi majoris natu, Ostonis, Ægidii et Rasonis, domini Gosuini de Scendelbeka et Ada filiæ, uxoris Gosuini”, by charter dated Mar 1238[115]m GOSSUIN de Schendelbeke, son of ---.] 

b)         MICHEL [III] (-after 22 Oct 1226).  "Michael constabularius Flandrie et Casletensis castellanus" confirmed donations to Saint-Bertin by undated charter, witnessed by "Ada uxor mea, Philippus et Micael filii mei"[116].  "Michel oncle de connétable" was appointed one of the arbitrators to settle differences arising from the sale of the connétablie to Jeanne Ctss of Flanders, dated 22 Oct 1226[117]

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de BAILLEUL

 

 

1.         GUY de Bailleul (-after May 1047).  “…Widonis de Belliolo…” subscribed the charter dated May 1047 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed the possessions of Marciennes abbey[118]

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         BAUDOUIN de Bailleul (-after 1142).  “...Baldeuuini de Bella...” witnessed the charter dated 15 Sep 1116 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders granted exemptions to the inhabitants of Ypres[119].  “...Balduinus et Hugo de Bailleul fratres...” witnessed the charter dated Jul 1129 under which “Hugo castellanus de Cambrai et dom. de Oisy” donated property to Mont Saint-Eloi[120].  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed the settlement of a dispute involving Thérouanne by charter dated 1142, witnessed by "...Balduini de Baillol..."[121]. m EUPHEMIA de Saint-Omer, daughter of GUILLAUME [II] Châtelain de Saint-Omer & his wife Mélisende de Picquigny.  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Mathildis…Eufemia…Gisla de Monasteriolo…Luchgardis et Beatrix" as the five daughters of "Willelmus Andomarensis castellanus" & his wife, specifying that Euphemia married "Balduino de Balliolo" and naming their six children "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam"[122].  Baudouin [I] & his wife had six children: 

a)         GERARD [I] de Bailleul .  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam" as the children of "Balduino de Balliolo" and his wife[123]

b)         HOSTO de Bailleul .  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam" as the children of "Balduino de Balliolo" and his wife[124]

c)         ADELAIS de Bailleul .  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam" as the children of "Balduino de Balliolo" and his wife[125]

d)         MATHILDE de Bailleul .  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam" as the children of "Balduino de Balliolo" and his wife[126].  Abbess of Wherwell [Hampshire]. 

e)         HELISENDE de Bailleul .  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam" as the children of "Balduino de Balliolo" and his wife[127]

f)          MARGUERITE de Bailleul .  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "filios Gerardus et Hostonem et filias Adelidem de Comminiis, Mathildem in Anglia abbatissam de Warewella, Ylessendam et Margaretam" as the children of "Balduino de Balliolo" and his wife[128]

2.         HUGUES de Bailleul (-after [1140]).  “...Balduinus et Hugo de Bailleul fratres...” witnessed the charter dated Jul 1129 under which “Hugo castellanus de Cambrai et dom. de Oisy” donated property to Mont Saint-Eloi[129].  "Robertus…Betuniæ advocatus" donated "villam…Monciacum" {Monchy} to "abbate Nicolao et monachis Corbeiensibus", for the souls of "…uxoris Adelisæ et filiorum", by charter dated to [1140], witnessed by "...Hugo de Ballolio..."[130]

 

 

Four brothers.  The primary source which confirms their parentage has not been identified.  From a chronological point of view, it is probable that they were the grandsons of Baudouin [I] de Bailleul.  

1.         BAUDOUIN [II] de Bailleul (-Acre [1190])Châtelain d’Ypres...Bauduin châtelain d’Ypres…” witnessed the charter dated 1158 under which Thierry Count of Flanders granted an extension to the fair of Messines[131].  If this document and the other documents quoted in this paragraph are correctly dated, Fromold [IV] was appointed châtelain while Baudouin was also châtelain, unless there were two individuals named Baudouin, the second of whom succeeded Fromold [IV].  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed rights of Marciennes by charter dated 16 Feb 1166, signed by “...Balduini cast. Yprensis...[132].  “...Balduino castellano de Ypra...” witnessed the charter dated 21 Apr 1168 under which Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of land made by “Oilardus de Elverdingha” to Ypres Saint-Martin[133].  Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed that “prepositus Balduinus Yprensis ecclesie beati Martini” had donated “duas partes decimationis de Sudscota...per manum Balduini de Balliolo Yprensis...castellani” to Ypres Saint-Martin by charter dated 1171[134].  “Gerardus de Bella” donated land “apud Rentecham” to Saint-Godard hospital, for the souls of “patris mei et Hostonis fratris mei”, with the consent of “Baldeuini castellani fratris mei”, by charter dated to [1174][135].  “...Balduino castellano Yprensi, Gerardo castellano Oudenburgensi...” witnessed the charter dated 1187 under which Philippe Count of Flanders granted land to build a hospital at Ypres[136].  “Dominus Baldewinus castellanus Yprensis” donated produce from his mill in Ypres to the leprosorum at Ypres, before leaving for Jerusalem, by charter dated 1187[137]

-        CHÂTELAIN d’YPRES

2.         GERARD [II] de Bailleul (-before 1216).  “Gerardus de Bella” donated land “apud Rentecham” to Saint-Godard hospital, for the souls of “patris mei et Hostonis fratris mei”, with the consent of “Baldeuini castellani fratris mei”, by charter dated to [1174][138]Châtelain d’Oudenburg: Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed that “Arnoldus vicecomes de Gistella cum uxore sua Agnete” donated property “in parochia de Erneghem et Westkerca et Roxem et Bekeghem, inter Pita et Watervalla...decimam...ab ecclesia S. Nicolai de Ribelmund” to Oudenburg abbey by charter dated 1180, witnessed by “...Gerardus vicecomes de Aldenburg...Christianus de Gistella...[139]

-        CHÂTELAINS d’OUDENBURG

3.         HOSTO de Bailleul (-before [1174]).  “Gerardus de Bella” donated land “apud Rentecham” to Saint-Godard hospital, for the souls of “patris mei et Hostonis fratris mei”, with the consent of “Baldeuini castellani fratris mei”, by charter dated to [1174][140].  “Gerardus castellanus de Aldeburg” recalled the donation of property “apud villam Erdenka” made to Saint-Godard hospital by “frater meus Balduinus de Balliolo”, for the soul of “fratris sui Hostonis”, adding a donation “postmodum ad eandem fratris mei successissem hereditatem quam habebat in Erdenka” made “per manum domini et nepotis mei Balduini”, with the consent of “Vergina uxore mea”, by charter dated 1201[141]

4.         HENRI de Bailleul (-after 1201).  Ypres Saint-Martin sold “decimam in Meterna” to “Henricum fratrem Balduini castellani Yprensis” by charter dated 1183[142].  The confirmation of properties of Ypres Saint-Martin issued by Pope Innocent II on 3 Aug 1200 refers to “partem decime in Meterna ab Henrico de Balolia[143].  “...Henrici de Balliolo...Hostonis de Balliolo” witnessed the undated charter under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of property “apud villam Erdenka” made to Saint-Godard hospital by “Gerardus de Oudenburg” (made in a charter dated 1201)[144]

 

 

Two possible brothers, their names indicating descent from the previous family. 

1.         [BAUDOUIN (-after Feb 1223).  Canon at Commines: “Egidius Bartouth et Katerina uxor mea” confirmed the donation of eel ponds to Dunes made by “bone memorie nobilis vir Gerardus de Baliul castellanus de Aldenburga et Virginia uxor eius, pater...et mater uxoris mee”, with the consent of “duorum filiorum uxoris mee Eustacii et Gerardi”, by charter dated 27 Jun 1217, witnessed by “Balduinus canonicus de Commines frater uxoris mee...[145].  The charter dated 1204, quoted under OUDENBURG, suggests that Catherine and Marie were the only children of Gérard de Bailleul Châtelain d’Oudenburg.  If that is correct, it is more likely that “avunculus” should be interpreted as meaning “great-uncle” and that Baudouin was a more remote relation.  In addition, if Baudouin was the son of Gérard, he would have inherited Oudenburg, which in fact passed to Gérard’s daughter Catherine.  “...Girardi fratris mei, Balduini avunculi mei...” witnessed the charter dated Feb 1223 under which “Eustachius Flandrie camerarius et scouteta de Oudenborg” sold property to Oudenburg abbey[146].] 

2.         [HOSTO (-after 1223).  “...Henrici de Balliolo...Hostonis de Balliolo” witnessed the undated charter under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of property “apud villam Erdenka” made to Saint-Godard hospital by “Gerardus de Oudenburg” (made in a charter dated 1201)[147].  “...Gerardi fratris mei, Hostonis avunculi mei” witnessed the charter dated 1224 under which “Eustachius camerarius et scoutethe de Oudenborgh” donated property “in perrochia de Westende...in Ysara” to Oudenburg abbey[148].  The charter dated 1204, quoted under OUDENBURG, suggests that Catherine and Marie were the only children of Gérard de Bailleul Châtelain d’Oudenburg.  If that is correct, it is more likely that “avunculus” should be interpreted as meaning “great-uncle” and that Hosto was a more remote relation.  In addition, if Hosto was the son of Gérard, he would have inherited Oudenburg, which in fact passed to Gérard’s daughter Catherine.] 

 

 

Bailleul was later held by Nicolas Seigneur de Condé (died 23 Jun after 1219) (see the document HAINAUT).  The basis of this acquisition has not been ascertained: maybe he inherited it from his mother or by right of his wife. 

 

 

 

C.      SEIGNEURS de STEENVOORDE

 

 

1.         BAUDOUIN de Steenvoorde (-before 1237).  m ELISABETH, daughter of ---.  "Elizabeth relicta Balduini de Steinfort…et duæ filiæ meæ Margareta et Aleidis" founded the abbey of s’ Hemelsdale near Brugge by charter dated Dec 1237[149].  Boudewijn & his wife had two children: 

a)         MARGUERITE .  "Elizabeth relicta Balduini de Steinfort…et duæ filiæ meæ Margareta et Aleidis" founded the abbey of s’ Hemelsdale near Brugge by charter dated Dec 1237[150]

b)         ALEIDIS .  "Elizabeth relicta Balduini de Steinfort…et duæ filiæ meæ Margareta et Aleidis" founded the abbey of s’ Hemelsdale near Brugge by charter dated Dec 1237[151]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 3.    SEIGNEURS de BETHUNE

 

 

A.      SEIGNEURS de BETHUNE

 

 

The history of the family of Béthune was studied in the 17th century by Du Chesne[152]

 

 

1.         ROBERT [I] de Béthune (-[after 1038]).  An undated charter records that "Robertus Faisceuls" founded the church of Saint-Barthélemy, that after his death "Robertus filius suus" confirmed his father’s foundation, that “Roberto filio suo” went to Rome where he obtained confirmation of the foundation from Pope Leo IX, that "Robertus…Grossus pater Guillelmi" built three chapels in one of which "filium suum Robertum fratrem Guillelmi" was buried, that "Robertus Rufus nepos ipsius…et mater eius Clementia" donated property[153].  Avoué of Saint-Vaast, Arras: “Leduinus abbas monasterii beati Vedasti...cum domno Gerardo ecclesiæ Cameracensis et Attrebatensis episcopo, cum Letberto archidiacono nepote eius, cum advocatis etiam Roberto Fasciculo et Helgoto, Albrico...castellano” confirmed property of Saint-Vaast by charter dated 1036[154].  [“...Roberti advocati, Iohannis advocati Attrebatensis, Hugonis Aldenardensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1038 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed possessions of the abbey of Marciennes[155].  It is not certain whether this document refers to Robert [I] or Robert [II].  However, in this charter dated 1038 the name of Robert precedes that of Jean, whereas in the document dated 1046 quoted below their names are reversed, which suggests different levels of seniority which may indicate that the earlier document relates to Robert [I] and the later one to his son Robert [II].]  m ---.  The name of Robert’s wife is not known.  Robert [I] & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         ROBERT [II] de Béthune (-[1067]).  An undated charter records that "Robertus Faisceuls" founded the church of Saint-Barthélemy, that after his death "Robertus filius suus" confirmed his father’s foundation, that “Roberto filio suo” went to Rome where he obtained confirmation of the foundation from Pope Leo IX, that "Robertus…Grossus pater Guillelmi" built three chapels in one of which "filium suum Robertum fratrem Guillelmi" was buried, that "Robertus Rufus nepos ipsius…et mater eius Clementia" donated property[156].  “...Iohannis advocati, Roberti advocati, Rodulfi Tornacensis, Rodulfi Gandensis, Hugonis Hauet” subscribed the charter dated 1046 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed possessions of the abbey of Marciennes[157]

-        see below

b)         [JEAN [II] (-after 1067).  Avoué of Arras: “...Roberti advocati de Attrebato, Ioannis advocati...” subscribed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the confirmation made by Baudouin V Count of Flanders of the donation made by “Ioahnnes vir illustris et Eulalia soror sua” to Hasnon Saint-Pierre[158].  The parentage of Jean [II] is not known.  However, as shown below, other documents are subscribed by Robert de Béthune and Jean, both of whom are identified as avoués of Arras.  The two other documents refer to Jean [I].  The order in which the subscribers are listed in the 1065 charter shows that Robert was more senior than Jean, who is therefore unlikely to have been Jean [I] (who in any case had been disgraced because of his attempt to secure the châtellenie of Cambrai).  It is possible therefore that the second subscriber was also closely related to Robert [II] de Béthune, maybe his younger brother whose appointment was made after the disgrace of his supposed uncle Jean [I].  "...Roberti advocati, Joannis advocati..." subscribed the charter dated 1066 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders donated property to Lille[159].  “......Ioannis Atrebatensis...Gerbodonis advocati de Sancto Bertino” subscribed the charter dated 1067 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders settled a dispute involving the abbey of Bergues Saint-Winec[160].] 

2.         [JEAN [I] (-after 1056).  The ancestry of Jean avoué of Arras is not known.  However, he is named in two charters with Robert de Béthune who is described in other sources as avoué of Saint-Vaast at Arras.  It is possible that they held the same avouerie jointly which suggests that they may have been closely related, maybe even brothers.  Avoué of Arras before 1038: “...Roberti advocati, Iohannis advocati Attrebatensis, Hugonis Aldenardensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1038 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed possessions of the abbey of Marciennes[161].  “...Iohannis advocati, Roberti advocati, Rodulfi Tornacensis, Rodulfi Gandensis, Hugonis Hauet” subscribed the charter dated 1046 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed possessions of the abbey of Marciennes[162].  The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium records that "tirannum quondam…Iohannem, advocatum Atrebatensem" married the widow of "Gualterus Cameracensis castellanus…uxor Ermentrudis" and was appointed Châtelain de Cambrai, dated to [1046/48][163].  The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium records that he was deposed as châtelain by bishop Liébert, after 1056[164].] 

 

 

Four possible brothers, parents not identified: 

1.         MORENS de Béthune .  “Walcherus” donated property “in Gumiuourt” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter witnessed by “...Morengus de Bethunia et Oda uxor eius[165].  “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...[166]m ODA, daughter of ---.  “Walcherus” donated property “in Gumiuourt” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter witnessed by “...Morengus de Bethunia et Oda uxor eius[167]

2.         [WAZO de Béthune .  “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...[168].]  m ---.  The name of Wazo’s wife is not known.  Wazo & his wife had one child: 

a)         HUGUES .  An undated charter records that “Odo...frater ipsius...Fulbertus” donated “de villa...Camblinium...apud Ableuium”, held from “Elberto de Bethunia milite”, to Mont Saint-Eloi, that after the death of Elbert “Sicherus filius eius” wished to annul the acts of his father but that a settlement was agreed with the consent of “domino Roberto advocato filioque eius Balduino”, by undated charter witnessed by “...Hugo filius Wagonis de Bethunia, Manasses, clerici...[169]

3.         [ALULF .  “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...[170]

4.         [ELBERT de Béthune .  “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...[171]

 

 

1.         ROGER “Puer” de Béthune .  “Rogerus puer de Bethunia et Walterus de Goi et Helewidis et Supplicia de Iwenci” donated property to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter[172].  “Rogerus puer et uxor eius Wilburgis” donated property “apud Anesim” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter, confirmed by “Wilburgis uxor eiusdem Rogeri et filiæ eorum Iudith, Helewidis, Godeldis[173]m WIBURGE, daughter of ---.  “Rogerus puer et uxor eius Wilburgis” donated property “apud Anesim” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter, confirmed by “Wilburgis uxor eiusdem Rogeri et filiæ eorum Iudith, Helewidis, Godeldis[174].  Roger & his wife had three children: 

a)         JUDITH .  “Rogerus puer et uxor eius Wilburgis” donated property “apud Anesim” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter, confirmed by “Wilburgis uxor eiusdem Rogeri et filiæ eorum Iudith, Helewidis, Godeldis[175]

b)         HELWIDE .  “Rogerus puer et uxor eius Wilburgis” donated property “apud Anesim” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter, confirmed by “Wilburgis uxor eiusdem Rogeri et filiæ eorum Iudith, Helewidis, Godeldis[176]

c)         GODELDE .  “Rogerus puer et uxor eius Wilburgis” donated property “apud Anesim” to Mont-Saint-Eloi by undated charter, confirmed by “Wilburgis uxor eiusdem Rogeri et filiæ eorum Iudith, Helewidis, Godeldis[177]

 

 

1.         MANASSES de Béthune (-after 1087).  “Gossuini de Montibus, Theoderici de Avesnis, Theoderici de Aldenarda, [Segardi] de Ceocs, Manasse de Betunia, Fastredi, Walteri de Lens, Walcheri de Chirvia, Anselli de Ribodimonte...” subscribed a charter dated 1084 for the abbey of Saint-Denis en Brocqueroie[178].  “...Manassæ de Bethune...” witnessed the charter dated 1087 of “Balduinus Valentainarum comes filius Balduini iunioris[179].  “Manasses de Bethunia” donated property to Anchin by undated charter[180]

 

 

1.         ROBERT “Crassus” de Béthune .  Seigneur d’Arimin.  m HADWIDE, daughter of ---.  “Hadewidis de Bethunia” donated property “apud Arenim” to Mont-Saint-Eloi, for the soul of “mariti sui Roberti Crassi”, by undated charter[181].  Robert & his wife had two children: 

a)         FREDESENDE .  An undated charter records that “Robertus dictus Crassus dominus de Arimino ex Hadvide coniuge procreavit Fredescendem, quam duxit Petrus de Suces, et Odam uxorem Ricardi cognomento Brunonis” and that after his death his wife confirmed donations to Mont-Saint-Eloi, witnessed by “Sicherus filius Elberti[182]m PIERRE de Suces, son of ---. 

b)         ODA .  An undated charter records that “Robertus dictus Crassus dominus de Arimino ex Hadvide coniuge procreavit Fredescendem, quam duxit Petrus de Suces, et Odam uxorem Ricardi cognomento Brunonis” and that after his death his wife confirmed donations to Mont-Saint-Eloi, witnessed by “Sicherus filius Elberti[183]m RICHARD “le Brun”, son of ---. 

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         ELBERT de Béthune (-after [1131]).  "…Elberti de Bethunia…" witnessed the charter dated 1109 under which "Warinus de Dourges" donated "alodium meum de Dourges et de Nigella" to the church of St Eligius near Artois[184].  "…Elberti de Bethunia et Roberti fratris eius" witnessed the charter dated to [1131] under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated the church of Aubigny to the abbey of "Montesancti Eligii" near Artois[185]

-        SEIGNEURS de CARENCY

2.         ROBERT de Béthune (-after [1131]).  "…Elberti de Bethunia et Roberti fratris eius" witnessed the charter dated to [1131] under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated the church of Aubigny to the abbey of "Montesancti Eligii" near Artois[186]

 

 

ROBERT [II] de Béthune, son of ROBERT [I] de Béthune & his wife --- (-[1067]).  An undated charter records that "Robertus Faisceuls" founded the church of Saint-Barthélemy, that after his death "Robertus filius suus" confirmed his father’s foundation, that “Roberto filio suo” went to Rome where he obtained confirmation of the foundation from Pope Leo IX, that "Robertus…Grossus pater Guillelmi" built three chapels in one of which "filium suum Robertum fratrem Guillelmi" was buried, that "Robertus Rufus nepos ipsius…et mater eius Clementia" donated property[187].  “...Iohannis advocati, Roberti advocati, Rodulfi Tornacensis, Rodulfi Gandensis, Hugonis Hauet” subscribed the charter dated 1046 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed possessions of the abbey of Marciennes[188].  "...Ingelramni comitis, Roberti de Bethunia, Rodulfi Gandensis, Elgoti Attrebatensis..." subscribed the charter dated 6 Jan 1056 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed possessions of Saint-Bertin, settling a dispute between the abbot and “Gerbodonis advocati[189].  Robert’s position in the list of subscribers, immediately after the those bearing the comital title, indicates his importance at the court of the count of Flanders.  “...Roberti advocati de Attrebato, Ioannis advocati...” subscribed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the confirmation made by Baudouin V Count of Flanders of the donation made by “Ioahnnes vir illustris et Eulalia soror sua” to Hasnon Saint-Pierre[190].  "...Roberti advocati, Joannis advocati..." subscribed the charter dated 1066 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders donated property to Lille[191].  His death in [1067] is suggested by the charter dated 1067, under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders settled a dispute involving the abbey of Bergues Saint-Winec, which is subscribed by “...Ioannis Atrebatensis...” alone[192]

m ---.  The name of Robert’s wife is not known. 

Robert [II] & his wife had [two] children: 

1.         [ROBERT [III] [“le Chauve”] de Béthune (-after 1097).  The identity of Robert “le Chauve” de Béthune has not been ascertained precisely.  The undated charter which records the foundation of Saint-Barthélemy de Béthune, and the donations made by Robert [I] and Robert [II], does not refer specifically to donations made by Robert “le Chauve”.  The document does record that “Balduinus frater Roberti Calvi” donated "tertiam partem de Robot"[193].  This donation is listed in the document immediately after the donations of Robert [I] and Robert [II], which suggests that Robert “le Chauve” was their successor and therefore that he was Robert [III].  Even if this reasoning is correct, it is not certain that Robert [III] “le Chauve” was the son of Robert [II]: he could alternatively have been the son of Jean [II] who is shown above.  All the following extractrs are assumed to refer to Robert [III].  “...Rodberto Betunio” subscribed the charter dated 1075 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the confirmation made by Robert Count of Flanders of the foundation of the church of Saint-Pierre d’Aire[194].  "Wido comes Pontivensis, frater eius Hugo comes de Sancto Paulo, Eustachius comes Boloniensis, Robertus Bituniensis…" signed the charter dated 1091 under which the abbot of Saint-Bertin and "Manasses comes Gisnensis" made an agreement relating to serfs[195].  "Ingelranus…castri Lilleriensis dominus et nobilis uxor eius Emma" founded Ham abbey by charter dated 1093, witnessed by "Manasses comes Gisnensis, Robertus advocatus Bethuniæ, Bernardus de Ballol, Hugo Albiniensis…"[196].  "...Robertus advocatus..." subscribed the charter dated 1097 under which Lambert Bishop of Arras confirmed possessions of Saint-Eloi[197]

2.         [BAUDOUIN .  An undated charter records that "Robertus Faisceuls" founded the church of Saint-Barthélemy, that after his death "Robertus filius suus" confirmed his father’s foundation, that “Balduinus frater Roberti Calvi” donated "tertiam partem de Robot"[198].  It is not clear from this document that the donor Baudouin was the brother of Robert [III] de Béthune.  However, the donation is referred to immediately after the references to the donations made by Robert [I] and Robert [II], which suggests that Robert “le Chauve” was their successor and therefore that he was Robert [III].]

 

 

1.         ROBERT [IV] [“le Gros”] de Béthune ([1050/65]-after 14 Apr 1127).  The attribution of different nicknames to Robert [III] and Robert [IV] suggests that they were different people, although the chronology could support co-identity.  If that is correct, no primary source has been identified which confirms that Robert [IV] was the son of Robert [III], but that affiliation is probably correct.  His nickname is indicated by the undated charter which records that "Robertus Faisceuls" founded the church of Saint-Barthélemy, that after his death "Robertus filius suus" confirmed his father’s foundation, that "Robertus…Grossus pater Guillelmi" built three chapels in one of which "filium suum Robertum fratrem Guillelmi" was buried, that "Robertus Rufus nepos ipsius…et mater eius Clementia" donated property[199].  “Robertus Atrebatensis advocatus...ac filius meus Balduinus” donated “terram...Fauerils et Istels cum sylva” to Mont Saint-Eloi by undated charter, dated to [1093/1108], witnessed by “Simone castellano, Manasse filio Elberti, Balduino fratre eius[200].  An undated charter records that “Odo...frater ipsius...Fulbertus” donated “de villa...Camblinium...apud Ableuium”, held from “Elberto de Bethunia milite”, to Mont Saint-Eloi, that after the death of Elbert “Sicherus filius eius” wished to annul the acts of his father but that a settlement was agreed with the consent of “domino Roberto advocato filioque eius Balduino”, by undated charter witnessed by “...Hugo filius Wagonis de Bethunia, Manasses, clerici...[201].  Robert II Count of Flanders swore allegiance to Henry I King of England by charter dated 17 May 1101, witnessed by “...Robertus de Bettuna...Baldewinus filius Roberti de Bettuna...[202].  "…Robertus, Bituniensis, Baldus filius eius…" signed the charter dated 15 Feb 1113 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders attested that "Walterio Hisdinensi" had committed to defend the abbey of Saint-Silvin d’Auchy[203].  "…Robertus de Betunia…" signed a charter dated 29 Nov 1121 under which Charles Count of Flanders donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg[204].  "…Robertus advocatus de Betune…" witnessed the charter dated 7 Jul 1123 under which "Hugo de Sancto Paulo cognomen habens Campdaveine" donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg, in the presence of Charles Count of Flanders[205].  An undated charter records that “Dominus Robertus Bituniensis et idem advocatus Attrebatensis”, after donating “terræ...Fauerils” to Saint-Eloi, wished to retain part of the land himself, witnessed by “Guillelmus filius ipsius Roberti, Sicherus de Carenci, Hugo de Carenci, Robertus frater eius, Elbodo de Carenci[206].  "…Hosto castellanus et Guillelmus frater eius, Robertus de Bethuna et Guilelmus filius eius, Anselmus de Hesdinio…Rogerus castellanus Insulensis et Robertus filius eius, Razo de Gavera, Daniel de Tenremont…Henricus de Brocborc, Eustachius advocatus et Arnulphus filius Rius castellanus Gandavensis…" signed the charter dated 14 Apr 1127 under which Guillaume Count of Flanders granted privileges to the town of Saint-Omer[207]m ADELISE, daughter of ---.  “Robertus...Betuniæ advocatus” settled a dispute with Corbie Saint-Pierre, for the souls of “...meæ...et uxoris meæ Adelisæ et filiorum”, by undated charter witnessed by “...De militibus: Ilbertus de Carenci et Robertus frater eius, Ioannes de Beuri, Hugo de Ballolio, Balduinus de Atrebato eiusdem advocati cognatus[208].  Du Chesne indicates that she was Adelise de Péronne, daughter of Robert Seigneur de Péronne & his wife Emma ---[209].  Several sources confirm that Robert Seigneur de Péronne had a daughter named Adélise (see NORTHERN FRANCE NOBILITY).  In addition, her husband was named Robert as shown by the charter dated 1095 under which “Robert Sire de Péronne et Aelis sa compagne” donated property to Mont Saint-Quentin abbey[210].  However, Du Chesne cites no source which confirms that Adelise’s husband was the same person as Robert [IV].  In particular, no source has been found in which Robert de Béthune is named as seigneur de Péronne, although Du Chesne does quote other sources in which the Béthune family refers to Warneston (one of the Péronne properties as noted above) and one source dated Jan 1199 at Péronne[211].  Until more information comes to light, it is suggested that this possible co-identity should be viewed with caution.  Robert [IV] & his wife had two children: 

a)         BAUDOUIN de Béthune (-1113 or after).  “Robertus Atrebatensis advocatus...ac filius meus Balduinus” donated “terram...Fauerils et Istels cum sylva” to Mont Saint-Eloi by undated charter, dated to [1093/1108], witnessed by “Simone castellano, Manasse filio Elberti, Balduino fratre eius[212].  “Robertus Atrebatensis advocatus...ac filius meus Balduinus” donated “terram...Fauerils et Istels cum sylva” to Mont Saint-Eloi by undated charter, dated to [1093/1108], witnessed by “Simone castellano, Manasse filio Elberti, Balduino fratre eius[213].  An undated charter records that “Odo...frater ipsius...Fulbertus” donated “de villa...Camblinium...apud Ableuium”, held from “Elberto de Bethunia milite”, to Mont Saint-Eloi, that after the death of Elbert “Sicherus filius eius” wished to annul the acts of his father but that a settlement was agreed with the consent of “domino Roberto advocato filioque eius Balduino”, by undated charter witnessed by “...Hugo filius Wagonis de Bethunia, Manasses, clerici...[214].  Robert II Count of Flanders swore allegiance to Henry I King of England by charter dated 17 May 1101, witnessed by “...Robertus de Bettuna...Baldewinus filius Roberti de Bettuna...[215].  "…Robertus, Bituniensis, Baldus filius eius…" signed the charter dated 15 Feb 1113 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders attested that "Walterio Hisdinensi" had committed to defend the abbey of Saint-Silvin d’Auchy[216].  [The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “XV Kal Jan” of “Balduinus puer filius Roberti advocati[217].  It is unlikely that this entry refers to Baudouin, son of Robert [IV], who would have been adult by 1113.] 

b)         GUILLAUME [I] de Béthune ([1080/1095]-20 Mar 1138)An undated charter records that “Dominus Robertus Bituniensis et idem advocatus Attrebatensis”, after donating “terræ...Fauerils” to Saint-Eloi, wished to retain part of the land himself, witnessed by “Guillelmus filius ipsius Roberti, Sicherus de Carenci, Hugo de Carenci, Robertus frater eius, Elbodo de Carenci[218].  "…Robertus de Bethuna et Guilelmus filius eius…" signed the charter dated 14 Apr 1127 under which Guillaume Count of Flanders granted privileges to the town of Saint-Omer[219].  “...Willermi advocati de Bethun...” witnessed the charter dated 1135 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to Marciennes abbey[220].  "Guilelmus jure hereditario Betuniensis advocatus" donated property to the church of Saint-Pry, with the consent of "Clementia uxore mea filioque meo Roberto", by charter dated to [1138][221].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “XIII Kal Apr” of “Willermus advocatus[222].  The necrology of Choques records the death “XIII Kal Apr” of “Willermus Bethuniæ advocatus et Clementia uxor eius[223]m CLEMENCE de Cambrai, daughter of HUGUES [II] Châtelain de Cambrai, Seigneur d'Oisy et de Crèvecœur & his wife Hildiarde de Mons (-23 Jun after [1165]).  “Hugo castellanus de Cambray et dominus de Oisy” donated property to Saint-Eloi on the day “Willermus Biturniensis advocatus” married “Clementiam filiam meam”, in the presence of and confirmed by “filio meo Simone et filiabus Clementia, Matilde, Maria”, undated witnessed by “Willermus Bituniensis advocatus...[224].  "Guilelmus jure hereditario Betuniensis advocatus" donated property to the church of Saint-Pry, with the consent of "Clementia uxore mea filioque meo Roberto", by charter dated to [1138][225].  "Robertum Bethunensium advocatum et matrem meam Clemenciam" confirmed donations to the priory of Saint-Pry-lez-Béthune, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et sorore mea Maltide et Roberto filio meo", by charter dated to [1165][226].  “Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[227].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “IX Kal Jul” of “Clementia mater Roberti Rufi[228].  Guillaume [I] & his wife had [three] children: 

i)          ROBERT [V] “le Roux” de Béthune ([1115/20]-killed in battle Acre 10 Jan 1191).  "Guilelmus jure hereditario Betuniensis advocatus" donated property to the church of Saint-Pry, with the consent of "Clementia uxore mea filioque meo Roberto", by charter dated to [1138][229]

-         see below

ii)         MATHILDE de Béthune (-1 Mar after [1165]).  The fact that Mathilde was her parents’ only daughter is suggested by the charter dated 1182 under which her brother "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum"[230].  "Robertum Bethunensium advocatum et matrem meam Clemenciam" confirmed donations to the priory of Saint-Pry-lez-Béthune, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et sorore mea Maltide et Roberto filio meo", by charter dated to [1165][231].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Roberti de Betune Atrebatensi sorore" as the first wife of "Evrardum cognomina Radonem"[232].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “Kal Mar” of “Matildis soror Roberti advocati[233]m (repudiated) as his first wife, EVERARD [III] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai, son of EVERARD [II] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai & his wife Richilde de Hainaut (-[1189/30 Apr 1190]). 

iii)        [daughter .  If nepos can be translated literally in the source quoted below, Robert de Mancicourt was the son of a sister of Robert [VI] de Béthune.]  m --- de Mancicourt, son of ---.  One child: 

(1)       ROBERT de Mancicourt (-after Jul 1198).  “Robertus de Bethunia Attrebatensis advocatus et filius meus Robertus” confirmed a donation to “ecclesia de Richesburs” made by “nepos noster Robertus de Mancicurt...cum uxore sua Susanna” by charter dated 1 Feb 1171[234].  “Willelmus Betuniæ et Teneremundæ dominus et Attrebatensis advocatus” guaranteed the good conduct of “Robertus de Manchicort” in respect of “ecclesiam de Richeborc” by charter dated Jul 1198[235]m SUSANNA, daughter of ---.  “Robertus de Bethunia Attrebatensis advocatus et filius meus Robertus” confirmed a donation to “ecclesia de Richesburs” made by “nepos noster Robertus de Mancicurt...cum uxore sua Susanna” by charter dated 1 Feb 1171[236]

c)         ROBERT de Béthune (-bur Saint-Barthélemy).  An undated charter records that "Robertus Faisceuls" founded the church of Saint-Barthélemy, that after his death "Robertus filius suus" confirmed his father’s foundation, that "Robertus…Grossus pater Guillelmi" built three chapels in one of which "filium suum Robertum fratrem Guillelmi" was buried, that "Robertus Rufus nepos ipsius…et mater eius Clementia" donated property[237]

 

 

ROBERT [V] “le Roux” de Béthune, son of GUILLAUME [II] Seigneur de Béthune & his wife Clémence de Cambrai ([1115/20]-Palestine 18 Jan [1191/92]).  "Guilelmus jure hereditario Betuniensis advocatus" donated property to the church of Saint-Pry, with the consent of "Clementia uxore mea filioque meo Roberto", by charter dated to [1138][238]Seigneur de Béthune.  "Robertus…Betuniæ advocatus" donated "villam…Monciacum" {Monchy} to "abbate Nicolao et monachis Corbeiensibus", for the souls of "…uxoris Adelisæ et filiorum", by charter dated to [1140], witnessed by "Balduinus de Atrebato, eiusdem advocati cognatus"[239].  "…Heinricus castellanus de Broborc, Robertus advocatus Bethunie, Rogerus castellanus de Curt, Eustachius de Greneri camerarius, Frumoldus de Ipre castellanus, Jordanus castellanus de Dichesmer…" signed the charter dated 1162 under which "Willelmus de Ipres…cum Leliosa consanguinea mea et cum filia sua Petronilla" donated revenue from land to the abbey of Bourbourg[240].  "Robertum Bethunensium advocatum et matrem meam Clemenciam" confirmed donations to the priory of Saint-Pry-lez-Béthune, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et sorore mea Maltide et Roberto filio meo", by charter dated to [1165][241].  Philippe Count of Flanders donated fishing rights near Sinten to Dunes by charter dated 1 Dec 1165, witnessed by “...Robertus advocatus Betuniensis, Wido castellanus Beugensis...[242].  “Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[243].  “Robertus de Betuna advocatus Atrebati” donated “terram meam de Messewalla”, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willielmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononi", to Faversham Abbey, Kent by undated charter, dated to the reign of Henry II King of England[244].  "Robertus de Betunia, Atrebatensis advocatus…advocatus de Warneston et Adhelis uxor mea et filii mei Robertus, Willelmus, Balduinus" confirmed the possessions of Warneton abbey by charter dated 1177[245].  "Robberti advocati, Robberti filius eius…" signed the charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177 under which Philippe Count of Flanders declared that his older sister renounced the inheritance of her brother[246].  "…Roberti advocate Bethunie…" signed the charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177 under which Philippe Count of Flanders donated revenue to the church of Notre-Dame de Capelle[247].  "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti…Willermi, Baldevini, Cononis", for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum", by charter dated 1182[248].  "Robertus de Bethunia Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the church at Béthune by undated charter, dated to [1190], witnessed by "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willelmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononis"[249].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Robertus advocatus Betunensis" among those who died in Palestine in [1191][250].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “XV Kal Feb” of “Robertus Rufus advocatus[251]

m (before [1140]) ADELAIDE, daughter of --- (-9 Sep [1177/82]).  "Robertus…Betuniæ advocatus" donated "villam…Monciacum" {Monchy} to "abbate Nicolao et monachis Corbeiensibus", for the souls of "…uxoris Adelisæ et filiorum", by charter dated to [1140], signed by "Balduinus de Atrebato, eiusdem advocati cognatus"[252].  The last-named person in that document may provide a clue to Adelaide’s family origin, the term "cognatus" indicating frequently, although not exclusively, brother-in-law.  “Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[253].  "Robertus de Betunia, Atrebatensis advocatus…advocatus de Warneston et Adhelis uxor mea et filii mei Robertus, Willelmus, Balduinus" confirmed the possessions of Warneton abbey by charter dated 1177[254].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre suggests that Adelaide may have been related to the family of the seigneurs de Saint-Valéry in Normandy when it names "fille fu Bernart de Saint-Waleri…Mehaus" as the wife of "Guillaumes de Brayouse" and comments that she once boasted about her cows to "Bauduin le conte d’Aubemalle son neveu"[255].  The precise relationship between Mathilde de Saint-Valéry and Adelaide’s son Baudouin has not been ascertained.  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “V Id Sep” of “Aelidis advocatissa uxor Roberti Rufi[256]

Robert [V] & his wife had [ten] children: 

1.         ROBERT [VI] de Béthune ([before 1140]-29 Apr [1193/94]).  "Robertus…Betuniæ advocatus" donated "villam…Monciacum" {Monchy} to "abbate Nicolao et monachis Corbeiensibus", for the souls of "…uxoris Adelisæ et filiorum", by charter dated to [1140][257].  It is uncertain which, if any, of Robert [V]’s named children the word "filiorum" in this document relates.  "Robertum Bethunensium advocatum et matrem meam Clemenciam" confirmed donations to the priory of Saint-Pry-lez-Béthune, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et sorore mea Maltide et Roberto filio meo", by charter dated to [1165][258].  “Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[259]Rikildis Aldenardensis domina” donated revenue from “villam...Leseines” to Eename abbey, for the soul of “Gilliberti domini et mariti mei”, by charter dated 1176, witnessed by “...Libbo d’Aldenardo, Alardus de Mercka, et tres cognati mei de Betuna, Roberto, Willelmo, Conrado[260]"Robertus de Betunia, Atrebatensis advocatus…advocatus de Warneston et Adhelis uxor mea et filii mei Robertus, Willelmus, Balduinus" confirmed the possessions of Warneton abbey by charter dated 1177[261].  "Robberti advocati, Robberti filius eius…" signed the charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177 under which Philippe Count of Flanders declared that his older sister renounced the inheritance of her brother[262].  "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti…Willermi, Baldevini, Cononis", for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum", by charter dated 1182[263].  “Robertus de Betuna advocatus Atrebati” donated “terram meam de Messewalla”, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willielmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononi", to Faversham Abbey, Kent by undated charter, dated to the reign of Henry II King of England[264].  "Robertus de Bethunia Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the church at Béthune by undated charter, dated to [1190], witnessed by "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willelmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononis"[265].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “III Kal Mai” of “Roberti advocati filii Roberti Rufi advocati[266]

2.         [BAUDOUIN de Béthune (-young).  “Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[267].  The order of the witnesses suggests that Baudouin was a different person from the other son of Robert named Baudouin, who is named in documentation after his brother Guillaume (see below).] 

3.         GUILLAUME [III] de Béthune (-[13/14] Apr 1214)Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[268]Rikildis Aldenardensis domina” donated revenue from “villam...Leseines” to Eename abbey, for the soul of “Gilliberti domini et mariti mei”, by charter dated 1176, witnessed by “...Libbo d’Aldenardo, Alardus de Mercka, et tres cognati mei de Betuna, Roberto, Willelmo, Conrado[269]"Robertus de Betunia, Atrebatensis advocatus…advocatus de Warneston et Adhelis uxor mea et filii mei Robertus, Willelmus, Balduinus" confirmed the possessions of Warneton abbey by charter dated 1177[270].  "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti…Willermi, Baldevini, Cononis", for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum", by charter dated 1182[271].  “Robertus de Betuna advocatus Atrebati” donated “terram meam de Messewalla”, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willielmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononi", to Faversham Abbey, Kent by undated charter, dated to the reign of Henry II King of England[272].  "Robertus de Bethunia Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the church at Béthune by undated charter, dated to [1190], witnessed by "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willelmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononis"[273]Seigneur de Béthune, de Lokere, de Meulebeeke et de Richebourg.  Willelmus de Betunia dominus de Tenremonde et Mathilde uxor mea” granted privileges to Gand Saint-Pierre by charter dated 1193, witnessed by "…Walteri de Sottinghem, Rasonis de Gavera…"[274].  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[275].  "…Willelmi Bethunæ advocati, Cononis eius fratris…" signed the charter dated Apr 1201 under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders donated property to several monasteries before leaving for Jerusalem[276].  The Chronicle of Jacques de Guise records that “Guillaume le Roux de Bethune, Quenon et Barthelemy ses freres” accompanied “Monseigneur Baudouin de Haynnau et de Flandres” to Constantinople[277].  "Willermus Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethuniæ ac Teneremundæ dominus et Matildis uxor mea…et filii nostri Daniel primogenitus et Robertus" donated property to Beaupré abbey by charter dated 1212[278].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre records the death of "Guillaumes li avoués de Biethune et li viscuens de Meleun", dated to [1214/16] from the context[279].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “Id Apr” of “Willielmi advocati filii Roberti Rufi advocati[280]m MATHILDE van Dendermonde, daughter of WALTER [II] Heer van Dendermonde & his wife Adelisa --- (-18 Apr, 1225 or before).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "l’avoueresse Mehaut…feme fu à l’avoué Guillaume et mere Robiert de Biethune" when recording her husband’s death[281].  “Willelmus de Betunia dominus de Tenremonde et Mathilde uxor mea” granted privileges to Gand Saint-Pierre by charter dated 1193, witnessed by "…Walteri de Sottinghem, Rasonis de Gavera…"[282].  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[283].  "Willermus Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethuniæ ac Teneremundæ dominus et Matildis uxor mea…et filii nostri Daniel primogenitus et Robertus" donated property to Beaupré abbey by charter dated 1212[284].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “XIV Kal Mai” of “Matildis advocatissa domina Teneramundæ[285].  Guillaume [III] & his wife had nine children: 

a)         DANIEL de Béthune (-2 Oct, 1227 or after).  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[286].  "Willermus Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethuniæ ac Teneremundæ dominus et Matildis uxor mea…et filii nostri Daniel primogenitus et Robertus" donated property to Beaupré abbey by charter dated 1212[287].  "Daniel Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethuniæ dominus" donated property to the church of Saint-Barthélemy de Béthune by charter dated Dec 1219 and donated property to the same church by charter dated Dec 1222[288].  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “VI Non Oct” of “Daniel advocatus[289]m as her first husband, EUSTACHIE de Châtillon, daughter of GAUCHER [III] de Châtillon Comte de Saint-Pol & his wife Elisabeth de Saint-Pol.  "Eustacia domini Galcheri de Castillione comitis Sti Pauli filia, uxor…Danielis advocati Attrebatensis ac domini Bettuniensis" confirmed her husband’s donation to the canons of Arras by charter dated Feb 1218[290].  She married secondly as his first wife, Robert [II] de Wavrin Seneschal of Flanders.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married “la sereur le conte Huon de Saint Pol qui avoit esté femme lauoé de Betune” and had “i fil et pluseurs filles[291]

b)         ROBERT [VII] de Béthune (-Sardinia 11/12 Nov 1248).  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[292].  "Willermus Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethuniæ ac Teneremundæ dominus et Matildis uxor mea…et filii nostri Daniel primogenitus et Robertus" donated property to Beaupré abbey by charter dated 1212[293].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Robert don fill" when recording the death of "Guillaumes li avoués de Biethune et li viscuens de Meleun"[294].  "Dominus Robertus, Wilhelmus, Joannes de Bethunia, fratres Danielis tunc temporis domini Bethuniensis, Atrebatensis advocati, et Amalricus de Fontenella, milites, Beatridis comitissa de Gisnes, et Katarina sorores" witnessed the charter dated Nov 1220 under which "Mathildis de Housdaing…domina de Chockes" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques[295].  “Robertus de Betunia dominus de Tenremonde” donated the part of the dimes from Molenbeke belonging to "domina et amita mea Margareta de Tenremonde" to the church of Dendermonde by charter dated Feb 1226[296]m as her second husband, ELISABETH de Morialmes, widow of NICOLAS de Condé, daughter of ARNOUL [IV] de Morialmes & his wife Joie --- (-before Jan 1259).  Henri Bishop-elect of Liège confirmed that “domina Elisabeth bone memorie quondam advocatissa de Bethunia” on her deathbed by testament founded a chaplaincy at Alne, for the souls of “domini Arnoldi de Morialmeis patris sui et specialiter Joie matris sue que in dicto porticu est sepulta”, recording that “marito suo...R[oberto] quondam advocato de Bethunia” had acquired property from Cambron abbey, and that “dominus Jacobus de Balhuel sucessor et heres dicte Elysabeth matris sue” had transferred land to “Colardi filii sui”, by charter dated Jan 1258 (O.S.)[297].  Robert [VII] & his wife had three children: 

i)          --- de Béthune (-[before 7 Feb 1246]).  Klaversma indicates that the marriage contract of Mathilde de Béthune and Guy de Dampierre dated 7 Feb 1246 specified that Mathilde would receive “trois cents livrees de terre que li [=her father Robert de Béthune] avois...en la terre de Termonde...Godefroi de Breda por sa fille que il a pris fame[298].  The wording suggests that Godefrid’s wife was deceased at the time, which would explain why the property reverted to her sister.  Europäische Stammtafeln names her “Clementia” (a name regularly used in the Béthune family), but the primary source on which this information is based has not been identified[299].  As Godefrid [IV] had two children before he died (one referred to in Jun 1243), it is likely that his wife was Robert [VII]’s oldest daughter, probably married before [1242].  m ([1242]) GODEFRID [IV] Heer van Breda, son of GODEFRID [III] Heer van Breda & his wife Oda --- (-25 Apr 1246).  

ii)         MATHILDE de Béthune (after 1230-8 Nov 1264).  Dame de Béthune, Dendermonde, Richebourg et Warneton.  The Genealogia Comitum Flandriæ names "Mathilde filia Roberti Tenremontensis" as wife of "Guido frater eius [=Willelmus]"[300].  The testament of "Mahaut feme au…Guion comte de Flandre et dame de Béthune", dated Mar 1250, is witnessed by "…monseigneur Robert sénéchal de Flandre, monseigneur Hellyn son frère, monseigr Guillaume de Grimberghes"[301].  The Annales Blandinienses record the wife of Comte Guy as "filiam Roberti advocati Bethunensis", and the death of "Mathildis uxor Widonis comitis" in 1262[302]m (contract 2 Feb 1246) as his first wife, GUY de Flandre, son of GUILLAUME [II] Seigneur de Dampierre & his wife Marguerite II Ctss of Flanders and Hainaut ([1225/26]-imprisoned Compiègne 7 Mar 1305, bur Flines).  He succeeded his brother in 1251 as joint Count of Flanders.  He succeeded his mother in 1278 as sole Count of Flanders. 

iii)        ELISABETH de Béthune (-before 1300).  The existence of younger daughter(s) of Robert de Béthune is indicated by the charter dated Oct 1245 under which [her father] “Robers advoez d’Arras et sires de Bethune” refers to “mon aisné hoir Mehault me fille[303].  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...frere [dou seneschal Robert]” married “la fille lauoé Robert de Betune” and had “ii filles[304].  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “secundus filius domini Hugonis de Antoing, Hugo” married secondly "filiam advocati Bethuniæ Roberti, relictam domini Hellini de Waurin"[305].  Brassart states that "Isabeau de Béthune fille de Robert sire de Béthune et de Termonde et d’Isabeau de Moreaumez" was “veuve, avec enfants, de Jean de Steelant avoué d’Usse” when she married Hélie de Wavrin, but he does not cite the primary source on which this statement is based[306]m firstly JEAN de Steelant avoué d’Usse, son of ---.  m secondly HELIE [V] de Wavrin Seigneur de Harponlieu, son of HELIE [IV] de Wavrin & his wife Isabelle de Montmirail (-after Jan 1246).  m thirdly (before 1284) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy, son of HUGUES [II] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy & his first wife Philippa de Harnes (-[1310]). 

c)         BAUDOUIN de Béthune (-after May 1237).  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[307].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "les dues freres Ansiel et Bauduin de Biethune" at the siege of Farnham in 1216[308].  "Robert advocate of Arras and lord of Bethune" granted "the manor of Gayton" to "Baldwin de Bethune", confirmed 27 May 1237[309]

d)         ALIX de Béthune (-after May 1253, bur Igny).  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[310].  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the Feb 1227 charter quoted below.  Guillaume [de Joinville] Archbishop of Reims confirmed that Galcherus dominus de Nantolio et Aelidis uxor eius” donated revenue from “les charbons des bois de Nanteuil” to Igny by charter dated 1222[311].  “Adelix dame de Nanteuil veuve de Gaucher seigneur de Nanteuil” waived the guarantee offered by “Robert avoué d’Arras seigneur de Béthune et Tenremonde son frère” by charter dated Feb 1227[312]The testament of Gaucher Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, dated 1241, appointed as executors “...Gaucher d’Autrèche chevaliers, Alix dame de Nanteuil sa mère et Marie de Brienne son épouse[313]Epitaphs at Igny record the burials of “Galcherus de Nantolio” and of “domina Aelidis de Nantolio” (no dates of death specified)[314]m (after 1203) as his second wife, GAUCHER [II] de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, son of GAUCHER [I] de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Helvide de Nanteuil-la-Fosse (-after May 1224, bur Igny). 

e)         MATHILDE de Béthune (-after 1194).  “Willelmus dominus Bethuniæ et Teneremundæ et advocatus Attreb.” confirmed a donation to Braine Saint-Yved made by “Walterus quondam dominus Teneremundæ”, with the consent of “uxor eius Mathildis, Daniel, Robertus et Balduinus filii eius, item Aelidis et Mathildis filiæ”, by charter dated 1194[315]same person as...?  MATHILDE de Béthune (-after Apr 1246).  Her marriage data (assuming that the Mar 1228 charter is correctly dated) suggests Mathilde was not the same person as Mathilde who was named in 1194.  Maybe the older Mathilde died and was replaced by a younger sister given the same name.  “Robertus advocatus Atrebatensis, Betuniæ et Teneræmondæ dominus” granted property "in parochia de Calkene…de Laerne…[et] de Masseme" to "domino Gilberto de Sottenghem" for his marriage to "Machtildis sororis meæ" by charter dated Mar 1228, witnessed by "Michael Flandrie constabularius, Walterus de Ghistelle"[316].  "Hugo castellanus Gandensis" confirmed the donation to the abbey of Byloka made by "Giselbertus de Sottenghem miles" with the consent of "Mathildis uxoris suæ" by charter dated May 1230[317].  “Machtildis domina de Rasseghem” donated property to the church of Dendermonde for her anniversary and that of "Gilberti mariti mei bonæ memoriæ", with the consent of "filii mei senioris Gerardi", by charter dated Apr 1243[318].  “Nobilis mulier domina de Rassenghem Machtildis, filius suus Gerardus de Sottenghem dominus de Rassenghem, frater suus dominus Robertus, soror prædictorum nobilium domicella de Rassenghem Machtildis…” witnessed the charter dated Mar 1245 under which "Margareta nobilis mulier domina de Woume" donated property to Dendermonde church for the soul of “Ioannis bonæ memoriæ...filii mei[319].  “Gerardus de Sottenghem dominus de Rassenghem” confirmed the donation by "domina de Rassenghem mater nostra" to the church of Dender monde for her anniversary and that of "Gilberti mariti sui bonæ memoriæ…quondam patris nostri" by charter dated Apr 1246[320]m (Mar 1228) GILBERT van Zotteghem, son of GERARD van Zotteghem & his wife Beatrix Vrouw van Massemen en Laarne (-before Apr 1243). 

f)          ANSELME de Béthune (-after 1216).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "les dues freres Ansiel et Bauduin de Biethune" at the siege of Farnham in 1216[321]

g)         GUILLAUME de Béthune (-12 Jan 1243).  "Dominus Robertus, Wilhelmus, Joannes de Bethunia, fratres Danielis tunc temporis domini Bethuniensis, Atrebatensis advocati, et Amalricus de Fontenella, milites, Beatridis comitissa de Gisnes, et Katarina sorores" witnessed the charter dated Nov 1220 under which "Mathildis de Housdaing…domina de Chockes" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques[322].  "Willelmus de Bethunia et uxor eius Elisabeth de Ponte Roardi" donated property to the abbey of Ravensberghe by charter dated early Dec 1228[323].  Heer van Molembeek. 

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h)         JEAN de Béthune (-before 1240).  "Dominus Robertus, Wilhelmus, Joannes de Bethunia, fratres Danielis tunc temporis domini Bethuniensis, Atrebatensis advocati, et Amalricus de Fontenella, milites, Beatridis comitissa de Gisnes, et Katarina sorores" witnessed the charter dated Nov 1220 under which "Mathildis de Housdaing…domina de Chockes" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques[324]m (1231) as her second husband, ELISABETH de Saint-Pol, widow of GAUCHER [III] de Châtillon Comte de Saint-Pol, daughter of HUGUES [IV] "Candavène" Comte de Saint-Pol & his wife Yolande de Hainaut (-before 1240).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ysabellam uxorem comitis Galtheri de Castellione, qui per uxorem factus est comes de Sancto Paulo, et Eustaciam uxorem Iohannis de Nigella" as children of "comiti Hugoni de Sancto Paulo" & his wife[325].  Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [2/30] Apr 1233 under which her son “Hugo comes Sancti Pauli” did homage to Louis IX King of France for the lands of “mater mea I. comitissa Sancti Pauli et Johannes de Bethunia, qui dicebatur eius maritus[326], although the last phrase suggests doubt about whether the couple was actually married. 

i)          MARIE de Béthune (-15 May ----).  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “Id Mai” of “Mariæ puellæ Matildis advocatissæ[327]

4.         CLEMENCE de Béthune (-19 Sep, after 1178).  “Clementiæ dominæ de Chokes, matri Roberti advocati de Bethunia” donated “terram…Mansus” to "abbas S. Johannis de Chokes", with the consent of "filio eius Roberto Betuniensi advocato et uxore eius Adelide et filiis eius Roberto, Baldewyno, Willermo et filia eius Clementia"[328].  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that Baudouin, son of "Broburgensi castellano Henrico, Deinardi filio" and his wife Beatrix, married "Elizabeth filiam advocati Roberti de Bethunia" but died childless[329].  The correct name of Baudouin’s wife is recorded in another document: “Balduini castellani de Broburc...cum uxore sua Clementia” donated “terram trans portum...Graueninga...” to Clermarest abbey by undated charter[330]Bauduin châtelain de Bourbourg” confirmed the donation to the hospital of Saint-Nicholas near Bourbourg made by “feu Henri son père” by charter dated 22 Apr 1178, witnessed by “Clémence sa femme, Wautier son frère…[331]The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “XIII Kal Oct” of “Clementiæ filiæ Roberti advocati[332]m BAUDOUIN de Bourbourg, son of HENRI Châtelain de Bourbourg & his second wife Beatrix van Aalst (-after 22 Apr 1178, bur Bourbourg Sainte-Marie). 

5.         BAUDOUIN de Béthune (-Burstwick, Holderness 13 or 14 Oct 1212, bur Abbey of Meaux[333]).  "Robertus de Betunia, Atrebatensis advocatus…advocatus de Warneston et Adhelis uxor mea et filii mei Robertus, Willelmus, Balduinus" confirmed the possessions of Warneton abbey by charter dated 1177[334].  "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti…Willermi, Baldevini, Cononis", for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum", by charter dated 1182[335].  “Robertus de Betuna advocatus Atrebati” donated “terram meam de Messewalla”, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willielmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononi", to Faversham Abbey, Kent by undated charter, dated to the reign of Henry II King of England[336].  "Robertus de Bethunia Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the church at Béthune by undated charter, dated to [1190], witnessed by "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willelmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononis"[337].  Seigneur de Choques [en-Artois].  The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Baldewinus de Betun" among those granted delay in payment "per brevis" in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire[338].  He succeeded as Comte d'Aumâle in [1195/96], de iure uxoris.  The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “III Id Oct” of “Baldevinus comes Albamalliæ filius Roberti Rufi advocati[339].  The necrology of Choques records the death “Prid Id Oct” of “Balduinus de Bethunia comes Albamarlæ[340]

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6.         JEAN de Béthune (-24 Jul 1219).  “Robertus de Betuna advocatus Atrebati” donated “terram meam de Messewalla”, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willielmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononi", to Faversham Abbey, Kent by undated charter, dated to the reign of Henry II King of England[341].  "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti…Willermi, Baldevini, Cononis", for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum", by charter dated 1182[342].  "Robertus de Bethunia Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the church at Béthune by undated charter, dated to [1190], witnessed by "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willelmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononis"[343].  Provost of Douai.  Bishop of Cambrai 1200.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1200 that "Iohannes de Bethunia" succeeded “magistrum Petrum de Corbuilh” as bishop of Cambrai[344].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre records that "Jehans…fils Robert d’avoé de Biethune et freres l’avoé Guillaume" was bishop of Cambrai at the end of the 12th century[345].  The necrology of Cambrai records the death “IX Kal Aug” of “Iohannes de Bethunia...Cameracensis episcopus[346].  Jean had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress: 

a)         [SIMONE] (-after Mar 1250).  The testament of "Mahaut feme au…Guion comte de Flandre et dame de Béthune", dated Mar 1250, bequeathed property to "…Simmain le Béghine qui fut fille monseingneur Jehan de Béthune…"[347]

7.         CONAN de Béthune (-17 Dec [Dec 1212/1223]).  Robertus de Betuna advocatus Atrebati” donated “terram meam de Messewalla”, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willielmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononi", to Faversham Abbey, Kent by undated charter, dated to the reign of Henry II King of England[348].  [Rikildis Aldenardensis domina” donated revenue from “villam...Leseines” to Eename abbey, for the soul of “Gilliberti domini et mariti mei”, by charter dated 1176, witnessed by “...Libbo d’Aldenardo, Alardus de Mercka, et tres cognati mei de Betuna, Roberto, Willelmo, Conrado[349].  It is assumed that “Conrado” was a variation of Conan, to whom this reference probably refers.  No other reference has been found to another son called Conrad.]  "Robertus de Betunia…Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti…Willermi, Baldevini, Cononis", for the souls of "patris et matris et uxoris meæ, et sororis meæ, et filiorum meorum", by charter dated 1182[350].  "Robertus de Bethunia Atrebatensis advocatus" donated property to the church at Béthune by undated charter, dated to [1190], witnessed by "filiorum meorum Roberti, Willelmi, Balduini, Johannis, Cononis"[351].  "…Willelmi Bethunæ advocati, Cononis eius fratris…" signed the charter dated Apr 1201 under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders donated property to several monasteries before leaving for Jerusalem[352].  “Cono de Bethunia” sold “frumenti...apud Bruacum” to Béthune Saint-Barthélemy, with the consent of “Willelmi fratris mei”, by charter dated 1202[353].  “Balduinus...imperator...Romanie...Flandrie et Hainonie comes” notified “avunculo suo Gerardo Brugensium preposito ac Flandrie cancellario et...Willelmo castellano Sancti Audomari et Gilleberto Insulensis, baillivis suis de Flandrie” that he had granted land to “Waltero clerico...de Curtraco” at the request of “Robertus de Sperleka” by charter dated Feb 1204 “in palacio nostro Blakerne”, witnessed by “homines mei de Flandria:...Gislebertus de Ipra, Robelote de Waverin...homines nostri de Romania...Cono de Betunia fidelis et consanguineus noster, Gulfridus marescallus Campanie, Milo de Brebant, Manesulus de Insula[354].  The Chronicle of Jacques de Guise records that “Guillaume le Roux de Bethune, Quenon et Barthelemy ses freres” accompanied “Monseigneur Baudouin de Haynnau et de Flandres” to Constantinople[355].  “Balduinus...imperator...Romanie...Flandrie et Hainonie comes” notified “avunculo suo Gerardo Brugensium preposito ac Flandrie cancellario et...Willelmo castellano Sancti Audomari et Gilleberto Insulensis, baillivis suis de Flandrie” that he had granted land to “Waltero clerico...de Curtraco” at the request of “Robertus de Sperleka” by charter dated Feb 1204 [O.S.] in palacio nostro Blakerne”, witnessed by “homines mei de Flandria:...Gislebertus de Ipra, Robelote de Waverin...homines nostri de Romania...Cono de Betunia fidelis et consanguineus noster, Gulfridus marescallus Campanie, Milo de Brebant, Manesulus de Insula[356]Conon de Béthune proto camerier de Rome” granted harvest from “la terre de Hauchort” to “Siger” by charter dated Dec 1212[357]The necrology of Béthune Saint-Barthélemy records the death “XVI Kal Jan” of “Cono de Bethunia” and his donation[358].  “Robertus de Betune baillivus et heres patrui mei Cononis” settled a dispute between Dunes abbey and “Iordanum de Werbe et Ioannem...” by charter dated 1223[359]m ---.  The name of Conan’s wife is not known.  Conan & his wife had [four] children: 

a)         [CONAN de Béthune (-after 1238).  Du Chesne states that Conan and Baudouin were the sons of Conon de Béthune[360].  In the case of Conan, he quotes the Histoire de Philippe Mousque which records in 1238 “Car li vious Quenes estoit mors, Et li iouenes Quenes li Fors[361].  However, in a charter dated 1223 Conan’s nephew Robert de Béthune describes himself as “Robertus de Betune baillivus et heres patrui mei Cononis[362].  Du Chesne suggests that this document indicates that Robert was guardian of Conan’s children.  However, this assessment appears incompatible with Robert being described as “heres” of his uncle.  There must remain some doubt about the existence of these two supposed sons of Conan de Béthune.] 

b)         [BAUDOUIN de Béthune (-30 Jul ----).  Du Chesne states that Conan and Baudouin were the sons of Conon de Béthune[363].  In the case of Baudouin, he quotes the necrology of Choques which records the death “III Kal Aug” of “Balduinus Bethuniensis rex Andronopoli[364]. However, in a charter dated 1223 Conan’s nephew Robert de Béthune describes himself as “Robertus de Betune baillivus et heres patrui mei Cononis[365].  Du Chesne suggests that this document indicates that Robert was guardian of Conan’s children.  However, this assessment appears incompatible with Robert being described as “heres” of his uncle.  There must remain some doubt about the existence of these two supposed sons of Conan de Béthune.] 

c)         RICHILDE de Béthune (-after 1201).  Conon de Béthune” granted “son pré d’Anezin” to “Ricalde sa fille” and a sum of money to “Ælide sa fille mineur” by charter dated 1201[366]

d)         ALIDE de Béthune (-after 1201).  Conon de Béthune” granted “son pré d’Anezin” to “Ricalde sa fille” and a sum of money to “Ælide sa fille mineur” by charter dated 1201[367]

8.         ANSELME de Béthune .  “Willelmus Attrebatensis advocatus Bethuniæ et Thenremundiæ dominus et Mathildis uxor mea” donated property to Clermarest abbey, for the souls of “Roberti advocati et Adelidis matris meæ, Roberti fratris mei et Walteri de Thenremunda”, by undated charter witnessed by “Anselmus frater meus...Sigerus castellanus de Gant, Sigerus et Daniel filii eius...[368]

9.         BARTHELEMY de Béthune (-after 1204).  The Chronicle of Jacques de Guise records that “Guillaume le Roux de Bethune, Quenon et Barthelemy ses freres” accompanied “Monseigneur Baudouin de Haynnau et de Flandres” to Constantinople[369]

10.      MATHILDE de Béthune (-7 Dec 1220).  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that Gauthier, son of "Broburgensi castellano Henrico, Deinardi filio" and his wife Beatrix married "advocati Roberti de Bethunia filiam Mathildem sororem Elizabeth"[370].  Her parentage and first marriage are also indicated by the 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre which records that "Robiers de Biethune" captured "Gisnes el castiel" and "la contesse…sa cousine germaine" (who was Mathilde’s daughter), dated to [1214] from the context[371].  “Matildis de Hosdagnio et Balduinus de Cominis maritus meus” and “Danielem advocatum Attrebatensem et dominum Bethuniensem” divided “terra de Chockes” between them, inherited from “Aelide filia Balduini quondam comitis de Aubeni”, by charter dated Jan 1216 (O.S.), with the seal of “Mathildis domine de Hosden et castellanee de Broburg” attached[372].  Baudouin "Dominus Robertus, Wilhelmus, Joannes de Bethunia, fratres Danielis tunc temporis domini Bethuniensis, Atrebatensis advocati, et Amalricus de Fontenella, milites, Beatridis comitissa de Gisnes, et Katarina sorores" witnessed the charter dated Nov 1220 under which "Mathildis de Housdaing…domina de Chockes" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques[373].  "Beatrix comitissa de Gisnes et castellana de Bourbourch" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, for the souls of "patris mei Walteri castellani de Bourbourch et matris meæ Mathildis de Bethunia dominæ de Chokes et Arnoldi comitis Gisnensis mariti mei et fratris mei Henrici castellani de Bourbourch", by charter dated 12 May 1221[374].  The necrology of Choques records the death “VII Id Dec” of “Mathildis de Bethunia domina de Choques, mater Beatricis comitissæ de Gisnes” and her donation of “vivarium de Pugnoia[375].  “Daniel advocatus Attrebatensis et dominus Betuniæ” confirmed that “Ioannes de Calceia et Aelidis uxor eius et Hugo eorum primogenitus” confirmed the donation to Choques abbey made by “Matildis de Husdaing domina de Chockes in plena vita sua” by charter dated Nov 1224[376]m firstly GAUTHIER de Bourbourg, son of HENRI Châtelain de Bourbourg & his second wife Beatrix van Aalst.  m secondly HUGUES de Houdain, son of EUSTACHE de Houdain Seigneur de Choques & his wife ---.  m thirdly as his second wife, BAUDOUIN [II] de Comines, son of --- (-1219). 

 

 

GUILLAUME de Béthune, son of GUILLAUME [III] de Béthune & his wife Mathilde van Dendermonde (-12 Jan 1243).  "Willelmus de Bethunia et uxor eius Elisabeth de Ponte Roardi" donated property to the abbey of Ravensberghe by charter dated early Dec 1228[377].  Heer van Molembeek.  "Williermus de Bethunia dominus de Molembeka et Elisabeth domina de Ponte-Rohardi uxor mea" founded the abbey of Pont-Rohard, with the consent of "Ægidii filii nostri primogeniti", by charter dated Apr 1240[378].  “Willaumes de Bethune li sires de Pont-Rohart” acknowledged a debt to “Boidin de Castel”, with “Willaumes de Betune li filz monsignor Willaume devant dit et Beatris li dimiselle de Herbusterne se feme” also accepting the obligation, by charter dated Jun 1240[379].  The necrology of Pont-Rohard records the death "II Id Jan" in 1243 of "Wilelmi de Bethunia quondam domini de Ponte-Rohardi nec non…uxoris suæ, fundatorum ecclesiæ"[380]

m ELISABETH Dame de Pont-Rohard, daughter of --- (-19 Jan ----).  "Willelmus de Bethunia et uxor eius Elisabeth de Ponte Roardi" donated property to the abbey of Ravensberghe by charter dated early Dec 1228[381].  "Williermus de Bethunia dominus de Molembeka et Elisabeth domina de Ponte-Rohardi uxor mea" founded the abbey of Pont-Rohard, with the consent of "Ægidii filii nostri primogeniti", by charter dated Apr 1240[382].  The necrology of Pont-Rohard records the death "XIV Kal Feb" of "Elisabeth dominæ de Ponte-Rohardi"[383]

Guillaume & his wife had four children: 

1.         GILLES de Béthune (-after Jan 1247).  "Williermus de Bethunia dominus de Molembeka et Elisabeth domina de Ponte-Rohardi uxor mea" founded the abbey of Pont-Rohard, with the consent of "Ægidii filii nostri primogeniti", by charter dated Apr 1240[384].  "Ægidius de Bethunia dominus de Molembeka, Elisabeth uxor mea" donated property to the abbey of Pont-Rohard, for the soul of "Williermi de Bethunia patris mei", by charter dated Mar 1243[385]Egidius de Bethunia miles dominus de Moulenbecha...et Ysabella uxor mea” approved the sale of property to Tournai Saint-Martin by “Eustatio de le Mandre” by charter dated May 1245[386]Robertus advocatus Bethuniensis” confirmed a donation to Einham made by “Alissa de Rosabeka relicta quondam Balduini” of land held from “Egidii de Bitunia domini de Mulenbecka...consanguineus meus” by charter dated Jan 1247[387]m ELISABETH, daughter of --- (-after May 1245).  "Ægidius de Bethunia dominus de Molembeka, Elisabeth uxor mea" donated property to the abbey of Pont-Rohard, for the soul of "Williermi de Bethunia patris mei", by charter dated Mar 1243[388]Egidius de Bethunia miles dominus de Moulenbecha...et Ysabella uxor mea” approved the sale of property to Tournai Saint-Martin by “Eustatio de le Mandre” by charter dated May 1245[389]

2.         GUILLAUME [II] de Béthune (-1255).  Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne.  Willaumes de Bethune li sires de Pont-Rohart” acknowledged a debt to “Boidin de Castel”, with “Willaumes de Betune li filz monsignor Willaume devant dit et Beatris li dimiselle de Herbusterne se feme” also accepting the obligation, by charter dated Jun 1240[390].  “Sires Willaumes de Bethune li Sires de Pont-Rohart...Willaumes de Betune li filz monsignor Willaume devant dit et Beatris li Dimiselle de Herbusterne se feme” acknowledged a debt by charter dated Jun 1240[391]m (before Jun 1240) BEATRIX de Herbuterne, daughter of ---.  “Willaumes de Bethune li sires de Pont-Rohart” acknowledged a debt to “Boidin de Castel”, with “Willaumes de Betune li filz monsignor Willaume devant dit et Beatris li dimiselle de Herbusterne se feme” also accepting the obligation, by charter dated Jun 1240[392].  “Sires Willaumes de Bethune li Sires de Pont-Rohart...Willaumes de Betune li filz monsignor Willaume devant dit et Beatris li Dimiselle de Herbusterne se feme” acknowledged a debt by charter dated Jun 1240[393].  Guillaume [II] & his wife had one child: 

a)         GUILLAUME [III] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne.  m JEANNE de Nesle, daughter of JEAN [I] de Nesle Seigneur de Falvy et de La Hérelle Comte de Ponthieu & his first wife Beatrix --- (-29 Oct 1280, bur Dunes).  An epitaph at Dunes records the death “IV Kal Nov” 1280 of “Iohanna filia comitis de Pontiu uxor Willelmi de Betunia militis domini de Lokerna et de ---[394].  Guillaume [III] & his wife had one child: 

i)          GUILLAUME [IV] de Béthune (-3 Apr, after 1310)Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne.  The necrology of Soissons Notre-Dame records the death “III Non Apr” of “Guillelmus de Bethune miles senior de Locres[395]m MARIE de Roye Dame de Vendeuil, daughter of MATHIEU [II] de Roye Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu & his wife Jeanne de Vendeuil.  A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem[396]Dame de Vendeuil.  A charter dated May 1324 named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary[397]Guillaume [IV] & his wife had two children: 

(a)       MATHIEU de Béthune (-[1347/Dec 1348]).  Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne.  A registre des arrêts du parlement records a dispute dated 1341 between “Matheum de Bethunia dominum de Loques” and “Margaretam de Pinconio domicellam de Feritate[398]Philippe VI King of France granted property to “chevalier Mahieu sire de Loques” by charter dated Apr 1347[399].  He is named as deceased in the 29 Dec 1348 document cited below.  m ---.  The name of Mathieu’s wife is not known.  Mathieu & his wife had three children: 

(1)       MARIE de Béthune (-1380).  Dame de Locres et de Herbuterne.  Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[400].  A registre des arrêts du parlement includes a document dated 29 Dec 1348 concerning the dispute between “defunctum Matheum de Bethunia dominum de Loques militem” and “Margaretam de Pinconio domicellam de Feritate in Pontivo”, naming “Maria domicella de Loques filia et heres dicti defuncti militis[401].  A register of parliamentary judgments dated 1350 names “Walterus de Hondecote scutifer maritus Mariæ domicellæ de Loques filiæ et heredis defuncti Matheir de Bethunia domini de Loques[402]The obituary of Maldegem records the deaths of “heer Philips van Maldeghem...sone van Mer Philips van Maldeghem die verslegen was te Lyons...vrauwen Sibelien van Borsele syns eerste wyfes, ende vrouwe Marien van Bethune zyns anders wyfs” and donations[403]m firstly ([29 Dec 1348/1350]) as his first wife, GAUTHIER Seigneur de Hondschote, son of --- (-after 1352).  m secondly as his second wife, FILIP [V] Heer van Maldegem, son of FILIP [IV] Heer van Maldegem & his second wife Yolande de Mortagne (-14 Aug 1374, bur Maldegem). 

(2)       ISABELLE de Béthune (-after 1386).  m JEAN Blondel Seigneur de Méry, son of --- (-after 1386). 

(3)       JEANNE de Béthune (-2 Nov 1385).  Nun at Soissons Notre-Dame. 

(b)       JEAN de Béthune (-Jan 1373).  Seigneur de Vendeuil. 

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3.         MATHILDE de Béthune (-29 Dec after 1267).  Heiress of Molembeek, Pont-Rohart.  A charter dated Feb 1242 records that Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et Pierre de Boueli chevalier son frère” had sold “leur ville de Combles” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and that “Mahaut femme du châtelain de Lille” had renounced her claim to dower over the town[404].  “Robert de Wavring sénéchal de Flandre” declared having paid “la dette du châtelain”, with the consent of “Mahaut sa femme veuve de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et des enfans de ladite Mahaut”, by charter dated 1245[405]Iehans castellains de Lille chevaliers...et Mehaus me feme” donated property “fief...[de] me...mere Mehaus feme monseigneur Robiert de Varwin le senescal de Flandres” to Marciennes by charter dated Mar 1267[406].  The necrology of Pontrohart abbey records the death “IV Kal Jan” of “Mathildis castellanæ Insulensis dominæ Ponterohardi et de Molembeka...filiæ...Willermi de Bethunia domini de Ponterohardi, necnon eiusdem uxoris...Elizabeth dominæ de Ponterohardi fundatorum ecclesiæ nostræ” and the donation made by “Rogerii filii sui militis domini de Ponterohardi[407]m firstly JEAN [II] Châtelain de Lille et de Péronne, son of --- Châtelain de Péronne & his wife [Elisabeth] de Lille (-17 Nov 1244).  m secondly ([Dec 1244/1245]) as his second wife, ROBERT de Wavrin Sénéchal de Flandre, son of HELIE [IV] de Wavrin & his wife Isabelle de Montmirail (-[1273])

4.         JEANNE de Béthune .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “Evrardi domini de Mortania filii de secundis nuptiis, Rodulphus primogenitus” married “filiam domini Guilelmi de Betunia domini de Pontroart Joannam” by whom he had "filios...et filias"[408]m EVERARD Radoul de Mortagne Heer van Nevele, son of EVERARD [IV] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai & his second wife Elisabeth van Nevele (-1276 or after). 

 

 

The following reconstruction of later generations of this family is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking to other families studied in Medieval Lands.  The information has not been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated. 

 

JEAN de Béthune, son of GUILLAUME [IV] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne (-Jan 1373).  Seigneur de Vendeuil. 

m (1351) JEANNE de Coucy, daughter of ENGUERRAND de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Condé & his first wife Maria von Vianden (-Jan 1363).  A manuscript which records properties of [her husband] lists her properties “le quart de la terre de Condé en Brie...la terre d’Autresche...les bois de Hauraincourt...la terre des Cornés...la terre de Bussu et du Vergie[409]A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints” who had nine children “in brevi tempore”, that in 1373 his father died leaving two sons and two daughters one of whom married “messire I. de Roye[410].  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that of their nine sons Robert was the oldest and Jean the seventh[411]

Jean & his wife had nine children: 

1.         ROBERT de Béthune (-Feb 1408).  The testament of [her husband] required “Robers et Jehanins mes deux fils” to provide for “mes filles leurs suers”, granted “la terre de Lifontaine et la terre de Rumigny” to “ce Jehannin mon filz[412].  “Pierre de la Ferté-Bernard, Jeanne de Châtillon, Jean de Craon vidame de Laonnais et Marie sa femme” and “Robert et Jean de Béthune” reached agreement about “l’héritage de Coucy” by charter dated 8 Jul 1389[413].  He succeeded his maternal first cousin in 1371 as Vicomte de Meaux.  He succeeded his father in 1373 as Seigneur de Vendeuil.  A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints”, that he inherited his mother’s possessions after she died and that in 1368 his father gave him “Vendueil à son mariage avec la fille du Comte de Porcien[414].  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that of their nine children Robert was the oldest and Jean the seventh[415]m firstly (1368) JEANNE de Châtillon Dame de Chaumont en Porcien, daughter of [JEAN [I] de Châtillon Comte de Porcien] & [his first wife Jeanne d’Aspremont/second wife Jacqueline de Dammartin Dame de Beaumont-le-Bois]] (-1371, bur Orcamp).  Père Anselme records that “Jeanne de Chastillon”, daughter of Gauthier [VII] de Châtillon Comte de Porcien, married as his first wife “Jean de Béthune seigneur de Vendeuil vicomte de Meaux”, without citing the source on which he bases this information[416].  The following document confirms that her father was an unnamed Comte de Porcien: a parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints”, that he inherited his mother’s possessions after she died and that in 1368 his father gave him “Vendueil à son mariage avec la fille du Comte de Porcien[417].  Considering the date of the marriage of Gaucher [VII], as well as the date of her own marriage, it is more likely that Jeanne was the daughter of Jean [I] de Châtillon.  m secondly (after 1371) JEANNE de Barbançon, daughter of JEAN [III] Seigneur de Barbançon & his wife Yolande de Lens (-after Oct 1387, bur Orcamp).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by letters dated Oct 1387 in which [her husband] “Robert de Bethune Vicomte de Miaulx et Sires de Venduel Chevaliers” and “Iehans de Ligne Escuyers, qui avoient deux seurs espousées filles de...Iehan Seigneur de Barbenchon et...Yolens de Lens sa...compaigne” agreed the succession of “feu...Michel iadis Signeur de Ligne et...Alienor de Couchy Dame de Ligne et Vicontesse de Miaux[418]m thirdly ISABELLE van Gistel, daughter of JAN [VI] Heer van Gistel & his first wife Margareta van Reigaarsvliet (-after 18 Jan 1438, bur Gistel Notre-Dame).  “Isabella dame van Gistel, Vendeuil en Ingelmunster, dame de Meaux” divided territories, inherited from “notre...pere monseigneur Jehan seigneur de Guistelle et d’Anglemoustier, messire Loys de Guistelle notre frere et messire Guy de Guistelle notre oncle”, between “haar kinderen Jeanne de Bethune (gehuwd met Jan van Luxembourg) en Jacqueline de Bethune (gehuwd met Arnoul d’Ailly)” by charter dated 26 Feb 1423 (N.S.)[419]A document dated 1435 records “Ysabeele vrauwe van Ghistele, van Inghelmuestre, van Vendeuil ende vicontesse van Meaulx” holding fiefs from Bruges[420].  The testament of “Ysabeau dame de Ghistelle, de Venduel, d’Englemonstier et vicontesse de Meaulx”, dated 18 Jan 1438, requested burial “en l’église de Notre Dame de Ghistelle”, bequeathed property to “sa fille la comtesse de Liney...les chastel et terre de Ghistelle...son beau-fils...le Comte de Liney...Margot de Picquegni...en avancement et au traité de son mariage...au Vidame d’Amiens et à sa fille la Vidamesse...Ysabelet fille dudit Vidame...Annette fille dudit Vidame...Percheval bastard de Ghistelle...Absalon bastard de Ghistelle...Salehadin bastard de Ghistelle...Lunequin bastarde de Ghistelle...Margotine sa seur bastarde”, and appointed “son...nepueu le Seigneur de Crequy et ses...cousins Messire Guillaume de Halwin et Messire Jaques de Lievin chevaliers” as executors[421].  Grootjans-Hulpiau records that Isabelle “des grooten heeren van Ghistelles dochtere”, widow of Robert de Béthune, died “dans le voyage d’Italie qu’elle avait entrepris pour se rendre à Rome[422].  An epitaph at Gistel records “Mevr. Isabelle vr. van Ghistelle ux. mer. Robrecht van Bethune Burchgrave van Meaux[423].  She is named as deceased in a charter dated 24 Oct 1446[424]Robert & his first wife had one child: 

a)         ISABELLE de Béthune (-before 1382). 

Robert & his third wife had two children: 

b)         JEANNE de Béthune (-end 1450)"Monsieur Iean de Luxembourg seigneur de Beaurevoir" agreed "en faveur du mariage qui se consommera de luy et de madame Ieanne de Bethune comtesse de Marle veuve de monsieur Robert de Bar comte de Bar" the dower should he predecease his wife by charter dated 23 Nov 1418[425]Isabella dame van Gistel, Vendeuil en Ingelmunster, dame de Meaux” divided territories, inherited from “notre...pere monseigneur Jehan seigneur de Guistelle et d’Anglemoustier, messire Loys de Guistelle notre frere et messire Guy de Guistelle notre oncle”, between “haar kinderen Jeanne de Bethune (gehuwd met Jan van Luxembourg) en Jacqueline de Bethune (gehuwd met Arnoul d’Ailly)” by charter dated 26 Feb 1423 (N.S.)[426]The testament of “Ysabeau dame de Ghistelle, de Venduel, d’Englemonstier et vicontesse de Meaulx”, dated 18 Jan 1438, bequeathed property to “sa fille la comtesse de Liney...les chastel et terre de Ghistelle...son beau-fils...le Comte de Liney...[427]Vicomtesse de MeauxDame de Vendeuil, de Condé-en-Brie, de Ghistelles, de Falvy et de Rumpstm firstly (contract 16 Feb 1409) ROBERT de Bar, son of HENRI de Bar & his wife Marie de Coucy ([1390]-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415).  He was created Comte de Marle, Comte de Soissons et Seigneur d'Oisy in France Aug 1413.  m secondly (contract 23 Nov 1418) JEAN [III] de Luxembourg Comte de Ligny et de Guise, son of JEAN de Luxembourg Seigneur de Beauvoir et de Richebourg & his wife Marguerite d’Enghien Ctss di Conversano et de Brienne, dame d'Enghien (1392-Guise 5 Jan 1441, bur Notre-Dame de Cambrai). 

c)         JACQUELINE de Béthune Isabella dame van Gistel, Vendeuil en Ingelmunster, dame de Meaux” divided territories, inherited from “notre...pere monseigneur Jehan seigneur de Guistelle et d’Anglemoustier, messire Loys de Guistelle notre frere et messire Guy de Guistelle notre oncle”, between “haar kinderen Jeanne de Bethune (gehuwd met Jan van Luxembourg) en Jacqueline de Bethune (gehuwd met Arnoul d’Ailly)” by charter dated 26 Feb 1423 (N.S.)[428]The testament of “Ysabeau dame de Ghistelle, de Venduel, d’Englemonstier et vicontesse de Meaulx”, dated 18 Jan 1438, bequeathed property to “...Margot de Picquegni...en avancement et au traité de son mariage...au Vidame d’Amiens et à sa fille la Vidamesse...Ysabelet fille dudit Vidame...Annette fille dudit Vidame...[429]m (contract 13 Nov 1413) RAOUL d’Ailly Seigneur de Raineval et de Varennes, son of BAUDOUIN d’Ailly Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Jeanne de Raineval (-1463). 

2.         five children .  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that of their nine children Robert was the oldest and Jean the seventh[430]

3.         JEAN de Béthune (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415)Pierre de la Ferté-Bernard, Jeanne de Châtillon, Jean de Craon vidame de Laonnais et Marie sa femme” and “Robert et Jean de Béthune” reached agreement about “l’héritage de Coucy” by charter dated 8 Jul 1389[431].  The testament of his father required “Robers et Jehanins mes deux fils” to provide for “mes filles leurs suers”, granted “la terre de Lifontaine et la terre de Rumigny” to “ce Jehannin mon filz[432]A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints[433]Seigneur de Locres et de Mareuil.  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that of their nine children Robert was the oldest and Jean the seventh[434]Seigneur d’Autrèche, de Baye.  m (contract 8 Nov 1401) as her second husband, ISABELLE d’Estouteville, widow of GAUTHIER de Vienne Seigneur de Mirebel, daughter of ROBERT [IX] Seigneur d’Estouteville & his wife Marguerite de Montmorency (-after 28 Oct 1438).  She married thirdly (after 1415) as his second wife, Henri [III] Seigneur de Hans.  Her parentage and second marriage are confirmed by the following document: [her son] Robert de Bethune chevalier seigneur de Marueil en Brie, d’Hostel et de Baye” and “madame Isabel de Bethune sa seur femme...de...Iacques seigneur de Hans et des Armoises chevalier” agreed the succession of “monseigneur Iehan de Bethune chevalier iadis seigneur desdits lieux...et madame Isabel d’Estouteville leurs pere et mere”, noting property inherited from “feuë madame Marguerite de Montmorency dame d’Estouteville” by “ladite madame Isabel d’Estouteville sa fille...”, by charter dated 29 May 1441[435]Jean & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT de Béthune (-[1471/31 May 1476]).  Seigneur de Mareuil.  Robert de Bethune chevalier seigneur de Marueil en Brie, d’Hostel et de Baye” and “madame Isabel de Bethune sa seur femme...de...Iacques seigneur de Hans et des Armoises chevalier” agreed the succession of “monseigneur Iehan de Bethune chevalier iadis seigneur desdits lieux...et madame Isabel d’Estouteville leurs pere et mere”, noting property inherited from “feuë madame Marguerite de Montmorency dame d’Estouteville” by “ladite madame Isabel d’Estouteville sa fille...”, by charter dated 29 May 1441[436]m (contract 22 Jan [1451]) MICHELLE d’Estouteville, daughter of GUILLAUME d’Estouteville Seigneur de Torcy, de Blainville et de Beine & his wife Jeanne Dame de Doudeauville [Bois/Fiennes] (-[31 May 1476/1480]).  The marriage contract between Monseigneyr Jehan d’Estouteville chevalier Seigneur de Torcy et de Bleinville…Michielle d’Estouteville fille de feu…Guillaume d’Estouteville en son vivant chevalier Seigneur dudit Torcy et de…Jehanne de Doudeauville iadis sa femme, et seur dudit…Jehan…” and “Robert de Bethune chevalier Seigneur de Mareuil en Brie, de Baye et d’Ostel…” is dated 22 Jan 1450 (O.S.?), in the presence of “Monseigneur Estoud d’Estouteville chevalier Seigneur de Beaumont et Chastellain de Beauvais et…Robert d’Estouteville chevalier Seigneur de Beyne Baron d’Yvry…freres dudit…Jehan…et de ladite…Michielle[437]The date of her marriage contract is late considering her mention in 1420.  Maybe the earlier Michelle died and was replaced by another daughter born after 1420 who was given the same name.  A charter of Andecies abbey near Baye dated 31 May 1476 names defunctus Robertus de Bethuna dominus de Baye, domina Michaela d’Estouteville eius relicta, ballum liberorum suorum, et Ioannes de Bethuna filius eius primogenitus[438]Europäische Stammtafeln records her death before 1480[439].  Robert & his wife had children: 

i)          JEAN de Béthune (-1512).  A charter of Andecies abbey near Baye dated 31 May 1476 names defunctus Robertus de Bethuna dominus de Baye, domina Michaela d’Estouteville eius relicta, ballum liberorum suorum, et Ioannes de Bethuna filius eius primogenitus[440]Seigneur de Mareuil.  m ([1480]) JEANNE d’Anglure, daughter of SIMON d’Anglure Seigneur d’Estauges & his wife Jeanne de Neufchâtel Vicomtesse de Bleigny.  Jean & his wife had children: 

(1)       ALPIN de Béthune (-before 16 Sep 1546)Seigneur de Mareuil.  

-         see below

(2)       ROBERT de Béthune (-killed in battle 1525, bur Montvilliers near Saverne).  Seigneur d’Hostel et de Treny, Vicomte de Chavignon.  

-         SEIGNEURS d’HOSTEL[441]

b)         ISABELLE de Béthune (-[before 28] Aug [after Aug 1480], bur Ecry Saint-Didier)Robert de Bethune chevalier seigneur de Marueil en Brie, d’Hostel et de Baye” and “madame Isabel de Bethune sa seur femme...de...Iacques seigneur de Hans et des Armoises chevalier” agreed the succession of “monseigneur Iehan de Bethune chevalier iadis seigneur desdits lieux...et madame Isabel d’Estouteville leurs pere et mere”, noting property inherited from “feuë madame Marguerite de Montmorency dame d’Estouteville” by “ladite madame Isabel d’Estouteville sa fille...”, by charter dated 29 May 1441[442].  An epitaph at Escry Saint-Didier records the burial of “Isabel de Bethune dame de Hans, des Armoises et d’Escry” 28 Aug 1453 [year incorrect][443].  She is named in her son’s Aug 1480 charter in which he acted as her proxy.  m JACQUES Seigneur de Hans, son of HENRI [III] Seigneur de Hans & his first wife Agnes de Lor (-[5 Sep 1465/26 Jun 1478]). 

4.         MARIE de Béthune (-after 31 Jul 1400).  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that they left two daughters of whom “una Maria et altera Ioanna”, Marie marrying “defuncto Eustachio domino de Voudenayo[444].  Père Anselme records that Jean de Nesle [Clermont] succeeded “Eustache de Voudenay son beau-frère, mort en Barbarie sans enfans en 1392” in his wife’s name, which resulted in a lawsuit with “Marie de Bethune veuve de ce seigneur” which ended by agreement in 1399, after Jean had died, between Jean’s widow and “Jean de Bethune”, confirmed by decision dated 4 Jul 1401[445]m EUSTACHE Seigneur de Voudenay, son of THOMAS Seigneur de Voudenay & his wife Jeanne de Conflans (-1392).  

5.         JEANNE de Béthune (-1380)A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints”, adding that in 1373 his father died leaving two sons and two daughters one of whom married “messire I. de Roye[446].  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that they left two daughters of whom “una Maria et altera Ioanna”, Jeanne marrying “defuncto Ioanni de Roya domino de Alneto et de Mureto[447]m as his first wife, JEAN de Roye Seigneur d’Aunoy, son of MATHIEU de Roye Seigneur d’Aunoy & his wife Jeanne de Chërisy Dame de Muret (-Nikopolis [Sep] 1396)

 

 

ALPIN de Béthune, son of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Mareuil & his wife Jeanne d’Anglure (-before 16 Sep 1546)Seigneur de Mareuil. 

m (contract 13 Jun 1509) JEANNE Jouvenel des Ursins, daughter of JEAN [III] Jouvenel des Ursins Seigneur de la Chapelle & his wife Louise de Varic (-1544). 

Alpin & his wife had children: 

1.         JEAN de Béthune (-Château de Coucy 1554, bur Coucy).  Baron de Baye et de Rosny.  m firstly (contract Château de Caumont en Artois 19 Jun 1529) ANNE de Melun Dame de Rosny et de Villeneuve en Chevrie, daughter of HUGUES de Melun Burggraaf van Gent Seigneur de Rosny & his wife Johanna van Horne Dame de Brimeux (-before 13 Jan 1540)m secondly JEANNE du Pré, daughter of ---.  Jean & his first wife had children: 

a)         FRANÇOIS de Béthune (-end 1575).  Baron de Rosny.  m firstly (contract 13 Jan 1557) CHARLOTTE Dauvet, daughter of ROBERT Dauvet Seigneur de Rieux & his wife Anne Briçonnet.  m secondly as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Louvigny, widow of JEAN Baron de Clere, daughter of ---.  François & his first wife had children: 

i)          MAXIMILIEN [I] de Béthune (-Château de Villebon 21 Dec 1641, bur Nogent-le-Rotrou).  Duc de Sully Feb 1606. 

-         DUCS de SULLY

ii)         PHILIPPE de Béthune (-Selles 1649).  Comte de Selles et de Charots.  

-         COMTES de SELLES, MARQUIS de SELLES[448]

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de HOUDAIN

 

 

Houdain is located about 5 kilometres south-west of Béthune in the present-day French département of Pas-de-Calais, arrondissement Béthune, canton Houdain. 

 

 

1.         ANSELME de Houdain (-after 1096).  “Ansellus Valencen, castellan. Ribedimontis et Oestrevandie dominus” founded Anchin abbey by charter dated 1096, in the presence of “...Anselmus de Houdeng...[449]

 

 

1.         ANSELME de Houdain (-after 1145).  From a chronological point of view, it is possible that Anselme de Houdain was the same person as the unnamed son of Gauthier de Hesdin shown above in Part A of this chapter, although it has not yet been ascertained whether the names Hesdin/Houdain are the same.  According to Du Chesne, Anselme de Houdain was the son and grandson of two other individuals named Anselme de Houdain but he cites no primary source on which he bases his statements[450].  Charles Count of Flanders and "Anselmus Hisdinensis consul" returned property, on which "Mathildis comitissa olim" had constructed and from which "Walterus Hisdinensis" had expelled her, to the abbey of Saint-Silvin d’Auchy, by charter dated 1126, signed by "…Frumoldo castellano Yprensi, Willelmo filio Willelmi castellani de Sancto Audomaro…"[451].  "…Anselmus de Hesdinio…" signed the charter dated 14 Apr 1127 under which Guillaume Count of Flanders granted privileges to the town of Saint-Omer[452].  “...Anselmus de Housdeng...” witnessed the charter dated Jul 1129 under which “Hugo castellanus de Cambrai et dom. de Oisy” donated property to Mont Saint-Eloi[453].  A charter dated 1145 records that “Ansellus de Hosden et Aiglina uxor eius” donated property “qui leur apartenoit du chef de ladite dame au village de Courcelles le Comte” to Eaucourt abbey, Artois, with the consent of “Robert fils dudit Ansellus de Hosden et de Ingerannus comes Ternensis et de Anselm frère dudit Ingelrannus...Adelais seur de ladite Aiglina[454].  “Ingerranus...comes de Sancto Paulo” donated property “de Beueri villa” to Marciennes abbey, with the consent of “fratris mei Anselmi et Anselmi de Hosden sororii mei et sororis mei Agelinæ et filii eius Roberti”, by undated charter witnessed by “...Elberti de Carenci...Anselmi de Pas...[455]m AIGELINE, daughter of [HUGUES [III] "Candavène" Comte de Saint-Pol & his first wife ---] (-after 1145).  A charter dated 1145 records that “Ansellus de Hosden et Aiglina uxor eius” donated property “qui leur apartenoit du chef de ladite dame au village de Courcelles le Comte” to Eaucourt abbey, Artois, with the consent of “Robert fils dudit Ansellus de Hosden et de Ingerannus comes Ternensis et de Anselm frère dudit Ingelrannus...Adelais seur de ladite Aiglina[456].  “Ingerranus...comes de Sancto Paulo” donated property “de Beueri villa” to Marciennes abbey, with the consent of “fratris mei Anselmi et Anselmi de Hosden sororii mei et sororis mei Agelinæ et filii eius Roberti”, by undated charter witnessed by “...Elberti de Carenci...Anselmi de Pas...[457].  Anselme & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT .  A charter dated 1145 records that “Ansellus de Hosden et Aiglina uxor eius” donated property “qui leur apartenoit du chef de ladite dame au village de Courcelles le Comte” to Eaucourt abbey, Artois, with the consent of “Robert fils dudit Ansellus de Hosden et de Ingerannus comes Ternensis et de Anselm frère dudit Ingelrannus...Adelais seur de ladite Aiglina”, by charter dated 1145[458].  “Ingerranus...comes de Sancto Paulo” donated property “de Beueri villa” to Marciennes abbey, with the consent of “fratris mei Anselmi et Anselmi de Hosden sororii mei et sororis mei Agelinæ et filii eius Roberti”, by undated charter witnessed by “...Elberti de Carenci...Anselmi de Pas...[459]

b)         HUGUES de Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Hugues Seigneur de Houdain...Robert de Houdain, Enguerran et Guy” as the children of “Anselme III Seigneur de Houdain” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[460].  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.

c)         ENGUERRAND de Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Hugues Seigneur de Houdain...Robert de Houdain, Enguerran et Guy” as the children of “Anselme III Seigneur de Houdain” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[461]

d)         GUY de Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Hugues Seigneur de Houdain...Robert de Houdain, Enguerran et Guy” as the children of “Anselme III Seigneur de Houdain” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[462]

2.         EUSTACHE de Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Anselme III Seigneur de Houdain, Eustache de Houdain Seigneur de Choques et Geofroy de Houdain” as the children of “Anselme II Seigneur de Houdain” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[463].  Seigneur de Choques (part).  m ---.  The name of Eustache’s wife is not known.  Eustache & his wife had one child: 

a)         ANSELME d’Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Anselme de Houdain dit de Choques Seigneur du mesme lieu...Hugues de Houdain aussi Seigneur de Choques en partie” as the children of “Eustache de Houdain Seigneur de Choques” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[464]

b)         HUGUES de Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Anselme de Houdain dit de Choques Seigneur du mesme lieu...Hugues de Houdain aussi Seigneur de Choques en partie” as the children of “Eustache de Houdain Seigneur de Choques” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[465]m as her second husband, MATHILDE de Béthune, widow of GAUTHIER de Bourbourg, daughter of ROBERT [V] "le Roux" Seigneur de Béthune & his wife Adelaide --- (-7 Dec 1220).  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that Gauthier, son of "Broburgensi castellano Henrico, Deinardi filio" and his wife Beatrix married "advocati Roberti de Bethunia filiam Mathildem sororem Elizabeth"[466].  Her parentage and first marriage are also indicated by the 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre which records that "Robiers de Biethune" captured "Gisnes el castiel" and "la contesse…sa cousine germaine" (who was Mathilde’s daughter), dated to [1214] from the context[467].  She married thirdly as his second wife, Baudouin [II] de Comines.  “Matildis de Hosdagnio et Balduinus de Cominis maritus meus” and “Danielem advocatum Attrebatensem et dominum Bethuniensem” divided “terra de Chockes” between them, inherited from “Aelide filia Balduini quondam comitis de Aubeni”, by charter dated Jan 1216 (O.S.), with the seal of “Mathildis domine de Hosden et castellanee de Broburg” attached[468].  Baudouin "Dominus Robertus, Wilhelmus, Joannes de Bethunia, fratres Danielis tunc temporis domini Bethuniensis, Atrebatensis advocati, et Amalricus de Fontenella, milites, Beatridis comitissa de Gisnes, et Katarina sorores" witnessed the charter dated Nov 1220 under which "Mathildis de Housdaing…domina de Chockes" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques[469].  "Beatrix comitissa de Gisnes et castellana de Bourbourch" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, for the souls of "patris mei Walteri castellani de Bourbourch et matris meæ Mathildis de Bethunia dominæ de Chokes et Arnoldi comitis Gisnensis mariti mei et fratris mei Henrici castellani de Bourbourch", by charter dated 12 May 1221[470].  The necrology of Choques records the death “VII Id Dec” of “Mathildis de Bethunia domina de Choques, mater Beatricis comitissæ de Gisnes” and her donation of “vivarium de Pugnoia[471].  “Daniel advocatus Attrebatensis et dominus Betuniæ” confirmed that “Ioannes de Calceia et Aelidis uxor eius et Hugo eorum primogenitus” confirmed the donation to Choques abbey made by “Matildis de Husdaing domina de Chockes in plena vita sua” by charter dated Nov 1224[472].  Hugues & his wife had one child: 

i)          ALIX de Houdain (-23 Feb after Jun 1248).  “Daniel advocatus Attrebatensis et dominus Betuniæ” confirmed that “Ioannes de Calceia et Aelidis uxor eius et Hugo eorum primogenitus” confirmed the donation to Choques abbey made by “Matildis de Husdaing domina de Chockes in plena vita sua” by charter dated Nov 1224[473].  “Robertus Attrebatensis advocatus, Bethuniæ et Tenremondæ dominus” settled a dispute between Choques abbey and “consanguineam meam Aelidim de Calceia” by charter dated Aug 1244[474].  “Aelis de Kauchie” confirmed that “ma mere Medame Mehaus de Housdaing” had donated property to Notre-Dame de Los near Lille during her lifetime, by charter dated Jun 1248[475].  It has not yet been ascertained whether Alix was her mother’s daughter by her known marriage or by her possible second marriage.  The necrology of Choques records the death “VII Kal Mar” of “Adelidis de Calceia domina de Choques[476]m JEAN de Cauchy, son of ---. 

3.         GEOFFROY de Houdain .  Du Chesne names “Anselme III Seigneur de Houdain, Eustache de Houdain Seigneur de Choques et Geofroy de Houdain” as the children of “Anselme II Seigneur de Houdain” but he does not cite the corresponding primary sources[477]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 4.    LILLE

 

 

 

A.      CHÂTELAINS de LILLE

 

 

A castle at Lille is first recorded in a charter dated to [1034-47] issued 20 Jan “apud castrum Isla”, under which the abbot of Gand Saint-Pierre complained of the injustices committed by “advocatus” at Douchy[478], although the precise date of the fortification’s construction is not known.  A châtelain at Lille is named for the first time in a chronicle reporting events in 1071, and from 1087 in charters, although it is likely that the position existed previously but that the office-holders were not referred to as such in earlier documentation.  Reconstruction of this family is complicated by the early 17th century study by Floris Vander Haer[479].  His work cannot be ignored as he cites charters from the abbey of Phalempin which have apparently since disappeared.  However, he does not consistently quote passages from the original text of these documents and, when he does, his extracts are incomplete and selective.  In any case, his reconstructions are in many cases inconsistent with other charters to which he evidently did not have access and must be treated with caution. 

 

 

1.         SASWALON (-after 1039).  “...Saswalon militis...” witnessed the charter dated 1038 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders appointed Hugues Havet d’Aubigny as avoué de Marchiennes[480].  Hugues Bishop of Noyon approved the foundation of Phalempin abbey by "Saswalo" donated property to "Fratrum Trunciniensis ecclesiæ" near Gand by charter dated 1039[481]

 

2.         BAUDOUIN de Lille (-after [1070]).  “...Balduuini de Insula...” witnessed the charter dated to [1070] which settled disputes between the abbot of Saint-Bavon and “advocatus[482]

 

3.         GERARD de Buc (-after 1071).  [Châtelain de Lille.]  The Chronicon Comitum Flandrensium records that “dominus Gerardus de Buc castellanus Insulensis” helped supporters of Robert I Count of Flanders escape attack by Richilde, widow of Baudouin VI Count of Flanders, in 1071[483].  It is not clear that Gérard used the title châtelain at the time: it may have been attributed to him by the chronicler writing at a later period. 

 

 

1.         ROGER [I] (-Acre 23 Jun 1098).  Châtelain de Lille.  “...Rotgeri Hislensis castellani...” witnessed the charter dated Jan 1087 under which Rainard Abbé de Ribémont notified a donation made by Anselme de Ribémont[484].  Robert II Count of Flanders confirmed a donation by "Anselmus de Monte Ribodonis" to the abbey of Ribemont, for the soul of "patris sui Anselmi", by charter dated 8 Jan 1088 signed by "…Rotgeri Hislensis castellani…Evrardi Tornacensis castellani…Odonis de Duaco castellani…"[485].  Robert I Count of Flanders confirmed the foundation of Phalempin abbey by “Saswalone”, at the request of “Rodgerus Islensis castellanus”, by charter dated 27 Apr 1090[486].  “...Rogeri castellani de Insula...Frumoldi de eadem Insula...” witnessed the charter dated 5 Feb 1096 under which Robert II Count of Flanders restored revenue to Tours Saint-Martin[487].  Robert II Count of Flanders, about to leave for Jerusalem, donated "Bodium de Lescin" to Lille Saint-Pierre, with the consent of “Engelbertus...Cizoniensis et Rodgerus castellanus Islensis” who were accompanying him, by charter dated 1096, witnessed by “Engelbertus castellanus, Rodgerus castell., Winemarus castell., Rodbertus castell., Walterus castell., Rodgerius junior castell., Balduinus de Gand...[488].  "Gautherii, prius castellani Duacensis, modo autem clerici, Hugonis, fratris eiusdem, Cameraco, Rogeri castellani de Insula, Frimoldi de eadem Insula…" signed the charter dated 3 Feb 1097 which records the settlement of a dispute between the count of Flanders and the abbey of Saint-Martin de Tours[489].  A letter from Anselme de Ribémont to Manasse Archbishop of Reims dated 1099 records that “Rogerium...castellanum Insulæ” died from his wounds received during the siege of Antioch[490].  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “IX Kal Jul” of “Rogeri castellani senioris[491]m OGIVE, daughter of --- (-19 Mar after 1108).  The Chronicon Phanopino states that Balderic Bishop of Tournai recorded that “femina...Ogiva vidua...Rogerii...advocati” restored Phalempin abbey (founded by “antecessoribus prœfatæ mulieris”) in 1108[492].  The reference to Ogive’s ancestors having founded the abbey suggests that she was descended from Saswalon who is named above.  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “XIV Kal Apr” of “Ogivæ castellanæ[493]

 

2.         FRUMOLD (-after 1102).  “...Rogeri castellani de Insula...Frumoldi de eadem Insula...” witnessed the charter dated 5 Feb 1096 under which Robert II Count of Flanders restored revenue to Tours Saint-Martin[494].  Robert Count of Flanders confirmed the possessions of Cambrai Saint-Aubert “in villa de Keans” by charter dated 1102, in the presence of “...Frumoldi de Insula...[495].  "...Roberti advocati, Roberti castellani, Rogeri castellani, Everardi, Frumoldi Insulani, Frumoldi de Ypres..." witnessed the charter dated 1102 under which Robert II Count of Flanders granted privileges to Saint-Bertin relating to “villa Arkas[496]

 

 

Six siblings.  The primary source which confirms their parentage has not been identified.  Presumably their father was one of the earlier châtelains de Lille who are named above: the 1096 document quoted below suggests that he was Roger [I]. 

 

1.         ROGER [II] (-3 Sep [1130/38]).  [Robert II Count of Flanders, about to leave for Jerusalem, donated "Bodium de Lescin" to Lille Saint-Pierre, with the consent of “Engelbertus...Cizoniensis et Rodgerus castellanus Islensis” who were accompanying him, by charter dated 1096, witnessed by “...Rodgerus castell...Rodgerius junior castell...[497].  It is not certain that the second witness was the same person as Roger [II], but if so it is likely that he was the son of Roger [I] who is named earlier in the list.]  Châtelain de Lille.  Robert II Count of Flanders swore allegiance to Henry I King of England by charter dated 17 May 1101, witnessed by “...Rogerus castellanus de Insula...[498].  "...Roberti advocati, Roberti castellani, Rogeri castellani, Everardi, Frumoldi Insulani, Frumoldi de Ypres..." witnessed the charter dated 1102 under which Robert II Count of Flanders granted privileges to Saint-Bertin relating to “villa Arkas[499].  “...Rogerus castellanus...” witnessed the charter dated 1106 under which Balderic Bishop of Noyon donated property near Cohem, Blarenghem and Blendecques to Bourbourg[500].  "…Fastradi de Tornaco, Liettardi de Henim…Engilberti de Peitengen…Rogeri de Insula…" signed the charter dated 5 Aug 1111 under which Robert II Count of Flanders confirmed duty exemptions to the abbey of Saint-Amand[501].  Meyer’s Annalium Flandriæ record that “...Rogero Insulensi...” witnessed the renewal of peace between the lords of Flanders by Robert II Count of Flanders 27 May 1111[502].  "…Rogerus castellanus Insulensis et Robertus filius eius…" signed the charter dated 14 Apr 1127 under which Guillaume Count of Flanders granted privileges to the town of Saint-Omer[503].  “...Rogero Islensi castellano...” witnessed the charter dated 1128 relating to the privileges of the church of Lille Saint-Pierre[504].  “...Rogerus de Insula, Robertus filius suus...” witnessed the charter dated 1130 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property “Casletule et Alnoit” to Bourbourg[505].  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “III Non Sep” of “Rogeri castellani junioris[506].  Roger [II] presumably died before [1138], the date of the charter quoted below in which his son Robert is named châtelain de Lille.  m ---.  The name of Roger’s wife is not known.  The chronology of the marriages of his two younger sons Renaud and Hugues indicates that they were much younger than their brother Robert, suggesting that they were born from a later second marriage of their father.  Roger [II] & his wife had [six] children: 

a)         ROBERT (-23 Mar [1146/49]).  "…Rogerus castellanus Insulensis et Robertus filius eius…" signed the charter dated 14 Apr 1127 under which Guillaume Count of Flanders granted privileges to the town of Saint-Omer[507].  “...Rogerus de Insula, Robertus filius suus...” witnessed the charter dated 1130 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property “Casletule et Alnoit” to Bourbourg[508]Châtelain de Lille.  "…Roberti castellani Insulanensis…" signed the charter dated to [1138] under which "Guilelmus jure hereditario Betuniensis advocatus" donated property to the church of Saint-Pry, with the consent of "Clementia uxore mea filioque meo Roberto"[509].  “...Robertus Insulensis castellani...” witnessed the charter dated 1142 under which Thierry Count of Flanders transferred property from the chapter of Thérouanne to Ypres[510].  [“...Rodgerus castellanus de Insulis...” witnessed the charter dated 1145 under which Thierry Count of Flanders transferred confirmed property of Gand Saint-Bavo[511].  Leuridan suggests that this charter refers to a “Roger III châtelain de Lille”, which if correct means that subsequent charters referring to Châtelain Robert refer to a different person from Robert who is named between 1127 and 1142; Leuridan continues by saying that this second Robert, as well as the brothers Renaud, Hugues and Roger who are named below, were sons of Roger [III][512].  Insufficient information is known to test whether inserting another generation in the Lille family is consistent with the chronology.  Another simpler explanation would be that “Rodgerus” in this 1145 document represents an error for “Robertus” and that Roger [III] never existed.]  “Robertus castellanus, Ulardus advocatus, Theodericus filius eius” witnessed the charter dated 1146 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of “villam Provin” made to Saint-Trond “per castellanum meum Robertum et Ulardum advocatum et filium eius Theodericum[513].  Robert presumably died before 1149 when his brother Renaud is named as châtelain de Lille.  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “X Kal Apr” of “Roberti castellani[514]

b)         RENAUD (-[1163]).  His parentage is confirmed by the 1155 charter quoted below.  Châtelain de Lille.  “Renaldus castellanus” was named in the charter dated 1149 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed that “Anselme de Lambres” had bought land “dans la poesté de Fretin[515].  “...Reinaldus Insulensis castellanus...” witnessed the charter dated 1152 under which Thierry Count of Flanders exempted Los abbey from duties on its land[516].  Renaud Châtelain de Lille exchanged property donated by “Robertus castellanus frater eius Ierosolymam proficiscens” with Phalempin abbey by charter dated 1155[517].  Renaud Châtelain de Lille confirmed the donation of wood made by “Rogerii castellani et Roberti filii sui” to Phalempin abbey by charter dated 1156[518].  "Reinaldi Insulensis castellani…" witnessed the charter dated 1163 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed "apud Scalclede in parochia de Ruslede" to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[519].  "...Reinaldi Insulensis castellani, Rogeri filii eius…" witnessed the charter dated 1163 under which Thierry Count of Flanders attested a donation made by "Jordano" to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[520].  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed that “Renaldus...castellanus moriens” had donated wood to Phalempin abbey, with the consent of “fratribus suis Hugone et Rogero et sorore” by charter dated [1162][521].  [m firstly ---.  The naming of Renaud’s son Roger in the 1163 charter quoted below suggests that he was old enough to participate in donations and therefore was probably born from an earlier marriage of his father.]  m [secondly] (contract before 1157) MATHILDE de Wavrin, daughter of ROGER [III] de Wavrin & his first wife Mathilde ---.  A charter of Thierry Count of Flanders dated 1157 records the contract for the marriage of "Raginaldus Insule castellanus" and "Matildim Rogeri de Waverin dapiferi nostri filiam", constituting as her dowry revenue from "Senghin in Weppes…consulatum de Everlengeham, decimam de Petria", and the subsequent dispute between Renaud and “Rogerum de Waverin” about her dowry[522].  Renaud & his [first/second] wife had one child: 

i)          ROGER (-[1163]).  "...Reinaldi Insulensis castellani, Rogeri filii eius…" witnessed the charter dated 1163 under which Thierry Count of Flanders attested a donation made by "Jordano" to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[523].  If Roger was the son of Mathilde de Wavrin, he would presumably have been a child at the time.  Another possibility is that he was born from an earlier otherwise unrecorded marriage of his father.  Roger presumably predeceased his father, or was considered too young to succeed as châtelain, as his paternal uncle Hugues is recorded as his father’s successor. 

c)         HUGUES (-[1169/1174]).  Provost of Saint-Piat de Seclin, according to the Historia Comitum Ghisnensium when recording his marriage (see below).  He presumably resigned his ecclesiastical appointments when his brother Renaud died.  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed that “Renaldus...castellanus moriens” had donated wood to Phalempin abbey, with the consent of “fratribus suis Hugone et Rogero et sorore” by charter dated [1162][524]Châtelain de Lille.  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed rights of Marciennes by charter dated 16 Feb 1166, signed by “...Hugonis cast. Insulæ...[525].  “...Hugonis castellani Insulæ...” witnessed the charter dated 1169 under which Philippe Count of Flanders settled a dispute between Marchiennes abbey and “Amalrico de Landast[526]m as her first husband, ADELAIDE de Guines, daughter of ARNOLD van Gent Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Saint-Omer.  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Margaretam…Beatricem…Adelidem …Eufemiam et Luthgaudam…Mathildem…Ghislam…Agnetem" as the eight daughters of "Gandavense Arnoldo" & his wife, specifying that Marguerite married firstly "Insulensi castellano Hugoni" (specifying that he was "prius Sancti Piati Seclinensis preoposito") and secondly "Roberto de Waveriaco, fratri Hellini Flandrie dapiferi sive senescali", and that her dowry was "apud Senghiniacum"[527].  Duchesne indicated that “Hugoni” in the Historia represents an error for “Reinaldi” and that Adelaide therefore married Renaud Châtelain de Lille as his third wife[528].  He highlighted “lettres à S. Wast d’Arras” in which Adelaide’s second husband declared holding “icelle terre de Senghin...à cause de sa femme” (this land having previously formed part of the dowry of Renaud’s [second] wife Mathilde de Wavrin) and that Adelaide would have to return it to “Jean chastelain de Lille fils du chastellain Hugues et de Hermentrude, qui en estoit le proprietaire”.  Leuridan supposes that Mathilde’s property would have returned to the Wavrin family after she died without surviving children[529], although if that is correct it is not clear how Renaud could then have given it to Adelaide de Guines if she had been his third wife.  An alternative property agreement between the Wavrin and Lille families seems likely, under which part of Mathilde’s dowry was transferred to the Lille family (maybe as part of an exchange) and that Châtelain Hugues granted it to Adelaide as dowry on their marriage.  Whatever the property arrangements, the Historia mentions Hugues’s prior ecclesiastical appointment which does seem to identify him as Adelaide’s husband: there is no record of Châtelain Renaud holding any ecclesiastical position and, even if he had, he would have resigned it much earlier (in view of his two marriages) so mentioning it in the Historia would not have been relevant.  She married secondly Robert de Wavrin.  The question of Hugues’s supposed marriage to “Hermentrude” is discussed below in the context of identifying the parentage of Jean Châtelain de Lille. 

d)         ROGER .  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed that “Renaldus...castellanus moriens” had donated wood to Phalempin abbey, with the consent of “fratribus suis Hugone et Rogero et sorore” by charter dated [1162][530]

e)         daughter .  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed that “Renaldus...castellanus moriens” had donated wood to Phalempin abbey, with the consent of “fratribus suis Hugone et Rogero et sorore” by charter dated [1162][531]

2.         ROBERT de Lille .  Archdeacon of Tournai: a Cronice Flandrensium, dated to the end-12th century, names “Rogerus castellanus Insulensis...cui frater erat Robertus...clericus et archdiaconus Tornacensis et præpositus Insulensis tercius” who lived 46 years[532]

3.         SARA de Lille (-4 Oct ----).  A Cronice Flandrensium, dated to the end-12th century, names “Rogerus castellanus Insulensis...cui frater erat Robertus...clericus et archdiaconus Tornacensis et præpositus Insulensis tercius” who “plures habuerunt sorores” of whom “primam duxit uxorem castellanus Curtracensis Saram nomine” by whom he had “liberos Rogerum castellanum...et Desiderium, quartum Insulensem præpositum, qui vixit prope XXIX annis, postea promotus est in episcopatum Morinensem, cui successit tercius frater eius Robertus...quintus præpositus Insulensis, qui vixit prope quindecim annos[533].  Duchesne says that she was “Sarre de Lille fille de Roger le Jeune chastellain de Lille[534].  He cites no primary source on which he bases this information, which is contradicted by the source quoted above.  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “IV Non Oct” of “Sarræ castellanæ[535]m as his first wife, ROGER [I] Châtelain de Courtrai, son of --- (-after 6 May 1187). 

4.         --- de Lille .  A Cronice Flandrensium, dated to the end-12th century, names “Rogerus castellanus Insulensis...cui frater erat Robertus...clericus et archdiaconus Tornacensis et præpositus Insulensis tercius” who “plures habuerunt sorores” of whom “secundam duxit Hugo de (Aqua) dictus Hugo de Bruc” by whom he had “Rogerum militem[536].  A Cronice Flandrensium, dated to the end-12th century, records that Guillaume Count of Flanders visited Lille [dated to 1128] where he met “Robertus archidiaconus tunc præpositus tertius et frater suus Rogerus miles...nepos eius Rogerus de Bruc miles...[537]m HUGUES [d’Aix] dictus du Breucq, son of ---. 

5.         --- de Lille .  A Cronice Flandrensium, dated to the end-12th century, names “Rogerus castellanus Insulensis...cui frater erat Robertus...clericus et archdiaconus Tornacensis et præpositus Insulensis tercius” who “plures habuerunt sorores” of whom “terciam duxit Rogerus de Landast[538]m ROGER de Landas, son of ---. 

6.         --- de Lille .  A Cronice Flandrensium, dated to the end-12th century, names “Rogerus castellanus Insulensis...cui frater erat Robertus...clericus et archdiaconus Tornacensis et præpositus Insulensis tercius” who “plures habuerunt sorores” of whom “quartam [duxit] Walterus de Formeseles[539]m GAUTHIER de Formeseles, son of ---. 

 

 

1.         BERNOLD de Lille (-after 22 Jun 1121).  "…Froulfus castellanus de Bergis, Theorardus castellanus Broburgensis…Bernoldus de Insula…" signed a charter dated 14 Oct 1104 under which Robert II Count of Flanders donated revenue to the monastery of Bourbourg[540].  "…Levrardi castellani de Broburg, Froolfi castellani de Bergis…Bernoldi de Insula, Malgeri et Johannis fratris eius" signed a charter dated 21 Mar 1107 under which Robert II Count of Flanders donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg[541].  "…Theinardus castellanus, Frooldus castellanus, Willelmus castellanus…Bernoldus ex Insula, Malgerus nepos eius, Johannes frater eius, Jordan, Folco filius Malgeri…" signed a charter dated 1112 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders donated revenue to the monastery of Bourbourg[542].  "Themardi Broburgensis castellani…Bernoldi de Insula…" signed a charter dated 22 Jun 1121 under which Charles Count of Flanders donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg[543]

 

2.         REINBOLD [Renaud] (-after 1133).  Châtelain de Lille.  “...Reinboldus castellanus Insulensis...” witnessed the charter dated Jul 1129 under which “Hugo castellanus de Cambrai et dom. de Oisy” donated property to Mont Saint-Eloi[544].  “...Reinaldi Insulensis castellani...” witnessed the charter dated 1133 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to Gand Saint-Pierre[545]

 

3.         HENRI de Lille .  "…Henrico castellano Broburgensi, Beatrice uxore eius, Balduino, Henrico, Gilleberto filiis eius…Henrico de Insula…Lamberto de Insula…" signed the charter dated to [1150] which records that "Beatricis castellane Broburgensis" granted a serf to the monastery of Bourbourg[546]

 

4.         LAMBERT de Lille .  "…Henrico castellano Broburgensi, Beatrice uxore eius, Balduino, Henrico, Gilleberto filiis eius…Henrico de Insula…Lamberto de Insula…" signed the charter dated to [1150] which records that "Beatricis castellane Broburgensis" granted a serf to the monastery of Bourbourg[547]

 

 

The parentage of Jean [I] Châtelain de Lille has not been ascertained with certainty.  Vander Haer indicates that he was the son of Châtelain Hugues (see above)[548].  The name “Hugues” does not feature among Jean’s known descendants, which is surprising if he had been Jean’s father.  In addition, if Hugues married after the death of his brother Renaud in [1163], his children would have been minors when he died, but Jean is first named as châtelain de Lille in 1174 (see below).  Vander Haer complicates the question by indicating that Hugues married “Ermentrude” whom he says was named “avec Jean son fils” in 1177 in a charter for Phalempin (details not given)[549].  Duchesne also refers to this alleged 1177 charter.  This position is inconsistent with the Historia Comitum Ghisnensium, according to which Hugues’s widow, Adelaide de Guines, survived her husband and married again after he died.  Vander Haer also says (unsupported by a primary source reference) that Hugues had two sons, both named Jean, of whom the younger was abbé de Phalempin. One possibility is that Jean was the son of a female relative of Châtelain Hugues (named Ermentrude?) who was heiress after Hugues died without male heirs.  The absence of the name “Jean” among the members of Hugues’s family also suggests that it was introduced from another family following a marriage.  Vander Haer introduces further complications by stating that Châtelain Roger [IV] donated property to Phalempin by charter dated Feb 1217 which names “dominus Hugo tunc castellanus prædecessor meus” and (inconsistently) records that the donation was made for the soul of “patris mei dictique Hugonis[550].  One possibility is that Vander Haer truncated his extracts, and that the second quoted section represents a vidimus recording an earlier donation made by Roger’s father. 

 

1.         JEAN [I] (-[15 Jul 1199/1201]).  Châtelain de Lille.  “…Iohannis castellani de Insula…” witnessed the charter dated 1174 under which Philippe Count of Flanders confirmed that “Everardus Radol de Tornaco” donated “terram…Vokinewerf” to Furnes[551]...Jean châtelain de Lille...” witnessed the charter dated 12 Mar 1176 (O.S.) under which Philippe Count of Flanders donated property to Los abbey[552].  "…Johannis Insulensis castellani…" witnessed the charter dated 25 Mar 1183 under which confirmed privileges of the church of St Donat, Bruges[553].  “...Ioanno castellano Insulensi...Balduino camerario de Grammin...” witnessed the charter dated Aug 1198 under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders confirmed an exchange involving Nonnenbossche convent[554].  “...Johanne castellano Insulensi...” witnessed the charter dated 15 Jul 1199 under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders established new transport tarifs for Gent[555].  It is suggested that Jean died before 1201 when Gilbert de Burgelle is first named as châtelain de Lille (see below).  m ---.  The name of Jean’s wife is not known.  It is suggested that she was “E---“ who with her second husband “G. de Bourghiele et...uxor mea E, quondam Insule castellana” founded the chapel of Quiquemoix at Flers by charter dated Apr 1220[556].  Elsewhere, Leuridan suggests a more complicated case, in which “E---“ was the widow of an older son of Jean [I] who predeceased his father leaving an (unnamed) son who succeeded his grandfather and for whom her second husband acting as châtelain until he died and was in turn succeeded by Roger [IV][557].  This seems an unnecessarily complicated theory and probably stretches the chronology of the family.  In yet another place, Leuridan suggests that “E---“ was “Ermentrude, mère de Jean et veuve de Hugues châtelain de Lille[558].  The question of this shady Ermentrude is discussed above.  Jean [I] & his wife had four children: 

a)         ROGER [IV] (-[2 Oct 1229/Jun 1230]).  Vander Haer records a donation to Phalempin by “Rogerus castellanus de Insula” dated 1212 in which he names “monsieur Jean de bonne memoire chastelain de Lille son pere[559]Châtelain de Lille: “...Rogerum castellanum Insulæ...” witnessed the charter dated Feb 1211 under which Ferrand Count of Flanders ceded part of Artois to Philippe II King of France[560].  “Rogerus castellanus de Insula” notified that “Alardus de Los” had sold property to Los abbey by charter dated Apr 1218[561].  “Rogerus castellanus Insulensis” established the laws of the towns of Saint-Vaast by charter dated May 1220[562].  “Rogerus castellanus de Insula” ratified the donation made to Lille Saint-Pierre by “frater meus W. prepositus Insulensis” by charter dated 1224[563].  “Rogerus Insulensis castellanus” declared that “Sara Viane de Segedin et sorores eius” had donated property to Los abbey by charter dated 2 Oct 1229[564].  A charter dated Jun 1230 records that “Rogerius bonæ memoriæ quondam Insulensis castellanus” had donated property to Lille Saint-Pierre[565].  [m MARIE, daughter of --- (-11 Sep, before Feb 1217).  Vander Haer indicates that Châtelain Roger [IV] donated property to Phalempin by charter dated Feb 1217 “ut mihi dominus et Mariæ uxori meæ æterne beatudinis præmiæ largiatur”, suggesting that this passage indicates that she was deceased at the time[566].  Vander Haer adds that “Clement de Sainghin” (mid-15th century) indicated that Roger married “Clemence fille de Hellin S. d’Armentieres”, without citing any primary source.  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “III Id Sep” of “Mariæ uxoris Rogeri castellani[567].] 

b)         GUILLAUME (-[Nov 1235/1237]).  Provost of Lille Saint-Pierre.  “Rogerus castellanus de Insula” ratified the donation made to Lille Saint-Pierre by “frater meus W. prepositus Insulensis” by charter dated 1224[568]Châtelain de Lille: "Willelmus...prepositus beati Petri et castellanus de Insula" issued a charter dated 1233 relating to the prebend of Lille Saint-Pierre[569].  “Willelmus Insulensis castellanus” donated money to Phalempin abbey by charter dated 1234, sealed by “Ioannis Peronensis castellani nepotis mei et heredis[570].  “Willelmus Insulensis castellanus” granted property, previously held by “viri nobilis bone memorie domini Hugonis de Oisiaco...quondam uxor domina Margareta Blesensis comitissa nuper defuncta”, to “domino Matheo de Meterne militi...consanguine mea domina Elizabet uxore sua” by charter dated Nov 1235[571]

c)         ROBERT (-after Feb 1217).  “Frater Robertus frater castellani de Insula...” witnessed the charter dated Feb 1216 (O.S.) under which “Pierre de Brucco” notified that “Yderus de Holebecca...” donated property to the Templars[572]

d)         [ELISABETH] de Lille (-before 1237).  Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 1234 under which [her brother] Willelmus Insulensis castellanus” donated money to Phalempin abbey, sealed by “Ioannis Peronensis castellani nepotis mei et heredis[573].  Vander Haer names her “Elisabeth” but cites no primary source on which he bases this information[574].  No primary source has been identified which names her.  She and her husband presumably predeceased her brother Guillaume, whch accounts for the succession of her son.  m --- Châtelain de Péronne, son of --- (-before 1234). 

 

 

1.         GILBERT de Burgelle (-after Apr 1220).  It is suggested that he was appointed châtelain during the minority of Roger [IV], after marrying Roger’s mother.  Châtelain de Lille.  Gérard Chancellor of Flanders et Willelmus Sancti Audomari castellanus et Gerardus [error for Gillebertus?] Insulensis castellanus” confirmed that “Balduinus de Rouslo” had donated “decimam...apud Wevelghem” to Harlebeek by charter dated 1201[575].  “Balduinus...imperator...Romanie...Flandrie et Hainonie comes” notified “avunculo suo Gerardo Brugensium preposito ac Flandrie cancellario et...Willelmo castellano Sancti Audomari et Gilleberto Insulensis, baillivis suis de Flandrie” that he had granted land to “Waltero clerico...de Curtraco” at the request of “Robertus de Sperleka” by charter dated Feb 1204 [O.S.] in palacio nostro Blakerne”, witnessed by “homines mei de Flandria:...Gislebertus de Ipra, Robelote de Waverin...homines nostri de Romania...Cono de Betunia fidelis et consanguineus noster, Gulfridus marescallus Campanie, Milo de Brebant, Manesulus de Insula[576]Balduinus...imperator...Romaniorum...Flandrie et Hainonie comes” notified “avunculo suo Gerardo Brugensium preposito et totius Flandrie cancellario et Wilhelmo advocato Betunie et Wilhelmo Sancti Audomari et Gilleberto Insulensi, castellanis, Balduino de Lobis et Lot--- de Ipris...baillivis suis” of his promise to build a chapel in his castle at Courtrai by charter dated Mar 1204 [O.S.] in palatio nostro Blakerne[577]Philippus marchio Namurcensis, Flandrie et Hainonie procurator” appointed a canon at Courtrai in accordance with instructions sent by “domini et fratris mei pie recordationis Balduini Flandrie et Hainonie comitis et postmodum Constantinopolitani imperatoris” to Gerardo avunculo suo Brugensi preposito, Willelmo advocato de Betunia, Willelmo castellano Sancti Audomari, et Guilleberto de Burgella tunc Insulensi castellano, quos in Flandria balivos suos statuerat” by charter dated May 1209[578].  “Willelmus Brugensis prepositus ac Flandrie cancellarius” notified “Gerardo Brugensi preposito et Flandrie cancellario, castellano sancti Audomari, advocato de Betunia, Guilleberto de Burgella tunc castellano Insulensi” that “Philippus marchio Namurcensis...” had appointed the last prebend to Courtrai in accordance with the wishes of Emperor Baudouin by charter dated 4 Oct 1209[579]G. de Bourghiele et...uxor mea E, quondam Insule castellana” founded the chapel of Quiquemoix at Flers by charter dated Apr 1220[580]m as her second husband, E---, widow of --- Châtelain de Lille, daughter of ---.  G. de Bourghiele et...uxor mea E, quondam Insule castellana” founded the chapel of Quiquemoix at Flers by charter dated Apr 1220[581].  As noted above, it is suggested that she was the widow of Jean Châtelain de Lille.  Leuridan suggests that she was “Ermentrude, mère de Jean et veuve de Hugues châtelain de Lille[582].  The question of this shady Ermentrude is discussed above. 

 

 

JEAN de Péronne, son of --- Châtelain de Péronne & his wife [Elisabeth] de Lille (-17 Nov 1244)Châtelain de Péronne: Willelmus Insulensis castellanus” donated money to Phalempin abbey by charter dated 1234, sealed by “Ioannis Peronensis castellani nepotis mei et heredis[583].  He succeeded his maternal uncle as Châtelain de Lille...Jean chastelain de Lille...” witnessed the charter dated 1237 which records that “Thomas de Savoye mary de ladite Jeanne” committed to observe the treaty between Jeanne Ctss of Flanders and the king of France[584].  A charter dated Feb 1242 records that Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et Pierre de Boueli chevalier son frère” had sold “leur ville de Combles” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and that “Mahaut femme du châtelain de Lille” had renounced her claim to dower over the town[585]The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “XV Kal Dec” of “Joannis castellani Insulensis et Peronensis[586]

m as her first husband, MATHILDE de Béthune, daughter of GUILLAUME de Béthune Seigneur de Pont-Rohard & his wife Elisabeth Dame de Pont-Rohard (-29 Dec after 1267).  A charter dated Feb 1242 records that Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et Pierre de Boueli chevalier son frère” had sold “leur ville de Combles” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and that “Mahaut femme du châtelain de Lille” had renounced her claim to dower over the town[587].  She married secondly ([Dec 1244/1245]) as his second wife, Robert [II] de Wavrin Sénéchal de Flandre.  “Robert de Wavring sénéchal de Flandre” declared having paid “la dette du châtelain”, with the consent of “Mahaut sa femme veuve de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et des enfans de ladite Mahaut”, by charter dated 1245[588].  Heiress of Molembeek, Pont-Rohart.  Iehans castellains de Lille chevaliers...et Mehaus me feme” donated property “fief...[de] me...mere Mehaus feme monseigneur Robiert de Varwin le senescal de Flandres” to Marciennes by charter dated Mar 1267[589].  The necrology of Pontrohart abbey records the death “IV Kal Jan” of “Mathildis castellanæ Insulensis dominæ Ponterohardi et de Molembeka...filiæ...Willermi de Bethunia domini de Ponterohardi, necnon eiusdem uxoris...Elizabeth dominæ de Ponterohardi fundatorum ecclesiæ nostræ” and the donation made by “Rogerii filii sui militis domini de Ponterohardi[590]

Jean [II] & his wife had [six] children: 

1.         [son Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne” promised to marry “son fils aîné quand il sera en âge” to “la fille aînée de Robert sénéchal de Flandre quand elle sera en âge”, and to give “le manoir de Sainghin ou d’Erkinghem ou celui du Plouich” to his son before the marriage, by charter dated Feb 1241[591].  It is not known whether this son was the same person as Jean [III] de Lille who is named below.  Betrothed (Feb 1241) to --- de Wavrin, daughter of ROBERT [II] de Wavrin & his first wife Eustachie de Châtillon.] 

2.         JEAN [III] de Lille (-[1276/Jun 1277])Châtelain de Lille.  Châtelain de Péronne, which he sold to Guillaume de Longueval, who resold it to Louis IX King of France: “Johannes castellanus Insulensis” acknowledged having sold “castellaniam Peronensem” to “domino Guillelmo de Longavalle militi”, who resold it to the king of France, and having received the sale price, by charter dated 29 Aug 1267[592].  “Iehans castellains de Lille chevaliers...et Mehaus de Mortaigne se femme” acknowledged that “Rogiers nos...freres” had donated property to Phalempin by charter dated 28 Oct 1267[593].  “...Johannes castellanus Insulensis...” was named among the knights who swore allegiance to Guy Count of Flanders in 1275[594]m MATHILDE de Mortagne, daughter of ARNAUD de Mortagne Châtelain de Tournai & his wife Yolande de Coucy (-1311).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “primogenita...filia...domini Arnulfi de Mortania, Mathildis” married “castellano Insulensi” by whom she had “plures...filios et duas filias, quorum primogenitus Joannes” succeeded his father and married “[filiam] domini Joannis de Nigella[595].  “Iehans castellains de Lille chevaliers...et Mehaus de Mortaigne se femme” acknowledged that “Rogiers nos...freres” had donated property to Phalempin by charter dated 28 Oct 1267[596]Mahaut châtelaine de Lille et Jean châtelain de Lille son fils” acknowledged a debt to Guy Count of Flanders under their guarantee given for “Jakemon de Landas bourgeois de Douai” by charter dated Jun 1277[597]Jean [III] & his wife had three children: 

a)         JEAN [IV] de Lille (-before Jun 1292)The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “primogenita...filia...domini Arnulfi de Mortania, Mathildis” married “castellano Insulensi” by whom she had “plures...filios et duas filias, quorum primogenitus Joannes” succeeded his father and married “[filiam] domini Joannis de Nigella[598]Châtelain de Lille: Mahaut châtelaine de Lille et Jean châtelain de Lille son fils” acknowledged a debt to Guy Count of Flanders under their guarantee given for “Jakemon de Landas bourgeois de Douai” by charter dated Jun 1277[599]Jean châtelain de Lille” sold property to Lille Saint-Pierre, which could use any property to pay dower to “Béatrix sa femme” if he predeceased her, by charter dated Mar 1284[600]m (before Nov 1279) BEATRIX de Clermont, daughter of SIMON [II] de Clermont Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Adela de Montfort (-14 Aug, after 12 Mar 1293).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “primogenita...filia...domini Arnulfi de Mortania, Mathildis” married “castellano Insulensi” by whom she had “plures...filios et duas filias, quorum primogenitus Joannes” succeeded his father and married “[filiam] domini Joannis [error for Simonis] de Nigella[601].  “Jean Châtelain de Lille” declared that, if “Béatrix sa femme” claimed dower from revenue at Wattignies which he had sold to Lille Saint-Pierre, the chapter could pay from other revenue by charter dated Nov 1279[602].  “Beatris de Neele chastellaine de Lille” acknowledged receiving“le tière de le conté à Hierlies” on behalf of her son from his great-aunt by charter dated 12 Mar 1292 (O.S.)[603].  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “XIX Kal Sep” of “dominæ Beatricis de Nigella quondam castellanæ Insulensis[604].  Jean [IV] & his wife had [four] children: 

i)          JEAN [V] de Lille (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  Châtelain de Lille, presumably under the guardianship of his maternal uncles: “Raoul de Clermont connétable de France et seigneur de Nesle et Willaume de Mortagne seigneur de Rumes et de Dossemez” consented to “Jean châtelain de Lille leur neveu” paying money to Bois de Beaulieu abbey where “Maire sœur dudit Jean” was a nun, by charter dated Jun 1292[605].  “Jean châtelain de Lille écuyer” ratified a sale of property to Lille Saint-Pierre made by “Simon de Marchenelles écuyer” by charter dated Jul 1299[606].  Goethals-Vercruysse and Voisin record that “le châtelain de Lille” fought at Courtrai in the battalion led by [his matrernal uncle] “[le] connétable Rodolphe de Nesle” and in a later passage name “Jean IV châtelain de Lille” among those who were killed in the battle[607].  The Chronica of Gilles li Muisis names “castellanus Insulensis” among those who were killed at Courtrai[608].  A Chronique Anonyme of the war between the king of France and the count of Flanders  names “li castelains de Lille” among those who were killed at Courtrai[609].  The Chronique Artésienne records “li castelains de Lille” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai 11 Jul 1302[610].  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “V Id Jul” of “Joannis castellani de Insula filii Joannis castellani et Beatricis de Nigella[611]

ii)         [SIMON de Lille (-11 May ----, young).  Vander Haer names “Simon de Lille mort jeune et Guyotte chastelaine apres luy et son heritiere universelle” as the children of Jean Châtelain de Lille who was killed at Courtrai[612].  He cites no primary source on which he bases the information, which is clearly garbled as Guyotte was the daughter of Jean [IV] whereas Jean [V] was killed at Courtrai.  It should be noted that the name “Simon” was used in the family of the wife of Jean [IV].  The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the death “V Id Mai” of “Symonis de Insula filii Johannis castellani de Insula[613].] 

iii)        GUYOTTE de Lille ([1275]-7 Aug 1337, bur Abbaye de Phalempin)Wallerans de Luxelbourch sires de Ligny et castelains de Lille” notified the payment of a debt by charter dated 5 Nov 1305[614].  “Wallerans de Lussenbourc sires de Ligny et castelaine de Lille et Guiote damoisiele et castelaine” donated property to Cambrai by charter dated 1 May 1310[615]The necrology of Lille Saint-Pierre records the names “VII Kal Feb” of “domini Walerani de Luxembourg, domini de Ligny et Guyote uxoris eius castulanæ Insulensis et Jeannis filiis eorum[616]Guyotte dame de Ligny et châtelaine de Lille” founded at chapel at Neuville, Phalempin, for the souls of “feus Jean son père, de Beatrix de Nesle sa mère, de Mahaut son aïeule” and also for the souls of “Wallerand de Luxembourg son mari et de Jean son fils”, by charter dated Mar 1336[617]An inscription in the chapel of Saint-Jean-l’Evangéliste at Phalempin records the death 7 Aug 1337 of dame Guyote dame de Ligny chastelaine de Lille[618].  "Iehans de Luxembourg chastelains de Lille et sire de Roussy", by charter dated 15 Jan 1347, notified letters issued by “nostre...pere monseigneur Walerand de Luxembourg seigneur de Liney et de feu nostre...mere Guyote...chastelaine de Lille[619]m (before 5 Nov 1305) WALERAN [II] de Luxembourg Seigneur de Ligny, de Beauvoir et de Roussy, son of WALERAN [I] de Luxembourg Seigneur de Ligny & his wife Jeanne de Beauvoir Dame de Beauvoir (-after 1 Nov 1352, bur Notre-Dame de Cambrai). 

iv)       MAIRE de Lille (-after Mar 1320).  Nun at Bois de Beaulieu abbey: Raoul de Clermont connétable de France et seigneur de Nesle et Willaume de Mortagne seigneur de Rumes et de Dossemez” consented to “Jean châtelain de Lille leur neveu” paying money to Bois de Beaulieu abbey where “Maire sœur dudit Jean” was a nun, by charter dated Jun 1292[620].  “Wallerand de Luxembourg sire de Ligny et Guyotte châtelaine de Lille” noted revenue payable to “leur sœur Maire de Lille religieuse en [l’abbaye de Beaulieu]” by charter dated Mar 1319 (V.S.)[621]

b)         ROGER de Lille (-[23 Sep 1303/5 Nov 1305]).  Châtelain de Lille: a list of expenses for boarding at Bruges dated 6 Aug 1302 names “Rogier le castelain de Lille[622].  The signatories of the peace signed 23 Sep 1303 between Philippe IV King of France and the Flemish includes “Roger châtelain de Lille chevalier[623]

c)         THOMAS de Lille (-after Feb 1282).  He is named “Jean châtelain de Lille et Mahaut châtelaine de Lille pour...Thomassin leur fils ou de leur quatrième fils qui ne seroit pas clerc si Thomas venoit à mourir” in his marriage contract dated Jul 1275[624].  The charter dated Feb 1282 quoted below records that Thomas later refused to marry his betrothed and the settlement of the dispute which followed.  Betrothed (Jul 1275, contract broken before Feb 1282) to KATHARINA van Maldegem, daughter of FILIP [II] Heer van Maldegem & his wife Isabelle van Belje (-after Feb 1282).  The marriage contract between “Jean châtelain de Lille et Mahaut châtelaine de Lille pour...Thomassin leur fils ou de leur quatrième fils qui ne seroit pas clerc si Thomas venoit à mourir” and “Jean de Ghistielle Sgr. de Fourmesielle et de le Wastine et les communs amis de Cath. fille cadette de feu Mgr. Philippon de Maldenghien” is dated Jul 1275, and provides for inheritance by “demoiselle Agnès sœur de ladite Cath...suivant le consentement des avoués [tuteurs] de Phil. de Maldenghiem son frère[625].  A charter dated Feb 1282 records that Thomas later refused to marry his betrothed, noting that the couple “n’étoient pas en âge” at the date of the earlier contract, and the settlement of the dispute which followed, guaranteed for Thomas by “Willaume de Flandre fils du Comte, Jean de Beaumont son neveu, messire Thomas de Mortaigne et messire Willaume de Mortaigne son frère” and for Katharina by “messire Jean de Ghistielles, messire Roger son frère, et le Sire de Maldeghem frère de ladite Catherine[626]

3.         ROGER de Lille (-after 28 Oct 1267).  Iehans castellains de Lille chevaliers...et Mehaus de Mortaigne se femme” acknowledged that “Rogiers nos...freres” had donated property to Phalempin by charter dated 28 Oct 1267[627]

4.         ISABELLE de Lille (-after 15 Feb 1267).  Arnols sires de Mortaigne et castelains de Tornai” agreed to reimburse “mon...cousin monsengeur Bauduin segneur de Commines” for payments he made to “les enfans Mehaut castelainne de Lile et de Péronne...asavoir Isabel et Mehaut” by charter dated 23 Mar 1255[628].  “Isabeau de Lille sœur du châtelain de Lille” acknowledged that “Jean Cordieles” had received money owed him by the countess of Flanders by charter dated 15 Feb 1267[629].  A charter dated 23 Oct 1270 confirmed that the sums donated under the charter dated Mar 1254 had been bequeathed to Isabelle and Mathilde by “li castelains Jehans pères le castelain et les demizieles devant dites[630]

5.         MATHILDE de Lille (-after 12 Mar 1293)Arnols sires de Mortaigne et castelains de Tornai” agreed to reimburse “mon...cousin monsengeur Bauduin segneur de Commines” for payments he made to “les enfans Mehaut castelainne de Lile et de Péronne...asavoir Isabel et Mehaut” by charter dated 23 Mar 1255[631].  A charter dated 23 Oct 1270 confirmed that the sums donated under the charter dated Mar 1254 had been bequeathed to Isabelle and Mathilde by “li castelains Jehans pères le castelain et les demizieles devant dites[632].  Guy Count of Flanders confirmed that “damoiselle Mehaut jadis fille au chastellain de Lille et de Piéronne” acknowledged a debt due to her (“le tière de le conté à Hierlies”) from “mes...frères Jehans de boine memoire jadis chastellains de Lille...pour le raison de men mariage”, that “mes...niés Jehans de boine mémore jadis chastellains de Lille et fius aisnés à men...frère” had requested not to alienate the sum, and that now she granted it to “Jehan chastellain de Lille”, by charter dated 12 Mar 1292 (O.S.)[633].  [Mathilde’s supposed marriage is uncertain.  Goethals names “Mathilde...de Lille fille de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et de Mahaut de Bethune” as the wife of Robert de Wavrin Seigneur de Saint-Venant[634].  He cites no source which confirms this information, and, in light of the discussion about Robert’s mother (see the Wavrin section of the present document), one wonders whether Goethals speculated on this marriage in order to justify his position on that question.  None of the sources quoted above name Mathilde as Robert’s wife, and Brassart makes the additional point that Mathilde would have been called “dame” not “demoiselle” in the 12 Mar 1292 (O.S.) charter if she had been married (a point which is debatable)[635]. In conclusion, it is probably safer to consider this marriage as speculative unless further sources emerge to throw new light on the matter.  m [as his second wife,] ROBERT de Wavrin Seigneur de Saint-Venant, son of ROBERT [II] de Wavrin & his [first wife Eustachie de Châtillon/second wife Mathilde de Béthune] (-[1308]).] 

6.         SIBYLLE de Lille (-after 1304)Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 10 Dec 1294 under which [her husband] “Jehans de Gavre sires de Hérimes” acknowledged that “medamoisièle Mehaus de Lille” donated dowry to “Sébile se suer me...compaigne...en aidwe de son mariage”, that he had received the money from “noble dame Béatris de Neele castellaine de Lille”, by charter dated 10 Dec 1294[636]m as his second wife, JAN van Gavre Seigneur de Hérimez, son of ARNOUT van Gavre Heer van Impeghem & his second wife Marguerite --- ([1245/50]-killed in battle Furnes 20 Aug 1297). 

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de COMINES

 

 

1.         ALARD de Comines (-after May 1047).  “…Alardi de Cominiis…” subscribed the charter dated May 1047 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed the possessions of Marciennes abbey[637]

 

2.         BOUCHARD de Comines (-after 13 Sep 1083).  "…Bochardi de Commines…" signed the charter dated 13 Sep 1083 under which Gérard Bishop of Cambrai donated "Altare de Huneghem" to Gand Saint-Pierre[638]

 

3.         WALKER [Gauthier?] de Comines (-after 1096).  "…Walkerus de Cumines…" subscribed the charter dated 1096 under which Robert II Count of Flanders donated property to Lille Saint-Pierre[639]

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         --- .  m ---.  Two children: 

a)         GUILLAUME de Comines (-after 1163).  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed an exchange of property between the monks of Bas-Warneton and "Balduinum de Comminis" by charter dated 1138, witnessed by "Willelmus frater Balduini, Sygerus patruus eius..."[640].  “Whillelmus et Balduinus de Comines” subscribed the charter dated 1163 which records a donation to Marchiennes[641]

b)         BAUDOUIN [I] de Comines (-after 1163).  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed an exchange of property between the monks of Bas-Warneton and "Balduinum de Comminis" by charter dated 1138, witnessed by "Willelmus frater Balduini, Sygerus patruus eius..."[642].  “Whillelmus et Balduinus de Comines” subscribed the charter dated 1163 which records a donation to Marchiennes[643]

2.         SIGER (-after 1138).  Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed an exchange of property between the monks of Bas-Warneton and "Balduinum de Comminis" by charter dated 1138, witnessed by "Willelmus frater Balduini, Sygerus patruus eius..."[644]

 

 

 

1.         BAUDOUIN [II] de Comines (-1218)Seigneur de CominesBalduinus de Comminis cum Beatrice uxore mea” granted privileges at Comines to Nonnenbossche abbey by charter dated 1196[645].  Baudouin IX Count of Flanders confirmed donations to the church of Harlebeek made by "Rogerus Curtracensis castellanus", for the soul of "patris sui Rogeri quondam…castellani" by charter dated 1198, signed by "…Sigeri Gandensis castellani, Theoderici de Beverna, Rogeri castellani Curtracensis, Balduini de Commines, Bernardi de Rosbais…"[646].  "Balduinus dominus de Comines…et Balduinus junior filius meus Ariensis castellanus" renounced rights over revenue from Dranoutre by charter dated 25 Jul 1200[647].  “...Balduini de Commines...” subscribed the charter dated Apr 1201 under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders donated various properties on leaving on crusade[648].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et filius meus Balduinus junior Ariensis castellanus" freed serfs and offered them to Lille Saint-Pierre by charter dated May 1209[649]m firstly BEATRIX, daughter of ---.  “Balduinus de Comminis cum Beatrice uxore mea” granted privileges at Comines to Nonnenbossche abbey by charter dated 1196[650]m secondly as her third husband, MATHILDE de Béthune, widow firstly of GAUTHIER de Bourbourg, and secondly of HUGUES de Houdain, daughter of ROBERT [V] "le Roux" Seigneur de Béthune & his wife Adelaide --- (-7 Dec 1220).  “Matildis de Hosdagnio et Balduinus de Cominis maritus meus” and “Danielem advocatum Attrebatensem et dominum Bethuniensem” divided “terra de Chockes” between them, inherited from “Aelide filia Balduini quondam comitis de Aubeni”, by charter dated Jan 1216 (O.S.), with the seal of “Mathildis domine de Hosden et castellanee de Broburg” attached[651].  Baudouin [II] & his first wife had three children: 

a)         BAUDOUIN [III] de Comines (-[Jan 1239/1240]).  Châtelain d’Aire: "Balduinus dominus de Comines…et Balduinus junior filius meus Ariensis castellanus" renounced rights over revenue from Dranoutre by charter dated 25 Jul 1200[652].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et filius meus Balduinus junior Ariensis castellanus" freed serfs and offered them to Lille Saint-Pierre by charter dated May 1209[653]Seigneur de Comines.  "Balduinus dominus de Comines" acknowledged a sale of property to Saint-Bertin by "Balduinus de Meternes et Elizabeth uxor eius, filia cognate mei Gilleberti de Wartenbeke", confirming an earlier transaction involving property which "domina Agnes mater predicte Elisabeth, ex dono predicti Gilleberti olim mariti suiet tunc temporis vir suus Hugo de Bakelrod" had bequeathed to "dicto Balduino de Meternes et uxori suo", by charter dated 31 Mar 1213[654].  Châtelain d’Aire.  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et castellanus Ariensis" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "uxore mea Gertrude et filio meo primogenito Balduino", by charter dated Jun 1218, witnessed by "Willelmo fratre meo, prepositi Casletensi…"[655].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "Gertrude uxore mea", by charter dated 1219, witnessed by "Johannes de Commines frater meus…"[656].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin by charter dated Jun 1224, which names "Willelmi prepositi Casletensis et Johannis militis, fratrum meorum, et Balduini junioris filii mei"[657].  "Balduinus dominus de Comines et Balduinus filius meus primogenitus" recognised the right of Lille Saint-Pierre to build a mill at Wevicq by charter dated 22 Feb 1225[658].  “Bauduin seigneur de Comines et Gertrude son épouse” donated land at Bas-Warneton to the Templars at Ypres by charter dated Jan 1239 (N.S.), confirmed May 1239 by “Bauduin le jeune fils aîné de Bauduin de Comines, et J. son épouse[659]m GERTRUDE, daughter of --- (-after Jan 1239).  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et castellanus Ariensis" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "uxore mea Gertrude et filio meo primogenito Balduino", by charter dated Jun 1218, witnessed by "Willelmo fratre meo, prepositi Casletensi…"[660].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "Gertrude uxore mea", by charter dated 1219, witnessed by "Johannes de Commines frater meus…"[661].  “Bauduin seigneur de Comines et Gertrude son épouse” donated land at Bas-Warneton to the Templars at Ypres by charter dated Jan 1239 (N.S.), confirmed May 1239 by “Bauduin le jeune fils aîné de Bauduin de Comines, et J. son épouse[662].  Baudouin [III] & his wife had children: 

i)          BAUDOUIN [IV] de Comines (-after Jan 1258).  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et castellanus Ariensis" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "uxore mea Gertrude et filio meo primogenito Balduino", by charter dated Jun 1218[663]Seigneur de CominesBauduin sire de Comines chevalier, sa fille femme dudit Gérard, Bauduin chevalier damoiseau de Comines et fils de Bauduin…” sealed the charter dated Nov 1240 under which “Gérard sire de Waudripont chevalier” granted rights to the inhabitants of Renaix[664]

-         see below

b)         GUILLAUME (-after Jun 1224).  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et castellanus Ariensis" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "uxore mea Gertrude et filio meo primogenito Balduino", by charter dated Jun 1218, witnessed by "Willelmo fratre meo, prepositi Casletensi…"[665].  Provost of Cassel.  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin by charter dated Jun 1224, which names "Willelmi prepositi Casletensis et Johannis militis, fratrum meorum, et Balduini junioris filii mei"[666]

c)         JEAN (-after Jun 1224).  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "Gertrude uxore mea", by charter dated 1219, witnessed by "Johannes de Commines frater meus…"[667].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin by charter dated Jun 1224, which names "Willelmi prepositi Casletensis et Johannis militis, fratrum meorum, et Balduini junioris filii mei"[668]

 

 

BAUDOUIN [IV] de Comines, son of BAUDOUIN [III] Seigneur de Comines & his wife Gertrude --- (-after Jan 1258).  "Balduinus dominus de Commines et castellanus Ariensis" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "uxore mea Gertrude et filio meo primogenito Balduino", by charter dated Jun 1218, witnessed by "Willelmo fratre meo, prepositi Casletensi…"[669].  "Balduinus dominus de Commines" confirmed a donation to Saint-Bertin by charter dated Jun 1224, which names "Willelmi prepositi Casletensis et Johannis militis, fratrum meorum, et Balduini junioris filii mei"[670].  "Balduinus dominus de Comines et Balduinus filius meus primogenitus" recognised the right of Lille Saint-Pierre to build a mill at Wevicq by charter dated 22 Feb 1225[671].  “Bauduin seigneur de Comines et Gertrude son épouse” donated land at Bas-Warneton to the Templars at Ypres by charter dated Jan 1239 (N.S.), confirmed May 1239 by “Bauduin le jeune fils aîné de Bauduin de Comines, et J. son épouse[672]Seigneur de CominesBauduin sire de Comines chevalier, sa fille femme dudit Gérard, Bauduin chevalier damoiseau de Comines et fils de Bauduin…” sealed the charter dated Nov 1240 under which “Gérard sire de Waudripont chevalier” granted rights to the inhabitants of Renaix[673]Baudoins de Chomines li père” is named as one of the guarantors in a charter dated 29 Jan 1241 under which Thomas Count of Flanders arbitrated a dispute between “Arnoul d’Audenarde et sa fille Marie” and “Bauduin d’Aire et Marguerite châtelaine de Bailleul sa femme” concerning the marriage contract between “Jean fils du comte de Rethel et neveu de la châtelaine de Bailleul” and “Marie d’Audenarde[674].  "Balduinus miles dominus de Comines" confirmed a sale of property with a donation of revenue to Saint-Bertin by charter dated Jan 1249[675].  “Arnols sires de Mortaigne et castelains de Tornai” agreed to reimburse “mon...cousin monsengeur Bauduin segneur de Commines” for payments he made to “les enfans Mehaut castelainne de Lile et de Péronne...asavoir Isabel et Mehaut” by charter dated 23 Mar 1255[676].  "Balduinus miles dominus de Commines" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "filii mei primogeniti Balduini de Commines", by charter dated Jan 1258[677]

m firstly ADELA de Berghes, daughter of --- (-before May 1227).  Leuridan names “Adèle de Bergues dont il était veuf en 1227 et dont il eut un fils et des filles” as Baudouin’s first wife[678].  Baudouin donated property to the hospital at Comines for the anniversary of “Adèle de Bergues sa femme” by charter dated May 1227[679]

m secondly J---, daughter of ---.  “Bauduin seigneur de Comines et Gertrude son épouse” donated land at Bas-Warneton to the Templars at Ypres by charter dated Jan 1239 (N.S.), confirmed May 1239 by “Bauduin le jeune fils aîné de Bauduin de Comines, et J. son épouse[680]

Baudouin [IV] & his first wife had children: 

1.         BAUDOUIN [V] de Comines (-after 1287).  Bauduin seigneur de Comines et Gertrude son épouse” donated land at Bas-Warneton to the Templars at Ypres by charter dated Jan 1239 (N.S.), confirmed May 1239 by “Bauduin le jeune fils aîné de Bauduin de Comines, et J. son épouse[681].  "Balduinus miles dominus de Commines" donated property to Saint-Bertin, with the consent of "filii mei primogeniti Balduini de Commines", by charter dated Jan 1258[682]Seigneur de Comines.  Leuridan cites charters dated Sep 1264, Apr 1265, Aug 1267, 16 Apr 1272, May 1273, 14 Feb 1273 (O.S.), 1275, 1276, Aug 1280, Jan 1281, Mar 1281, between 13 Oct 1282 and, Feb 1285 (O.S.), and 1287 in which he was named[683]m ---.  The name of Baudouin’s wife is not known.  Baudouin [V] & his wife had children: 

a)         ALIX de Comines (-after 1 May 1306).  Baudouin de Comines approved an exchange between “Guillaume del Watine” and the hospital of Comines, naming “Alix...sa fille aînée”, by charter dated Mar 1281[684].  Père Anselme records her parentage (naming her Marie) and marriage[685].  Leuridan dates her marriage to “avant 1272[686].  “Aalis de Coumines dame de Wasiers, fame jadis men segneur Herlin de Waisiers, qui fu” confirmed a May 1272 charter in favour of Vaucelles by charter dated 14 Aug 1303, in the presence of “...Maalin men fil...[687].  Alix Dame de Waziers issued a document dated 1 May 1306 in favour of “les échevins de Douai[688]m (before 1272) HELIE [III] de Waziers Seigneur de Waziers, son of --- (-before 1286). 

2.         --- (-after Nov 1240).  “Bauduin sire de Comines chevalier, sa fille femme dudit Gérard, Bauduin chevalier damoiseau de Comines et fils de Bauduin…” sealed the charter dated Nov 1240 under which “Gérard sire de Waudripont chevalier” granted rights to the inhabitants of Renaix[689]m GERARD Seigneur de Waudripont, son of --- (-after Nov 1240). 

 

 

HELIE [III] de Waziers, son of --- (-before 1286).  Seigneur de Waziers.  Brassart records that “le connétable de Flandre” acted as “baux et comme co-héritier du jeune Hellin de Waziers” in [1260][690].  King Philippe III’s convocation for military service in 1272 in Vermandois includes “Helinus de Wrasieres armiger[691]

m (before 1272) ALIX de Comines, daughter of BAUDOUIN [V] Seigneur de Comines & his wife --- (-after 1 May 1306).  Baudouin de Comines approved an exchange between “Guillaume del Watine” and the hospital of Comines, naming “Alix...sa fille aînée”, by charter dated Mar 1281[692].  Père Anselme records her parentage (naming her Marie) and marriage[693].  Leuridan dates her marriage to “avant 1272[694].  “Aalis de Coumines dame de Wasiers, fame jadis men segneur Herlin de Waisiers, qui fu” confirmed a May 1272 charter in favour of Vaucelles by charter dated 14 Aug 1303, in the presence of “...Maalin men fil...[695].  Alix Dame de Waziers issued a document dated 1 May 1306 in favour of “les échevins de Douai[696]

Hélie [III] & his wife had [six] children: 

1.         HELIE [IV] de Waziers (-after 20 Jan 1319).  Seigneur de Heudincourt: “messire Hellin de Wasiers sire de Heudincourt” was named in a charter dated 10 Apr 1301 (O.S.)[697].  “Hellins de Wasiers sires de Heudicourt chrs” confirmed letters issued by “men...pere mon seigneur Hellin de Wasiers jadis seigneur de Heudincourt” relating to the May 1272 agreement with Vaucelles by charter dated Aug 1303[698]Seigneur de Comines: “Hellins de Wasiers sires de Commines et de Heudincourt chevaliers” was named in a charter dated 1309[699].  By charter dated Aug 1315, Louis X King of France confirmed Miraumont, granted by King Philippe IV to reward services in the war against Flanders, to “Helluinem de Waseriis militem” who sold it to Arras Notre-Dame by charter datd 20 Jan 1318 (O.S.)[700].  m ---.  The name of Hélie’s wife is not known.  Hélie [IV] & his wife had two children: 

a)         HELIE [V] de Waziers (-after 29 May 1350, maybe [17 May 1354/1357]).  Hélie and his sister Alix were named in their father’s 20 Jan 1318 (O.S.) charter cited above[701]Seigneur de Comines, de Heudincourt et de Waziers. 

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b)         ALIX de Waziers (-after 20 Jan 1319).  Hélie and his sister Alix were named in their father’s 20 Jan 1318 (O.S.) charter cited above[702]

2.         ROBERT de Waziers (-[Jun 1301/1309]).  Seigneur de Comines: he succeeded his maternal grandfather in 1281[703].  “Robert de Wasiers signeur de Commines” was named in a charter dated 17 Apr 1298[704].  “Me sires Robiers de Wasiers sires de Commines” was named in a charter dated Jun 1301[705].  He died before 1309, presumably without heirs, when his brother was named as seigneur de Comines as shown above. 

3.         MAELIN de Waziers (-after 14 Aug 1303).  “Aalis de Coumines dame de Wasiers, fame jadis men segneur Herlin de Waisiers, qui fu” confirmed a May 1272 charter in favour of Vaucelles by charter dated 14 Aug 1303, in the presence of “...Mailini filii dicte domine...[706]

4.         [JEAN de Waziers (-after 1326).  Seigneur de Waziers (part).  Brassart suggests his parentage, noting charters dated 1313 and 1326 in which he was named[707].  m MARGUERITE de Lalaing, daughter of --- (-[1344).  Brassart records her family origin and marriage, noting that she died “vers 1344[708]

5.         [NICOLAS [Colart] de Waziers (-after 5 Mar 1328).  Seigneur de Linselles et de Blaton.  Brassart suggests his parentage, noting his charter dated 5 Mar 1327 (O.S.) confirming arrangements with Marquette relating to land “tenue de mi...de Blaton, gisans en le parroche de Commines”, sealed by “Colart de Wasiers chr[709]m --- Dame d’Esvin, daughter of ---.  “Me dame d’Esvin vesve de feu monsr Nicole de Wasiers” confirmed “comme baulx de sa fille...un fief mouvant du château de Lens” by charter dated 1348[710].  Nicolas & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEANNE de Waziers (-[1399]).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage[711].  She was under age, but not named, in her mother’s 1348 charter cited above.  Louis II Count of Flanders converted revenue “en une rente viagère aux deux vies” in favour of “messire Joosse de Hallewin...[et] sa femme dame Jehane fille et hoir de messire Nicole de Wasieres” by charter dated 12 Apr 1360[712].  “Noble dame madame de Wasiers, dame de Hemserode et d’Esvin” bought “le viage d’un fief sis à Esvin, relevant de Lens” from “noble dame madame de Bondues” by charter dated 1390[713].  “Pierre de Belleval écuyer, mari et bail de dame Gille de Miraumont et noble dame madame Jehane de Wasiers, vesve de feu monsr de Flequieres” swore homage for “le fied d’Esvin, délaissé par feue noble dame madame d’Esvin” by charter dated 1399[714]m (before 12 Apr 1360) JOSSE d’Halluin Heer van Heemsrode, son of --- (-[10 Mar 1387/1390]). 

6.         --- de Waziers .  Brassart suggests her parentage and marriage, noting that in 1301 her husband held a fief from Hélie [IV] seigneur de Heudincourt who had granted the land on marrying his sister[715]m FLORENT de Saint-Ylier, son of --- (-after 1301). 

 

 

HELIE [V] de Waziers, son of HELIE [IV] de Waziers Seigneur de Comines et de Heudincourt & his wife --- (-after 29 May 1350, maybe [17 May 1354/1357]).  Hélie and his sister Alix were named in their father’s 20 Jan 1318 (O.S.) charter cited above[716]Seigneur de Comines, de Heudincourt et de Waziers.  Brassart says that Hélie [V] “florissait en 1345” (no source cited)[717].  Together with other nobles in the châtellenie de Lille, Hélie de Waziers challenged “la coutume des arsins”, a privilege held by Lille town, which was rejectd by the Parlement de Paris 29 May 1350[718].  [It is not certain whether the following document refers to Hélie [V] or Hélie [VI]: a charter dated 17 May 1354 records an agreement between “Hellin de Waziers seigneur de Comines et de Heudincourt et mgr Alard de Limbicque chevalier” and “les échevins de Comines” concerning “[le] tonlieu et [le] vinage en la ville de Comines[719].] 

m AGNES de Barbançon, daughter of JEAN [II] Seigneur de Barbançon & his wife Eustachie de Dargies.  Brassart records her parentage and marriage (no source cited)[720].  Hélie de Waziers declared that, after the death of “son beau-père Jean de Barbançon”, he acquired “le dixième d’un franc-alleu situé à Merbes-le-Château”, by charter dated Apr 1339[721]

Hélie [V] & his wife had one child: 

1.         HELIE [VI] de Waziers (-5 Apr 1411).  Brassart records his parentage and date of death (no sources cited)[722]Seigneur de Comines, de Heudincourt et de Waziers.  [It is not certain whether the following document refers to Hélie [V] or Hélie [VI]: a charter dated 17 May 1354 records an agreement between “Hellin de Waziers seigneur de Comines et de Heudincourt et mgr Alard de Limbicque chevalier” and “les échevins de Comines” concerning “[le] tonlieu et [le] vinage en la ville de Comines[723].]  A charter dated 1357 names “De noble homme, messire Hues, seigneur de Villers et Hulluc, de messire Hellin de Waziers, de messire Robert de Montegny en Ostrevant, de messire Jean dit Noiseux seigneurs de Gheuselin, chevaliers[724].  Hélie de Waziers granted privileges “aux drapiers, tisserands et foulons de la ville de Comines” by charter dated 29 Sep 1359, approved Oct 1361 by Jean II King of France, recorded in a vidimus dated 7 Oct 1361[725].  Brassart records his death 5 Apr 1411 (no source cited)[726].  A manuscript records that “Monseigneur Herlin, à son temps sire de Waziers, de Heudicourt et de Comines” died “le jour de Pasques flories” 1411[727]m firstly (1348) BEATRIX d’Aveluis [Villers?], daughter of --- Seigneur d’Aveluis [Villers?] & his wife --- de Sombreffe.  Brassart records her parentage and marriage date, noting that she brought him “la terre d’Hennin-Liétard en partie, relevant de Lens[728]m secondly JEANNE de Berghes, daughter of GILBERT de Berghe & his wife ---.  Brassart records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[729].  Hélie [VI] & his first wife had three children: 

a)         MARIE de Waziers (-[1413]).  Brassart records her parentage and two marriages (no sources cited)[730].  Heiress of Waziers and Hénin-Liétard (part).  Brassart records her death “vers 1413”[731]m firstly JEAN de la Hamaide, son of --- (-after 1385).  Jean de la Hamaide and “François de Noefville dit de Matringhehen écuyer” swore homage “comme baux de sa femme” for “la terre et pairie d’Hulluch, mouvant de Lens et provenue de feu noble homme monsr de Villers” by charter dated 1385[732]m secondly (1398) BRIFFAULT de Sorel, son of ---. 

b)         JEANNE de Waziers ([1350/55?]-after 1404).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage (no source cited)[733].  The information is confirmed by the 23 Apr 1382 document cited under his sister Catherine which names “monsr. Colart de Le Clite seigneur de Comines, oncle desdis enffans“, referring to Catherine’s children.  Her date of birth is suggested from the date of her parents’ marriage.  Dame de Comines.  Goethals incorrectly suggests that Jeanne married secondly “Josse de Halewyn seigneur d’Hemsrode” [see above for his marriage with Jeanne’s cousin Jeanne][734]m COLARD de la Clyte Seigneur de Renescure et du Til, son of COLARD de la Clyte Seigneur de Neufcourt & his wife Pasquette Dame de Renescure [Ruyschuere] (-[1389/1404]).  Goethals records his parentage, noting that he was “lieutenant-général du comte Louis de Flandre, durant son absence de 1370 à 1372, maître d’hôtel de Philippe duc de Bourgogne, gouverneur de Lille en 1374 et 1375, bailli de Bruges en 1389[735]

c)         CATHERINE de Waziers (-Douai Oct 1428, bur Douai Saint-Pierre).  Brassart records her parentage and two marriages, noting that she was named as a widow in 1407 (no source cited)[736].  “Noble demiselle Caterinne de Wasiers” and “les tuteurs de Jeanne et Marguerite Pourchel, ses enfants mineurs” reached agreement [presumably on her dower, not specified in the summary], with the consent of “monsr. de Wasiers et de Heudincourt pere de ledite demiselle e taïon desdis enffants, monsr de Villers et de Huluch [alias monsr. d’Aveluis] et monsr. Colart de Le Clite seigneur de Comines, oncle desdis enffans“, by charter dated 23 Apr 1382[737].  Her testament dated 4 and 27 Sep 1428, published 3 Nov 1428, chose burial in “l’église Saint-Pierre, sa paroisse[738]m firstly (before 1379) AMAURY Pourchet Seigneur de Frémicourt, son of RICART Seigneur de Frémicourt [Governor of Flandre wallonne 1364] & his wife Marie de Wastines (-before 23 Apr 1382).  m secondly GAUTHIER de Vertaing Seigneur d’Aubigny [au Bac-les-Douai], son of --- (-1407 or before). 

Hélie [VI] & his second wife had two children: 

d)         HELIE [VII] de Waziers .  Brassart records his parentage, suggesting that he predeceased his father (no sources cited)[739]m CATHERINE Malet, daughter of GILLE Malet Seigneur de Villepescle, Châtelain de Pont-Saint-Maxence, Vicomte de Corbeil, Seigneur de Soisy & his wife Nicole de Chambly.  Brassart records her parentage and marriage, her father’s death in 1410, her mother’s mention as a widow in 1411, and noting that “Gilet Malet, valet de chambre de Charles V” inventoried la bibliothèque royale in 1373[740]

-        SEIGNEURS de WAZIERS[741]

e)         JEANNE de Waziers (-after 1399).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage, noting that her husband was named in 1377, that she was named as a widow in 1391, and that in 1399 she swore homage for “la terre d’Esvin, mouvant de Lens et provenant de la feue dame d’Esvin” [see above for a reference to “Esvin”: the wife of Nicolas [Colart] de Waziers][742]m THOMAS de Bauffremez Seigneur de Fléquières, son of --- (-[1377/91]). 

 

 

1.         COLARD de la Clyte .  Seigneur de Neufcourt.  Père Anselme records that “Colart de la Clite seigneur de Renscent” walled the town of Nieuport in 1353[743].  Anselme refers to Colard’s son, but the date suggests that it relates to his father.  m PASQUETTE Dame de Renescure [Ruyschuere], daughter of ---.  Goethals records her family origin and marriage[744].  However, Maurice records the arms of her grandson Jean de Comines as “La Clite; Mortagne; Wazières; Avelus[745].  The apparent discrepancy between “Renescure” and “Mortagne” has not been explained, unless the seigneurs de Renescure belonged to a younger branch of the seigneurs de Mortagne.  Colard & his wife had one child: 

a)         COLARD de la Clyte (-[27 Apr 1396/1404]).  Goethals records his parentage, noting that he was “lieutenant-général du comte Louis de Flandre, durant son absence de 1370 à 1372, maître d’hôtel de Philippe duc de Bourgogne, gouverneur de Lille en 1374 et 1375, bailli de Bruges en 1389[746]Seigneur de Renescure et du Til.  Père Anselme records that “Colart de la Clite seigneur de Renscent” walled the town of Nieuport in 1353, was lieutenant-général of Louis II Count of Flanders 1370-1372, maître d’hôtel of Philippe II Duke of Burgundy 1389, bailli and governor of Cassel, later Lille[747].  “Pieres de le Zipe sires de Denterghem chevalier...” declared that the proxy of “Colart de le Clite chevalier sires de Commines” had renounced an appeal from a judgment in favour of Saint-Bertin by charter dated 27 Apr 1396[748].  Leuridan says that Colard died “vers 1404” (no source cited)[749]m JEANNE de Waziers, daughter of HELIE [VI] de Waziers Seigneur de Comines, de Heudincourt et de Waziers & his first wife Béatrix d’Aveluis ([1350/55?]-after 1404).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage (no source cited)[750].  The information is confirmed by the 23 Apr 1382 document cited under his sister Catherine which names “monsr. Colart de Le Clite seigneur de Comines, oncle desdis enffans“, referring to Catherine’s children.  Her date of birth is suggested from the date of her parents’ marriage.  Dame de Comines.  Goethals incorrectly suggests that Jeanne married secondly “Josse de Halewyn seigneur d’Hemsrode” [see above for his marriage with Jeanne’s cousin Jeanne][751].  Colard & his wife had six children:

i)          LOUIS de Comines (-young).  Leuridan records his parentage (no source cited)[752]

ii)         GUILLAUME de Comines (-1437).  Leuridan records his parentage, noting he was firstly canon at Lille Saint-Pierre (no source cited)[753].  The necrology of Tournai records the death “XI Kal Jan” 1437 of “Wilhermus de Comines prepositus Casletensis, hujus ecclesie canonicus[754]

iii)        JEAN de Comines (-13 May [1443 or 1448], bur Comines).  Leuridan records his parentage, noting that he was named “chevalier bachelier parmi les gentilshommes que le duc de Bourgogne avait mandé à Paris, pour se garantir des hostilités du duc d’Orléans” Nov 1409[755].  A muster list of Jan van Gistel Heer van Gistel dated Sep 1410 names “escuiers...Jehan de la Clite...Tristan de Commines...[756]Seigneur de Comines.  A charter dated 12 Jan 1417 (N.S.) names “Johannes de Clite dominus de Comines, Willelmus de Haelwijne dominus de Uutkercke et de Bucgenhout milites...[757].  Leuridan records other details of  his career between 1414 and 11 Dec 1440, noting the Annales religieuses de Comines which record his death 13 May 1443[758].  The Mausolée de la Toison d’Or records his death in 1445[759].  An epitaph at Comines records his death 13 May 1448[760]: the difference between 1443 and 1448 could be a transcription error, misreading “3” for “8”  m firstly JOHANNA van Gistel, daughter of JAN [VI] Heer van Gistel & his second wife Jeanne de Châtillon (-9 Oct 1431, bur Comines).  Limburg-Stirum records her parentage and marriage[761].  Epitaphs at Commines church record the burial of “Jean de la Clyte chevalier seigneur de Commines” who died 13 May 1443 and of “Jeanne de Ghistelles” who died 9 Oct 1431[762].  An epitaph at Comines records her death 1431[763].  “Ysabel dame de Guistelle, de Vendueil, d’Englemonstier et vicontesse de Meaulx” and her sons-in-law and daughters agreed the succession of “feus de nobles memoires monseigneur de Guistelle nostre pere et messire Louys de Guistelle son fils nostre frere”, granting revenue “sur le grand tonlieu de Bruges” to “la Dame de Hezewic nostre seur...messire Henry de Diest...le seigneur de Herzebecq...à cause de feuë sa femme nostre seur...le seigneur de Commines à cause de feuë sa femme nostre seur...la dame de Gasebec nostre seur...”, by charter dated 13 Feb 1434 (O.S.?)[764]m secondly (after [Jun] 1436) as her second husband, JEANNE de Preures, widow of JEAN Seigneur de Fosseux, daughter of --- (-after 3 Mar 1453).  “Jean de Fosseux” offered “un gobelet d’argent doré, armoié des armes” to “sa femme, Jeanne de Preures” by charter dated 29 Oct 1435[765].  A charter dated 14 Apr 1442 records a dispute between “Filips van Montmorency heer van Croisilles”, as proxy for his brother “Jan van Montmorency” as guardian of his children by “wijlen Jeanne de Fosseux”, and “ridder Jan heer van Komen”, as husband of “vrauwe Jehane van Peuere, douairière van het land van Nevele en grootmoeder van de kinderen[766].  A charter dated 17 Jun 1450 records a dispute between “Jan van Montmorency heer van het land van Nevele” and “Jan de Latere”, representing “de weduwe van heer Jan van Komen” concerning her land “en de heerlijkheid van Nevele[767].  "Madame Jeanne de Preure iadis femme de defunct monsieur Jean en son vivant seigneur de Fosseux, dame de Preure et de Fosseux", having bought “le droit de quint…és les terres de Fosseux, Barly et Auteuille” from “monsieur Philippe de Fosseux dit le Borgne chevalier seigneur de Bouberch sur Canche et de Marconuelle...Jaques de Fosseux son frere”, donated “ledit quint” to “Loys de Montmorency son nepueu fil maisné de monseigneur de Montmorency et de defunte madame Jeanne de Fosseux qui fut sa femme et fille de ladite dame”, by charter dated 1 Aug 1450[768].  By letters dated 3 Mar 1452 (O.S.), at Aire "en la maison et hostel de...Madame Jeanne de Preure iadis femme de feu monsieur Jehan seigneur de Fosseux et dernierement veuve de feu Monsieur de Commines", “madame Bonne de Fosseux dame de Dommart et de Classy fille dudit feu monsieur de Fosseux et de ladite madame Jehanne de Preule” and “Loys de Mommorency seigenur de Fosseux...” agreed on the future succession of “ladite madame Jeanne de Preure de present moult anchienne”, respecting the agreement made with “monseigneur Jehan seigneur de Commines...depuis le trespas de monseigneur de Commines son pere[769].  Jean & his first wife had one child: 

(a)       JEAN de Comines (-Gent Apr 1475, bur Comines).  His parentage is confirmed by the epitaph of his daughter, cited below, which displays her quarters “Comines; Ghistelle”.  Seigneur de Comines.  A charter dated 1449 names “Jehan seigneur de Commines...[770].  An epitaph at Comines records the burial of “Jan de Comines, fils de Jan, en son vivant, signeur du dit lieu” who died at Gent Apr 1475, recording the quarters “Comines; Wazières; Ghistelles; Chastillon[771]m JEANNE d’Estouteville, daughter of GUILLAUME d’Estouteville Seigneur de Torcy, de Blainville et de Beine & his wife Jeanne Dame de Doudeauville [Bois/Fiennes] (-after 5 Sep 1476, bur Bruges).  Henry VI King of England soy disant Roy de France” granted their father’s lands to “Jean d’Estouteville escuyer…pour et au nom de luy et de Estot, Robert, Michele et Jeannette d’Estouteville ses freres et seurs mainsnez de luy, tous enfans legitimes de Guillaume d’Estouteville chevalier n’agaire Seigneur de Torcy et de Jeanne de Dondeauville sa femme[772]Europäische Stammtafeln records her parentage with the dates “1427/1449”[773].  The marriage contract between Jean de Comines and Jeannette d’Estouteville, dated 4 Jul 1444, names her parents Guillaume d’Estouteville and Jeanne de Doudeauville, and her grandparents Jean de Doudeauville and Jeanne de Créquy[774]Her family origin is confirmed by the epitaph of her daughter which displays her quarters “...Touteville; Fiennes”.  The reference to “Fiennes” may cause confusion: Leuridan says that Jeanne could not have been the daughter of “Jean d’Estouteville seigneur de Torcy” and his wife “Jeanne de Fiennes” [the only known possible Estouteville/Fiennes connection until now] who lived “un siècle plutôt[775].  The solution is the descent of Jeanne’s mother from a younger branch of the Fiennes family (see the document NORMANDY NOBILITY-AVRANCHES, BAYEUX, COTENTIN).  Europäische Stammtafeln records Jeanne as the daughter of Estout d’Estouteville Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Charlit, son of Guillaume d’Estouteville Seigneur de Torcy et de Blainville (which is impossible chronologically, see above), recording her testament dated 5 Sep 1476 and her place of burial[776].  Jean & his wife had one child: 

(1)       JEANNE de la Clyte ([Comines] [after 1444]-[27 Mar] [1512/13], bur Comines)Père Anselme records her parentage, titles, marriage, date of death and place of burial (no sources cited)[777].  Leuridan records her birth in 1440 “au château de Comines” (no source cited)[778], the date being inconsistent with her parents’ marriage contract.  A charter dated [1475] names “madame Jeanne de Commynes dame de Hallewin...weduwe van de heer van Halewijn[779]Dame de Comines Vicomtesse de NieuportAn epitaph at Comines records the burial of “dame Jenne de Comines vefve de feu...Jean sr de Halewijn et de Lauwe, dame d’honneur de madame Marie duchesse de Bourgne, contesse de Flandres” who died 1512 (O.S.?) “le jour de la resurrection[780].  Another record of her epitaph at Comines records her quarters “Comines; Ghistelles; Touteville; Fiennes[781]m JEAN d’Halluin Seigneur d’Halluin, son of GAUTHIER Seigneur d’Halluin & his wife Jacqueline van Visch Dame de la Chapelle (-1473). 

iv)       CATHERINE de Comines .  Leuridan records her parentage, adding “dont on ne connaît pas la destinée” (no source cited)[782]

v)        MARIE de Comines (-Lille [1393/99]).  Leuridan suggests that “Marie de Comines...dicte morte par le faict d’aucuns habitans à Lille” in accounts at Lille dated 1393/1399 was another daughter of Colard de la Clyte[783]

vi)       MARGUERITE de la Clyte (-10 Jun 1455, bur Maldegem).  Père Anselme names her “Marguerite de Pruines, fille de Colart seigneur de Pruines[784].  Poswick names her “Marguerite de Comines” (no source cited)[785]An epitaph at Maldegem records the burial of “mer Roelandt van Uutkercke ruddere en medebroeder van Gulde Vliese...heere van Hemstrode, Heersteert ende van der Hoijzenbourg...” who died 22 Apr 1442 and “vrau Janne van Comene, ghesellenede van mer Roeland van Uutkercke voors.” who died 14--, another manuscript recording the same epitaph calls her “vrouwe Marguerite van Comines” with a commentary recording that she was “sœur de Jean seigneur de Comines chevalier de l’ordre et fille de Colard et de Jeanne de Vasières dame de Commines” with quarters “La Clyte; Mortagne; Wasières; Avelus[786].  Another transcription of the same epitaph records the burial of “Margarita van Commines Vrouwe van Heestert ende Hemsrode, mynheer Roelant van Wtkercke weife was” who died 1414 [date incorrect][787].  A charter dated 28 Aug 1417 names “vrouwe Margriete van den Clite vrouwe van Heestert ende Hoesselghem[788].  A charter dated 27 Jun 1442 names “vrauwe Mergriete van Comene, vrauwe van Eestert ende van Heymsroden, weduwe van ridder Roeland van Uutkerke[789].  A charter dated 21 Aug 1444 names “vrauwe Mergriete van Comene vrauwe van Heestert ende van Hemsrode[790].  Charters dated 18 May and 10 Jun 1455 name “vrauwe Margriete van Comen vrouwe van Heestert, weduwe van Roeland van Uutkerke[791]m ROLAND [Olivier?] d’Halluin Heer van Heemsrode, son of ROLAND d’Halluin Seigneur d’Halluin & his wife Margareta van de Aa (-22 Apr 1442, bur Maldegem). 

 

 

In addition to the six children named above, Leuridan records the following three persons as other children of Colard de la Clyte and his wife Jeanne de Waziers (no sources cited)[792].  From a chronological point of view, this suggested parentage seems unlikely to be correct as the sources cited below suggest their births in [1410/20] which is many years after Colard and Jeanne de Waziers were last recorded.  It seems more likely that these four siblings were younger children of Jean de Comines and his first wife Johanna van Gistel.  It should be noted that the 5 Jun 1442 charter cited below confirms that two of these persons, Colard and Philippa, were siblings. 

 

1.         COLARD de la Clyte de Comines (-[1 Mar 1454/12 Aug 1456], bur Renescure)Seigneur de Renescure.  “messire Colard de Commines” was named in documents dated early 1422 and 21 Aug 1422, “Colard van Commynes her van Renescure en Watten baljuw van Gent” between 5 Jul 1431 and 2 Oct 1435, “Colard d la Clite ridder heer van Renescure en Watten, souverein-baljuw van Vlaanderen” from 2 Oct 1435 to 1 Mar 1454[793].  Seigneur de Saint-Venant: Père Anselme records that Jeanne de Nesle Dame de Saint-Venant (see the document PARIS REGION NOBILITY-CLERMONT, DAMMARTIN) and her third husband sold Saint-Venant to “Colart de Commines, en reservant l’usufruit à Leonel bâtard de Neelle” (undated, no source citation)[794].  An epitaph at Renescure records the burial of “messire Collart de Comines seigneur de Renescure et de Saint-Venant en son temps souverain bailly de Flandres” who died 11 Jun 1451 [date incorrect] and “madame Marguerite de Trasengis dame Dernue en son vivante femme...de messire Collart” who died 12 Oct 1447[795].  Charters dated 12 Aug and 30 Oct 1456 name “edelen ende weerden mer Colaerde van Comene rudder” and “wijlen zijn weduwe Catharina van Haveskerke[796]m firstly ([1436/40?]) MARGARETA van Arnemuiden, daughter of GILLIS [III] Heer van Arnemuiden & his wife Margareta van Visch dite de la Capelle (-12 Oct 1447, bur Renescure).  Chantelauze names her “Marguerite d’Armuyden” (no parents named) and records her date of death (incidentally reversing the order of Colard’s marriages)[797].  Her marriage is dated to [1436/40?] considering the marriage contract of her older sister dated 12 Feb 1436.  An epitaph at Renescure records the burial of “messire Collart de Comines seigneur de Renescure et de Saint-Venant en son temps souverain bailly de Flandres” who died 11 Jun 1451 [date incorrect] and “madame Marguerite de Trasengis dame Dernue en son vivante femme...de messire Collart” who died 12 Oct 1447[798]m secondly CATHARINA van Haveskerke, daughter of --- (-before 12 Aug 1456).  Charters dated 12 Aug and 30 Oct 1456 name “edelen ende weerden mer Colaerde van Comene rudder” and “wijlen zijn weduwe Catharina van Haveskerke[799].  Colard & his first wife had one child: 

a)         PHILIPPE de Comines (-Argenton 18 Oct 1511).  Seigneur d’Argenton et de Talmond.  Author of the Mémoire chronicling the reigns of Louis XI and Charles VIII Kings of France.  Fierville records his date of death[800]m (contract 27 Jan 1473) HELENE de Chambes-Montsoreau, daughter of JEAN de Chambes & his wife Jeanne Chabot Dame de Montsoreau.  Fierville records her parentage and marriage contract dated 27 Jan 1472 (O.S.), as well as the background to the disputed succession to Argenton which eventually passed to Philippe de Comines[801].  Philippe & his wife had one child: 

i)          JEANNE de Comines ([1489/90]-19 Mar 1514, bur Paris église des Augustins).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[802].  Fierville says that Jeanne was 14 years old when she married[803]m (contract 13 Aug 1504) as his first wife, RENE de Brosse dit de Bretagne Comte de Penthièvre, son of JEAN de Brosse dit de Bretagne Comte de Penthièvre & his wife Louise de Laval (-killed in battle Pavia 24 Feb 1525). 

2.         JEANNE de la Clyte dite de Comines (-1441 or after)Père Anselme records her family origin and marriage, noting her testament dated 1441 and death childless[804].  Leuridan, recording Jeanne as the daughter of Colard de la Clyte and his wife Jeanne de Waziers,  names her husband “Guillebert de Saint-Omer Seigneur de Piennes” (no source cited)[805]m as his first wife, JOSSE d’Halluin Seigneur de Piennes, son of JEAN Seigneur d’Halluin & his wife Jacqueline van Gistel Vrouw van Lanwe (-24 Sep 1472, bur Piennes-lez-Castel). 

3.         PHILIPPA de Comines (-after 22 Mar 1455)A charter dated 5 Jun 1442 names “edle heere mer Colaert van Komen heer van Ruesschuere” and “Ghilain van Halewijn heer van Buggenhout, names zijn echtgenote die de zuster is van Colard van Komen[806].  A charter dated 22 Mar 1455 (N.S.) names “vrauwe Philippa van Comene weduwe van Gelein van Halewijn heer van Buggenhout[807]m GHISLAIN d’Halluin Heer van Buggenhout, son of JEAN Seigneur d’Halluin & his wife Jacqueline van Gistel Vrouw van Lanwe (-before 22 Mar 1455). 

 

 

The parentage of the following person has not been ascertained. 

 

1.         MARIE de la Clyte dite de Comines .  Père Anselme records “Gilles seigneur de Nedonchel” and “Marie de la Clite dite de Comines”, as parents of “Jeanne de Nedonchel…heritiere” who married “Andrieu ou Drieux seigneur d’Humieres et de Bouzincourt” who was named in 1445 and died 1458[808]m GILLES Seigneur de Nedonchel, son of ---. 

 

 

 

C.      SEIGNEURS d’HALLUIN [HALEWIJN]

 

 

Halluin (Halewijn in Flemish) is located in the present-day French département Nord, arrondissement Lille, on the border with Belgium.  In medieval times, the members of the Halluin family were associated with the county of Flanders.  The Halluin reconstruction is fraught with difficulty: what follows should not be considered the final answer.  The outline provided by Père Anselme appears unreliable, at least so far as the earlier generations are concerned.  Buylaert provides numerous extracts of charters in which family members are named, but many of these persons have not been connected to the main family lines as will be seen below.  Buylaert’s extracts have been incorporated only until the early 15th century: thereafter, the repetition of names, only in some cases associated with the fiefs held by different branches, render it difficult to connect these references to known members of the family with certainty. 

 

 

1.         GAUTHIER [I] d’Halluin (-after [1299/1300]).  Père Anselme records “Waultier seigneur de Hallwin et de Rosbeck, vicomte d’Harlebeck” living in 1296 (no sources cited)[809]Seigneur d’Halluin et de Roosebeke [Rosebeke/Rozebeke], Burggraaf van Harelbeke.  “Messire Wautiers de Haluin ridder” was named in 1299/1300[810].  [m as her first husband, MARIE van Rasebeck, daughter  of ---.  Père Anselme names “Marie de Rasebeck” as wife of “Waultier seigneur de Hallwin et de Rosbeck, vicomte d’Harlebeck”, noting her second marriage to “N. châtelain de Courtray, dont elle était veuve en 1315[811].  No primary sources have been identified which corroborate her family origin and two marriages.  If Père Anselme is correct, maybe her second husband was Robert de Mortagne Heer van Nevele: Robert’s father was recorded as châtelain de Courtrai, and the chronology fits, especially Robert’s early death which would explain the absence of other references to him.] 

 

2.         JEAN [I] d’Halluin (-after 4 Oct 1308).  A charter dated 4 Oct 1308 names “mon signeur Jehan de le Wastine, Jehan de Halewine[812].  Père Anselme does not name him. 

 

3.         ROGER [I] d’Halluin (-[1331/32?]).  “Rogero de Halewin ridder” witnessed a charter dated 12 Jun 1330[813].  A list of chevaliers bacheliers in Flanders dated 1331 names “monseigneur Rogier d’Aluym[814].  Père Anselme records Roger as the son of Gauthier [i], noting that he was deceased in 1332 (no sources cited)[815].  [m JEANNE de Mauleberg Dame de Gavre, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme records her family origin and marriage (no sources cited)[816].] 

 

4.         OLIVIER d’Halluin (-1304, bur Harelbeke).  Père Anselme records Olivier as the son of Roger [I] (no sources cited)[817], which seems unlikely if his supposed grandfather was Gauthier [I].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke.  Père Anselme records his date of death and place of burial (no sources cited)[818].  [m AGNES de Schomberghe, daughter of --- (-1309, bur Harelbeke).  Père Anselme records her family origin, marriage, date of death, and place of burial (no sources cited)[819].] 

 

5.         [GILLES d’Halluin (-after 1314).  Père Anselme records Gilles as the son of Olivier, noting that he was living in 1314 (no sources cited)[820].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke.] 

 

6.         GAUTHIER [II] d’Halluin (-after 27 Sep 1340, bur Harelbeke).  Père Anselme records Gauthier [II] as the son of Gilles (no sources cited)[821].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke.  Kervyn de Lettenhove’s commentary on Froissart’s chronicles records the muster list of combattants at “la bataille de monseigneur Loys conte de Flandres, de Nevers et de Rethel...à Aire et à Bapaumes”, from 26 Mar to 27 Sep 1340, which includes “chevaliers bacheliers de la conté de Flandres...Gautier de Hallewin...”, a later passage recording payments made to him[822].  Père Anselme records his death in 1338 (incorrect) and place of burial (no sources cited)[823]m ANNE van Reigaarsvliet, daughter of --- (-1340, bur Harelbeke).  An anonymous author records her family origin and marriage[824].  Père Anselme records her date of death and place of burial (no sources cited)[825].  Père Anselme records her date of death and place of burial (no sources cited)[826].  Gauthier [II] & his wife had two children: 

a)         DANIEL d’Halluin (-after 1379).  Père Anselme records his parentage and death in 1365 (no sources cited)[827].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke. 

-        see below

b)         GAUTHIER d’Halluin (-11 Aug 1384, bur Tournai Augustins).  The anonymous author records his parentage, date of death, and place of burial (no sources cited)[828].  [A list of nobles in Flanders dated 1362-63 names “van de kasselrij Oudenaarde...messire Joos de Halewijn” and “van de kasselrij Kortrijk...le seigneur de Halewijn...messire Daniel, Jehan, et Gauthier de Halewijn chevaliers[829].  It is not whether the last named was this Gauthier.]  Heer van Roosebeke: a charter dated 1366 names “min here Joos van Haelwine ende min vrouwe sin wijf...min heere van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Roesbeke” as fiefholders from Courtrai, “mer Joos van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Oudenaarde, “mer Tristram van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from “Uutkerke”, and “mer Olivier van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Bruges[830].  Accounts dated 1380-81, relating to the visit of Louis II Count of Flanders to Gent, name “messire Josse et Daniel de Halewin” and “messire Wautier et a messire Willame de Halewin[831].  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[832]m --- (-bur Tournai Augustins).  An anonymous author records her place of burial but not her name (no sources cited)[833].  Gauthier & his wife had one child: 

i)          --- d’Halluin .  The anonymous author records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[834]m FILIPS van Artevelde, son of --- (-after 1382).    

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         GAUTHIER [III] d’Halluin (-beheaded Courtrai 24 Dec 1351).  [Was he the same person as Gauthier [II] who is named above?]  Seigneur d’Halluin.  Buylaert records that “Wouter van Halewijn” and “Alard van Spiere” were beheaded in 1351[835].  “La chronique” records that “van tyrannie van den heere van Halewyn en syn broere d’heere van Spiere” were beheaded at Courtrai in 1351[836].  An epitaph at Halluin [Halewijn] records the burial of “Wautier chlr sr de Halewijn...hardij chevalereulx et fidel” who died 24 Dec 1351[837]same person as...?  GAUTHIER d’Halluin .  Père Anselme names Gauthier “seigneur de Hallwin et de Gavre, chevalier” as son of Jacques [I] & his wife “Marie de Lichtervel, dame du Moulinet” (no sources cited)[838].  [m firstly ALIX de Stavele Dame d’Olequin, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme names her as Gauthier’s first wife (no sources cited)[839]m secondly JEANNE d’Ottignies, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme names her as Gauthier’s second wife (no sources cited)[840].] 

2.         ALARD d’Espierres [van Spiere] (-beheaded Courtrai 24 Dec 1351).  “La chronique” records that “van tyrannie van den heere van Halewyn en syn broere d’heere van Spiere” were beheaded at Courtrai in 1351[841]

 

 

DANIEL d’Halluin, son of GAUTHIER [II] d’Halluin Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke & his wife Anne van Reigaarsvliet (-after 1379).  Père Anselme records his parentage and death in 1365 (incorrect date if his mention in 1379 is correctly reported below) (no sources cited)[842].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke.  The anonymous author records that his son Gauthier “se trouva, avec son père, assiégé dans Audenaerde en 1379” (no sources cited)[843]

m [firstly] [KATHARINA van Uitkerke, daughter of daughter of WILLEM van Uitkerke Heer van Zuwenkerke & his wife ---.  The anonymous author records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[844].]  Père Anselme does not show this supposed first marriage, although the date of death of Daniel’s daughter Marie suggests that she would have been born from an earlier marriage.  The primary source which confirms the name of Daniel’s first wife has not been identified. 

[m secondly CATHERINE de Luxembourg, daughter of JEAN de Luxembourg Seigneur de Beaurevoir & his wife Alix de Flandre (after 1330-1366).  Père Anselme records her parentage, marriage, and death in 1366 (no sources cited)[845].  The anonymous author (suggesting that she was the daughter of Waléran de Luxembourg & his wife Guyotte de Lille) indicates that this marriage was suggested because her husband’s descendants “ont rompu leurs armes d’un écusson de Luxembourg au cœur sans les burelles” and that, if it is correct, Catherine must have been Daniel’s second wife (no sources cited)[846].  The reference to the Luxembourg arms presumably relates to the epitaph of Jacques d’Halluin, great-great grandson of Daniel d’Halluin, named below.  No primary source has been found which confirms her parentage and marriage. 

Daniel & his [first] wife had one child: 

1.         MARIE d’Halluin (-1363).  Père Anselme records her parentage (born to Catherine de Luxembourg, he says) and death in 1363 (no sources cited)[847].  Her marriage and date of death suggests that Marie was born from her father’s [first] marriage.  m JAN Vanspeill Heer van de Vichte, son of ---. 

Daniel & his [first/second] wife had children (Père Anselme records other children whose existence has not been verified[848]): 

2.         GAUTHIER d’Halluin (-[after 15 Dec 1391?]).  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke.  The anonymous author records that Gauthier “se trouva, avec son père, assiégé dans Audenaerde en 1379”, and predeceased his father (no sources cited)[849].  The latter comment appears to be incorrect assuming that the following references all apply to this Gauthier.  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[850].  “...Wautier sire de Halewin...” signed the peace of Tournai 18 Dec 1385[851].  A charter dated 15 Dec 1391 names “heeren...mer Woutren heere van Aelwine...ruddren” and “Watiers sires de Hallewin et de Watervliet...chevaliers[852]m MARIA [Margareta?] van ‘s Grans, daughter of WILLEM van ‘s Grans Seigneur d’Inchove & his wife Ida van Steenhuize-Zwevegem (-1395).  “Gautier de Halewyn dit de Roosebeke chevalier, écoutète d’Harelbeke”, son of “Daniel de Halewyn chevalier seigneur de Roosebeke”, married “Marguerite fille héritière de Jean ‘s Grans seigneur d’Inchove et d’Ide fille de Gérard de Steenhuyze chevalier seigneur de Zweveghem” (no sources cited)[853].  Père Anselme records her death in 1395 (no sources cited)[854].  The Halewijn/’s Grans marriage is confirmed by a 1384 charter which names “joncvrauwe Marie sGrands uxor mer Wouters van Halewijn” as a fiefholder from Bruges, Buylaert noting that after her death it was held successively “Jan van Halewijn van Roesbeke...Rogier van Halewijn[855].  Gauthier & his wife had children (Père Anselme records another child whose existence has not been verified[856]): 

a)         JEAN d’Halluin (-killed in battle 1425, bur Haarlem).  A 1384 charter which names “joncvrauwe Marie sGrands uxor mer Wouters van Halewijn” as a fiefholder from Bruges, Buylaert noting that after her death it was held successively “Jan van Halewijn van Roesbeke...Rogier van Halewijn[857].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke.  Seigneur d’Inchove (inherited from his mother).  Heer van Zwevegem: “Gheeraert van Steenhuus her van Zweveghem” [Gerard [III], Jean’s maternal relation, see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY] sold his “heerschip en seingerie van Zweveghem”, held from “de heer van Gistel”, with another fief “gheheeten de cossaterie”, to “Janne van Haelwine heer van Roosbecque en Inchout” by charter dated 16 Mar 1414 (O.S.?), sealed by “Gerard van Steenhuse[858].  Père Anselme records his death and place of burial (no sources cited)[859]m (after 1396) as her second husband, MARIE [Isabelle?] van Gistel Vrouw van Zwevegem, widow of LOUIS bâtard de Flandre Heer van Praet, daughter of ROGER van Gistel Heer van Straeten & his wife Elisabeth [Margareta] Vrouw van Dudzele (-after 1431).  Père Anselme records her parentage (naming her “Marie”) and two marriages (reversing their order) (no sources cited)[860].  Espinoy records that Louis II Count of Flanders “en avancement de son mariage avec Dame Marie de Guistelles, Dame de Zweueghem et de Rosebeke” granted “les terres et Baronies de Praet et de la Woestine” to his illegitimate son “Messire Louys de Flandres dit le Frizon” (no source cited)[861].  Vredius quotes a manuscript recording that “messire Loys de Frise fils bastard de...Loys de Male conte de Flandre...” married “madame...de Ghistelles...fille de messire --- Seigneur de Dudzeele” who later married “--- de Halewijn[862].  Vredius quotes another manuscript which records that Louis married “dame Marie de Guistelles fille de messire Rogier chevalier seign. de Dudzeele, Straten et de Dame Isabeau heretiere de Dudzeele[863].  Her family origin is confirmed by the arms displayed on the epitaph of her granddaughter (by her second marriage) Isabelle.  Some doubt about Marie’s name is introduced by the charter dated 25 Apr 1435 which names “Pierre de Boulers escuier”, married to “Margaretha van Halewijn, de oudste dochter van Jan van Halewijn en Isabella van Gistel[864].  No “Jean d’Halluin” married to “Isabella van Gistel” has been found.  If Marguerite’s father was Jean d’Halluin Seigneur de Roosebeke, maybe his wife was named “isabelle” not “Marie” (that name being recorded only in secondary sources as noted above).  An indication that this suggestion about Marguerite’s parentage is correct is that “Marie van Gistel”’s son by her first husband married “Johanna van Reigaarsvliet”, presumably a relative of Marguerite’s husband although the precise family relationship has not been established (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY), as multiple marriages between different members of two noble families are often noted.  Espinoy records that “messire Jean de Flandre...avec...sa mere Dame de Zweueghem et de Roosebeke” settled the succession of “messire Louys son pere en son vivant Seigneur de Praet et de la Woestine” and settled her dower, recorded in a document dated 1431[865]. This document does not name “Marie/Isabelle” but it does provide another indication that she was the mother of Marguerite d’Halluin : her second husband died before 1431, indicating the need to settle her dower.  Jean & his wife had [four] children: 

i)          ROGER de Halluin (-1463).  A 1384 charter which names “joncvrauwe Marie sGrands uxor mer Wouters van Halewijn” as a fiefholder from Bruges, Buylaert noting that after her death it was held successively “Jan van Halewijn van Roesbeke...Rogier van Halewijn[866].  Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke. 

-         see below

ii)         [MARGUERITE d’Halluin (-after 25 Apr 1435).  A charter dated 25 Apr 1435 names Pierre de Boulers escuier”, married to “Margaretha van Halewijn, de oudste dochter van Jan van Halewijn en Isabella van Gistel[867]No “Jean d’Halluin” married to “Isabella van Gistel” has been found.  Maybe Marguerite’s father was Jean d’Halluin Seigneur de Roosebeke whose wife was named in various secondary as “Marie van Gistel”.  Maybe “Marie” was an error for “Isabelle”, as discussed above.  m PIETER van Reigarsvliet Heer van Boelare, son of LODEWIJK van Reigaarsvliet Heer van Boelare & his wife Isabelle de Fosseux (-1466).] 

iii)        [MARGUERITE] d’Halluin (-12 Apr 1470, bur Bouvignies).  The anonymous author records her name, parentage, marriage, and the dates of death and places of burial of the couple (no sources cited)[868].  If Marguerite, wife of Pieter van Reigaarsvliet, was the daughter of Jean d’Halluin Seigneur de Roosebeke as suggested above, maybe the wife of Jacques d’Ollehain was not named Marguerite.  Vrouw van Desselghem.  m JACQUES d’Ollehain Seigneur d’Estambourg, de Bouvignies et de Gondecourt, son of --- (-6 Aug 1483, bur Bouvignies). 

iv)       GUILLEMETTE d’Halluin .  The anonymous author records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[869]m JEAN Seigneur de Léaucourt, son of ---. 

 

 

ROGER de Halluin, son of JEAN d’Halluin Seigneur de Roosebeke, Burggraaf van Harelbeke & his wife Marie van Gistel Vrouw van Zwevegem (-1463).  A 1384 charter which names “joncvrauwe Marie sGrands uxor mer Wouters van Halewijn” as a fiefholder from Bruges, Buylaert noting that after her death it was held successively “Jan van Halewijn van Roesbeke...Rogier van Halewijn[870]

m CATHERINE Vilain Vrouw van Merkem, daughter of ADRIEN Vilain Seigneur de Saint-Jean-Steen & his wife Josine van Praet-Moerkerke Vrouw van Merkem (-1466).  The anonymous author records her parentage and marriage, recording in an earlier passage more details of her maternal ancestry (no sources cited)[871].  Her parentage is indicated by the quarters displayed on epitaph of her daughter Isabelle (see below). 

Roger & his wife had children (Père Anselme records other children whose existence has not been verified[872]): 

1.         JEAN d’Halluin (-1483).  Heer van Zwevegem en Merkem.  m MARIE d’Ollehain, daughter of --- d’Ollehain Heer van Berghe-Saint-Winnocq & his wife --- (-10 Feb 1502, bur Axele).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, noting that the couple died childless (no sources cited)[873].  An epitaph at Axele records the burial of “Marie van Berghen, vrau van Axele ende van Mesnil, douaigiere van Zweveghem, Merckem, Souverain-Moulin, Robeke” who died “den 10 sporckele” [Feb] 1501 (O.S.?), with her quarters “Berghen; ---; Ghistelle; Axele[874]

2.         JACQUES de Halluin (-17 Aug 1517, bur Harelbeke).  Seigneur de Roosebeke.  Heer van Zwevegem.  An epitaph at Harelbeke records the burials of “Jacobo ab Halewyn, dno à Merckem, Zweveghem, Roosebeke, Veste, Inchove, majori in Desselghem, procomiti Harelbecæ et Margaretæ filiæ Balduini, dni ab Ongnies, Watene etc...eius conjugi” who died 17 Aug 1517 and 15 May 1524 respectively[875].  The epitaph shows “seize quartiers. A droite: 1. Halewyn brisé de Luxembourg au cœur, 2....’s Grans, 3. Ghistelles, 4....Zele [Dudzele], 5. Villain, 6...Gavre, 7. Moerkeke...8. Belle...A gauche: 1. Ongnies, 2. Molenbais, 3...4...5, Déchanté...6...7. Halewyn, 8. Ghistelles[876]m MARGUERITE d’Ongnies, daughter of BAUDOUIN Seigneur d’Ongnies & his wife Marie van den Eeckhoute (-1524, bur Harelbeke).  The epitaph at Harelbeke cited above records her burial with her husband. 

-        HEREN van ROOSEBEKE en ZWEVEGEM[877]

3.         ISABELLE d’Halluin (-17 Mar 1526, bur Ypres Onse Vrauw).  An epitaph at Ypres hospital Onse Vrauwe records the burial of “damle Isabelle de Halewijn fille aisnée de Rogier de Halewijn sr de Zweveghem, Roosbeke, Desselghem et de Merckem” who died 17 Mar 1526, displaying the quarters “Halewyn; Ghistelles (brisé de Luxembourg, au 1er quartier); Vilain; Moerkerke[878]

 

 

The following branch of the Halluin family held Lichtervelde.  The primary sources which confirm their relationships have not been found.  As noted below, there is considerable uncertainty with the suggestions made by both Père Anselme and Butkens, shown below, which remain uncorroborated.  Until more reliable information comes to light, the members of this branch are shown below unconnected.  Lichtervelde eventually passed to the Nevele family with the marriage of Wilhelmine d’Halluin and Willem [III] van Nevele which is shown below. 

 

1.         JACQUES [I] d’Halluin .  Père Anselme records Jacques as the younger son of Roger [I], without dates (no sources cited)[879].  Seigneur de Halluin et du Gavre.  [m MARIE van Lichtervelde Dame du Moulinet, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme names her “Marie de Lichtervel, dame du Moulinet” (no sources cited)[880].  Butkens records “Marie de Lichtervelde, morte en 1270, sœur de Roger Sire de Lichtervelde, qui vivoit encore en 1276” (citing “l’Espinoy, pag. 127”) as the wife of Jacques d’Helluin[881].  Butkens’s dates are wrong if her husband was the son of Roger [I], whose death is dated to [1331/32?] as indicated above.  Père Anselme’s indication of Hugues d’Halluin and his wife “Marie de Lichtervel, dame du Moulinet” (see below) suggests some confusion: maybe this wife of Jacques [I] never existed. 

 

2.         HUGUES d’Halluin .  Père Anselme names Hugues “seigneur du Moulinet” as son of Jacques [I] & his wife “Marie de Lichtervel, dame du Moulinet” (no sources cited)[882]m MARIE van Lichtervelde Dame du Moulinet, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme names Hugues “seigneur du Moulinet” as son of Jacques [I] & his wife “Marie de Lichtervel, dame du Moulinet” (no sources cited)[883]

 

3.         DANIEL d’Halluin (-after 8 Feb 1355).  Père Anselme names “Daniel de Hallwin seirneur de Lichterwelde et du Moulinet” as son of Hugues, noting that he was “mis hors de page par ses pere et mere l’an 1347, est employé en qualité d’écuyer, avec trois autres dans le 3e compte de Jean de l’Hôpital” and “clerc des arbalestriers” from 1 Jan 1354 to 8 Feb 1355 (no sources cited)[884]

 

4.         GERARD d’Halluin ([1355/65?]-before 1389).  Père Anselme records Gerard as the son of Daniel d’Halluin, named above (no sources cited)[885].  Buylaert records “Daniel van Halewijn burggraaf van Harelbeke” as Gerard’s father[886], although Harelbeke was held by another branch of the Halluin family (see above).  The primary source which confirms that this is correct has not been identified.  From a chronological point of view, the suggestion seems stretched if Daniel was last named in 1355, as indicated above, and considering Gerard’s wife’s date of death, which suggests her birth in the late 1360s and her husband’s birth a few years earlier.  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[887].  Heer van Lichtervelde.  “Gherard van Halewin heer van Lichtervelde en Spiere en zijn vrouw Agnes de Mortaigne” granted a fief “en le port de Warscote en la chastellerie de Gand” to “Henry de Mortaigne, oom van Agnes” by charter dated 1386, witnessed by “Gherard de Steenhuise snr Desquevvinghien[888]m (before 1386) as her first husband, AGNES de Mortagne, daughter of ALARD [II] de Mortagne Seigneur d’Espierres & his wife --- ([1365/70?]-1438).  She is named with her husband in the 1386 charter cited above.  She married secondly (18 Mar 1389) as his second wife, Jan [III] van de Aa Heer van Gruuthuse

 

5.         WILHELMINE d’Halluin ([before 1355?]-after 14 Jun 1397).  The Marquis de Trazegnies records her family origin and marriage (no sources cited)[889].  Père Anselme records “Guillemette de Hallwin dame de Lichtervelde, femme de Guillaume de Nevelle seigneur d’Ostove et de Tannecy” as daughter of Gerard and his wife Agnès de Mortagne (no sources cited)[890].  Chronologically it is more likely that Wilhelmine was Gerard’s sister, although the primary source which confirms this family relationship has not been identified.  As her son’s wife is recorded as deceased in 1394, it is unlikely that Wilhelmine was born later than [1355].  Butkens records that “Guillaume de Nevele Sire d’Oosthosen, mort vers l’an 1330” married “Willelmine de Halewin Dame de Lichtervelde, fille de Jacques Sire de Halewyn et de Marie de Lichtervelde, morte en 1270, sœur de Roger Sire de Lichtervelde, qui vivoit encore en 1276” (citing “l’Espinoy, pag. 127”)[891].  This passage is garbled: chronologically, her husband must be William [III] and her parents could not be Jacques d’Halluin & Marie van Lichtervelde.  A charter dated 2 Oct 1388 names “de vrouwe wedue ende thoir mer Willem van Nevele die men heet Gauwers[892].  A document dated 15 Dec 1391 records a court of nobles “Hendrik van Antoing heer van Haverskerke, Wouter heer van Halewijn en Watervliet, Jan van Poek, Hendrik van Spiere en Jacob van Lichtervelde” judging in favour of “mer Gerard van Steenhuze heer van Zwevegem/messire Girars de Steenhuuse” and his wife “Filippa van Nevele” concerning rights to “de heerlijkheid Oosthove te Wervik” against “Willemine van Halewijn en haar zoon Willem van Nevele[893].  Vrouw van Lichtervelde en Tannay: a charter dated 14 Jun 1397 names “Wilhelmina van Halewijn vrouwe van Lichtervelde en van Tannay weduwe van wijlen mer Willem van Nevele” and her son “William van Nevele[894]m WILLEM [III] van Nevele “Gauwers”, son of WILLEM [II] van Nevele & his wife --- (-[1366/2 Oct 1388]). 

 

 

The following branch of the Halluin family held Uitkerke and, later, Halluin itself.  Their holding Uitkerke appears consistent with Père Anselme’s indication that Hugues d’Halluin married “Isabelle de Hutequerque” as shown below.  The primary source which confirms this marriage has not been identified. 

 

1.         HUGUES d’Halluin (-after 5 Oct 1350).  Père Anselme names Hugues “seigneur de Hallwin, de Gavre, de Tronchiennes et d’Hausebeck” as son of “Gauthier seigneur de Hallwin et de Gavre, chevalier” (indicating Gauthier [III] named above?) by his first wife “Alix de Stavele dame d’Olequin” (no sources cited)[895].  A document dated 5 Aug 1350 names “Hugues de Halewin” as “baljuw van de kasselrij Sint-Winoksbergen[896].  [m ISABELLE van Uitkerke, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme names “Isabelle de Hutequerque” [presumably Uitkerke] as Hugues’s wife (no sources cited)[897].]  Hugues & his wife had [two] children:

a)         [ROLAND d’Halluin (-[before 1384?]).  Père Anselme names Roland as older son of Hugues by his wife “Isabeau de Hutequerque” (no sources cited)[898]Seigneur d’Halluin.  A charter dated 1365 names “mer Tristeram van Halewine here van Hutkerke” (see below) as a fiefholder from Bruges “van het leenhof van Veurne”, succeeded in turn by “Roeland heer van Halewine...mer Wouters van Halewine filius mins here Roelands[899].  A charter dated 1381 names “mijn her Roeland heer van Halewine” and “mer Olivier van Halewine rudder” as fiefholders from Bruges[900].  It is uncertain whether he died before 1384, the date of his son’s charter cited below.  Père Anselme says that Roland was “décapité par les mutins de Gand” (no sources cited)[901].]  m MARGARETA van de Aa, daughter of [JAN [I] van de Aa Heer van Gruuthuse] & his wife [Margareta van Dudzele/Beatrix van Grimbergen].  Père Anselme says that Roland d’Halluin married “Marguerite de Bruges, fille de Jean seigneur de la Gruthuse & de Beatrix de Grimberge” (no sources cited)[902].  The arms of “Gruuthuuse” displayed on the epitaph of her granddaughter Marguerite, see below, in the place which corresponds to her paternal grandmother, suggests that Anselme’s information is at least partially correct.  Roland & his wife had [four] children: 

i)          GAUTHIER d’Halluin (-after 1384, bur Halluin Saint-Esprit)Seigneur d’Halluin.  Heer van Uitkerke.  His parentage is indicated by a charter dated 1365 names [Gauthier’s presumed paternal uncle] “mer Tristeram van Halewine here van Hutkerke” as a fiefholder from Bruges “van het leenhof van Veurne”, succeeded in turn by “Roeland heer van Halewine...mer Wouters van Halewine filius mins here Roelands[903]

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ii)         [GUILLAUME d’Halluin (-[1400/05]).  Père Anselme names Guillaume Heer van Uitkerke as second son of Roland (no sources cited)[904].  Accounts dated 1380-81, relating to the visit of Louis II Count of Flanders to Gent, name “messire Josse et Daniel de Halewin” and “messire Wautier et a messire Willame de Halewin[905].  Heer van Uitkerke.  A charter dated 1384 names “mer Wouter van Halewine filius mijns here Roelands” as fiefholder from “de stede de Uutkerke”, succeeded “per mortem...aan mer Willem van Halewijn...mer Joosse van Halewin[906].  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[907].  A charter dated 1396 names “messire Guillaume de Haluin chevalier, bourgois de Bruges[908].  Documents dated to [1400] name “mer Willem van Haelwijn” fiefholder at Ypres (succeeded there successively by “mer Joos van Halewijne...Karle van Halewijn zijn zone...Jacob van Halewin heere van Maldeghem[909].  A document dated 1405 names “messire Guillaume de Halewin chevalier...dame Marguerite dame de Maldehem, sa fille fu adhiretee[910]m (after Aug 1379) as her second husband, MARGARETA Bonijn, widow of IWAN van Wassenaar, daughter of JAN Bonijn & his wife Gertrud van de Walle (-bur Wassenaar near Bruges).  Père Anselme names her “Marguerite Bonin, de Bruges” (no source cited)[911].  An epitaph at Wassenaar bij Bruge records the burial of “...Margriete Bonin fa s’heer Jans end merjoncvr Gheertrud vande Walle”, the commentary recording that she married “mer Iwain van Wassenare ruddere” (died 1 Aug 1379, also buried there) and secondly “mer Willem van Halewijn ruddere heere van Uutkercke” by whom she had “mer Joos, mer Guilain, ende vrau Margriete, ghesellende van mijnheere Philips ruddere heere van Maldeghem[912].  Guillaume & his wife had three children (Père Anselme records other children whose existence has not been verified[913]): 

(1)       JOSSE d’Halluin (-14 Jun 1455, bur Bruges Augustines).  Documents dated to [1400] name “mer Willem van Haelwijn” fiefholder at Ypres (succeeded there successively by “mer Joos van Halewijne...Karle van Halewijn zijn zone...Jacob van Halewin heere van Maldeghem[914].  Heer van Uitkerke: a charter dated 1384 names “mer Wouter van Halewine filius mijns here Roelands” as fiefholder from “de stede de Uutkerke”, held successively “per mortem...aan mer Willem van Halewijn...mer Joosse van Halewin[915].  An epitaph at Bruges Augustines records the burial of “meer Joos van Halewijn, fs mer Willems, heere van Uutkerke, Meessenghem, Buggenhoute, raedt en camerlinck ons gheduchs Heeren s’ hertoghen van Bourgoignen” who died 14 Jun 1455[916]

-         HEREN van UITKERKE, HEREN van MALDEGEM[917]

(2)       GUILLAUME d’Halluin .  As noted above, the commentary of the epitaph at Wassenaar bij Bruge which records the burial of “...Margriete Bonin fa s’heer Jans end merjoncvr Gheertrud vande Walle”, says that she had “mer Joos, mer Guilain, ende vrau Margriete, ghesellende van mijnheere Philips ruddere heere van Maldeghem” by her second husband[918]same person as...?  GUILLAUME d’Halluin (-after 12 Jan 1417).  Heer van Buggenout.  A charter dated 12 Jan 1417 (N.S.) names “Johannes de Clite dominus de Comines, Willelmus de Haelwijne dominus de Uutkercke et de Bucgenhout milites...[919]

(3)       MARGUERITE d’Halluin .  A document dated 1405 names “messire Guillaume de Halewin chevalier...dame Marguerite dame de Maldehem, sa fille fu adhiretee[920].  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, noting that the couple’s childless son Filip granted Maldegem to “Charles de Hallwin, son cousin issu de germain” [grandson of Josse,  named above] (no sources cited)[921]m FILIP Heer van Maldegem, son of --- (-before 26 Mar 1420). 

iii)        [ROLAND [Olivier?] d’Halluin (-22 Apr 1442, bur Maldegem).  Père Anselme names “Olivier de Hallwin seigneur d’Esrode et de Lacken” as third son of Roland d´Halluin (no sources cited)[922].  Heer van Heemsrode.  An epitaph at Maldegem records the burial of “mer Roelandt van Uutkercke ruddere en medebroeder van Gulde Vliese...heere van Hemstrode, Heersteert ende van der Hoijzenbourg...” who died 22 Apr 1442[923]m MARGUERITE de la Clyte, daughter of COLARD de la Clyte Seigneur de Renescure & his wife Jeanne de Waziers Dame de Comines (-10 Jun 1455, bur Maldegem).  Père Anselme names her “Marguerite de Pruines, fille de Colart seigneur de Pruines[924].  Poswick names her “Marguerite de Comines” (no source cited)[925]An epitaph at Maldegem records the burial of “mer Roelandt van Uutkercke ruddere en medebroeder van Gulde Vliese...heere van Hemstrode, Heersteert ende van der Hoijzenbourg...” who died 22 Apr 1442 and “vrau Janne van Comene, ghesellenede van mer Roeland van Uutkercke voors.” who died 14--, another manuscript recording the same epitaph calls her “vrouwe Marguerite van Comines” with a commentary recording that she was “sœur de Jean seigneur de Comines chevalier de l’ordre et fille de Colard et de Jeanne de Vasières dame de Commines” with quarters “La Clyte; Mortagne; Wasières; Avelus[926].  Another transcription of the same epitaph records the burial of “Margarita van Commines Vrouwe van Heestert ende Hemsrode, mynheer Roelant van Wtkercke weife was” who died 1414 [date incorrect][927].  A charter dated 28 Aug 1417 names “vrouwe Margriete van den Clite vrouwe van Heestert ende Hoesselghem[928].  A charter dated 27 Jun 1442 names “vrauwe Mergriete van Comene, vrauwe van Eestert ende van Heymsroden, weduwe van ridder Roeland van Uutkerke[929].  A charter dated 21 Aug 1444 names “vrauwe Mergriete van Comene vrauwe van Heestert ende van Hemsrode[930].  Charters dated 18 May and 10 Jun 1455 name “vrauwe Margriete van Comen vrouwe van Heestert, weduwe van Roeland van Uutkerke[931].  Roland & his wife had children (Père Anselme records other children whose existence has not been verified[932]):

(1)       JEAN d’Halluin .  Père Anselme records his parentage[933].  Heer van Heemsrode. 

-         HEREN van HEEMSRODE[934]

(2)       [JEANNE d’Halluin (-31 Dec 1467, bur Veere).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[935].  Poswick records her parentage (no source cited)[936].  The primary source which confirms her precise parentage has not been identified.  The chronology of her husband’s family suggests her marriage in [1425?].  This seems late considering the chronology of her supposed father’s family: could there be a missing generation in her Halluin ancestry?  This suggestion appears supported by the arms displayed on her epitaph, particularly “Hemstrode; Dudzeele; Maldeghem; Brabanson” attributed to her mother.  An epitaph at Ter Veere records the burial of “mijnheere Heindric van Borsele, heere van der Vere...” who died 15 Mar 1474 (O.S.?) and “vrau Johanne van Halewijn, heer Hendricx wijf was” who died 31 Dec 1467[937].  Another monument for the same couple at Zandenburg castle records her quarters “Halewijn; Uutkercke; Comines [...Mamps]. Zij brack haer waepen met Hemstrode-Capelle. Van haer moeders: Hemstrode; Dudzeele; Maldeghem; Brabanson[938], which has not been explained.  m ([1425?]) HENDRIK van Borselen Comte de Grandpré Heer van der Veere en Zandenburg, son of WOLFARD [IV] van Borselen Heer van der Veer en Zandenburg & his wife Hadewich van Borselen ([1400/05?]-15 Mar [1474], bur Veere).] 

iv)       [PERCIVAL d’Halluin .  Père Anselme names “Perceval de Hallwin seigneur de Hanaples” as fourth son of Roland d´Halluin, and notes his illegitimate son “Huës batard de Hallwin, légitimé en 1431” by “Beatrix de Rousseaulx[939].]  

b)         [TRISTAN d’Halluin (-after 21 Sep 1376).  Père Anselme names Tristan as younger son of Hugues by his wife “Isabeau de Hutequerque” [Uitkerke?] (no sources cited)[940].  Heer van Uitkerke: a charter dated 1365 names “mer Tristeram van Halewine here van Hutkerke” as a fiefholder from Bruges “van het leenhof van Veurne”, succeeded in turn by “Roeland heer van Halewine...mer Wouters van Halewine filius mins here Roelands”, “mer Olivier van Halewine rudder” also holding the same fief[941].  A charter dated 1366 names “min here Joos van Haelwine ende min vrouwe sin wijf...min heere van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Roesbeke” as fiefholders from Courtrai, “mer Joos van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Oudenaarde, “mer Tristram van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from “Uutkerke”, and “mer Olivier van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Bruges[942].  “Tristan van Halewijn heer van Uutkerke” was named as “baljuw van Aalst” from 9 May 1373 to 17 Sep 1374, as “baljuw van Ieper” 19 Sep 1374-7 Jan 1375 and 22 Sep 1375-21 Sep 1376[943]m ---.  The name of Tristan’s wife is not known.  [Père Anselme says that he married “Isabel de la Walla”, noting that he died childless, but in a later passage records “Isabeau de la Walle, fille de Jean de la Walle” as wife of [Tristan’s supposed great-nephew] Tristan d’Halluin, son of Guillaume d’Halluin Heer van Uitkerke, recording his death childless in 1418 and burial “aux Chartreux-lez-Bruges” (no sources cited)[944].]  Tristan had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress: 

i)          GUILLAUME bâtard d’Halluin (-after 1410).  A documents dated 1410 names “Guillaume filz bastardt de feu messire Tristram de Halewin jadiz chevalier bourgois de la ville d’Oudemborch[945]

 

 

GAUTHIER d’Halluin, son of ROLAND d’Halluin Seigneur d’Halluin & his wife Margareta van de Aa (-after 1384, bur Halluin Saint-Esprit)Seigneur d’Halluin.  His parentage is indicated by a charter dated 1365 which names [Gauthier’s presumed paternal uncle] “mer Tristeram van Halewine here van Hutkerke” as a fiefholder from Bruges “van het leenhof van Veurne”, succeeded in turn by “Roeland heer van Halewine...mer Wouters van Halewine filius mins here Roelands[946].  Accounts dated 1380-81, relating to the visit of Louis II Count of Flanders to Gent, name “messire Josse et Daniel de Halewin” and “messire Wautier et a messire Willame de Halewin[947].  Heer van Uitkerke: a charter dated 1384 names “mer Wouter van Halewine filius mijns here Roelands” as fiefholder from “de stede de Uutkerke”, held successively “per mortem...aan mer Willem van Halewijn...mer Joosse van Halewin[948].  Père Anselme says that Gauthier died “en 1381” and was buried “dans la chapelle du S. Esprit à Hallwin” (no sources cited)[949].  His date of death is disproved by the 1384 charter.  The reference to his place of burial suggests that the information came from an epitaph, the accuracy of which is often dubious. 

m PERONNE de Saint-Omer Dame de Piennes, de Borre, Bugenhoult, Basserode, et de Beaurepaire en Thiérache, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme records her family origin and marriage (no sources cited)[950].  The arms of “Peene” [=Piennes] are displayed on the epitaph of her daughter Marguerite, see below, in the place which corresponds to her mother. 

Gauthier & his wife had children (Père Anselme records other children whose existence has not been verified[951]): 

1.         JEAN d’Halluin (-21 Nov [1440/41], bur Comines).  Père Anselme records his parentage, noting that he was present at the funeral of Louis II Count of Flanders in 1383[952].  Froissart records the burial of Louis II Count of Flanders at Lille Saint-Pierre 28 Jan 1383, the body followed by “premier messire Jehan de Hallewin, le plus prochain du corps...”, “por les escus dou Tournoy...Jehan de Halluin...”, and “pour les heaumes dou Tournoy : premiers, messire Josse de Halluwin...[953].  It is possible that one of the persons named was this Jean d’Halluin, although if Père Anselme correctly reports his marriage date this seems doubtful.  The chronology would be verifiable with more information on the chronology of Jean’s supposed mother (about whom no information has yet been found).  Seigneur d’Halluin.  Père Anselme records his death 21 Nov 1440 (no source cited)[954].  An epitaph at Halluin [Halewijn] records the burial of “Jan sr d’Halewijn, Lauwe, de Rolleghem, conseillier et chambellan de monsr. le duc de Bourgne, comte de Flandres” who died 21 Nov 1441 and “madame Jacquelijne de Ghistelle son espouse” who died 2 Jan 1451 (O.S.?)[955]m ([21 Dec 1415]) JACQUELINE van Gistel Vrouw van Lanwe, daughter of --- (-2 Jan [1451/52], bur Comines).  Père Anselme records Jacqueline as the daughter of Gerard van Gistel Heer van Eskelbeek and his wife Marguerite de Créquy, her marriage and marriage date (no sources cited)[956].  Her reported marriage date seems late for her to have been Gerard’s daughter.  An epitaph at Halluin [Halewijn] records the burial of “Jan sr d’Halewijn...” who died 21 Nov 1441 and “madame Jacquelijne de Ghistelle son espouse” who died 2 Jan 1451 (O.S.?)[957].  Jean & his wife had children (Père Anselme records three other sons and six daughters[958]):

a)         GAUTHIER d’Halluin (-8 Oct 1441).  Père Anselme records his parentage and titles, noting that he accompanied the duke of Burgundy to visit the king of France at Troyes in 1419, was named “commissaire pour le renouvellement des loix ou de l’eschevinage dans les villes de Flandres” in 1433, and died 8 Oct 1441[959]Seigneur d’Halluin

-        see below

b)         JOSSE d’Halluin (-24 Sep 1472, bur Piennes-lez-Castel).  Père Anselme records his parentage, some details of his career, date of death, and place of burial[960].  Seigneur de Piennes [Peene].  An epitaph at Piennes records the burial of “messire Josse de Halewijn chlr sr de Peene, de Buggenhaute et de Basserode en son temps conseillier et chamberlan...[des] ducs de Bourgoigne Ohle et Charles et leur souverain bailly de Flandres” who with “madame Jenne de la Trimouille dame desdt lieux” founded the church and died 24 Sep 1472, and “dame Bonne d’Antoin en son vivant première femme...dudt messire Josse de Halewyn” who died 21 Jan 1446, and “madame Jenne de la Trimouille dame de Pienne, de Bugghenhaute et Basserode, en son vivant femme...dudt messire Josse de Halewijn” who died 25 Mar 1470[961]m firstly JEANNE de la Clyte dite de Comines, daughter of --- (-1441 or after).  Père Anselme records her family origin and marriage, noting her testament dated 1441 and death childless[962]m secondly (after 1441) as her second husband, BONNE de Melun, widow of PIERRE de Sainte-Aldégonde Seigneur de Noircarmes, daughter of [JEAN [IV] de Melun Burggraaf van Gent, Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy & his second wife Jeanne d’Abbeville] (-21 Jan 1446).  Père Anselme records Bonne as daughter of ”Jean de Melun vicomte de Gand seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy et de Marie de Saarbruche”, her first marriage with “Pierre de Ste Aldegonde seigneur de Noircarmes”, and her second marriage[963].  From a chronological point if view, it is likely that her father was Jean [IV] de Melun, meaning that Anselme misidentified her mother (Marie de Commercy/Saarbrücken being married to Jean [V] de Melun).  An epitaph at Piennes records the burial of “messire Josse de Halewijn chlr sr de Peene...” who died 24 Sep 1472, and “dame Bonne d’Antoin en son vivant première femme...dudt messire Josse de Halewyn” who died 21 Jan 1446[964]m thirdly (contract 13 Sep 1449) JEANNE de la Trémoïlle, daughter of JEAN de la Trémoïlle Baron de Dours & his second wife Jeanne de Créquy (-25 Mar 1470).  Père Anselme records Jeanne as daughter of ”Jean de la Tremoille seigneur de Dours et d’Engoudessen et de Jeanne de Crequy” and her marriage contract dated 13 Sep 1449[965].  An epitaph at Piennes records the burial of “messire Josse de Halewijn chlr sr de Peene...” who with “madame Jenne de la Trimouille dame desdt lieux” founded the church and died 24 Sep 1472, and of “madame Jenne de la Trimouille dame de Pienne, de Bugghenhaute et Basserode, en son vivant femme...dudt messire Josse de Halewijn” who died 25 Mar 1470[966].  Her parentage is corroborate by the epitaph of her son “Charles de Halewijn fs de messire Josse...”, whose quarters were “La Trimouille; Lonvillers; Crquij; Roije[967].  Josse & his third wife had children (Père Anselme records two other sons and two other daughters[968]): 

i)          LOUIS d’Halluin (-after 16 Jan 1516).  Père Anselme records his parentage, giving details of his career in France, noting in particular that the king of France granted him the county of Guines 16 Jan 1515 (presumably O.S.?[969].  Seigneur de Piennes, Buggenhout et Maignelais.  m JOHANNA van Gistel Vrauw van Eskelbeek, daughter of JAN van Gistel Heer van Eskelbeek & his wife Johanna van Gruuthuse.  The manuscript of Flanders epitaphs records “mer Jan van Ghistelle ruddere heere van Ekelsbeke...” who married “mevrau Jehenne vanden Gruuthuse”, by whom he had “2 dochters. D’eene starf jonck, ende d’ander traude mer Jan Loijs van Halewijn heere van Peene, daer hij bij hadde : ---, die was heere van Buggenhout“, adding that Jan was “heere van Ekelsbeke end ontfanghere hereditable van de casselrie van Veurne...[970].  Louis & his wife had children (Père Anselme records one other son and three daughters[971]):

(1)       PHILIPPE d’Halluin (-[1517]).  Père Anselme records his parentage and some details of his career[972].  Seigneur de Piennes et de Maignelais.  m FRANÇOISE de Nevers Dame de Rosoy, daughter of PHILIPPE de Bourgogne bâtard de Nevers Seigneur de Rosoy & his wife Marie de Roye (1480-1527).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[973]

-         SEIGNEURS de PIENNES, MARQUIS de PIENNES et de MAIGNELAIS[974]

(2)       JEAN d’Halluin (-after 6 Oct 1521).  Heer van Eskelbeek.  

-         HEREN van ESKELBEEK, SEIGNEURS de WAILLY[975]

ii)         CHARLES d’Halluin .  Père Anselme records his parentage[976]Seigneur de Nieurlet [Nieuwerleet].  m firstly ANTOINETTE de Saveuse Dame de Robecque, daughter of CHARLES de Saveuse Seigneur de Souverain-Moulin & his wife Nicole de Bournel.  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[977]m secondly (after 1503) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Flandres Dame de Bambeke, Vrouw van Nieurlet [Nieuwerleet], widow of DENIS de Saint-Omer Heer van Hondschote, daughter of SIMON de Flandre-Drincham Seigneur de Bambeke & his wife Margareta van Wisloc Vrouw van Nieurlet [Nieuwerleet].  A manuscript records “Marguerite de Wissoc Dame de Nieureleet” who married “Simon de Flandres dict de Drincham Seigneur de Bambeque” and their daughter “Marguerite...Dame des susdits lieuz” who married firstly “Denys de S. Omer Seign. de Hondecoutere” and secondly “Charles de Halewijn[978].  Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages[979].  A document dated 1503 records “joncvrauwe Margriete van Drincham filia Symoens wedew van wijlen mer Denys van Morbeke” as a fiefholder at Voorne[980]

-         SEIGNEURS de NIEURLET[981]

iii)        ADRIENNE d’Halluin .  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[982]m GUILLAUME de Ligne Seigneur de Barbançon, son of MICHEL Seigneur de Ligne, Baron de Barbançon & his wife Bonne d’Abbeville. 

iv)       JEANNE d’Halluin .  Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages[983]m firstly (1527) JAN Baron van Wassenaar Burggraaf van Leiden, son of ---.  m secondly JEAN de Soissons Seigneur de Moreuil, son of ---. 

c)         JEAN d’Halluin (-14 Apr 1482, bur Boezinge).  Père Anselme records his parentage and date of death[984].  Seigneur de Roullers, Heer van Boezinge.  An epitaph at Boezinge records the burial of “mer Jan van Halewijn ruddere, mer Jans zuene, heere van Rousselrie ende van Boesinghe” who died 18 Apr 1482 and “Catheline van Dixmude” who died 5 Oct 1483[985]m as her second husband, CATHARINA van Dixmude, widow of --- de Saint-Omer, daughter of OLIVER van Dixmude & his wife --- (-5 Oct 1483).  An epitaph at Boezinge records the burial of “mer Jan van Halewijn ruddere, mer Jans zuene, heere van Rousselrie ende van Boesinghe” who died 18 Apr 1482 and “Catheline van Dixmude” who died 5 Oct 1483, the manuscript noting that she first married “een van Sainct-Omer dict Wallon-capelle[986]

-        HEREN van BOEZINGE[987]

d)         GHISLAIN d’Halluin (-before 22 Mar 1456).  Père Anselme records his parentage (calling him “Guillaume”), noting that he was childless[988]Heer van Buggenhout.  m PHILIPPA de Comines, daughter of --- (-after 22 Mar 1456).  A charter dated 5 Jun 1442 names “edle heere mer Colaert van Komen heer van Ruesschuere” and “Ghilain van Halewijn heer van Buggenhout, names zijn echtgenote die de zuster is van Colard van Komen[989].  A charter dated 22 Mar 1455 (N.S.) names “vrauwe Philippa van Comene weduwe van Gelein van Halewijn heer van Buggenhout[990]

2.         [MARIE d’Halluin (-after 8 May 1413).  A charter dated 8 May 1413 records “Jehan de Ghistielle seigneur de Eclebecque chevalier” married to “Maria van Halewijn[991].  Père Anselme records “Niterie alias Marguerite”, daughter of Gauthier Seigneur d’Halluin, who married “Jean de Ghistelles seigneur d’Esclebecque” (no sources cited)[992].  It is suggested that he is referring to the same person named 8 May 1413.  An epitaph at Ekelsbeek records the burial of “mer Jan van Ghistelle heere van Ekelsbeke ende van Ledreghem, fs mer Gheeraerts ende vrau Margrite van Crequij” who died 12 Sep 1434 and “vrau Marie van Halewijn zijn wijf” who died “140-[993]m JAN van Gistel Heer van Eskelbeek, son of GERARD van Gistel Heer van Eskelbeek & his wife Marguerite de Créquy (-12 Sep 1434, bur Ekelsbeek).] 

3.         MARGUERITE d’Halluin (-1443, bur Hansbeke).  An epitaph at Hansbeke records the burial of “Jan Halewijn ruddere heere van Hansbeke ende van Bailleul” who died 10 Dec 1441 and “joncvrau Margriete van Halewijn fa mer Wouters heere van Halewijn, mer Jans wijf” who died 1443, with his quarters “Halewijn, Lichtervelde, Koijeghem ende Nevele” and hers “Halewijn, Gruuthuuse, Peene, ---[994]m JEAN d’Halluin Heer van Hansbeke, Seigneur de Bailleul, son of --- (-10 Dec 1441, bur Hansbeke).  His parentage has not been ascertained. 

 

 

GAUTHIER d’Halluin, son of JEAN Seigneur d’Halluin & his wife Jacqueline van Gistel Vrouw van Lanwe (-8 Oct 1441).  Père Anselme records his parentage and titles, noting that he accompanied the duke of Burgundy to visit the king of France at Troyes in 1419, was named “commissaire pour le renouvellement des loix ou de l’eschevinage dans les villes de Flandres” in 1433, and died 8 Oct 1441[995]Seigneur d’Halluin

m JACQUELINE van Visch Dame de la Chapelle, daughter of MARTIN van Visch & his wife Lievine de la Chapelle.  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[996]

Gauthier & his wife had children (Père Anselme records four other sons and six daughters[997]): 

1.         JEAN d’Halluin (-1473)Seigneur d’Halluin.  Heer van Vellegem, Lawe, Rocq, Vesthove en Gaver.  Père Anselme records his parentage, noting that he was “conseiller et chambellan du duc de Bourgogne, son lieutenant general contre les Anglois, souverain bailly de Flandres” and died 1473[998]m JEANNE de la Clyte Dame de Comines Vicomtesse de Nieuport, daughter of JEAN Seigneur de Comines & his wife Jeanne d’Estouteville ([Comines] [after 1444]-[27 Mar] [1512/13], bur Comines).  Père Anselme records her parentage, titles, marriage, date of death and place of burial (no sources cited)[999].  Leuridan records her birth in 1440 “au château de Comines” (no source cited)[1000], the date being inconsistent with her parents’ marriage contract.  A charter dated [1475] names “madame Jeanne de Commynes dame de Hallewin...weduwe van de heer van Halewijn[1001].  An epitaph at Comines [Comene] records the burial of “dame Jenne de Comines vefve de feu...Jean sr de Halewijn et de Lauwe, dame d’honneur de madame Marie duchesse de Bourgne, contesse de Flandres” who died 1512 (O.S.?) “le jour de la resurrection[1002].  Jean & his wife had children (Père Anselme records one other son and one other daughter[1003]): 

a)         GEORGES d’Halluin (-1536)Seigneur d’Halluin.  Père Anselme records his parentage and death in 1536[1004]m ANTOINETTE de Sainte-Aldégonde, daughter of NICOLAS de Saint-Aldégonde Seigneur de Noircarmes & his wife Honorine de Montmorency.  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[1005].  Georges & his wife had three children: 

i)          JEAN d’Halluin (end-1509-Saint-Désir, near Vitry 29 Jul 1544, bur Cambron).  Père Anselme records his parentage, dates of birth and death, and place of burial all as recorded on his epitaph[1006]Seigneur d’Halluin.  An epitaph at Comines [Comene] records the burial of “messire Jan de Halewijn sr dudt lieu et de Comines vicompte de Nieuport, sr de Rolleghem, Waeterbeke, Westhove, Lauwe et de Ronck...” who died 29 Jul 1544 “au camp de l’Empereur à St Dexir en France d’un coup d’harquebuse qu’il receut le jour précédent à la prinse de Bitrij” aged “34 ans et demi et 10 jours[1007]m JOSSINE de Lannoy, daughter of PHILIPPE de Lannoy Seigneur de Molembaix & his wife Françoise de Barbançon (-18 May 1561, bur Cambron).  Père Anselme records her parentage, marriage, date of death, and place of burial (presumably also based on an epitaph)[1008].  Jean & his wife had two children: 

(1)       LOUIS d’Halluin (-young, bur Brussels chapelle du Sang-du-Miracle).  Père Anselme records his parentage and place of burial[1009]

(2)       JEANNE HENRIETTE d’Halluin (-6 Dec 1581, bur Beaumont, transferred 1596 to Heverlo, église des Célestins).  Père Anselme records her parentage, marriage, marriage date, date of death and place of burial[1010]Dame d’Halluin et de Comines.  Vicomtesse de Nieuport.  m (Château de Comines 14 Jan 1559) as his first wife, PHILIPPE de Croÿ Duc d’Arschot, Prince de Chimay, son of PHILIPPE [II] de Croÿ Duc d’Arschot & his first wife Anne de Croÿ Pss de Chimay (Valenciennes 10 Jul 1526-11 Dec 1595, bur Heverlo, église des Celestins). 

ii)         JEANNE d’Halluin (-27 Dec 1557, bur Rume near Tournai).  Père Anselme records her parentage, two marriages, date of death and place of burial[1011]m firstly PHILIPPE Seigneur de Beaufort [en Artois] et de Ransart, son of --- (-31 Dec 1530, bur Rume).  m secondly as his second wife, JACQUES Comte de Ligne, son of ANTOINE Baron de Ligne, Comte de Fauquemberghe & his wife Philippotte de Luxembourg (-1552, bur Belœil). 

iii)        ANNE d’Halluin (-after 1564).  Père Anselme records her parentage, marriage, and mention widowed in 1564 (no sources cited)[1012]m FRANS van der Gracht Heer van Valstede, son of --- (-1564 or before). 

b)         ISABELLE d’Halluin .  Caumartin records “Isabeau d’Halluin Comtesse de Grandpré”, daughter of Jean Seigneur de Halluin & his wife Jeanne de la Clite Dame de Commines, as second wife of Louis de Joyeuse Seigneur de Bouthéon and mother of Robert de Joyeuse Comte de Grandpré who is shown below (no sources cited)[1013].  Père Anselme records the same information (no sources cited)[1014].  The description of her as “comtesse de Grandpré” [in her own right?] is unlikely to be correct.  It appears contradicted by Barthélemy who records that “Quentin le Bouteiller écuyer, de Châlons-sur-Marne” (to whom Edouard [II] Comte de Grandpré had sold the county 26 Jun 1462, as noted in the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-PORCIEN, RETHEL, GRANDPRE, and who swore homage to the king for Grandpré 8 Mar 1462) sold Grandpré to “Henri de Borzelle seigneur de la Vère” who swore homage 7 Oct 1467, noting that charters dated 1481 and 1485 granted “deux délais à Walfart de Borzelle, fils de Henri”, and suggesting that the last-named sold Grandpré to Louis de Joyeuse (no date given, but presumably before Wolfard’s death in 1487)[1015].  One possibility is presumably that Louis de Joyeuse bought Grandpré jointly with his second wife (with her money?).  She is named in the marriage contract between [her son] “Robert de Joyeuse fils de feus...Louis de Joyeuse et de damoiselle Isabeau d’Hallwin, Comtesse de Grand-Pré”, in the presence of “Jean de Joyeuse son frere aisné Protonotaire du S. Siege Apostolique”, and “Mademoiselle Margueritte de Barbançon fille de feu François de Barbançon Seigneur de la Ferté sur Perron et de damoiselle Françoise de Villiers” is dated 15 Jul 1519[1016]m as his second wife, LOUIS de Joyeuse Seigneur de Bouthéon, son of TANNEGUY Vicomte de Joyeuse & his wife Blanche de Tournon (-Saint-Lambert en Rethelois 4 Mar 1498). 

c)         JEANNE d’Halluin .  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[1017].  Her family origin and marriage are indicated by a window at Boezinge which records [her grandson] “messire Maximilien de Witthem sr de Bersele” and “sa feme dame Guillemette de Halewin héritière de Boesinghe”, displaying 16 quarters “Bersele; Despont; Halewyn; Comines; Lannoy; Chastillon; Lannoy; Ligne; Halweyn; Dixmude; Stavele; Berlaimont; Oignies; Ghistelles; Eechout; Oesuere[1018], in which the third and fourth quarters reflect Jeanne d’Halluin’s parentage.  m FILIPS van Witthem Heer van Boutersem, son of HENDRIK [IV] van Witthem Heer van Boutersem & his wife Isabella van de Spout. 

 

 

The relationships between the following individuals and the Halluin families shown above have not been confirmed. 

 

1.         DANIEL d’Halluin (-[18 Dec 1348/8 Apr 1351]).  A document dated 18 Dec 1348 names “Daniel van Hallewijn...rider[1019].  He is named as deceased in the [8 Apr/31 May] 1350 document cited below.  m ---.  The name of Daniel’s wife is not known.  Daniel & his wife had one child: 

a)         MARIE d’Halluin .  A document dated [8 Apr/31 May] 1350 names “mijn joncvrouwe Marie van Haellewine mijns heere Daneels wetterlicke dochtere was van Haelewine[1020]

 

2.         JOSSE d’Halluin (-[10 Mar 1387/1390]).  Père Anselme names Josse as son of Gauthier (indicating Gauthier [III] named above?) by his second wife “Jeanne d’Ottignies” (no sources cited)[1021].  Louis II Count of Flanders converted revenue “en une rente viagère aux deux vies” in favour of “messire Joosse de Hallewin...[et] sa femme dame Jehane fille et hoir de messire Nicole de Wasieres” by charter dated 12 Apr 1360[1022].  A list of nobles in Flanders dated 1362-63 names “van de kasselrij Oudenaarde...messire Joos de Halewijn” and “van de kasselrij Kortrijk...le seigneur de Halewijn...messire Daniel, Jehan, et Gauthier de Halewijn chevaliers[1023].  A charter dated 1366 names “min here Joos van Haelwine ende min vrouwe sin wijf...min heere van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Roesbeke” as fiefholders from Courtrai, “mer Joos van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Oudenaarde, “mer Tristram van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from “Uutkerke”, and “mer Olivier van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Bruges[1024].  Accounts dated 1380-81, relating to the visit of Louis II Count of Flanders to Gent, name “messire Josse et Daniel de Halewin” and “messire Wautier et a messire Willame de Halewin[1025].  A charter dated soon after 27 Nov 1382 names “mer Jan van Halewijn[1026].  Froissart records the burial of Louis II Count of Flanders at Lille Saint-Pierre 28 Jan 1383, the body followed by “premier messire Jehan de Hallewin, le plus prochain du corps...”, “por les escus dou Tournoy...Jehan de Halluin...”, and “pour les heaumes dou Tournoy : premiers, messire Josse de Halluwin...[1027].  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[1028].  Heer van Heemsrode: “Josse de Halluin chevalier sire de Hemsrode” was named as arbitrator between “mgr. Wautier sire de Halluin” and “ses co-héritiers” by charter dated 10 Mar 1386 (O.S.)[1029].  Josse presumably died before his wife’s 1390 charter cited below.  m (before 12 Apr 1360) JEANNE de Waziers, daughter of NICOLAS [Colart] de Waziers Seigneur de Linselles et de Blaton & his wife --- Dame d’Esvin (-[1399]).  Louis II Count of Flanders converted revenue “en une rente viagère aux deux vies” in favour of “messire Joosse de Hallewin...[et] sa femme dame Jehane fille et hoir de messire Nicole de Wasieres” by charter dated 12 Apr 1360[1030].  “Noble dame madame de Wasiers, dame de Hemserode et d’Esvin” bought “le viage d’un fief sis à Esvin, relevant de Lens” from “noble dame madame de Bondues” by charter dated 1390[1031].  “Pierre de Belleval écuyer, mari et bail de dame Gille de Miraumont et noble dame madame Jehane de Wasiers, vesve de feu monsr de Flequieres” swore homage for “le fied d’Esvin, délaissé par feue noble dame madame d’Esvin” by charter dated 1399[1032].  [Père Anselme says that Josse married firstly “Jeanne de Wasieres” and secondly “--- d’Hesrode”, noting that he died childless (no sources cited)[1033].  This information does not appear correct with regard to his supposed second marriage and to his dying childless.  Josse & his wife had one child: 

a)         GAUTHIER [V] d´Halluin (-after [1384/86]).  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[1034]

 

3.         DANIEL d’Halluin (-after [1381/82]).  A list of nobles in Flanders dated 1362-63 names “van de kasselrij Oudenaarde...messire Joos de Halewijn” and “van de kasselrij Kortrijk...le seigneur de Halewijn...messire Daniel, Jehan, et Gauthier de Halewijn chevaliers[1035].  “Gheraert van Raesseghem her van Masseme, Gheeraerd he van Steenhusen, Daneel van Alewine ende Boudin van der Woestine ruddren” guaranteed obligations imposed by the count of Flanders on “den her vander Wostine en den her van Zweveghem” by charter dated 14 May 1365[1036].  A charter dated 15 May 1376 named “Daneel van Haelwine ruddre[1037].  Accounts dated 1380-81, relating to the visit of Louis II Count of Flanders to Gent, name “messire Josse et Daniel de Halewin” and “messire Wautier et a messire Willame de Halewin[1038]

 

4.         JEAN d’Halluin (-[1363/Oct 1365]).  A list of nobles in Flanders dated 1362-63 names “van de kasselrij Oudenaarde...messire Joos de Halewijn” and “van de kasselrij Kortrijk...le seigneur de Halewijn...messire Daniel, Jehan, et Gauthier de Halewijn chevaliers[1039]m JOHANNA van der Burg, daughter of --- (-after [Oct/Dec] 1365).  A charter dated [Oct/Dec] 1365 names “mijn vrouwe Jehane vander Bourgh, twijf mijns here Jehans van Halewine” as a fiefholder “van het leenhof van Veurne[1040]

 

5.         OLIVIER d’Halluin (-after [1384/86]).  A charter dated 1365 names “mer Tristeram van Halewine here van Hutkerke” as a fiefholder from Bruges “van het leenhof van Veurne”, noting that “mer Olivier van Halewine rudder” also held the same fief[1041].  A charter dated 1366 names “min here Joos van Haelwine ende min vrouwe sin wijf...min heere van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Roesbeke” as fiefholders from Courtrai, “mer Joos van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Oudenaarde, “mer Tristram van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from “Uutkerke”, and “mer Olivier van Haelwine” as a fiefholder from Bruges[1042].  A charter dated 1381 names “mijn her Roeland heer van Halewine” and “mer Olivier van Halewine rudder” as fiefholders from Bruges[1043].  A charter dated 1 Oct 1382 names “Olivier van Halewijn ridder en ruwaard en baljuw van Dendermonde[1044].  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[1045]same person as...?  OLIVIER d’Halluin (-after [1389/91]).  “Monseigneur Olivier de Halewin...baljuw van Aalst” is named 1388/89 and “Olivier de Halewin chevalier gouverneur, bailli et receveur des biens de Herzele, au comté d’Alost” in 1389/91[1046]

 

6.         GAUTHIER d’Halluin (-after [1384/86]).  Heer van Caloen: “Gautier van Halewijn heer van Caloen” was named as “baljuw van Oudenaarde” from 22 Sep 1377 to 7 Sep 1379[1047].  A charter dated 25 Apr 1378 named “Wouter van Halewijn heer van Caloen[1048].  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[1049]

 

7.         JEAN d’Halluin (-after Jan 1383).  A charter dated soon after 27 Nov 1382 names “mer Jan van Halewijn[1050].  Froissart records the burial of Louis II Count of Flanders at Lille Saint-Pierre 28 Jan 1383, the body followed by “premier messire Jehan de Hallewin, le plus prochain du corps...”, “por les escus dou Tournoy...Jehan de Halluin...”, and “pour les heaumes dou Tournoy : premiers, messire Josse de Halluwin...[1051].  As noted above, one of these entries may refer to Jean d’Halluin Seigneur de Halluin, son of Gauthier Seigneur d’Halluin. 

 

8.         JEAN d’Halluin (-after [1384/86]).  A charter dated soon after 27 Nov 1382 names “mer Jan van Halewijn[1052].  Froissart records the burial of Louis II Count of Flanders at Lille Saint-Pierre 28 Jan 1383, the body followed by “premier messire Jehan de Hallewin, le plus prochain du corps...”, “por les escus dou Tournoy...Jehan de Halluin...”, and “pour les heaumes dou Tournoy : premiers, messire Josse de Halluwin...[1053].  As noted above, one of these entries may refer to Jean d´Halluin Seigneur d’Halluin, son of Gauthier Seigneur d’Halluin.  A list of knights in Flanders dated 1384-86 names “mer Joos van Haelwine...mer Wouter van Haelwine sheren zone...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Rosebeke...mer Wouter van Haelwine van Calone...mer Olivier van Haelwine...mer Jan van Haelwine...mer Willem van Haelwine...mer Gheraerd van Haelwine[1054]

 

9.         DANIEL d’Halluin (-after 1394).  Heer van Hansbeke: a charter dated 1394 names “Daniel van Halewijn heer van Hansbeke[1055]

 

10.      ROLAND d’Halluin (-after [1400]).  Documents dated to [1400] name “Roeland van Halewijn” fiefholder of “tgoet te Watene (in de parochie Ledegem)” from Ypres (succeeded there by “Cornelis van Halewijn”)[1056]

 

11.      JEAN d’Halluin .  He is named in the charter recording the marriage of his daughter but has not been identified among the several persons named Jean d’Halluin who are shown above.  m ---.  The  name of Jean’s wife is not known.  Jean & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEANNE d’Halluin .  A charter dated 10 Sep 1438 records the marriage between “Philips heere van Diksmude” and “Jehanne van Halewijn, dochter van ridder Jan van Halewijn[1057].  [There is confusion in secondary sources between this person and Jeanne d’Halluin, wife of Hendrik van Borselen Comte de Grandpré (see above).  The commentary in the manuscript of epitaphs in Flanders records that “deze Jehenne [referring to Hendrik’s wife] was wede van mer Philips heere van Dixmude, Watou ende Winnezeele[1058]Van de Putte also names Filip’s wife “Jeanne d’Halewyn dame de la Vere” (no source cited)[1059].  This suggested co-identity is impossible in view of the marriage date shown above and the 1444 marriage of Wolfard, son of Hendrik and his wife (see the document DUTCH NOBILITY).]  m (10 Sep 1438) FILIP van Dixmude, son of [DIRK Châtelain/Seigneur de Dixmude & his first wife ---]. 

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de WAVRIN

 

 

Wavrin is situated about 10 kilometres south-west of Lille, in the present-day French département of Nord. 

 

 

1.         ROGER [I] de Wavrin (-after [1018/31]).  "Rogeri de Waurinio…" subscribed the charter dated to [1018/31] (document incorrectly dated 1002) under which "Hernoldus cum mea coniuge Richelde" donated "villam…Bovines" to the abbey of Saint-Amand[1060].  Abbot Malbod recorded previous donations to the abbey of Saint-Amand by undated charter, dated by the compiler to [1049/63], one of which is the donation made by "tres…sorores Gysla, Liegardis, Ermentrudis, annuentibus maritis earum Stephano, Tietbaldo et Lietduino" of "predii in Haltiaco" which is subscribed by "Rotgeri…"[1061]

 

2.         HELIE [I] de Wavrin (-after May 1047).  “…Hellini de Wavrinio…” subscribed the charter dated May 1047 under which Baudouin V Count of Flanders confirmed the possessions of Marciennes abbey[1062]m ---.  The name of Hélie’s wife is not known.  Hélie [I] & his wife had one child]: 

a)         [HELIE [II] de Wavrin (-after 1096).  A charter dated 1096 records the foundation of Anchin abbey by "Ansellus Valencenensis castellanus, Ribodimonthis et Oestrevandiæ dominus" and includes a long list of "nomina…militum" who were present, including "Ex Tornacensibus et vicinis: Hellinus Vavrinius H. filius…" named first in the representatives from Tournai[1063].  No other reference to Hélie de Wavrin, or his supposed father, has been found.  The 1096 document appears dubious because of the unusually long list of individuals who are supposedly named as present and may not be contemporary.]

 

 

1.         ROGER [II] de Wavrin (-before 1107).  He is named in his wife’s 1107 donation but no primary source has been identified which names him in his own capacity.  Dereine suggests that Roger died during the First Crusade[1064], but if that is correct it is surprising that his widow would have waited until 1107 before making a donation for his soul (see below).  m as her first husband, EMMISSA “comitissa” [de Valenciennes], daughter of ISAAC [de Valenciennes] & his wife Mathilde --- (-after 1143).  Her parentage and first two marriages are confirmed by the charter dated 1107 under which "Emmissa quæ cognominor comitissa, Isaac et Maltheldis filia, Fastrei de Fossato conjunx" granted revenue rights to the church of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Valenciennes, for the souls of "patris et matris [et] domini mei…Rogeri…de Wavring", signed by "Godefridi, Hugonis, castellanorum de Valentianis, Godzewini de Avesnes…"[1065].   She married secondly Fastré de Fossé and thirdly Godfried [I] van Aarschot.  Her third marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1139 under which "Emeza, quæ cognominor comitissa, Ysaac et Mathildis filia, uxor Godefridi de Arescot" donated revenue rights to the abbey of Liessies, with the consent of "Balduino Montensi comite"[1066].  Baudouin IV Comte de Hainaut confirmed that "comitissa, uxor Godefridi de Arscoth" renounced her rights in the forest of Vicogne in favour of the abbey of Vicogne by charter dated 1143[1067].  

 

 

1.         ROGER [III] de Wavrin (-1160 or after)Sénéchal de Flandre.  A charter dated 1135 names Roger de Wavrin as seneschal[1068].  "…Henrici de Broburc constabuli, Rogeri de Wavrin, Rogeri castellani de Curtrai…Gualtero castellani de Duaco…" signed the charter dated 1154 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed an agreement between the abbey of Saint-Amand and "Stephanus ministerialis ville Sancti-Amandi" concerning the injustices by "avus eius Almannus"[1069].  "…Rogeri de Wavrin, Hellini filii ipsius, Michaelis constabularii, Symonis castellani de Oisi, Hugonis castellani de Pulchro Manso, Michaelis castellani de Duaco…Hugonis prepositi Sancti Petri Duacensis…" signed the charter dated 1161 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Saint-Aubert at Vitry[1070]m firstly MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after 1157).  Brassart states that Mathilde, wife of Roger [III] de Wavrin, is named "1157, titre de l’abbaye de Loos" but he does not cite or quote the source[1071]m secondly YOLANDE de Tournai, daughter of EVERARD [II] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai & his wife ---.  The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "Balduinum…Evrardum et Godefridum filios…et Yolandem filiam" as children of Richildis, specifying that Yolande married "dapifero Rogerio"[1072].  Roger [III] & his first wife had [nine] children: 

a)         HELIE [III] de Wavrin (-[Acre] [1191/92]).  "…Rogeri de Wavrin, Hellini filii ipsius, Michaelis constabularii, Symonis castellani de Oisi, Hugonis castellani de Pulchro Manso, Michaelis castellani de Duaco…Hugonis prepositi Sancti Petri Duacensis…" signed the charter dated 1161 under which Thierry Count of Flanders confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Saint-Aubert at Vitry[1073].  Sénéchal de Flandre 1169.  "Hellinus Flandrie dapifer" donated property to Arras St Vaast with the consent of "Hugone de Bellomanso et Mathilde filia mea, uxore illius" dated 1175 "ob animam dominii Rogeri filii mei"[1074].  Brassart quotes a charter dated 1177 under which "Hellinus dapifer Flandrensis" donated property to Vaucelles, with the consent of “Torsellæ uxoris meæ et Philippi filii mei cæterorum liberorum meorum[1075].  “Hellini, Roberti et Gossuini fratrum D. Episcopi...” subscribed the charter dated Jun 1184 under which “Hugo de Oisi Camerac. castellan.” donated “circa villam de Maineriis et vallem Crepicordii” to Cambrai Saint-Aubert at the synod called by “Rogero Episcopo[1076].  A continuator of Sigebert records deaths at Acre in 1191, including that of "…Hellinus…dapifer Flandrensis"[1077].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Hellinus de Waurin Flandrie senescalcus et Rogerus Cameracensis episcopus fratres" among those who died in Palestine in [1191], presumably at the siege of Acre[1078]m TORSELLA d'Arras, daughter of ALELME d'Arras & his wife --- (-after 1177).  Brassart states that "Torsella d’Arras fille du chevalier Alelme" was the wife of Hélie [III] in 1177, citing the cartulary of Artois[1079].  Brassart quotes a charter dated 1177 under which "Hellinus dapifer Flandrensis" donated property to Vaucelles, with the consent of “Torsellæ uxoris meæ et Philippi filii mei cæterorum liberorum meorum[1080].  Hélie [III] & his wife had eight children: 

i)          MATHILDE de Wavrin .  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 1175 under which “Hellinus Flandrie dapifer” returned property to Saint-Vaast, with the consent of “Hugone de Bellomanso et Mathilde filia mea uxore illius”, for the soul of “domini Rogeri filii mei[1081].  The fact that she was already married at that date suggests that Mathilde was one of her parents’ older children.  m (before 1175) HUGUES de Beaumetz, son of ---. 

ii)         PHILIPPE de Wavrin (-after 1177).  Brassart quotes a charter dated 1177 under which "Hellinus dapifer Flandrensis" donated property to Vaucelles, with the consent of “Torsellæ uxoris meæ et Philippi filii mei cæterorum liberorum meorum[1082]

iii)        ROGER de Wavrin (-before 1175).  “Hellinus Flandrie dapifer” returned property to Saint-Vaast, with the consent of “Hugone de Bellomanso et Mathilde filia mea uxore illius”, for the soul of “domini Rogeri filii mei”, by charter dated 1175[1083]

iv)       ROBERT [I] de Wavrin (-before [17] Sep 1196).  Seneschal of Flanders 1192.  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1084]

-         see below

v)        HELIE de Wavrin (-after Jun 1230).  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1085].  Seigneur de Heudincourt.  Seigneur de Waziers[1086]

-         SEIGNEURS de HEUDINCOURT et de WAZIERS

vi)       HILDRADE de Wavrin (-after 12 Nov 1217).  “Balduinus de Mauritania” confirmed revenue “apud Watewe”, donated by “avo meo Everardo” and consented to by “patre meo Everardo”, to Saint-Amand, with the consent of “Heldiardis uxoris mee”, by charter dated 30 Apr 1190[1087].  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1088].  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Balduinus de Mortania" married "filiam senescalli Flandriæ...Hediardem"[1089]. “Balduinus Tornacensis castellanus” donated revenue to the chapel of Saint-Pancrace “in castello juxta Tornacum”, with the consent of “Heldiardis uxoris mee et liberorum meorum”, by charter dated Apr 1202, witnessed by “...Rabbodi fratris castellani...[1090].  “Bald. Tornacensis castellanus et Mauritanie dominus” approved donations to Saint-Martin du Château and Saint-Nicolas de Mortagne, made by “Walterus Mausclers miles de Forest”, with the consent of “uxoris nostre Heldiardis et...filii nostri primogeniti Evrardi et aliorum tam filiorum quam filiarum nostrorum”, by charter dated 21 Feb 1208[1091].  “Everardus Raddo Tornacensis castellanus et Mauritanie dominus” guaranteed the monks of Le Château their possesion of the donation made by “Galterus Caboce del Forest et Heluidis mater eius” by charter dated 12 Nov 1217[1092]m BAUDOUIN Châtelain de Tournai Seigneur de Mortagne, son of EVERARD [III] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai & his second wife Gertrude de Montaigu (before 1166-[21 May 1208/1213]). 

vii)      MARIE de Wavrin (-after 1193).  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1093]

viii)     ADA de Wavrin (-after 1193).  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1094]

b)         GILLES de Wavrin (-after 1157).  Brassart states that Gilles, second son of Roger [III] de Wavrin, is named "1157, titre de l’abbaye de Loos" but he does not cite or quote the source[1095]

c)         ROGER de Wavrin (-[Acre] [1191/92]).  Brassart states that Roger, third son of Roger [III] de Wavrin, is named "chanoine en 1169, titre de l’abbaye de Liessies" but he does not cite or quote the source[1096].  Archdeacon of Cambrai.  Brassart states that a charter of Hélie [III] de Wavrin for Vaucelles dated 1177 names "Rogerus archids frater meus" but he does not cite the source[1097]Bishop of Cambrai 1179.  The Continuatio Aquicinctina of Sigebert's Chronica records in 1178 the appointment of “Rogerus Cameracensis archidiaconus” as bishop of Cambrai[1098].  “Hellini, Roberti et Gossuini fratrum D. Episcopi...” subscribed the charter dated Jun 1184 under which “Hugo de Oisi Camerac. castellan.” donated “circa villam de Maineriis et vallem Crepicordii” to Cambrai Saint-Aubert at the synod called by “Rogero Episcopo[1099].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Hellinus de Waurin Flandrie senescalcus et Rogerus Cameracensis episcopus fratres" among those who died in Palestine in [1191], presumably at the siege of Acre[1100]

d)         ROBERT de Wavrin (-after 1209).  "Philippus Flandrie et Viromandie comes" issued a judgment dated 1177 in favour of Arras St Vaast in a claim by "Hellinus de Wavrin dapifer noster et Robertus de Seugin frater eius" relating to mills in "Anuelin et Donz"[1101].  “Hellini, Roberti et Gossuini fratrum D. Episcopi...” subscribed the charter dated Jun 1184 under which “Hugo de Oisi Camerac. castellan.” donated “circa villam de Maineriis et vallem Crepicordii” to Cambrai Saint-Aubert at the synod called by “Rogero Episcopo[1102].  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1103].  "Johannes...Insulensis castellanus" attested that "domina Ansilia nobilis mulier de Spineto" had donated land to Gand Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "Robberti et Gosuini fratrum suorum et Hellini de Wauerin nepotis sui" by charter dated [17] Sep 1196[1104]. “Balduinus...imperator...Romanie...Flandrie et Hainonie comes” notified “avunculo suo Gerardo Brugensium preposito ac Flandrie cancellario et...Willelmo castellano Sancti Audomari et Gilleberto Insulensis, baillivis suis de Flandrie” that he had granted land to “Waltero clerico...de Curtraco” at the request of “Robertus de Sperleka” by charter dated Feb 1204 [O.S.] in palacio nostro Blakerne”, witnessed by “homines mei de Flandria:...Gislebertus de Ipra, Robelote de Waverin...homines nostri de Romania...Cono de Betunia fidelis et consanguineus noster, Gulfridus marescallus Campanie, Milo de Brebant, Manesulus de Insula[1105]Brassart states that "Robert l’oncle de Wavrin vivait encore en 1209" but he does not cite the source[1106]m as her second husband, ADELAIDE de Guines, widow of HUGUES Châtelain de Lille, daughter of ARNOUL Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Saint-Omer.  The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Margaretam…Beatricem…Adelidem …Eufemiam et Luthgaudam…Mathildem …Ghislam…Agnetem" as the eight daughters of "Gandavense Arnoldo" & his wife, specifying that Marguerite married firstly "Insulensi castellano Hugoni" (specifying that he was "prius Sancti Piati Seclinensis preoposito") and secondly "Roberto de Waveriaco, fratri Hellini Flandrie dapiferi sive senescali", specifying that her dowry was "apud Senghiniacum"[1107]

e)         GOSWIN de Wavrin (-after 1204).  “Hellini, Roberti et Gossuini fratrum D. Episcopi...” subscribed the charter dated Jun 1184 under which “Hugo de Oisi Camerac. castellan.” donated “circa villam de Maineriis et vallem Crepicordii” to Cambrai Saint-Aubert at the synod called by “Rogero Episcopo[1108].  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1109].  "Johannes...Insulensis castellanus" attested that "domina Ansilia nobilis mulier de Spineto" had donated land to Gand Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "Robberti et Gosuini fratrum suorum et Hellini de Wauerin nepotis sui" by charter dated [17] Sep 1196[1110]m as her third husband, ADA du Rœulx, widow firstly of NIKOLAAS van Boelare and secondly of DROGON de Bousies, daughter of EUSTACHE [I] du Rœulx & his wife Marie de Morlanwelz ([before 1150]-).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Beatricem, Alidem et Adam" as daughters of "Eustacium de Ruez…Senior" & his wife, naming the first husband of Ada as "Nicholao de Bouleirs", her second husband "Drogoni de Boosiis" (specifying that they had children) and her third husband "militia Flandrensi Gosuino"[1111]

f)          MATHILDE de Wavrin (-after 1163).  A charter of Thierry Count of Flanders dated 1157 records the contract for the marriage of "Raginaldus Insule castellanus" and "Matildim Rogeri de Waverin dapiferi nostri filiam", constituting as her dowry revenue from "Senghin in Weppes…consulatum de Everlengeham"[1112].    m (contract [1157]) [as his second wife,] RENAUD Châtelain de Lille, son of ROGER [II] Châtelain de Lille & his wife --- (-[1163]). 

g)         A--- de Wavrin (-after 1193).  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1113]m --- de Meaulens, son of --- (-1193 or before). 

h)         ANSILIA de Wavrin (-after [17] Sep 1196).  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1114].  "Johannes...Insulensis castellanus" attested that "domina Ansilia nobilis mulier de Spineto" had donated land to Gand Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "Robberti et Gosuini fratrum suorum et Hellini de Wauerin nepotis sui" by charter dated [17] Sep 1196[1115]m GOSCELIN Seigneur d'Antoing, son of ALARD [II] Seigneur d’Epinoy et d’Antoing & his wife [Flandrine de Namur] (-1193). 

i)          [daughter .  It is not known whether this daughter was the same person as one of the other daughters who are named above.]  m ---.  One child: 

i)          JEAN [II] (-[1196]).  Fanien states that Jean was “le neveu de Roger évêque de Cambrai du côté de sa mère”, but he does not cite the primary sources on which this information is based[1116].  Archdeacon of Cambrai.  Archdeacon of Artois.  Bishop of Cambrai 1192.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1193 that "Guilelmus Remensis archiepiscopus" consecrated “Iohannem” as bishop of Cambrai, adding that “de hoc Iohanne dicitur quod virgo decesserit[1117]

 

 

ROBERT [I] de Wavrin, son of HELIE [III] de Wavrin Seneschal of Flanders & his wife Torsella d'Arras (-before [17] Sep 1196).  Sénéchal de Flandre 1192.  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1118].  The date of his death is set by the charter dated [17] Sep 1196 which records the donation made by his sister Ansilia, to which his son Hélie consented. 

m (before 1193) SIBYLLE de Flandre, daughter of PIERRE de Flandre Comte de Nevers & his wife Mathilde de Bourgogne [Capet] ([1176]-after 1236).  The Flandria Generosa names "Sibillam filiam [Petri et comitissam de Nevers]"[1119].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the daughter of "Petrus…fratris…comits Flandrie et Viromandie" as "[uxor] Roberto…de Wavrin" but does not name her[1120].  Heiress of Saint-Vlaast, Lillers and Vladslo.  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1121].  "Sibilia de Waverino dompna de Lileriis" confirmed the donation to Furnes abbey made by “dompnus Erlebaldus miles de Scora” by charter dated Oct 1220, witnessed by “Elizabeth de Monte Mirali senescalla Flandrie...[1122].  "Sibilla domina de Wavrin" sold revenue from Santes to Lille Saint-Pierre by charter dated 1225[1123]

Robert [I] & his wife had one child: 

1.         HELIE [IV] de Wavrin (-22 Jan 1222).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "monseignour Pieron...une fille...Sebille" married “monseignour Robert de Waurin senechal de Flandres” by whom she had “i fil...Hellins[1124].  Sénéchal de Flandre.  "…Hellini de Wavrin…" signed the charter dated Apr 1201 under which Baudouin IX Count of Flanders donated property to several monasteries before leaving for Jerusalem[1125]Renaud de Croisilles” agreed to guarantee the good conduct of “Hellin de Wavrin chevalier fils de Sibylle...[et] son fils” to the king by charter dated Mar 1214 (O.S.)[1126]m (1211) ISABELLE de Montmirail, daughter of JEAN de Montmirail Châtelain de Cambrai & his wife Helvise de Dampierre (-after 16 Mar 1223).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "monseignour Pieron...une fille...Sebille" married “monseignour Robert de Waurin senechal de Flandres” by whom she had “i fil...Hellins” who married “la serour monseignour Jehan de Monmiral[1127].  “Guido de Dampetra...et Ioannis nepotis mei de monte Mirelli” notified that Blanche comtesse de Champagne was guarantor for “Hellium de Waurino et matrem eius” for “maritagio uxoris suæ...post decessum...Margaretæ uxoris Galteri de Auesnis” by charter dated Nov 1211[1128].  "Sibilia de Waverino dompna de Lileriis" confirmed the donation to Furnes abbey made by “dompnus Erlebaldus miles de Scora” by charter dated Oct 1220, witnessed by “Elizabeth de Monte Mirali senescalla Flandrie...[1129].  Brassart states that "Ysabella senescalca Flandrensis est indiquée comme veuve d’Hellin sénéchal de Flandre, fils de Sibille dame de Lillers" in a charter dated 16 Mar 1222 (O.S.) for the abbey of Prés de Douai but he does not cite the source[1130].  Hélie [IV] & his wife had three children: 

a)         ROBERT [II] de Wavrin (-[1273]).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]” and his wife “la serour monseignour Jehan de Monmiral” had “li ainsnés des filz...Robert, il tint la terre après son pere[1131]Robert de Wavring sénéchal de Flandre” declared having paid “la dette du châtelain”, with the consent of “Mahaut sa femme veuve de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et des enfans de ladite Mahaut”, by charter dated 1245[1132]m firstly (after 1227) as her second husband, EUSTACHIE de Châtillon, widow of DANIEL de Béthune, daughter of GAUCHER [III] de Châtillon Comte de Saint-Pol & his wife Elisabeth de Saint-Pol.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married “la sereur le conte Huon de Saint Pol qui avoit esté femme lauoé de Betune” and had “i fil et pluseurs filles[1133].  "Eustacia domini Galcheri de Castillione comitis Sti Pauli filia, uxor…Danielis advocati Attrebatensis ac domini Bettuniensis" confirmed her husband’s donation to the canons of Arras by charter dated Feb 1218[1134]m secondly ([Dec 1244/1245]) as her second husband, MATHILDE de Béthune, widow of JEAN [II] Châtelain de Lille et de Péronne, daughter of GUILLAUME de Béthune Seigneur de Pont-Rohard & his wife Elisabeth Dame de Pont-Rohard (-29 Dec after 1267).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles[1135]Robert de Wavring sénéchal de Flandre” declared having paid “la dette du châtelain”, with the consent of “Mahaut sa femme veuve de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et des enfans de ladite Mahaut”, by charter dated 1245[1136]Iehans castellains de Lille chevaliers...et Mehaus me feme” donated property “fief...[de] me...mere Mehaus feme monseigneur Robiert de Varwin le senescal de Flandres” to Marciennes by charter dated Mar 1267[1137].  The necrology of Pontrohart abbey records the death “IV Kal Jan” of “Mathildis castellanæ Insulensis dominæ Ponterohardi et de Molembeka...filiæ...Willermi de Bethunia domini de Ponterohardi, necnon eiusdem uxoris...Elizabeth dominæ de Ponterohardi fundatorum ecclesiæ nostræ” and the donation made by “Rogerii filii sui militis domini de Ponterohardi[1138].  Robert [II] & his first wife had [five or more] children: 

i)          HELIE [VI] de Wavrin ([1228/35?]-[1284]).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married “la sereur le conte Huon de Saint Pol qui avoit esté femme lauoé de Betune” and had “i fil...Hellins” who married “la dame de Malaunoi” and had “i fil et ii filles[1139].  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...frere [dou seneschal Robert]” incurred debts, married “lune de ses filles à i riche bourgois d’Arras” who paid a large part of the debts, although he was eventually obliged to sell his lands[1140]m as her first marriage, MARIE Dame de Malannoy, daughter of --- (-after 1302).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married “la sereur le conte Huon de Saint Pol qui avoit esté femme lauoé de Betune” and had “i fil...Hellins” who married “la dame de Malaunoi” and had “i fil et ii filles[1141].  The marriage contract between "la dame de Wavrin et de Malannoy” and “le chevalier Simon de Cinqourmes”, naming “Jean Crespin oncle de ladite dame”, is dated 7 Jun 1302[1142].  Hélie [VI] & his wife had three children: 

(a)       ROBERT [III] de Wavrin ([1250/60?]-[before 1304]).  "Robiers sires de Wavrin et de Malansnoy” guaranteed debts of “Pierre Hukedieu, Jean et Robert Cosset...” by charter dated 6 Jun 1293[1143]

-         see below

(b)       daughter .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...frere [dou seneschal Robert]” incurred debts, married “lune de ses filles à i riche bourgois d’Arras” who paid a large part of the debts, although he was eventually obliged to sell his lands[1144]

(c)       daughter .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]” married “la dame de Malaunoi” and had “i fil et ii filles[1145]

ii)         [daughter Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne” promised to marry “son fils aîné quand il sera en âge” to “la fille aînée de Robert sénéchal de Flandre quand elle sera en âge”, and to give “le manoir de Sainghin ou d’Erkinghem ou celui du Plouich” to his son before the marriage, by charter dated Feb 1241[1146].  It is not known whether this daughter was the same person as Sibylle who is named below.  Betrothed (Feb 1241) to --- de Lille, son of JEAN [II] Châtelain de Lille et de Péronne & his [first/second wife ---/Mathilde de Béthune].] 

iii)        SIBYLLE de Wavrin .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “secundus filius domini Hugonis de Antoing, Hugo” married "filia senescalli Flandriæ Roberti" by whom he had “filios[1147]m (before 1260) as his first wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy, son of HUGUES [II] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy & his first wife Philippa de Harnes (-[1310]). 

iv)       daughters .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married “la sereur le conte Huon de Saint Pol qui avoit esté femme lauoé de Betune” and had “i fil et pluseurs filles[1148]

Robert [II] & his [first/second] wife had one child: 

v)        ROBERT de Wavrin ([1230/50]-[1308]).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles[1149].  The identity of Robert’s mother is discussed below.  Seigneur de Saint-Venant. 

-         SEIGNEURS de SAINT-VENANT

Robert [II] & his second wife had four children: 

vi)       JEANNE de Wavrin (after 1244-).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles”, of whom one daughter married “monsr Rason de Gaure[1150]m RASO [XI] van Gavre, son of [RASO [IX] de Gavre & his wife ---]. 

vii)      GUILLEMETTE de Wavrin (-16 Feb 1312).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles”, of whom the second daughter married “messires Jehans d’Escornai[1151]m JAN van Gavre Heer van Schorisse, son of ARNOUT van Gavre Heer van Schorisse & his wife --- (-29 Mar 1302). 

viii)     ISABELLE de Wavrin (-after 1 Feb 1304).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles”, of whom the third daughter married “Erart de Beure sires de Waslers[1152]Erar sire de Beveren et de Wallers châtelain de Dixmude et Isabelle de Wavraing sa femme” issued letters dated 1293, confirmed by “Henri de Beveren frère dudit Erar et son héritier apparent” by charter dated Jan 1293 (presumably O.S.)[1153].  “Erar chevalier sire de Beveren et de Wallers castelain de Dyckemue et dame Isabeau de Wavrin” granted transport rights to “Arnoul Brantin” by charter dated 1294[1154].  Guy Count of Flanders notified the disputes between “Ysabeau dame de Bevre et de Wallers femme de monseigneur Erart sire de Bevre” and “Philippe dame de Bevre et de Martigny et monseigneur Jakemon de Werchin sénéchal de Hainaut son baron et avoué” concerning the inheritance of “feu Erart sire de Bevre” by charter dated 1 Feb 1303 (O.S.), which records the appointment as arbitrators of “pour Ysabeau: ledit Guy, Jean sire de Gavre et d’Escornaix, et monseigneur Guillaume de Nevele; pour Philippe et Jakemon: monseigneur Guillaume de Stenhuse et monseigneur Sohier de Leverghem” and the final decision[1155]m ERARD van Beveren Seigneur de Wallers, son of DIRK [IV] van Beveren Châtelain de Dixmude & his wife Marguerite de Brienne (-before 1 Feb 1304).  He succeeded his brother in [1291/93] as Châtelain de Dixmude. 

ix)       --- de Wavrin .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles”, of whom the fourth daughter married “messires Jehans de Gaure, freres monsr Rasson[1156]m JAN van Gavre, son of [RASO [IX] de Gavre & his wife ---]. 

b)         HELIE [V] de Wavrin (-after Jan 1246).  "Hellinus de Wavrain dictus patruus" founded a chapel "apud Wasiers" by charter dated 31 Oct 1229[1157].  Seigneur de Harponlieu.  Brassart states that Hélie "vendit ses biens de Bourgogne au duc Hugues IV" in 1243 but he does not cite the source[1158].  Brassart states that Hélie is named "frère du sénéchal de Flandre" in a charter dated Jan 1245 (O.S.)[1159]m as her second husband, ELISABETH de Béthune, widow of JEAN de Steelant avoué d’Usse, daughter of ROBERT [VII] Seigneur de Béthune & his wife Elisabeth de Morialmes (-before 1300).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...frere [dou seneschal Robert]” married “la fille lauoé Robert de Betune” and had “ii filles[1160].  She married thirdly (before 1284) as his second wife, Hugues [III] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Epinoy.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “secundus filius domini Hugonis de Antoing, Hugo” married secondly "filiam advocati Bethuniæ Roberti, relictam domini Hellini de Waurin"[1161].  Hélie [V] & his wife had three children: 

i)          ROBERT de Wavrin (-after Aug 1269).  Seigneur de Harponlieu.  Goethals states that the testament of Robert, son of Hélie [V], is dated Aug 1269 and names “Mahaut et Isabelle de Wavrin ses deux sœurs, messeigneurs le sénéchal et le connétable ses oncles, monseigneur Michel aussi son oncle, et Jolande, dame de Harnes, sa femme”, but he does not cite the source[1162]

ii)         MATHILDE de Wavrin .  Goethals states that the testament of Robert, son of Hélie [V], is dated Aug 1269 and names “Mahaut et Isabelle de Wavrin ses deux sœurs...”, but he does not cite the source[1163]

iii)        ISABELLE de Wavrin .  Goethals states that the testament of Robert, son of Hélie [V], is dated Aug 1269 and names “Mahaut et Isabelle de Wavrin ses deux sœurs...”, but he does not cite the source[1164]

c)         daughter .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...frere [dou seneschal Robert]...leur sereur” married “monseign Hellin de Chysoing” and had “ii filz...li ainsnés...Hellins et li autres Jehans”, of whom the former married “la sereur monsr Rasson de Gaure le pere” and had “ii filz...li ainsnés...Ernoulz et li autres Hellins[1165]m HELIE de Cysoing, son of ---. 

 

 

ROBERT [III] de Wavrin, son of HELIE [VI] de Wavrin & his wife Marie Dame de Malannoy ([1250/60?]-[before 1304])Seigneur de Wavrin, de Lillers et de Malannoy.  "Robiers sires de Wavrin et de Malansnoy” guaranteed debts of “Pierre Hukedieu, Jean et Robert Cosset...” by charter dated 6 Jun 1293[1166]

m ISABELLE de Croisilles, daughter of ---.  Goethals records her family origin and marriage, without citing the source on which the information is based[1167]

Robert [III] & his wife had three children: 

1.         ROBERT [IV] de Wavrin (-after 1326).  Seigneur de Wavrin, de Lillers et de Malannoy.  m ---.  The name of Robert’s wife is not known.  Père Anselme records “Alix de Quiéret” as wife of Robert [IV] without citing any source which confirms the information[1168].  Robert [IV] & his wife had two children:

a)         ROBERT [V] de Wavrin (-[Apr 1360/20 Apr 1364])Seigneur de Wavrin, de Lillers et de Malannoy.  Père Anselme records that Robert [V] de Wavrin “partagea les biens de ses pere et mere avec Pierre son frere” by charter dated late Jun 1348[1169]Froissart names "li sires de Wauurin” taking part in “une sortie de Paris contre le roi d’Angleterre” in Apr 1360[1170]He died before the 20 Apr 1364 chartrer quoted below which records his brother Guillaume as guardian of his son Robert [VI].  m ([1349]) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Fiennes, widow of GUILLAUME de Mortagne Seigneur de Dossemer, daughter of [JEAN de Fiennes Châtelain de Bourbourg & his wife Isabelle de Flandre] (before 1323-[1360]).  Her two marriages are confirmed by the following: accounts dated 1349 record "Monsr. de Waurin qui a pris me dame qui fu femme monsr Will de Dossemer” for “le bail de le tere de Dourier...tenue du castel de Hesdin en fief[1171].  The primary source which confirms her family origin has not been identified.  The date of her second marriage suggests that Isabelle was the daughter of Jean de Fiennes.  Her first marriage is confirmed by accounts dated 1382 which name [her daughter] "madame Yolent de Mortaigne, dame du Quesnoy” for “[le] fief de Dourier, esqueu à ledite dame par le succession de monsr de Waurin jadis son frere[1172]Brassart notes that Yolande de Mortagne married "Gossuin sire du Quesnoy et de Braffe chevalier, avec lequel elle vivait en 1371[1173].  Robert [V] & his wife had one child: 

i)          ROBERT [VI] de Wavrin (-killed in battle Roosebeke before 22 Mar 1383).  Seigneur de Wavrin, de Lillers et de Malannoy.  A charter dated 20 Apr 1364 names "Waurin, Willem tenant le bailg de Robert son neveu[1174]Froissart names “le signeur de Wavrin...banerés françois” took part in the capture of Ardres from the English [7 Sep 1377], “monsr. de Wauerin chlr...” at Thérouanne 30 Oct 1381[1175].  "Robert de Waurin, chlr” received payments for his service 7 Feb 1381 (O.S.)[1176]Froissart records the death in battle of "li sires de Wavrin, banerés” at Roosebeke in 1382, supporting the French against English and Flemish troops[1177].  The 22 Mar 1383 charter quoted below records his uncle Pierre swearing allegiance for Wavrin and Lillers, indicating that Robert [VI] was deceased. 

b)         GUILLAUME de Wavrin (-[3 Aug 1364/Jan 1365])A charter dated 20 Apr 1364 names "Waurin, Willem tenant le bailg de Robert son neveu[1178]Chrétien Ducange, receveur du Roi à Amiens” paid “ses gages mensuel” to Guillaume de Wavrin, serving under the seigneur d’Aubigny, dated 3 Aug 1364[1179]m as her first husband, YOLANDE de Lens, daughter of GERARD van Rasseghem Seigneur de Lens & his first wife Adelise van Gavre (-[1388]).  Goethals records Yolande as the daughter of Gerard van Gavre (no sources cited)[1180].  The following documents indicate that she must have been the daughter of Gerard van Rasseghem Seigneur de Lens.  A summary of a charter dated 1363 [incorrect date in view of the next source] records the successive marriages of “Yolande de Lens” to Guillaume de Wavrin and Jean Seigneur de Barbançon[1181].  She is named “madame de Barbencon, alors sans postérité” in the 26 Feb 1364 (O.S.) marriage contract of Willem van Gavre and Jeanne de Berlo[1182]Letters dated Oct 1387 relating to the succession of “feu...Michel iadis Signeur de Ligne et...Alienor de Couchy Dame de Ligne et Vicontesse de Miaux”record the daughters of “Iehan Seigneur de Barbenchon et...Yolens de Lens sa...compaigne[1183].  The identity of her mother is confirmed by the tomb of [her grandson] Jean de Ligne at Récollets which displays his arms quartering “Ligne, Morialmé, Barbançon, Gavre, Schleiden, Jülich-Blankenheim, Rasseghem, Argues [=Dargies][1184], “...Gavre...Rasseghem...” indicating the marriage of Gerard van Rasseghem/Adelise van Gavre. 

c)         PIERRE de Wavrin (-[22 Mar 1383/27 Apr 1385], but Bouvez-lez-Lillers).  Père Anselme records that Robert [V] de Wavrin “partagea les biens de ses pere et mere avec Pierre son frere” by charter dated late Jun 1348[1185]Seigneur de Wavrin et de Lillers.  Pierre de Wavrin and “Robert de Waurin filz de Pierre de Waurin” swore homage to the count of Flanders for "le fief de Lillers et de Malannoy...le terre de Waurin...Buury [Beuvry]” after the death of “feu le seigneur de Waurin...nepveu audit Pierre de Wavrinat Lille 22 Mar 1382 (O.S.)[1186].  The 27 Apr 1385 document quoted below names his son as seigneur de Wavrin, indicating that Pierre was deceased.  Père Anselme records that Pierre de Wavrin died “à la bataille de Rosebecq l’an 1383 et fut enterré à Bouvez-les-Lillers[1187].  The 22 Mar 1282 (O.S.) charter quoted above indicates that Pierre survived his nephew Robert [VI], whose death in the same battle is recorded above.  Maybe Pierre was injured in the battle and died from his wounds soon afterwards.  m MARIE d’Arleux, daughter of ---.  Père Anselme records that Pierre de Wavrin married “Marie d’Arleux, suivant les obituaires de l’abbaye de Ham et du chapitre de Lillers[1188].  Pierre & his wife had [four] children: 

i)          ROBERT [VII] de Wavrin (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415)Pierre de Wavrin and “Robert de Waurin filz de Pierre de Waurin” swore homage to the count of Flanders for "le fief de Lillers et de Malannoy...le terre de Waurin...Buury [Beuvry]” after the death of “feu le seigneur de Waurin...nepveu audit Pierre de Wavrinat Lille 22 Mar 1382 (O.S.)[1189]Seigneur de Wavrin et de Lillers.   

-         see below

ii)         JEANNE de Wavrin ([1362]-after 20 Feb 1443).  “Noble damoiselle Jehanne de Wavrin damoiselle de Fillomés et de Berguettes...foible et anchienne de quatre vingts ans” ceded her claim "sur la terre de Saint-Venant, relevant d’Aire” to “son petit-neveu fils de sa nièce Béatrix dame de Wavrin”, recording that “Jehanne de Waurin dame de Roisinbois et de Froumelles...moult anchienne” renounced her rights, by charter dated 22 Feb 1442 (O.S.)[1190]Père Anselme names her “heritière de Jeanne de Nesle dame de S. Venant[1191]

iii)        JEANNE de Wavrin (-after 20 Feb 1443).  Noble damoiselle Jehanne de Wavrin damoiselle de Fillomés et de Berguettes...foible et anchienne de quatre vingts ans” ceded her claim "sur la terre de Saint-Venant, relevant d’Aire” to “son petit-neveu fils de sa nièce Béatrix dame de Wavrin”, recording that “Jehanne de Waurin dame de Roizinbois et de Froumelles...moult anchienne” renounced her rights, by charter dated 22 Feb 1442 (O.S.)[1192]m JEAN Seigneur de Roisinbois, son of --- (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415). 

iv)       [EUSTACHIE de WavrinPère Anselme records her parentage and marriage without citing any source which confirms the information[1193]m THIERRY de Saint-Omer Seigneur de Morbeck, son of ---.] 

2.         SOPHIE de Wavrin ([1275-90?]- ----, bur Cambron).  Goethals records her parentage and marriage, noting that she was the sister of Wilhelmine de Wavrin, wife of Jean de Gavre Seigneur d’Escornaix, without citing the source on which the information is based[1194].  Her birth date is estimated approximately based on the probable birth dates of her father and paternal grandfather.  m JAN [II] van Gavre Seigneur de Hérimez, son of JAN [I] de Gavre Seigneur de Hérimez & his second wife Sibylle de Lille ([1280?]-[10 Oct 1333, bur Cambron]). 

3.         WILHELMINE de Wavrin (-after 17 Oct 1298)Guy Count of Flanders granted revenue from la terre de Wavrin, appartenante à ladite Wilhelmine” to “Jean de Gavre Sire d’Escornay et à madame Willelmine sa femme” by charter dated 17 Oct 1298[1195].  An epitaph at Oudenaarde records the burial of “Jan de Gavre sire d’Escornaij” who died 1301 [?] and “Willemine de Wavrin sa femme[1196]m JEAN de Gavre Seigneur d’Escornaix, son of --- (-1310). 

 

 

ROBERT [VII] de Wavrin, son of PIERRE Seigneur de Wavrin & his wife Marie d’Arleux (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415)Pierre de Wavrin and “Robert de Waurin filz de Pierre de Waurin” swore homage to the count of Flanders for "le fief de Lillers et de Malannoy...le terre de Waurin...Buury [Beuvry]” after the death of “feu le seigneur de Waurin...nepveu audit Pierre de Wavrinat Lille 22 Mar 1382 (O.S.)[1197]Seigneur de Wavrin et de Lillers.  “Robert sire de Waurin chlr” acknowledged receipt of payment "pour le passage d’Escoce, en la compagnie...de messire Jehan de Vienne admiral de France”, dated 27 Apr 1385[1198]Robert seigneur de Waurin chlr...banneret” acknowledged receipt of payment for services to the king "en ses presentes guerres...en la compagnie...[du] duc de Bourgoingne”, dated 12 Jun 1412[1199].  Brassart records that Robert [VII] was killed with his son Robert at Azincourt[1200]

m firstly MARGUERITE bâtarde de Flandre, illegitimate daughter of LOUIS II Count of Flanders & his mistress --- (-[1388]).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, and death in 1388, without citing any source which confirms the information[1201]

m secondly ([24 Jun 1390/2 Feb 1391]) JEANNE de Caucourt, daughter of ---.  Accounts at Arras dated [24 Jun 1390/2 Feb 1391] record payments made by “[le] seigneur de Wavrin” relating to his marriage contract with "demoise Jehane de Caucourt”, noting her dower of revenue “sur sa terre de Lillers”, with the consent of Philippe II Duke of Burgundy[1202]

Robert [VII] & his first wife had two children: 

1.         ROBERT [VIII] de Wavrin (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415)m as her first husband, JEANNE de Créquy Dame de Bugnicourt, daughter of JEAN [IV] Seigneur de Créquy & his wife Jeanne de Roye (-21 Oct 1495, bur Lalaing).  Goethals records her parentage and two marriages, without citing the sources on which this information is based[1203].  She married secondly (after 1415) Guillaume Seigneur de Lalaing.  An epitaph at Lalaing records the burials of “Guillaume seigneur de Lalaing” who died 27 Aug 1473 and “Jehene de Crequy dame de Lalaing sa...epeuse” who died 21 Oct 1495[1204]

2.         BEATRIX de Wavrin (-bur Lillers).  Her parentage is confirmed and her marriage indicated by the 22 Feb 1442 (O.S.) charter quoted above.  Père Anselme indicates that Beatrix was the daughter of Robert [VIII] de Wavrin and his wife[1205], which appears impossible chronologically.  Dame de Wavrin, de Lillers et de Malannoy.  Brassart indicates that “son fils Wallerand né vers 1418” was "la tige de la seconde maison de Wavrin, éteinte en l’an 1500 dans la personne de son chef Philippe sire de Wavrin, de Lillers, de Malannoy et de Saint-Venant[1206].  Père Anselme records this couple’s descendants, noting that Philippe Seigneur de Wavrin mortgaged his lands to Charles de Croÿ Prince de Chimay who granted it to his daughter Marguerite on her marriage to Charles Comte de Lalaing[1207]m GILLES Seigneur de Berlettes, son of ---. 

Robert [VII] & his second wife had one child: 

3.         JEANNE de Wavrin (-[1421]).  Brassart indicates her parentage, marriage, and approximate date of death, noting that her husband “fit un acte de relief pour le fief de Lillers et de Malannoy, au nom de son fils Antoine, héritier de sa mère” by charter dated 1423[1208]m ([1416]) GAUTHIER de Rouvroy Seigneur de Saint-Simon et de Rache-lez-Douai, son of MATHIEU de Rouvroy Seigneur de Saint-Simon & his wife Jeanne de Haveskerque (-after 5 Jan 1458, bur Saint-Quentin). 

 

 

 

E.      SEIGNEURS de SAINT-VENANT (WAVRIN)

 

 

ROBERT de Wavrin, son of ROBERT [II] de Wavrin & his [first wife Eustachie de Châtillon/second wife Mathilde de Béthune] ([1230/50]-[1308]).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Hellins [de Waurin]...li ainsnés des filz...Robert” married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “la fille monseignour Guill de Bethune qui avoit esté femme le chastelain de Lisle” and had “i fil...Robers et pluseurs filles[1209].  The identity of Robert’s mother is uncertain.  Goethals lists Robert among the children of his father’s first marriage[1210]Brassart, on the other hand, names the second wife of Robert [II] de Wavrin as his mother[1211].  The question revolves around the Nov 1279 charter quoted below in which Robert names “Jehans castelains de Lille mes nies” [Jean [IV] Châtelain de Lille], whose father was the son of Robert [II]’s second wife by her second marriage.  Goethals names “Mathilde...de Lille fille de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et de Mahaut de Bethune” as the wife of Robert de Wavrin Seigneur de Saint-Venant (without citing any source on which this information is based)[1212].  The problem with Goethals theory is that the Nov 1279 charter predates the Apr 1282 charter which names Robert’s wife as Marie de Roye: in 1279, Jean [IV] Châtelain de Lille would only have been Robert’s nephew if he and Robert had shared the same mother.  If Robert’s mother was Eustachie de Châtillon, Robert would have been born in the early part of the estimated birth date range shown above.  If Mathilde de Béthune was his mother, he would presumably have been born in [1245/50].  Seigneur de Dranoutere: “Robiers de Wavrin chevaliers sires de Drauenoutre” confirmed that “Jehans castelains de Lille mes nies” had sold revenue from “le parroche de Wategnies” to Lille Saint-Pierre by charter dated Nov 1279[1213]Seigneur de Saint-Venant.  Guy Count of Flanders confirmed the sale of revenue “partie de son fief de Vlargelo dans les paroisses de Schore et de Kayhem” to Lille abbey made by “messire Robert de Wavrin Sire de Saint-Venant”, making provision for “Marie de Roye sa femme” should Robert predecease her, by charter dated Apr 1282[1214]

m [firstly] MARIE de Roye, daughter of [JEAN [I] Seigneur de Roye & his wife --- de Hangest] (-after Apr 1282).  Guy Count of Flanders confirmed the sale of revenue “partie de son fief de Vlargelo dans les paroisses de Schore et de Kayhem” to Lille abbey made by “messire Robert de Wavrin Sire de Saint-Venant”, making provision for “Marie de Roye sa femme” should Robert predecease her, by charter dated Apr 1282[1215].  Goethals names Jean Seigneur de Roye and his wife “l’héritière de Hangest” as her parents[1216]

[m secondly (after Apr 1282) MATHILDE de Lille, daughter of JEAN [II] Châtelain de Lille & his wife Mathilde de Béthune (-after 12 Mar 1293).  Goethals names “Mathilde...de Lille fille de Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et de Mahaut de Bethune” as the wife of Robert de Wavrin Seigneur de Saint-Venant[1217].  He cites no source which confirms this information, and, in light of the discussion about Robert’s mother (see above), one wonders whether Goethals speculated on this marriage in order to justify his position on that question.  None of the sources quoted below name Mathilde as Robert’s wife, and Brassart makes the additional point that Mathilde would have been called “dame” not “demoiselle” in the 12 Mar 1292 (O.S.) charter if she had been married (a point which is debatable)[1218]. In conclusion, it is probably safer to consider this marriage as speculative unless further sources emerge to throw new light on the matter.  “Arnoul sire de Mortagne et châtelain de Tournai” promised to indemnify “Bauduin seigneur de Comines son cousin” for the sum for which he had guaranteed “Isabelle et Mahaut enfants de Mahaut châtelaine de Lille et de Péronne” by charter dated Mar 1254[1219].  A charter dated 23 Oct 1270 confirmed that the sums donated under the charter dated Mar 1254 had been bequeathed to Isabelle and Mathilde by “li castelains Jehans pères le castelain et les demizieles devant dites[1220].  Guy Count of Flanders confirmed that “damoiselle Mehaut jadis fille au chastellain de Lille et de Piéronne” acknowledged a debt due to her (“le tière de le conté à Hierlies”) from “mes...frères Jehans de boine memoire jadis chastellains de Lille...pour le raison de men mariage”, that “mes...niés Jehans de boine mémore jadis chastellains de Lille et fius aisnés à men...frère” had requested not to alienate the sum, and that now she granted it to “Jehan chastellain de Lille”, by charter dated 12 Mar 1292 (O.S.)[1221].  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  Brassart indicates that this marriage is impossible.  He assumes that her supposed husband was born from his father’s second marriage and also that Mathilde was unmarried because she was

Robert [I] & his [first wife] had children: 

1.         ROBERT [II] de Wavrin (-before 1316).  Seigneur de Saint-Venantm [MARIE de Roye, daughter of --- (-after 1324).  Brassart records her family origin and marriage, noting that she was named as a widow in 1316 and 1324, without citing any sources which confirm the information[1222].  Goethals does not name her in his review of the Roye genealogy.  Note that “Marie de Roye” is named as wife of Robert [I] (see above.]  Robert [II] & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT [III] de Wavrin (-[1370]).  Seigneur de Saint-Venant.  Maréchal de France 1342, 1345, 1346, and 1358.  Sénéchal de Flandre[1223]m ---.  The name of Robert’s wife is not known.  Robert [III] & his wife had one child: 

i)          ALIX de Wavrin (-after 1390).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage, noting that one of her sons “Guilles de Nelle cambellens du roy et castellains de Douay” certified that his late mother had been “cousine en autre (issue de germain) de Robert de Saint-Venant dit Markant” in an enquiry 18 Nov 1396[1224]Dame de Saint-Venantm GUILLAUME de Clermont dit de Nesle Seigneur du Sauchoy, son of JEAN de Nesle Seigneur d’Offemont [Clermont] & his [second] wife Marguerite de Mello (-killed in battle Poitiers 1356). 

b)         DREUX de Wavrin (-after 1332). 

c)         MATHIEU de Wavrin (-before 1349).  Seigneur d’Armentières (part) 1330.  m JEANNE de la Haye, daughter of --- (-after 1352).  Brassart records her family origin and marriage, noting that she was named as a widow in 1349 and 1352 “ayant le bail de ses enfants mineurs[1225].  Mathieu & his wife had children: 

i)          JEAN de Saint-Venant (-14 Mar [1383/84], bur Marquette).  Jean écuyer fils et hoir du feu chevalier Mahieu de Saint-Venant” was named in charters dated 1349 and 1352[1226].  Seigneur du Liemont.  m JEANNE Le Prévost, daughter of --- (-before 5 Mar 1392).  Dame Jhe Li Preuoste vesve de feu monss. Jehan de St Venant” confirmed donations made to Marquette by her husband by charter dated 13 Jul 1384[1227].  Her date of death is indicated by the following document: Rogier Le Preuost sires de Campinghehem chlrs” confirmed donations made to Marquette by “deffuncts monsr Jaques Le Preuost mon...pere...[et] messire Jehan de Saint Venant chlr...[et par sa femme] deffuncte madame Jehenne Le Preuoste dame du Liemon...sa seur” by charter dated 5 Mar 1391 (O.S.?)[1228]

ii)         [JEANNE de Saint-Venant (-[1394/21 Nov 1396]).  Brassart suggests her parentage and marriage, noting that her son certified that she had been cousin of “Robert de Saint-Venant dit Markant” in an enquiry 21 Nov 1396[1229]m PIERRE de Haverskerque dit de Wisquette Seigneur d’Erre et de Rache-lez-Douai, Châtelain d’Orchies, son of --- (-[1361/72]).] 

2.         [ANNE [Jeanne] de Wavrin .  Duchesne names Catherine as daughter of “Jean Malet II...seigneur de Gueraville, Sées et Bernay...[et sa] femme Anne de S. Venant fille de Robert Seigneur de Sainct-Venant” as wife of “Jean Malet II...seigneur de Gueraville, Sées et Bernay[1230].  Père Anselme names her “Anne alias Jeanne de Wavrin fille de Robert de Wavrin seigneur de S. Venant”, noting that her husband through her received payments from the treasury in Mar 1315, which were due from “la forêt de Fontaines au pays de Caux” in 1317[1231].  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  m JEAN [II] Malet Seigneur de Graville, son of [JEAN [I] Malet Seigneur de Graville & his wife --- (-after 1328).] 

 

 

 

F.      SEIGNEURS de SAINT-VENANT (NESLE)

 

 

GUILLAUME de Nesle, son of JEAN de Nesle Seigneur d’Offémont [Clermont] & his [second] wife Marguerite dame de Mello (-killed in battle Poitiers 1356).  Seigneur du Sauchoy.  Seigneur de Saint-Venant, de iure uxoris.  The Chronique des règnes de Jean II et de Charles V records that “messire Guy de Neelle mareschal de France” was defeated at Saintonge by the English in 1351 and captured with “monseigneur Guillaume son frere...[1232]

m ALIX de Wavrin Dame de Saint-Venant, daughter of ROBERT [III] de Wavrin Seigneur de Saint-Venant, Maréchal de France & his wife --- (-after 1390).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage, noting that one of her sons “Guilles de Nelle cambellens du roy et castellains de Douay” certified that his late mother had been “cousine en autre (issue de germain) de Robert de Saint-Venant dit Markant” in an enquiry 18 Nov 1396[1233]

Guillaume & his wife had two children:

1.         ROBERT de Nesle (-[4 Jan 1378/Sep 1379]).  Père Anselme records his parentage, noting that Robert “chevalier sire du Saussoy et de Neufville en Lannois” appointed a proxy for himself and his wife  to receive payment for the sale to the king of “la terre de Fleury en Montagne près Reims” by charter dated 4 Jan 1377 (presumably O.S.)[1234].  Seigneur de Saint-Venant et du Sauchoy.  He predeceased his wife as noted below.  m IDE de Dormans, daughter of GUILLAUME Seigneur de Dormans & his wife Jeanne Baube Dame de Silly (-8 Oct 1379).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, noting her date of death “veuve[1235].  Robert & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEAN de Nesle (-[Nikopolis 26 Sep] 1396)Père Anselme records his parentage and death “au voyage de Hongire en 1396[1236].  Seigneur de Saint-Venant et du Sauchoy.  m as her first husband, JEANNE de Trie, daughter of MATHIEU de Trie Seigneur de Serifontaine & his second wife Jeanne de la Roche-Guyon.  Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages, noting that her first husband died “au voyage de Hongrie en 1396” (no sources cited)[1237].  Morandière records her parentage and two marriages, stating that her first husband died at Nikopolis (no sources cited)[1238].  She married secondly ([1401]) Colart [IV] d’Estouteville.  Jean had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress: 

i)          LEONEL bâtard de Nesle .  Père Anselme records his parentage, noting that his cousin Jeanne bequeathed “l’usufruit de la terre de S. Venant” to him[1239]

2.         GUILLAUME de Nesle (-after 1401).  Père Anselme records his parentage, noting that in 1374 he and his brother were excused for damage caused at Saint-Venant and in 1401 disputed debts left by his brother, and that he was “chastelain de Douay à cause de sa femme” (no source citations)[1240].  Seigneur de Saint-Venant et du Sauchoy.  m MATHILDE de Wavrin Dame de Goussancourt, daughter of HECTOR de Wavrin Seigneur de Goisaucourt & his wife ---.  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[1241].  Guillaume & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEANNE de Nesle (-[after 1440?]).  Père Anselme records her parentage and three marriages, noting her first husband’s testament dated Jul 1415, that her second husband had been “domestique de son premier mari”, that she married her third husband when she was more than 60 and he less than 21, and that she and her third husband sold (undated) Saint-Venant to “Colart de Commines [Colard de la Clyte Comines, died [1 Mar 1454/12 Aug 1456], see the document NORTHERN FRANCE-BERGUES, CASSEL, BETHUNE, LILLE], en reservant l’usufruit à Leonel bâtard de Neelle” (no source citations)[1242].  Dame de Saint-Venant et du Sauchoy.  m firstly ([1401]) ROBERT de Bologne dit le Tirant Seigneur de Tronquoy, de Fressy, de Méry, d’Aussevilliers et de Defforts, son of --- (-after Jul 1415).  Père Anselme records a dispute between “Robinet de Bologne dit le Tyran, au nom de sa femme” and “Colart d’Estouteville” [second husband of Jeanne de Trie, wife of Jean de Nesle (see above)] in 1402[1243]m secondly JEAN Piau, son of ---.  m thirdly ROBERT bâtard de Saveuse, son of ---. 

 

 

 

G.      SEIGNEURS de HEUDINCOURT et de WAZIERS (WAVRIN)

 

 

HELIE de Wavrin, son of HELIE [III] de Wavrin Seneschal of Flanders & his wife Torsella d'Arras (-after Jun 1230).  "Robertus de Wavrin dominus Lilerii et scenescalcus Flandrie" freed two serfs, with the consent of "uxore mea Sibilia…etiam…fratre meo Hellino et Hildiarde et Maroia et Ada sororibus meus et R. de Senghin et Gossuino patruis meis et A. de Meallens et Y. de Spineto amitis meis", by charter dated 1193[1244].  "Johannes...Insulensis castellanus" attested that "domina Ansilia nobilis mulier de Spineto" had donated land to Gand Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "Robberti et Gosuini fratrum suorum et Hellini de Wauerin nepotis sui" by charter dated [17] Sep 1196[1245].  Seigneur de Heudincourt: "Hellinus miles dns de Heudincourt" is named in an 1198 charter, and “Hellinus de Waurin dns de Heudincort” in 1212[1246]Renaud de Croisilles” agreed to guarantee the good conduct of “Hellin de Wavrin chevalier fils de Sibylle...[et] son fils” and of “Hellin de Wavrin l’oncle” to the king by charter dated Mar 1214 (O.S.)[1247].  Seigneur de Waziers: "Hellinus de Wasiers miles dictus Avunculus" is named in a Jun 1230 charter of Arras[1248]

m M---, daughter of --- (-after 1220).  Brassart cites a charter dated 1220 in which "M" is named as Hélie’s wife[1249]

Hélie & his wife had two children: 

1.         HELIE [II] de Waziers dit Merlin (-[1237/Mar 1240]).  Brassart records his parentage, noting his disputes in [1237] with Douai concerning the seigneurie de Waziers[1250].  Seigneur de Heudincourt.  m MARGUERITE, daughter of --- (-after Jan 1257.  Brassart records her marriage, noting that she was named a widow in Mar 1239 (O.S.)[1251].  “Margareta domina de Heudincourt” issued a charter dated Jan 1256 (O.S.?)[1252]

2.         ROBERT de Waziers (-[1249/70]).  Brassart records his parentage, citing charters dated 1243 and 1249 in which he was named[1253].  Seigneur de Raimbaucourt.  m BEATRIX Dame d’Hornaing, daughter of GAUTHIER Seigneur d’Hornaing & his wife Marie --- (-after 1270).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage, noting that she was named a widow in 1270[1254].  Robert & his wife had one child: 

a)         MARIE de Waziers (-after 1287).  Brassart records her parentage and marriage, citing a charter dated 1287 in which she was named[1255].  Dame d’Hornaing et de Raumbaucourt.  m GERARD Seigneur de Viane, son of ---. 

 

 

Primary sources which confirm the parentage of the following persons have not been found. 

 

1.         ROBERT de Waziers (-after 1245).  Seigneur de Waziers.  Brassart records his mention as such in 1245, commenting that “il ne paraît pas avoir obtenu la dignité de chevalier[1256]

 

2.         HELIE [III] de Wavrin (-before 1286).  Seigneur de Waziers.  Brassart records that “le connétable de Flandre” acted as “baux et comme co-héritier du jeune Hellin de Waziers” in [1260][1257]

-        SEIGNEURS de COMINES

 

3.         --- de Waziers .  Baudouin d’Avesnes records that “Guilelmus”, second of “Gerardus” and his wife “Bertam filiam domini Gobberti de Bivel [poor transcription]”, married “filiam domini de Wasiers[1258].  Brassart identifies her father as Hélie [III] de Waziers[1259].  From a chronological point of view, Brassart’s suggestion seems unlikely to be correct: the birth of the mother of Guillaume de Jauche is estimated to “[after 1219?]” based on the chronology of the Jauche and Rioul families, which suggests the birth of her son Guillaume in the 1240s.  Assuming that Guillaume and his wife were roughly of the same age, it is more likely that her father belonged to the previous generation.  m GUILLAUME de Jauche Seigneur de Gommegnies, son of GERARD Seigneur de Jauche & his wife Berthe de Rioul (-after 1278).

 

 

 

H.      SEIGNEURS de GOISECOURT (WAVRIN)

 

 

1.         JEAN de Wavrin (-before Nov 1273).  Marguerite Ctss of Flanders donated a wood “juxta nemis viri nobilis Johannis de Waverinio militis, fidelis nostri” to Flines by charter dated 28 Aug 1257[1260].  Marguerite Ctss of Flanders donated remaining parts of the wood “de Rasscia...juxta  nemis viri nobilis Johannis de Wavrinio” to Flines by charter dated Feb 1258 (O.S.)[1261].  Marguerite Ctss of Flanders confirmed the donation of property “ki gisent daleis le bos monsigneur Jehan de Waverin ki fu” to Flines by charter dated 6 Apr 1274[1262]m ---.  The name of Jean’s wife is not known.  Jean & his wife had one child: 

a)         HELIE de Wavrin (-after Jan 1314).  “Hellin de Wavrin fius monsigneur Jehan de Wavrin chevalier ki fu” sold property to “un bourgeois de Douai” by charter dated Nov 1273[1263].  Seigneur de Goisecourt.  Philippe IV King of France relinquished “l’hommage et la haute justice de ce que le chevalier Hellin sire de Goisecourt tenait à Landas” to “[le] sire de Landas” by charter dated Jan 1313 (O.S.)[1264]

 

2.         HELIE de Goisecourt (-after Jun 1336).  “Monseigneur Hellin de Goysiaucourt” was named as guarantor in a charter dated Aug 1330 recording a sale to Vicogne of property at Landas[1265].  “Le chevalier Willaume de Raisse” bought woods at Landas from “Hellin de Ghoisaucourt” by charter dated Jun 1336[1266]

 

3.         JEAN de Goisecourt (-after 16 Aug 1332).  “Chevalier Jean de Goisaucourt, Hellin et Hector ses fils” were named in a charter dated 16 Aug 1332 which records a judgment made by “le bailli de Douai et d’Orchies[1267].  m ---.  The name of Jean’s wife is not known.  Jean & his wife had two children: 

a)         HELIE de Goisecourt .  “Chevalier Jean de Goisaucourt, Hellin et Hector ses fils” were named in a charter dated 16 Aug 1332 which records a judgment made by “le bailli de Douai et d’Orchies[1268]

b)         HECTOR de Goisecourt (-after 17 Jun 1367/18 Feb 1368]).  “Chevalier Jean de Goisaucourt, Hellin et Hector ses fils” were named in a charter dated 16 Aug 1332 which records a judgment made by “le bailli de Douai et d’Orchies[1269].  Accounts of the grand bailliage de Hainaut dated 17 Jun 1367/18 Feb 1368 record a sum “donné par monsr de Ham sur monsr Hector de Goissaucourt[1270]

 

4.         HECTOR de Wavrinm ---.  Hector & his wife had one child: 

a)         MATHILDE de Wavrin Dame de Goisecourt.  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, noting that her husband was Châtelain de Douai “à cause de sa femme” (no sources cited)[1271].  m GUILLAUME de Nesle Seigneur de Saint-Venant, son of GUILLAUME de Nesle Seigneur de Sauchoy et de Saint-Venant & his wife Alix de Wavrin Dame de Saint-Venant (-after 1401). 

 

5.         ALARD de Wavrin dit de Goisecourt .  Accounts of the grand bailliage de Douai dated 8 Jan/7 May 1397 record “Allart de Wavrin dit de Goisaucourt” selling “le demi-quint du fief de Goisaucourt (à Landas et mouvant de Douai)” to “[le] seigneur de Landas[1272]

 

6.         MARIE de Wavrin dite de Goisecourt .  A document dated 5 Apr 1410 records “Marie de Wavrin dit[e] de Goisaucourt, veuve de Jean Lyauwart dit Barult, avec quatre enfants dudit feu” swearing[1273]

 

 

 

 



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[2] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XX, p. 20. 

[3] Rymer (1745), Tome I, Pars I, p. 1. 

[4] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 221. 

[5] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 226. 

[6] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 231. 

[7] Chronica Monasterii Watinensis 13, MGH SS XIV, p. 168. 

[8] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber IX, Cap. IV, p. 593. 

[9] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, XLII, p. 274. 

[10] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, XXXV, p. 522. 

[11] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[12] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXVI, p. 198. 

[13] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 91. 

[14] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXXIII, p. 204. 

[15] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXXV, p. 207. 

[16] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[17] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, LXV, p. 186. 

[18] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 147. 

[19] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 147. 

[20] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 175. 

[21] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 207. 

[22] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 230. 

[23] Kervyn de Lettenhove, J. B. M. (1875) Les chroniques de Jehan Froissart, Vol. 21 (Brussels), pp. 212, 216. 

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[26] Goethals Dictionnaire, Tome II (1849), no page numbers, 389/902 in the digitalised copy. 

[27] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 12. 

[28] Bonvarlet & Bouly de Lesdain ‘Hondschoote’ (1897). 

[29] Arras Saint-Vaast (Guimann), p. 406. 

[30] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[31] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[32] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[33] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[34] Arras Saint-Vaast (Guimann), p. 406. 

[35] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[36] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 146, MGH SS XXIV, p. 636. 

[37] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[38] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 48, MGH SS XXIV, p. 585. 

[39] Roger (1845), H, p. 211, citing “Charte d’Acre 1191”. 

[40] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CLIV, p. 740. 

[41] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CLIV, p. 740. 

[42] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CLIV, p. 740. 

[43] Coussemaker ‘Watten’ (1860), p. 317. 

[44] Coussemaker ‘Watten’ (1860), p. 317. 

[45] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CLIV, p. 740. 

[46] Le Carpentier (1664), Part III, p. 1059 [no source citation]. 

[47] Bonvarlet & Bouly de Lesdain ‘Hondschoote’ (1897), p. 138. 

[48] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 747. 

[49] Bonvarlet & Bouly de Lesdain ‘Hondschoote’ (1897), p. 138. 

[50] Le Carpentier (1664), Part III, p. 670 [no source citation]. 

[51] Le Carpentier (1664), Part III, p. 670 [no source citation]. 

[52] Viard (1917), 2282, col. 400. 

[53] Viard (1917), 3989, col. 682. 

[54] Viard (1917), 5399, col. 900. 

[55] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 184. 

[56] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 301. 

[57] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 184. 

[58] Lalaing (1849) Maldeghem, Chartes et documents, p. 411. 

[59] Bonvarlet & Bouly de Lesdain ‘Hondschoote’ (1897), p. 142. 

[60] Cassiaux (1777), Tome I, p. 734, citing “Répert. des titres de la maison de Melun - art. accords, p. 305”. 

[61] Cassiaux (1777), Tome I, p. 734, citing “Répert. des titres de la maison de Melun - art. accords, p. 305”. 

[62] Cassiaux (1777), Tome I, p. 734, citing “Répert. des titres de la maison de Melun - art. accords, p. 305”. 

[63] Bonvarlet & Bouly de Lesdain ‘Hondschoote’ (1897), p. 142. 

[64] Van Duyse & Busscher (1867), 436, p. 153. 

[65] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 188. 

[66] Smyttère 'Cassel' (1866), p. 322. 

[67] Reiffenberg (1838), Tome II, p. 811. 

[68] Smyttère 'Cassel' (1866), p. 322. 

[69] Reiffenberg (1838), Tome II, p. 811. 

[70] Smyttère 'Cassel' (1866), p. 300. 

[71] Smyttère 'Cassel' (1866), p. 318. 

[72] Reiffenberg (1838), Tome II, p. 811. 

[73] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 228. 

[74] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 56. 

[75] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 264. 

[76] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 209. 

[77] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXX, p. 201. 

[78] RHGF, Tome XIV, XLII, p. 342. 

[79] Gand Saint-Pierre, 284, p. 162. 

[80] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 175. 

[81] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 192, p. 80. 

[82] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XLVII, p. 213. 

[83] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Donationes Belgicæ, LVIII, p. 545. 

[84] Ninove, XLI, p. 779. 

[85] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 192, p. 80. 

[86] Ninove, XLI, p. 779. 

[87] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Donationes Belgicæ, LVIII, p. 545. 

[88] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 192, p. 80. 

[89] Ninove, XLI, p. 779. 

[90] Ninove, XLI, p. 779. 

[91] De Smet (1841), Tome II, Appendices, LXXIX, p. 812. 

[92] Ninove, CXI, p. 831. 

[93] Ninove, CXIV, p. 833. 

[94] Ninove, CXXIX, p. 843. 

[95] Ninove, CLXXI, p. 874. 

[96] Ninove, CLXXXIII, p. 882. 

[97] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CLXXVII, p. 755. 

[98] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CXCVII, p. 770. 

[99] Ninove, CXI, p. 831. 

[100] Coussemaker ‘Watten’ (1860), p. 343. 

[101] Smyttère 'Cassel' (1866), Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 323. 

[102] Coussemaker ‘Watten’ (1860), p. 317. 

[103] Coussemaker ‘Watten’ (1860), p. 343. 

[104] Coussemaker ‘Watten’ (1860), p. 317. 

[105] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 562. 

[106] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars IV, XLIV, p. 542. 

[107] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 385, p. 128. 

[108] Bert M. Kamp, by email dated 3 Mar 2021. 

[109] Ninove, CLXIV, p. 869. 

[110] Ninove, CLXV, p. 869. 

[111] Ninove, CLXXII, p. 875. 

[112] Ninove, CXIV, p. 833. 

[113] Ninove, CXXIX, p. 843. 

[114] Ninove, CLXXI, p. 874. 

[115] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CLXXVII, p. 755. 

[116] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 192, p. 80. 

[117] Smyttère 'Cassel' (1866), Pièces Justificatives, VIII, p. 341. 

[118] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 6. 

[119] Diegerick (1853), Tome I, III, p. 4. 

[120] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[121] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXX, p. 201. 

[122] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[123] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[124] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[125] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[126] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[127] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[128] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584. 

[129] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[130] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXIX, p. 200. 

[131] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 474. 

[132] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 20. 

[133] Ypres Saint-Martin, Tome II, I, 25, p. 19. 

[134] Ypres Saint-Martin, Tome II, I, 29, p. 21. 

[135] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 138. 

[136] Ypres Saint-Martin, Tome II, I, 41, p. 29. 

[137] Vandenpeereboom (1880), Tome III, Origines, p. 243, footnote (6), quoting “Archives de l’administration des Hospice d’Ypres”. 

[138] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 138. 

[139] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, LVII, p. 285. 

[140] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 138. 

[141] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 172. 

[142] Ypres Saint-Martin, Tome II, I, 37, p. 26. 

[143] Ypres Saint-Martin, Tome II, I, 54, p. 38. 

[144] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 173. 

[145] Dunes, CCCCXIX-No. 531, p. 493. 

[146] Limburg Stirum (1868), Pièces justificatives, V, p. vi. 

[147] Pruvost (1875), Vol. I, p. 173. 

[148] Limburg Stirum (1868), Pièces justificatives, VIII, p. x. 

[149] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XXXII, p. 587. 

[150] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XXXII, p. 587. 

[151] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XXXII, p. 587. 

[152] Duchesne (1639) Béthune. 

[153] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[154] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 4. 

[155] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 5. 

[156] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[157] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 7. 

[158] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 8. 

[159] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Pars I, LVI, p. 65. 

[160] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 10. 

[161] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 5. 

[162] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 7. 

[163] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio 2, MGH SS VII, p. 490. 

[164] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio 7-8, MGH SS VII, p. 493. 

[165] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[166] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13. 

[167] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[168] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13. 

[169] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 16. 

[170] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13. 

[171] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13. 

[172] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[173] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[174] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[175] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[176] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[177] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[178] Duvivier (1865), LXVIII, p. 440. 

[179] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[180] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 365. 

[181] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 362. 

[182] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 364. 

[183] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 364. 

[184] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars IV, VII, p. 507. 

[185] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXVI, p. 198. 

[186] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXVI, p. 198. 

[187] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[188] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 7. 

[189] Saint-Bertin (Guérard), Pars Secunda, Liber I, XIV, p. 184. 

[190] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 8. 

[191] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Pars I, LVI, p. 65. 

[192] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 10. 

[193] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[194] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 11. 

[195] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 87, p. 34. 

[196] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars III, XXIV, p. 1142. 

[197] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Pars II, XLIII, p. 166. 

[198] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[199] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[200] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 15. 

[201] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 16. 

[202] Rymer (1745), Tome I, Pars I, p. 1. 

[203] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 252. 

[204] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 237. 

[205] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 238. 

[206] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 20. 

[207] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives III, p. 371. 

[208] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 367. 

[209] Duchesne (1639), p. 95. 

[210] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 13. 

[211] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 80. 

[212] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 15. 

[213] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 15. 

[214] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 16. 

[215] Rymer (1745), Tome I, Pars I, p. 1. 

[216] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 252. 

[217] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 12. 

[218] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 20. 

[219] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives III, p. 371. 

[220] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 24. 

[221] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 175, p. 71. 

[222] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 26. 

[223] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 26. 

[224] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 23. 

[225] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 175, p. 71. 

[226] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 248, p. 113. 

[227] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[228] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 26. 

[229] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 175, p. 71. 

[230] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[231] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 248, p. 113. 

[232] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 506. 

[233] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 51. 

[234] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 31. 

[235] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 79. 

[236] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 31. 

[237] Miraeus (1723), Tome II, Supplement, Pars II, XXIII, p. 945. 

[238] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 175, p. 71. 

[239] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXIX, p. 200. 

[240] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 241. 

[241] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 248, p. 113. 

[242] Cronica monasterii de Dunis (1839), Codex diplomaticus, XIII, p. 143. 

[243] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[244] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Faversham Abbey, Kent, X, p. 575. 

[245] Diocesis of Bruges (ed.) (1852) Chronicon abbatiæ Warnestoniensis (Bruges), Appendix, p. 33. 

[246] Duvivier (1903), Tome II, 46, p. 89. 

[247] Duvivier (1903), Tome II, 47, p. 95. 

[248] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[249] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, LXXIII, p. 360. 

[250] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 579. 

[251] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 51. 

[252] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXIX, p. 200. 

[253] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[254] Chronicon Warnestoniensis, Appendix, p. 33. 

[255] Michel (1840), p. 111. 

[256] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 51. 

[257] Foppens (1748), Tome IV, Pars II, XXIX, p. 200. 

[258] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 248, p. 113. 

[259] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[260] Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome VI (1869), p. 55. 

[261] Chronicon Warnestoniensis, Appendix, p. 33. 

[262] Duvivier (1903), Tome II, 46, p. 89. 

[263] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[264] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Faversham Abbey, Kent, X, p. 575. 

[265] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, LXXIII, p. 360. 

[266] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 52. 

[267] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[268] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[269] Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome VI (1869), p. 55. 

[270] Chronicon Warnestoniensis, Appendix, p. 33. 

[271] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[272] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Faversham Abbey, Kent, X, p. 575. 

[273] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, LXXIII, p. 360. 

[274] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Donationes Belgicæ, Liber I, LXXV, p. 397. 

[275] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[276] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, LXXXIII, p. 72. 

[277] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 75. 

[278] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCII, p. 379. 

[279] Michel (1840), p. 141. 

[280] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 94. 

[281] Michel (1840), p. 142. 

[282] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Donationes Belgicæ, Liber I, LXXV, p. 397. 

[283] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[284] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCII, p. 379. 

[285] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 94. 

[286] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[287] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCII, p. 379. 

[288] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVI, p. 381. 

[289] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 109. 

[290] Arras Chapitre 159 and 160, p. 99. 

[291] Brassart (Wavrin) (1877), Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, fo. 199 v, col. 2, 4, p. 10. 

[292] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[293] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCII, p. 379. 

[294] Michel (1840), p. 142. 

[295] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[296] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLIX, p. 743. 

[297] Delescluse & Brouwers (1900), 82, p. 262. 

[298] Klaversma ‘Eerherstel voor Mathilde de Bethune’ (1987), col. 352/3, citing Boeren, P. C. (1965) De heren van Breda en Schoten [I am grateful to Bert M. Kamp for drawing my attention to this source in a private email dated 25 Jul 2014]. 

[299] ES XXVII 29. 

[300] Iohannis de Thielrode Genealogia Comitum Flandriæ MGH SS IX, p. 335. 

[301] La Gorgue-Rosny (1877), p. 79. 

[302] Annales Blandinienses 1250 and 1262, MGH SS V, p. 31. 

[303] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 132. 

[304] Brassart (Wavrin) (1877), Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, fo. 199 v, col. 2, 4, p. 11. 

[305] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 562. 

[306] Brassart (Wavrin) (1877), p. 26. 

[307] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[308] Michel (1840), p. 190. 

[309] Charter Rolls Henry III 1226-1257, p. 228. 

[310] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[311] Péchenard (1883), pp. 201-2, and Pièces jusitificatives, XV, p. 571. 

[312] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 518. 

[313] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 619, no citation reference. 

[314] Péchenard (1883), p. 202. 

[315] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 111. 

[316] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Donationes Belgicæ, Liber I, CI, p. 417. 

[317] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CIX, p. 92. 

[318] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLIX, p. 743. 

[319] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLIX, p. 743. 

[320] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLIX, p. 743. 

[321] Michel (1840), p. 190. 

[322] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[323] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XXVIII, p. 585. 

[324] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[325] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[326] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes II, 2237, p. 251. 

[327] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 94. 

[328] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 50, p. 16. 

[329] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 122, MGH SS XXIV, p. 621. 

[330] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 53. 

[331] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 481. 

[332] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 53. 

[333] CP V 120. 

[334] Chronicon Warnestoniensis, Appendix, p. 33. 

[335] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[336] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Faversham Abbey, Kent, X, p. 575. 

[337] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, LXXIII, p. 360. 

[338] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Anno VI regis Ricardi, ad redemptionem eius, scutagium ad XXs, p. 91. 

[339] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 66. 

[340] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 66. 

[341] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Faversham Abbey, Kent, X, p. 575. 

[342] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[343] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, LXXIII, p. 360. 

[344] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 877. 

[345] Michel (1840), p. 92. 

[346] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 69 (marked 59). 

[347] La Gorgue-Rosny (1877), Documents inédits, p. 79. 

[348] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Faversham Abbey, Kent, X, p. 575. 

[349] Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome VI (1869), p. 55. 

[350] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XV, p. 574. 

[351] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, LXXIII, p. 360. 

[352] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, LXXXIII, p. 72. 

[353] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 71. 

[354] Courtrai Notre-Dame, XXI, p. 22. 

[355] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 75. 

[356] Courtrai Notre-Dame, XXI, p. 22. 

[357] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 501. 

[358] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 76. 

[359] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 121. 

[360] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 163. 

[361] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 163. 

[362] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 121. 

[363] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 163. 

[364] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 76. 

[365] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 121. 

[366] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 496. 

[367] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 496. 

[368] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 79. 

[369] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 75. 

[370] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 122, MGH SS XXIV, p. 621. 

[371] Michel (1840), p. 141. 

[372] Leuridan ‘Les seigneurs de Comines’ (1899), p. 176, quoting archives départementales du Nord, B. 15. 

[373] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[374] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[375] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 58 (marked 48). 

[376] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 56 (marked 46). 

[377] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XXVIII, p. 585. 

[378] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 106. 

[379] Tailliar (1849), 45, p. 107. 

[380] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 107. 

[381] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars IV, XXVIII, p. 585. 

[382] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 106. 

[383] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 107. 

[384] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 106. 

[385] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 107. 

[386] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 552, p. 604. 

[387] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 159. 

[388] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, CXXVII, p. 107. 

[389] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 552, p. 604. 

[390] Tailliar (1849), 45, p. 107. 

[391] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 164. 

[392] Tailliar (1849), 45, p. 107. 

[393] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 164. 

[394] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 168. 

[395] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[396] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[397] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[398] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 182. 

[399] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 183. 

[400] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 301. 

[401] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 184. 

[402] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 184. 

[403] Lalaing (1849) Maldeghem, Chartes et documents, p. 411. 

[404] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 552. 

[405] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 560. 

[406] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 162. 

[407] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 161. 

[408] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 554. 

[409] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 193. 

[410] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[411] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[412] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 193. 

[413] Lachaud (2012), p. 798. 

[414] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[415] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[416] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 110. 

[417] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[418] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 454. 

[419] Buylaert (2011), p. 265. 

[420] Buylaert (2011), p. 267. 

[421] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 221. 

[422] Grootjans-Hulpiau ‘Ghistelles’ (1857), p. 217. 

[423] Grootjans-Hulpiau ‘Ghistelles’ (1857), p. 216. 

[424] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 238. 

[425] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Bar, Preuves, p. 60. 

[426] Buylaert (2011), p. 265. 

[427] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 221. 

[428] Buylaert (2011), p. 265. 

[429] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 221. 

[430] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[431] Lachaud (2012), p. 798. 

[432] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 193. 

[433] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[434] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[435] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 285. 

[436] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 285. 

[437] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 279. 

[438] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 284. 

[439] ES XIII 108. 

[440] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 284. 

[441] Père Anselme, Tome IV, p. 229. 

[442] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 285. 

[443] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 285. 

[444] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[445] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 50. 

[446] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[447] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[448] Père Anselme, Tome IV, pp. 222-7. 

[449] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 14. 

[450] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[451] Duvivier (1898), p. 260. 

[452] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives III, p. 371. 

[453] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[454] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 28. 

[455] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 28. 

[456] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 28. 

[457] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 28. 

[458] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 28. 

[459] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 28. 

[460] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[461] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[462] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[463] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[464] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[465] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[466] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 122, MGH SS XXIV, p. 621. 

[467] Michel (1840), p. 141. 

[468] Leuridan ‘Les seigneurs de Comines’ (1899), p. 176, quoting archives départementales du Nord, B. 15. 

[469] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[470] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XCVII, p. 383. 

[471] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 58 (marked 48). 

[472] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 56 (marked 46). 

[473] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 56 (marked 46). 

[474] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 131. 

[475] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 57 (marked 47).  Note that donations by Alix’s descendants follow in this source. 

[476] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 58 (marked 48). 

[477] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, p. 138. 

[478] Leuridan (1874), Cartulaire, 1, p. 191. 

[479] Vander Haer (1611), p. 183-215. 

[480] Leuridan (1874), Cartulaire, 2, p. 192. 

[481] Miraeus (Le Mire) (1723), Tome I, XLIV, p. 53. 

[482] Gand Saint-Bavon (1840), 14, p. 21. 

[483] De Smet (1837), Tome I, Chronicon Comitum Flandrensium, p. 44. 

[484] Leuridan (1874), Cartulaire, 6, p. 198. 

[485] Brassart (Douai) (1877) Preuves, XIX, p. 31. 

[486] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, XXIX, p. 362. 

[487] Leuridan (1874), Cartulaire, 8, p. 198. 

[488] Foppens (1734), Tome III, LXXXIX, p. 665. 

[489] Brassart (Douai) (1877) Preuves, XXII, p. 35. 

[490] Achéry, L. d’ (1723) Spicilegium sive collectio veterum aliquot scriptorum (Paris), Tome III, p. 432. 

[491] Hautcœur (1895), p. 311. 

[492] Leuridan (1874), p. 119, quoting Chronicon Phanopino (on precise citation). 

[493] Hautcœur (1895), p. 307. 

[494] Leuridan (1874), Cartulaire, 8, p. 198. 

[495] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 16. 

[496] Saint-Bertin (Guérard), XI, p. 222. 

[497] Foppens (1734), Tome III, LXXXIX, p. 665. 

[498] Rymer (1745), Tome I, Pars I, p. 1. 

[499] Saint-Bertin (Guérard), XI, p. 222. 

[500] Coussemaker ‘Bourbourg’ (1859), III, p. 286. 

[501] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 56. 

[502] Meyer (1561), Annalium Flandriæ, Lib. IV, p. 36 (second page). 

[503] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives III, p. 371. 

[504] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, LXXII, p. 684. 

[505] Coussemaker ‘Bourbourg’ (1859), XXX, p. 298. 

[506] Hautcœur (1895), p. 314. 

[507] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives III, p. 371. 

[508] Coussemaker ‘Bourbourg’ (1859), XXX, p. 298. 

[509] Saint-Bertin Grand Cartulaire (Haigneré), Tome I, 175, p. 71. 

[510] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 91. 

[511] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 216. 

[512] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 71. 

[513] Saint-Trond, Tome I, LIII, p. 72. 

[514] Hautcœur (1895), p. 307. 

[515] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 72, quoting Cartulaire d’Hasnon, fo. 75v, and Collection Moreau, t. 64, fo. 104. 

[516] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, XC, p. 700. 

[517] Vander Haer (1611), p. 192. 

[518] Vander Haer (1611), p. 192. 

[519] Gand Saint-Pierre, 281, p. 161. 

[520] Gand Saint-Pierre, 285, p. 163. 

[521] Vander Haer (1611), pp. 192-3. 

[522] Arras Chapitre 25, p. 17. 

[523] Gand Saint-Pierre, 285, p. 163. 

[524] Vander Haer (1611), pp. 192-3. 

[525] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 20. 

[526] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 34. 

[527] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 48, MGH SS XXIV, p. 585. 

[528] Duchesne (1631), Guines, pp. 447-8. 

[529] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 73. 

[530] Vander Haer (1611), pp. 192-3. 

[531] Vander Haer (1611), pp. 192-3. 

[532] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 61, footnote (2). 

[533] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 61, footnote (2). 

[534] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 63. 

[535] Hautcœur (1895), p. 315. 

[536] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 61, footnote (2). 

[537] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 65, footnote (2). 

[538] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 61, footnote (2). 

[539] Leuridan ‘La châtellenie de Lille’ (1901), p. 61, footnote (2). 

[540] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 221. 

[541] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 226. 

[542] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 231. 

[543] Duvivier (1898), Tome I, p. 234. 

[544] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[545] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 70. 

[546] Duvivier (1898