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PORCieN, RETHEL, grandpre

 

v4.5 Updated 10 July 2019

 

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Chapter 1.                PORCIEN. 2

A.         COMTES de PORCIEN.. 2

B.         SEIGNEURS de CHÂTEAU-PORCIEN (GRANDPRE) 5

C.        COMTES de PORCIEN (CHÂTILLON) 9

D.        COMTES de PORCIEN (CROY) 23

Chapter 2.                NOBILITY in PORCIEN. 26

A.         SEIGNEURS de LOR.. 26

Chapter 3.                RETHEL. 28

A.         COMTES d'OMONT, COMTES de RETHEL. 29

B.         COMTES de RETHEL, CHÂTELAINS de VITRY.. 39

Chapter 4.                NOBILITY in RETHEL. 57

A.         SEIGNEURS du BOIS.. 57

B.         SEIGNEURS de HIERGES, CHÂTELAINS de BOUILLON.. 58

C.        SEIGNEURS de NEUFCHÂTEL [en Ardenne] 67

D.        SEIGNEURS de RESSON.. 68

E.         SEIGNEURS de ROZOY.. 70

F.         SEIGNEURS de SEDAN.. 80

G.        DUCS de BOUILLON.. 82

Chapter 5.                GRANDPRE. 87

A.         COMTES de GRANDPRE.. 87

B.         SEIGNEURS de HANS.. 106

 

 

 

This document sets out the nobility in the north-east of the county of Champagne, in the counties of Porcien, Rethel and Grandpré in the present-day French département of Ardennes. 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 1.    PORCIEN

 

 

 

A.      COMTES de PORCIEN

 

 

The county of Porcien was located north of the county of Rethel in the present-day French département of Ardennes.  It evolved in the pagus Portianus, also called Portensis and Portuensis, within the diocese of Reims, co-terminous with the ecclesiastical doyennés of Saint-Germainmont, Châtelet, Justine, Launoy and Rumigny[1].  The 835 charter, under which Emperor Louis I “le Pieux” divided his territories between his sons, named “...Portiano...” as part of “ista media Francia” (presumably allocated to his son Charles, although the actual allocation is missing from the surviving document)[2].  Longnon established that the original county covered “les anciens doyennés de Saint-Germainmont, le Châtelet, Justine, Launay et Rumigny[3].  References to the county of Porcien have been found in primary sources from the mid-10th to the late 11th centuries, when the county passed by marriage to the comtes de Grandpré.  It was later acquired by a branch of the seigneurs de Châtillon-sur-Marne.  The references to Comte Bernard, shown below, suggest that in the early 10th century the counties of Porcien and Rethel were closely linked. 

 

 

1.         HUCBALD (-after 870).  Comte de Porcien.  The Chronicon Maceriense records in 870 that "Hucbaldus comes Porcensis" attacked "Garlaschum", the preceding passage recording that "Garlaschus miles" had usurped "comitatum Castriensem" by force in 860[4]m ---.  The name of Hucbald’s wife is not known.  Hucbald & his wife had one child: 

a)         FREDERIC .  The Chronicon Maceriense records in 900 that "Herlebaldus" [Erlebold Comte de Castres] defeated "Fredericum Hucbaldi filium" at "Warcum"[5]

 

2.         MANASSES (-after 925).  Comte de Porcien.  The Chronicon Maceriense records in 925 that "Manasses Porcensis, Marcus Dulcomensis et Guarinus Castriencis" defeated "cum Reginaldo Rociensi Normannos apud Calvum montem"[6]

 

3.         BERNARD [Balthasar] (-after 945).  The primary source which confirms Bernard’s parentage has not been identified.  However, he named his son Manassès, which suggests that he may have been the son of Manassès Comte de Porcien who is named above.  Comte [de Porcien].  Flodoard's Annales record in 933 that "Richarius episcopus Tungrensis" captured "castellum Bernardi comitis" which the latter had constructed "apud Harceias [Arches] in pago Porcinse"[7]Comte de Rethel.  Flodoard's Annales record that in 945 that "rex Ludowicus" besieged "Remorem…urbem" with "militum Arnulfi sed et Artoldo episcopo…comitibus…Bernardo ac Theoderico nepote ipsius"[8]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "rex Ludovicus et Artholdus et comes de Retest Bernardus et Theodericus nepos eius” besieged "civitatem Remensem" in 946[9].  The Chronicon Maceriense (a dubious source) records in 941 that "Balthazar Registensis" made peace with Warin and requested the hand in marriage of "Guarino Ordelam" for "Manasse filio"[10]

-        COMTES de RETHEL

 

4.         ETIENNE (-after [956])Comte de Porcien.  Etienne and his wife Frédévide founded the priory of Thin le Moutier at Porcien[11].  Etienne built the castle of Mirwart (in Ivois), and donated property to the abbey of Chauvency (near Montmédy) after he became paralysed[12].  It is suggested that this means that he invaded the county of Ivois, displaced Comte Raoul [II] and installed himself as Comte d'Ivois.  The Miracula Sancti Huberti record that "comes Stephanus" donated part of Chauvency ("Calvenciaco") to Saint-Hubert, dated to [955][13]m FREDEVIDE, daughter of ---.  Etienne and his wife Frédévide founded the priory of Thin le Moutier at Porcien[14]

 

5.         ROGER de Porcien (-[1053/56])Comte de Porcien.  A charter dated 1053 records land “in villa sancti Remigiii”, in the possession of "cuiusdam vicedomini Remensis…Manasses Calvus, nepos Vidonis archipresulis", and his subsequent donation to the church, subscribed by “Manassæ comitis, Rogeri comitis, Rainoldi Suessionici comitis, Vidonis militis[, Iofridi militis, Milonis militis, Aleranni militis][15]m --- [de Reims], sister of MANASSES Vidame de Reims, daughter of ---.  Du Chesne states that her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter dated 1056 under which her son Manassès...comte de Porcean” is named “nepueu de Manasses le Chauve”, but he does not cite the source[16]Roger & his wife had one child: 

a)         MANASSES de Porcien (-after 1056).  Du Chesne states that her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter dated 1056 under which her son Manassès...comte de Porcean” is named “nepueu de Manasses le Chauve”, but he does not cite the source[17]Comte de Porcien

 

6.         RENAUDm AELIS, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.   Barthélemy suggests that “Alix femme de Renaud comte de Porcien épousa en seconde noces Hesselin II comte de Grandpré[18], but this suggestion does not adequately explain the subsequent inheritance of Porcien by the Grandpré family (see below).  Renaud & his wife had two children: 

a)         ROGER de Porcien (-after 1087).  Comte de Porcien.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Rogerum comitem Porcensem" as "Hescelinus comes de Grandiprato fratrem"[19], although as noted below use of the expression "fratrem" to mean brother-in-law provides the best explanation for the later inheritance of Porcien by the Grandpré family.  "Rogerus comes Porcensis territorii" founded the priory of Château-Porcien and donated it to the abbey of Saint-Hubert, Ardenne, for the souls of "Ermengardis uxoris mee et filie mee Sibilie", by charter dated 1087[20].  "Rogerus comes Porcensis territorii" donated "villam mei juris...Rumoldi curtem et Guretum" to Saint-Hubert, for the souls of “mee et Ermengardis uxoris mee et filie mei Sibilie”, by charter dated 1087[21]Barthélemy records that, after the death of Roger Comte de Porcien, Henri [I] Comte de Grandpré inherited part of his assets “qui forma le fief de Château-Porcien[22]m ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-after 1087).  "Rogerus comes Porcensis territorii" founded the priory of Château-Porcien and donated it to the abbey of Saint-Hubert, Ardenne, for the souls of "Ermengardis uxoris mee et filie mee Sibilie", by charter dated 1087[23].  "Rogerus comes Porcensis territorii" donated "villam mei juris...Rumoldi curtem et Guretum" to Saint-Hubert, for the souls of “mee et Ermengardis uxoris mee et filie mei Sibilie”, by charter dated 1087[24] Comte Roger & his wife had one child: 

i)          SIBYLLE .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Sibilia" as daughter of "Rogerum comitem Porcensem", recording in a later passage her first marriage[25]"Rogerus comes Porcensis territorii" founded the priory of Château-Porcien and donated it to the abbey of Saint-Hubert, Ardenne, for the souls of "Ermengardis uxoris mee et filie mee Sibilie", by charter dated 1087[26].  "Rogerus comes Porcensis territorii" donated "villam mei juris...Rumoldi curtem et Guretum" to Saint-Hubert, for the souls of “mee et Ermengardis uxoris mee et filie mei Sibilie”, by charter dated 1087[27]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Sibiliam filiam comitis Rogerii Porcensis" as wife of "comes Godefridus de Namuco"[28]The Chronicon Huberti names "filiam suo [=Rogerus Porcensium comes] Sibillam" as wife of "Godefrido filio Alberti comitis Namucensis"[29].  Guibert de Nogent records that "Ingelrannus" abducted "filia…Rogeri comitis Porcensis", wife of "Namurensi…comiti Godefrido"[30]Barthélemy suggests that, as a result of Sibylle’s marital adventures, “le comté de Porcien fut démembré”, “Château-Porcien” passing to Sibylle’s husband[31]m ([1087], divorced [1104]) as his first wife, GODEFROI de Namur, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-19 Aug 1139).  Comte de Château-Porcien 1097, by right of his wife.  He succeeded his father in 1102 as GODEFROI Comte de NamurMistress of: ENGUERRAND [I] de Boves Comte d’Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy, son of DREUX de Boves & his wife --- (-[1117]). 

b)         daughter .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Rogerum comitem Porcensem" as "Hescelinus comes de Grandiprato fratrem"[32], although this relationship cannot as yet be explained unless "fratrem" can be translated as brother-in-law.  The family relationship is also indicated by Barthélemy recording that, after the death of Roger Comte de Porcien, [her son] Henri [I] Comte de Grandpré inherited part of his assets “qui forma le fief de Château-Porcien[33].  In another passage, Barthélemy suggests that “Alix femme de Renaud comte de Porcien épousa en seconde noces Hesselin II comte de Grandpré[34], but this suggestion does not adequately explain the subsequent inheritance of Porcien by the Grandpré family.  m HENRI [Hezelin] de Grandpré, son of HERMANN Comte & his wife Judith --- (-1097 or after). 

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de CHÂTEAU-PORCIEN (GRANDPRE)

 

 

The Comtes de Grandpré acquired Porcien after the death of Roger Comte de Porcien, whose sister had probably married Henri de Grandpré as shown above.  Porcien was granted to Geoffroy de Grandpré, younger son of Henri [I] Comte de Grandpré, de Porcien et de Verdun, in the mid-12th century.  Geoffroy did not bear the comital title.  His descendants were studied in the late 19th century by Barthélemy, who does not cite primary sources to corroborate all his statements and whose conclusions appear difficult to reconcile with other sources[35]

 

 

GEOFFROY de Grandpré, son of HENRI [I] Comte de Grandpré, de Porcien et de Verdun & his wife Ermentrude de Joux [Grandson] (-after 1179).  “Geoffroy comte de Château-Porcien” renounced claims to property donated by his father to Signy by charter dated 1170[36]"Henricus comes Grandiprati, Gaufridus frater eius, Willelmus de S. Maura" subscribed a charter dated 1179 under which "Henricus comes Palatinus Trecensis" donated property to the church of St Marie, Josaphat[37]Seigneur de Château-Porcien et de Balham. 

m [as her second husband,] ALIX de Bazoches, daughter of GERVAIS de Bazoches & his wife Hawise de Rumigny.  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  Geoffroi de Balhan” notified an agreement between “son frère Henri” and Vaucler abbey concerning “[le] quart de Vallis villa”, with the consent of “Alix mère de Geoffroi et des frères de celui-ci”, by charter dated 1187[38].  Her possible earlier marriage is suggested by the following document: Barthélemy cites a charter dated 1208 under which Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien mentions donations by “pater meus...Gaufridus junior, assensu fratrum suorum, et assensu fratris sui Nicholai de Seon[39]

Geoffroy [I] & his wife had [two or more] children: 

1.         GEOFFROY [II] de Château-Porcien (-[1196/1206])Seigneur de Château-Porcien et de Balham.  Geoffroi de Balhan” notified an agreement between “son frère Henri” and Vaucler abbey concerning “[le] quart de Vallis villa”, with the consent of “Alix mère de Geoffroi et des frères de celui-ci”, by charter dated 1187[40].  Barthélemy attributes this charter to Geoffroy [I], whose mother is named Ermentrude elsewhere.  It seems more likely that he was Geoffroy [II], although if that is correct “son frère Henri” is difficult to explain unless the original document (which has not been seen) did not specify a family relationship between Geoffroy and Henri.  That explanation is consistent with the consent of “des frères de celui-ci”, who would not have included Henri.  Geoffroy renounced rights relating to Herpy, with the consent of “Raoul son fils aîné et ses autres fils plus jeunes Geoffroi et Gui”, by charter dated 1196[41].  He presumably died before 1206, the date of his wife’s charter quoted below.  m ELISABETH de Rozoy, daughter of RENAUD Seigneur de Rozoy & his wife Juliane de Rumigny (-after 1220).  “Elisabeth de Rosoy dame de Château-Porcien...file de Renaud de Rosoy, fils d’Enguerrand des Boves” compensated Signy “considérant que son mariage avait été la cause de ces torts” and wishing that “elle et sa fille participassent aux prières des moines” by charter dated 1206[42].  “Elisabeth de Rosoi dame de Château-Porcien” confirmed donations made to Signy by her ancestors and donated “le droit de silvagio dans les bois de Signy” by charter dated 1207[43].  “Elisabeth de Rosoi dame de Château-Porcien” confirmed donations made to Signy by “Clerembaud et Elisabeth ses grand’père et mère” by charter dated Apr 1207[44].  “Elisabeth de Rosoy dame de Château-Porcien” donated “une somme...sur sa maison de Grand-champ” to Signy by charter dated 1220[45].  Geoffroy [II] & his wife had six children: 

a)         RAOUL de Château-Porcien (-[1218]).  Geoffroy renounced rights relating to Herpy, with the consent of “Raoul son fils aîné et ses autres fils plus jeunes Geoffroi et Gui”, by charter dated 1196[46]Seigneur de Château-PorcienRaoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien donated property at Chappes to Signy, naming “ses frères Geoffroi, Henri, Guichard chanoine et Gui”, by charter dated 1206[47]Barthélemy cites a charter dated 1208 under which Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien mentions donations by “pater meus...Gaufridus junior, assensu fratrum suorum, et assensu fratris sui Nicholai de Seon[48]Raoul Sr de Château-Porcien et Agnès sa femme” confirmed donations made to Signy by “Henri comte de Grandpré et Sr. de Château-Porcien son bisayeul...[et] par son ayeul paternel Geoffroy” by charter dated May 1211[49].  The Feoda Campanie dated [1222/43] includes “...Radulphus dominus Castri Portuensis…” in Feoda Varia[50]m as her first husband, AGNES de Bazoches, daughter of NICOLAS de Bazoches & his wife Agnes de Chérisy (-after [1249/52]).  Barthélemy says that she was “Agnès de Bazoches, fille de Nicolas et d’Agnès de Cérisy” but cites no primary source on which this parentage is based[51].  “Raoul Sr de Château-Porcien et Agnès sa femme” confirmed donations made to Signy by “Henri comte de Grandpré et Sr. de Château-Porcien son bisayeul...[et] par son ayeul paternel Geoffroy” by charter dated May 1211[52].  Agnes founded an anniversary for her husband “au jour de Saint-Augustin” by charter dated 1218[53].  She married secondly (1222) Erard d’Aulnay.  Her second marriage is confirmed by the following document: "Erard d’Aunay épousant Agnès dame de Château-Porcien" promised to return Château-Porcien to the children of “Raoul précédent mari d’Agnès” by charter dated 1222[54].  The Feoda Campanie dated [after 1234] includes “...domina Agnes relicta Herardi de Aunaio…et quando duo filii eius fuerunt---…[55].  The Rôles de Fiefs of Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne, dated [1249/52], includes “...domina Agnes relicta Herardi de Aunaio…et quando duo filii eius fuerunt---…[56].  Raoul & his wife had [five] children: 

i)          GEOFFROY [III] de Château-Porcien (-after Jul 1248)Seigneur de Château-Porcien: Geoffroy with “sa femme Félie et Henri de Châtel son frère chevalier” are named in charters for Signy dated Apr 1246 and 1247[57].  “Geoffroy de Château-Porcien et sa femme” renounced rights in favour of Signy by charter dated 1247[58].  Geoffroy de Château-Porcien renounced claims against Signy by charter dated Jul 1248[59].  [m firstly MARGUERITE, daughter of ---.  Thierry d’Orjo notes this first marriage, Marguerite being the mother of Geoffory’s two children named below[60].]  m [secondly] (before Apr 1246) as her first husband, FELICITE de Trainel, daughter of [GARNIER [IV] de Trainel Seigneur de Marigny-le-Châtel & his wife Hélissende de Rethel] (-18 Oct 1283).  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  From a chronological point of view, she could have been the daughter of Gauthier [IV] Seigneur de Marigny et de Traînel.  The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not been identified.  Geoffroy with “sa femme Félie et Henri de Châtel son frère chevalier” are named in charters for Signy dated Apr 1246 and 1247[61].  She married secondly (1254) as his second wife, Godefroi de Perwez"Felicitas domina de Hoboke et Henricus natus eius" donated property to Ouderghem, for the soul of "G. domini de Perweys et Grimbergis tunc mariti nostri", by charter dated 31 Oct 1270[62]"Aleydis dicta de Perweys domina Hoboke…cum mater mea bonæ memoriæ domina Felicitas de Triangulo dicta domina de Perweys" donated property "in pagis de Eeckeren Leod. et Hoboke Camerac." to Oudeghem by charter dated 1290[63].  Geoffroy [III] & his first wife had two children: 

(a)       JEAN de Château-Porcien (-bur Signy).  Thierry d’Orjo notes his parentage and his death before his father[64]

(b)       AUFELIZE de Château-PorcienThierry d’Orjo notes her parentage and marriage, indicating the location of her husband’s property in the département Ardennes, arrondissement Rethel which was held in 1258 by Jean de Termes (“Jehans de Termes sires de Saint Leu en Champaigne...” and others notified an exchange of property by charter dated Nov 1258[65])[66]m (Aug 1249) HENRI Seigneur de Saint-Loup-Champagne, son of ---. 

ii)         HENRI de Château-Porcien [de Châtel] (-after 1247).  Geoffroy with “sa femme Félie et Henri de Châtel son frère chevalier” are named in charters for Signy dated Apr 1246 and 1247[67]

iii)        GUY [III] de Château-Porcien (-killed in battle Mansurah 5/6 Apr 1250)Bishop of Soissons 1245.  The necrology of Soissons cathedral records the death “Non Apr apud Marsoriam civitatem Ægypti cum S Ludovico rege captus a Saracensis…capite truncatus” of “D. Guido de Castro-Portuensi episcopus Suessionensis[68].  The necrology of Reims records the death “VIII Id Apr” of “Guido Suessionensis episcopus” and the donation for his soul made by “Guichardus de Castro frater eius presbyter et canonicus noster[69]

iv)       GUICHARD de Château-Porcien .  Canon at Reims.  The necrology of Reims records the death “VIII Id Apr” of “Guido Suessionensis episcopus” and the donation for his soul made by “Guichardus de Castro frater eius presbyter et canonicus noster[70]

v)        [ISABELLE (-after 1257).  Barthélemy records her parentage and first marriage with “Jacques de Montchâlons” without citing any primary source on which this information is based[71].  “Gilles de Rosoy Sr de Château-Porcien et Isabelle sa femme” renounced claims in favour of Signy by charter dated May 1257[72]m GILLES de Rozoy, son of ---.  Seigneur de Château-Porcien.] 

b)         GEOFFROY de Château-Porcien .  Geoffroy renounced rights relating to Herpy, with the consent of “Raoul son fils aîné et ses autres fils plus jeunes Geoffroi et Gui”, by charter dated 1196[73].  Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien donated property at Chappes to Signy, naming “ses frères Geoffroi, Henri, Guichard chanoine et Gui”, by charter dated 1206[74].  “Raoul Sr de Château-Porcien et Agnès sa femme” declared that “Geoffroy son frère” had renounced claims against Signy by charter dated May 1211[75]

c)         GUY de Château-Porcien .  Geoffroy renounced rights relating to Herpy, with the consent of “Raoul son fils aîné et ses autres fils plus jeunes Geoffroi et Gui”, by charter dated 1196[76].  Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien donated property at Chappes to Signy, naming “ses frères Geoffroi, Henri, Guichard chanoine et Gui”, by charter dated 1206[77]

d)         HENRI de Château-Porcien .  Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien donated property at Chappes to Signy, naming “ses frères Geoffroi, Henri, Guichard chanoine et Gui”, by charter dated 1206[78]

e)         GUICHARD de Château-Porcien (-after 1217).  Canon at Reims: Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien donated property at Chappes to Signy, naming “ses frères Geoffroi, Henri, Guichard chanoine et Gui”, by charter dated 1206[79].  “Raoul Sr de Château-Porcien” declared that “Guiscard son frère chanoine de Reims” had received compensation from Signy for various claims by charter dated 1217[80]

f)          daughter (-after 1206).  “Elisabeth de Rosoy dame de Château-Porcien...file de Renaud de Rosoy, fils d’Enguerrand des Boves” compensated Signy “considérant que son mariage avait été la cause de ces torts” and wishing that “elle et sa fille participassent aux prières des moines” by charter dated 1206[81]

2.         [two or more] sons .  Their existence is confirmed by the following document, assuming as suggested above that it applies to Geoffroy [II] Seigneur de Château-Porcien: Geoffroi de Balhan” notified an agreement between “son frère Henri” and Vaucler abbey concerning “[le] quart de Vallis villa”, with the consent of “Alix mère de Geoffroi et des frères de celui-ci”, by charter dated 1187[82].  Barthélemy cites a charter dated 1208 under which Raoul Seigneur de Château-Porcien mentions donations by “pater meus...Gaufridus junior, assensu fratrum suorum, et assensu fratris sui Nicholai de Seon[83]

 

 

 

C.      COMTES de PORCIEN (CHÂTILLON)

 

 

Gaucher [V] de Châtillon acquired Porcien in the early 14th century, although the circumstances of this acquisition have not been ascertained. 

 

 

GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon, son of GAUCHER [IV] de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon & his wife Isabelle de Villehardouin (-1329).  "Gauthier de Chasteillon chevalier sires de Crecy et Guiot frere d’iceluy Gauthier" exchanged “Boucin et Sainz”, granted to them by “nostre...Oncles jehan de Chasteillon jadis Conte de Blois et Sire d’Avesnes”, for “Pont-Arci” with “Pierre fuiz du Roy de France Conte d’Alençon et de Blois et Sires d’Avesnes” by charter dated 1280[84].  “Gaucherius de Castellione dominus de Creciaco et Guido de Castellione frater dicti domini Gaucheri et Isabellis uxor domini de Creciaco memorati“ sold property “apud Mucecort“ to Saint-Denis abbey by charter dated Oct 1281[85].  "Gauchiers de Chastillon chevalier sires de Crecy conestables de Champaigne et Ysabeau de Druees femme dudit chevalier" notified that “Guy de Chastillon chevalier frere de nous Gaucher...en sa derniere volenté” founded a chapel at Monstier Notre Dame du Pont, by charter dated Mar 1286[86].  Seigneur de Châtillon. “Gauchiers sires de Chastillon et connestable de Champaigne“ donated property to Marmoutier in execution of the testament of “nostre...compagne Ysabeau de Druees iadis nostre femme que Dieu absoille” by charter dated Mar 1300 (O.S.)[87].   Comte de Porcien [1303].  The Chronicle of Guillaume de Nangis records that, after the death in 1291 of "Johanna comitissa Blesis", "eius consanguinei comes sancti Pauli...Hugo et fratres ipsius, atque Galtherius Castellionis dominus" divided her inheritance, specifying that "Hugo" left "comitatum sancti Pauli" to "Guidoni fratri suo"[88].  Connétable de France 1302. 

m firstly ([1276/Oct 1281]) ISABELLE de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT de Dreux Seigneur de Bû & his second wife Isabelle de Villebéon ([1264/65]-29 Apr 1300).  “Gaucherius de Castellione dominus de Creciaco et Guido de Castellione frater dicti domini Gaucheri et Isabellis uxor domini de Creciaco memorati“ sold property “apud Mucecort“ to Saint-Denis abbey by charter dated Oct 1281[89].  Père Anselme states that “[le] cartulaire de l’église de S. Magloire“ includes “des lettres” dated Sep 1282 under which “Robert de Dreux écuyer, fils de feu Robert jadis chevalier, seigneur de Beu et d’Isabeau jadis sa femme” declared before Simon Bishop of Chartres that he was 17 years old and that he “et sa sœur Isabeau”, as orphans after the deaths of their father and mother, were brought up with his own children by Robert [IV] Comte de Dreux et de Montfort who arranged Isabelle’s marriage to “Gaucher de Châtillon[90].  "Gauchiers de Chastillon chevalier sires de Crecy conestables de Champaigne et Ysabeau de Druees femme dudit chevalier" notified that “Guy de Chastillon chevalier frere de nous Gaucher...en sa derniere volenté” founded a chapel at Monstier Notre Dame du Pont, by charter dated Mar 1286[91].  The necrology of Meaux Saint-Faron records the death 29 Apr of “domina Ysabellis de Drocis uxor domini Galcheri de Chastellione[92].  “Gauchiers sires de Chastillon et connestable de Champaigne“ donated property to Marmoutier in execution of the testament of “nostre...compagne Ysabeau de Druees iadis nostre femme que Dieu absoille” by charter dated Mar 1300 (O.S.)[93]

m secondly ([1301/Mar 1302]) as her second husband, HELISENDE de Vergy, widow of HENRI [II] Comte de Vaudémont, daughter of JEAN [I] de Vergy Seigneur de Mirebeau et de Fouvent & his wife Marguerite de Noyers (-before Aug 1312).  “Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porciens et connestables de France” and “Hellisent de Vergy contesse de Vaudemont et de Porciens et femme deudit seigneur” confirmed that “Iehans de Vergi sires de Fonuans et seneschaux de Bourgoingne nostre…peres” had given them “le chastel de Mory la ville…” on their marriage by charter dated Mar 1302[94].  "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont[95]

m thirdly (contract Mar 1313) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Rumigny Dame de Florennes, de Boves, de Rumigny, de Martigny et d'Aubenton, widow of THIBAUT II Duke of Lorraine, daughter of HUGUES Seigneur de Rumigny & his second wife Philippa --- (Jun 1263-after 7 Dec 1325[96], bur Abbaye de Bonnefontaine).  A parliamentary decision dated 1281 recognised that "de medietate villa d’Aubenton" owed homage to “Ioannes primogenitus comitis Suessionensis...et Margaretæ uxoris sua filia quondam domini de Rumigneyo” who shared the succession of her father “cum sorore sua Ysabella uxore Theobaldi primogeniti ducis Lotharingiæ[97].  The marriage contract between "Gauchiers de Chastillon Cuens de Porciens et connestable de France" and “madame Ysabel dame de Rumigny et de Boue et duchesse de Lorraine” is dated Mar 1312 (O.S.?)[98].  Letters dated 1315 record that "Gauchiers de Chastillon cuens de Porciens et connestable de France" sold “la terre de Ysse” to Reims Saint-Denis with the consent of “Ysabel duchesse de Lorraine sa femme[99]

Gaucher [V] & his first wife had six children: 

1.         GAUCHER [VI] de Châtillon (-25 Aug 1325, bur Pont-aux-Dames).  Letters dated Apr 1304 record that "Gauchiers de Chasteillon chevalier sire dou Tour et filz de Gauchiers de Chastillon cuens de Porciens et connestable de France" confirmed a donation to Hotel-Dieu de Notre Dame de Reims[100].  "Messire Gaucher de Chastillon Comte de Porcean connestable de France” divided his territories between his sons by charter dated 3 May 1324, granting “toute la Comté de Porcean, le chastel de Chastillon, les terres de Troissy et de Nelle” to “Monsieur Gaucher son fils aisné[101].  Duchesne records his death and epitaph at l’Abbaye du Pont-aux-Dames erected by his sister Isabelle[102]m (1305) MARGUERITE de Dampierre, daughter of JEAN Seigneur de Dampierre & his wife Isabelle de Brienne (-1316, bur Abbaye de Theuley).  Dame de Dampierre.  The testament of "Marguerite dame dou Tour et de Dampierre famme de...Gaucher de Chastillon seigneur dou Tour et de Dampierre", dated late Dec 1309, bequeathed property to “Roinette qui nourissoit Gauchier et Jean ses fils[103].  Gaucher [VI] & his wife had four children: 

a)         GAUCHER [VII] de Châtillon (-1342).  The testament of "Marguerite dame dou Tour et de Dampierre famme de...Gaucher de Chastillon seigneur dou Tour et de Dampierre", dated late Dec 1309, bequeathed property to “Roinette qui nourissoit Gauchier et Jean ses fils[104].  "Gaucherus de Castellione miles dominus du Tour" claimed against “Iacobum Luillier” relating to property following the death of “Gaucheri de Castellione patris dicti Gaucherii” by charter dated 26 Apr 1326[105]Comte de Porcien.  "Galcherum de Castellioni comitem Porciani, Ioannem de Castellione eius fratrem et Petrum Flote militem, hæredes defuncti Galcheri de Castellione domini quondam du Tour patris dictorum comitis et Ioannis" donated property to “abbatis...sancti Pharonis Meldensis” by charter dated 18 Jul 1332[106].  Duchesne records his death in 1342[107]m (contract 1323) JEANNE de Conflans, daughter of HUGUES [IV] de Conflans Seigneur de Précy & his wife Brande de Blanquefort.  The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “messire Hue...sire de Pressy et mareschaux de Champagne” and his first wife “la fille le seigneur de Blancquefort en Gascogne” had several children, of whom only one daughter lived, and married “monseigneur Gaucher de Chastillon comte de Porcien[108].  "Hugues de Conflans chevalier" sold the seigneuries and castles of “Alemannis et Pelarampio, Saissis, quarta parte…Salvetate et alii iuribus in castro de Marmanda”, which had belonged to “Jeanne fille dudit Hugues et de Brande sa femme, fille de défunt Arnault de Blanquafort”, to “Bertrand de Goto vicomte de Lomaigne et d’Auvillars” by charters dated Jun, Jul and Oct 1313[109].  Two decisions of the parliament dated 1321 and 1323 record that "Guido Turpin miles curator...Ioannæ de Confluentio...filiæ quondam Hugonis de Confluentio quondam Campaniæ marescallis" started proceedings against “Bertrandum de Guto vicecomitem Leomaniæ” her mother’s succession[110].  A charter dated Jun 1329 records homage from "dominum de Conflantio modernum et filiam Marescalli Campanie uxorem Galcheri de Castellione domicelli" for “feodis de Sommevele et castri de Conflantio[111].  Gaucher [VII] & his wife had children: 

i)          JEAN [I] de Châtillon (-before 15 Jul 1389)Comte de Porcien.  Seigneur du Tour et de Nevele.  "Iean de Chastillon cuens de Porcian chevalier et Ieanne d’Aspremont comtesse de Porcien sa femme seigneurs heritiers de Chaumont en Porcien” and the convent of Saint-Hubert en Ardenne settled disputes by charter dated Oct 1346[112].  "Ioannes de Castellione miles comes Porciani et Iacoba de Domnomartino uxor eius” revived the dispute between “Ioannem dominum de Castellione militem et Ioannam de Sacrocæsare comitissam de Domnimartino eius uxorem...gardam...Karoli comitis Domnimartino et...dictæ Jacobæ” and “Matheum de Tria militem, Ioannem eius fratrem, Yolendim et Lienoram de Tria eorum sorores” by charter dated 7 Mar 1350 (O.S.?)[113]m firstly JEANNE d’Aspremont, daughter of THOMAS d’Aspremont Seigneur de Chaumont & his wife Jeanne de Quiévrain (-after Oct 1346).  "Iean de Chastillon cuens de Porcian chevalier et Ieanne d’Aspremont comtesse de Porcien sa femme seigneurs heritiers de Chaumont en Porcien” and the convent of Saint-Hubert en Ardenne settled disputes by charter dated Oct 1346[114]m secondly (before 7 Mar 1351) JACQUELINE de Dammartin Dame de Beaumont-le-Bois, daughter of JEAN [III] de Trie Comte de Dammartin & his wife Jeanne de Sancerre (-before 15 Jul 1389).  "Ioannes de Castellione miles comes Porciani et Iacoba de Domnomartino uxor eius” revived the dispute between “Ioannem dominum de Castellione militem et Ioannam de Sacrocæsare comitissam de Domnimartino eius uxorem...gardam...Karoli comitis Domnimartino et...dictæ Jacobæ” and “Matheum de Tria militem, Ioannem eius fratrem, Yolendim et Lienoram de Tria eorum sorores” by charter dated 7 Mar 1350 (O.S.?)[115].  Jean [I] & his [first/second] wife had [one child]: 

(1)       [JEANNE de Châtillon (-1371, bur Orcamp).  Duchesne names Jeanne as daughter of Gaucher [VII] de Châtillon[116].  Père Anselme records that “Jeanne de Chastillon”, daughter of Gauthier [VII] de Châtillon Comte de Porcien, married as his first wife “Jean de Béthune seigneur de Vendeuil vicomte de Meaux”, without citing the source on which he bases this information[117].  The following document confirms that her father was an unnamed Comte de Porcien: a parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints”, that he inherited his mother’s possessions after she died and that in 1368 his father gave him “Vendueil à son mariage avec la fille du Comte de Porcien[118].  Dame de Chaumont en PorcienConsidering the date of the marriage of Gaucher [VII], as well as the date of her own marriage, it is more likely that Jeanne was the daughter of Jean [I] de Châtillon.  If that is correct, she could presumably have been born either to Jean’s first or second wife.  m (1368) as his first wife, ROBERT de Béthune Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Vendeuil, son of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Vendeuil & his first wife Jeanne de Coucy (-Feb 1408).] 

Jean [I] & his second wife had two children:

(2)       JEAN [II] de ChâtillonComte de Porcien.  Seigneur du Tour et de Nevele.  Letters dated 15 Jul 1389 record a claim by "Guillelmo de Fayello dicto le Besgué milite vicecomite de Bretolio ac cambellano nostro et…Margareta de Castellione domina de Porciano eius uxore” against “Ioanne de Castellione milite fratre dicta Margareta liberis comitis de Porciano…et defuncta Iaqueline de Dompnomartino eisudem comitis uxoris” regarding their father’s succession[119].  Duchesne records that Jean [II] de Châtillon sold the county of Porcéan to Louis de France Duc d’Orléans, whose son Charles Duc d’Orléans sold it in 1435 to Antoine de Croÿ to raise funds for his ransom for his release from captivity in England[120]

(3)       MARGUERITE de Châtillon (-after 15 Jul 1389).  Père Anselme records her parentage and her marriage to Charles de Savoisy, noting the dates of their marriage contract and ratification[121], which must have been her first marriage.  Heiress of Dammartin.  Letters dated 15 Jul 1389 record a claim by "Guillelmo de Fayello dicto le Besgué milite vicecomite de Bretolio ac cambellano nostro et…Margareta de Castellione domina de Porciano eius uxore” against “Ioanne de Castellione milite fratre dicta Margareta liberis comitis de Porciano…et defuncta Iaqueline de Dompnomartino eisudem comitis uxoris” regarding their father’s succession[122]m firstly (contract 30 Jan 1370 (O.S.?), ratified 28 Dec 1371) CHARLES de Savoisy, son of PHILIPPE de Savoisy Seigneur de Seignelay & his wife Marie de Duisy (-before 2 Dec 1372).  m secondly GUILLAUME de Fayel Vicomte de Breteuil, son of --- (-1408). 

ii)         HUGUES de Châtillon (-1393).  Duchesne records his parentage, citing “quelques Histoires et Arrests de la Cour” without providing further details[123].  Seigneur de Précy.  Duchesne records his death childless in 1393[124]m as her second husband, ISABELLE de Cramailles, widow of RAOUL Seigneur de Gaucourt, daughter of --- (-after 29 Nov 1398).  Letters dated 12 Jan 1377 (O.S.?) record a claim by "Margaretam de Claromonte dominam de Montegoberti filiam et heredem defunctæ Ioannæ de Chambliaco dominæ” against “Ysabellim de Cramailles relictam defuncti Radulphi domini de Gaucourt militis, suo et liberorum suorum et dicti militis annis minoris" against “comite Porciani fratre predictæ Margaretæ”, recording that “dicta Ysabellis” married “Hugone de Porciano milite”, after which “Guillelmusque de Gaucourt armiger” became guardian of the children[125].  A parliamentary register dated 29 Nov 1398 records a claim by "Ysabellim de Cramailles viduam relictam defuncti Hugonis de Porciano militis, dominam de Villa et de Pressiaco” against “Ioannem dominum de Cramailles alias dictum Floridas milite, tanquam baillum Baudonis de Cramailles filii defuncti Guidonis de Cramailles"[126]

iii)        GAUCHER de Châtillon (-afrter 1394).  Abbé de Saint-Maur-des-Fosses.  Duchesne records his parentage, noting his poor administration of his abbey which was granted to other administrators in 1394[127]

iv)       ISABELLE de Châtillon (-[7 Apr 1398/3 Sep 1407]).  Père Anselme records that “Isabeau de Chastillon”, daughter of Gauthier [VII] de Châtillon Comte de Porcien, married “Othe seigneur de Trasignies du nom de Rœux”, without citing the source on which he bases this information[128].  Goethals names her “Jeanne de Chastillon” without naming her parents[129].  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  The marriage contract between “Hostes de Tresignies et de Silly chlr et Hostes de Trasignies son aisnés fuils” and ”damme Isabeau de Castillon damme de Biesve” and between “mÿ ledit Hoston et...Jehenne demiselle de Biesve [...Viernes] et aisnée fille a ledite dame” is dated 4 Jan 1367 (O.S.) and names “[les] deux demiselles de Viernes suer a ladite demiselle Jehenne[130].  Isabelle declared her ownership of a castle at Ricey-Bas (Aube) in a charter dated 1381, which named her sister “Marguerite” married to “Gérard de Looz [seigneur de Chauvency]” [who witnessed Jeanne’s 4 Jan 1368 marriage contract] and “ses filles Isabelle, Jeanne et Marie[131].  “Ysabel de Chastillon dame de Trasignis, de Vierves et de Ricey en partie” confirmed homage for “la moitié par indivis...partant contre mon...frère mess. Gerart de Los chevalier signeur de Chauvency” of fiefs held from the king of France “à cause de son chastel et chastellerie de Bar sur Sayne” by charter dated 24 Jun 1388[132].  “Gérart de Los chevalier seigneur de Charancy, de Ricey de Polisy et de Polisot” confirmed homage for “la moitié...partant par indivis de notre...suer Ysabel de Chasteillon dame de Trasignie et de Vierves” of fiefs held from the king of France “à cause de son chastel et chastellerie de Bar sur Senne”, which he held “à cause de notre...espouse Marguerite de Chasteillon”, by charter dated 7 Apr 1398[133].  Isabelle was deceased by 3 Sep 1407, the date of the charter in which [her daughter] “Ysabeaul de Trasigny damiselle dame de Ricey, de Polisy et de Polisot en partie” confirmed homage for “la moitié...partans par indivis à men...seur Jehanne dame de Trasigny et de Vierves et demiselle Marie de Vierve assi ma seur...[et] mon...cousin monseigneur Jehan de Los chevalier seigneur de Chauvency et descry” of the same fiefs held from the king of France[134]m firstly JEAN de Barbançon Seigneur de Vierves, son of ROBERT de Barbançon Seigneur de Vierves & his wife --- (-before 1368).  m secondly (contract 4 Jan 1368) as his second wife, OSTE [IX] de Trazegnies Seigneur de Trazegnies et de Silly, son of JEAN Seigneur de Trazegnies & his wife Jeanne de Marbais Dame de Heppignies ([before 1320?]-[before 11 May 1380]). 

v)        MARGUERITE de Châtillon (-[7 Apr 1398/3 Sep 1407]).  She was not named by Duchesne[135].  Isabelle de Châtillon-Trazegnies declared her ownership of a castle at Ricey-Bas (Aube) in a charter dated 1381, which named her sister “Marguerite” married to “Gérard de Looz [seigneur de Chauvency]” [who witnessed Jeanne’s 4 Jan 1368 marriage contract] and “ses filles Isabelle, Jeanne et Marie[136].  “Ysabel de Chastillon dame de Trasignis, de Vierves et de Ricey en partie” confirmed homage for “la moitié par indivis...partant contre mon...frère mess. Gerart de Los chevalier signeur de Chauvency” of fiefs held from the king of France “à cause de son chastel et chastellerie de Bar sur Sayne” by charter dated 24 Jun 1388[137].  “Gérart de Los chevalier seigneur de Charancy, de Ricey de Polisy et de Polisot” confirmed homage for “la moitié...partant par indivis de notre...suer Ysabel de Chasteillon dame de Trasignie et de Vierves” of fiefs held from the king of France “à cause de son chastel et chastellerie de Bar sur Senne”, which he held “à cause de notre...espouse Marguerite de Chasteillon”, by charter dated 7 Apr 1398[138].  Marguerite was deceased by 3 Sep 1407, the date of the charter quoted above in which her son held interests in the same property.  m GERARD de Looz Seigneur de Chauvency, son of --- (-after 1381). 

b)         JEAN de Châtillon (-[before Sep 1360]).  The testament of "Marguerite dame dou Tour et de Dampierre famme de...Gaucher de Chastillon seigneur dou Tour et de Dampierre", dated late Dec 1309, bequeathed property to “Roinette qui nourissoit Gauchier et Jean ses fils[139].  "Galcherum de Castellioni comitem Porciani, Ioannem de Castellione eius fratrem et Petrum Flote militem, hæredes defuncti Galcheri de Castellione domini quondam du Tour patris dictorum comitis et Ioannis" donated property to “abbatis...sancti Pharonis Meldensis” by charter dated 18 Jul 1332[140].  Seigneur de Dampierre, de Sompuis et de Rollaincourt. 

-        SEIGNEURS de DAMPIERRE (CHÂTILLON).    

c)         HUGUES de Châtillon (-14 Jan 1318, bur Beaulieu).  An epitaph in Beaulieu abbey records the burial of "Hues de Chastillon fieuz de Monsieur Gaucher et de Dame Marguerite de Dampierre" who died 14 Jan 1318[141]

d)         MARGUERITE de Châtillon (-after 4 Mar 1335).  "Galcherum de Castellioni comitem Porciani, Ioannem de Castellione eius fratrem et Petrum Flote militem, hæredes defuncti Galcheri de Castellione domini quondam du Tour patris dictorum comitis et Ioannis" donated property to “abbatis...sancti Pharonis Meldensis” by charter dated 18 Jul 1332[142].  "Petrus Flote miles...ac Margareta uxoris suæ" challenged “comite Porciani fratre predictæ Margaretæ” regarding the succession of “defuncti Galchere de Castellione eorum patris” by charter dated 4 Mar 1334 (O.S.?)[143]m PIERRE Flotte Seigneur d’Escole, son of GUILLAUME Flotte Seigneur de Revel & his first wife Héloise de Mello (-Dec 1350). 

2.         JEAN de Châtillon (-1363, bur Cerfroy).  Letters dated Dec 1308 record that "Iehan de Chastillon filx de...Gauchiers de Chastillon Conte de Porcien et Connestable de France” confirmed the sale of “la terre...de Champrond” to “Monseigneur Enguerrand de Maregny conseiller et chambellan nostre sire le Roy de France[144].  Seigneur de Châtillon, de Gandelus, de Troissy et de Marigny.  "Messire Gaucher de Chastillon Comte de Porcean connestable de France” divided his territories between his sons by charter dated 3 May 1324, granting “le chastel de Gaudelus, la chastellenie de Marigny” to “Monsieur Iean son second fils[145].  Duchesne records that Jean died in 1363 and was buried in “l’église de Cerfroy proche de Gandelus[146]m firstly ELEONORE de Roye Dame de la Ferté en Ponthieu, de Dury et d’Yaucourt, daughter of MATHIEU [II] de Roye Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu & his wife Marguerite de Picquigny (-[7 Jan 1329/1333]).  Her marriage and family origin are confirmed by the marriage contract between "Iehan de Chasteillon chevalier Sires de Gandelus, de la Ferté et de Marigny et Lienor de Roye sa fame...Gauchier leur fils ainsné" and "Damoiselle Jeanne filhe de...Iehan de Guines Vicomte de Miaux et Sire de Fertez Ancoul et Gauchier et de feu Madame Jehanne de Chantilly iadis sa fame", dated Sep 1323[147].  A document of the Parlement de Paris dated 7 Jan 1329 records the rejection of the claim by “Jean de Chatillon chevalier et Aliénor sa femme, seigneurs de La Ferté en Ponthieu, d’Yaucourt et de Dury en Vermandois” for a fifth part of the dower of “Marguerite de Picquigny damoiselle de La Ferté, veuve de Mathieu de Roye et mère d’Aliénor[148].  Duchesne records a charter dated 1333 in which Jean donates property for the souls of “sa...compagne defunte et de leurs enfans[149]m secondly (contract 13 Oct 1336) ISABELLE de Montmorency, daughter of JEAN Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Jeanne de Calletot (-after 2 Mar 1341).  The marriage contract between "messires Charles sires de Montmorenci chevaliers et madame Marguerite de Beaugeu sa fame...damoiselle Ysabeaul de Montmorenci seur dudit monsieur Charles" and “messire Iean sires de Chasteillon cuen de France” is dated 13 Oct 1336[150].  Duchesne records a charter dated 1341 under which Jean and his wife consented to a donation to Cefroy[151]m thirdly (after 1341) JEANNE de Sancerre, widow of JEAN [III] Comte de Dammartin, daughter of JEAN [II] Comte de Sancerre & his first wife Louise de Bommiers (-[1354]).  "Ioannes de Castellione miles comes Porciani et Iacoba de Domnomartino uxor eius” revived the dispute between “Ioannem dominum de Castellione militem et Ioannam de Sacrocæsare comitissam de Domnimartino eius uxorem...gardam...Karoli comitis Domnimartino et...dictæ Jacobæ” and “Matheum de Tria militem, Ioannem eius fratrem, Yolendim et Lienoram de Tria eorum sorores” by charter dated 7 Mar 1350 (O.S.?)[152].  Duchesne records that Jeanne sued “Jean Seigneur de sainct Gobert chevalier” concerning “la justice de la ville de sainct Gobert” in 1353, adding that “peu de temps après” she died and was buried next to her first husband “dans l’église collégiale de sainct Martin[153].  Jean & his first wife had six children: 

a)         GAUCHER [VIII] de Châtillon (-[7 Sep/15 Dec] 1377).  He is named as son of Jean de Châtillon by his first wife in his marriage contract dated Sep 1323 (see below).  He succeeded his mother as Seigneur de la Ferté-en-Ponthieu.  He succeeded his fahter as Seigneur de Châtillon, de Troissy.  A court register dated 18 Feb 1366 (O.S.?) relates to a claim by "Galcherum dominum de Castellione ad causam uxoris suæ” against “Guillelmum Flote dicentem se dominum de Revella[154].  The testament of "Galcherus dominus de Chasteillon miles...gravi infirmitate”, dated 7 Sep 1377, was submitted to the council 15 Dec 1377 by his executors “messire Iean de Chastillomn sieur de Gandelus et de Duny et Messire Guy de Laval[155]m firstly (contract Sep 1323) JEANNE de Guines, daughter of JEAN de Guines Vicomte de Meaux & his wife Jeanne le Bouteiller de Senlis.  The marriage contract between "Iehan de Chasteillon chevalier Sires de Gandelus, de la Ferté et de Marigny et Lienor de Roye sa fame...Gauchier leur fils ainsné" and "Damoiselle Jeanne filhe de...Iehan de Guines Vicomte de Miaux et Sire de Fertez Ancoul et Gauchier et de feu Madame Jehanne de Chantilly iadis sa fame" is dated Sep 1323[156].  The chronology of their two families suggests that both parties were children at the time of this contract.  m secondly (after 1344) as her fourth husband, ALLEMANDE Flotte de Revel, widow firstly of ARMAND de Polignac Seigneur de Bouzols, secondly of EUSTACHE [V] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil, and thirdly of ENGUERRAND de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux, daughter of GUILLAUME Flotte de Revel, Chancelier de France & his first wife Héloise de Mello (-1371).  A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[157].  A judgment dated 5 May 1350 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem...et Alamandæ uxoris suæ...quondam uxoris Eustacii de Conflans militis” against “Ioannam de Aunayo relictam Ioannis d’Acy quondam militis” relating to the rights of “dictæ Ioannæ ex successione matris suæ[158].  Gaucher [VIII] & his second wife had three children: 

i)          JEAN de Châtillon (-1416).  Duchesne records his parentage[159].  Seigneur de Châtillon, de la Ferté-en-Ponthieu et d’Argenton.  Letters sealed 26 Feb 1372 record that "messire Iean de Chastillon et dame Marie de Montmorency sa femme” sold Argentan to “monsieur Pierre comte d’Alençon[160].  Duchesne notes that his brother Gaucher was appointed “curateur” of Jean 3 Jan 1401, quotes two subsequent charters relating to his property, and records Jean’s death in 1416[161].  [m firstly ISABELLE de Coucy, daughter of PHILIPPE de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux & his wife Jeanne le Flamenc de Canny (-1368).  This person appears to have been invented by Duchesne.  He states that Jean de Chastillon II Seigneur de Chastillon, de la Ferté en Ponthieu...encore pour lors jeune escuyer” married “Ysabeau de Coucy Vicomtesse de Meaux, qu’aucuns memoires appellent Jeanne de Guines” whom he calls her father’s oldest daughter, adding that she died childless in 1368[162].  He refers to Isabelle’s supposed testament, naming her executors[163].  However, Duchesne’s list of executors of this supposed testament are the same recorded as executors of Jeanne de Coucy, wife of Jean de Châtillon Seigneur de Dampierre, as recorded in a judgment dated 16 Nov 1368[164].  Duchesne cites no other source which confirms Isabelle’s existence, which appears disproved by the marriage contract of her supposed sister Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 which names Eléonore as her only full sister.]  m [secondly] (before 26 Feb 1372) as her second husband, MARIE de Montmorency, widow of GUILLAUME d’Ivry Seigneur d’Oissery et de Saint-Pathus, daughter of CHARLES [I] Seigneur de Montmorency & his second wife Jeanne de Roucy Dame de Blason et de Chimeliers-en-Anjou (-after 26 Feb 1372).  Letters sealed 26 Feb 1372 record that "messire Iean de Chastillon et dame Marie de Montmorency sa femme” sold Argentan to “monsieur Pierre comte d’Alençon[165].  Letters dated 26 Apr 1392 record the dower of "Perrenelle de Villiers dame de Montmorency” assigned by “Jacques seigneur de Montmorency son fils”, specifying that “feu Charles de Montmorency son mary” had bought the land in question from “monsieur Jean de Chastillon et de madame Marie de Montmorency sa femme, fille dudit defunt[166]

ii)         GAUCHER [IX] de Châtillon (-1413).  Duchesne records his parentage[167].  Seigneur de Troissy et de Marigny.  "Hue de Chastillon chantres et chanoines de Reins et sires de Marrigny” sold the seigneurie de Marigny to “Gauchier de Chastillon escuyer filz de...Gaucher seigneur de Chastillon et de la Ferté en Pontieu”, relating to the succession of “feu monseigneur Iean seigneur de Chastillon iadis son pere” and the acquisitions made by “Messire Charles de Chastillon chevalier seigneur de Ionchery”, by charter dated 24 Nov 1371[168].  Seigneur de Châtillon 1407.  Duchesne records his death in 1413[169]m firstly ([1383]) MARIE Cassinel, daughter of GUILLAUME [II] Cassinel Seigneur de Romainville & his wife Isabelle de Châtillon Vidamesse de Laonnois.  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, as well as other details concerning her family[170]m secondly (contract 10 Jan 1407) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Vendôme, widow of JULIEN des Essars Seigneur d’Ambleville, daughter of ROBERT de Vendôme Seigneur de Chartre-sur-Loir & his wife Jeanne de Chartres.  Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[171].  Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages without citing the corresponding primary sources[172]

-         SEIGNEURS de CHÂTILLON[173]

iii)        MARIE [Jeanne] de Châtillon (-after 16 Aug 1369).  A judgment dated 16 Nov 1368 relates to the testament of "defuncta Ioanna de Couciaco domicella vicecomitissa Meldensis uxor...Ioannis de Castellione scutiferi” and a claim by “Galchero de Castellione scutifero et domicella Ioannæ de Castellione eius sorors” against her executors “Ioannem de Castellione eius maritum...[174].  A parliamentary register dated 16 Aug 1369 refers to the claim by "Galcherum de Castellione armigerum et Mariam de Castellione domicellam eius sororem” against “Matheum dominum de Ligne militem...ad causam uxoris suæ heredum defunctæ Ioannæ de Couciaco domicellæ quondam vicecomitissa Meldensis[175]

b)         JEAN de Châtillon (-after 15 Dec 1377).  Duchesne records his parentage[176].  Seigneur de Gandelus, de Dury et de Brumet.  m as her second husband, ISABELLE de Saint-Dizier Dame de Montemois, widow of JEAN le Mercier, daughter of JEAN [II] de Saint-Dizier Seigneur de Saint-Dizier [Dampierre] & his wife Alix de Nesle d’Offemont (-13 Jan 1371, bur Cerfroy).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[177].  Jean & his wife had one child: 

i)          JACQUELINE de Châtillon (-1393, bur Vaucler).  Dame de Gandelus, de Dury et de la Bove.  Duchesne records her parentage, marriage, her death childless in 1393 and her burial[178]m JEAN de la Bove dit Barat Seigneur de la Bove, de Montchablon et de Maureny, son of ---.  

c)         GAUCHER de Châtillon (-before 1380).  Duchesne records his parentage[179].  Seigneur de Dours.  m firstly (1356) --- de Pacy, daughter of PHILIPPE de Pacy & his wife Nicole ---.  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[180]m secondly JEANNE de Bucy, daughter of SIMON de Bucy Seigneur de Bucy & his wife --- (-after 1391).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, noting other details about her family, and records that she claimed her dower from her husband’s son by his first marriage in 1380 and was executor for her brother in 1391[181]

-        SEIGNEUR de DOURS[182]

d)         HUGUES de Châtillon (-after 14 Apr 1377).  Duchesne records his parentage[183].  Canon at Reims.  Seigneur de Marigny.  "Hue de Chastillon chantres et chanoines de Reins et sires de Marrigny” sold the seigneurie de Marigny to “Gauchier de Chastillon escuyer filz de...Gaucher seigneur de Chastillon et de la Ferté en Pontieu”, relating to the succession of “feu monseigneur Iean seigneur de Chastillon iadis son pere” and the acquisitions made by “Messire Charles de Chastillon chevalier seigneur de Ionchery”, by charter dated 24 Nov 1371[184].  Duchesne records a judgment dated 14 Apr 1377 in which he is named[185]

e)         JEANNE de Châtillon (-after 5 Jan 1381).  "Gilles seigneur de Rodemach chevalier” transferred property “sur la recepte de Champagne ‘a cause de sa femme fille de...Monseigneur de Chastillon” to “messire Guy de Neufville chevalier seigneur de Prael cousin dudit seigneur de Rodemach” by charter dated 10 Jun 1362[186].  A judgment dated 5 Jan 1380 (O.S.?) relates to a claim by "Egidius dominus de Rodemach miles et Ioanna de Castellione eius uxor” against “comitem et comitissam Haricuriæ” relating to “terre...castellaniæ de Feritate in Pontius dictis de Haricuria per Ioannem dominum de Castellione modernum nepote dictæ Ioannæ[187]m GILLES [IV] Seigneur de Rodemack, son of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Rodemack & his wife --- (-after 5 Jan 1381). 

f)          ISABELLE de Châtillon .  Pleadings dated 30 Apr 1386 relate to a claim by "Messire Guy, frere Iean et Bertran de Laval” against “Mahiu Pigay”, claiming that “messire Bouchart de Laval” was “Seigneur d’Attichy”, married to “une Dame appellée d’Erquery”, by whom he had “messire Herpin qui mouru sans hoir, messire Guy, frere Iean et Bertran”, that from “messire Guy issit messire Guy qui vit, et son pere moru en la besongne de Crecy”, that Jean succeeded as seigneur d’Attichy after his brother Herpin died, that under the marriage contract between “Messire Guy et de Madame Ysabel de Chastillon” their children would succeed as seigneurs d’Attichy[188]m GUY de Laval Seigneur d’Attichy, de Saint-Aubin et de Chantilly, son of GUY de Laval Seigneur d’Attichy & his wife --- (-after 30 Apr 1386). 

Jean & his second wife had four children: 

g)         HUGUES de Châtillon ([1337/41?]-after 13 Oct 1376).  Seigneur de Germaines.  His parentage is shown by Duchesne, citing "divers Arrests de la Cour” [no further details], in particular a judgment dated 1376 in which he was fined “pour svoir commis quelques excés à Mareuil près de Chastillon en la personne de Jean Branlart escuyer”, and a pardon issued by Charles V King of France dated 13 Oct 1376 “pour avoir battu aucuns habitans de Suippe en la Seigneurie d’Avenay”; Duchesne comments that “je n’ay peu apprendre s’il laissa des enfans ou non[189].  [m --- Dame de Germaines, daughter of ---.   No documentary proof has been found about Hugues’s marriage, but it is possible that he acquired Germaines from his wife.  If that is correct, she could have been the descendant of Jean Seigneur du Bois and his wife Alix Dame de Germaines.  Two alternatives are possible: (1) Germaines could have passed from the du Bois family through the female line, a possibility which is suggested by Duchesne who records that "Elizabeth de Montaigu Comtesse de Roucy et de Braine, Dame de Montaigu, de Marcoussis et de Germaines” swore homage “à cause de sa terre de Germaines, tenue en fief du chasteau de Nanteuil” to “Bonne de Bar Comtesse de Liney et de S. Pol”, dated to after 1398[190].  The transfer of Germaines to Nanteuil-la-Fosse could have occurred when Marguerite du Bois (daughter of Jean Seigneur de Bois & Alix Dame de Germaines) married Gaucher [IV] de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse.  If that is correct, the chronology suggests that the wife of Hugues de Châtillon could have been --- de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, daughter of Erard [III] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Alix de Thianges Dame de Drony.  In this case, Hugues de Châtillon and his wife would have died childless, in light of the later transfer of Nanteuil-la-Fosse to the comital family of Roucy; (2) assuming that the direct male-line descendant of the du Bois family retained Germaines, the chronology suggests that Hugues’s wife could have been --- du Bois, daughter of Edouard [I] du Bois Seigneur du Bois et de Thony & his wife ---.  This second suggestion is unsupport by Henri [II] du Bois being named as seigneur de Germaines (see above), but unsustained by this person’s absence from the Nov 1368 charter which names her other supposed siblings (unless Hugues’s wife was already deceased at the time) (see the document CHAMPAGNE-PORCIEN, RETHEL, GRANDPRE).] 

h)         CHARLES de Châtillon (-1401).  Duchesne records his parentage, in one passage stating that he was his father’s son by his third wife but in a later passage naming his father’s second wife as his mother[191].  Charles’s appointment of Jacques de Montmorency as an executor of his testament (see below) suggests that the latter may be correct.  Seigneur de Souain et de Jonchery.  Seigneur de Châtillon.  "Hue de Chastillon chantres et chanoines de Reins et sires de Marrigny” sold the seigneurie de Marigny to “Gauchier de Chastillon escuyer filz de...Gaucher seigneur de Chastillon et de la Ferté en Pontieu”, relating to the succession of “feu monseigneur Iean seigneur de Chastillon iadis son pere” and the acquisitions made by “Messire Charles de Chastillon chevalier seigneur de Ionchery”, by charter dated 24 Nov 1371[192].  Duchesne records a charter dated 18 Sep 1387 in which Charles de Châtillon is named “souverain et general Maistre et Reformateur seul et pour le tout des eaux et forests du Royaume de France[193].  Duchesne notes the death of Charles in 1401 and that he appointed “Charles de Soecourt seigneur de Mouy son gendre et Jacques seigneur de Montmorency son cousin germain de par sa mere” as executors, although it is not clear from Duchesne’s text whether the testator’s family relationships with the executors were specified in the testament or whether they were added by Duchesne as his commentary[194].  [m firstly JEANNE de Coucy, daughter of ENGUERRAND [VI] Seigneur de Coucy & his wife Katharina of Austria.  Duchesne notes that “François l’Allouette luy attribue pour femme une des filles d’Enguerran seigneur de Coucy et de Catherine d’Autriche”, called “Jeanne de Coucy par quelques Memoires” [without specifying which], but comments that “je n’en ay point veu de tiltre[195].  The accuracy of this information cannot be guaranteed.]  m [secondly] (before 1387) as her second husband, MARIE [Isabelle] d’Arcelles, widow of JEAN [III] Seigneur de Commercy, daughter of --- d’Arcelles & his wife Lore de Joinville (-after 8 Mar 1397).  Europäische Stammtafeln names “Lore de Joinville dame de Méry-sur-Seine [en partie]” as mother of “Marie d’Arcelles dame de Méry-sur-Seine [en partie]” who married firstly Jean [III] Seigneur de Commercy and secondly Charles de Châtillon[196].  No indication has been found of the primary source on which this information is based.  Duchesne records that Charles de Châtillon swore homage to Pierre Bishop of Troyes for “la terre d’Estrelles, ou Straelles, à cause d’Ysabeau son espouse”, in the presence of “Guillaume du Plaissier et de Dreux de Mello, chevaliers”, by charter dated 1387[197].  The explanation for the names Isabelle/Marie has not been found.  Duchesne then records seeing a charter dated 1371 under which “Amé de Joinville chevalier seigneur de Mery sur Seine et d’Estrelles” swore homage to the bishop of Troyes for “la mesme terre d’Estrelles” and suggests that Marie/Isabelle “d’Arcelles” could have been his daughter, assuming that “Arcelles” and “Estrelles” refer to the same place[198].  Charles & his [first wife] had two children: 

i)          ISABELLE de Châtillon (-early 1403).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, noting that she and her sisters were their father’s daughters by his first marriage (but see his reservations about that first marriage above), and records details about her husband’s family and the couple’s descendants[199].  Dame de Châtillon et de Mouy en Beauvoisin.  m as his first wife, CHARLES de Soyecourt Seigneur de Mouy en Beauvoisin, son of GILLES de Soyecourt Seigneur de Mouy & his wife Jeanne de Picquigny (-killed in battle Agincourt 25 Oct 1415). 

ii)         JEANNE de Châtillon (-after 1451).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, noting that she and her sisters were their father’s daughters by his first marriage (but see his reservations about that first marriage above), and naming her descendants[200]m (contract 21 May 1383) PIERRE de Villiers, son of PIERRE de Villiers Seigneur de Massy, de l’Isle-Adam et de Valmondois & his second wife Marguerite de Vendôme (-1400). 

i)          JEAN de Châtillon .  Seigneur de Bonneuil-sur-Marne.  Duchesne records his parentage[201]m as her first husband, ISABELLE de Trie, daughter of BILLEBAUT de Trie & his wife --- (-after 1386).  Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[202].  She married secondly Jean de Poissy (-after 1386). 

-        SEIGNEURS de BONNEUIL-sur-MARNE[203]

j)          ISABELLE de Châtillon (-13 Jan 1413).  Duchesne indicates that Isabelle was Jean’s daughter by his second marriage[204].  The primary source which confirms that this is correct has not been identified.  "Domina Isabellis de Castellione domina de Anglura” swore homage to Pierre Bishop of Troyes for “terra sua de Anglura”, in the presence of “Ioanne de Anglura milite filio dictæ dominæ”, by charter dated 23 Jun 1384[205].  "Dominus Simon de Salesbrussia miles dominus temporalis de Commercy” swore homage to the Bishop of Troyes “ad causam...Isabellis de Castellione dominæ de dicta Anglura” by charter dated 4 Feb 1385 (O.S.?)[206]m firstly OGIER [IV] Seigneur d’Anglure et d’Estauges, son of OGIER [III] Seigneur d’Anglure & his first wife --- de Conflans (-Oct 1383, bur Troyes église des Jacobins).  m secondly ([23 Jun 1384/4 Feb 1386]) SIMON Seigneur de Commercy, son of JEAN [III] Seigneur de Commercy & his wife Marie d’Arcelles (-18 Jan 1396). 

Jean & his third wife had one child: 

k)         JACQUELINE de Châtillon (-17 Nov 1390, bur Ressons).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, her marriage contract in which she is named sister of Charles Comte de Dammartin [her uterine brother], her date of death and place of burial[207].  An epitaph at Ressons abbey records the burial of "Madame Iaqueline de Chastillon Dame de Cramoisy iadis femme de Monsieur Hutin d’Aumont chevalier, conseiller et chambellan du Roy” who died 17 Nov 1381 [year incorrect?][208]m (contract 19 Jan 1380) as his first wife, PIERRE d’Aumont dit Hutin, son of PIERRE d’Aumont Seigneur d’Aumont & his wife Jeanne du Deluge (-13 Mar 1413, bur Ressons). 

3.         HUGUES de Châtillon (-Saint-Jean de Laune Aug 1336).  Seigneur de Pontarcy, d’Auzoy, et de Rozoy-en-Thiérache,.  "Messire Gaucher de Chastillon Comte de Porcean connestable de France” divided his territories between his sons by charter dated 3 May 1324, granting “le Pontarsis, Auzoy, la chastellenie de Rosoy et ville de Requignies” to “Monsieur Hue son troisiesme fils[209].  Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy, de iure uxoris.  Duchesne records his date and place of death[210]m (before May 1328) as her first husband, MARIE de Clacy Dame de Pontarcy, daughter of BAUDOUIN Seigneur de Clacy Vidame de Laon & his wife --- (-after 15 May 1352).  Heiress of the Vidamé de Laon and of Clacy.  Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[211].  Duchesne records a charter dated May 1328 under which she and her husband donated property to Hôtel-Dieu[212].  She married secondly Hugues de Roucy Seigneur de Pierrepont.  She received Pontarcy as dower from her first marriage, and a settlement by way of dower after the death of her second husband by decision dated 15 May 1352[213].  Hugues & his wife had children: 

a)         GAUCHER de Châtillon (-[1355]).  Duchesne records his parentage[214].  Seigneur de Rozoy et de Clacy, Vidame de Laon.  m MARIE de Coucy, daughter of ENGUERRAND de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux & his first wife Maria von Vianden (-after Dec 1355).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  Duchesne records a charter dated early Dec 1355 under which she, acting on her own behalf and as guardian of her children, reached agreement with the bishop of Laon[215].  Gaucher & his wife had three children: 

i)          MARIE de Châtillon (-1410).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[216].  Vidamesse de Laon.  Pierre de la Ferté-Bernard, Jeanne de Châtillon, Jean de Craon vidame de Laonnais et Marie sa femme” and “Robert et Jean de Béthune” reached agreement about “l’héritage de Coucy” by charter dated 8 Jul 1389[217]Duchesne records her death in 1410[218]m (1364) JEAN de Craon Seigneur de Dommart, son of GUILLAUME de Craon “le Grand” Seigneur de Dommart et de Bernarville & his wife Marguerite de Flandre (-before 1400). 

ii)         ISABELLE de Châtillon .  Duchesne records her parentage, her first marriage contract, and her second marriage[219].  Her first marriage appears inconsistent with Père Anselme’s report that Mathieu [II] Seigneur de Roye was a hostage in England from 1360 to [1374][220].  No information has yet been found to explain this apparent inconsistency.  [m firstly (contract 1 Sep 1363) as his third wife, MATHIEU [II] Seigneur de Roye, son of JEAN [II] Seigneur de Roye & his wife --- (-[Mar 1378/1380], bur Longpont).]  m [secondly] GUILLAUME Cassinel Seigneur de Pomponne et de Romainville, son of ---. 

iii)        JEANNE de Châtillon (-after 1426).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[221].  Dame de Rozoy-en-Thiérache.  Pierre de la Ferté-Bernard, Jeanne de Châtillon, Jean de Craon vidame de Laonnais et Marie sa femme” and “Robert et Jean de Béthune” reached agreement about “l’héritage de Coucy” by charter dated 8 Jul 1389[222]m PIERRE de Craon Seigneur de la Ferté-Bernard, son of GUILLAUME de Craon Vicomte de Châteaudun & his wife Marguerite de Flandre (-after 1392). 

b)         MARIE de Châtillon (-11 Apr 1395).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[223].  Dame de Pontarcy.  m SIMON de Roucy Comte de Braine, son of JEAN [V] Comte de Roucy et de Braine & his wife Marguerite de Bommiers (-Bois-lez-Roucy 18 Feb 1392, bur Braine Saint-Yved). 

c)         other children .  Duchesne records a decision dated 1336 which names other sons and daughters[224]

4.         JEANNE de Châtillon (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques).  "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont[225].  The testament of "Gautiers dux d’Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d’Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[226].  After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[227].  "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[228], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece.  A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[229].  An epitaph at Troyes records the burial of "Madame Ieanne de Chastillon duchesse d’Athenes, comtesse de Brene et de Liche…fille de monsieur Gaucjer seigneur de Chastillon comte de Porcien jadis connestable de France" who died 16 Jan 1354[230]m (before Oct 1305) GAUTHIER de Brienne Conte di Lecce, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce).  Duke of Athens 1308. 

5.         MARIE de Châtillon (-after 18 Apr 1318).  The marriage contract between "Gauchier de Chasteillon conte de Porcien et connestable de France...Marie fille" and “Guichars sires de Biaugieu” is dated Jan 1308[231].  The testament of Marie de Châtillon is dated 1317[232]m (contract Jan 1308) as his second wife, GUICHARD [VI] Seigneur de Beaujeu, son of LOUIS de Forez Seigneur de Beaujeu & his wife Eleonore de Savoie (-Paris 1331). 

6.         ISABELLE de Châtillon .  Abbess of Notre-Dame de Soissons.  Duchesne records that the epitaph of her brother Gaucher [VI] de Châtillon at l’Abbaye du Pont names her abbess of Soissons Notre-Dame[233]

Gaucher [V] & his second wife had one child: 

7.         GUY de Châtillon (-2 Oct 1362, bur Abbaye d'Igny).  Duchesne records his parentage[234].  Seigneur de La Fère-en-Tardenois, de Fay, de Saint-Lambert et de Guzigny.  "Messire Gaucher de Chastillon Comte de Porcean connestable de France” divided his territories between his sons by charter dated 3 May 1324, granting “le chastel et chastellenie de Fere en Tardenois, S. Lambert, Guzigny” to “Monsieur Guiot son quatriesme fils[235].  Duchesne records his death and burial[236]m (1324) MARIE de Lorraine, daughter of THIBAUT II Duke of Lorraine & his wife Isabelle de Rumigny (-after 1344, bur Abbaye d'Igny).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, noting a charter dated 9 Jun 1335 under which her nephew Raoul Duke of Lorraine promised rights in “les seigneuries de Passavant et de Wallers” in exchange for renouncing other rights of succession[237].  Guy & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         GAUCHER de Châtillon (-after 10 Mar 1404, bur Igny).  Duchesne records his parentage[238].  Vicomte de Blaigny, Seigneur de La Fère-en-Tardenois, de Fay, de Saint-Lambert et de Guzigny.  A proxy was given 1394 to “Pierre de Merlie saige en droit” to take possession of “la terre d’Havrincourt et de la vicomté de Bligny”, given as dowry to “Jeanne de Ghistelle” by “Gaucher de Châtillon son aïeul et Jean de Ghistelle son père[239].  Duchesne records Gaucher’s donation of revenue from Provins to Igny by charter dated 10 Mar 1404, adding that “il deceda bien-tost apres” and was buried at Igny with his wife[240]m JEANNE, daughter of --- (-bur Igny).  Duchesne says that “François d’Allouette” records that Gaucher married “[une] fille d’Enguerran Seigneur de Coucy et de Catherine d’Autriche” and that “quelques memoires non impriméz portent qu’elle estoit de la Maison de Piqueny”, noting that the couple founded “la chapelle de Fère” at Igny (no date specified)[241].  Duchesne records that and was buried at Igny with his wife[242].  Gaucher & his wife had two children: 

i)          MARIE de Châtillon (-after 18 Feb 1394).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[243].  The marriage contract between “Henri de Montfaucon fils d’Etienne comte de Montbéliard” and “Marie fille de Gaucher de Châtillon-sur-Marne vicomte de Bligny” is dated 1383[244].  Vicomtesse de Blaigny.  The testament of Marie de Châtillon “malade et infirme de corps”, dated 18 Feb 1394, appointed as her heirs “Henriette, Marguerite, Jeanne et Agnès nées d’elle et de M. d’Orbesson son...mari[245]m (18 Jan 1383) as his first wife, HENRI de Montfaucon Seigneur d’Orbe, d’Echallens, de Montagny-le-Corboz, son of ETIENNE de Montfaucon Comte de Montbéliard & his wife Marguerite de Chalon ([1366]-killed in battle Nikopolis 28 Sep 1396). 

ii)         JEANNE de Châtillon (-after 1395).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[246].  A charter dated 29 Apr 1389 records “Jan heer van Gistel, gehuwd met Jehane van Sasteljoen[247].  “Jean de Ghistelle et sa femme Jeanne de Châtillon” consented to the repurchase of “Havrincourt” by “Gaucher de Châtillon” from “Jean de Chalon” by charter dated 1395[248]m as his second wife, JAN [VI] Heer van Gistel, son of JAN [V] Heer van Gistel & his wife Isabella Johanna van Rode (-early 1417). 

b)         [MARIE de Châtillon .  Duchesne records her possible parentage and marriage[249]m (1353) JEAN de Lorriz, son of ROBERT de Lorriz Seigneur d’Ermenonville et de Beaurain, Vicomte de Monstreuil-sur-la-Mer & his wife ---.] 

 

 

 

D.      COMTES de PORCIEN (CROY)

 

 

The following reconstruction of this family is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking to other families studied in Medieval Lands.  The information has not been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated. 

 

 

ANTOINE [I] de Croÿ “le Grand”, son of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Croÿ & his wife Marguerite de Craon (-1475, bur château de Porcien).  Seigneur de Croÿ, de Renty, de Beaurain, de Bar-sur-Aube.  Chambellan de Philippe “le Bon” Duke of Burgundy 1431.  Comte de Porcien 1438.  Duchesne records that Jean [II] de Châtillon sold the county of Porcéan to Louis de France Duc d’Orléans, whose son Charles Duc d’Orléans sold it in 1435 to Antoine de Croÿ to raise funds for his ransom for his release from captivity in England[250].  Seigneur de Beaumont [en Hainaut] 1453.  Grand Maître de France 1462. 

m firstly MARIE de Roubais, daughter of JEAN Seigneur de Roubais et de Herzelles & his wife Agnes de Lannoy. 

m secondly (contract Amiens 5 Oct 1432) MARGUERITE de Lorraine Vrouw van Aarschot, Bierbeck en Heverle, daughter of ANTOINE de Lorraine Comte de Vaudémont Seigneur de Joinville & his wife Marie d'Harcourt (-after 15 Sep 1477[251])

Antoine & his second wife had children: 

1.         JEANNE de Croÿ ([1435]-Kreuzberg near Zweibrücken 18 Jun 1504, bur Meisenheim Stadtkirche)m (Luxembourg 20 Mar 1454) LUDWIG "der Schwarze" Pfalzgraf von Zweibrücken, son of STEFAN Pfalzgraf in Simmern und Zweibrücken & his wife Anna von Veldenz (1424-19 Jul 1489, bur Meisenheim Stadtkirche). 

2.         PHILIPPE [I] de Croÿ (-1511, bur Porcien).  He succeeded his father in 1475 as Comte de Porcien.  Seigneur de Croÿ, d’Aarschot, de Renty, d’Araines et de Bar-sur-Aube.  m (Luxembourg 1455) JACQUELINE de Luxembourg, daughter of LOUIS de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol, de Brienne et di Conversano & his first wife Jeanne de Bar Ctss de Marle et de Soissons (-1511).  Philippe & his wife had three children: 

a)         HENRI de Croÿ (-1514, bur Porcien).  He succeeded his father in 1511 as Comte de Porcien et de Seneghem.  Seigneur de Croÿ, d’Aarschot, de Renty.  m CHARLOTTE de Châteaubriand Dame de Loigny en Perche, daughter of RENE de Châteaubriand Seigneur de Loigny & his wife Hélène d’Estouteville (-Loigny 1509).  Henri & his wife had children: 

i)          PHILIPPE [II] de Croÿ ([1496]-Brussels Apr 1549, bur Avesnes).  He succeeded his father in 1514 as Comte de Porcien et de Seneghem.  Seigneur de Croÿ, d’Aarschot, de Renty.  Marquis d’Aarschot 1526.  Duke of Aarschot 1533. 

-         DUKES of AARSCHOT

ii)         GUILLAUME de Croÿ ([1497/98]-Worms 6 Jan 1521, bur Heverlo).  Abbot of Afflighem.  Bishop of Cambrai 1516.  Archbishop of Toledo.  Cardinal 1517.  Chancellor of the kingdom of Castile. 

iii)        CHARLES de Croÿ (-after [1540]).  Seigneur de Moncornet.  Comte de Porcien.  m firstly (contract 13 May 1529) as her second husband, RENEE de la Marck, widow of AME [III] de Commercy Comte de Roucy et de Braine, daughter of GUILLAUME de la Marck Seigneur de Montbazon & his wife ---.  m secondly FRANÇOISE d’Amboise, widow of RENE de Clermont Seigneur de Saint-Georges, daughter of JACQUES d’Amboise Seigneur de Raynel et de Bussy & his wife Antoinette d’Amboise Dame de Ravel.  Charles & his second wife had one child: 

(a)       ANTOINE de Croÿ ([1540/41]-Paris 5 May 1567).  Marquis de Raynel 1560.  Comte d’Eu, de iure uxorisPrince de Porcien 1561.  m (contract 4 Oct 1560) as her first husband, CATHERINE de Clève Ctss d'Eu, daughter of FRANÇOIS de Clève Duc de Nevers & his first wife Marguerite de Bourbon (1548-Paris, 11 May 1633, bur Eu).  She married secondly (Paris 4 Oct 1570) Henri Duc de Guise

iv)       ROBERT de Croÿ (-31 Aug 1556, bur Cambrai Cathedral).  Bishop of Cambrai 1519. 

v)        CHARLES de Croÿ ([1506/07]-Saint-Ghislain 11 Dec 1564).  Bishop of Tournai 1524. 

vi)       HELENE de Croÿ .  m JACQUES de Luxembourg Comte de Gavre, Seigneur de Fiennes, son of JACQUES de Luxembourg Comte de Gavre, Seigneur de Fiennes & his wife Marguerite de Bruges (-1532, bur Armentières)

vii)      JACQUELINE de Croÿ ).  The marriage contract between “Anthonyse van Bergen jongste soene heeren Jans heere van Bergen-opten-Zoom ridders...” and “jouffrouwen Jacquelynen van Croy” is dated 12 Mar 1520[252]m (contract 12 Mar 1520) ANTON van Glymes, son of JAN Heer van Glymes en Bergen-op-Zoom & his wife Adrienne de Brimeu (13 May 1500-27 Jun 1541).  Heer van Glymes en Bergen-op-Zoom 1531.  Comte de Walhain 1533.  Markies van Bergen-op-Zoom 1533. 

b)         ANTOINE de Croÿ (-Cyprus 21 Sep 1495).  Bishop of Thérouanne 1486. 

c)         GUILLAUME de Croÿ (-Worms 28 May 1521, bur Heverlo).  Duca di Soria.  Markies van Aarschot.  m as her second husband, MARIE de Hamal, widow of ADOLPHE de la Marck, daughter of GUILLAUME de Hamal Seigneur d’Elderen & his wife Jeanne de Merode (-after 1559). 

3.         JEAN de Croÿ (-after 1487).  Seigneur de Rœulx. 

-        COMTES de RŒULX, PRINCES et DUCS de CROY[253]

4.         MARGUERITE de CroÿCharters dated May 1454 and 12 Jun 1455 record the marriage of “joncvrauwe Margriete van Croy, mer Anthonis dochtere” and “Hendrik burggraaf van Montfoort en heer van Purmerend[254]m (May 1454, 12 Jun 1455) HENDRIK Burggraaf van Montfoort, Heer van Purmerend, son of ---. 

5.         ISABELLE de Croÿ m GUYON d’Estouteville Seigneur de Moyon, de Hambye, de Briquebec et de Gascé, son of MICHEL Seigneur d’Estouteville & his wife Marie de la Roche-Guyon (-after 11 Nov 1505). 

6.         JACQUELINE de Croÿ (-1486, bur Belœil)m (1473) JEAN [III] Baron de Ligne, son of MICHEL Seigneur de Ligne, Baron de Barbançon & his wife Bonne d’Abbeville (-1491, bur Belœil). 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 2.    NOBILITY in PORCIEN

 

 

 

A.      SEIGNEURS de LOR

 

 

Lor is a commune in north-eastern France, situated about 15 kilometres west of Château-Porcien in the present-day French département of Aisne (arrondissement Laon, canton Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne), on the border with the département of Ardennes, and about 30 kilometres north of Reims. 

 

 

1.         RENAUD de Lor ([before 1275?]-killed in battle Cassel [23/24] Aug 1328, bur Saint-Bertin).  The parentage of Renaud de Lor has not been ascertained.  His birth date is estimated from the marriage date of his son Gaucher in [May 1322] as shown below.  The seal of “Renaud de Lor chevalier” was attached to “une quittance de gages” dated at Lille 30 Dec 1299[255].  Conseiller du roi, châtelain de Laon 1316/1318[256].  Châtelain de Laon: “Dominus Reginardus de Lauro miles castellanus Laudunensis” acknowledged payments dated Jun 1322[257].  Accounts dated Dec 1322 record expenses paid to “Dominus Regin[aldus] de Lauro miles” for a mission “ad Regem Boemie”, and payments to “Galcherus de Lauro armiger ratione uxoris sue filie Galteri de Hondecoste militis” made “super medietatem Ascensionis CCCXXII...per litteram domini de Lauro[258].  Seigneur de Resson: “Renaus chevaliers sires de Lor et chastelains de Laon” confirmed holding property “en la terre de Resson pour cause de la dame de Lor nostre compaigne”, as well as half the property held by “madame Aalis jadis femme à nostre...seingneur mons. Villain jadis seingneur de Resson” as dower, by charter dated 25 Mar 1323[259]The Grandes Chroniques de France record the death in battle at Cassel of “monseigneur Regnaut de Lor” and his burial “à Saint-Bertin[260]The Chronique Parisienne Anonyme de 1316 à 1339 records how “mons. Regnault de Lor chevalier du roy de France” challenged Flemish soldiers approaching the king’s tent before the battle but was killed by them “avec ung de ses escuiers[261]m ([before 1295?]) --- de Resson, daughter of VILAIN Seigneur de Resson [Aulnay] & his wife Alix de Lalobbe (-after 25 Mar 1323).  Renaus chevaliers sires de Lor et chastelains de Laon” confirmed holding property “en la terre de Resson pour cause de la dame de Lor nostre compaigne”, as well as half the property held by “madame Aalis jadis femme à nostre...seingneur mons. Villain jadis seingneur de Resson” as dower, by charter dated 25 Mar 1323[262].  Renaud & his wife had two children: 

a)         GAUCHER de Lor ([before 1300]-after Aug 1355).  Accounts dated Dec 1322 record payments to “Galcherus de Lauro armiger ratione uxoris sue filie Galteri de Hondecoste militis” made “super medietatem Ascensionis CCCXXII...per litteram domini de Lauro[263].  Presumably these payments related to Gaucher’s marriage settlement.  Accounts dated 31 Oct 1323 record “Galcherus de Lauro armiger” owing “Galteri de Hondescote...per litteram domini Reginaldi de Lauro patris dicti armigeri[264].  Accounts dated Jun 1324 record “Galcherus de Lauro armiger” owing “Galteri de Hondescote...per dominum Renaudum de Lauro patrem suum”, relating to the same debt[265].  Seigneur de Resson: Philippe VI King of France, after the battle of Crécy, fled to “[le] château de Broye, pour assurer la ville de Reims contre les surprises du vainqueur” and appointed as captain “Gaucher de Lor seigneur de Resson” who, unable to perform these functions, appointed “le seigneur de Broye son lieutenant[266].  Philippe VI King of France ordered “[le] bailly de Vermandois” to obtain the keys of the town from “le seigneur de Broyes, se disant lieutenant de nostre amé Gaucher de Lor chevalier seigneur de Resson, quy se dict cappitayne depputé de par nous en ladicte ville de Reims” and return them to the archbishop of Reims, by charter dated 29 Jul 1347[267].  “Gaucher de Lor et Robert Coillarville” delivered requests from Charles II “le Mauvais” King of Navarre to Jean II King of France, dated to Aug 1355[268]m (contract 1318) ALIX de Hondschote, daughter of GAUTHIER [III] Seigneur de Hondschote & his wife Jeanne de Haverskerque.  Le Carpentier records the 1318 marriage contract of Alix de Hondschote and “Gauthier de Lor”, which named her paternal and maternal relatives “Robert de Fiennes, Philippes d’Axele, Thierry de Bevre, Gerard de Rassenghien, Jean de Haverskerque Sr de Watene, Jean de S. Omer Sr de Pennes, Aleaume Brequin, Philippes de Havesquerque et Ysoré de Pennes[269]Her parentage and marriage are recorded in the documents quoted above which name her husband and her father. 

b)         ISABELLE de Lor ([1295/1305]-[Jan] 1347, bur Morimond)Her first marriage and family origin are confirmed by the summary of a charter dated 2 Jan 1348 which records waiver in favour of “Renier de Choiseul sire d’Aigremont” of a debt incurred by “son père feu Renier de Choiseul chevalier, la veuve de celui-ci feu Isabelle de Lor dame de Vielsmaisons [title from her second marriage], son frère Guillaume chevalier, son autre frère Girard écuyer et lui-même[270], although this summary must be inaccurate as discussed under Renier [II] in the Choiseul-Aigremont section of the present document.  Isabelle’s precise parentage and second marriage are confirmed by the genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], which records that “messire Jean...sire de Vielsmaisons” married “la fille monseigneur Regnauld seigneur de Lor”, by whom he had “un fils...Jean de Conflans sire de Vieilsmaisons[271].  Her date of birth is estimated from the date of marriage of her brother Gaucher de Lor in [May 1322] and considering the probable dates of her two marriages.  The date of her second marriage is suggested by the reconstruction of her descendants by her second husband.  Père Anselme states that “Isabeau de Lor fille de Raoul [mistake for Renaud] de Lor” married secondly Jean de Conflans I du nom seigneur de Vezilly”, and says that she died Jan 1347, and was buried “auprès de son premier mary à Morimond” (without citing any primary sources on which these statements are based)[272].  This date is consistent with the 2 Jan 1348 charter quoted above in which Isabelle de Lor is described as “feu”. m firstly ([1310/20]) as his second wife, RENIER [I] de Choiseul Seigneur d’Aigremont, son of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Choiseul & his [first] wife Bartholomette [Alix] d’Aigremont ([1255/65]-[Aug 1311/1325], bur Morimond).  m secondly ([1320/25?]) JEAN [I] de Conflans Seigneur de Vieilmaisons, son of HUGUES [II] de Conflans Seigneur de Conflans, Maréchal de Champagne & his second wife --- de Châlons ([1280/1300?]-[before 1350]). 

 

 

The relationships, if any, between the following persons and the earlier Lor family have not been ascertained. 

 

1.         JEAN de Lor (-after 28 Oct 1383).  Seigneur de Lor: the seal of “Jean Sire de Lor chevalier” was attached to two “quittance[s] de gages” dated at Amiens 18 Jul 1380 and 28 Oct 1383[273]

 

 

1.         GAUTHIER de Lor (-1380).  Seigneur de Brais.  m (1363) MARGUERITE de Walcourt, daughter of JEAN de Walcourt Heer van de Aa & his wife Jeanne de Looz ([1345/50]-[1383/84]).  Thierry d’Orjo has confirmed her parentage, marriage, and her and her husband’s dates of death[274].  Gauthier & his wife had one child: 

a)         MARIE de Lor ([1365/70]-[2 Feb 1392/1415], bur Foigny)Henri swore allegiance “pour St-Germainmont et Hanongne, du chef de Marie de Lor sa femme” by charter dated 2 Feb 1392[275]m ([1380/90]) as his first wife, HENRI [III] Seigneur de Hans, son of HENRI [II] Seigneur de Hans & his wife Beatrix de Commercy (-after 1436). 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 3.    RETHEL

 

 

 

A.      COMTES d'OMONT, COMTES de RETHEL

 

 

The county of Rethel was located south of the county of Porcien, north-west of Reims and south-west of Mézières, in the present-day French département of Ardennes.  It evolved in the pagus Portianus, also called Portensis and Portuensis, within the diocese of Reims, co-terminous with the ecclesiastical doyennés of Saint-Germainmont, Châtelet, Justine, Launoy and Rumigny[276]

 

 

[Two] siblings: 

1.         BERNARD [Balthasar] (-after 945).  The primary source which confirms Bernard’s parentage has not been identified.  However, he named his son Manassès, which suggests that he may have been the son of Manassès Comte de Porcien (see above).  Comte [de Porcien].  Flodoard's Annales record in 933 that "Richarius episcopus Tungrensis" captured "castellum Bernardi comitis" which the latter had constructed "apud Harceias [Arches] in pago Porcinse"[277]Comte de Rethel.  Flodoard's Annales record that in 945 that "rex Ludowicus" besieged "Remorem…urbem" with "militum Arnulfi sed et Artoldo episcopo…comitibus…Bernardo ac Theoderico nepote ipsius"[278]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "rex Ludovicus et Artholdus et comes de Retest Bernardus et Theodericus nepos eius” besieged "civitatem Remensem" in 946[279].  The Chronicon Maceriense (a dubious source) records in 941 that "Balthazar Registensis" made peace with Warin and requested the hand in marriage of "Guarino Ordelam" for "Manasse filio"[280]m ---, daughter of ---.  As her son Manassès is named as "nepote domni Artoldi præsulis" in Flodoard[281], it is assumed that his mother was the bishop’s sister, assuming that the word "nepos" can be interpreted in its strict sense of nephew.  The name of her husband is confirmed by the Chronicon Maceriense (a dubious source, as noted below) which records in 941 that "Balthazar Registensis" made peace with Warin and requested the hand in marriage of "Guarino Ordelam" for "Manasse filio"[282], although “Balthazar” is unlikely to have been a name used at that time.  It can safely be assumed that it was not Bernard/Balthasar who was the brother of Archbishop Artaud as, if that had been the case, it is probable that the sources which have stated the fact.  Bernard [Balthasar] & his wife had one child: 

a)         MANASSES [I] (-after 989).  His parentage is confirmed by the Chronicon Maceriense (a dubious source, as noted below) which records in 941 that "Balthazar Registensis" made peace with Warin and requested the hand in marriage of "Guarino Ordelam" for "Manasse filio"[283].  Flodoard's Annals record that in 960 "Manasse nepote domni Artoldi præsulis" captured traitors at "Altmontem castrum"[284].  The Annales Hanoniæ name "Manicerius Regitestensis dominus" as son of "ex filiabus Walterici ducis Alsassie Alboinis filius comitis Hainauci"[285], which appears to be pure fantasy.  "Manasses miles" is named in a charter dated 6 Nov 972[286].  "Manasses" subscribed a charter dated 26 May 974[287].  Gerbert d'Aurillac names "Mann[asse]s comes" in a letter dated to end Aug 988[288].  Richer records that "Manasse et Rotgerus" invaded the sanctuary "cum Karolo urbis Remorum…sanctæ Dei genitricis Mariæ basilicam" in 989[289].  Comte d'Omont.  Comte de Rethel.  Comte de Castres, Comte de Mézières: the Chronicon Maceriense records the death in 960 of "Guarinus sine progenie", adding that "comitatum Castriensem et Macerias" was inherited by "Manasses Registetensis comes ex Ordela uxore Guarini filia"[290]m [(941) ORDELA de Castres, daughter of WARIN Comte de Castres & his second wife Gilla de Dormois.  The Chronicon Maceriense records in 941 that "Balthazar Registensis" made peace with Warin and requested the hand in marriage of "Guarino Ordelam" for "Manasse filio"[291].  It should be noted the authenticity of this document has been contested by both Wattenbach and Longnon in Germany and France respectively[292].  The information contained in this source should therefore be treated with extreme caution.]  Manassès [I] & his wife had one child: 

i)          MANASSES [II] ([942/60]-[29 Mar] after 1026).  [His parentage is confirmed by the Chronicon Maceriense which records in 1020 that "Hermanus Grandipratensis cum Manasse Registensi" had a dispute because "Manasses filius Manasses et Ordele" claimed the right to "castrum Julie et in Dulcomensem comitatum" as the son of "Ordela mater nata…ex Guarino et Gilla Marci Dulcomensis filia"[293], although as noted above this source should be treated with extreme caution.]  Comte de Rethel.  The necrology of Reims Saint-Rémi records the death "IV Kal Apr" of "Manasses comes"[294].]  m DADA, daughter of --- (-5 Oct ----).  "Raimbertus Virdunice civitatis pastor" confirmed the donation of property "ecclesiam de Bedrui…et ad Clarisellum…et ad Lauannam…et…ad Nouam villam…[et] Ampliuium" to Verdun Sainte-Vanne by "domina Dada comitissa uxor Manasse comitis de Reitest" at the request of "Richardi sancti Vitoni confessoris Christi", and for the love of "loci et predicti abbatis Richardi comite Odone in cuius comitatu sita sunt", by charter dated 1026[295].  Assuming that the dates relating to the wife of Manassès [III] are correct as shown below, the date of this charter appears too early for Dada to have been the first wife of Manassès [III].  It is more likely therefore that she was the wife of Manassès [II], no reference to whom has yet been found in other sources.  The identification of "comite Odone" has not yet been established with certainty.  The location of the properties in his county suggests that he may have been closely related to Dada, maybe her father or brother.  The death of Eudes II Comte de Blois is recorded in the necrology of Verdun Saint-Vanne, although the location of the named properties has not been established to confirm whether they may have been within his counties.  If "comite Odone" was the comte de Blois, it would be chronologically consistent for Dada to have been his sister.  The necrology of Verdun Saint-Vanne records the death "III Non Oct" of "Dada comitissa qui dedit nobis ecclesiam de Bedrui…"[296]

2.         [--- .]  m ---.  One child: 

a)         THIERRY (-after 945).  Flodoard's Annales record that in 945 that "rex Ludowicus" besieged "Remorem…urbem" with "militum Arnulfi sed et Artoldo episcopo…comitibus…Bernardo ac Theoderico nepote ipsius"[297]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "rex Ludovicus et Artholdus et comes de Retest Bernardus et Theodericus nepos eius” besieged "civitatem Remensem" in 946[298]

 

 

1.         MANASSES [III] (-1081 or after).  Assuming that the chronology of the earlier members of the Rethel family is correctly shown above, it appears unlikely that Manassès [III] was the son of Manassès [II].  It is more likely that there was an intervening generation, about which no information has been uncovered in the primary sources so far consulted.  Comte de Rethel.  The Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium names "Manassem comitem de castro Retexto" in an undated passage which appears to relate to events in the early 1080s[299].  A charter dated 26 Sep 1081 records the restoration of privileges granted by “Manasses Regitestensis comes”, with the consent of “uxore Judiz et venerabili Hugone filio”, to the chapter of Braux[300]m (before [1045/55][301]) JUDITH, daughter of --- ([1020/30]-).  A charter dated 26 Sep 1081 records the restoration of privileges granted by “Manasses Regitestensis comes”, with the consent of “uxore Judiz et venerabili Hugone filio”, to the chapter of Braux[302].  Her birth date range is estimated for consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants.  Her origin is unknown, three possible origins have been suggested: 

·         JUDITH [de Roucy, daughter of --- & his wife ---].  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio" and, in a later passage, "Iuetta soror…Letaldi de Marla" as mother of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[303]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Reitest, uxor comitis Manesserii Iutta” as sister of "fraters Ebalus comes de Roceio et Letardus domnus de Marla"[304].  Given the estimated birth date of Judith, wife of Comte Manassès, as shown above, it is chronologically impossible for her to have been the daughter of Giselbert Comte de Roucy, who died in the last years of the 10th century.  However, it is not impossible that she was the uterine half-sister of Ebles Comte de Roucy, assuming that their mother remarried after the death of her husband Giselbert. 

·         [IDA] [de Boulogne, daughter of EUSTACHE I Comte de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde de Louvain.]  Receuil des historiens des croisades[305], Runciman[306] and Riley-Smith[307] all say that the paternal grandmother of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem was the daughter of Eustache I Comte de Boulogne, but the primary source on which this suggestion is based has not yet been identified.  Runciman1361 and Riley-Smith1362 both call her "Ida", which is inconsistent with the charter evidence cited above, Runciman naming her husband "Baldwin of Le Bourg Count of Rethel" which is doubly inconsistent.  There is no mention of such a daughter in the Genealogica comitum Boloniensium.  Chronologically, this origin is more appealing than the Roucy hypothesis, given the estimated birth date range of Eustache II Comte de Boulogne, son of Comte Eustache I, in [1015/20]. 

·         [JUDITH] of Lotharingia, daughter of GODEFROI "le Barbu" Duke of Lower Lotharingia & his first wife Doda ---.  In the commentary to "Li Estoire de Jerusalem et d'Antioche", the wife of Manassès is referred to as an unnamed daughter of Godefroi "le Barbu" Duke of Lower Lotharingia, therefore sister of Ida who married Eustache II Comte de Boulogne[308].  If this is correct, it would provide an explanation for the evidently close family relationship between Baudouin I King of Jerusalem and his successor King Baudouin II, the exact nature of which has not been confirmed from other sources.  While no primary source has yet been identified which provides direct confirmation of this hypothesis, the charter dated [1065/66] under which "dux et marchio Godefridus…uxoris mee Beatricis" confirmed the rights of the church of Verdun Sainte-Vanne was issued with the consent of "comitis Manasse" and is subscribed by "comitis Manasse et filii eius Rainaldi…"[309].  If Manassès Comte de Rethel was Duke Godefroi's son-in-law, this would provide an explanation for his involvement in this charter which is otherwise difficult to explain.  

Count Manassès [III] & his wife had [three] children: 

a)         [RENAUD (-after [1065/66]).  "Dux et marchio Godefridus…uxoris mee Beatricis" confirmed the rights of the church of Verdun Sainte-Vanne granted by "patre meo Gozelone", with the consent of "comitis Manasse", by charter dated [1065/66], subscribed by "comitis Manasse et filii eius Rainaldi, Hezelini comitis, comitis Arnulfi de Chisneio"[310].  It is not certain that "comitis Manasse" refers to Manassès [III] Comte de Rethel.  However, no other count of this name has so far been identified at the time.  In addition, his involvement in the grant in this charter tends to corroborate the hypothesis that he may have been the son-in-law of Godefroi "le Barbu" Duke of Lower Lotharingia (see above).  If that is correct, Renaud, presumably his parents' eldest son, probably died young soon after the date of this charter.] 

b)         HUGUES de Rethel ([1045/55]-28 Dec [1118]).  A charter dated 26 Sep 1081 records the restoration of privileges granted by “Manasses Regitestensis comes”, with the consent of “uxore Judiz et venerabili Hugone filio”, to the chapter of Braux[311].  His birth date range is estimated from the probable birth date range of his son Baudouin.  He succeeded his father in [1081] as Comte de Rethel

-        see below

c)         [--- .  Assuming that “nepote” in the charter quoted below can be interpreted in its strict sense of nephew, one of the parents of Héribert (presumably his mother) was the sibling of Comte Hugues.]  m ---.  One child: 

i)          HERIBERT (-after [1120]).  “Rainaldo castellano de Barcho, Heriberto nepote ipsius comitis...” subscribed the charter dated to [1120] under which “Leudo de Altomonte et uxor eius Hildiaris et filia eorum Pontia” donated “molendini...ad Berniacum in feodum de comite Hugone Registeste” to Saint-Denis[312]

 

 

HUGUES de Rethel, son of MANASSES [III] Comte de Rethel & his wife Judith --- ([1045/55]-28 Dec [1118]).  A charter dated 26 Sep 1081 records the restoration of privileges granted by “Manasses Regitestensis comes”, with the consent of “uxore Judiz et venerabili Hugone filio”, to the chapter of Braux[313].  His birth date range is estimated from the probable birth date range of his son Baudouin.  He succeeded his father in [1081] as Comte de Rethel.  A charter dated 1094 records absolution granted to "comitem Hugonem", with the consent of "filius eius comitis Manasses"[314].  “Hugo comes et Milesindis collateralis” donated mills “super Axonam fluvium ante Rettestum” to Laon Saint-Vincent, with the consent of “filio nostro Manasse”, by charter dated 1097[315].  "Registensium comes Hugo" donated property to "ecclesie…Marie de Noveyo" by charter dated 1117[316].  The necrology of Reims Saint-Rémi records the death "V Kal Jan" of "Hugo comes Regiteste"[317]

m (before 1075[318]) MELISENDE de Montlhéry, daughter of GUY "le Grand" Seigneur de Montlhéry & his wife Hodierne de Gometz-La Ferté.  The Historia of Monk Aimon names "Milonem de Brayo et Guidonem Rubeum, Comitissam quoque Reiteste, et Bonam-vecinam de Pontibus, Elizabeth etiam uxorem Joscelini de Corteciniaco, insuper dominam de Puisat, et dominam de S. Galerico" as the children of "Guidonem" and his wife[319].  She is named as wife of Hugues Comte de Rethel by William of Tyre, although he does not specify her origin[320].  In a later passage he records that the mother of Joscelin de Courtenay Count of Edessa was the sister of the mother of Baudouin de Bourg, later Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, according to the testimony of her granddaughter concerning the consanguinity between Amaury I King of Jerusalem and his first wife which provided the basis for the annulment of their marriage in 1162[321].  “Hugo comes et Milesindis collateralis” donated mills “super Axonam fluvium ante Rettestum” to Laon Saint-Vincent, with the consent of “filio nostro Manasse”, by charter dated 1097[322]

Comte Hugues & his wife had [seven] children: 

1.         MANASSES de Rethel (-before 1115).  A charter dated 1094 records absolution granted to "comitem Hugonem", with the consent of "filius eius comitis Manasses"[323].  William of Tyre names "Manasses" as younger brother of Baudouin who inherited Rethel from their father because his older brother was overseas but died childless[324].  It appears more likely that Manassès was the oldest brother, named after his paternal grandfather.  No evidence has been found in the primary sources so far consulted that he survived his father and succeeded as comte de Rethel, apart from the reference in William of Tyre who specifies that his brother Gervais, who had been elected archbishop of Reims, resigned in order to marry after the death of his brother[325].  “Hugo comes et Milesindis collateralis” donated mills “super Axonam fluvium ante Rettestum” to Laon Saint-Vincent, with the consent of “filio nostro Manasse”, by charter dated 1097[326].  A charter dated 1115 records absolution granted to "Manasses filius Hugonis comitis" and "eo…mortuo" to "Gervasius frater eiusdem"[327]

2.         GERVAIS de Rethel (-before 1124).  He is named as brother of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem by William of Tyre, specifying that he was later elected archbishop of Reims, but resigned after the death of his brother in order to marry, and had a single daughter[328]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1108 that the election of "Gervasii filii comitis Hugonis Reitestensis" was annulled and "Radulfum prepositum" ordained "in Remensem archiepiscopum"[329].  He succeeded his father as Comte de Rethel.  A charter dated 1115 records absolution granted to "Manasses filius Hugonis comitis" and "eo…mortuo" to "Gervasius frater eiusdem"[330]m ([1120/22]) as her first husband, ELISABETH de Namur, daughter of GODEFROY I Comte de Namur & his first wife Sibylle de Château-Porcien.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis" as wife of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" (recording that he resigned as archbishop of Reims and married), specifying that her mother was "Sibilla filia comitis Rogeri Porcensis", and recording her second marriage with "Clarembaldus de Roseto" and their children "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia que ex nobili viro Philippo de Altaripa genuit Mathildem quam habuit Windus Doiscenus [Doische, Namur, Philippeville?] et de Erpens [Erpent, Namur?]"[331].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two sisters of "Alidem…Godefridi comitis Namurcensis et Ermesendis comitisse filiam" as "una [uxor] dominus de Roseto, alia [uxor] domino de Spinoit", in a later passage clarifying that the two sisters were daughters of "Henrici comitis" by his first wife[332].  She married secondly (before 1129) Clarembaud Seigneur de Rozoy.  Comte Gervais & his wife had one child: 

a)         MELISENDE de Rethel ([1121/23]-after 1154).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that [her stepfather] "Clarenbaldus de Roseto" alienated the lands of “filiastram suam Gervasii filiam” and married her to "cuidam nobili Roberto Marmioni de Normannia", without giving her name[333].  The Complete Peerage names her “Elizabeth” and identifies her husband as Robert Marmion [IV] without citing any primary source on which it bases this statement[334].  From a chronological point of view, it is more likely that the husband of Gervais de Rethel’s daughter was Robert Marmion [III], considering especially that Robert [III]’s wife had three known children by her second husband whom she married after Robert died in [1143/44].  If that is correct, other sources confirm that Robert [III]’s wife was named Mélisende, not Elisabeth, presumably after her paternal grandmother.  A charter dated to [1200], recounting the history of a donation of land to Eynsham abbey, records that King [Henry I] granted “Stantonam [cum] quadam femina” to “Roberto Marmiun”, and that “post Robertum Marmiun” the king granted “predictam Milisent” to “Ricardo de Kamuilla[335].  Domesday Descendants refers to the second marriage of Mélisende, whom it calls “a kinswoman of Queen Adelicia[336].  The Victoria County History of Oxfordshire states that the queen “before 1141...gave to her kinswoman Millicent, wife of Robert Marmion, land in Stanton Harcourt and South Leigh...”, without citing the corresponding primary source[337].  White Kennett quotes the charter under which “A...regina” granted “manerium meum de Stanton” in four parts to Reading convent, to the Knights Templars, to “Milisendi cognatæ meæ uxori Roberti Marmium”, and to “Willielmo de Harestactu”, undated[338].  In light of the previous information, her second marriage is indicated by the charter dated 1154 under which Henry Duke of Normandy [the future King Henry II] confirmed Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire to "Milicenti uxori Ricardi de Camvilla in feodo et hereditate sibi…sicut regina Adelisia…in maritagium dedit" by charter dated 1154[339].  “Ricardus de Camvilla” donated “terciam partem decimarum...apud Hottoth” to Jumièges, for the souls of “uxoris mee Adelicie et sequentis uxoris mee Milesente...Rogeri fratris mei”, by charter dated [5 Apr 1170/27 Mar 1171], subscribed by “Ricardi filii mei...[340].  "Philippus de Marmiun filius et hæres Roberti le Marmiun" recalls the donation of “Buteyate” to Bardney made by “Robertus Marmiun…et Milesent uxor mea et Robertus filius meus” by charter dated Jun 1248[341]m firstly ROBERT Marmion [III], son of ROGER Marmion & his wife --- (-killed in battle [1143/44]).  m secondly (after [1143/44]) as his second wife, RICHARD [I] de Camville, son of --- de Camville & his wife [--- de Vere] (-Apulia 1176). 

3.         BAUDOUIN de Rethel ([1075/80]-Jerusalem 21 Aug 1131, bur Jerusalem, Church of the Holy Sepulchre).  The Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium names "Balduinus de Retexto castro, nepos Manassem comitis supra memorati" as one of the companions of "duo fratres, dux Godefridus et comes Balduinus" when leaving on crusade[342].  His birth date range is estimated assuming that he was an adolescent or young adult when he joined the First Crusade.  William of Tyre records him as "Balduinus cognominatus de Burgo, domini Hugonis comitis de Retest filius" and "consanguineus" of Godefroi Duke of Lotharingia and his brothers Baudouin and Eustache[343].  In a later passage, he names his mother and records that he was "primogenitus"[344], although the inheritance by his brothers of the paternal county seems to indicate that this is not correct, unless he was passed over by family agreement either because of his absence in Palestine or his superior position as Count of Edessa.  He was known as BAUDOUIN du Bourg.  Albert of Aix records that "Godefridus dux regni Lotharingiæ…fraterque eius uterinus Baldewinus, Warnerus de Greis cognatus ipsius Ducis, Baldewinus pariter de Burch, Reinhardus comes de Tul, Petrus…frater ipsius, Dodo de Cons, Henricus de Ascha ac frater illius Godefridus" left for Jerusalem in Aug 1096[345].  Albert of Aix records that "Cononem comitem de Monte Acuto, Baldwinum de Burch, Godefridum de Ascha" were sent by Godefroi de Bouillon for the first meeting with the emperor after the arrival of the crusading army in Constantinople, dated to end 1096[346].  He joined the crusading contingent of Godefroi IV Duke of Lower Lotharingia in Cilicia.  After completing his pilgrimage, he returned to Edessa to rejoin Baudouin I Count of Edessa [Boulogne].  When the latter succeeded his brother in 1100 as Baudouin I King of Jerusalem, he invested Baudouin du Bourg as BAUDOUIN II Count of Edessa.  Albert of Aix records that "Baldewinus dux civitatis Rohas" installed "Baldewino de Burg…sui generis, filio comitis Hugonis de Rortest" at Edessa on succeeding to the kingdom of Jerusalem, dated to 1100 from the context[347].  Albert of Aix records that Baudouin appointed "fratri Eustachio" as his successor on his deathbed if he would come to Jerusalem, or if he failed to come "Baldewinus de Burg"[348].  He succeeded in 1118 as BAUDOUIN II King of Jerusalem

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4.         MATHILDE de Rethel .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and records her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[349].  William of Tyre names "Mahaldam" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[350]m EUDES Châtelain de Vitry, son of --- (-[1158]).  Comte de Rethel from [1124]. 

5.         HODIERNE de Rethel .  William of Tyre names "Hodiernam" as second sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, and names her (first) husband and their son Manassès[351].  The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not yet been identified.  According to Fulcher of Chartres, the wife of Prince Roger committed adultery shamelessly with many other men[352]m firstly HERIBRAND [III] de Hierges Châtelain de Bouillon, son of HERIBRAND II de Hierges & his wife Hedwige d'Orchimont (-1114).  m secondly (1114 or after) ROGER de Hauteville Prince of Antioch, son of RICHARD Conte di Mottola, Castellaneta e Oria & his wife Altrude ([before 1085]-killed in battle Tel-Aqibrin 8 Jun 1119). 

6.         CECILE de Rethel (-after 1126).  "Cæcilia dominia Tarsi et soror regis Balduini II" donated property to the church of St Marie, Josaphat by charter dated 1126, with the agreement of Bohémond II Prince of Antioch[353]same person as…?  [--- de Rethel ([1085][354]-)Rüdt-Collenberg suggests that Cécile may have been the wife of Lewon of Armenia[355].  He bases this also on a passage in Orderic Vitalis which refers to Lewon as "fils de Turold des Montagnes [incorrect] et oncle de la femme de Boémond" (referring to Bohémond II Prince of Antioch)[356]Orderic Vitalis relied on contemporary crusader chroniclers for his narrative of events in the Levant.  However, the origin of this specific passage concerning Lewon's family has not been traced to the most likely sources, William of Tyre, Fulcher of Chartres or Baudry of Bourgeuil.  The wife of Prince Bohémond II was Alix, daughter of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, who had previously been count of Edessa and was the brother of Cécile (see above).  No relationship between Lewon and King Baudouin has been identified in Lewon's paternal ancestry, although the known details of Lewon's paternal family are so sparse that it is not impossible that such a relationship existed (maybe more remote than a strict interpretation of the word "oncle" would imply).  Rüdt-Collenberg suggests that the relationship was through Lewon's wife's family and that therefore she was the daughter of Hugues Comte de Rethel[357].  He also refers to her possible name as "Béatrice", but the source on which this is based is unclear from his notes[358].  Turning to the 1126 charter, Rüdt-Collenberg suggests that "Cæcilia dominia Tarsi et soror regis Balduini II" also refers to the wife of Lewon[359], although he does not explain the difference of name.  "Dominia Tarsi" certainly suggests a reference to the ruler of Cilician Armenia.  Armenian sources record that Lewon's brother Thoros was still "Lord of the Mountains" in 1126.  No direct evidence has been found that Thoros shared power with his younger brother Lewon.  The marriage of Thoros/Lewon to the sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem would have taken place in the early 1100s, assuming that it was a first marriage, when Baudouin was still count of Edessa.  It would probably have taken place before Baudouin's period of imprisonment from 1104 to 1107 which followed the battle of Harran.  It is clear from his own marriage that Baudouin followed a policy of rapprochement with his Armenian neighbours.  However, it is more likely that he would have contracted a marriage alliance with the older son of the ruler in Cilicia, Thoros, rather than his younger brother Lewon whose prospects must not have been good at the time.  So what of the other known sisters of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem?  As is shown above, William of Tyre names only two, "Mahaldam" (called Mathilde in other sources) and "Hodiernam"[360], although it is possible that there were more who were otherwise unrecorded.  Mathilde was still married to Eudes de Vitry in 1126 so can be excluded.  The younger sister Hodierna had lost her second husband Roger Prince of Antioch in 1118.  It is not impossible that she married again, either Lewon or his older brother Thoros, although the name change from Hodierna is difficult to explain.  If this is correct she must have been a later wife who, the chronology suggests, was unlikely to have been the mother of the known children of whichever brother she married.  This hypothesis could explain the consent given by Bohémond II Prince of Antioch to the 1126 donation as he would have been her previous husband's successor.  In conclusion, the evidence for the precise identification of Lewon's wife is uncertain and confused, although many secondary sources, such as Europäische Stammtafeln[361], show the Rethel marriage as definite without any sign of doubt.  m ([1101/04]) [as his first wife], LEWON of Armenia [Rupenid], son of KOSTANDIN Lord of Vaghka and Parzerpert & his wife --- (-Constantinople 14 Oct 1140).  He succeeded his nephew in 1129 as LEWON I Lord of the Mountains.] 

7.         [HAWISE .  The Hyde Register lists "Hatheuuisa soror regis Jerusalem", soon after the names of King Henry I and his first wife[362].  If this list can correctly dated to the first two decades of the 12th century, as the name of King Henry and his wife indicates, Hawise was presumably the sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem.] 

 

 

 

B.      COMTES de RETHEL, CHÂTELAINS de VITRY

 

 

1.         EUDES de Vitry (-[1158])Châtelain de Vitry.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" when recording his marriage[363].  No other source has been identified which names Eudes in this capacity or identifies his parentage.  Comte de Rethel from [1124], de iure uxorism MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES [I] Comte de Rethel & his wife Melisende de Monthlery.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[364].  William of Tyre records "Mabalda" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[365]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "castellanam de Victereio" as daughter of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[366].  She succeeded as Ctss de Rethel.  Eudes & his wife had four children: 

a)         ITHIER de Rethel (-1171)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis Witeri de Retest" as son of "castellanam de Victereio [filiam Hugonem comitem de Retest]"[367]Comte de Rethel.  Châtelain de Vitry. 

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b)         --- de Rethel .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "comes Guitherus, pater regine Beatricis" had four sisters, the one mentioned first being wife of "Stephano Straboni de Novocastello super Axonam" by whom she had many children[368]m ETIENNE Strabo de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne [Picardie], son of ---.  1154. 

c)         --- de Rethel .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "comes Guitherus, pater regine Beatricis" had four sisters, the one mentioned second being mother of "Hugonem, Balduinum et matrem illorum de Hamalmont", specifying that "Hugo primogenitus" was father of "Reinaldum de Iuncherio, patrem Lucie, qui fuit mater Isabelle castellane Barri"[369]m --- de Henalmont, son of ---. 

d)         YVETTE de Rethel .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "comes Guitherus, pater regine Beatricis" had four sisters, the one mentioned third being "Yvecta" wife of "Miloni" by whom she was mother of "Odonem Pesel", and secondly of "Villano de Arzilliis" by whom she was mother of "Adelinam matrem Odoardi Marscalci [et] quatuor sorores"[370]m firstly MILO, son of ---.  m secondly VILLAIN d'Arzillières, son of ---.   

 

 

ITHIER de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1171).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "castellanum Guitherum" as son of "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" & his wife Mathilde, specifying that he succeeded his mother as Comte de Rethel[371]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis Witeri de Retest" as son of "castellanam de Victereio [filiam Hugonem comitem de Retest]"[372].  "…Guitterius sororius regis…" subscribed the charter dated Mar 1128 under which "Balduinus…rex Iherusalem Latinorum secundus" granted privileges to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem[373], although "sororius" is presumably an error for "nepos".  Comte de Rethel.  A charter dated 1127 records the absolution of "Guiterus comes Registensis" who had been excommunicated by Renaud Archbishop of Reims because of his actions against church property[374].  Châtelain de Vitry.  "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[375].  "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[376].  "H comes Regitestensis et M uxor mea…et filii sui M…B et G" donated property to "Silve Majoris", confirmed by "Alexander episcopus" by charter dated 22 Jun, dated to 1168 or 1169[377].  This charter is difficult to explain satisfactorily.  Assuming that the year is correct (not specified in the charter, presumably dated to the bishop), "H" should have been "I" Comte de Rethel.  However, if that is correct, "M uxor mea" should have been "B".  The names of the first two sons could have been Manassès and Baudouin, consistent with the donor being Ithier, but no other primary source has been identified which names a third son "G".  “Iterius...comes Registensis cum uxore et filiis ac nepotibus” donated serfs to the prior of Mont Dieu by undated charter[378]

m BEATRIX de Namur, daughter of GODEFROI I Comte de Namur & his second wife Ermesinde de Luxembourg ([1115/16]-1160).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[379].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[380].  "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[381].  "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[382]

Ithier & his wife had eleven children: 

1.         BEATRIX de Rethel ([1130/32]-30 Mar 1185).  The Annals of Romoald name "Beatricem filiam comitis de Reteste" as the third wife of "rex Rogerius"[383].  The Chronicle of Romualdo Guarna names "Beatricem filiam comitis de Reteste" as the third wife of King Roger and mother of "filiam…Constantiam"[384]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that one daughter married "Rogerus rex Sicilie"[385].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the first daughter "regina Sicilie Beatrix"[386].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "rex Sicilie Rogerus" married one as his second wife[387]m (1151) as his third wife, ROGER II King of Sicily, son of ROGER I Count of Sicily & his third wife Adelaida de Savona [Monferrato] ([22 Dec 1095][388]-Palermo 26 Feb 1154, bur Palermo Cathedral). 

2.         JEAN de Rethel (-after 1144).  "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[389]

3.         MANASSES de Rethel (-after 1144).  "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[390].  As their brother Hugues is not named in this charter, it is reasonable to assume that Jean and Manassès were older brothers who died young. 

4.         HUGUES de Rethel (-after 1166).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest"[391].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, specifying that Hugues and Baudouin died childless[392].  "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[393].  Monk at Reims 1160.  "Hugo comes destinatus post patrem meum Regiteste", on his deathbed, donated to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "pater meus Witerus et frater meus Manasses, post me natus qui mihi successit in comitatus honorem, et dominus Albertus clericus et canonicus, Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1166[394]

5.         MANASSES [IV] de Rethel (-1198)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest"[395]Comte de Rethel

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6.         HENRI de Rethel (-[1191]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife[396]Châtelain de Vitry

-        CHÂTELAINS de VITRY

7.         BAUDOUIN de Rethel (-1198 or after).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, specifying that Hugues and Baudouin died childless[397].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Manasserum comitem Retensem, Henricum et Balduinem milites et Albertum clericum, Leodiensis…prepositum et archidiaconum" as the four sons of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]"[398].  "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[399].  "Hugo comes destinatus post patrem meum Regiteste", on his deathbed, donated to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "pater meus Witerus et frater meus Manasses, post me natus qui mihi successit in comitatus honorem, et dominus Albertus clericus et canonicus, Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1166[400].  “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[401].  Seigneur de Chemery.  "Manasses comes de Rethet" granted "Burcum castellum meum" as dowry to "Felicitati filie domini Symonis de Bello Forti" for "filio meo" by charter dated to [1191], witnessed by "Castellanus frater meus et Balduinus frater meus…"[402].  "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[403]

8.         ALBERT de Rethel (-1213 or after).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Manasserum comitem Retensem, Henricum et Balduinem milites et Albertum clericum, Leodiensis…prepositum et archidiaconum" as the four sons of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]"[404].  "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[405].  "Hugo comes destinatus post patrem meum Regiteste", on his deathbed, donated to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "pater meus Witerus et frater meus Manasses, post me natus qui mihi successit in comitatus honorem, et dominus Albertus clericus et canonicus, Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1166[406].  “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[407].  Archdeacon at Liège. 

9.         SIMON de Rethel .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.  1176. 

10.      CLEMENCE de Rethel (-after 1190)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[408].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcope Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[409]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[410].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[411].  The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[412].  “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[413].  “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[414]m HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”], son of --- (-[1188/90]). 

11.      daughter . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, specifying that the second daughter was mother of "Hugonis vicedomini Cathalaunensis"[415]m GEOFFROY Vidame de Châlons, son of ---. 

 

 

MANASSES [IV] de Rethel, son of ITHIER de Vitry Comte de Rethel & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-1198)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest"[416].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife[417].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Manasserum comitem Retensem, Henricum et Balduinem milites et Albertum clericum, Leodiensis…prepositum et archidiaconum" as the four sons of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]"[418]Comte de Rethel.  "Hugo comes destinatus post patrem meum Regiteste", on his deathbed, donated to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "pater meus Witerus et frater meus Manasses, post me natus qui mihi successit in comitatus honorem, et dominus Albertus clericus et canonicus, Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1166[419].  “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[420].  "Manasses comes de Rethet" granted "Burcum castellum meum" as dowry to "Felicitati filie domini Symonis de Bello Forti" for "filio meo" by charter dated to [1191], witnessed by "Castellanus frater meus et Balduinus frater meus…"[421].  "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[422].  “Manasses comes Regitensis et Hugo unicus filius meus” reached agreement with the abbot of Saint-Denis de Reims concerning “molendinis Castellarii super Rotanam et Pontoliam constructis” by charter dated 1196[423].  “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[424]

m (before [1174]) MATHILDE, daughter of KONRAD Wildgraf und Graf von Kyburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after 1221).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[425].  “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[426].  "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[427].  “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[428]

Manassès [IV] & his wife had one child: 

1.         HUGUES [II] (-[26 May 1227/Feb 1228], bur Abbaye d'Elan).  “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[429].  "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[430].  “Manasses comes Regitensis et Hugo unicus filius meus” reached agreement with the abbot of Saint-Denis de Reims concerning “molendinis Castellarii super Rotanam et Pontoliam constructis” by charter dated 1196[431].  “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[432]Comte de Rethel.  “Hugo Regitestensis comes” exchanged property with Saint-Pierre de Mézières “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[433].  “Hugo Registestis comes” granted rights to “burgensibus meis apud Novam Villam que est juxta Maires”, with the consent of “uxor mea Felicitas et filius meus Hugo”, by charter dated Nov 1200[434].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1228 of "comes Hugo Reitestensis" and his burial "apud Eslantium abbatiam"[435]m (1186) FELICITE de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, daughter of SIMON de Broyes Seigneur de Beaufort & his wife Agnes de Joigny Dame de Ramerupt (-[Feb/Mar] 1244, bur Abbaye d'Elan).  "Hugo Registensis comes" noted a donation to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated [1189] in which he names "viro Symone domino Bellifortis…et Felicitas uxor mea"[436].  The parentage of Félicité is confirmed by an earlier document in the same cartulary dated 1182 in which "Symon dominus Bellifortis" names "Felicitate filia mea"[437].  "Manasses comes de Rethet" granted "Burcum castellum meum" as dowry to "Felicitati filie domini Symonis de Bello Forti" for "filio meo" by charter dated to [1191], witnessed by "Castellanus frater meus et Balduinus frater meus…"[438].  "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[439].  "Felicitas domina Belli Fortis, dicta comitissa Registensis" granted rights in "villa de Charchericourt" to "filio meo domino Galchero, Leodicensi archidiacono", by charter dated Jan 1230[440].  "Felicitas domina Bellifortis, dicta comitissa Registensis" made a donation to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated Jul 1243[441].  A charter dated Feb 1244 records an agreement between "Jean comte de Rethel" and "Gaucher son frère" concerning the inheritance of "la fille de feu Hugues comte de Rethel" and of "la mère dudit Gaucher"[442].  Hugues [II] & his wife had [thirteen] children: 

a)         HUGUES [III] (-[May 1242/Jun 1243]).  “Hugo Registestis comes” granted rights to “burgensibus meis apud Novam Villam que est juxta Maires”, with the consent of “uxor mea Felicitas et filius meus Hugo”, by charter dated Nov 1200[443]"Hugo primogenitus domini comitis de Retiest, castellanus Yprensis et de Balluel et dominus de Fenaing, et uxor mea Mabilia" reached agreement with the church of Beaurepaire over the marshes of Beaurepaire and Fenaing by charter dated 1219[444]Châtelain d’Ypres et de Bailleul.  “Hugo de Retest castellanus et...Mabilia uxor eius castellana de Ypra et de Baliuel” approved the sale of property to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Sigerus de Curtraco, filius Walteri Nepotis, et Clariscia uxor eius” by charter dated Jun 1223[445]Comte de Rethel 1228.  "Hugues comte de Rethel" granted property to "Aubri de Mohon", with the consent of "Mabille sa femme", by charter dated Sep 1229[446]Hugues comte de Rethel et sa femme Mabille comtesse de Rethel châtelaine d’Ypres et de Bailleul” renounced rights over a mill at Briel in favour of the aldermen of Ypres by charter dated Sep 1235[447]"Hugues comte de Rethel" guaranteed rights to "Manassès son frère" in "territorio de Salcia, inter Morandi metam et Bellainval…", by charter dated Mar 1236[448].  "Hugues comte de Rethel" guaranteed rights to "son frère Jean de Rethel seigneur de Saint-Hylier" in various properties by charter dated Apr 1237[449].  “Hues cuens de Retel” notified that “Jehans mes freires sires dou Chateleir” was the vassal of “Thiebaut de Bar lou fil lou conte Henri et de sa meire Phelpe contesse de Bar” for “lou molin de Barigneicort” by charter dated 9 Sep 1240[450]m firstly (before Oct 1219) as her second husband, MABILE, widow of ADAM [II] de Wallincourt, daughter of --- [Châtelain d’Ypres] & his wife Agnes Dame de Bailleul ([before 1195]-after Sep 1235).  Châtelaine d’Ypres, Dame de Bailleul.  "Mabilia castellana de Ypra et de Balliolo filia domine Agnetis bone memorie, condam domine de eodem Balliolo" donated property to "Henrico, filio Roberti de Hermecort", with the consent of "mariti mei Hugonis filii comitis de Retiest", by charter dated Oct 1219[451]"Hugo primogenitus domini comitis de Retiest, castellanus Yprensis et de Balluel et dominus de Fenaing, et uxor mea Mabilia" reached agreement with the church of Beaurepaire over the marshes of Beaurepaire and Fenaing by charter dated 1219[452]Hugo de Retest castellanus et...Mabilia uxor eius castellana de Ypra et de Baliuel” approved the sale of property to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Sigerus de Curtraco, filius Walteri Nepotis, et Clariscia uxor eius” by charter dated Jun 1223[453].  "Hugues comte de Rethel" granted property to "Aubri de Mohon", with the consent of "Mabille sa femme", by charter dated Sep 1229[454]Hugues comte de Rethel et sa femme Mabille comtesse de Rethel châtelaine d’Ypres et de Bailleul” renounced rights over a mill at Briel in favour of the aldermen of Ypres by charter dated Sep 1235[455]m secondly (contract 15 May 1239) as her first husband, JEANNE de Dampierre, daughter of GUILLAUME [II] Seigneur de Dampierre & his wife Marguerite II Ctss of Flanders and Hainaut (-[1245/46], bur Abbaye de Sainte Hoïlde).  “Marguerite dame de Dampierre” and “Huon conte de Retest” agreed the marriage of the latter and “damoisiele Jehane ma fille”, with details of the dowry, by charter dated Nov 1239[456].  She married secondly (betrothed 3 May 1243, [Mar/Jul] 1245) as his first wife, Thibaut [II] Comte de Bar.  A charter dated Jul 1245 records an agreement between "Thibaud comte de Bar" and "Jean comte de Rethel" concerning the dowry of "Jeanne veuve de Hugues comte de Rethel" who had married the former[457].  Hugues [III] & his first wife had one child: 

i)          JEAN ([1222/23]-before Nov 1238).  The marriage contract of "Jean fils ainé de Hugues comte de Rethel" and "Arnoul d’Oudenarde chevalier…sa fille Marotte" is dated 12 Jun 1225, and provides for the marriage when Jean reached 12 years old[458].  The fact that Marguerite, successor of Mabile Châtelaine d’Ypres et Dame de Bailleul (first wife of Hugues [III] Comte de Rethel) was recorded as Châtelaine d’Ypres in Nov 1238 suggests that Jean must have died before that date otherwise he would have inherited the titles.  m (betrothed 12 Jun 1225, before Nov 1235) as her first husband, MARIE van Oudenaarde, daughter of ARNOLD [IV] Heer van Oudenaarde & his wife Alix de Rosoy (-1277 or after).  The marriage contract of "Jean fils ainé de Hugues comte de Rethel" and "Arnoul d’Oudenarde chevalier…sa fille Marotte" is dated 12 Jun 1225, and provides for the marriage when Jean reached 12 years old[459].  "Arnouls dis sires d’Oudenarde et Aelis" his wife granted revenue to "Jean de Rethel" on his marriage to "leur fille Marie", by charter dated Nov 1235[460].  Dame de Baucigny et de Montcornet.  Vrouw van Pamele.  She married secondly (before 7 Aug 1243) Godefroi de Brabant Heer van Gaesbeek.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "domino Godefrido de Lovanio, fratri ducis Brabantiæ Henrici" married "soror…domini Joannis de Audenarde"[461].  A charter dated Jun 1246 records an agreement between "Jehan conte de Rethest" and "Godefroy de Louvain et Marie de Audenarde sa femme" concerning "Pertes et Tannion" which were her dower when she married "Jehan le fil le conte Huon de Rethest"[462]

Hugues [III] & his [first/second] wife had [two] children: 

ii)         FELICITE (-before Jul 1248).  “Jehans quens de Retest” granted revenue to “ma...sereur Agnes dame de Sillenai”, including part “que je li devoie aseoir pour l’eschaoite de Felicitas qui fut fille le conte Huon mon frere, qui jadis fu cuens de Retest”, by charter dated Jul 1248[463].  

iii)        [daughter (-[before Feb 1244]).  A charter dated Feb 1244 records an agreement between "Jean comte de Rethel" and "Gaucher son frère" concerning the inheritance of "la fille de feu Hugues comte de Rethel" and of "la mère dudit Gaucher"[464].  The wording of this translated extract suggests that the daughter in question was the only daughter of Comte Hugues.  If that is correct, it is likely that she was the same person as the daughter named Félicité above.  It is not entirely clear from the wording of this document whether the daughter had died before it was written, although the following charter suggests that this may have been the case: "Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins et Mahaud sa femme" transferred their rights in "l’héritage de leur niece, la fille du comte Hugues" to "leur frère Jean comte de Rethel"[465].] 

b)         JEAN (-[2 Apr/15 Jul] 1251)"Hues cuens de Rethel" acknowledged that "Jehans mes freires, sires dou Chateleir" was vassal of "Thiebaut de Bar lou fil loi conte Henri et de sa meire Phelpe" for "lou moulin de Barigneicourt" by charter dated 9 Sep 1240[466]Seigneur de Chémery.  “Dominus Johannes de Chimereyo frater domini Hugonis comitis Registestensis” granted pasturage and other rights to Mont Dieu abbey, with the consent of “uxoris mee”, by charter dated Apr 1232[467].  Seigneur de Saint-Hilaire.  “Hugo Regitestensis comes” granted property to “fratri meo Johanni de Retest domino de Sancto Hilerio” by charter dated Apr 1237[468]Comte de Rethel 1243.  “Jehans cuens de Retel” swore homage to “mon cousin” Mathieu II Duke of Lorraine for “mon chastel Chastiaul Renaut”, except for obligations to “le conte de Champaingne et de Brie palatin, l’archeveske de Rains et l’abbé de Saint Remi de Rains”, by charter dated 14 Dec 1244[469].  A charter dated 15 Jul 1251 records an agreement between "Gaucher de Rethel sire de Raucourt" and "Manassès de Rethel sire du Châtelier" concerning the inheritance "du comte Jean de Rethel"[470]m firstly (before Apr 1232) AGNES de Chiny, daughter of LOUIS [IV] Comte de Chiny & his wife Mathilde d'Avesnes (-before 1235).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "secunda filia comitis de Chini et Machtildis filiæ Jacobi Avesnensis" was "domina de Agimont et de Givet" and married "domino Joanni de Retest, Hugonis in comitatu successori" by whom she had one daughter who died young[471].  “Ludovicus comes de Chisnei” reached agreement with Orval concerning “prato ante Yvodium”, with the consent of “uxor mea Mathildis...cum filiabus meis Johenne et Agnes”, by charter dated Jul 1212[472].  “Dominus Johannes de Chimereyo frater domini Hugonis comitis Registestensis” granted pasturage and other rights to Mont Dieu abbey, with the consent of “uxoris mee”, by charter dated Apr 1232[473]Dame d'Agimont et de Givet.  m secondly (contract 7 Feb 1243) as her second husband, MARIE de Thourotte, widow of JEAN de la Tournelle, daughter of JEAN de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife --- (-[1253/Mar 1256]).  The marriage contract between "Jean de Rethel" and "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Tourotte…sa fille Marie, veuve de Jean de la Tournelle" is dated 7 Feb 1243[474].  “Marie comitisse Regitestensi” relinquished “Castellare”, granted to her by “Johanne marito eius nunc comite Registensi...in dotem”, in favour of “domino Manassero militi fratri dicti J. comitis” by charter dated 5 Nov 1243[475].  The following document shows the couple’s marital difficulties: Pope Innocent IV communicated a complaint to the comte de Champagne from "[Jean] comte de Rethel" against “Jean de Thourotte bailli dudit Th. de Champagne” for the dissolution of his marriage to “Marie fille dudit Jean de Thourotte”, claiming that the latter had captured “[le] château de Beaufort [Montmorency], qui appartient au comte de Rethel”, by charter dated 1 Oct 1249[476].  "Marie dite comtesse de Rethel et dame d’Omont, veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" confirmed that "Gaucher comte de Rethel" recognised her dower rights in "le château d’Omont" by charter dated Oct 1251[477].  "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[478].  Jean & his first wife had one child: 

i)          daughter (-young).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "secunda filia comitis de Chini et Machtildis filiæ Jacobi Avesnensis" was "domina de Agimont et de Givet" and married "domino Joanni de Retest, Hugonis in comitatu successori" by whom she had one daughter who died young[479]

c)         BEATRIX .  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated May 1218 under which “Hugo Regitestensis comes” granted property to “uxori mee Felicitati” in exchange for property which she had given to “Andree de Nantolio in matrimonio filie sue et mee Beatricis[480]m (before May 1218) ANDRE de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, son of [GAUCHER de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Helvide dame de Nanteuil-la-Fosse] (-after 1219). 

d)         CATHERINE (-after Feb 1228).  “Felicitas Regitestensis comitissa” granted annual revenue from vines “apud Buingnicourt” to “Katerine...filie mee”, with the consent of “Hugonis primogeniti filii mei”, by charter dated Sep 1221[481].  Nun at Avenay.  “Felicitas comitissa Regitestensis” granted annual revenue from “winagio meo de Buignicort” to “filie mee Katerine sanctimoniali de Avenaio”, with the consent of “Hugonis primogeniti mei”, by charter dated Feb 1227 (O.S.)[482]

e)         HELISENDE (-before 1234).  "Hugues comte de Rethel" granted "les domaines de Perthes et de Tagnon", property of "la mère dudit Hugues", to "sa fille Helissend comtesse de Perche" by charter dated Aug 1218[483].  Dame de Perthes et de Tagnon.  "Willelmus Cathalaunensis episcopus et comes Pertici" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe for the souls of "quondam memorandi…Galfridus comes Pertici frater nostrer…Thomas quondam comitem Pertici nepotem nostrum" with the consent of "Helisendis tunc temporis comitissa Pertici" by charter dated 1220[484]According to Europäische Stammtafeln[485], the first wife of Erard de Brienne Seigneur de Ramerupt was Helisende Ctss du Perche.  The only contemporary of this name was Helisende de Rethel, wife of Thomas Comte du Perche.  However, the death of the latter is recorded in 1217.  No earlier marriage of his wife has been found, and in any case if she had married Erard de Brienne as her first husband she could not then have been described as "Ctss du Perche".  Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 27 Jan 1226 which refers to property owned by “Garnerio de Triangulo domino Marigniaci et Helissendi eius uxori Perticensi comitissæ[486].  “Garnerus de Triangulo dominus de Marigniaco et...Helissendis comitissa Perticensis et uxor eiusdem Garneri” transferred their rights in “Pertes et Tanion”, granted to her by her parents on her marriage to “comite Perticensi”, back to her father by charter dated Nov 1226[487]m firstly THOMAS Comte de Perche, son of GEOFFROY Comte de Perche & his second wife Mathilde of Saxony (-1217).  m secondly (before Jun 1225) GARNIER [IV] de Traînel Seigneur de Martigny, son of --- (-before Sep 1255). 

f)          MATHILDE (-[1 Jul 1259/19 Jun 1268]).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated Dec 1224 under which "Thomas de Coucy seigneur de Vervins" acknowledged "Hugues comte de Rethel et Félicité sa femme" had granted property at Sézanne to "leur fille Mathilde, femme dudit Thomas", with the consent of "Hugues leur fils ainé"[488].  Dame de Trie-le-Bardoul et de Charmentré.  "Thomas de Cociaco Vervini dominus" granted "homines de Tria et de Charmentrei" rights "super…terra quæ ex parte Mathildis uxoris meæ de dono Hugonis comitis Regetensis ad me devenit" by charter dated Dec 1212[489].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini et Mathildis uxor eius” issued a charter dated Sep 1223 under the guarantee of “domini sui Theobaldi, Campaniæ et Briæ comitis palatini[490].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” acknowledged that “dominus meus Hugo Regitestensis comes ac domina mea uxor eius Felicitas, de assensu Hugonis primogeniti eorundem” had granted “vineas, domos...apud Sezannam” to “Mathildi uxori mee filie eorundem” by charter dated Dec 1224[491].  "Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins et Mahaud sa femme" transferred their rights in "l’héritage de leur niece, la fille du comte Hugues" to "leur frère Jean comte de Rethel"[492].  "Mahaud dame de Vervins et Thomas de Coucy son fils sire de Vervins" donated "Montigny dalès Poys" to "Gaucher comte de Rethel" by charter dated Oct 1255[493]m (before Dec 1224) THOMAS de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-[1252/53]). 

g)         GAUCHER (-[17 Aug 1262/1 Nov 1263]).  "Felicitas domina Belli Fortis, dicta comitissa Registensis" granted rights in "villa de Charchericourt" to "filio meo domino Galchero, Leodicensi archidiacono", by charter dated Jan 1230[494].  Archdeacon at Liège 1230.  Canon at Reims 1246.  Comte de Rethel 1251.  A charter dated 15 Jul 1251 records an agreement between "Gaucher de Rethel sire de Raucourt" and "Manassès de Rethel sire du Châtelier" concerning the inheritance "du comte Jean de Rethel"[495]

h)         SIMON (-after 1233).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.   Archdeacon at Liège. 

i)          AGNES (-after 1 Mar 1254).  “Jehans quens de Retest” granted revenue to “ma...sereur Agnes dame de Sillenai”, including part “que je li devoie aseoir pour l’eschaoite de Felicitas qui fut fille le conte Huon mon frere, qui jadis fu cuens de Retest”, by charter dated Jul 1248[496].  "Agnès dame de Seignelay" relinquished her rights in the succession "du comte Jean" to "Gaucher comte de Rethel son frère" in return for an income, by charter dated Oct 1253, confirmed by charter dated 1 Mar 1254[497].  Dame de Seignelay.  m ETIENNE de Seignelay, son of ---. 

j)          MANASSES [IV] (-[26 Jun 1271/3 Mar 1274]).  “Manasserus miles, frater comitis Registestensis” recognised his obligations to “domino suo Theobaldo Navarræ regi, Campaniæ et Bræ comiti palatino” for the lands inherited from his mother, by charter dated Jul 1234[498].  "Hugues comte de Rethel" guaranteed rights to "Manassès son frère" in "territorio de Salcia, inter Morandi metam et Bellainval…", by charter dated Mar 1236[499].  Seigneur de Saulce-au-Bois.  “Manasserus dominus de Salcia in Bosco” granted rights to the inhabitants of Sevricourt and Bertincourt, with the consent of “uxoris mee Elysabeth”, by charter dated Dec 1237 which refers to the possibility of “dominus filium suum” being knighted and “filiam suam” marrying[500].  Seigneur du Chastelet: “Marie comitisse Regitestensi” relinquished “Castellare”, granted to her by “Johanne marito eius nunc comite Registensi...in dotem”, in favour of “domino Manassero militi fratri dicti J. comitis” by charter dated 5 Nov 1243[501].  A charter dated 15 Jul 1251 records an agreement between "Gaucher de Rethel sire de Raucourt" and "Manassès de Rethel sire du Châtelier" concerning the inheritance "du comte Jean de Rethel"[502].  Seigneur du Bourq 1253.  Seigneur de Mézières 1257.  Comte de Rethel 1263.  m (before [1233]) ISABELLE, daughter of --- (-after 1274).  “Manasserus dominus de Salcia in Bosco” granted rights to the inhabitants of Sevricourt and Bertincourt, with the consent of “uxoris mee Elysabeth”, by charter dated Dec 1237 which refers to the possibility of “dominus filium suum” being knighted and “filiam suam” marrying[503].  "Isabelle femme de Manassès de Rethel" approved an exchange of property by her husband by charter dated 22 Mar 1256[504].  Manassès [IV] & his wife had four children: 

i)          HUGUES [IV] (-[8 Oct 1275/1277])Comte de Rethel.  "Marie dame d’Enghien fille de Manassès comte de Rethel et d’Isabeau, veuve de Gautier seigneur d’Enghien" reached agreement with "son frère Hugues comte de Rethel" concerning her dowry by charter dated 3 Mar 1274[505].  [m firstly AGNES de Chiny Dame d’Agimont et de Givet, daughter of LOUIS [II] Comte de Chiny & his wife --- (-after 1253).  Her parentage and marriage are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[506].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  It should be noted that Agnes de Chiny, dame d’Agimont et de Givet, daughter of Louis [IV] Comte de Chiny married Jean de Rethel (cousin of Hugues [IV], see above).  “Louis [II] Comte de Chiny” has not otherwise been identified.  It is possible that there is confusion with the wife of Jean.]  [m secondly (before 1270) as her second husband, MARIE d’Enghien Dame de Thieusis, widow of JEAN Comte de Brienne, daughter of SOHIER d’Enghien Seigneur d’Enghien & his wife Alix van Zotteghem (-before 1275).  Her parentage and two marriages are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[507].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.]  m [thirdly] (before 8 Oct 1275) as her first husband, ISABELLE de Grandpré, daughter of HENRI [V] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Isabelle de Brienne (-before 4 Apr 1292).  She married secondly (before 1277) Nicolas de Charbogne, who adopted the title Comte de Rethel.  “Dominus Nicholaus dominus de Cherbogne comes Regitestensis et domina Ysabella comitissa Regitestensis eius uxor” sold revenue “de Maceriis” to “Johanni dicto La Pance civi Remensi” by charter dated Feb 1280[508].  Hugues [IV] & his [first wife had one child]: 

(a)       [daughter (-young).  Her parentage is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[509].  The primary source on which this information is based has not been identified.  There may be confusion with the daughter of Jean Comte de Rethel by his first wife (see above).] 

Hugues [IV] & his third wife had one child: 

(b)       JEANNE (-after 12 Mar 1328)Ctss de Rethel.  “Jehanne contesse de Retest” granted land “en...Maisieres” to “Huechon Tranchant” by charter dated Sep 1287[510].  The Continuation of the Chronicle of Jean de Saint-Victor specifies that the wife of "le conte de Nevers" returned "à son hyretage de Retest" after the death of her husband and received half the county of Nevers as her dower[511]m (Dec 1290) LOUIS de Flandre Comte de Nevers, son of ROBERT III "de Béthune" Count of Flanders & his second wife Yolande de Bourgogne [Capet] Ctss de Nevers (-Paris 24 Jul 1322, bur Paris, Frères Mineurs).  He succeeded in 1290 as Comte de Rethel, by right of his wife. 

ii)         GUYOT (-before 8 Oct 1275). 

iii)        FELICITE (-after Apr 1257).  The marriage contract between "Jean de Tourotte le jeune chevalier" and "Manassès de Rethel…sa fille Félicité" is dated 15 Oct 1252[512].  A charter dated Apr 1257 records an agreement between "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Torotte" and "Félicité dame de Beaufort veuve du fils dudit Jean" concerning her renunciation of claims to his property and that of "de feu Agnès sa femme"[513]m (contract 15 Oct 1252) JEAN de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort, son of JEAN [III] de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife Agnes --- (-[Jun 1253/Apr 1257]).  "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[514]

iv)       MARIE (-Mar 1316).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Walterus…de Enghien" married thirdly "filiam comitis Reistensis Manasserii Mariam"[515].  Dame de Machaut, de Tricot et de Béthincourt.  "Marie dame d’Enghien fille de Manassès comte de Rethel et d’Isabeau, veuve de Gautier seigneur d’Enghien" reached agreement with "son frère Hugues comte de Rethel" concerning her dowry by charter dated 3 Mar 1274[516]m (1266) as his third wife, GAUTHIER [I] Seigneur d'Enghien, son of SOHIER Seigneur d’Enghien & his wife Alix van Zotteghem (-[9 May] 1271). 

k)         [daughter .  The identity of the parents of Helvis is uncertain.  It is not even clear whether it was her mother or her father who was the sibling of Manassès de Rethel, although there is no record of one of Manassès’s older brothers having any surviving children.  m ---.  One child:] 

i)          HELVIS (-after Apr 1252).  “Helviz dame de Harbingnis” agreed the partition of “Dammelier” with “mon oncle monsignor Mannessier de Retest signor de Chasteleir” by charter dated Apr 1252[517].  Dame de Herbigny. 

l)          [daughter .  The identity of the parents of Agnes is uncertain.  It is assumed that her mother was the sister of Gaucher Comte de Rethel, although this is not beyond all doubt.  If it is correct, she may have been one of the other daughters of Comte Hugues [II] who are named above, except for Mathilde whose daughter Agnes is recorded as married at the estimated date of the charter.  m ---.  One child:] 

i)          AGNES (-after [1260]).  Dame de Resson.  “Jehans kuens de Rettest” appointed arbitrators to decide a dispute between “Bauduin archidiacre de Chaalons et signor d’Autri” and “Agnes dame de Resson ma...niece” by charter dated 20 Oct 1248[518].  “Nicholas sires de Rumingni” and “Gauchier conte de Retest” agreed the marriage of “Jaquemins mes fius” and “Agneis damme de Reson niece au devant dit Gauchier” by charter dated 18 Sep 1253[519].  "Madame Agnès dame de Besson et avoueresse de Doucheri" notified "son oncle mons. Gauchier conte de Rethest" that "Roberts de Coucy" had returned "la disme de Doul" to his fief at the request of "mons. mon mari Jaqueme de Rumegni", by charter dated to [1260][520]m (contract 18 Sep 1253) JACQUES de Rumigny, son of NICOLAS de Rumigny & his wife --- (-after 1297). 

m)       [son (-[before 1251]).  The identity of the parent of Jean Seigneur d’Espance is uncertain.  The only sons of Hugues [II] Comte de Rethel who are named in the primary sources so far consulted during the preparation of the present document are those who are named above.  If the relationship with Rethel was through his father, the latter would presumably have been a son who was younger than Gaucher, as there appears to be no reference to his claiming the succession to the county.  This leaves Manassès or an otherwise unrecorded younger brother.  The charter dated Jan 1275, quoted below, suggests that Jean’s father could not have been Manassès, otherwise he would have succeeded as comte de Rethel by that date.  Another possibility is that Jean was the illegitimate son of one of the sons of Hugues [II].  m [--- de Dampierre, daughter of ANSEAU [I] de Dampierre Seigneur d’Espense & his wife Félicité de Cirey et d’Espense.  She is shown in Europaische Stammtafeln as the possible first wife of Manassès [IV] Comte de Rethel[521].  It is assumed that the connection is speculative, based on the assumption that Jean Seigneur d’Espance was the son of Manassès.  However, as pointed out above, the charter dated Jan 1275 which is quoted below appears to exclude this possibility.  Another possibility is that her husband was another otherwise unrecorded son of Hugues [II] Comte de Rethel.  Her family connection with Dampierre (presumably Dampierre-en-Astenois, although this has not yet been confirmed) is confirmed by the charter dated Jan 1275 under which "Jean sire de Dampierre chevalier, cousin de Jean d’Espances" declared that "Mahaud de Bretigny" had no rights in the property which her husband had sold to "Hugues comte de Rethel"[522].]  One child: 

i)          JEAN (-after Jan 1275).  “Jehans chevaliers sires d’Espance” exchanged rights over “Ateingny”, granted to him by “mes...oncles Jehans jadis cuens de Rettest”, with “mes...oncles Gauchiers cuens de Rettest” for rights “à Maisieres” by charter dated Jul 1253[523].  Seigneur d’Espance.  "Jean chevalier sire d’Espances" transferred his rights in "Attigny" to "son oncle Gaucher comte de Rethel" by charter dated Jul 1253[524].  "Jean chevalier sire d’Espances" granted revenue to "Perrot le fil l’Eswaret d’Avenson", confirmed by "son oncle Gaucher comte de Rethel", by charter dated 1 Oct 1255[525].  “Jehans diz d’Espance chevaliers” sold revenue from vines “de Retel” to “monsignour le conte de Retel” by charter dated Jan 1275, and reserved rights of “madame Mahaus de Bretigni ma famme...par raison de doaire ou par autre raison” over “ma terre d’Espance” by another charter of the same date[526]m firstly AGNES [Columbella], daughter of --- (-after 17 Jul Jul 1253).  “Domina Agnes dicta Columbella uxor domini Johannis de Espancia militis” approved the exchange between “Galcherum comitem Registestensem” and “dictum J. de Espancia” [see above] by charter dated 17 Jul 1253[527]m secondly (before Jan 1275) MATHILDE de Bretigny, daughter of ---.  “Jehans diz d’Espance chevaliers” sold revenue from vines “de Retel” to “monsignour le conte de Retel” by charter dated Jan 1275, and reserved rights of “madame Mahaus de Bretigni ma famme...par raison de doaire ou par autre raison” over “ma terre d’Espance” by another charter of the same date[528]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 4.    NOBILITY in RETHEL

 

 

 

A.      SEIGNEURS du BOIS

 

 

Du Bois was located in the present-day French commune of Ville-Aux-Bois-lès-Pontavert, in the département of Aisne, arrondissement Laon, canton Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne.  The reconstruction of the early generations of this family is based on Moret de la Fayole’s outline included in his history of Roucy, as well as Père Anselme who seems to have mainly copied Moret.  One potential difficulty is the absence of the typical Roucy names Ebles and Hugues after the second generation of Moret’s reconstruction, suggesting the possibility of a fundamental problem in this line of descent.  In addition, primary sources cited below show that two later generations were omitted by both Moret and Anselme.  The primary sources which confirm the remaining parts of their reconstruction have not been identified unless otherwise shown below.  The accuracy of the information cannot therefore be guaranteed, although the chronological succession of generations shown below does appear coherent.  Unfortunately few primary sources have been found which name this family.  The difficulty with identifying sources partly results from the names of family properties which, in searches on sites such as Google Books, produce countless results because of their similarity to common French words (e.g. bois, germaines, termes...). 

A second du Bois family in Champagne/Vitry is shown by a convocation list of Philippe V King of France dated 1319 which includes “Vitry...Henri du Bos, Henri dou Bois seigneur du Tour...[529]: the first Henri can probably be identified as Henri [II] du Bois (see below), but the second has not otherwise been identified nor his connection established to the du Bois family shown below. The following documents reveal the existence of a different du Bois family in Flanders/Hainaut, apparently unrelated to the family in Aisne: “...Jean dou Bos...” was named among “des hommes de Monseigneur de Sotenghiem” in 1286[530], and an enquiry held by the bailli de Hainaut at Faimi in 1287 records the presence of “...Jean dou Bos...[531]

 

 

HUGUES de Roucy, son of HUGUES “Cholet” Comte de Roucy & his second wife Richilde von Staufen (-after 1156)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names “Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem patrem Ebali de Bosco” as sons of "comes Hugo Cholez" & his wife[532]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[533]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[534].  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony. 

m EVA de Courlandon, daughter of ---.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the mother of "Ebali de Bosco" as "de Curia Landonis" but does not name her[535]Europäische Stammtafeln names her “Eva”[536], but the primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. 

Hugues & his wife had two children: 

1.         [EBLES de Roucy (-after 1193).  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony.  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage, noting that he granted privileges to “ses sujets de la Ville-au-Bois” in a charter dated 1193, confirmed later the same year by [his nephew] Jean Comte de Roucy[537].  The timespread between 1193 and the record of Ebles’s son in 1249 suggests either that Ebles survived for many years after 1193, or that another generation is possible in the family.  m ELVIS [Héloïse?], daughter of ---.  Moret de la Fayole records her marriage[538].  Ebles & his wife had [one child]:   

a)         [HENRI [I] de Roucy (-[1249/May 1251]).  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony.  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage, noting that “il fit voyage en la Terre-Sainte” in 1249[539].  Presumably Henri died before May 1251 when his presumed son is named (see below).  As noted below, the records relating to “Jean [I] du Bois” suggest that Moret may have misnamed Henri [I] (no similar fiefholder records have been found which name Henri at the same time).  m ERMENSON [Ermesende?], daughter of ---.  Moret de la Fayole records her marriage[540].  Henri [I] & his wife had one child:]

i)          [JEAN [II] de Roucy ([before 1230]-[Feb 1275/1278]).  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony.  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage[541].] 

-         see below

2.         [BAUDOUIN de Roucy .  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage without further details[542].] 

 

 

Jean [I] du Bois is not named by Moret de la Fayole.  The chronology suggests that, if he was a member of the Roucy/du Bois family, he would have been the son of Ebles de Roucy who is shown above.  The dates of the sources quoted below would overlap with the life of the supposed Henri [I] who is shown above.  Did Moret in fact misname Henri [I] for Jean [I]? 

 

1.         JEAN [I] du Bois (-[1249/May 1251]).  “Johannes de Bosco” is named in a list of Champagne fiefholders for “De castro Theodorici:...terre que comitissa ei dedit in territorio de Bessi” in a list dated [1210/14][543].  “Johannes de Bosco, armiger” is named in a list of Champagne fiefholders for “castellaria de Columbariis” in a list dated [1222/43][544].  The Rôle des fiefs de Champagne [1249/1252] names “Feodo de Columbario:...Johannes de Bosco armiger...apud Boscum”, “Chattelerie de Provins:...Johannes de Bosco” declaring holding “domum fortem suam de Bosco” and “quicquid habet in parrochia de Vilegruis et de Bauchisiaco, preter censum de Mesabon”, “Chattelerie de Provins:...Johannes de Bosco” holding land “prope Aujotrum juxta domum domini Oddonis Poteri[545].  It is not known whether all these entries relate to the same Jean du Bois. 

 

2.         EUDES du Bois (-after [1249/52]).  The Rôle des fiefs de Champagne [1249/1252] records “Chattelerie de Provins:...Johannes de Bosco” declaring holding “domum fortem suam de Bosco” and “quicquid habet in parrochia de Vilegruis et de Bauchisiaco, preter censum de Mesabon”, with “Oddo de Bosco miles” holding from him “in parrochiis de Bauchisiaco et de Vilegruis...[546]It is not known whether Eudes was related to his suzerain or was a knight who had adopted his name from his suzerain’s castle.  

 

 

The parentage of Jean [II] as shown below is uncertain, based only on Moret’s reconstruction.  Not only does the existence of Jean [I] du Bois (see above) introduce an element of doubt concerning the reconstruction presented by Moret de la Fayole, but also the absence of the typical Roucy names Ebles and Hugues from later generations of this family suggests a more fundamental problem with Moret’s proposed line of descent.  One possibility is that Jean [II] was the son of Jean [I].  In addition, maybe Jean [I] was not a male-line descendant of the Roucy/du Bois family but had (for example) married the family’s heiress. 

 

JEAN [II] de Roucy, son of [HENRI [I] de Roucy Seigneur du Bois et de Thony & his wife Ermenson ---] ([before 1230]-[Feb 1275/1278]).  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage[547].  His birth date is estimated on the assumption that he was already adult when named in May 1251 as shown below.  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony.  “Gillet de Mondin et sa femme Aelis” sold one-eighth of “la dîme de Berméricourt” to Saint-Thierry, approved by “Jean du Bois seigneur de Gillet”, by charter dated May 1251[548].  “Jean et Aelis du Bois” sold their part “en la dîme de Brimericourt” to Saint-Thierry by charter dated Jul 1254[549].  A list of fiefholders swearing homage to Thibaut V Comte de Champagne, [maybe dated Sep 1262], names “Jehans du Bois escuiers” is named in a list of Champagne fiefholders swearing allegiance to Thibaut V Comte de Champagne [maybe dated Sep 1262] as “Bailliage de Provins: Feoda de Columbariis in Bria: ...liges de sa meson qui est appellée li Bois” and “Feoda de Marolio...Monsigneur Jehan du Bois, liges de la maison de Germeinne et du bois Wilein de par sa femme, et du four de Nantueil...[550].  “Johans dou Bois chevaliers...S. Toeni” recorded that Erard de Valois chambrier de France et connétable de Champagne acted as his guarantor, by charter dated Dec 1271[551].  A list of fiefholders in Champagne dated 1274/75 names “La Châtelerie de Prouvins...Jehannins dou Bois...en la barroige de Wilegruis, cèst à savoir la maison dou Bois...terre à Fox...en la chatelerie de Vilemort...” and “Bailliage de Vitry...Jehanz dou Bois sires de Tonseiz et de Germangne...la meson de Germangne et --- de Vernay et le four de Nantueil et le fié de Granz[552].  A charter dated Feb 1275 records an earlier purchase “sur Châlons-sur-Vesles à Jean du Bois et sa femme Alice[553].  Jean [I] presumably died before 1278 when his wife is recorded as “dame du Bois...” (see below). 

m (before Jul 1254) ALIX de Germaines Dame de Germaines, daughter of --- ([before 1235/40?]-after Jun 1324).  Moret de la Fayole records her marriage and family origin[554].  “Jean et Aelis du Bois” sold their part “en la dîme de Brimericourt” to Saint-Thierry by charter dated Jul 1254[555].  A list of fiefholders swearing homage to Thibaut V Comte de Champagne, [maybe dated Sep 1262], names “Feoda de Marolio:...Monsigneur Jehan du Bois, liges de la maison de Germeinne et du bois Wilein de par sa femme, et du four de Nantueil...[556].  A charter dated Feb 1275 records an earlier purchase “sur Châlons-sur-Vesles à Jean du Bois et sa femme Alice[557].  Père Anselme indicates that she was named in the “dénombrement” of her son Henri dated 1317[558].  “Alix dame du Bois, Germaine et Soupir” is named in 1278 and again in Jun 1324[559].  “Chastelain de Vitry:...Madame dou Bos, Erart seignor de Nantuil escuier...” are named in a list of seigneurs de Champagne at Ligny 19 Apr 1304[560].  Duchesne records “Alix Dame du Bois et de Germaines” (under her testament, dated 1317?) bequeathed property to Erard Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse and Isabelle his sister, who later transferred their rights to “Marie de Freneel femme de Clair Bridoul Seigneur d’Ormoy le Darien[561].  The possible family relationship between the testator and beneficiaries is discussed below.  Alix died at an advanced age.  Unusual at the time, this could at first sight suggest an error in the data, maybe the existence of two persons named Jean du Bois each married to a wife named Alix.  However, this possibility is disproved by the references to Germaines connected to Jean’s wife between [Sep 1262] and Jun 1324. 

Jean [II] & his wife had [five] children: 

1.         [JEAN [III] du Bois (-[24 Nov 1314/29 Apr 1319?]).  Moret de la Fayole notes that Jean “obtint du Roy Philipes le Bel une nouvelle charte confirmative des privileges des habitants de la Ville-au-Bois” in 1295[562].  Moret assumes that this document refers to Jean [II] but, if as suggested above he died [Feb 1275/1278], it would presumably refer to Jean [III], probably his oldest son and immediate successor.  The question is complicated by Père Anselme who dates this charter to 1285, while still referring to Jean [II], his text suggests that the document was issued by Jean’s wife not by Jean himself[563].  The difficulty with Anselme’s version is that if Jean [III] did exist (and assuming he was no longer a minor in 1295, which looks likely) his mother Alix de Germaines would have had no authority to confirm privileges.  Unfortunately, the doubt about this 1285/1295 document must remain unresolved until the original source is identified.  The existence of this Jean [III] appears confirmed by a [1292/94] listing in the Armorial le Breton which give the arms of Jean du Bois “de gueules à l’arbre d’or” (on the assumption that “l’arbre” is the same as “le chou” which features in other versions of the du Bois arms)[564].  Jean [III] would have been the only du Bois alive at that time.  Assuming that this is correct, Jean [III] may have died (presumably childless) between 24 Nov 1314 (when his brother Henri [II] is named, but not as “seigneur”) and 29 Apr 1319 (when an unnamed “seigneur du Bois” is mentioned, identified as Henri [II] because of the reference to his own son Henri [III]).  Unfortunately, no other sources have yet been found which name Jean [III], although Europäische Stammtafeln mentions the dates 1296 and 1311 connected with him[565]Europäische Stammtafeln also indicates that Jean [III] married, as her second husband, Alix de Nanteuil[566].  The difficulties relating to this proposed marriage are discussed at the end of the Nanteuil-la-Fosse section of the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-CENTRAL CHAMPAGNE, MARNE.

2.         HENRI [II] du Bois ([1255/75?]-[Dec 1329/16 Jun 1334]).  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage[567].  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony.  “Chastelain de Chaumont:...Monsieur Henri du Bos...” is named in a list of Champagne fiefholders at Ligny 19 Apr 1304[568]

-        see below

3.         MARGUERITE du Bois .  Moret de la Fayole and Père Anselme both name “Marguerite du Bois”, daughter of Jean seigneur de Thosny et du Bois and his wife Alix Dame de Germaines, as wife of Gaucher [IV] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse[569].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified, but it is indicated by Duchesne who records that “Alix Dame du Bois et de Germaines” (under her testament, dated 1317?) bequeathed property to Erard Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse and Isabelle his sister, who later transferred their rights to “Marie de Freneel femme de Clair Bridoul Seigneur d’Ormoy le Darien[570].  The testator/beneficiary family relationship is not specified, but the bequest makes sense if the former was maternal grandmother of the latter.  m [as his first wife,] GAUCHER [IV] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, son of ERARD [I] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Mabile de Lézinnes ([1258/65?]-[1282/1306]). 

4.         [--- [du Bois].  The existence of this person is speculative, but as noted above Duchesne records that “Alix Dame du Bois et de Germaines” (under her testament, dated 1317?) bequeathed property to Erard Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse and Isabelle his sister, who later transferred their rights to [the daughter of this supposed person] “Marie de Freneel femme de Clair Bridoul Seigneur d’Ormoy le Darien[571].  One explanation for the transfer to Marie de Fresnel could be a close family relationship with the testator.  Maybe she was another granddaughter of the testator.  No indication has been found either of Marie’s marriage date of of other members of the Fresnel family in order to test the chronological feasibility of this suggestion.  Melleville records that, after the disgrace of Raoul de Presles in 1314, his property was redistributed including “sa terre de Neuilly-Saint-Front” granted to [this person’s supposed daughter] “Marie de Fresnel épouse de Clair Bridoul châtelain de Senlis[572]m --- de Fresnel, son of ---.] 

5.         [--- [du Bois] .  The existence of this person is speculative but provides one possible explanation for the appointment of Henri [II] du Bois (see above) as guardian of the minor children of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré.  Barthélemy suggests that the wife of Comte Jean [I] was the sister of Henri [II][573]: a close family relationship would explain the appointment, but the likely birth date of Jean’s wife suggests that she belonged to a later generation and could not have been Henri’s sister.  Among the alternative explanations include: (1) Jeanne [d’Eloi/d’Elvi] could have been related to Henri through his mother Alix de Germaines; (2) an indirect relationship through Henri’s wife, which would also explain why Henri was chosen as guardian instead of his supposed older brother Jean [III] du Bois (assuming that the latter did in fact exist, as discussed above.]  m --- [d’Eloi/d’Elvi], son of ---.  The only other mention so far found of an “Eloi” family is the following: a list of fiefholders swearing homage to Thibaut V Comte de Champagne, [maybe dated 1262], names “Feoda de Castellione:...Monsigneur Renier d’Ellois, liges de la moitié de maison et appartenances d’Ellois, de doaire...[574].  This place has not been identified in the area of Châtillon-sur-Marne.  One possible child: 

a)         [JEANNE [d’Eloi/d’Elvi] ([before 1285]-after 4 Feb 1324).  Père Anselme names “Jeanne, dont le surnom est ignoré” as the wife of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré[575].  Barthélemy records that “quelques auteurs lui donnent le surnom d’Elvi” (without specifying which authors)[576].  She is named “d’Eloi” by Miroy, as noted below.  Barthélemy suggests that she was the sister of Henri du Bois, who was named as guardian of her son Jean [II] as noted below, but incorrectly suggests that his du Bois family was probably descended from a younger branch of the Dampierre-en-Astenois family (see the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-CENTRAL CHAMPAGNE/MARNE)[577]   The question of Jeanne’s possible family origin is complicated by Europäische Stammtafeln naming “Jeanne de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, daughter of Evrard I & Mabilie de Lézines” as the wife of Jean [I] de Grandpré[578].  The reasons why this is probably incorrect are discussed in the Nanteuil-la-Fosse section of CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-CENTRAL CHAMPAGNE/MARNE.  Jean de Grandpré and Jeanne his wife confirmed the properties of the priory of Grandpré by charter dated Oct 1301[579].  A decision dated 20 Jan 1321 relates to a dispute between “Gautier de Villiers alias La Broce chevalier” and “la comtesse de Grandpré[580]Miroy records that during the minority of her son “Henry d’Argy, Jacquemin de Hans et Erard de Planques” attacked the county and town of Grandpré, and that “Jeanne d’Eloi mère du jeune comte...en qualité de comtesse de Grandpré” launched legal action against the attackers 27 Jul 1323[581]An instruction dated 28 Jul 1323 relates to the lawsuit brought by “la comtesse Jeanne de Grandpré” against “Henri de d’Argies, Jacquemin de Haies, Erard des Planches et leurs complices”, and another dated [Nov/Dec] 1323 against “Henri de Claciaco chevalier, Jaquin de Hans, Henri de Dargies nobles et autres, prévenus de violences contre la comtesse de Grandpré”, while a third dated 4 Feb 1324 records some of the circumstances of their attack on Grandpré[582]m (before Oct 1301) [as his second wife,] JEAN [I] Comte de Grandpré, son of HENRI [V] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Isabelle de Brienne ([1250/55]-[May 1313/24 Nov 1314], bur Verdun Saint-Paul). 

 

 

HENRI [II] du Bois, son of JEAN du Bois [Roucy] Seigneur du Bois et de Thony & his wife Alix Dame de Germaines ([1255/75?]-[Dec 1329/16 Jun 1334])Moret de la Fayole records his parentage[583].  Seigneur du Bois et de Thony.  “Chastelain de Chaumont:...Monsieur Henri du Bos...” is named in a list of Champagne fiefholders at Ligny 19 Apr 1304[584].  Henri du Bois was guardian of Jean [II] Comte de Grandpré during the latter’s minority: "...Erardus de Nantolio, Henricus de Bosco, tutor Johannis comitis Magnipratensis..." are named among the supporters of Champagne in a treaty against the Burgundians dated 24 Nov 1314[585]Moret de la Fayole notes that Henri du Bois “se trouve dans le tresor de Roucy, des dénombremens qu’il a rendus à Jean Comte de Roucy” in 1317[586]A convocation list of Philippe V King of France dated 1319 includes “Vitry...Henri du Bos, Henri dou Bois seigneur du Tour...[587].  Presumably Henri [II] du Bois was the first named.  A convocation list of Champagne nobles at Troyes dated 29 Apr 1319 names “...le seigneur dou Bois, le seigneur de Choisel, Messire Henry dou Bois le fil...[588].  Seigneur de Germaines.  Seigneur de Luitre/Lhuitre.  A list of the dower properties of Jeanne d’Evreux Queen of France, dated 1325/34, includes “Chastillon:..Monseigneur Henris du Boys sires de Luitre chevalier...à cause du bail des enfants de feu monseigneur Jehan Trouillart de Joinville...Messire Henris sires du Bois, tient du seigneur de Nantueil....” and “Esparnay:...Monseigneur Henri du Boys sires de Luytre chevaliers...Monseigneur Henri du Boys seigneur de Germaine, ou lieu que l’en dit Boys Guillaume[589].  Henri du Bois Seigneur de Lhuitre and his wife Agnès de Termes are named in relation to “Memont et Grandchamp” in a charter dated Dec 1329[590].  He is named as deceased in the 16 Jun 1334 which names his widow. 

m AGNES Dame de Termes, daughter of --- (-after 16 Jun 1334).  Henri du Bois Seigneur de Lhuitre and his wife Agnès de Termes are named in relation to “Memont et Grandchamp” in a charter dated Dec 1329[591].  “Agnès dame de Termes” is named 16 Jun 1334 as widow of Henri [II] and mother of “Henri [III] époux d’Agnès d’Etrepy[592]

Henri [II] & his wife had one child: 

1.         HENRI [III] du Bois ([1280/1300]-Calais 1 Jan 1350).  A convocation list of Champagne nobles at Troyes dated 29 Apr 1319 names “...le seigneur dou Bois, le seigneur de Choisel, Messire Henry dou Bois le fil...[593].  He is not named by either Moret de la Fayole or Père Anselme.  His birth date range is estimated very approximately from the likely birth date range of his father.  “Agnès dame de Termes” is named 16 Jun 1334 as widow of Henri [II] and mother of “Henri [III] époux d’Agnès d’Etrepy[594].  Moret de la Fayole notes that Henri du Bois “se trouve dans le tresor de Roucy, des dénombrmens qu’il a rendus à Jean Comte de Roucy” in 1317 and 1340, the second document referring presumably to Henri [III] although Moret does not distinguish between Henri [II] and Henri [III][595].  The Chronicle of Jean de Noyal records that “le chastel de Boomont emprès Marle, lequel estoit à messire Jehan de Vrevin chevalier” was besieged by “le conte de Roucy”, explaining that Jean had been defeated “en champ par messire Henri du Bos chevalier à Paris en la presence du roy” and fled to the English at Calais to whom he had delivered his castle, dated to 1347[596].  Moranvillé records that “Henri du Bois” died at Calais 1 Jan 1350, ambushed by the English, an event recorded by Froissart[597], which must refer to Henri [III].  m AGNES d’Etrépy, daughter of ---.  “Agnès dame de Termes” is named 16 Jun 1334 as widow of Henri [II] and mother of “Henri [III] époux d’Agnès d’Etrepy[598].  Her parentage has not been ascertained.  Henri [III] & his wife had one child: 

a)         EDOUARD [I] du Bois ([1310/30]-[9 Apr 1363/2 Sep 1363]).  Seigneur du Bois, de Thony, et de Termes.  Moret de la Fayole records Edouard as son of Henri du Bois, noting that “[il] aliéna les seigneuries de Tosny et du Bois” (undated)[599].  No document has been found which confirms his sale of these territories.  His birth date range is estimated very approximately from the likely birth date range of his father.  Froissart records English forces attacking “Carni en Dormois” in Champagne in Nov 1359, defended by “Edowars dou Bos et...Guis de Caples[600].  Moranvillé notes that Edouard “possédait avec ses sœurs le village de Termes, et paya de l’incendie de Termes sa fidelité au régent”, but does not cite the source on which this information is based[601].  The reference has not been found either in Froissart or Knighton (who also records the attacks on “villam de Cerney in Dormoys...[et] Meuram in Campania” but without naming Edouard[602]).  He is named as living in the 9 Apr 1363 charter which names his daughter Jeanne, quoted below.  He presumably died before 2 Sep 1363, the date of the charter of his presumed son Henri [IV] cited below.  m ---.  The name of Edouard’s wife is not known.  Edouard [I] & his wife had [five] children: 

i)          [HENRI [IV] du Bois (-after 2 Sep 1363).  “Henri Seigneur du Bois, Littres et Soupir” listed his territories (“dénombre”) by charter dated 2 Sep 1363[603].  The date suggests that this document relates to an otherwise unrecorded older son of Edouard [I] who had recently succeeded his father.] 

ii)         EDOUARD [II] du Bois ([1330/40]-[1376/85])He is not named by either Moret de la Fayole or Père Anselme.  Seigneur de Manre et de Termes.  Weris de Walcourt chevalier seigneur de Termes en partie, sa femme Jean du Bos, Arnoud d’Oreye chevalier seigneur de Rosée et dudit Termes en partie, sa femme Béatrice du Bos, ainsi qu’Audouares dou Bos écuyer, également seigneur partiel de Termes” suspended charges on the inhabitants of Termes in light of damage caused during recent wars, by charter dated early Nov 1368[604]

-         see below

iii)        JEANNE du Bois (-after 22 Feb [1376/77])Werryt sires de Walcourt” sold the “seigneurie de Walcourt” to “Guillaume comte de Namur”, if he died without lawful heirs, reserving rights to “[son] épouse dame Jehenne fille messire Andouar Dou Bos”, by charter dated 9 Apr 1363[605].  “Wéry de Walcourt chevalier et Jeanne du Bois sa femme” notified that Guillaume [I] Comte de Namur had repurchased revenue by charter dated 11 May 1364[606].  Thierry d’Orjo records various family members who are named in primary source documentation, including charters dated Nov 1368 and 22 Feb 1376 (O.S.?) which name Wéry [IV] de Walcourt and his wife, and Wéry’s participation in a military expedition 23 May 1383[607]m (before 9 Apr 1363) WERY [IV] de Walcourt, son of WERY [III] Seigneur de Walcourt & his wife [Philippine de Trazegnies] (after [1325]-after 23 May 1383).  Seigneur de Termes (part). 

iv)       [BEATRIX du Bois (-after Nov 1368).  Two documents suggest her parentage: “Weris de Walcourt chevalier seigneur de Termes en partie, sa femme Jean du Bos, Arnoud d’Oreye chevalier seigneur de Rosée et dudit Termes en partie, sa femme Béatrice du Bos, ainsi qu’Audouares dou Bos écuyer, également seigneur partiel de Termes” suspended charges on the inhabitants of Termes in light of damage caused during recent wars, by charter dated early Nov 1368[608]Fragments of an enquiry dated end-15th/early 16th century into the succession of “la terre de Rosée” record the death before 22 Jun 1477 of “Guillaume d’Oreye-Rummen, descendant d’Arnoud et de Béatrice de Bois[609]m (before Nov 1368) ARNOUL [III] d’Oreilhe Seigneur de Rosée, son of GUILLAUME [II] Seigneur d’Oreilhe & his wife --- (-[13 Jul 1370/22 Dec 1383]).  Seigneur de Termes (part).] 

v)        [m --- du Bois .  Dame de Germaines.  No documentary proof has been found about the marriage of Hugues de Châtillon, but it is possible that he acquired Germaines from his wife.  If that is correct, she could have been the descendant of Jean Seigneur du Bois and his wife Alix Dame de Germaines.  Two alternatives are possible: (1) Germaines could have passed from the du Bois family through the female line, a possibility which is suggested by Duchesne who records that "Elizabeth de Montaigu Comtesse de Roucy et de Braine, Dame de Montaigu, de Marcoussis et de Germaines” swore homage “à cause de sa terre de Germaines, tenue en fief du chasteau de Nanteuil” to “Bonne de Bar Comtesse de Liney et de S. Pol”, dated to after 1398[610].  The transfer of Germaines to Nanteuil-la-Fosse could have occurred when Marguerite du Bois married Gaucher [IV] de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse (see below).  If that is correct, the chronology suggests that the wife of Hugues de Châtillon could have been --- de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, daughter of Erard [III] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Alix de Thianges Dame de Drony.  In this case, Hugues de Châtillon and his wife would have died childless, in light of the later transfer of Nanteuil-la-Fosse to the comital family of Roucy; (2) assuming that the direct male-line descendant of the du Bois family retained Germaines, the chronology suggests that Hugues’s wife could have been the daughter of Edouard [I] du Bois.  This second suggestion is unsupport by Henri [II] du Bois being named as seigneur de Germaines (see above), but unsustained by this person’s absence from the Nov 1368 charter which names her other supposed siblings (unless Hugues’s wife was already deceased at the time).]  m HUGUES de Châtillon Seigneur de Germaines, son of JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon & his second wife Isabelle de Montmorency ([1337/41?]-after 13 Oct 1376).] 

b)         two or more daughters .  Their existence is confirmed by Moranvillé who notes that Edouard [II] du Bois “possédait avec ses sœurs le village de Termes...”, without citing the source on which the information is based[611].  As noted above, the corresponding reference has not been found either in Froissart or Knighton. 

 

 

The precise relationships between the following persons and the main du Bois family shown above have not been ascertained.  From a chronological point of view, it appears that they could have been children of either Henri [II] or Henri [III]. 

 

1.         ALIX du Bois (-after 1332).  Aelis dou Bos” and her husband “Colard d’Autry seigneur de Charbogne” were named in 1331 and 1332[612]m COLARD d’Autry Seigneur de Charbogne, son of --- (-after 1332). 

 

2.         JEANNE du Bois (-after 8 May 1343).  “Jeanne dou Bos” and her husband “Baudoin de la Bove chevalier sire de Ville” were named in relation to “Mesmont et Grandchamp prov. Termes” in a charter dated 8 May 1343[613]m BAUDOUIN de la Bove Seigneur de Ville, son of ---.  

 

 

EDOUARD [II] du Bois, son of EDOUARD [I] du Bois Seigneur de Termes & his wife --- ([1330/40]-[1376/Jun 1385]).  Seigneur de Termes.  Seigneur de Manre, de iure uxorisWeris de Walcourt chevalier seigneur de Termes en partie, sa femme Jean du Bos, Arnoud d’Oreye chevalier seigneur de Rosée et dudit Termes en partie, sa femme Béatrice du Bos, ainsi qu’Audouares dou Bos écuyer, également seigneur partiel de Termes” suspended charges on the inhabitants of Termes in light of damage caused during recent wars, by charter dated early Nov 1368[614].  He is named as deceased in the Jun 1385 listing which names his wife, quoted below. 

m ([1365/70?]) MARGUERITE [de Hangard/Hougart] Dame de Manre et de Vieux-lès-Meure, daughter/granddaughter of --- [& his wife --- de Grandpré] (-after Jun 1385).  Moret de la Fayole names her parents “Jean de Roye Seigneur de Cangy & Marie de Châtillon” (which is difficult to reconcile chronologically) and records her marriage (although he amalgamates Edouard [I] and Edouard [II] into one person)[615].  Père Anselme (who also amalgamates Edouard [I] and Edouard [II]) names her “Marguerite de Roye dite de Hangard dame de Manre”, without recording her precise parentage, and notes that she was living in 1385[616].  She has not otherwise been traced in the Roye family (see the document NORTHERN FRANCE-VALOIS, VEXIN & VERMANDOIS), while no other reference has been found to Hangard/Hougart.  Marguerite’s association with Manre (and Vieux-les-Meure) is confirmed by the Jun 1385 charter quoted below.  Manre and Vieux-les-Meure were held in the late 13th century by the Grandpré family, as confirmed by two charters: (1) “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[617]; (2) “Henris cuens de Grant Prei et...Henris annez filz le conte de Grant Prei et...Jehans filz au dit conte de Grant Prei sires de Busancy” agreed not to sell “Grant Prei ne la chastelerie de Grant Prei...Manre“ by charter dated 8 Apr 1280[618].  No further reference has been found to Manre before Jun 1385, but the Grandpré connection may provide an indication of Marguerite’s ancestry.  A list of Reims fiefs dated Jun 1385 includes “arrière-fiez tenus dudit archevesque à cause de son chastel de Betteniville...madamoiselle Marguerite de Hougart, femme de feu Eudouart Dubois, tant pour elle comme ayant le bail...de ses enfans...le chastel et ville de Menre et de Vieux-les-Meure...[619]

Edouard [II] & his wife had three children: 

1.         JOSSE du Bois ([after 1365/70]-after 1403).  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage[620].  The Jun 1385 listing quoted above records his mother’s children as under age.  Seigneur de Manres et de Termes.  Père Anselme records him in 1403[621].  m ETIENNETTE de Sully, daughter of GUILLAUME de Sully Seigneur de Vouillon et de Saint-Aoust & his second wife Isabelle de Montigny.  Moret de la Fayole records her parentage and marriage[622].  Père Anselme records her parentage, naming her “Phanette que l’on croit avoir épousé Iosse de Rouci seigneur du Bois[623].  Josse & his wife had children:

a)         ANTOINE du Bois (-after 19 May 1479).  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage[624].  Seigneur de Manres et de Termes.  Père Anselme records him swearing homage to Jean Juvenel des Ursins Archbishop of Reims for Manre in 1446, to the king for Termes and property held from Sainte-Menehoult at Preuilly 15 Jul 1454, and obtained the lifting of embargo on “des terres d’Argiers et de Maupertuis faite sur sa femme” from “[le] bailly de Sainte-Menehoult” 19 May 1479[625]m JEANNE de Chenery, daughter of JEAN de Chenery Chambellan du Roi & his wife --- (-after 18 May 1482).  Moret de la Fayole records her parentage and marriage[626].  Père Anselme records that as a widow she issued a proxy to her son Guillaume “pour faire hommage de ses terres” 18 May 1482[627].  Antoine & his wife had children: 

i)          GUILLAUME du Bois [de Roucy] (-after 27 Jan 1501).  Moret de la Fayole records his parentage, noting that he readopted the name “de Roucy” by charter dated 30 May 1484 when he was knighted by the king[628].  Père Anselme records that this was confirmed by judgment dated 11 Jan 1485 and that he was named “Guillaume de Roucy dit du Bos chevalier” in a charter dated 27 Jan 1501[629].  Seigneur de Luitre, de Manre, d’Argiers, de Valmont et de Maupertuis.  m JEANNE d’Aspremont, daughter of EDOUARD/GUILLAUME d’Aspremont Seigneur de Busancy & his wife Beatrix de Haraucourt.  Moret de la Fayole records her parentage (naming her father “Guillaume”) and marriage[630].  Père Anselme names her father “Edouard[631]

-         SEIGNEURS de MANRE et de TERMES[632]

ii)         FRANÇOIS du Bois (-1496).  Seigneur de Termes.  Père Anselme records his parentage “mort en 1496[633]

iii)        CLAUDE du Bois ).  Barthélemy records her family origin and marriage[634].  Moret de la Fayole records her precise parentage and marriage[635]m GOBERT de Grandpré Seigneur de Cornay et de Fléville, son of EDOUARD [II] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Mathilde de Rubempré (-after 19 Jul 1484). 

iv)       JACQUELINE du Bois .  Moret de la Fayole records her parentage[636].  Abbess of Reims Saint-Pierre. 

2.         JEANNE du Bois (-after 1391).  A document dated 1391 names “Jeanne et Marie filles de feu Edouard et de Marguerite, sœurs de Josse[637]

3.         MARIE du Bois (-after 4 Feb 1402).  A document dated 1391 names Jeanne et Marie filles de feu Edouard et de Marguerite, sœurs de Josse” and one dated 4 Feb 1402 names Marie[638]

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de HIERGES, CHÂTELAINS de BOUILLON

 

 

Hierges was located near Givet in the north of the county of Champagne, close to the border with the county of Namur.  A charter dated 1127 records that “Rainaldus Remensis ecclesiæ...minister” conceded “castellum…Bullion” as a fief to “Alberoni Leodiensium episcopo”, naming “quatuor...de castellaniis de Buillon, Gualterum...de Buillon, Ingonem de Mirenvalt, Manassem de Herge, Ingonem filium Lamberti, et quatuor de aliis casatis suis Cingerum advocatum, Galterum castellanum de Hoio, Rainaldum de Jupperi, Lambertum de Tiembeche[639]

 

 

1.         HERIBRAND [I] de Hierges, son of --- (-after 1069).  Châtelain de Bouillon.  m ---.  The name of Héribrand’s wife is not known.  Héribrand [I] & his wife had two children:  

a)         HERIBRAND [II] de Hierges .  "…Herbranni castellani, Herbranni filii sui, Alberti filii sui…" subscribed the charter dated 1069 under which "Godefridus…dux et marchio" donated the church of Saint-Dagobert de Stenay to Gorze[640].  Châtelain de Bouillon.  The Chronicon Sancti Huberti names "Liegarde amita Arnulfi comitis", her husband "Richizonis" and their four sons "Hugo et Ludovicus, Rodericus et Riquinus", recording that "Riquinus" was killed by "Heribrando Bulionensi" and buried at St Hubert (dated to before 1084)[641].  "…Herbranni castellani, Herbranni filii sui, Alberti filii sui…" subscribed the charter dated 1069 under which "Godefridus…dux et marchio" donated the church of Saint-Dagobert de Stenay to Gorze[642]m HEDWIGE d'Orchimont, daughter of GISELBERT d'Orchimont [Argenteau] & his wife ---.  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.   Héribrand [II] & his wife had [two] children: 

i)          HERIBRAND [III] de Hierges (-1114).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.   Châtelain de Bouillon. 

-         see below

ii)         [ARNOUL de Hierges (-murdered 1124).  He was captured by Turks in 1123, and murdered the following year.] 

b)         ALBERT de Hierges (-after 1069).  "…Herbranni castellani, Herbranni filii sui, Alberti filii sui…" subscribed the charter dated 1069 under which "Godefridus…dux et marchio" donated the church of Saint-Dagobert de Stenay to Gorze[643]

 

 

HERIBRAND [III] de Hierges, son of HERIBRAND [II] de Hierges Châtelain de Bouillon & his wife Hedwige d'Orchimont (-1114).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.   Châtelain de Bouillon.  [Domesday Book records land held by “Herbrand” in Boyatt in Mansbridge Hundred in Hampshire[644].  It is not known whether this entry relates to Héribrand de Hierges, but the name is indicative.]  Albert of Aix names "…Herebrandus de Buillon…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[645]

m as her first husband, HODIERNE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES I Comte de Rethel (-[1118]).  William of Tyre records "Hodierna" as second sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, and names her (first) husband and her son Manassès[646].  She married secondly Roger de Hauteville Prince of Antioch.  The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not yet been identified.  According to Fulcher of Chartres, the wife of Prince Roger committed adultery shamelessly with many other men[647].  1126. 

Héribrand [III] & his wife had one child: 

1.         MANASSES de Hierges (-[Brogne Abbey] 8 Jan 1176).  William of Tyre names him and specifies that he was "consobrinus" of Mélisende Queen of Jerusalem[648].   Manassem nobilem virum de Hirge” donated property to Brogne after deciding to leave for Jerusalem by charter dated 1140[649]Constable of Jerusalem: "De baronibus: Manasses constabularius, Robertus Crispini pincerna, Orricus vicecomes Neapolitanus, Sado marescalcus..." subscribed the charter dated 20 Feb 1146 under which King Baudouin III donated land “in territorio Tyriensi” to St. Mary Josaphat[650].  "Amalricus filius reginæ, Rohardus Bencellinus [?] vicecomes, Philippus de Neapoli, Manases constabularius..." subscribed the charter dated 1150 after 22 Jun under which Queen Mélisende confirmed a donation to Saint-Lazare[651].  He was removed from office in 1152.  He was captured by the Turks 1152, but released when he promised to leave the East, which he did in 1154[652].  Alexander Bishop of Liège notified donations to Alne, including the donation of “à Fontaines...l’avouerie” made by “Gérard de Thuin du consentement de sa femme Béatrix et de ses co-héritiers”, by charter dated 1165, witnessed by “...Lodovicus advocatus Hasbanie...Manisserus de Hirge, Arnulphus de Sirche, Guedericus de Walecurt...[653].  The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “...feodum domini Manasse de Hergeis…” in De Sparnaco[654]The Notæ Bronienses record the death in 1175 of "vir nobilis Manasses de Lingez" and that of "filius suus Herbrandus" 40 days after his father[655]The necrology of Brogne records the death "VI Id Jan" of "Manasses de Hirgia, conversus et monacus hujus loci" and his donation of a relic of the holy cross[656]m firstly (1152) as her second husband, HELVIS of Rama, widow of BALIAN Lord of Ibelin, daughter of BAUDOUIN [I] Lord of Rama & his wife Stephanie --- ([1115]-after 1158).  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Helvoys" as the daughter of "mesire Baudoyn" & his wife, recording that she married "Belleem a la Barbe"[657].  Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1160 under which "Hugo de Ybelino…Ramathensis domino" names "Balduini avi mei"[658], which can only refer to his maternal grandfather as his paternal grandfather's name is deduced as Balian from other sources.  She became heiress of Rama on the death of her brother in [1148].  William of Tyre describes her as "domini Baliani senioris viduam" when recording her second marriage[659].  The Lignages d'Outremer record her second marriage to "le conestable Manassier" after the death of her first husband[660].  "Balduinus…in sancta Iherusalem Latinorum rex quartus" confirmed the donation by "Hugo de Hybelino et…fratris sui Balduini et sororis sue Hermengardis domine Tiberiadis et matris sue Helois…" to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem by charter dated 14 Jan 1155[661]m secondly ALIX de Chiny, daughter of ALBERT Comte de Chiny & his wife --- (-9 Aug, after 1177, bur Brogne Abbey).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "comes Ludovicus, Theodericus de Marleriis, episcopus Arnulphus Virdunensis, domna de Hirges et Ida domna de Asperomonte et mater Rogerii de Walehem" as children of "Albertus comes senior Namucensis"[662], although "Namucensis" is an error for "Cisneiensis".  The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the installation as Bishop of Verdun of "Albertus de Hirgis nepos ex sorore episcopi Arnulfi et comitis de Cisneio Ludovici et Theoderici de Marleriis", recalling that he had a brother "Ludowicum qui longo tempore fuit abbas Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis"[663].  The necrology of Brogne records the death "V Id Aug" of "Alaidis domina de Hierge uxor domini Manassis"[664].  Manassès & his first wife had two children:

a)         HELVIS de Hierges ([1153/54]-).  The Lignages d'Outremer refer to the two daughters of "le conestable Manassier" and his wife Helvis as "[la] feme de Mesire Anciau de Brie…[et] [la] feme de sire Hugue de Mimars", stating that the former was "ayole de Johan de Brie, et dou mareschau sire Johan d'Antioche et de la dame de Genido"[665].  The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.  m (1167 or before) ANSEAU de Brie, son of ---.  Anseau & his wife had three children: 

i)          ANSEAU de Brie .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Ansiau et…Johan de Brie" as sons of "Ansiau de Brie"[666]

ii)         JEAN de Brie .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Ansiau et…Johan de Brie" as sons of "Ansiau de Brie"[667].  Another manuscript of the Lignages d'Outremer lists Jean's descendants[668]

iii)        HELVIS de Brie .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Heloys, une des nieces dou grant Baudoyn de Ybelin, fille dou grant Ansiau de Brie" as wife of "Johan…seignor d'Arsur"[669].  The Lignages d'Outremer record that "Johan le seignor d'Arsur…sa feme Heloys", after the death of her first husband, married secondly "Vilain d'Aneui", who hanged himself by his hat while hunting in the forest of Arsur, and thirdly "Jofrei de Kafran" who was killed by a horse[670]m firstly JEAN of Arsur, son of ---.  m secondly VILAIN d'Aneui, son of --- (-killed Arsur ----).  m thirdly GEOFFROY de Cafran, son of ---. 

b)         ISABELLE de Hierges ([1153/54]-).  The Lignages d'Outremer refer to the two daughters of "le conestable Manassier" and his wife Helvis as "[la] feme de Mesire Anciau de Brie…[et] [la] feme de sire Hugue de Mimars", stating that the latter was "ayole de Balian de Mimars"[671].  The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.  m (before 1180) HUGUES de Mimars, son of ---.  1171/81.  Hugues & his wife had two children: 

i)          RENAUD de Mimars .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "…Ysabiau…suer de Renaut de Mimars"[672].  Another manuscript of the Lignages d'Outremer lists his descendants[673]

ii)         ISABELLE de Mimars .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Heloys, une des nieces dou grant Baudoyn de Ybelin, fille dou grant Ansiau de Brie" as wife of "Johan…seignor d'Arsur", and "l'autre niece Ysabiau…suer de Renaut de Mimars" who was wife of "[le] seignor de Saone et ot une fille" and who after their land was lost and her husband dead "par povreté" married her daughter "a un Geneveis…Bonveissin" who had two sons "Bonveissin qui morut sanz hoirs et l'autre Baudoin Bonvoisin qui fut pere de ceste dame de Quelie"[674]m firstly --- Seigneur de Saône, son of ---.  m secondly --- Bonvoisin, son of ---. 

Manassès & his second wife had [eight] children:

c)         HERIBRAND de Hierges (-16 Feb 1177).  The Notæ Bronienses record the death in 1175 of "vir nobilis Manasses de Lingez" and that of "filius suus Herbrandus" 40 days after his father[675]The necrology of Brogne records the death "XIV Kal Mar" of "Hebrandus miles filius domini Manasses de Hierge", for whose soul "sua quondam conjux" donated "decem solidos in villa sua de Bossut"[676]

d)         HENRI de Hierges (-[26 Jan or 25 Nov] 1213)Seigneur de Hierges.  [The necrology of Brogne records the death "VII Kal Feb" of "vir nobilis dominus de Hirge"[677].  It is not known to which of the seigneurs de Hierges this entry refers.  The necrology of Brogne records the death "VII Kal Dec" of "Henrici militis de Hirgia"[678].]  m YOLANDE de Rumigny, daughter of NICOLAS [III] Seigneur de Rumigny & his wife Eva de Chièvres (-before 1248).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Iulianum…Raynaldo de Roseto maritatem de quo…Rogerum et Clementiam [uxor] Gerardo de Haslut et Yolandem [uxor] Henrici de Hirge et advocato Hasbaniensi et apud Winti in Flandria" as daughters of "Nicholaus qui et Ruminium et Florinas castra possedit" & his wife[679].  "Gotbertus vir nobilis de Orbais" founded the church of Sainte-Catherine de Milen, with the consent of "Jolenda domina de Yrgis, cuius filiam in uxorem habui", to found anniversaries for "meum…sed et uxoris meæ Evæ, et fratris sui Ægidii, Jolandæ etiam de Yrges…sed et domini Hugonis de Florinis", by charter dated 1219[680]"Gobertus dominus de Bivel...Hugo dominus de Florines...Yolendis domina de Hirgia" declared that “dominus Egidius miles dominus de Hirgia” had donated revenue “in duobus molendinis de Hiergia et de Valcellis” to Waulsort by charter dated 1219[681]Henri & his wife had three children:  

i)          GILLES de Hierges (-1219)Seigneur de Hierges"Egidius dominus de Hyrgia" reached agreement with Saint-Hubert, Ardenne concerning the avoueries of Vaucelles and Doische, with the agreement of "Gobertus sororius meus et D. soror mea de Byul", by charter dated to [1214][682]Châtelain de Bouillon.  "Ludovici comitis de Chisni, Egidii de Hierge, Arnulphi de Morelmes, Jacobi de Orcismont" signed the charter dated 1218 under which "Rogerus de Cimaco…castellaniam de Covinio" confirmed his rights and those of the bishop of Liège in Couvin[683]"Gotbertus vir nobilis de Orbais" founded the church of Sainte-Catherine de Milen, with the consent of "Jolenda domina de Yrgis, cuius filiam in uxorem habui", to found anniversaries for "meum…sed et uxoris meæ Evæ, et fratris sui Ægidii, Jolandæ etiam de Yrges…sed et domini Hugonis de Florinis", by charter dated 1219[684]"Gobertus dominus de Bivel...Hugo dominus de Florines...Yolendis domina de Hirgia" declared that “dominus Egidius miles dominus de Hirgia” had donated revenue “in duobus molendinis de Hiergia et de Valcellis” to Waulsort by charter dated 1219[685]m ([1218/19]) as her first marriage, HELVIDE de Faing, daughter of THIERRY de Faing [Faing sous Jamoigne, Luxembourg] avoué de Waulsort et d’Hastière & his wife Ida --- (-after 21 Apr 1239).  She married secondly (1220) Gilles Seigneur de Walcourt et de Rochefort.  Her two marriages are confirmed by the bull dated 8 Apr 1236 from Pope Gregory IX instructing the bishop of Liège to issue dispensation for the marriage between “Aegidium dominum de Rupe Forti et H. eius uxorem”, recording that “Egidio domino de Rupe Forti” had notified that “quondam Egidius dominus de Hyerge” (who was related to him in 3° consanguinity) had when “infra annos nubiles” contracted marriage with “H. uxore sua” and lived with her “in domo sua per quinque meses”, and that the former had married her, lived with her for 15 years and procreated “plures ex ea filios[686].  Her parentage and second marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 1218 under which "Theodericus miles de Fen advocatus ecclesie Walciodorensis" donated revenue from his duties “super winagium meum” to Waulsort, with the consent of “uxore mea domina Ida et Heribrando domino hujus feodi[687], read together with the ratification of this donation made by Gilles seigneur de Walcourt et Héluide de Faing son épouse” by charter dated Nov 1221[688]Egidius miles de Ruppeforti et de Wallecuria...nec Helvidis uxor mea” was obliged to destroy property he had built “in villa de Hasteriis” after the arbitration of “Henricum dominum de Huffalize” by charter dated 21 Apr 1239[689]

ii)         EVA de Hierges "Egidius dominus de Hyrgia" reached agreement with Saint-Hubert, Ardenne concerning the avoueries of Vaucelles and Doische, with the agreement of "Gobertus sororius meus et D. soror mea de Byul", by charter dated to [1214][690]"Gotbertus vir nobilis de Orbais" founded the church of Sainte-Catherine de Milen, with the consent of "Jolenda domina de Yrgis, cuius filiam in uxorem habui", to found anniversaries for "meum…sed et uxoris meæ Evæ, et fratris sui Ægidii, Jolandæ etiam de Yrges…sed et domini Hugonis de Florinis", by charter dated 1219[691]m GOBERT d'Orbais Seigneur de Rioul, son of ENGUERRAND Seigneur d’Orbais & [his second wife ---] (-1232). 

iii)        D--- (-after [1214]).  "Egidius dominus de Hyrgia" reached agreement with Saint-Hubert, Ardenne concerning the avoueries of Vaucelles and Doische, with the agreement of "Gobertus sororius meus et D. soror mea de Byul", by charter dated to [1214][692]m --- de Bioul, son of ---.  "Gobertus dominus de Bivel...Hugo dominus de Florines...Yolendis domina de Hirgia" declared that “dominus Egidius miles dominus de Hirgia” had donated revenue “in duobus molendinis de Hiergia et de Valcellis” to Waulsort by charter dated 1219[693].  It is not known whether “Gobertus dominus de Bivel” was the husband or son of “D---“, although the chronology appears tight for him to have been her son. 

e)         ALBERT de Hierges (-killed 25/26 Jul 1208)Bishop of Verdun 1186.  The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record the abdication in 1186 of “Henricus” and the succession of “Albertus[694].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the installation as Bishop of Verdun of "Albertus de Hirgis nepos ex sorore episcopi Arnulfi et comitis de Cisneio Ludovici et Theoderici de Marleriis", recalling that he had a brother "Ludowicum qui longo tempore fuit abbas Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis"[695].  The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record that “Albertus episcopus” was killed (“lancea interemptus”) in 1208 and succeeded by “Robertus primicerius[696]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1208 “apud Virdunum inter clericos et laicos grave...discordie” which resulted in the mortal wounding of “eorum episcopus Albertus de Hirges[697]

f)          LOUIS de Hierges .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the installation as Bishop of Verdun of "Albertus de Hirgis nepos ex sorore episcopi Arnulfi et comitis de Cisneio Ludovici et Theoderici de Marleriis", recalling that he had a brother "Ludowicum qui longo tempore fuit abbas Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis"[698].  Abbot of Saint-Vidon, Verdun. 

g)         GAUTHIER de Hierges (-18 Sep ----).  The necrology of Brogne records the death "XIV Kal Oct" of "Gualterus miles filius domini Manassis de Hirgia"[699]

h)         [FADIE .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Fadie et Hodierne" as the children of "le conestable Menassier [et] de sa feme espouse", stating that Fadie married "Reymont, le fis de Hue de Giblet"[700].  Another manuscript of the Lignages d'Outremer clarifies the name of her husband when it names "Fadie, la fille dou conestable Menassier" as the wife of "Guilliaume, l'autre fis de Hue l'Embriac, seignor de Giblet"[701].  The first passage does not name the mother of the two daughters Fadie and Hodierne.  However, it confuses the order of Manassès's marriages, recording that he married Helvis of Rama (who was most likely his first wife, as shown above) after the death of his first wife, the mother of Fadie and Hodierne, implying clearly that their mother was Manassès's other wife.  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[702], Fadie was the daughter of Manassès by his first marriage.  The chronology of the family of the Lords of Jebail suggests that Guillaume's wife was born after Helvis of Rama would have ceased to be of child-bearing age.  The implication is that Fadie and Hodierne must have been the daughters of a subsequent marriage.  No record has been found of Manassès having another wife besides Alix de Chiny, who presumably therefore must have been the mother of these two daughters, although the issue is not without doubt.  m GUILLAUME Embriaco of Jebail, son of GUILLAUME Embriaco Lord of Jebail & his wife Sancha --- (-1200 or after).] 

i)          [HODIERNE .  The Lignages d'Outremer name "Fadie et Hodierne" as the children of "le conestable Menassier [et] de sa feme espouse", stating that Hodierne married "le seignour dou Grantgerin" and that they were parents of "Henri qui s'en ala outremer en Constantinople et ot les Pigas", naming his children and one granddaughter[703].  The passage does not name the mother of these two daughters.  As explained above in relation to Hodierne's sister Fadie, it is more probable that the two sisters were Manassès's daughters by his second marriage, although the question is not without doubt.  m --- Seigneur de Grantgerin, son of ---.] 

j)          MELISENDE de Hierges (-[1200]).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.   m GUILLAUME de Gommegnies, son of ---. 

 

 

1.         THIERRYm MATHILDE, daughter of ---.  Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 25 May 1189 under which her son "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert, naming "Henrici nepotis mei advocati præfati altaris…Theodorico fratre meo de Turri et Arnulpho sororio meo de Monte Sancti Martini…patris nostri Theoderici et matris nostræ Mathildis"[704].  Thierry & his wife had children: 

a)         HERIBRAND (-after 25 May 1189).  Châtelain de Bouillon.  "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus", on the point of leaving on crusade, donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert by charter dated 25 May 1189, which records an earlier donation for the soul of "Margaretæ primæ meæ coniugis" naming "Henrici nepotis mei advocati præfati altaris…Theodorico fratre meo de Turri et Arnulpho sororio meo de Monte Sancti Martini…patris nostri Theoderici et matris nostræ Mathildis", in the presence of "Idæ uxoris meæ et fratris eius Nicolai de Ham generi mei et filiarum mearum Cæciliæ et Agnetis"[705]m firstly MARGUERITE, daughter of ---.  Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 25 May 1189 under which her husband "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert, recording an earlier donation for the soul of "Margaretæ primæ meæ coniugis"[706]m secondly IDA de Han-sur-Liesse, daughter of GODEFROI de Han-sur-Liesse & his wife Helwide ---.  "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert by charter dated 25 May 1189, in the presence of "Idæ uxoris meæ et fratris eius Nicolai de Ham generi mei et filiarum mearum Cæciliæ et Agnetis"[707].  Heribrand & his first wife had [three] children: 

i)          [--- .  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 25 May 1189 under which [her father] "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert, in the presence of "Idæ uxoris meæ et fratris eius Nicolai de Ham generi mei et filiarum mearum Cæciliæ et Agnetis"[708].  The listing of those present in this document suggests that the donor may have had three daughters, with “Nicolai de Ham generi mei” representing his wife who would have been Héribrand’s oldest daughter and the two younger daughters (both of whom were presumably unmarried at the time) acting in their own names.  This interpretation of the document is not beyond doubt.  m NICHOLAS de Han-sur-Liesse, son of GODEFROI de Han-sur-Liesse & his wife Helwide ---.  Châtelain de Bouillon.] 

ii)         CECILE .  "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert by charter dated 25 May 1189, in the presence of "Idæ uxoris meæ et fratris eius Nicolai de Ham generi mei et filiarum mearum Cæciliæ et Agnetis"[709]

iii)        AGNES .  "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert by charter dated 25 May 1189, in the presence of "Idæ uxoris meæ et fratris eius Nicolai de Ham generi mei et filiarum mearum Cæciliæ et Agnetis"[710]

b)         THIERRY .  His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 25 May 1189 under which his brother "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert, naming "Henrici nepotis mei advocati præfati altaris…Theodorico fratre meo de Turri et Arnulpho sororio meo de Monte Sancti Martini…patris nostri Theoderici et matris nostræ Mathildis"[711]

c)         daughter .  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 25 May 1189 under which his brother "Herbrannus Buloniensis castellanus" donated property at Noyers to Ardenne Saint-Hubert, naming "Henrici nepotis mei advocati præfati altaris…Theodorico fratre meo de Turri et Arnulpho sororio meo de Monte Sancti Martini…patris nostri Theoderici et matris nostræ Mathildis"[712]m ARNOUL de Mont-Saint-Martin, son of ---. 

 

 

 

C.      SEIGNEURS de NEUFCHÂTEL [en Ardenne]

 

 

The castle of Neuchâtel-en-Ardenne was first recorded in 741.  Einhard records that, after the death of Charles “Martel” in 741, his widow incited her son Grifo to rebel against his older half-brothers, during the course of which Charles’s oldest son Carloman imprisoned Grifo "in Novo-castello...juxta Arduennam", adding that it was said that Grifo remained imprisoned there until Carloman left for Rome (dated to late 747)[713].  The Royal Frankish Annals also record that Grifo rebelled, incited by his mother, but was defeated at Laon and imprisoned by Carloman at Neufchâtel in the Ardennes[714]

 

 

1.         HUGUES (-before Jun 1239).  m as her first husband, LUCIE Dame de Marliers, Châtelaine de Mézières, daughter of --- (-after Oct 1239).  “Lucie dame de Marliers et chastelainne de Maisieres et...Thiebuas ses fix sires dou Nuefchastel en Ardenne” founded the chapel of Saint-Bale near Donchéry by charter dated Mar 1229[715].  “Lucie dame de Marliers et Thiebaus mes filz sires del Nufchastel” committed to make donations to Orval, for the anniversary of “monsignor Huon mon mari”, by charter dated Jun 1239[716].  She married secondly Aubry de Certisy.  “Bauduins sire d’Autri” granted property “au bois d’Arches, la moitiè de ce je avoie ancontre monsignor Aubri de Certisi et madame de Marliers sa femme” to “Huon conte de Retest” by charter dated Oct 1239[717].  Hugues & his wife had one child: 

a)         THIEBAUT de Neuchâtel (-after Sep 1271).  Seigneur de Neufchâtel [en Ardenne].  “Lucie dame de Marliers et chastelainne de Maisieres et...Thiebuas ses fix sires dou Nuefchastel en Ardenne” founded the chapel of Saint-Bale near Donchéry by charter dated Mar 1229[718].  “Lucie dame de Marliers et Thiebaus mes filz sires del Nufchastel” committed to make donations to Orval, for the anniversary of “monsignor Huon mon mari”, by charter dated Jun 1239[719].  Seigneur de Marliers, châtelain de Mézières, Seigneur de Vrigne.  “Thiebaus sires de Marliers chastellains de Maisieres et sires de Vrigne” confirmed donations of property made “puis le deces de madame ma mere” to Saint-Bale by charter dated 30 Apr 1258[720].  “Thiebaus sires de Marliers et de Nuefchestial” donated harvest to Orval, for the souls of “...mes enfans”, with the consent of “ma femme Katherine, de Arnut mon filh”, by charter dated Sep 1271[721]m CATHERINE, daughter of --- (-after Sep 1271).  “Thiebaus sires de Marliers et de Nuefchestial” donated harvest to Orval, for the souls of “...mes enfans”, with the consent of “ma femme Katherine, de Arnut mon filh”, by charter dated Sep 1271[722].  Thierry & his wife had children: 

i)          ARNAUD .  “Thiebaus sires de Marliers et de Nuefchestial” donated harvest to Orval, for the souls of “...mes enfans”, with the consent of “ma femme Katherine, de Arnut mon filh”, by charter dated Sep 1271[723]

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de RESSON

 

 

Resson is located about 5 kilometres east of the town of Rethel. 

 

 

1.         VILAIN d’Aulnay, son of --- (-after May 1247).  Seigneur de Resson, presumably inherited from his wife’s family which has not been traced.  “Villanus de Alneto armiger dominus de Resson” confirmed that “Richard maire de Rethel et Marie sa femme” sold part of “decima de Pargny et de Resson” to Reims Saint-Nicaise by charter dated May 1247[724]

 

2.         VILAIN de Resson (-after Nov 1283).  “...Monseigneur Vilain de Resson et Monseigr Renaut de Resson chevaliers” are  named among fiefholders of “Jehan d’Olizy chevalier” who swore allegiance to Reims Saint-Nicaise by charter dated Nov 1283[725].  The proximity of their names in this document suggests that Vilain and Renaud may have been brothers of first cousins.  same person as...?  VILAIN de Resson (-before 13 Feb 1323).  The chronology suggests that this Vilain de Resson may have been the same as the person named in Nov 1283.  m ALIX de Lalobbe, daughter of [ARNAUD [II] de Beaufort Seigneur de Séry et de Lalobbe & his wife Cécile de Séry et de Lalobbe] (-after 13 Feb 1323).  Aalis de lo Boe [corrected to “de la Lobe” in the manuscript], femme jadis à noble homme mons. Villain jadis chevalier seigneur de Resson” confirmed holding property “en la ville de Pergny” by charter dated 13 Feb 1323[726].  The chronology suggests that Alix may have been another daughter of Arnaud [II] de Beaufort.  If that is correct, her absence from her supposed mother’s 29 Sep 1305 testament could be explained if she was already married at the time.  Vilain & his wife had one child: 

a)         --- de Resson (-after 25 Mar 1323)Renaus chevaliers sires de Lor et chastelains de Laon” confirmed holding property “en la terre de Resson pour cause de la dame de Lor nostre compaigne”, as well as half the property held by “madame Aalis jadis femme à nostre...seingneur mons. Villain jadis seingneur de Resson” as dower, by charter dated 25 Mar 1323[727]m ([before 1295?]) RENAUD de Lor, son of --- (-killed in battle Cassel [23/24] Aug 1328, bur Saint-Bertin). 

 

3.         RENAUD de Resson (-before Dec 1303).  “...Monseigneur Vilain de Resson et Monseigr Renaut de Resson chevaliers” are  named among fiefholders of “Jehan d’Olizy chevalier” who swore allegiance to Reims Saint-Nicaise by charter dated Nov 1283[728].  The proximity of their names in this document suggests that Vilain and Renaud may have been brothers of first cousins.  m AGNES, daughter of ---.  She is named in the charter of her son dated Dec 1303.  The primary source which confirms her family origin has not been identified.  Renaud & his wife had one child: 

a)         ERNOUS de Resson .  “Ernous de Resson écuyer” ratified the foundation of a chapel, by “Messire Renaud de Resson chevalier son père et dame Agnès sa mère” for the souls of “damoisele Hermine, damoisele Isabial et Simon, jadis curé de Pargny”, by charter dated Dec 1303[729]

 

 

 

E.      SEIGNEURS de ROZOY

 

 

Rozoy-sur-Serre is located in the present-day French département of Aisne, north-west of Rethel.  In 877, Rozoy lay within the sphere of influence of the newly-founded abbey of Compiègne Saint-Corneille: Charles I “le Chauve” King of the West Franks founded the abbey of Compiègne, and recorded donations including the donation of “in pago Noviomensi...duas partes decimæ de Andriaco villa...Cincinniaco, Aminiaco, Vienna, Roseto, Salmuntiaco, Antiniaco...”, by charter dated 5 May 877[730].  In the early 11th century, Rozoy was under the jurisdiction of the kings of the West Franks under the lordship of the ecclesiast Helgaud whose tomb at Laon Saint-Vincent records “Hilgaudus dominus de Roseto clericus[731].  Adalbero Bishop of Laon confirmed that “homo devotus Hilgadus” founded the church of Saint-Laurent “in Rozeti suo allodio”, with the authorisation of “principibus Francorum Roberto”, by charter dated 1018, quoted in a charter dated 1114[732].  No further corroborated reference to a seigneur de Rozoy has been found until the appearance of Clarembaud in a charter dated 1129, as shown below.  Clarembaud must have been a personage of some prominence in his local area to have married the widow of the comte de Rethel, who was also the daughter of the comte de Namur.  No indication has been found of his parentage or earlier background.  Boeren discusses the properties of the seigneurie de Rozoy and how they were inherited by the Oudenaarde/Rethel/Louvain families after the death of Roger [II] Seigneur de Rozoy[733]

 

 

1.         CLAREMBAUD de Rozoy (-before 1158)Seigneur de Rozoy.  “Clérembaud et sa femme seigneurs de Rozoy” consented to donations “situés à Pommereux et à Moranzy, commune d’Agnicourt” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 1129[734]The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Clarembaldus de Roseto” donated property to Bucilly in 1135[735]"Gofridus...de Ribodi-monte et Ansellus filius eius, Henricus comes [...Novi-castri], Clarembaudus et Elisabeth uxor eius" founded the monastery of Signy "in territorio Signiacensi et apud sanctum Petrum super Veel, Libercei, Membiis, Drezia et Harlivilla",  and confirmed the donations of land “in...Roseto” by “Clarembaldus” by charter dated 1135[736].  The bishop of Laon confirmed donations made to Tournai Saint-Martin by “Clarembaldus de Roseto” in compensation for damage caused, for the souls of himself “et filii sui Roberti”, by charter dated 1142[737]m (before 1129) as her second husband, ELISABETH de Namur, widow of GERVAIS Comte de Rethel, daughter of GODEFROY I Comte de Namur & his first wife Sibylle de Château-Porcien (-after 1148).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis" as wife of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" (recording that he resigned as archbishop of Reims and married), specifying that her mother was "Sibilla filia comitis Rogeri Porcensis", and recording her second marriage with "Clarembaldus de Roseto " and their children "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia que ex nobili viro Philippo de Altaripa genuit Mathildem quam habuit Windus Doiscenus [Doische, Namur, Philippeville?] et de Erpens [Erpent, Namur?]"[738].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two sisters of "Alidem…Godefridi comitis Namurcensis et Ermesendis comitisse filiam" as "una [uxor] dominus de Roseto, alia [uxor] domino de Spinoit", in a later passage clarifying that the two sisters were daughters of "Henrici comitis" by his first wife[739].  “Clérembaud et sa femme seigneurs de Rozoy” consented to donations “situés à Pommereux et à Moranzy, commune d’Agnicourt” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 1129[740].  "Gofridus...de Ribodi-monte et Ansellus filius eius, Henricus comes [...Novi-castri], Clarembaudus et Elisabeth uxor eius" founded the monastery of Signy "in territorio Signiacensi et apud sanctum Petrum super Veel, Libercei, Membiis, Drezia et Harlivilla",  and confirmed the donations of land “in...Roseto” by “Clarembaldus” by charter dated 1135[741].  Barthélemy records that, after the death of Roger Comte de Porcien, Henri [I] Comte de Grandpré inherited part of his assets “qui forma le fief de Château-Porcien” and as such confirmed donations made by his predecessors to Cuissy by charter dated 1134 and together with “la petite-fille de Roger qui avait épousé Clérembaud de Rosoy” donated Notre-Dame de Château-Porcien to Reims Saint-Nicaise by charter dated 1148[742].  Clarembaud & his wife had [six] children: 

a)         ROBERT de Rozoy (-after 1142).  The bishop of Laon confirmed donations made to Tournai Saint-Martin by “Clarembaldus de Roseto” in compensation for damage caused, for the souls of himself “et filii sui Roberti”, by charter dated 1142[743]

b)         RENAUD de Rozoy (-before 1190).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia..." as the children of "Clarembaldus de Roseto" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis"[744]Seigneur de Rozoy

-        see below

c)         ROGER de Rozoy (-1201)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia..." as the children of "Clarembaldus de Roseto" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis"[745].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Raynaldum…[et] Rogerum Laundune nsem episcopum et filias Alidem…Egidio de Cymaco maritatem et Annchelisam viro nobili in comitatu Namurcensi maritatam Philippo…de Altaripa" as children of "domino Rogero de Roseto" and his Namur wife[746]Bishop of Laon 1174.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1201 the deaths of "Cathalaunensis Rotroldus et Laudunensis Rogerus episcopi, qui fuit patruus Rogeri de Roseto, cui succedit quidam Renaldus"[747]

d)         ALIDE de Rozoy .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia..." as the children of "Clarembaldus de Roseto" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis"[748].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Raynaldum…[et] Rogerum Laundunensem episcopum et filias Alidem…Egidio de Cymaco maritatem et Annchelisam viro nobili in comitatu Namurcensi maritatam Philippo…de Altaripa" as children of "domino Rogero de Roseto" and his Namur wife, specifying that Roger married "Iuliana filia Nicholay de Ruminio" by whom he was father of "Rogerum"[749]m GILLES de Chimay, son of ALARD [IV] de Chimay & his wife Ida de Coucy (-after 1172). 

e)         ANCHELISE de Rozoy .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia que ex nobili viro Philippo de Altaripa genuit Mathildem quam habuit Windus Doiscenus [Doische, Namur, Philippeville?] et de Erpens [Erpent, Namur?]" as the children of "Clarembaldus de Roseto" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis"[750]m PHILIPPE de Hauterive, son of ---. 

f)          [--- .  It is probable that the mother of Elisabeth was one of the sisters of Bishop Roger who are named above.]  m ---.  One child: 

i)          ELISABETH (-after 1185).  A charter of Vauclair dated 1185 names "Ingelranni de Bova et Elizabeth uxoris eius neptis Rogeri Laudunensis episcopi"[751]m as his first wife, ENGUERRAND [II] de Coucy Seigneur de Boves, son of ROBERT de Coucy Seigneur de Boves & his wife Beatrix de Saint-Pol --- (-[1222/24]). 

 

 

RENAUD de Rozoy, son of CLAREMBAUD Seigneur de Rozoy & his wife Elisabeth de Namur (-before 1190).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Raynaldum…Rogerum..episcopus Laudunensis…et sorores eius…Aeliz de Cimeco, altera Alfelisia..." as the children of "Clarembaldus de Roseto" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam comitis Godefridi Namucensis"[752]Seigneur de Rozoy.  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Raynaldum…[et] Rogerum Laundunensem episcopum et filias Alidem…Egidio de Cymaco maritatem et Annchelisam viro nobili in comitatu Namurcensi maritatam Philippo…de Altaripa" as children of "domino Rogero de Roseto" and his Namur wife, specifying that Renaud married "Iuliana filia Nicholay de Ruminio" by whom he was father of "Rogerum"[753].  A charter dated 1153 confirmed the foundation of Bonnefontaine by "Nicolaus de Rumigniaco", with the consent of "filio suo Godefrido quem de prima uxore suscepit, et uxore eius Aelide, cum filiis suis Balduino archidiacono et Nicolao", and the donation made by “Rainaldus...de Roseto[754].  “Rainaldus dominus de Roseto” donated “aisentias totius terre mee in aquis in plantis in nemoribus et in pascuis” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “Juliane uxoris me et liberorum meorum Roberti et Elisabeth”, by charter dated 1171[755].  The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “…Rogerus [presumably an error for Rainaldus] de Roseto, de feodo de Chaorse, Rogerus de Rosai filius…” in De Sparnaco[756]The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Nicolaus dominus de Rumigniaco” settled disputes with the church of Bucilly in 1181, with the agreement of “Hugo frater ipsius Nicolai”, and with “dominus Jacobus de Guisia, dominus Raynaldus de Roseto et dominus Nicolaus de Barbenchon” as guarantors[757]

m JULIANE de Rumigny, daughter of NICOLAS [III] Seigneur de Florennes et de Rumigny & his wife Eva de Chièvres (-after Jan 1211).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Raynaldum…[et] Rogerum Laundunensem episcopum et filias Alidem…Egidio de Cymaco maritatem et Annchelisam viro nobili in comitatu Namurcensi maritatam Philippo…de Altaripa" as children of "domino Rogero de Roseto" and his Namur wife, specifying that Renaud married "Iuliana filia Nicholay de Ruminio" by whom he was father of "Rogerum"[758].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Iulianum…Raynaldo de Roseto maritatem de quo…Rogerum et Clementiam [uxor] Gerardo de Haslut et Yolandem [uxor] Henrici de Hirge et advocato Hasbaniensi et apud Winti in Flandria" as daughters of "Nicholaus qui et Ruminium et Florinas castra posedit" & his wife[759].  “Rainaldus dominus de Roseto” donated “aisentias totius terre mee in aquis in plantis in nemoribus et in pascuis” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “Juliane uxoris me et liberorum meorum Roberti et Elisabeth”, by charter dated 1171[760].  A charter dated 1190 records the rights of “la commune des Autels” and that “Nicholaus dominus de Rumigniaco” noted that “soror mea Juliana et nepos meus Rogerus dominus de Roseto cum fratre suo Nicholao sub manum mean cub cujus tutela erant” had promised to respect the provisions[761].  "Rogerus dominus de Rozeto" confirmed the relinquishment of property in favour of Compiègne Saint-Corneille made by “Juliana mater mea et Nicholaus frater meus”, at the request of “domini Ingelranni de Cociaco comitis de Pertico”, by charter dated 1205[762].  "Nicholaus frater domini Rogeri de Roseto...et Juliana mater mea" renounced rights in “nemorum de Estraon” in favour of Compiègne Saint-Corneille by charter dated 1205[763].  Dame de Baucigny/Bancigny [Vervins, Aisne, Picardie].  "Juliana domina de Bancegnies" sold rights “in nemoribus de Estrahon” to Compiègne Saint-Corneille by charter dated 1205[764].  Roland explains Juliane holding this seigneurie because “elle était donc déjà veuve à cette date et avait son douaire sur la terre de Bancigny[765].  This explanation is not entirely satisfactory as the charter dated 1190 quoted above shows that Juliane was already a widow at that date, but no subsequent documents name her “dame de Bancigny”.  It is unlikely that Juliane held Bancigny through an otherwise unrecorded second marriage as she passed the territory to her children by her husband Renaud de Rozoy.  “Nicholaus de Roseto” agreed to restore damage caused to the church of Reims, with “matrem meam Julianam dominam de Baucigni, dominum et fratrem meum Rogerum de Roseto, Gaucherum de Rumigniaco et Colinum fratrem eius” as guarantors, by charter dated Jan 1210 (O.S.)[766]

Renaud & his wife had four children: 

1.         ROBERT de Rozoy (-after 1171).  “Rainaldus dominus de Roseto” donated “aisentias totius terre mee in aquis in plantis in nemoribus et in pascuis” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “Juliane uxoris me et liberorum meorum Roberti et Elisabeth”, by charter dated 1171[767]

2.         ELISABETH de Rozoy (-after 1220).  “Rainaldus dominus de Roseto” donated “aisentias totius terre mee in aquis in plantis in nemoribus et in pascuis” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “Juliane uxoris me et liberorum meorum Roberti et Elisabeth”, by charter dated 1171[768].  “Elisabeth de Rosoy dame de Château-Porcien...file de Renaud de Rosoy, fils d’Enguerrand des Boves” compensated Signy “considérant que son mariage avait été la cause de ces torts” and wishing that “elle et sa fille participassent aux prières des moines” by charter dated 1206[769].  The reference to “Enguerrand des Boves” is not understood.  “Elisabeth de Rosoi dame de Château-Porcien” confirmed donations made to Signy by her ancestors and donated “le droit de silvagio dans les bois de Signy” by charter dated 1207[770].  “Elisabeth de Rosoi dame de Château-Porcien” confirmed donations made to Signy by “Clerembaud et Elisabeth ses grand’père et mère” by charter dated Apr 1207[771].  “Elisabeth de Rosoy dame de Château-Porcien” donated “une somme...sur sa maison de Grand-champ” to Signy by charter dated 1220[772]m GEOFFROY Seigneur de Château-Porcien, son of GEOFFROY [I] de Grandpré Seigneur de Château-Porcien & his wife Alix de Bazoches (-[1196/1207]). 

3.         ROGER [I] de Rozoy (-before Jan 1235).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Raynaldum…[et] Rogerum Laundunensem episcopum et filias Alidem…Egidio de Cymaco maritatem et Annchelisam viro nobili in comitatu Namurcensi maritatam Philippo…de Altaripa" as children of "domino Rogero de Roseto" and his Namur wife, specifying that Renaud married "Iuliana filia Nicholay de Ruminio" by whom he was father of "Rogerum"[773].  The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “…Rogerus [presumably an error for Rainaldus] de Roseto, de feodo de Chaorse, Rogerus de Rosai filius…” in De Sparnaco[774].  Seigneur de Rozoy.  A charter dated 1190 records the rights of “la commune des Autels” and that “Nicholaus dominus de Rumigniaco” noted that “soror mea Juliana et nepos meus Rogerus dominus de Roseto cum fratre suo Nicholao sub manum mean cub cujus tutela erant” had promised to respect the provisions[775].  "Rogerus dominus de Rozeto" confirmed the relinquishment of property in favour of Compiègne Saint-Corneille made by “Juliana mater mea et Nicholaus frater meus”, at the request of “domini Ingelranni de Cociaco comitis de Pertico”, by charter dated 1205[776].  Philippe II King of France confirmed an agreement between the monks of Saint-Denis and Roger de Rozoi” concerning “la maison de Chaourse” by charter dated [Oct] 1207[777]Nicholaus de Roseto” agreed to restore damage caused to the church of Reims, with “matrem meam Julianam dominam de Baucigni, dominum et fratrem meum Rogerum de Roseto, Gaucherum de Rumigniaco et Colinum fratrem eius” as guarantors, by charter dated Jan 1210 (O.S.)[778].  “Roger de Rozoy” renounced claims over revenue in favour of Signy “pour après la mort de sa femme Alix” by charter dated 1212[779]Arnoul d’Oudenarde” guaranteed the loyalty of “Daniel de Masquelines”, with the consent of “Roger de Rozoi son seigneur”, by charter dated [Jul 1215][780].  Seigneur de Chaumont: Rogerus dominus Roseti in Tereschia” declared holding “castrum meum de Chaumont” from Blanche Comtesse de Troyes and her son and declared himself her vassal except for his obligations to the king of France, the bishop of Laon and the abbot of Saint-Denis by charter dated Jan 1220[781].  “Henri comte de Salm et Clémence sa femme” discharged “Roger Sr de Chaumont et Alix sa femme de moitié de la dot de Clémence” by charter dated 1227[782].  His absence from the Jan 1234 (O.S.?) document which names his wife and son, quoted below, suggests that Roger [I] was deceased at the time.  m (before 1212) ALIX d’Avesnes, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-after Jul 1237).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that "Aelidis secunda filia" married "domino Rogero de Rosoy" by whom she had one son and four daughters and naming their descendants[783].  Her marriage is dated by the following document: “Roger de Rozoy” renounced claims over revenue in favour of Signy “pour après la mort de sa femme Alix” by charter dated 1212[784]...A. domina de Roseta et Rogerus filius eius...” and others requested the archbishop of Reims to confirm their agreement regarding the Flanders succession by charter dated [Feb] 1235, confirmed before 8 Apr 1235 by the archbishop[785]Mathildis domina de Rumegny” donated “duo diurnalia vinearum apud Ars” to Orval, with the consent of “abbas Aureævallis et soror mea de Rosoir”, by charter dated Jul 1237[786].  Roger & his wife had five children: 

a)         ROGER [II] de Rozoy (-killed in battle Fariskur 6 Apr 1250).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Rogerus" as the son of "Aelidis secunda filia...[Jacobus]" and "domino Rogero de Rosoy", adding that he was childless by his three marriages and was killed “in prælio ubi captus fuit Rex Ludovicus[787]...A. domina de Roseta et Rogerus filius eius...” and others requested the archbishop of Reims to confirm their agreement regarding the Flanders succession by charter dated [Feb] 1235, confirmed before 8 Apr 1235 by the archbishop[788]Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[789].  “Roger Sr de Chaumont et de Rosoy chevalier et Alix sa femme” renounced rights in favour of Signy by charter dated Jun 1246[790].  “Rogiers sires de Rosoy et de Chaumont” granted rights to the inhabitants of Rozoy, with the consent of “Aelis ma famme”, by charter dated May 1249[791]m firstly SOPHIE de Pinon, daughter of ROBERT de Coucy Seigneur de Pinon & his [first/second wife Elisabeth de Pierrepont/Gode Dame de Raineval].  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Rogerus", son of "Aelidis secunda filia...[Jacobus]" and "domino Rogero de Rosoy", married firstly “filiam domini Roberti de Couchi[792]m secondly --- von Heinsberg, daughter of [DIRK [I] Heer van Valkenburg, Herr von Heinsberg & his second wife Beatrix ---].  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Rogerus", son of "Aelidis secunda filia...[Jacobus]" and "domino Rogero de Rosoy", married secondly “filiam domini de Hensberghe in Alemannia[793].  The father of this daughter has not been identified positively.  From a chronological point of view, he could have been Dirk [I] Heer van Valkenburg, Herr von Heinsberg.  If that is correct, it appears more likely that she was born from his second marriage.  m thirdly ALIX de Montmorency, daughter of [BOUCHARD Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Isabelle de Laval] (-after May 1249).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Rogerus", son of "Aelidis secunda filia...[Jacobus]" and "domino Rogero de Rosoy", married thirdly “filiam domini de Montmorenchi in Francia[794].  From a chronological point of view, it appears likely that she was the daughter of Bouchard Seigneur de Montmorency.  Her name is indicated by the following documents: “Roger Sr de Chaumont et de Rosoy chevalier et Alix sa femme” renounced rights in favour of Signy by charter dated Jun 1246[795].  “Rogiers sires de Rosoy et de Chaumont” granted rights to the inhabitants of Rozoy, with the consent of “Aelis ma famme”, by charter dated May 1249[796]

b)         ALIX de Rozoy (-after Feb 1265).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Rogeri soror primogenita...Aelidis" married "domino Arnulpho de Audenarde" and had one son and one daughter[797].  "Arnouls dis sires d’Oudenarde et Aelis" his wife granted revenue to "Jean de Rethel" on his marriage to "leur fille Marie", by charter dated Nov 1235[798].  Under a codicil dated Aug 1242, “Arnould d’Audenarde” appointed as his executors “Eustache de Rœux chevalier son cousin, Bauduin de Mervenghien, Alix sa femme, Robert de Saint-Jacques et Eustache de Gand, frère cordeliers[799].  “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[800].  Heiress of Rozoy.  Aelidis domina quondam de Audenarde et nunc domina de Lessines” donated property to "ecclesiæ de Cantiprato", for the soul of "bonæ memoriæ Arnoldi quondam mariti", by charter dated 1259[801].  “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde et domina de Lesines” donated property “in tenemento de Baffia” to Cambron, with the consent of “Johannis filii mei”, by charter dated Feb 1264 (O.S.)[802]m firstly ARNOUD [IV] Heer van Oudenaarde, son of GISELBERT Heer van Oudenaarde & his wife Richilde de Tournai (-after Aug 1242).  m secondly (before 1259) --- de Lesines, son of ---. 

c)         JULIANE de Rozoy (-after 1251).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "secunda filia domini Rogeri de Rosoic ac dominæ Aelidis...Juliana" married "domino Goberto de Asperomonte" and had four sons and two daughters[803].  “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[804].  “Gobert d’Apremont et Julienne sa femme fille de feu Roger de Rosoy l’aîné” acknowledged receipt from “Roger de Rosoy frère de Julienne” relating to “les alleux de leur père à Dizy, Fraillecourt, Reneville” by undated charter[805].  This document is dated to [1270] in the compilation which is impossible in view of the date of death of Juliane’s husband.  “Juliana domina de Duno quondam uxor Goberti domini Asperimontis” acknowledged that “Johannes li Bois de Duno fidelis meis” had renounced claims in favour of Orval, by charter dated May 1239[806].  “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[807].  m (before 1221) GOBERT [VI] d’Aspremont, son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Elisabeth de Dampierre (-before May 1239). 

d)         CLEMENCE de Rozoy ([1195/1212]-after 28 Mar 1285).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "tertia filia domini Rogeri de Rosoic...Clementia" married "comiti de Salmis in Ardenna" and had one son (“Guilelmus” who married “filiam comitis Juliacensis Wilelmi”) and one daughter (who married “domino de Ayste” who predeceased his father, but had “filium...Robertum” although the land was inherited by “eius patruum dominum Joffredum”)[808].  The chronology of her family suggests that Clémence was born in [1195/1220], her marriage date before 1227 narrowing the range to [1195/1212].  “Henri comte de Salm et Clémence sa femme” discharged “Roger Sr de Chaumont et Alix sa femme de moitié de la dot de Clémence” by charter dated 1227[809].  “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[810].  Clémence’s involvement in the following three charters suggests that her dowry was Montcornet and Montloué.  “Henris cuens de Saumes, sires de Montcornet et de Manloueis et...Climence sa feme” agreed a payment to the monks at Laval-Roy should they be disturbed in the possession of property with they had donated to them “a Manloueiz” by charter dated Oct 1250[811].  “Henris, cons” and “Clamence contesse de Sames” confirmed a donation to the monks of Sainte-Catherine de Houffalize made by “Johant dit Copechod, de Cereu” by charter dated 6 Aug 1255[812].  “Henricus comes de Seaumes et dominus de Monte Cornuto et de Manloués et Clementia uxor eius comitissa et domina eorundem locorum et Willelmus eorundem filius” confirmed donations at “Monte Cornuto” made to the monks of Montreuil en Thiérache by charter dated Mar 1256 (O.S.)[813].  “Henris cuens de Syames et Climance sa feme contesse de Syaumes” declared owing “son relief” to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “la tierce partie de Chaumont qui fu mon signor Rogier de Resei nostre frere” by charter dated Jun 1257[814].  “Climence comtesse de Saumes dame de Montcornet et de Manloueiz” confirmed the donation of harvest to Laval-Roy “a Manloueiz” made by “ie et mes sires li cuens Henris de Saumes” by charter dated 21 Jul 1259[815].  “Climence contesse de Saumes dame de Montcornet” confirmed the establishment of boundaries of land in Montcornet in favour of Laval-Roy by charter dated May 1267[816].  “Clémence contesse de Saumes et dame de Montcornet” sold “touz noz bois...en Ostourmont” to Philippe III King of France by charter dated Feb 1270[817].  A charter dated 28 Mar 1285 records that Henri de Louvain Seigneur de Herstal declared that his brother Arnaud had guaranteed his lands at “Brunhiamés...[et] en la chastelrie de Rosoit en Tyraische” to “Clémenche contesse de Sames” to assure payment for “Montcornet” which she had sold[818]m HEINRICH [III] Graf von Salm, son of --- (-[Jun 1257/21 Jul 1259]). 

e)         --- de Rozoy .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "quarta filia...domini Rogeri de Rosoic" was "abbatissa...apud monasterium in Theoracia"[819]

4.         NICOLAS de Rozoy (-after Jan 1211).  A charter dated 1190 records the rights of “la commune des Autels” and that “Nicholaus dominus de Rumigniaco” noted that “soror mea Juliana et nepos meus Rogerus dominus de Roseto cum fratre suo Nicholao sub manum mean cub cujus tutela erant” had promised to respect the provisions[820].  "Rogerus dominus de Rozeto" confirmed the relinquishment of property in favour of Compiègne Saint-Corneille made by “Juliana mater mea et Nicholaus frater meus”, at the request of “domini Ingelranni de Cociaco comitis de Pertico”, by charter dated 1205[821].  "Nicholaus frater domini Rogeri de Roseto...et Juliana mater mea" renounced rights in “nemorum de Estraon” in favour of Compiègne Saint-Corneille by charter dated 1205[822].  “Nicholaus de Roseto” agreed to restore damage caused to the church of Reims, with “matrem meam Julianam dominam de Baucigni, dominum et fratrem meum Rogerum de Roseto, Gaucherum de Rumigniaco et Colinum fratrem eius” as guarantors, by charter dated Jan 1210 (O.S.)[823]m ---.  The name of Nicolas’s wife is not known.  Nicolas & his wife had one child: 

a)         JULIANE de Rozoy (-before 23 Sep 1240, bur Cambron).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  m (contract Feb 1237) as his first wife, GAUTHIER [III] Seigneur de Ligne, son of GAUTHIER [II] Seigneur de Ligne & his first wife Marguerite de Fontaines-l’Evêque (-[1295]). 

 

 

1.         RAOUL de Rozoy (-after 1247).  “Raoul de Rosoy et Alix sa femme” renounced rights in favour of Signy by charter dated 1247[824]m ALIX, daughter of ---.  “Raoul de Rosoy et Alix sa femme” renounced rights in favour of Signy by charter dated 1247[825]

 

2.         GILLES de Rozoy (-after May 1257).  Seigneur de Château-Porcien.  “Gilles de Rosoy Sr de Château-Porcien et Isabelle sa femme” renounced claims in favour of Signy by charter dated May 1257[826]m ISABELLE [de Château-Porcien], daughter of [RAOUL Seigneur de Château-Porcien & his wife Agnes ---] (-after May 1257).  Barthélemy records her parentage and first marriage with “Jacques de Montchâlons” without citing any primary source on which this information is based[827].  “Gilles de Rosoy Sr de Château-Porcien et Isabelle sa femme” renounced claims in favour of Signy by charter dated May 1257[828]

 

 

 

F.      SEIGNEURS de SEDAN

 

 

The following reconstruction of this family is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking to other families studied in Medieval Lands.  The information has not been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated. 

 

 

EBERHARD von der Mark, son of EBERHARD von der Mark Seigneur de Lumain, Avoué de Hesbaie & his wife Marie de Looz-Agimont (-14 Oct 1440).  Seigneur de Lummen, Avoué de Hesbaie.  Seigneur de Neufchâteau.  Seigneur de Sedan: Eberhard bought the seigneurie de Sedan in 1424 from his brother-in-law Louis Seigneur de Braquemont[829]

m firstly (5 Aug 1405) MARIE de Braquemont, widow of JEAN de Dargies Seigneur de Béthencourt, daughter of GUILLAUME de Braquemont & his wife ---. 

m secondly (contract 12 Mar 1418) AGNES de Rochefort Dame de Rochefort, de Montaigu et d’Agimont, daughter of JEAN [III] Seigneur de Rochefort et d’Agimont & his wife Marguerite d’Autel (-22 Mar 1441, bur Saint-Rémy). 

Eberhard [Evrard] & his first wife had children: 

1.         JEAN [I] de la Marck (-after 1480).  Seigneur de Sedan.  Seigneur d’Arenberg.  m (1443) AGNES von Virneburg, daughter of ROBERT [IV] Graf von Virneburg & his second wife Agnes von Solms.  Jean [I] & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT de la Marck (-killed siege of Yvoy 1489)Seigneur de Sedan.  Duc de Bouillon: Robert bought the pledge of the duchy of Bouillon from his younger brother Guillaume Seigneur de Lumain [1483][830]

-        DUCS de BOUILLON

b)         EVRARD de la Marck (-19 Jun 1506).  Seigneur d’Arenberg. 

-        SEIGNEURS d’ARENBERG

c)         GUILLAUME de la Marck (-beheaded Maastricht Jun 1485).  Seigneur de Lumain.  Guillaume supported the people of Liège in their rebellion against Charles Duke of Burgundy and Louis de Bourbon Bishop of Liège and was rewarded, by treaty dated at Tongres 22 May 1483, by Jan van Horn Bishop of Liège, the sum awarded being guaranteed by a pledge of the duchy of Bouillon (which Guillaume sold to his older brother Robert)[831].  He was captured by Maximilian Archduke of Austria, and tried at Maastricht where he was beheaded. 

-        SEIGNEURS de LUMAIN[832]

d)         ADOLPHE de la Marck m as her first husband, MARIE de Hamal, daughter of GUILLAUME de Hamal Seigneur d’Elderen & his wife Jeanne de Merode (-after 1559).  She married secondly Guillaume de Croÿ, Duca di Soria, Markies van Aarschot.    

e)         APOLLONIA de la Marck (-1540)m firstly DIRK van Palant, son of --- (-1481).  m secondly ERKINGER [II] von Seinsheim Herr von Schwarzenberg, son of MICHAEL [III] von Seinsheim & his wife Margareta von Hutten (-1518). 

2.         ELISABETH de la Marck m GEORG von Sayn Graf von Wittgenstein, son of ---. 

Eberhard [Evrard] & his second wife had children: 

3.         EVRARD de la Marck .  Seigneur de Rochefort. 

4.         LOUIS de la Marck (-1498).  Seigneur de Rochefort. 

-        SEIGNEURS de ROCHEFORT

 

 

 

G.      DUCS de BOUILLON

 

 

The following reconstruction of this family is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking to other families studied in Medieval Lands.  The information has not been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated. 

 

 

ROBERT [I] de la Marck, son of JEAN [I] de la Marck Seigneur de Sedan, Seigneur d’Arenberg & his wife Agnes von Virneburg (-killed siege of Yvoy 1489).  Seigneur de Sedan.  Seigneur de Florenges.  Duc de Bouillon: Robert bought the pledge of the duchy of Bouillon from his younger brother Guillaume Seigneur de Lumain [1483][833]

m ([1449]) JEANNE de Marlay dite du Saulx, daughter of COLART de Marlay Seigneur de Saulx & his wife ---. 

Robert [I] & his wife had children: 

1.         ROBERT [II] de la Marck (-1536)Duc de Bouillon.  Seigneur de Sedan.  m (1491) CATHERINE de Croÿ, daughter of PHILIPPE de Croÿ Comte de Chimay & his wife Walpurga von Mörs (-1544).  Robert [II] & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT [III] de la Marck dit le maréchal de Marck (-Longjumeau 21 Dec 1536, bur Sedan Saint-Laurent).  Maréchal de France 1526.  Duc de Bouillon 1536.  m (Vigny 1 Jun 1510) GUILLEMETTE de Commercy, daughter of ROBERT [II] de Commercy Comte de Braine, Seigneur de Commercy [Saarbrücken] & his wife Marie d’Amboise (-Château de Braine 20 Sep 1571, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Robert [III] & his wife had one child: 

i)          ROBERT [IV] de la Marck (-1556)Duc de Bouillon

-         see below

2.         ERARD de la Marck (-Liège 16 Feb 1538, bur Liège Cathedral).  Bishop of Liège.  Bishop of Chartres.  Cardinal. 

 

 

ROBERT [IV] de la Marck, son of ROBERT [III] de la Marck Duc de Bouillon & his wife Guillemette de Commercy (-1556).  Duc de Bouillon Maréchal de France, Seigneur de Sedan. 

m (Paris, Le Louvre 19 Jan 1538) FRANÇOISE de Brezé Ctss de Maulévrier, daughter of LOUIS de Brézé Comte de Maulevrier & his second wife Diane de Poitiers [later Dss de Valentinois] (-1574, bur Saint-Yved de Braine). 

Robert [IV] & his wife had children: 

1.         HENRI ROBERT de la Marck (7 Feb 1539-2 Dec 1574)Duc de Bouillon, Prince de Sedan.  m (contract Paris 7 Feb 1558) FRANÇOISE de Bourbon, daughter of LOUIS de Bourbon Duc de Montpensier & his first wife Jacqueline de Longwy Ctss de Bar-sur-Seine (-1587).  Henri Robert & his wife had children: 

a)         GUILLAUME ROBERT de la Marck (Sedan 1 Jan 1562-Geneva 1 Jan 1588).  Duc de Bouillon, Prince de Sedan. 

b)         JEAN de la Marck (4 May 1564-6 Oct 1587).  Comte de la Marck. 

c)         CHARLOTTE de la Marck (5 Nov 1574-Château de Sedan 15 May 1594)Duchesse de Bouillonm (contract 15 Oct 1591) as his first wife, HENRI de la Tour Vicomte de Turenne, son of FRANÇOIS [III] de la Tour Vicomte de Turenne & his wife Eléonore de Montmorency (Joze en Auvergne 28 Sep 1555-Sedan 25 Mar 1623, bur Sedan).  Duc de Bouillon, Prince de Sedan. 

2.         CHARLES ROBERT de la Marck (-Sep 1622, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Maulévrier et de Braine. 

-        COMTES de MAULEVRIER, COMTES de BRAINE[834]

3.         ANTOINETTE de la Marck (25 Mar 1542-Château de Pezenas 1591)m (contract Escouen 26 Jan 1558) as his first wife, HENRI [I] de Montmorency, son of ANNE Duc de Montmorency & his wife Madeleine de Savoye (Chantilly 15 Jun 1534-la Grange de Pezenas, Languedoc 2 Apr 1614, bur Montmorency Saint-Martin).  Duc de Montmorency 1579. 

4.         GUILLEMETTE de la Marck (26 Sep 1545-1592, bur Ligny)m firstly (1558) JEAN de Luxembourg Comte de Brienne et de Ligny, son of ANTOINE de Luxembourg Comte de Brienne et de Ligny & his wife Marguerite de Savoie (-Brienne 1 Jul 1576, bur Ligny-en-Barrois).  m secondly (5 Aug 1579) GEORGES EPAMINONDAS de Bauffremont Comte de Croisilles, son of ---. 

5.         DIANE de la Marck (16 Jun 1544-after 2 May 1612)m firstly (contract 6 Jan 1558) JACQUES de Clève Seigneur d’Orval, son of FRANÇOIS Duc de Nevers & his first wife Marguerite de Bourbon (1 Oct 1544-Montigny near Lyon 6 Sep 1564).  Marquis d’Isle 1560.  He succeeded his brother in 1563 as Duc de Nevers, Comte d’Eu, Comte de Rethel.  m secondly (17 May 1570) HENRI de Clermont Comte de Clermont et de Tonnerre, son of ANTOINE de Clermont Comte de Clermont & his wife Françoise de Poitiers de Saint-Vallier (-killed in battle La Rochelle Apr 1573).  m thirdly (7 Dec 1579) JEAN Babou Comte de Sagonne, son of JEAN Babou Seigneur de la Bourdaisière & his wife Françoise Robertet. 

 

 

HENRI de la Tour, son of FRANÇOIS [III] de la Tour Vicomte de Turenne & his wife Eléonore de Montmorency (Joze en Auvergne 28 Sep 1555-Sedan 25 Mar 1623, bur Sedan).  The testament of “François de la Tour vicomte de Turenne”, dated 13 Aug 1557, appointed as his heir “Henry de la Tour mon fils et de dame Leonor de Montmorency jadis mon espouse[835]Vicomte de Turenne.  The testament of “Magdeleine de la Tour comtesse de Tende vefve de feu...Honorat de Savoye”, dated 11 Jun 1580, chose burial “en l’eglise de Montmorency prez de ses parents”, and appointed “M. le Vicomte de Turenne son frere” as her heir[836]Duc de Bouillon 1591.  Maréchal de France Mar 1592.  

m firstly (contract 15 Oct 1591) CHARLOTTE de la Marck Duchesse de Bouillon, daughter of HENRI ROBERT de la Marck Duc de Bouillon, Prince de Sedan & his wife Françoise de Bourbon (5 Nov 1574-Château de Sedan 15 May 1594). 

m secondly (The Hague 15 Apr 1595) ELISABETH Pss van Oranje, Gräfin von Nassau, daughter of WILLEM I "Taciturnus/the Silent" Prins van Oranje Graf von Nassau, Stadhouder of the Netherlands & his third wife Charlotte de Bourbon-Montpensier (Middelburg 26 Mar 1577-Sedan 3 Sep 1642, bur Sedan). 

Henri & his second wife had seven children: 

1.         MARIE de la Tour ([1599/1600]-Thouars 24 May 1665)m (contract Sedan 9 Feb 1619) her maternal first cousin, HENRI de la Trémouïlle Duc de Thouars, son of CLAUDE de La Trémoïlle Duc de Thouars & his wife Charlotte Brabantina Pss van Oranje Gräfin von Nassau (1599-Château de Thouars 21 Jan 1674, bur Thouars). 

2.         JULIENNE CATHERINE de la Tour (-Oct 1638)m (contract 13 Dec 1627) FRANÇOIS de la Rochefoucauld Comte de Roye et de Roucy, son of CHARLES de la Rochefoucauld Comte de Roucy & his wife Claude de Gontaut-Biron. 

3.         ELISABETH de la Tour (-1 Dec 1685)m (contract 17 Sep 1619) GUY ALDONCE de Durfort Marquis de Duras et de Lorges, son of JACQUES de Durfort Marquis de Duras & his wife Marguerite de Montgommery Dame de Lorges. 

4.         FREDERIC MAURICE de la Tour (Sedan 22 Oct 1605-Pontoise 9 Aug 1652, bur Evreux Saint-Taurin, transferred to Cluny).  Prince de Sedan.  Duc de Bouillon 1623.  m (contract 1 Feb 1634) ELEONORE CATHERINE FEBRONIE de Berghes Ctss de Berghes, daughter of FREDERIC Comte de Berghes & his wife Françoise de Ravenel (-[1614/15]-9 Aug 1657, bur Evreux Saint-Taurin, transferred to Cluny).  Frédéric Maurice & his wife had children: 

a)         ELISABETH de la Tour (Maastricht 11 May 1635- Paris 23 Oct 1680)m (20 May 1656) as his second wife, CHARLES de Lorraine, son of CHARLES de Lorraine Duc d’Elbœuf & his wife Catherine Henriette de Bourbon Mademoiselle de Vendôme (1620-Paris 4 May 1692, bur Paris, église des Dominicains du Faubourg Saint-Jacques).  He succeeded his father in 1657 as Duc d'Elbœuf, pair de France.  He succeeded in 1675 as Duc de Guise. 

b)         LOUISE CHARLOTTE de la Tour (Sedan 1638-16 May 1683).  Mademoiselle de Bouillon. 

c)         AMELIE de la Tour (Maastricht 1640-1696 or 1698).  Nun at Paris, Carmélites du Faubourg Saint-Jacques 1660. 

d)         GODEFROI MAURICE de la Tour (21 Jun 1641-25 Jul 1721, bur Evreux)Duc de Bouillon

-        see below

e)         FREDERIC MAURICE de la Tour (Lanquais 15 Jan 1642-Paris 23 Nov 1707, bur Carmélites du Faubourg Saint-Jacques).  Comte d’Auvergne et d’Oliergues 1675. 

-        COMTES d’AUVERGNE

f)          EMMANUEL THEODOSE de la Tour (24 Aug 1644-Rome 7 Mar 1715).  Cardinal.  Grand Aumônier de France. 

g)         HYPOLITE de la Tour (Rome 11 Feb 1645-).  Nun at Paris, Carmélites du Faubourg Saint-Jacques. 

h)         CONSTANTIN IGNACE de la Tour (Rome 10 Mar 1646-3 Oct 1670).  Knight of Malta.  Duc de Château-Thierry.  Chevalier de Bouillon. 

i)          HENRY IGNACE de la Tour (Paris 2 Feb 1650-killed Colmar 20 Feb 1675).  Comte d’Evreux.  Knight of Malta.  Chevalier de Bouillon. 

j)          MAURICIENNE FEBRONIE de la Tour (Munich 30 Sep 1638-Türkheim, Swabia 20 Mar 1705, bur Munich St Michael)Mademoiselle de Bouillon dite Pss d'Evreuxm (Château-Thierry 24 Apr 1668) MAXIMILIAN Herzog von Bayern, Landgraf von Leuchtenberg, son of MAXIMILIAN I Elector of Bavaria & his second wife Maria Anna Archduchess of Austria (Munich 30 Sep 1638-Türkheim, Swabia 20 Mar 1705, bur Munich St Michael)

5.         HENRIETTE CATHERINE de la Tourm (contract 11 Apr 1629) AMAURY Goyon Marquis de la Houssaye, Comte de Quintin, son of ---. 

6.         HENRI de la Tour (Sedan 11 Sep 1611-killed in battle 27 Jul 1675, bur Saint-Denis).  Vicomte de Turenne.  Maréchal de France.  m (1653) CHARLOTTE de Caumont, daughter of ARMAND de Caumont Duc de la Force & his first wife Jeanne de la Rochefaton Dame de Saveilles ([1622/23]-Paris 13 Apr 1666). 

7.         CHARLOTTE de la Tour (-Jul 1662). 

 

 

GODEFROI MAURICE de la Tour, son of FREDERIC MAURICE de la Tour Duc de Bouillon & his wife Eléonore Catherine Fébronie de Berghes (21 Jun 1641-25 Jul 1721, bur Evreux)Duc de Bouillon

m (Paris Le Louvre 20 Apr 1662) MARIA ANNA Mancini, daughter of MICHELE LORENZO Mancini & his wife Geronima Mazzarino (Rome 1649-Paris 21 Jun 1714). 

Godefroi Maurice & his wife had children: 

1.         LOUIS de la Tour (16 Jan 1665-Enghien 4 Aug 1692).  m (1691) as her first husband, ANNE GENEVIEVE de Levy-Ventadour, daughter of LOUIS CHARLES de Levy Duc de Ventadour & his wife Charlotte Eléonore Madeleine de la Mothe-Houdancourt.  She married secondly Hercule Mériadec de Rohan. 

2.         EMMANUEL THEODOSE de la Tour (1668-1730)Duc de Bouillon.  Grand Chambellan de France.  m firstly (1 Feb 1696) MARIE ARMANDE VICTOIRE de la Trémoïlle, daughter of CHARLES BELGIQUE HOLLANDE de la Trémoïlle Duc de Thouars & his wife Madeleine de Créquy (1677-5 Mar 1717, bur Paris église des Capucines).  m secondly (4 Jan 1718, defect in formalities corrected 13 Apr 1719) LOUISE FRANÇOISE ANGELIQUE le Tellier, daughter of LOUIS MARIE le Tellier Marquis de Barbezieux & his wife Marie Thérèse Delphine d’Alegre (-8 Jul 1719, bur Theatins).  m thirdly (26 May 1720) ANNE MARIE CHRISTINE de Simiane-de-Moncha de Gordes, daughter of FRANÇOIS LOUIS CLAUDE EDME de Simiane Comte de Moncha & his wife Anne Thérèse de Simiane de Gordes (-8 Aug 1722).  m fourthly (21 Mar 1725) LOUISE HENRIETTE FRANÇOISE de Lorraine, daughter of ANNE MARIE JOSEPH de Lorraine Prince de Guise, Comte d’Harcourt & his wife Marie Louise Christine de Castille-Montjeu.  Emmanuel Théodose & his first wife had children: 

a)         ARMANDE de la Tour (28 Aug 1697-13 Apr 1717)m (23 Feb 1716) LOUIS de Melun Prince d’Epinoy, Duc de Joyeuse, son of LOUIS de Melun Prince d’Epinoy & his wife Elisabeth de Lorraine-Lillebonne. 

b)         FREDERIC MAURICE CASIMIR de la Tour (24 Oct 1702-Strasbourg 1 Oct 1723).  Prince de Turenne.  m (Neus, Silesia by proxy 25 Aug 1723, in person Strasbourg 20 Sep 1723) as her first husband, MARIA CHARLOTTE Sobieska Pss of Poland, daughter of JAKUB LUDWIK Sobieski Prince of Poland and his wife Hedwig Elisabeth Amalie Pss von Pfalz-Neuburg (1697-1740).  Père Anselme records her parentage and first and second marriages[837]

c)         MARIE HORTENSE VICTOIRE de la Tour (27 Jan 1704-)m (29 Jan 1725) CHARLES ARMAND RENE de la Trémoïlle Duc de Thouars, son of CHARLES LOUIS BRETAGNE de la Trémoïlle Duc de Thouars & his wife Marie Madeleine de la Fayette (Jan 1708-). 

d)         CHARLES GODEFROI de la Tour (16 Jul 1706-Château de Montalet 24 Oct 1771)Duc de Bouillon 1730.  Grand Chambellan de France 1728 to 1747.  m (Papal dispensation 6 Mar 1724, 2 Apr 1724) as her second husband, MARIA CHARLOTTE Sobieska Pss of Poland, widow of FREDERIC MAURICE CASIMIR de la Tour Prince de Turenne, daughter of JAKUB LUDWIK Sobieski Prince of Poland and his wife Hedwig Elisabeth Amalie Pss von Pfalz-Neuburg (1697-1740).  Père Anselme records her parentage and first and second marriages[838].  Charles Godefroi & his wife had one child: 

i)          MARIE LOUISE HENRIETTE JEANNE de la Tour (15 Aug 1725-1793).  Mademoiselle d’Auvergne.  m JULES HERCULE MERIADEC de Rohan Prince de Guémenée Duc de Montbazon, son of ---. 

ii)         GODEFROI CHARLES HENRI de la Tour (Paris 27 Jan 1728-Château de Navarre, near Evreux 3 Dec 1792).  Prince de Turenne.  Duc de Bouillon.  Duc d’Albret.  Duc de Château-Thierry.  Comte d’Evreux.  Grand Chambellan de France 1747 to 1775.  m firstly LOUISE HENRIETTE de Lorraine, daughter of --- (1718-1788).  m secondly (Evreux 23 May 1789) MARIE FRANÇOISE HENRIETTE de Banastre, daughter of --- (1775-1816).  Godefroi Charles Henri & his first wife had children: 

(a)       JACQUES LEOPOLD de la Tour (15 Jan 1746-7 Feb 1802).  Prince de Turenne.  Duc de Bouillon 1792.  m (Carlsburg 17 Jul 1766) MARIA HEDWIG ELEONORA Gräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rotenburg, daughter of KONSTANTIN Landgraf von Hessen-Rheinfels zu Eschwege und Rotenburg & his first wife Sophie Gräfin von Starhemberg  (Rotenburg 26 Jun 1748-Paris 25 Jul 1801, bur Paris). 

3.         EUGENE MAURICE de la Tour (29 Mar 1669-21 Nov 1672, bur Evreux). 

4.         FREDERIC JULES de la Tour (2 May 1672-after 1725).  Knight of Malta. 

5.         HENRI LOUIS de la Tour (-after 1708).  Comte d’Evreux. 

6.         LOUISE JULIE de la Tour m (22 Jun 1698) FRANÇOIS ARMAND de Rohan dit le prince de Montbazon, son of CHARLES de Rohan Prince de Guemené, Duc de Montbazon & his wife Charlotte Elisabeth de Cochefilet-Vauvineux. 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 5.    GRANDPRE

 

 

The town of Grandpré is located about 40 kilometres south-east of Rethel, and about the same distance north-west of Verdun, in the present-day French département of Ardennes, arrondissement Vouziers, canton Attigny.  The county of Grandpré emerged in the western part of the county of Dormois (see UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY), covering the cantons of Vienne le Château, Grandpré, Buzancy, Dun and Varennes.  Anatole de Barthélemy provides a more detailed description of the geographical extent of the county and its constituent parts[839]Miroy notes that the château de Grandpré was destroyed by fire in 1834, along with its archives, and attempted to reconstruct its history using other available sources[840]

 

 

 

A.      COMTES de GRANDPRE

 

 

HENRI [I], son of HENRI [Hezelin] Comte & his wife --- de Porcien (-[1148/51]).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.  Comte de Grandpré.  Comte de Château-Porcien: Barthélemy records that, after the death of Roger Comte de Porcien, Henri inherited part of his assets “qui forma le fief de Château-Porcien” and as such confirmed donations made by his predecessors to Cuissy by charter dated 1134 and together with “la petite-fille de Roger qui avait épousé Clérembaud de Rosoy” donated Notre-Dame de Château-Porcien to Reims Saint-Nicaise by charter dated 1148[841]

m ERMENTRUDE [de Joux], daughter of [CONON "Falcon" de Grandson & his wife Aelis de Ramerupt].  Three different sources specify somewhat different versions of the parentage of Ermentrude.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ebalum et…episcopum Laudunensem Bartholomeum et eorum sorores" as children of "Aeliz de Sarrata in Burgundia", specifying that one sister married "Henrico comiti de Grandi prato"[842].  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "unam sororum domni Bartholomei" as wife of "Henricus de Grandi-prato"[843].   The Miraculis S. Mariæ Laudunensis names "Ermentrudis" as one of "aliis filiis et filiabus" of Foulques de Joux and his wife, adding that she married "Henricus comes de Grandiprato"[844].  It is possible that Ermentrude was the sister of Ebles [I] de Grandson, although the reference to “Joux” has not been clarified. 

Henri [I] & his wife had [five] children: 

1.         HENRI [II] de Grandpré (-[1188/90], bur Foigny)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum" as son "Henrico comiti de Grandi prato" & his wife, specifying that he was buried "in Fusneio"[845]Comte de Grandpré.  Henri [II] Comte de Grandpré donated fishing rights in the Aisne to the prior of Saint-Thomas, with the consent of “Henry son fils”, by charter dated 1176, signed by “Raynaud de Sommepy frere du comte...[846]"Henricus comes Grandiprati, Gaufridus frater eius, Willelmus de S. Maura" subscribed a charter dated 1179 under which "Henricus comes Palatinus Trecensis" donated property to the church of St Marie, Josaphat[847]Henri [II] Comte de Grandpré with Thibaut I Comte de Bar founded “une ville neuve...Beaufort” six kilometres west of Stenay on the Wiseppe by charter dated 1188[848].  He was recorded as deceased in the 1190 charter of his son cited below.  [m [firstly] BEATRIX de Joinville, daughter of ROGER Seigneur de Joinville & his wife Aldearde de VignoryThe Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Gaufridum Grossum Robertum et Guidonem episcopum Cathalaunensem et Beatricem comitissam de Grandiprato" as children of "Rogerus de Iovevilla Gaufridi filius" & his wife[849].  No other source has been identified which records Beatrix as the wife of a Comte de Grandpré.  If Alberic is correct, the chronology suggests that Beatrix’s husband was Henri [II] Comte de Grandpré, possibly as his first wife.]  m [secondly] LIUTGARD de Luxembourg, daughter of GUILLAUME I Comte de Luxembourg & his wife Luitgard von Beichlingen (-9 Mar [before 1170], bur Grandpré Saint-Médard).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names the wife of "Henricus Waflart comes Grandi-prati" as "comitissam de Luceleburch"[850].  Heiress of Luxembourg: the Chronicon Hanoniense refers to "Willelmi comitis de Lusceleborch…filiam…uxor comes de Grandi-Prato" when recording that her first cousin "Henricus comes Namurcensis" challenged her succession in Luxembourg after her father died[851].  Barthélemy records that Henri [II] received “des droits sur le comté de Thionville, la vouerie de Saint-Maximin de Trèves et de Saint-Willebrod d’Eternach” from his wife, without citing the source which confirms the information[852].  The necrology of Reims Saint-Denis records the death “VII Id Mar” of “Leucardis comitissa de Grandi Prato” and the donation of “allodium de Femuis” made by “Henricus maritus eius” to “sancto Medardo[853].  Barthélemy says that Liutgard died “avant 1170” and was buried as Grandpré Saint-Médard, without citing the source which confirms the information[854].  Henri [II] & his [second] wife had three children: 

a)         HENRI [III] de Grandpré (-1211).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Henricum…agnomine Wafflart" as son of "Willelmi comitis de Lusceleborch…filiam…uxor comes de Grandi-Prato"[855]Comte de Grandpré

-        see below

b)         ROBERT de Grandpré (-1217).  Père Anselme suggests that Robert Bishop of Verdun, whom “Wassebourg dit avoir été du sang et de la maison de Grandpré...[et] que le même auteur marque que la chronique de l’abbaye d’Orval le nomme oncle du comte de Grandpré [=Henri [III]”, could have been the son of Comte Henri [I][856].  From a chronological point of view, it is more likely that Robert was the son of Comte Henri [II] as one of the objections to his appointment was his youth (see below).  Bishop of Verdun 1208.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1208 that “Robertus primicerius patruus comitis de Grandiprato” succeeded as bishop of Verdun “post multas altercaciones, sive iuste, sive iniuste” after “episcopus Albertus de Hirges” was killed[857].  The Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium (Continuatio) records that “Albertum thesaurarium” and “Robertum de Grandi-prato” were chosen as bishop of Verdun by different factions, and that Albert was favoured “in curia imperatoris” but was killed, leaving the succession to “Robertus primicerius[858].  The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record that “Albertus episcopus” was killed (“lancea interemptus”) in 1208 and succeeded by “Robertus primicerius[859].  Robert was elected bishop of Verdun in 1208, opposed by “Theodoric doyen de la même église et Herbert d’Yvoys chanoine, sur ce qu’il n’avoit pas l’âge competant et sur défaut de litterature”: his election was annulled at Rome 1216, Robert dying within six months at Verdun in 1217[860].  The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record the death in 1217 of “Robertus episcopus Virdunensis” and the succession of “Iohannes de Aspero-monte, qui fundavit monasterium sancti Nicolai in Prato[861]

c)         --- de Grandpré (-before 26 May 1163).  A charter dated 26 May 1163 records that Pope Alexander III instructed Henri Archbishop of Reims to settle a dispute between the abbeys of Reims Saint-Remy and Montiérender and require “aux chanoines de Grandpré de restituer à Saint-Remy le corps d’un fils du comte de Grandpré[862]

2.         GEOFFROY de Grandpré (-after 1179)"Henricus comes Grandiprati, Gaufridus frater eius, Willelmus de S. Maura" subscribed a charter dated 1179 under which "Henricus comes Palatinus Trecensis" donated property to the church of St Marie, Josaphat[863]Seigneur de Château-Porcien et de Balham. 

-        SEIGNEURS de CHÂTEAU-PORCIEN et de BALHAM

3.         RENAUD de Grandpré (-after 1176).  Henri [II] Comte de Grandpré donated fishing rights in the Aisne to the prior of Saint-Thomas, with the consent of “Henry son fils”, by charter dated 1176, signed by “Raynaud de Sommepy frere du comte...[864].  Seigneur de Sommepy. 

4.         ROBERT de Grandpré (-after 1163).  Barthélemy records his parentage and ecclesiastical appointment[865].  Archdeacon at Chalon 1150-1163. 

5.         [ALIX de Grandpré The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Henricum et Adelidem" as children of "Henricus de Grandi-prato" & his wife, specifying that Alix married firstly "Godefrido de Durbuil, frater comitis de Namuco et comitis de Rupe" and secondly "Godefrido de Aissa"[866].   This suggested parentage of the wife of “Godefrido de Durbuil” is far from satisfactory.  As can be seen above, the careers of Alix´s supposed brothers extended towards the end of the 12th century, whereas Alix herself could not have been born much later than the early 1200s considering that she is recorded with three children by her first husband who must have died before 1124.  Another possibility is that Alix was the sister, not daughter, of Comte Henri [II].  "Veneranda Adelidis, germana dicti Henrici, nupsit comiti Godefrido de Durbuil, frater comitis de Namuco et comitis de Rupe.  De quo peperit Richardum Laudunensem atque Virdunensem archidiaconum, fratrem quoque eius Henricum et sororem eius Adelidem sanctimonialem.  Defuncto autem Godefrido de Durbuil, predicta Adelidis nupta Godefrido de Aissa peperit Robertum Fusniacensem abbatem et Henricum, Fredericum atque Bartholomeum necnon Ermengardem.  Alteram Bartholomei episcopi sororem duxit Erchenbaldus vicecomes de Mascuns, de qua genuit Hugonem thesaurarium Remensis ecclesie et Stephanum monachum, Ertaldum, Erchembaldum et sorores eorum.  Ertaldus genuti equivocum sibi Ertaldum.  Quedam soror Ertaldi Amedeo de Alta-ripa peperit Amedeum Lausanensem episcopum.  Terciam sororem domni Bartholomei duxit Trombertus de Alta-villa, de qua genuit Wibertum et fratrem eius.  Quartam duxit Paganus de Sancci, que filias habuit.  Quintam duxit Berlo de Mureno"[867]m firstly [GODEFROI/HENRI] Comte de Durbuy, son of HENRI [I] de Namur Comte de Durbuy & his wife --- (-before 1124).  m secondly ([before 1124]) GOTTFRIED [II] von Esch an der Sauer, son of ---.] 

 

 

HENRI [III] de Grandpré, son of HENRI [II] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Liutgard de Luxembourg (-1211).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Henricum…agnomine Wafflart" as son of "Willelmi comitis de Lusceleborch…filiam…uxor comes de Grandi-Prato"[868].  Henri [II] Comte de Grandpré donated fishing rights in the Aisne to the prior of Saint-Thomas, with the consent of “Henry son fils”, by charter dated 1176[869]Comte de Grandpré.  Henri [III] Comte de Grandpré confirmed donations made by his father to Grandpré priory, and recorded a donation made by his grandfather, by charter dated 1190[870]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1211 that “comes Henricus de Grandiprato” died after taking the cross “contra Albigenses[871]

m firstly as her second husband, MELISENDE [Agnes/Isabelle] de Coucy, widow of RAOUL Comte de Roucy, daughter of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his first wife Agnes de Hainaut.  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Agnes married firstly "Radulpho comiti de Roci", by whom she was childless, and secondly "comiti de Grandiprato"[872].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[873].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married "monseigneur Raoul conte de Rousci" who died childless, and secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre"[874]

m secondly as her first husband, ADA d'Avesnes, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-after 13 Aug 1249).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that she married "comiti de Grandi-prato"[875]The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not yet been identified.  Heiress of Hans.  She married secondly ([1211/15]) as his third wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes takes a different view of the parentage of the wife of Raoul Comte de Soissons, recording that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married "monseigneur Raoul conte de Rousci" who died childless, and secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre" by whom she had the son named below and a daughter who married “au conte Raoul de Soissons[876].  Dame de Hans.  The Feoda Campanie dated [after 1234] includes “...comitissa Suessionensis domina de Hans…feodum apud Minor(cort) apud Ve(rgig)ni apud Ver[z]lius et apud Lemezicort…[877].  “Ada domina de Hans, quondam comitissa Suessionensis” acknowledged the homage given by her to “Theobaldo regi Navarræ et comiti Campaniæ" by charter dated Dec 1238[878].  Ada dame de Hans notified Thibaut Comte de Bar that “Helvis de Barbançon sa bru” had received as dower “la moitié de la terre de Hans et de la maison qui fut le peire mon fils” by charter dated 13 Aug 1249[879]

Comte Henri [III] & his first wife had one child: 

1.         HENRI [IV] (-1229).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Henricum" as only son of "comiti de Grandi-prato" by his first wife, adding that he succeeded his father[880]Comte de GrandpréMiroy records that Henri [IV] and his wife Marie de Gralande granted charters, dated in a later passage to Aug 1213, in favour of the town of Grandpré which have not survived[881].  The Annales Mosamagenses record the death in 1229 of “Henricus comes de Grandiprato[882]m as her first husband, MARIE de Garlande, daughter of GUILLAUME [V] de Garlande Seigneur de Livry & his wife Adela de Châtillon-sur-Marne (-after 1259).  Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1217 under which “Johannes comes Bellimontis” agreed the succession of “domino Guillelmo de Gallandia” with “Henricus comes Grandiprati…et Guidonem buticularium”, which states that he had married the deceased´s oldest daughter and the other two his second and third daughters respectively[883].  Her name is confirmed by the Apr 1236 charter quoted below.  Père Anselme records her marriage “avant le mois d’août 1213[884].  She married secondly ([Aug 1230], divorced 1232) Geoffroy de Joinville Seigneur de Montclair.  Her second marriage is confirmed by the following document: "Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne" declared that Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne guaranteed the dowry granted by "ledit Simon et par Geoffroy son fils" for "Marie comtesse de Grandpré, épouse de Geoffroy", by charter dated Aug 1230[885].  Père Anselme records her second marriage, adding that she and her second husband were separated[886].  She married thirdly ([1232/35]) Anséric [IV] Seigneur de Montréal.  “Ansericus dominus Montisregalis” confirmed the charter, made by “bone memorie Anserici quondam domini Montisregalis avi mei” in favour of Reigny with the consent of “Sibylla uxor mea”, with the consent of “uxor mea Maria dicta comitissa Grandisprati domina Montisregalis” by charter dated Apr 1236[887].  Comte Henri [IV] & his wife had three children: 

a)         HENRI [V] (-1287 after 7 Apr)Comte de Grandpré.  Henri Comte de Grandpré and Isabelle his wife donated property to the lepers at Royon by charter dated May 1237[888].  "Henricus comes Grandisprati, jure hereditario nomine...domine Isabellis uxoris ipsius comitis sororis...Erardi de Brena domini Rameruci" donated property "apud Nogentum supra Ausum", sold to them by “dictus dominus Erardus”, to Montiéramey by charter dated Apr 1250[889]"Henricus comes Grandi prati" confirmed donations to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp made by “filii nostri Henrici militis domini de Livriaco et Lore de Monteforti dicti filii nostri uxoris”, with the consent of “magister Petrus de Meullento canonicus Cathalaunensis consanguineus meus et Radulfus de Passiaco avunculus meus”, by charter dated May 1267[890]Henri comte de Grandpré” and “Henri chevalier fils d’Henri comte de Grandpré” requested the consent of Henri III Comte de Champagne to the transfer of “la châtellenie de Buzancy” to the suzerainty of the comte de Bar by two charters dated Mar 1272 (O.S.)[891].  “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[892].  “Henris cuens de Grant Prei et...Henris annez filz le conte de Grant Prei et...Jehans filz au dit conte de Grant Prei sires de Busancy” agreed not to sell “Grant Prei ne la chastelerie de Grant Prei...Manre“ by charter dated 8 Apr 1280[893].  Henri [V] Comte de Grandpré “et Henri son fils” reached agreement with the archbishop of Reims concerning “la châtellenie de Maure” by charter dated 7 Apr 1287[894]m (before May 1237) ISABELLE de Brienne, daughter of ERARD de Brienne Seigneur de Ramerupt & his second wife Philippa of Jerusalem [Champagne] (-[21 Aug 1274/Feb 1277]).  A manuscript history of the abbey of la Piété de Rameru records that Erard de Brienne married three of his daughters, of whom "la seconde...Madame Ysabeaus fu comtesse de Grant-pré en Lorraine"[895].  Henri Comte de Grandpré and Isabelle his wife donated property to the lepers at Royon by charter dated May 1237[896].  "Henricus comes Grandisprati, jure hereditario nomine...domine Isabellis uxoris ipsius comitis sororis...Erardi de Brena domini Rameruci" donated property "apud Nogentum supra Ausum", sold to them by “dictus dominus Erardus”, to Montiéramey by charter dated Apr 1250[897].  Henri [V] Comte de Grandpré committed to obtain the consent of Isabelle to an agreement made by him, by charter dated 21 Aug 1274[898].  Henri [V] Comte de Grandpré approved a transaction made by “sa femme alors défunte” to an agreement made by him, by charter dated Feb 1277[899].  Comte Henri [V] & his wife had four children: 

i)          HENRI de Grandpré ([1235/40?]-1287 after 7 Apr, bur Grandpré)"Henricus comes Grandi prati" confirmed donations to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp made by “filii nostri Henrici militis domini de Livriaco et Lore de Monteforti dicti filii nostri uxoris”, with the consent of “magister Petrus de Meullento canonicus Cathalaunensis consanguineus meus et Radulfus de Passiaco avunculus meus”, by charter dated May 1267[900]Henri comte de Grandpré” and “Henri chevalier fils d’Henri comte de Grandpré” requested the consent of Henri III Comte de Champagne to the transfer of “la châtellenie de Buzancy” to the suzerainty of the comte de Bar by two charters dated Mar 1272 (O.S.)[901].  Seigneur de Livry: “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[902].  “Henris cuens de Grant Prei et...Henris annez filz le conte de Grant Prei et...Jehans filz au dit conte de Grant Prei sires de Busancy” agreed not to sell “Grant Prei ne la chastelerie de Grant Prei...Manre“ by charter dated 8 Apr 1280[903].  Henri [V] Comte de Grandpré “et Henri son fils” reached agreement with the archbishop of Reims concerning “la châtellenie de Maure” by charter dated 7 Apr 1287[904].  Barthélemy records that Henri predeceased his father and was buried “dans l’église du prieuré de Grandpré[905]m firstly (before Dec 1267) as her second husband, LAURE de Montfort Dame d'Epernon, widow of Infante don FERNANDO de Castilla Comte d’Aumâle, daughter of AMAURY [VII] de Montfort ex-Duc de Narbonne & his wife Beatrix de Viennois [Bourgogne-Capet] (-before Aug 1270, bur Abbaye Saint-Antoine-lès-Paris).  "Ferrandus…regis Hyspanie filius, heres Pontivil et dominus Sparnonis ac miles et domina Laura de Monteforti eiusdem Sparnonis domina eius uxor" issued letters to the priory of Saint-Thomas d´Epernon by charter dated Feb 1261[906].  "Henricus de Grandiprato miles dominus de Lyvriaco et Laura de Monteforti eius uxor domina de Sparnone" donated property to the priory of Saint-Thomas d´Epernon by charter dated Dec 1267[907]"Henricus comes Grandi prati" confirmed donations to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp made by “filii nostri Henrici militis domini de Livriaco et Lore de Monteforti dicti filii nostri uxoris”, with the consent of “magister Petrus de Meullento canonicus Cathalaunensis consanguineus meus et Radulfus de Passiaco avunculus meus”, by charter dated May 1267[908]m secondly (before Dec 1273) ISABELLE de Durbuy, daughter of GERARD van Limburg Seigneur de Durbuy & his wife Mechtild von Kleve (-after 28 Mar 1304).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[909].  “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[910].  She was named in her son’s 1304 charters quoted below, which also confirm her parentage and marriage.  Henri & his second wife had one child: 

(a)       GERARD de Grandpré (-[Aug 1352/21 Nov 1356]).  Despite his seniority in the dynastic line, Gérard was passed over in the succession to the county of Grandpré in favour of his paternal uncle after the death of his grandfather, presumably because of his youth.  Seigneur de Houffalize, de iure uxoris.   

-         SEIGNEURS de HOUFFALIZE

(b)       two or more sons (before 1287-after 29 Mar 1304).  Their existence is confirms by the 1304 charters quoted above under their brother Gérard. 

(c)       two or more daughters (before 1287-after 29 Mar 1304).  Their existence is confirms by the 1304 charters quoted above under their brother Gérard. 

ii)         JEAN [I] ([1250/55?]-[May 1313/24 Nov 1314], bur Verdun Saint-Paul).  Seigneur de Buzancy: “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[911].  He succeeded his father in 1287 as Comte de Grandpré

-         see below

iii)        ISABELLE (-before 4 Apr 1292).  “Dominus Nicholaus dominus de Cherbogne comes Regitestensis et domina Ysabella comitissa Regitestensis eius uxor” sold revenue “de Maceriis” to “Johanni dicto La Pance civi Remensi” by charter dated Feb 1280[912]m firstly (before 8 Oct 1275) [as his third wife,] HUGUES [IV] Comte de Rethel, son of MANASSES [IV] Comte de Rethel & his wife Isabelle --- (-[8 Oct 1275/1277]).  m secondly (before 1277) NICOLAS de Charbogne, son of ---.  He adopted the title Comte de Rethel

iv)       MARGUERITE (-after 1 Apr 1325).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, naming the couple’s son “Philippe de Bourlande écuyer” to whom Jeanne Ctss de Nevers et de Rethel donation various lands “le qualifiant son cousin, à condition de retour faute d’hoirs à Marguerite de Grandpré sa mère, que la comtesse qualifie sa tante” by charter dated 1 Apr 1325[913]m --- de Bolandre, son of ---. 

b)         JEAN de Grandpré .  Barthélemy names Jean as second son of Comte Henri [IV], noting that he was named with his father in a charter for Clairmarais abbey (undated)[914]

c)         ALIX (-before 1261, bur Benoîtevaux).  "Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne" declared that Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne had letters relating to the proposed marriage between "Jean, fils de Simon et de Béatrix, fille d'Etienne comte d'Auxonne" and "Alix, fille de Marie comtesse de Grandpré", by charter dated 11 Aug 1230[915].  Given Jean de Joinville’s estimated date of birth, it is unlikely that this marriage took place before the mid-1340s.  Barthélemy records her burial “dans l’abbaye de Benoîtevaux[916]m (contract 11 Aug 1230, [1245]) as his first wife, JEAN de Joinville, son of SIMON Seigneur de Joinville & his second wife Beatrix d'Auxonne [Bourgogne-Comté] ([1224/25]-24 Dec 1317, bur Saint-Laurent de Joinville).  Seigneur de Joinville.  Seneschal de Champagne. 

Comte Henri [III] & his second wife had four children: 

2.         JACQUES (-before 13 Aug 1249).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato…primogenitus filiorum Jacobus" (by his second wife) succeeded his father "in terra de Hans in Campania"[917].  Seigneur de Hans. 

-        SEIGNEURS de HANS

3.         GEOFFROY de Grandpré (-1247 or after).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato" had two sons and two daughters (who were childless) by his second wife, adding that the second son "Joffridus…clericus" was made "episcopus Cathalaunensis"[918].  Provost at Montfaucon.  Bishop of Châlons 1237.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1239 that “183 Bulgri” were burned “ebdomada ante pentecostem...apud Mont Wimer qui ab antiquo Mons Wedomari dicitur” in the presence of “Remensis archiepiscopus Henricus...electus Cathalaunensis Gaufridus patruus comitis de Grandiprato...[919]

4.         daughter .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato" had two sons and two daughters (who were childless) by his second wife[920].  Nun. 

5.         daughter .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato" had two sons and two daughters (who were childless) by his second wife[921]same person as...?  YOLANDE de Grandpré (-7 Mar 1259).  Barthélemy names “Yolande femme de Pierre seigneur de Bayonville, morte le 7 mars 1259” as daughter of Henri [III] Comte de Grandpré, noting a charter of Ada her mother dated 1212 which refers to but does not name her[922]m PIERRE Seigneur de Bayonville, son of ---. 

 

 

JEAN [I] de Grandpré, son of HENRI [V] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Isabelle de Brienne ([1250/55?]-[May 1313/24 Nov 1314], bur Verdun Saint-Paul).  His birth date is estimated from his earliest mention in 1273, when he was presumably a young adult.  Jean was probably several years younger than his brother Henri: the Dec 1273 charter quoted below names no wife of Jean, suggesting that he was unmarried, while his brother is named with his second wife in the same document.  Seigneur de Buzancy: Barthélemy records charters dated 27 Mar 1273, Aug 1275, 24 Dec 1281, and 1 Apr 1284 in which he is named as seigneur de Buzancy[923].  “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[924].  “Henris cuens de Grant Prei et...Henris annez filz le conte de Grant Prei et...Jehans filz au dit conte de Grant Prei sires de Busancy” agreed not to sell “Grant Prei ne la chastelerie de Grant Prei...Manre“ by charter dated 8 Apr 1280[925].  He succeeded his father as Comte de Grandpré, in preference to the son of his older deceased brother.  Barthélemy records numerous charters dated between Jan 1289 and May 1313, in which he is named as comte de Grandpré[926].  “Arnus escuiers et Jehans chanoines d’Yvois freire, de Florenville”, in their dispute with Orval and “Loys conte de Chiney”, notified the arbitral decision made by “monsignor Othon de Trezegny, chier oncle à nousdis Arnout et Jehan de Florenville, et...Jehant conte de Grandpreit”, by charter dated 19 Jul 1293[927].  Jean Comte de Grandpré and Jeanne sa femme confirmed the properties of the priory of Grandpré by charter dated Oct 1301[928].  He died before 24 Nov 1314 when his son’s guardian is named (see below).  Barthélemy records his burial “à Saint-Paul de Verdun[929]

[m firstly ([1274/80]) ---.  No direct proof of this first marriage has been found.  However, the possibility of an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage is suggested both by Jean [I]’s estimated birth date and by the unlikelihood of his known marriage to Jeanne d’Eloi taking place many years before 1301 (when she is first named) considering that their son Jean [II] was still a minor in 1323 (see below).  An earlier marriage could explain the record of an unnamed “comte” de Grandpré being killed at Courtrai in 1302: this person could have been Jean [I]’s son by a first wife (see below).  The existence of a son and heir by an earlier marriage may also account for Jean [I] undertaking a second marriage with a member of what seems to have been a relatively obscure local family.  It should be borne in mind that Europäische Stammtafeln names “Jeanne de Nanteuil (died after 27 Jul 1323)”, daughter of Erard [I] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, as the wife of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré[930].  As discussed in the Nanteuil-la-Fosse section of the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-CENTRAL CHAMPAGNE/MARNE, this person is unlikely to have been Jeanne [d’Eloi/d’Elvi] who is shown below as Jean’s known wife.  Could a daughter of Erard have been Jean [I]’s first wife?  The birth of Erard’s children can be dated with reasonably accuracy to [1258/69], which is consistent with the suggested date for Jean’s first marriage.  However, the couple would have been second cousins (through the Brienne family).  While second cousin marriages were not unknown, this family relationship was close enough for potential difficulties in obtaining a Papal dispensation.] 

m [secondly] (before Oct 1301) JEANNE [d’Eloi/d’Elvi], daughter of --- [d’Eloi] & his wife [--- du Bois?] ([before 1285]-after 4 Feb 1324).  Père Anselme names “Jeanne, dont le surnom est ignoré” as the wife of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré[931].  Barthélemy records that “quelques auteurs lui donnent le surnom d’Elvi” (without specifying which authors)[932].  She is named “d’Eloi” by Miroy, as noted below.  Barthélemy suggests that she was the sister of Henri du Bois, who was named as guardian of her son Jean [II] as noted below, but incorrectly suggests that his du Bois family was probably descended from a younger branch of the Dampierre-en-Astenois family (see the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-CENTRAL CHAMPAGNE/MARNE)[933]   Follow Jeanne’s hyperlink for alternative suggestions for the du Bois/Eloi connection, discussed in the paragraph concerning her possible mother.  The question of Jeanne’s possible family origin is complicated by Europäische Stammtafeln naming “Jeanne de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, daughter of Evrard I & Mabilie de Lézines” as the wife of Jean [I] de Grandpré[934].  The reasons why this is probably incorrect are discussed in the Nanteuil-la-Fosse section of CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY-CENTRAL CHAMPAGNE/MARNE.  It is unlikely that Jeanne married many years before 1301, when she is first named, as her son Jean [II] was still a minor in 1323.  Jean de Grandpré and Jeanne his wife confirmed the properties of the priory of Grandpré by charter dated Oct 1301[935].  A decision dated 20 Jan 1321 relates to a dispute between “Gautier de Villiers alias La Broce chevalier” and “la comtesse de Grandpré[936]Miroy records that during the minority of her son “Henry d’Argy, Jacquemin de Hans et Erard de Planques” attacked the county and town of Grandpré, and that “Jeanne d’Eloi mère du jeune comte...en qualité de comtesse de Grandpré” launched legal action against the attackers 27 Jul 1323[937]An instruction dated 28 Jul 1323 relates to the lawsuit brought by “la comtesse Jeanne de Grandpré” against “Henri de d’Argies, Jacquemin de Haies, Erard des Planches et leurs complices”, and another dated [Nov/Dec] 1323 against “Henri de Claciaco chevalier, Jaquin de Hans, Henri de Dargies nobles et autres, prévenus de violences contre la comtesse de Grandpré”, while a third dated 4 Feb 1324 records some of the circumstances of their attack on Grandpré[938]

Jean [I] & his [first] wife had one child: 

1.         [--- de Grandpré ([1275/85]-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  The Chronique Artésienne records “li quens de Grant Pré” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai[939].  This person has not been identified.  No other record has been found which confirms that a comte de Grandpré, or a junior member of the comital family, died at Courtrai in 1302.  However, as noted above, the chronology suggests that he could have been the son of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré and his supposed first wife.  The son would not have been “li quens” while his father lived, but if he had been his father’s heir he may have been accorded the courtesy title in the Chronique.] 

Jean [I] & his [second] wife had [six] children: 

2.         JEAN [II] de Grandpré ([after 1305]-[3 Jun 1373/1375]).  He succeeded his father as Comte de Grandpré, under the guardianship of Henri du Bois: "...Henricus de Bosco, tutor Johannis comitis Magnipratensis..." is named among the supporters of Champagne in a treaty against the Burgundians dated 24 Nov 1314[940].  Jean was presumably still a minor in 1323 when his mother took legal action against the attackers of Grandpré (see above).  Père Anselme records two comtes de Grandpré named Jean: Jean [II], wife unknown, and his son Jean [III], married to Catherine de Châtillon[941]: if Jean [II] was still under age in 1323, the chronology appears tight (although not impossible) for this suggestion to be correct.  It is correct that Jean [II]’s marriage was late, but maybe he had an otherwise unrecorded earlier wife.  Jean [II] confirmed the charters dated Aug 1213, under which Henri [IV] Comte de Grandpré granted privileges to the town of Grandpré, and May 1236, under which Henri [V] confirmed the earlier charter, by charter dated 1 Oct 1347[942].  The Parlement de Paris granted payments to the comte de Grandpré and his wife, under the lawsuit concerning her father’s succession, by decison dated 3 Jun 1373[943].  He presumably died before 1375 when his son Edouard is named comte de Grandpré (see below).  [m firstly ---.  No direct proof of this first marriage has been found.  However, the possibility of an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage is suggested by the dating of Jean [I]’s known marriage in light of his estimated birth date shown above.]  m [secondly] (after [Jan 1346/Mar 1348] before 10 May 1354) as her second husband, CATHERINE de Châtillon, widow of JEAN de Picquigny Seigneur d´Ailly, daughter of HUGUES de Chatillon-sur-Marne Seigneur de Leuze & his wife Jeanne dame de Dargies et de Catheux (-after 24 May 1387).  A parliamentary register dated 10 May 1354 records a claim by “Margareta de Pinconio domicella...ut habente ballum Marguaretæ et Ioannæ de Pinconio neptum suarum” against “comitem Grandisprati et Katherinam de Leuses eius uxorem et quondam defuncti Ioannis de Pinconio militis” regarding property of “defunctum Ferricum de Pinconio militem ipsius domicella et prædicti defuncti Ioannis patrem[944].  “Ioannes comes Grandi Prati et Katherina de Sancto Paulo uxor sua ac filia defuncti Hugonis de S. Paulo quondam domini de Leusa et de Condeyo” claimed against “Ioannam de Sancto Paulo comitissam de Marchia sororemque dictæ Katherinæ” relating to the succession of their father by charter dated 31 May 1370[945]Miroy records that Catherine divided the county of Grandpré between herself and her two sons by charter dated 27 Jan 1376, her son Edouard taking Grandpré while Ferry became “seigneur de Verpel, Voncq et Quatre-Champs[946].  Miroy records that Edouard sold “toutes les assises tenues en deniers par les habitants de Grandpré” to Robert Duke of Bar, reserving the dower of “madame Catherine de Saint-Paul comtesse de Grandpré dame d’Ailly sa mère” which would revert to Edouard and his brother Ferry after her death, by charter dated 24 May 1387[947]Jean [II] & his [second] wife had children: 

a)         EDOUARD [I] de Grandpré (-before 31 Aug 1396)Comte de Grandpré.  Barthélemy records sources which name him between 1375 and Jan 1387[948]

-        see below.    

b)         FERRY de Grandpré (-killed Paris 1418)Miroy records that Catherine divided the county of Grandpré between herself and her two sons by charter dated 27 Jan 1376, her son Edouard taking Grandpré while Ferry became “seigneur de Verpel, Voncq et Quatre-Champs[949]Barthélemy records charters in which he is named dated between 8 Sep 1382 and 26 Aug 1412, adding that Ferry fought at Agincourt and was killed in a riot in Paris in 1418[950]m MARGUERITE de Barbançon, daughter of ---.  Barthélemy records her family origin and marriage[951].  The primary source which confirms her relationship to the main Barbançon family (see the document HAINAUT) has not been identified.  Ferry & his wife had two or more children: 

i)          JEANNE de Grandpré .  Barthélemy records her parentage and two marriages[952]m firstly JACQUES de Boham Seigneur de Vaucelles et de Boham, son of ---.  m secondly JACQUES de la Charmoye, son of ---. 

ii)         one or more daughters .  Barthélemy records that Ferry “n’eut que des filles” but does not say how many[953]

3.         [--- de Grandpré (-before 1335).  The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “messires Eustasses”. oldest son of “Eustasses, fils du connestable” and his wife “la fille le comte de Soissons”, married secondly “la fille au comte de Grandpré” by whom he had “plusieurs enfans et en vesquit quatre jusques en bon age[954].  Identifying the father of the second wife of Eustache [V] de Conflans is difficult because of the uncertain chronology of the Conflans family.  If Eustache’s birth is correctly estimated as shown below, it is likely that his wife was the daughter of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré.  If that is correct, she was probably one of her parents’ older children.  Her suggested parentage is consistent with Miroy recording that “Jeanne d’Eloi”, widow of Jean [I], granted part of the county of Grandpré in 1322 to “Elisabeth de Grandpré, femme de Eustache de Conflans seigneur de Mareuil, sa fille et sœur germaine de Jean [II][955]m as his second wife, EUSTACHE [V] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil, son of EUSTACHE [IV] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil & his wife --- de Soissons ([1280/90]-[1335/43]).] 

4.         ISABELLE de Grandpré .  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[956].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  m as his second wife, GUILLAUME de Thil Seigneur de Thil et de Marigny, son of PONCE Seigneur de Thil & his wife Agnes de Traînel (-after 1317). 

5.         HENRI de Grandpré (-[8 Sep 1382/27 Apr 1383]).  Barthélemy records his parentage, citing documents dated 30 Jun 1335, 1339, Feb 1353, 17 Apr 1357, 8 Jun 1364, 11 Jul 1366, May 1370, Aug 1368, Mar 1369, 22 Feb 1371 and Mar 1375[957].  Seigneur de Buzancy.  A charter dated 8 Sep 1382 records Henri de Grandpré claiming payments for the sale of Buzancy to the duke of Bar in 1376, sealed by “ses deux neveux le comte Edouard de Grandpré chevalier et Ferry son frère écuyer[958].  A charter dated 27 Apr 1383 records that the comte de Grandpré notified his transfer to his brother of “la terre et seigneurie qu’avait Henri de Grandpré[959]

6.         [JEANNE de Grandpré (-after 12 Mar [1351]).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[960].  Jean III Duke of Brabant granted “la maison qu’il possède à Vilvorde, appelée de Borgh” to “chevalier Adam van Hellebeek son parent”, stipulating that the property could only be repurchased “après le décès du susdit Adam et de sa femme Jeanne de Grandpré”, by charter dated 19 Jul 1334[961].  “Jeanne épouse de N. de Halebeque” pleaded against “Isabelle de Salm dame d’Aigremont” [wife of Renier [II] de Choiseul Seigneur d’Aigremont, see the document CHAMPAGNE-BASSIGNY & BOLENOIS], who had claimed revenue from “Maubrecis-le-Grand et Maubrecis-le-petit, appartenant à Jeanne et saisis alors pour défaut d’hommage”, by charter dated 12 Mar 1350 (presumably O.S.)[962].  Presumably Jeanne was a widow at the time, maybe recently widowed as her husband is named, otherwise he would have acted in her name.  Barthélemy states that Jeanne was the daughter of Jean [II] Comte de Grandpré, which is chronologically impossible assuming that this charter is correctly dated.  Assuming that Jeanne was a member of the main line of the Grandpré family, the chronology suggests that she was the daughter of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré.  m (before 19 Jul 1334) ADAM de Hellebecq, son of --- (-[1336/50]).] 

7.         [--- de Grandpré ([before 1314]-).  Dame de Manre et de Vieux-lès-Meure.  No source has been found which directly confirms the existence of this person and her marriage.  However, the association of the Grandpré family with Manre and Vieux-les-Meure is confirmed by two charters: (1) “Henris cuens de Grantprez, Ysabiaux comtesse sa femme, Henris chevaliers sires de Livry et Jehan ses frères sires de Busancy et Ysabiaux femme doudit Henrys seigneur de Livry” granted rights to the “bourjois de Menre et de Vyeu [Manre et Vieux-les-Meure] et de la chatellerie haute”, submitting to “[les] coustumes de Rains”, by charter dated Dec 1273[963]; (2) “Henris cuens de Grant Prei et...Henris annez filz le conte de Grant Prei et...Jehans filz au dit conte de Grant Prei sires de Busancy” agreed not to sell “Grant Prei ne la chastelerie de Grant Prei...Manre“ by charter dated 8 Apr 1280[964].  No further reference has been found to Manre before the Jun 1385 charter of this person’s supposed daughter Marguerite quoted below, but the suggestion is that Marguerite inherited the town from a Grandpré ancestor.  If this is correct, Marguerite’s suggested birth date indicates that she could have been the daughter or granddaughter of Jean [I] Comte de Grandpré.  No other reference has been found to Hangard/Hougart, the supposed paternal family of Marguerite.  m ---.]  One child or grandchild: 

a)         MARGUERITE [de Hangard/Hougart] ([1345/55]-after Jun 1385).  Dame de Manre et de Vieux-lès-Meure: a list of Reims fiefs dated Jun 1385 includes “arrière-fiez tenus dudit archevesque à cause de son chastel de Betteniville...madamoiselle Marguerite de Hougart, femme de feu Eudouart Dubois, tant pour elle comme ayant le bail...de ses enfans...le chastel et ville de Menre et de Vieux-les-Meure...[965]m ([1365/70?]) EDOUARD du Bois Seigneur de Termes, son of EDOUARD [I] du Bois Seigneur de Termes & his wife --- ([1330/40]-[1376/Jun 1385]). 

 

 

EDOUARD [I] de Grandpré, son of JEAN [II] Comte de Grandpré & his [second] wife Catherine de Châtillon (-before 31 Aug 1396)Comte de Grandpré.  Barthélemy records sources which name him between 1375 and Jan 1387[966]Miroy records that Edouard sold “toutes les assises tenues en deniers par les habitants de Grandpré” to Robert Duke of Bar, reserving the dower of “madame Catherine de Saint-Paul comtesse de Grandpré dame d’Ailly sa mère” which would revert to Edouard and his brother Ferry after her death, by charter dated 24 May 1387[967]

m firstly (before 16 Jan 1381) ISABELLE, daughter of --- (-before 10 Feb 1386).  A charter dated 16 Jan 1381 names “le comte Edouard et Isabelle sa femme[968].  The death of Edouard’s first wife and his second marriage are indicated by a charter dated 10 Feb 1386 under which he sold certain properties to the duke of Bar and a second charter dated Jan 1387 which records that since the sale “il s’était marié[969]

m secondly ([10 Feb 1386/Jan 1387]) ISABELLE de Flandre Dame de Lonny, daughter of ---.  The death of Edouard’s first wife and his second marriage are indicated by a charter dated 10 Feb 1386 under which he sold certain properties to the duke of Bar and a second charter dated Jan 1387 which records that since the sale “il s’était marié[970].  Barthélemy records her family origin and two marriages[971].  The primary sources which confirms her precise family origin has not been identified.  Her family name suggests a connection with the comital family of Flanders and the chronology suggests that, if this is correct, she was the granddaughter of one of the illegitimate children of Louis I or was an illegitimate daughter of Louis II.  Miroy records that “Isabelle de Flandre sa femme...comtesse douarière de Grandpré” swore homage to Charles VI King of France for the county of Grandpré “en qualité de tutrice de ses enfants mineurs” by charter dated 31 Aug 1396[972]She married secondly Henri de Ville Seigneur d´Aumenancourt

Edouard [I] & his first wife had two children: 

1.         JEAN [III] de Grandpré (-after 15 Sep 1415).  Barthélemy suggests that “lettres de remission” dated 1395 given to “Jean de Grandpré, l’aisné, écuyer” relate to an episode during which he was attacked and killed one of his assailants, fleeing the kingdom until “le bailli de Touraine reçut l’ordre de cesser toute poursuite[973].  This date indicates that Jean [III] must have been born from his father’s first marriage.  Comte de Grandpré.  “Jean [III] Comte de Grandpré” gave proxy for swearing homage to the comte de Ligny for “la terre du Bocque mouvante de la châtellenie d’Ailly qu’il possédait du chef de sa femme” by charter dated 14 Apr 1414, and approved a donation made to Saint-Médard by “son oncle Ferry seigneur de Voncq” by charter dated 15 Sep 1415[974]m as her second husband, ISABELLE de Jumelles, widow of JEAN de Dixmude Seigneur d’Aure et de Malmy, daughter of ---.  Barthélemy records her family origin and two marriages (correcting an earlier passage in which he names her “Isabelle de Fumel”), noting that she had two sons by her first husband “Jacques et Henri[975].  The primary source on which this information is based has not been identified, although an indication of her family’s property is provided by the 14 Apr 1414 charter cited above.  Jean [III] & his wife had one child: 

a)         LOUIS de Grandpré (-before 25 May 1447).  Comte de Grandpré.  Barthélemy records that Louis “présenta le dénombrement de son comté en 1439 au connétable de Richemond qui tenait alors Sainte-Menehould” and that in 1447 his uncle Edouard inherited his properties[976]

2.         EDOUARD [II] de Grandpré (-17 Feb 1470).  Seigneur d’Imécourt, de Saint-Georges, d’Escry, de Quatre-Champs, de Cornay.  Seigneur de Grandpré.  Barthélemy records events in his life dated 1427, 1432, 1441, 1446[977].  Robert Seigneur de Commercy captured Edouard 1436 and imprisoned him at Commercy for two years and seven months, during which time Grandpré château was held by “un gouverneur...Guillaume d’Augy[978]Comte de Grandpré: Edouard swore homage to the king for his county after the death of “Loys jadis et naguères comte de Grandpré son neveu” by charter dated 25 May 1447[979].  Barthélemy says that “on dit qu’Edouard II mourut” 17 Feb 1470[980]m MATHILDE de Rubempré, daughter of ---.  Barthélemy records that Louis Bishop of Châlons granted revenues from Grandpré town “en faveur du mariage de Mahaud de Rubempré avec Edouard de Grandpré seigneur d’Imécourt, d’Escry et de Saint-Georges” by charter dated 1417[981].  Edouard de Grandpré inherited “de la succession d’Agnès de Heilly, les terres de Heilly et de la Hauteclocque, du chef de sa femme” in Apr/May 1456 but he and his wife transferred their rights to Louis de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol, with the consent of “Louis leur fils aîné”, by charter dated 6 Jun 1456[982].  Edouard [II] & his wife had two children: 

a)         LOUIS de Grandpré (-after 6 Jun 1456).  Edouard [II] and his wife transferred their rights in the succession of Agnès d’Heilly to Louis de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol, with the consent of “Louis leur fils aîné”, by charter dated 6 Jun 1456[983]

b)         GOBERT de Grandpré (-after 19 Jul 1484).  Seigneur de Cornay et de Fléville.  Barthélemy records that he swore homage to the king 20 Jul 1468 and 19 Jul 1484[984]m CLAUDE du Bois, daughter of ANTOINE du Bois Seigneur de Manres et de Termes & his wife Jeanne de Chenery.  Barthélemy records her family origin and marriage[985].  Moret de la Fayole records her precise parentage and marriage[986].  Gobert & his wife had two children: 

i)          JEANNE de Grandpré .  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, noting that she inherited Cornay, Lançon, Fléville and Binarville[987]m PIERRE de Pavant, son of ---. 

ii)         BEATRIX de Grandpré .  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, noting that she inherited the remaining parts of her father’s properties[988]m GEOFFROY Issenard Seigneur de Landres, son of ---. 

 

 

 

B.      SEIGNEURS de HANS

 

 

JACQUES de Grandpré, son of HENRI [III Comte de Grandpré & his second wife Ada d´Avesnes (-before 13 Aug 1249).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato…primogenitus filiorum Jacobus" (by his second wife) succeeded his father "in terra de Hans in Campania"[989]Seigneur de Hans.  “...Jacques de Grandpré...” promised to guarantee the agreement regarding the succession to the county of Flanders by charter dated Jan 1234 (O.S.?)[990]...Jacobus de Grandiprato...” and others requested the archbishop of Reims to confirm their agreement regarding the Flanders succession by charter dated [Feb] 1235, confirmed before 8 Apr 1235 by the archbishop[991]Ada dame de Hans notified Thibaut Comte de Bar that “Helvis de Barbançon sa bru” had received as dower “la moitié de la terre de Hans et de la maison qui fut le peire mon fils” by charter dated 13 Aug 1249[992]

m (before Jun 1238) as her second husband, HELVIDE de Barbançon, widow of EGIDIUS [II] Berthout Heer van Berlaer, daughter of GILLES de Barbancon & his wife --- (-after 1282).  "Ægidius Bertholdus" founded the abbey of St Bernard near Antwerp, with the consent of "Walteri Bertholdi domini et consanguinei nostri", by charter dated end-Jan 1235 witnessed by "…uxor nostra Heluigis"[993]Her parentage is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[994], but the primary source on which this affiliation is based has not been identified.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato…primogenitus filiorum Jacobus" (by his second wife) married "filia domini Nicolai de Barbenchon" by whom he fathered two sons "Henricum et Jacobum"[995].  From a chronological point of view it is unlikely that this source is accurate: it is more likely that Jacques´s wife was the daughter of Gilles de Barbançon.  The primary source which confirms that Jacques´s wife was the widow of Egidius Berthout has not yet been identified.  “Ade dame de Hans jadis comtesse de Soissons” consented to the dower agreed by “son fils Jacques à sa femme Helvis fille de Gilles de Barbançon” by charter dated Jun 1238[996].  Ada dame de Hans notified Thibaut Comte de Bar that “Helvis de Barbançon sa bru” had received as dower “la moitié de la terre de Hans et de la maison qui fut le peire mon fils” by charter dated 13 Aug 1249[997].  She married thirdly (before May 1250) Gérard [III] d'Ecry.  The primary source which confirms her third marriage has not yet been identified. 

Jacques [I] & his wife had children: 

1.         HENRI [I] de Hans (-after early Dec 1315).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato…primogenitus filiorum Jacobus" (by his second wife) married "filia domini Nicolai de Barbenchon" by whom he fathered two sons "Henricum et Jacobum"[998]Seigneur de Hans.  “Iehans cuens de Soissons” acted as guarantor to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “mon...cousin mon signor Henri de Hans chevalier” by charter dated [May] 1267[999].  “Ansiaus de Gallande chevaliers sires de Poussesse et de Tornant en Brie” acted as guarantor to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “mon...cousin mon signor Henri de Hans chevalier” by charter dated [May] 1267[1000].  Henri’s precise family relationship with Anseau de Garlande has not been ascertained.  “Henris chevaliers sires de Hans” settled his dispute with Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne, naming as guarantors “messire Guiz de Chastillon cuens de Saint Pol et messires Iehans cuens de Soissons et messires Raous de Soissons et messire Ansiaus de Gallande sire de Possesse”, by charter dated 30 Nov 1267[1001].  Henri de Hans sealed a charter dated “jeudi après Saint-André” 1315 of Jeanne de Roucy Ctss de Bar[1002]m ERMINE de Châlons, daughter of HUGUES [III] Vidame de Châlons & his wife Marguerite de Milly.  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage[1003].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  Henri [I] & his wife had one child: 

a)         JACQUES [II] de Hans (-before 1353)Seigneur de Hans.  An instruction dated 28 Jul 1323 launched the action by “la comtesse Jeanne de Grandpré” against “Henri de d’Argies, Jacquemin de Haies [=Hans], Erard des Planches et leurs complices”, and another dated [Nov/Dec] 1323 against “Henri de Claciaco chevalier, Jaquin de Hans, Henri de Dargies nobles et autres, prévenus de violences contre la comtesse de Grandpré”, while a third dated 4 Feb 1324 records some of the circumstances of their attack on Grandpré[1004].  He presumably died before 1353 when his son is recorded as seigneur de Hans.  m ALIX des Armoises, daughter of BAUDOUIN des Armoises & his wife ---.  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, adding that she brought rights to les Armoises, Sy and Sommepy and that Alix also inherited the part due to her sister Isabelle, wife of Renaud de Rouvroy[1005].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  Jacques [II] & his wife had six children: 

i)          HENRI [II] de Hans (-[1370/77])Seigneur de Hans.  Barthélemy records his parentage, notes that he received remission in 1353 relating to a homicide, and records his mentions in 1357, 1364 and 1370[1006]m BEATRIX de Commercy, daughter of JOHANN von Saarbrücken Seigneur de Commercy & his wife Alix de Joinville Dame de Venisy (-after 14 Apr 1378).  Barthélemy records her family origin and marriage[1007].  Henri [II] & his wife had five children: 

(a)       HENRI [III] de Hans (-after 1436).  Barthélemy records his parentage[1008]Seigneur de Hans

-         see below

(b)       JACQUES de Hans (-after 20 May 1437).  Barthélemy records his parentage[1009].  Seigneur de Thénorgues.  Barthélemy lists charters dated between 10 Jan 1366 and 20 May 1437 which name him[1010]m as her second husband, JEANNE de Joinville, widow of GUILLAUME de Saux Seigneur d’Epense, Cernon et de Bouconville, daughter of --- de Joinville & his wife ---.  “Ferry de Lorraine Cte de Vaudemont, Sgr de Joinville, Hue d’Amboise Sgr de Chaumont-sur-Loire et Jac. de Hens Sgr de Ténorgues”, all having rights “à la succession de feu Mre Jn de Joinville Sgr de Doulevant à cause de leurs femmes”, reached agreement concerning land which “feu Henry Cte de Vaudemont sire de Joinville” had assigned to “feu Jn de Joinville” by charter dated 17 May 1394[1011].  Dame de Doulevant.  "Jacques de Hans et Jeanne de Joinville sa femme seigneur et dame de Doulevant" acknowledged to “Ferry de Lorraine et à Marguerite de Joinville comte et comtesse de Vaudémont” receipt of money “sur la halle de Joinville” by charter dated 30 Jul 1395[1012]

(c)       SIMON de Hans (-after 1392).  Barthélemy records his parentage, noting the property attributed to him in “l’aveu d’Haulzy de 1392[1013]

(d)       AGNES de Hans (-after 1392).  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, noting that “l’aveu d’Haulzy de 1392...lui attribue la moitié de Melzicourt[1014]m JEAN d’Arrentières, son of ---. 

(e)       JEANNE de Hans .  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, noting that she inherited half of Melzicourt and a wood at Haulzy[1015]m SIMON de Joinville Seigneur de Beaupré, son of ---. 

ii)         JACQUES de Hans (-[1347/57]).  Seigneur de Chevières.  Barthélemy records his parentage, noting that he was one of the executors under the 1347 testament of “Gauthier VI duc d’Athènes...et paraît avoir été compromis, ainsi que le comte de Grandpré, dans le fait de la captivité de Jean Grossetête chevalier”, and that he died before 1357[1016]

iii)        MARGUERITE de Hans (-after 1364).  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, noting that she was living in 1364[1017]m (mid-Aug 1337) GEOFFROY de Rosières Seigneur de Ligneville, son of ---. 

iv)       CATHERINE de Hans (-[before 1348])Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage with “Ferry de Linanges seigneur de Franquestin”[1018].  Her husband has not been identified in the Leiningen family, unless she was a first wife of Friedrich [IX].  If that is correct, Catherine died before 1348 when Friedrich is recorded with his second wife.  m FRIEDRICH von Leiningen Seigneur de Franquestin, son of ---.  same person as...?  m [as his first wife,] FRIEDRICH [IX] Graf von Leiningen-Dagsburg, son of FRIEDRICH [VII] Graf von Leiningen-Dagsburg & his wife --- (-1397). 

v)        JEANNE de HansBarthélemy records her parentage and marriage[1019]m RENIER Seigneur d’Aufrécourt, son of ---. 

vi)       ALIX de Hans (-after 1401, bur Challerange).  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, quoting the epitaph at Challerange Saints Jacques et Christophe which records the burial of “messires Jehan Pasté chevalier jadis seigneur du Bois Malesherbes et de Chaleranges, et madame Alix de Hans sa femme” and his death 3 Feb 1374, and noting Alix’s donation in 1401[1020]m JEAN Pasté Seigneur du Bois Malesherbes, son of --- (-3 Feb 1374, bur Challerange). 

2.         JACQUES de Hans (-after 1335).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "comiti de Grandi-prato…primogenitus filiorum Jacobus" (by his second wife) married "filia domini Nicolai de Barbenchon" by whom he fathered two sons "Henricum et Jacobum"[1021].  Barthélemy notes that he was “seigneur de Tantonville par sa mère”, and cites charters dated 1267, 1297 and 1335 in which he is named[1022]m AGNES de Noviant, daughter of --- (-after 1301).  Jacques de Hans “d’accord avec sa femme Agnès de Noviant” donated harvest to Moiremont by charter dated 1301[1023]

3.         GEOFFROY de Hans (-after 1267).  Barthélemy records his parentage and notes that he was named in a charter dated 1267[1024].

4.         PIERRE de Hans (-1281, bur Hans).   Barthélemy records his parentage and his ecclesiastical appointments[1025].  Archdeacon of Châlons.  Bishop of Châlons 1268. 

 

 

The parentage of the wife of Thomas de Coucy has not been confirmed.  Barthélemy records Agnes as daughter of Henri [III] Seigneur de Hans by his first wife Marie de Lor, notes that she married Thomas de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins, that she died 30 May 1393, and was buried at Foigny “auprès de sa mère[1026].  He cites no sources on which he bases this information.  The chronology is wrong.  Assuming that Henri [III] did have a daughter named Agnes, and that she died 30 May 1393, her date of birth (estimated from her mother’s birthdate) suggests that she would probably have died unmarried or recently married (see below).  If that is correct, Agnes, wife of Thomas de Coucy, would have been the daughter of an earlier Seigneur de Hans.  The possibilities are (1) Jacques [II], (2) Henri [II], or (3) Jacques, younger brother of Henri [II].  The chronology of the Coucy/Vervins family is too uncertain to test these possibilities.  Le Long, in his Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du diocèse de Laon, names “Agnès de Ham” as Thomas’s wife[1027].  No such person has been traced in the Ham family (see the document NORTHERN FRANCE-VALOIS/VEXIN/VERMANDOIS).  Hozier’s Armorial Général confuses matters further, naming her “Agnès de Ham, fille de Jaques Seigneur de Ham et de Heilly, et de Françoise des Armoises[1028]

 

1.         AGNES de Hans (-[30 May 1393, bur Foigny]).  Barthélemy records her marriage, and other information, as noted above.  The primary source which confirms this data has not been identified.  Hozier records the death of Thomas de Coucy 6 May 1392 and that of his wife “le 30 du même mois”, and their burial at Foigny[1029]m [as his second wife,] THOMAS de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins, son of --- (-6 May 1392, bur Foigny). 

 

 

HENRI [III] de Hans, son of HENRI [II] Seigneur de Hans & his wife Beatrix de Commercy (-after 1436).  Barthélemy records his parentage[1030]Seigneur de Hans.  Henri swore allegiance “pour St-Germainmont et Hanongne, du chef de Marie de Lor sa femme” by charter dated 2 Feb 1392[1031].  He is noted as living in his son’s 21 May 1436 charter cited below. 

m firstly ([1380/90]) MARIE de Lor, daughter of GAUTHIER de Lor Seigneur de Brais & his wife Marguerite de Walcourt ([1365/70]-[2 Feb 1392/1415], bur Foigny).  Henri swore allegiance “pour St-Germainmont et Hanongne, du chef de Marie de Lor sa femme” by charter dated 2 Feb 1392[1032].  Barthélemy records that she was buried with her supposed daughter Agnès (see below). 

m secondly (after 1415) as her third husband, ISABELLE d’Estouteville, widow firstly of GAUTHIER de Vienne Seigneur de Mirebel and secondly of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Mareuil, daughter of ROBERT [VII] Seigneur d’Estouteville & his wife Marguerite de Montmorency (-after 28 Oct 1438)

Henri [III] & his first wife had [two] children: 

1.         [AGNES de Hans ([1381/91]-[30 May 1393, bur Foigny]).  Barthélemy records Agnes as daughter of Henri [III] Seigneur de Hans by his first wife Marie de Lor, notes that she married Thomas de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins, that she died 30 May 1393, and was buried at Foigny “auprès de sa mère[1033].  He cites no sources on which he bases this information.  The chronology is wrong.  Assuming that Henri [III] did have a daughter named Agnes, and that she died 30 May 1393, her date of birth (estimated from her mother’s birthdate) suggests that she would probably have died unmarried or recently married.  If that is correct, Agnes, wife of Thomas de Coucy, would have been the daughter of an earlier Seigneur de Hans (see above).] 

2.         JACQUES [III] de Hans (-[5 Sep 1465/26 Jun 1478])The date of the following charter indicates that Jacques was born from his father’s first marriage.  His date of death suggests that he would have been younger than his supposed sister Agnes.  The king granted [les] chasteaus, terre, seigneurie et revenus de Bruieres lés Montoiz” to “Iaques de Hans chevalier” by charter dated 7 Apr 1423[1034]Jacques de Hans “chevalier, comme procureur de son père” swore allegiance for “St-Jean-sur-Toube, Cornay, Haulzy, St-Pierremont et Thénorgues” by charter dated 21 May 1436[1035]Seigneur de Hansm ISABELLE de Béthune, daughter of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Mareuil & his wife Isabelle d’Estouteville (-[before 28] Aug [after Aug 1480], bur Ecry Saint-Didier).  Robert de Bethune chevalier seigneur de Marueil en Brie, d’Hostel et de Baye” and “madame Isabel de Bethune sa seur femme...de...Iacques seigneur de Hans et des Armoises chevalier” agreed the succession of “monseigneur Iehan de Bethune chevalier iadis seigneur desdits lieux...et madame Isabel d’Estouteville leurs pere et mere”, noting property inherited from “feuë madame Marguerite de Montmorency dame d’Estouteville” by “ladite madame Isabel d’Estouteville sa fille...”, by charter dated 29 May 1441[1036].  An epitaph at Ecry Saint-Didier records the burial of “Isabel de Bethune dame de Hans, des Armoises et d’Escry” 28 Aug 1453 [year incorrect][1037].  She is named in her son’s Aug 1480 charter, quoted below, in which he acted as her proxy.  Jacques [III] & his wife had [two or more] children: 

a)         HENRI [IV] de Hans (-[Aug 1480/27 Aug 1484])Seigneur de HansHenry de Hans chevalier seigneur dudit Hans et d’Escry”, as heir and proxy of “madame Ysabel de Bethune veufue de monseigneur Iacques de Hans en son vivant chevalier seigneur de Hans et des Armoises, dame douagere dudit Hans et des Armoises sa mère”, sold property “deux fiefs...le Fief de Locres mouvant de la Comté de Soissons...”, which she had inherited “par la mort...de feu son...pere monseigneur Iehan de Bethune dit de Locres en son vivant chevalier seigneur de Mareul, d’Hostel et de Baye”, to “messire Guillaume de Biche chevalier, President des Finances, Conseiller et Chambellan du Roy...”, by charter dated Aug 1480[1038].  He presumably died before 27 Aug 1484, the date of his son’s charter cited below.  m [JACQUELINE/LOUISE] van Gistel, daughter of ---.  Barthélemy names “Jacqueline ou plutôt Louise de Guistelles” as the wife of Henri [IV] de Hans, without citing the sources which confirm the information[1039]Mistress (1): ---.  The name of Henri’s mistress is not known.  Henri [IV] & his wife had children: 

i)          JACQUES [IV] de Hans (-[18 Mar 1516/Dec 1519]).  Seigneur de Hans.  Jacques swore homage for “Haulzy, de la baronnie de Saint-Jean-sur-Tourbe...” by charter dated 27 Aug 1484[1040].  Baron d’Arzillières, de iure uxoris.  The Chronicle of Saint-Martin de Huiron records that King Louis XII granted the right to hold two fairs at Huiron “à la demande de Jacques de Grandpré chevalier seigneur de Hans, baron d’Arzillières et de Louise de Hangest sa femme” dated Feb 1506[1041].  Comte de Dampierre: “Claude d’Espeuse chevalier” swore allegiance to “Jacques de Grandpré chevalier seigneur de Hans, comte de Dampierre, baron d’Arzillières” for “la terre d’Epense” by charter dated 22 Apr 1511[1042].  The Chronicle of Saint-Martin de Huiron records an agreement between “Jacques de Grandpré et Louise de Hangest sa femme” and the abbot of Huiron regarding rights in the woods at Huiron, dated 18 Mar 1516[1043].  He was presumably deceased in Dec 1519, the date of his son’s charter cited below.  m (1504) LOUISE de Hangest, daughter of GUILLAUME de Hangest Baron d’Arzillières, de Dampierre-en-Astenois, de Blaise, d’Hauteville et de Landricourt & his wife Marguerite de Torcenai.  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, without citing the sources which confirm the information[1044].  The Chronicle of Saint-Martin de Huiron records that King Louis XII granted the right to hold two fairs at Huiron “à la demande de Jacques de Grandpré chevalier seigneur de Hans, baron d’Arzillières et de Louise de Hangest sa femme” dated Feb 1506[1045].  The Chronicle of Saint-Martin de Huiron records an agreement between “Jacques de Grandpré et Louise de Hangest sa femme” and the abbot of Huiron regarding rights in the woods at Huiron, dated 18 Mar 1516[1046].  Jacques [IV] & his wife had two children: 

(a)       GUILLAUME de Hans (-[1526]).  Barthélemy records his parentage, without citing the sources which confirm the information[1047]Seigneur de Hans.  Guillaume de Grandpré swore homage for “Hauzy, Melzicourt, Saint-Jean-sur-Tourbe...” by charter dated Dec 1519[1048].  Barthélemy records that Guillaume died “vers 1586, date à laquelle son beau-frère Henri de Linange rachetait la baronnie d’Arzillières[1049].  The year must be incorrect: presumably Guillaume died [1526]. 

(b)       MADELEINE de Hans (-after 1544).  Barthélemy records her parentage and two marriages, noting that she succeeded her brother and that her only daughter by her first marriage “Anne de Linange...apporta la seigneurie de Hans à son époux Claude de Bossut seigneur de Longueval”, without citing the sources which confirm the information[1050]m firstly HEINRICH [Hesso] Graf von Leiningen, son of EMICH Graf von Leiningen-Dagsburg und Hartenburg Seigneur d’Apremont & his wife Anna von Elter heiress of Apremont (before 1530).  m secondly (after 1532) FRANÇOIS de Cadenet, son of ---. 

ii)         MARIE de Hans (-before 1488).  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, without citing the sources which confirm the information[1051]m as his first wife, RAOUL de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins, son of --- (-Chémery 1515, bur Vervins).  Chambellan du roi. 

Henri [IV] had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1): 

iii)        JACQUES bâtard de Hans (-after 10 Jul 1478).  A charter dated 10 Jul 1478 records that madame Ysabel de Bethune vefue de feu...Iaques en son vivant seigneur de Hans et des Armoises” donated property to “Iaques bastard de Hans filz illegitime de...Henry seigneur de Hans, qui est filz aisné dudit feu...Iaques seigneur de Hans et de ladite dame Ysabel” by charter dated 10 Jul 1478[1052]

b)         [two or more] sons (-after 10 Jul 1478).  Their existence is confirmed by the 10 Jul 1478 charter of their mother in which she names their brother Henri [IV] as filz aisné dudit feu...Iaques seigneur de Hans et de ladite dame Ysabel”. 

 

 

 

 



[1] Longnon (1885), p. 119. 

[2] RHGF, Tome VI, IV, p. 414. 

[3] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 455, citing “Bibliothèque de l’Ecole des Hautes Etudes, XIe fascicule”. 

[4] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 593. 

[5] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 593. 

[6] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[7] Flodoardi Annales 933, MGH SS III, p. 381. 

[8] Flodoardi Annales 945, MGH SS III, p. 392. 

[9] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 946, MGH SS XXIII, p. 765. 

[10] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[11] Le Long (1783), p. 163, citing Annales Benedictini, Tome I, p. 535. 

[12] Vanderkindere (1902), Vol.II, p. 343. 

[13] Ex Miraculis S. Hucberti 20, MGH SS XV.2, p. 912.  . 

[14] Le Long (1783), p. 163, citing Annales Benedictini, Tome I, p. 535. 

[15] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta, XIX, col. 22, the last three subscribers being named only in the charter as reproduced in Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 17.  . 

[16] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 19. 

[17] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 19. 

[18] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 458. 

[19] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794. 

[20] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, LVII, p. 72. 

[21] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, LVIII, p. 74. 

[22] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1880), Tome 9, p. 98. 

[23] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, LVII, p. 72. 

[24] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, LVIII, p. 74. 

[25] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063 and 1088, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 794 and 801. 

[26] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, LVII, p. 72. 

[27] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, LVIII, p. 74. 

[28] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851. 

[29] Chronicon Sancti Huberti Andaginensis 65 (77), MGH SS VIII, p. 601. 

[30] Guibert de Nogent, Liber III, III, p. 135. 

[31] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 458. 

[32] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794. 

[33] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1880), Tome 9, p. 98. 

[34] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 458. 

[35] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, pp. 9-14. 

[36] Signy, LXXXIX, p. 23. 

[37] Röhricht (Supplement) 590b, p. 36. 

[38] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 460, citing “Cartul. de Vaucler, fo. 86”. 

[39] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 460, citing “Cartul. de Signy, fo. 48”. 

[40] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 460, citing “Cartul. de Vaucler, fo. 86”. 

[41] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 9. 

[42] Signy, CXVIII, p. 28. 

[43] Signy, DCIX, p. 25. 

[44] Signy, C, p. 25. 

[45] Signy, CXVII, p. 27. 

[46] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 9. 

[47] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 10, citing “Cartulaire de Signy, fo. 44”. 

[48] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 460, citing “Cartul. de Signy, fo. 48”. 

[49] Signy, CII, p. 26. 

[50] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 6ème Partie, p. 163. 

[51] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 12. 

[52] Signy, CIII, p. 26. 

[53] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 12, citing “Cartulaire de Signy, fo. 69”. 

[54] Arbois de Jubainville (1863), Tome V, 1492, p. 192. 

[55] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 7ème Partie, p. 182. 

[56] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Rôles de Fiefs, p. 182. 

[57] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 14. 

[58] Signy, CXLI, p. 30. 

[59] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 14. 

[60] Thierry d’Orjo in an email to the author dated 12 Jun 2019, citing Robert, G. (1935) Documents relatifs au comté de Porcien (Monaco, Paris), pp. 356-7.  

[61] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 14. 

[62] Butkens (1724), Vol. I, Preuves, p. 230, "Lettres tirées du chartulaire d’Ouwergem". 

[63] Butkens (1724), Vol. I, Preuves, p. 231, "Lettres tirées des chartes du monastère d’Ouwergem". 

[64] Thierry d’Orjo in an email to the author dated 12 Jun 2019, citing Robert (1935), pp. 356-7.  

[65] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, CLXXXVI, p. 308.  

[66] Thierry d’Orjo in an email to the author dated 12 Jun 2019, citing Robert (1935), pp. 356-7.  

[67] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 14. 

[68] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, col. 369. 

[69] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 75. 

[70] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 75. 

[71] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 14. 

[72] Signy, CXLVI, p. 31. 

[73] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 9. 

[74] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 10, citing “Cartulaire de Signy, fo. 44”. 

[75] Signy, CII, p. 26. 

[76] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 9. 

[77] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 10, citing “Cartulaire de Signy, fo. 44”. 

[78] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 10, citing “Cartulaire de Signy, fo. 44”. 

[79] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1885), Tome 18, p. 10, citing “Cartulaire de Signy, fo. 44”. 

[80] Signy, CXIII, p. 27.  

[81] Signy, CXVIII, p. 28. 

[82] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 460, citing “Cartul. de Vaucler, fo. 86”. 

[83] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 15, p. 460, citing “Cartul. de Signy, fo. 48”. 

[84] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 193. 

[85] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 309. 

[86] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 194. 

[87] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 310. 

[88] RHGF, Tome XX, Chronicon Guillelmi de Nangiaco, p. 574. 

[89] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 309. 

[90] Père Anselme, Tome I, p. 432. 

[91] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 194. 

[92] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 310. 

[93] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 310. 

[94] Duchesne (1625) Vergy, Preuves, p. 226. 

[95] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 203. 

[96] The date of her will. 

[97] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 206. 

[98] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 205. 

[99] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 207. 

[100] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 215. 

[101] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 245. 

[102] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 363, no citation reference. 

[103] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 359-60, and Preuves, p. 216. 

[104] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 359-60, and Preuves, p. 216. 

[105] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[106] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[107] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 369, no citation reference. 

[108] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, Appendice, 2, p. 465. 

[109] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 218. 

[110] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 218. 

[111] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 218. 

[112] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 221. 

[113] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 222. 

[114] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 221. 

[115] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 222. 

[116] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 371, no citation reference. 

[117] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 110. 

[118] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[119] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 222. 

[120] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 374-5, no citation reference. 

[121] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 551. 

[122] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 222. 

[123] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 370, no citation reference. 

[124] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 370, no citation reference. 

[125] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[126] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[127] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 371, no citation reference. 

[128] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 110. 

[129] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 519. 

[130] 18th century transcription, Copy sent by O. de Trazegnies to the author 22 Oct 2018. 

[131] Trazegnies, O. de (2018) La postérité d’Otton VI de Trazegnies et les quelques mystères qui l’entourent [as yet unpublished manuscript, copy sent by the author to Medieval Lands by email 14 Oct 2018], p. 33, citing Roserot, A. (1945) Dictionnaire historique de la Champagne méridionale, Tome 1, p. 1257. 

[132] Archives Nationales de France, P 173, 2 fo. 183, copied sent by O. de Trazegnies in an email 24 Oct 2018. 

[133] Archives Nationales de France, P 173, 2 fo. 206, copied sent by O. de Trazegnies in an email 24 Oct 2018. 

[134] Archives Nationales de France, P 174, 1 fo. 225, copied sent by O. de Trazegnies in an email 24 Oct 2018. 

[135] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 371-2. 

[136] Trazegnies (2018) Otton VI de Trazegnies, p. 33, citing Roserot (1945), Tome 1, p. 1257. 

[137] Archives Nationales de France, P 173, 2 fo. 183, copied sent by O. de Trazegnies in an email 24 Oct 2018. 

[138] Archives Nationales de France, P 173, 2 fo. 206, copied sent by O. de Trazegnies in an email 24 Oct 2018. 

[139] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 359-60, and Preuves, p. 216. 

[140] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[141] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 218. 

[142] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[143] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[144] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 243. 

[145] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 245. 

[146] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 420, no citation reference. 

[147] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 400. 

[148] Furgeot (1920), X/1a/6 49, p. 14. 

[149] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 414, no citation reference. 

[150] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 143. 

[151] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 415, no citation reference. 

[152] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 222. 

[153] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 419, no citation reference. 

[154] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 254. 

[155] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, pp. 254-5. 

[156] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 400. 

[157] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[158] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[159] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 442, no citation reference. 

[160] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 256. 

[161] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 445-9. 

[162] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 441-2. 

[163] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 442. 

[164] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255, and Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 453. 

[165] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 256. 

[166] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 256. 

[167] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 442, 449-50, no citation reference. 

[168] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 256. 

[169] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 462, no citation reference. 

[170] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 451-8, no citation references. 

[171] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 461, no citation reference. 

[172] Pêre Anselme, Tome VI, p. 116, and Tome VIII, p. 729. 

[173] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 462-548, ES VII 20-21, Père Anselme, Tome VI, pp. 116-22. 

[174] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255. 

[175] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255. 

[176] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 420, no citation reference. 

[177] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 551-3, no citation reference. 

[178] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 554-5, no citation reference. 

[179] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 420, 557, no citation reference. 

[180] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 557, no citation reference. 

[181] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 558, no citation reference. 

[182] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 557-70, ES VII 20, Père Anselme, Tome VI, pp. 122-3, extinct in the male line after 1425.  

[183] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 419, no citation reference. 

[184] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 256. 

[185] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 421, no citation reference. 

[186] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 249. 

[187] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 250. 

[188] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 250. 

[189] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 423, no source citations. 

[190] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citations. 

[191] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 426, 573, no citation reference. 

[192] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 256. 

[193] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 574, no citation reference. 

[194] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 575-6, no citation reference. 

[195] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 573, no citation reference. 

[196] ES XVIII 144. 

[197] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 574, no citation reference. 

[198] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 574, no citation reference. 

[199] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 576, 578 [two pages], 579, no citation references. 

[200] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 576-8, no citation reference. 

[201] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 423, 581, no citation reference. 

[202] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 581, no citation reference. 

[203] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 581-4, no citation reference. 

[204] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 423. 

[205] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 250. 

[206] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 250. 

[207] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 427, no citation reference. 

[208] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 251. 

[209] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 245. 

[210] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 589, no citation reference. 

[211] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 587, no citation reference. 

[212] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[213] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 589, no citation reference. 

[214] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 589, no citation reference. 

[215] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 591, no citation reference. 

[216] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 592, 594, no citation reference. 

[217] Lachaud (2012), p. 798. 

[218] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 594, no citation reference. 

[219] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 592, no citation reference. 

[220] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9. 

[221] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 592, no citation reference. 

[222] Lachaud (2012), p. 798. 

[223] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 589-90, no citation reference. 

[224] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 590-1, no citation reference. 

[225] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 203. 

[226] Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332. 

[227] Miller (1908), p. 230. 

[228] Hopf (1873), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177. 

[229] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271. 

[230] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 214. 

[231] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 214. 

[232] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 352, no citation reference. 

[233] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 355, no citation reference. 

[234] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 597, no citation reference. 

[235] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 245. 

[236] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 599, no citation reference. 

[237] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 597, no citation reference. 

[238] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 599, no citation reference. 

[239] Inventaire sommaire - Doubs série B (1883), Tome I, B. 28, p. 18. 

[240] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 602, no citation reference. 

[241] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 600, no citation reference. 

[242] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 602, no citation reference. 

[243] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 602, no citation reference. 

[244] Inventaire sommaire - Doubs série B (1883), Tome I, B. 533, p. 227.  

[245] Clerc (1846), Tome II, p. 251, no citation reference.  

[246] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 602, 604, no citation reference. 

[247] Buylaert (2011), p. 261. 

[248] Inventaire sommaire - Doubs série B (1883), Tome I, B. 28, p. 18. 

[249] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 599, no citation reference. 

[250] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 374-5, no citation reference. 

[251] The date of her will. 

[252] Goethals Dictionnaire, Tome II (1849), no page numbers, 462/902 in the digitalised copy. 

[253] Pêre Anselme, Tome V, pp. 645-51. 

[254] Buylaert (2011), p. 193. 

[255] Demay (1885), Tome I, 5352, p. 563. 

[256] Dictionnaire historique...de l’Aisne (1857), Tome I, p. 369. 

[257] Viard (1917), 840, col. 168. 

[258] Viard (1917), 2282, cols. 399-400. 

[259] Delisle (1867), 300, p. 91. 

[260] Viard (1937), Tome IX, V, p. 89.  

[261] Chronique Parisienne Anonyme de 1316 à 1339, 181, p. 118. 

[262] Delisle (1867), 300, p. 91. 

[263] Viard (1917), 2282, col. 400. 

[264] Viard (1917), 3989, col. 682. 

[265] Viard (1917), 5399, col. 900. 

[266] Varin (1843), Tome II, seconde partie, p. 1155, footnote, citing “Bibl. roy. de Reims, cart. X, Rogier, fol. 190”. 

[267] Varin (1843), Tome II, seconde partie, DLXIX, p. 1155. 

[268] Secousse (1758), Vol. I, p. 56. 

[269] Le Carpentier (1664), Part III, p. 670 [no source citation]. 

[270] Vallée (1984), Part 3, 6390, p. 40 (summary only of the original charter) (Père Anselme, Tome IV, p. 831, summarises this document differently). 

[271] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, Appendice, 2, p. 464. 

[272] Père Anselme, Tome IV, p. 830 (no citation reference to the source). 

[273] Demay (1885), Tome I, 5350, 5351, p. 563. 

[274] Orjo, T. d’ ‘Les Walcourt’, Le Parchemin, no. 360 (Nov-Dec 2005), pp. 447-53.  Information provided by Thierry d’Orjo by email 17 Feb 2019.  

[275] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 14, p. 33, citing “Arch. Nat., P. 183, 74”. 

[276] Longnon (1885), p. 119. 

[277] Flodoardi Annales 933, MGH SS III, p. 381. 

[278] Flodoardi Annales 945, MGH SS III, p. 392. 

[279] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 946, MGH SS XXIII, p. 765. 

[280] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[281] Flodoardi Annales 960, MGH SS III, pp. 404-5. 

[282] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[283] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[284] Flodoardi Annales 960, MGH SS III, pp. 404-5. 

[285] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ XIII.XXXIX, MGH SS XXX Part 1, p. 163. 

[286] Archives administratives de la ville de Reims, p. 91, quoted by Paolo Rossi in a private email to the author dated 30 Nov 2006. 

[287] Halphen & Lot (1908), 63, p. 149. 

[288] Gerbert, 129, p. 117. 

[289] Guadet (1845), IV, 56, p. 230. 

[290] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[291] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[292] Revue de Champagne et de Brie (1880), pp. 9 and 340 note 4, citing Bibliothèque de l’école des Hautes-Etudes, XIe fasc, p. 123 [information provided by Bert M. Kamp in a private email to the author dated 16 Oct 2011]. 

[293] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 595. 

[294] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 273. 

[295] Verdun Saint-Vanne (1898), XXXII, p. 433. 

[296] Necrology Verdun Saint-Vanne (1902), p. 147. 

[297] Flodoardi Annales 945, MGH SS III, p. 392. 

[298] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 946, MGH SS XXIII, p. 765. 

[299] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 6, MGH SS X, p. 494. 

[300] Chartes Rethel, Tome I, I, p. 1. 

[301] Marriage date range estimated from the probable birth date range of the couple's son Hugues. 

[302] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, I, p. 1. 

[303] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 3 and 9, MGH SS XIII, pp. 252 and 253. 

[304] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[305] Receuil des historiens des croisades, Histoire Occidentaux, Vol. 5, p. 631. 

[306] Runciman (1952/1978), Vol. 2, p. 36, Appendix III Genealogical Table 1. 

[307] Riley-Smith (1977), p. 171

[308] Li Estoire de Jerusalem et d'Antioche, RHC, Vol. 5, XII, p. 631 footnote j. 

[309] Verdun Sainte-Vanne, 1902, LIV, p. 77. 

[310] Verdun Sainte-Vanne, 1902, LIV, p. 77. 

[311] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, I, p. 1. 

[312] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, IV, p. 7. 

[313] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, I, p. 1. 

[314] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IV, p. 195. 

[315] Saint-Vincent de Laon, X, p. 194. 

[316] Delisle (1867), 1, p. 11. 

[317] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[318] Marriage date estimated from the probable birth date range of the couple's son Baudouin. 

[319] Ex continuatione Historiæ Aimoni Monachi Floriacensis, RHGF, Tome XI, p. 275. 

[320] William of Tyre, XII.I, p. 511. 

[321] William of Tyre, XIX.IV, p. 889. 

[322] Saint-Vincent de Laon, X, p. 194. 

[323] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IV, p. 195. 

[324] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2. 

[325] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2. 

[326] Saint-Vincent de Laon, X, p. 194. 

[327] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IV, p. 195. 

[328] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2. 

[329] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1108, MGH SS XXIII, p. 817. 

[330] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IV, p. 195. 

[331] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822. 

[332] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 507 and 508. 

[333] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822. 

[334] CP VIII 509. 

[335] Eynsham, Vol. I, 584, p. 399. 

[336] Domesday Descendants, p. 378. 

[337] Crossley & Elrington (1990), Vol. 12, p. 274

[338] Kennett (1818), p. 154, footnote. 

[339] Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum (1968), Vol. III, 140, p. 52. 

[340] Jumièges, Tome II, CI, p. 1. 

[341] Dugdale Monasticon II, Bardney Monastery, Lincolnshire, XI, p. 633. 

[342] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 12, MGH SS X, p. 498. 

[343] William of Tyre, I. XVII, p. 45. 

[344] William of Tyre, XII.I, p. 511. 

[345] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. I, p. 299. 

[346] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XI, p. 306. 

[347] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber VII, Cap. XXXI, p. 527. 

[348] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber XII, Cap. XXVIII, p. 707. 

[349] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822. 

[350] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2. 

[351] William of Tyre, XII.I, p. 511. 

[352] Fulcher III.II, p. 442. 

[353] Röhricht (Supplement) 114b p. 8. 

[354] Birth date estimated on the basis of her having started to give birth to children relatively soon after her marriage. 

[355] Rüdt-Collenberg (1963), p. 49, 6 bis

[356] Histoire de Normandie par Orderic Vital, Tome IV, Guizot, M. (1827) Collection des mémoires relatifs à l'histoire de France (Paris), Book XI, p. 235. 

[357] Rüdt-Collenberg (1963), p. 49, 6 bis

[358] Rüdt-Collenberg (1963), p. 49, 6 bis

[359] Rüdt-Collenberg (1963), p. 49, 6 bis

[360] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2. 

[361] ES III 625. 

[362] Hyde Register, p. 50. 

[363] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822. 

[364] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822. 

[365] William of Tyre XII.I, pp. 511-2. 

[366] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[367] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[368] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[369] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[370] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[371] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822. 

[372] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[373] Saint-Sépulchre de Jerusalem, 44, p. 81. 

[374] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 22. 

[375] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201. 

[376] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595. 

[377] Delisle (1867), 2, p. 12. 

[378] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VI, p. 10. 

[379] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116 and 1168, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 822 and 851-2. 

[380] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[381] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201. 

[382] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595. 

[383] Romoaldi Annales, MGH SS XIX, p. 425. 

[384] Romualdo Guarna (1845), p. 16. 

[385] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[386] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[387] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[388] Date calculated back from his date of death 27 Feb 1154, at the age of 58 years, two months and 5 days according to the chronicle of Romuald of Salerno, quoted by Houben (2002), p. 31.  

[389] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201. 

[390] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201. 

[391] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[392] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[393] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595. 

[394] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IX, p. 201. 

[395] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[396] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[397] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[398] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[399] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595. 

[400] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IX, p. 201. 

[401] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15. 

[402] Delisle (1867), 3, p. 13. 

[403] Delisle (1867), 4, p. 13. 

[404] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[405] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595. 

[406] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IX, p. 201. 

[407] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15. 

[408] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[409] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[410] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878. 

[411] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[412] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103. 

[413] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[414] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159. 

[415] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[416] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[417] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[418] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[419] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IX, p. 201. 

[420] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15. 

[421] Delisle (1867), 3, p. 13. 

[422] Delisle (1867), 4, p. 13. 

[423] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XIII, p. 28. 

[424] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.