This document shows the Comtes de Valois et du Vexin and the Comtes de Vermandois. The county of Valois was located south-west of the county of Soissons and south-east of the county of Clermont. The Vexin lay south-west of Beauvais on the border of the duchy of Normandy. In the 11th century Vexin was held by the Comtes de Valois. The county of Vermandois lay north and west of the county of Laon and east of Amiens, straddling the present-day French départements of Oise and Aisne. Héribert [VI] Comte de Vermandois acquired Valois by marriage and the two counties continued to be ruled by the same families until the early 13th century.

Chapter 1. COMTES de VALOIS et du VEXIN

A. COMTES de VALOIS et du VEXIN

RAOUL de Mantes, son of GAUTHIER [II] "le Blanc" Comte d’Amiens et du Vexin, Comte de Mantes & his wife Adela --- (-1060). "Walterius comes" donated property "prope nostrum castellum…Medanta" to "Carnotensi monasterio Sancti Petri", for the soul of "coniugis mee Adelidis filiorumque meorum", by charter to [1006], signed by "Walterii comitis, Rodulfi filii eius, Drogonis filii eius…"[1]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Rodulfum" as son of "Gauterus Albus de Albamarla"[2]. Robert II King of France confirmed to the abbot of Saint-Germain and Saint-Vincent that he had forced “noster comes Drogo...cum duobus fratribus Fulcone...et Rodulfo necnon uxore cum filiis supramemorati Drogonis” to renounce rights to revenue from “in villa...Domni Martini...” to Saint-Germain-des-Prés by charter dated [1 Jan/1 Mar]1031[3]. Comte de Valois et d'Amiens.

m [--- de Breteuil, daughter of HILDUIN [Gilduin] de Breteuil Vicomte de Chartres & his wife Emmeline de [Châteaudun] (-11 Sep 1051). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified. Du Chesne states that "Raoul frere de Dreux Comte de Vexin" married “la fille de Gelduin ou Hilduin Comte de Breteuil et de Clermont en Beauvoisin” who brought “la terre de Nanteuil surnommée de là Nanteuil le Hildouin en mémoire du Comte Hilduin son pere” but does not cite the corresponding primary source[4]. Du Chesne does not name her.]

Comte Raoul & his wife had one child:

1. RAOUL [III] “le Grand” de Valois (-Péronne 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074, bur Montdidier, later transferred to Crépy-en-Valois, église collégiale Saint-Arnoul). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Rodulfum" as son of "Rodulfum [filii Gauteri Albus de Albamarla]"[5]. He succeeded [1030/35] as Comte de Valois. He headed the resistance to Henri I King of France from the death of Eudes II Comte de Blois in 1038, and as such led the campaigns of Beauvaisis in 1041[6]. He succeeded his cousin Gauthier [III] as Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin. "Comes Rodulfus et filius meus Walterus et Simon…" donated property to Montiérender by undated charter[7]. First conseiller in the royal council, he was one of the most powerful and influential nobles in the kingdom. He was excommunicated because of the scandal of his third marriage, he reappeared at court only in 1070. "Rodulphus…Ambianensis comes" donated property “ad Conteiense castellum” to Sainte-Marie d'Amiens, with the consent of "Simon filius meus et Gualterus, Gualteri Tyrelli natus", by charter dated 1069, subscribed by "Radulphus comes, Anna uxor eius, Gualterus Tirelli filius, Symon comitis filius..."[8]. The consent given by Gauthier Tirell suggests that he and Comte Raoul [III] held an interest in the property at Conty jointly, but if this is correct the family relationship between them has not been traced. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Radulfus comes" died "VIII Kal Mar"[9]. m firstly ([1041/45]) as her fourth husband, AELIS de Bar-sur-Aube, widow firstly of RENAUD de Semur-en-Brionnais, secondly of RENARD Comte de Joigny and thirdly of ROGER [I] avoué de Vignory, daughter and heiress of NOCHER [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube et de Vitry-en-Perthois & his wife --- (([1020/25]-11 Sep 1053). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adala" wife of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and mother of "Symonem et filiam…Adala", but does not give her origin[10]. The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Rodulpho (Simonis genitori)" married three wives, firstly "Adela, Nocheri Barrensis ad Albam comitis filia, Notheri comitis Suessionum neptis, Archardi proneptis" who had previously married "Rainaldum de Sinemuro, Rainardum comitem de Jooniaco, Rotgerium de Wangionis ripa"[11]. Her marital history is recorded in the Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois: after the death of her first husband, "Rodulfus comes Calvimontis Vallis Cassini" [identified as her future fourth husband] visited "castellum Barri" who proposed marriage, the ceremony to take place after his return from a pilgrimage to Rome, but as the proposal displeased "primoribus terræ illius" they married her during Raoul’s absence to "Rainardo comiti de Jooniaco". After Raoul returned, he besieged "Jooniacum castellum" and abducted Aelis to "castello Firmitatis", wanting to assure himself that she was not pregnant before marrying her. While there, the inhabitants of Bar-sur-Aube married her again to "Rotgerio de Wangionis ripa", after which Raoul ravaged the countryside until they returned Aelis to him[12]. Her son "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter[13]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Adelina comitissa" died "III Id Sep"[14]. m secondly (repudiated 1060) ---["Haquenez"], daughter of ---. Europäische Stammtafeln names “Haquenez” as second wife of Raoul [III], adding that she was repudiated and died after 1061[15]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. She is named as such in numerous secondary sources published over the last two centuries, which sometimes also call her “Eléonore”, but none has been found which cites a primary source providing the basis for these names. Pope Alexander II wrote to Gervais Archbishop of Reims in 1062 recording that "comes Radulfus" had repudiated his (unnamed) wife on false charges of adultery and requiring him to take her back[16]. m thirdly ([1061]) as her second husband, ANNA Iaroslavna, widow of HENRI I King of France, daughter of IAROSLAV I Vladimirovich "Mudriy/the Wise" Grand Prince of Kiev & his second wife Ingigerd Olafsdottir of Sweden (1036-5 Sep ([1075/78], bur Abbaye Villiers near La-Ferté-Alais). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum records the marriage of "filiam regis Russorum Annam" with King Henri[17]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Anna filia Georgii regis Sclavonum" as wife of King Henri[18]. Consecrated Queen Consort at Reims on her wedding day. Queen Anna caused a scandal in France by her second marriage and was forced to leave the court, although she returned after her second husband's death in 1074[19]. The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum records the marriage of "Anna, Henrici relicta" and "Rodulfo comitis"[20]. "Rodulphus…Ambianensis comes" donated property to Sainte-Marie d'Amiens, with the consent of "Simon filius meus et Gualterus, Gualteri Tyrelli natus", by charter dated 1069, subscribed by "Anna uxor eius"[21]. Comte Raoul III & his first wife had five children:

a) GAUTHIER de Valois (-killed in battle 6 Sep [1065/1067]). "Comes Rodulfus et filius meus Walterus et Simon…" donated property to Montiérender by undated charter[22]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Walterius comes" died "VIII Id Sep"[23]. Comte [de Bar-sur-Aube]. As his father was still alive at the time, it is supposed that Gauthier’s county was Bar-sur-Aube, inherited from his mother, but this is not beyond all doubt.

b) SIMON de Valois (-Rome [30 Sep/1 Oct] 1080, bur 1082 Rome St Peter). "Comes Rodulfus et filius meus Walterus et Simon…" donated property to Montiérender by undated charter[24]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam…Adala" children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[25]. "Rodulphus…Ambianensis comes" donated property to Sainte-Marie d'Amiens, with the consent of "Simon filius meus et Gualterus, Gualteri Tyrelli natus", by charter dated 1069, subscribed by "Anna uxor eius"[26]. Comte de Valois, d'Amiens, et de Montdidier, Comte de Bar-sur-Aube. The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names "Symon filius eius" as successor of "Vadensium comes Rodulfus", recording that he resigned the county and went on a pilgrimage to Rome where he died and was buried "in portico sancti Petri"[27]. He was educated by Mathilde de Flandre, wife of William I King of England, but rejected the betrothal to his daughter[28]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter[29]. He resigned his counties in 1077 and became a monk. "Symon comes…effectus monacus" is named in a charter dated [1076?] under which Philippe I King of France confirmed his donations to Cluny[30]. He went on pilgrimage to Rome where he died[31]. The necrology of the Priory of Saint-Martin-des-Champs records the death "Kal Oct" of "Simon comes"[32]. [Betrothed ([after 1069]) to AGATHE de Normandie, daughter of WILLIAM I King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre ([1064]-before 1074, bur Bayeux Cathedral). The Vita Simonis records a ficitional speech of William I King of England in which he offers his (unnamed) daughter's hand to Simon, specifying that she had previously been betrothed to "regis Hispaniarum Anfursi et Roberti principis Apuliæ"[33]. The supposed betrothal to Robert of Apulia (which would have to be Robert "Guiscard" Duke of Apulia) is unrecorded in the numerous other sources dealing with his life and is probably pure fiction. This does not inspire confidence with respect to the historical accuracy of the whole passage, but if it is correct the daughter in question would presumably have been Agatha whose betrothal to "Amfursio regi Galliciæ" (presumably Alfonso VI King of Galicia and León, later King of Castile) is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[34].] Betrothed (before 1077) to --- de la Marche, daughter of AUDEBERT [II] Comte de la Marche et du Périgueux & his wife Ponce ---. The Vita Simonis, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, records the betrothal of "comes Symon" and "filiam comitis Hildeberti de Alvernis", specifying that Simon fled "ad monasterio de Casa Dei" without his father's knowledge before the marriage[35].

c) ADELAIS de Valois (-after 1077). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam…Adala" as children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[36]. Her marriage is confirmed by an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[37]. Ctss de Valois. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[38]. m ([1059 or before]) HERIBERT [VI] Comte de Vermandois, son of EUDES Comte de Vermandois & his wife Pavia --- ([1032]-[1080]).

d) [ADELA [Alix] de Valois (-12 May [1093/1100], bur Saint-Faron). It is unclear whether the [second/third] wife of Thibaut III Comte de Blois could have been the daughter of Comte Raoul [III]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydis soror sancti Symonis" as wife of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo", although he confuses her with her supposed niece Adelais, daughter of Héribert [IV] Comte de Vermandois, saying that she married "Hugoni fratri regis Philippi" after the death of her husband[39]. The difficulty with Alberic’s statement is an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[40]. If the wife of Comte Thibaut III had been another daughter of Raoul [III], it is unclear why he would have been omitted from this document which appears to indicate clearly that Raoul had only two sons-in-law. Nevertheless, a close relationship with the family of the comtes de Valois is indicated by a charter dated to [1077/81] under which "Teobaudus comes palatinus…cum mulierum Adelaide" donated property to Montiérender, naming "bone memorie predecessorum…patris sui Odonis comitis et Heriberto cognomento senioris…comes Rodulfus predecessor suus et propinquus"[41], the latter presumably referring to Comte Raoul [III]. In addition, Comte Thibaut acquired the county of Bar-sur-Aube. If he had not been Raoul’s son-in-law, the basis for this acquisition is unclear. "Adeladis comitisse" subscribed the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Tetbaldi comitis, Stephani comitis"[42], it being assumed that she was the wife of the former not the latter. The necrology of Saint-Loup, Troyes records the death "XII Mai" of "Aalais uxor Theobaudi comitis Campaniæ" and her burial "in monasterio Sancti Faronis"[43]. m (before 1061) as his [second/third] wife, THIBAUT III Comte de Blois, Chartres et Champagne, son of EUDES II Comte de Blois, Chartres, Troyes et Champagne & his second wife Ermengarde d'Auvergne ([1010]-29/30 Sep 1089).]

e) [ELISABETH] de Valois (-[12 May 1093/1101]). The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois records that "Aaliz" daughter of Raoul Comte de Valois and his first wife married "Bartolomeus, juvenis de Breias" by whom she was mother of "Hugonem Bardoul"[44]. It is unclear from the text whether this statement is based on primary source data. It is assumed that the name "Aaliz" is an error as the couple is already recorded elsewhere with daughters named Adelais, Adela/Alix. Her marriage is confirmed by an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[45]. Dame de Châteauvillain et d'Arc-en-Barrois. m BARTHELEMY Seigneur de Broyes et de Beaufort, son of HUGUES [I] "Bardoul" Seigneur de Broyes, de Beaufort et de Pithiviers & his wife --- (-after 1072).

B. VICOMTES du VEXIN

Two brothers:

1. HUGUES . Vicomte de Vexin. A charter dated 1034 records the settlement of claims by "Hugone vicecomiti Vilcasini" over "terra Sancti Petri Gisiacensi", with the consent of "senioris sui comitis Droconis", witnessed by "Gualerannus frater ipsius vicecomitis, Richardus de Nielfa consanguineus eius, Sanson vicecomes de Medanta…Teduinus vicecomes, Amelius frater eius…Rodulfus delicatus…"[46].

2. WALERAN . A charter dated 1034 records the settlement of claims by "Hugone vicecomiti Vilcasini" over "terra Sancti Petri Gisiacensi", with the consent of "senioris sui comitis Droconis", witnessed by "Gualerannus frater ipsius vicecomitis, Richardus de Nielfa consanguineus eius, Sanson vicecomes de Medanta…Teduinus vicecomes, Amelius frater eius…Rodulfus delicatus…"[47].

Chapter 2. NOBILITY in VEXIN

A. SEIGNEURS de CHAUMONT-en-VEXIN

This family is shown by Kerrebrouck, who cites few primary sources other than as indicated below[48]. It has not yet been possible to identify the primary sources which confirm the parentage and marriages of the members of this family, unless otherwise stated below.

HENRI de Vermandois, son of HUGUES [I] de France Comte de Vermandois [Capet] & his wife Adelais Ctss de Vermandois (-killed in battle 1130). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names (in order) "Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem" as the sons of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium"[49]. Orderic Vitalis records that in 1096 "Hugo Crispeii comes" placed "Radulfo et Henrico filiis suis" in charge of his land, married "Ysabel filiam suam" to "Rodberto de Mellento comiti", and left on pilgrimage taking "secum nobile agmen Francorum"[50]. Seigneur de Chaumont-en-Vexin 1096. "Adela…Viromandorum comitissa, filius…meus Radulphus" renounced their claim to certain serfs in favour of the abbey of Compiègne Saint-Corneille, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Radulphi, Henrici, Symonis", by charter dated 1114[51]. He was killed fighting Thomas de Marle during the war against Charles I " le Bon" Count of Flanders[52].

m ---. The name of Henri's wife is not known. 1140.

Henri & his wife had two children:

1. HUGUES [I] de Chaumont (-before 1170). He succeeded his father in 1130 as Seigneur de Chaumont. m ---. The name of Hugues's wife is not known. Hugues [I] & his wife had two children:

a) HUGUES [II] de Chaumont (-after 1196). He succeeded his father in [1170] as Seigneur de Chaumont. Matthew Paris records that "Hugo de Calvo monte, regi Francorum valde carus et familiaris" was captured in 1196 by supporters of Richard I King of England and imprisoned at “castellum...de Bona villa supra Tuke” [Bonneville sur la Touque] but escaped after bribing his guard “Willelmo de Spineto”[53]. m ---. The name of Hugues's wife is not known. Hugues [II] & his wife had five children:

i) PHILIPPE de Chaumont (-after [1235][54]). He made a donation to the church of Louversey, diocese of Soissons, in 1209[55]. m ---. The name of Philippe's wife is not known. Philippe & his wife had four children:

(a) GUY de Chaumont (-after 1266). In 1250 he sold his land at Louversey inherited from his father and his uncle Renaud Seigneur de Louversey [56].

(b) JACQUES de Chaumont (-after 1250). He was a guarantor of the 1250 sale by his brother Guy1624.

(d) MARGUERITE de Chaumont ([after 1235]-after 1266). Mentioned as a minor in 1250, cited again in 12661625.

ii) RENAUD de Chaumont (-after 1209). Seigneur de Louversey (part), he was named in the 1209 donation of his brother to the church of Louversey[58]. His nephew Guy de Chaumont inherited his property at Louversey so presumably Renaud died without issue. m BEATRIX, daughter of ---.

iii) ROBERT de Chaumont (-after Jul 1215). According to Kerrebrouck[59], he was named in Jul 1215 as witness to the treaty between Eléonore Ctss de Vermandois and Philippe II King of France but there is presumably an error in this date assuming that Ctss Eléonore did die in 1213 as shown above.

iv) THIBAUT de Chaumont. 1209.

v) MATHILDE de Chaumont. 1209.

b) PHILIPPE de Chaumont (-after [1170]). He was brought up with Henri Archbishop of Reims[60]. Arnoul Bishop of Lisieux recommended “Philippum...de Chaumont...in actibus eius regii sanguinis refulgebat excellencia” to Henri Archbishop of Reims in a letter dated to [1170][61].

2. GAUTHIER de Chaumont (-after 1150). Saint Bernard wrote his 104^th letter to him in 1150[62].

B. VICOMTES de CHAUMONT-en-VEXIN

The primary sources which confirm the parentage and marriages of the members of this family have not been identified, unless otherwise stated below.

1. GALON [I] (-after Feb 1055). Vicomte de Chaumont. "Teduinus vicecomes Mellenti castri, Gualo vicecomes castri Calidi Montis, Nivardus de Monte Forti, Radulfus Malus Vicinus…Radulfus Delicatus" witnessed the charter dated Feb 1055 under which "comes Walterius" donated "æcclesiam Ledonis Curiæ" to Chartres Saint-Père[63].

2. GEOFFROY [de Chaumont] (-after 1079). “...Gotfridus de Calmonte, Symon de Monteforti, Herveus de Galardone” subscribed the charter dated 1078 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the donation made by “quendam hominem de Pissiaco, Hylduinum...” to Paris Saint-Magloire[64]. “...comes Ivo de Belmonte, Albericus de Cociaco, Gaufridus de Calmonte...” subscribed the charter dated Jan 1079 under which Philippe I King of France restricted the jurisdiction of Beauvais Saint-Quentin[65]. Père Anselme identifies Geoffroy as “seigneur de Caumont” in Gascony (see the document GASCONY)[66]. The other subscribers of the two charters quoted above were noblemen in the region of Paris. It seems more likely that “Gotfridus de Calmonte” was from the same region. One possibility is that “Calmonte” indicated Chaumont not Caumont. This possibility appears supported by Père Anselme linking Geoffroy to “Calo seigneur de Caumont” and “Calo II seigneur de Caumont” who can be identified as Galon [I] Vicomte de Chaumont and Galon [II] Vicomte de Chaumont (see above and below).

EUDES [Odo] de Beaumont, son of IVES [I] Comte de Beaumont & his wife Emma --- (-1088 or after). "Comes Ivo cum filio meo simili nomine…clerico et canonico…cum mea propria conjuge Emma et ceteris omnibus meis liberis" donated "castrum Confluentie" to Saint-Wandrigisel by charter dated 1039, signed by "Ivo…comes…Ivo clericus…comes Goffredus, Albericus, Gelduini vicecomitis…Odonis filii supradicti comitis, Gosberti fratris eiusdem Odonis"[67]. Camerarius 1059. Vicomte de Chaumont-en-Vexin 1068/88.

m ---. The name of Eudes's wife is not known.

Eudes & his wife had two children:

1. GALON [II] de Beaumont (-after 1 Jul 1097). "…Gualo filius Odonis de Calvomonte…" witnessed the charter dated 1085 under which Philippe I King of France donated property to Bec[68]. Vicomte de Chaumont. Connétable 1085. William of Tyre names "Galo de Calvo Monte" among those who left on the First Crusade in 1096 with Robert Count of Flanders[69]. Albert of Aix names "…Walo de Calmunt…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[70]. Albert of Aix records that "…Walo de Calmunt…" fought against the Turks at Dorylæum (1 Jul 1097)[71]. m HUMBERGE du Puiset, daughter of HUGUES [I] "Blavons" de Breteuil Châtelain du Puiset Vicomte de Chartres & his wife Alix de Montlhéry. The donation of property to "sancti Petro" by "Hugo vicecomes" is recorded in a charter dated 1096, subscribed by "Adelidis uxor vicecomitis, filii eorum, Ebrardus, Hugo, Guiddo et filia Unberga"[72]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified. 1094. Galon [II] & his wife had three children:

a) DREUX de Chaumont (-after 1099). "Drogo filius Walonis de Calvomonte" confirmed a donation of property to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise by "Willelmus qui agnominabatur Aculeius", with the consent of his unnamed wife and sons, by charter dated to after 1099[73].

- SEIGNEURS de TRIE.

b) HUGUES "Panis avena" . The Chroniques de St. Germer record that "Hugo de Calvomonte dictus Panis Avenæ, Galonis filius, Drogonis frater…patruus Ingelramni de Calvomonte seu de Tria" requested his brother to donate property to the abbey[74]. Provost at Saint-Germer [1115].

c) HUMBERGE . before 1089.

2. ROLANDE de Beaumont . Orderic Vitalis names "Rollandis filia Odonis de Calvomonte" as the wife of "Herbertum pincernum" and their children "Godefridum et Petrum, Joannemque et Walonem, et filias plures"[75]. The same source gives some details of her husband’s family background: Orderic Vitalis records that “Richardus de Heldrici-Corte [Heudicourt] nobilis miles de pago Vilcassino” was wounded when he fled with “Hugonem et Radulfum comitem Medantensium” after they were accused of sedition and that he became a monk at Ouche, and in a later passage that “Herbertum pincernam”, after the death of “Herberti cognati sui, fratris...Ricardi vulnerati”, donated half his fief to Ouche[76]. [Orderic Vitalis names "…Odmundus de Calvimonte…Godefridus et Petrus filii Herberti de Serranz" among those who defended le Vexin in 997[77], presumably referring to ancestors of Rolande’s husband.] m HERBERT Le Bouteiller Seigneur de Serans, son of ---.

The exact relationship between Hugues [I] and the preceding family is not known, but it appears likely that he was a younger brother of Galon [II] who succeeded as vicomte after the premature death of Galon’s older son who left infant children.

1. HUGUES [I] "Strabo" de Chaumont (-1149 or after). Vicomte de Chaumont. "Hugo vicecomes de Calvomonte…" consented to the charter dated to [1110/24] under which "Hubertus Bucellus" gave his son as a monk to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise[78]. Connétable de France 1108-37. "…Hugonis constabularii…" subscribed the charter dated 1119 under which Louis VI King of France granted privileges to the priory of Saint-Laurent des Orgerils at Orléans[79]. "…Hugonis constabularii…" subscribed the charter dated 1136 issued by Louis VI King of France relating to the priory of Juvisi[80]. m LUCE, daughter of ---. Hugues [II] & his wife had four children:

a) GUERIN (-before 31 Mar 1149).

b) GALON [III] de Chaumont (-[1175/82]). “Galo de Calvomonte filius Hugonis cognomento Borgnii” confirmed donations to Flavigny made by “pater eius, Jerusalem profecturus” by undated charter[81]. Vicomte de Chaumont. m MATHILDE, daughter of [HUGUES de Gisors] & his wife Mathilde ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 1175 under which “Johannes de Gisortio” exchanged a donation to Pontoise Saint-Martin made by “matrem meam dominam Mathildam de Gisortio”, witnessed by “Dnus Engelramnus Aculeus cognatus meus germanus, Domnus Galo de Calvomonte sororius meus...”[82], although it is possible that Mathilde was born from an otherwise second marriage of her mother. "Domina Matildis de Chaumont" donated harvest from property "in grangia sua de Latroe" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Hugo de Chaumunt prefate domine filius et heres et uxor mea Petronilla", by charter dated 1199[83]. 1169/1199. Galon [III] & his wife had three children:

i) HUGUES [III] de Chaumont (-[1209/10]). "Domina Matildis de Chaumont" donated harvest from property "in grangia sua de Latroe" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Hugo de Chaumunt prefate domine filius et heres et uxor mea Petronilla", by charter dated 1199[84]. Vicomte de Chaumont. He founded the abbey of Gomerfontaine in 1170[85]. “Hugo de Calvomonte cum filiis meis Joanne, Jacobo et Egidio” donated property to Saint-Germer by charter dated 1200[86]. m (before 1199) PETRONILLE de Poissy, daughter of GASCE [V] de Poissy & his wife Jacqueline --- (-after 1223). An undated charter records toll exemptions granted to Bec by "Wasco de Pixeio", with the consent of "Iachelinæ uxoris meæ…et filiorum meorum Wasconis et Roberti et filiæ Petronillæ"[87]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified. "Domina Matildis de Chaumont" donated harvest from property "in grangia sua de Latroe" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Hugo de Chaumunt prefate domine filius et heres et uxor mea Petronilla", by charter dated 1199[88]. “Petronilla de Calvomonte domina” donated property, with the consent of “Joannis de Calvomonte militis domini Melloti filii mei et...Ade uxoris sue”, by charter dated 1223[89]. Hugues [III] & his wife had six children:

(a) JEAN de Chaumont (-before 1239). “Joannes filius domini Hugonis de Calvomonte” donated property to Saint-Germer, with the consent of “Jacobi et Egidii aliorum que fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1214[90]. He became Seigneur de Mello, de iure uxoris, and transmitted the seigneurie to their children. “Petronilla de Calvomonte domina” donated property, with the consent of “Joannis de Calvomonte militis domini Melloti filii mei et...Ade uxoris sue”, by charter dated 1223[91]. m ([1222/23]) as her second husband, ADA, widow of GUILLAUME Seigneur de Mello, daughter of ---. “Ada domina de Merlotto” confirmed the donation of flour from the mill at Bulles to Froidmont made by “Guillaume son mari” by charter dated 1222[92]. “Petronilla de Calvomonte domina” donated property, with the consent of “Joannis de Calvomonte militis domini Melloti filii mei et...Ade uxoris sue”, by charter dated 1223[93].

- SEIGNEURS de MELLO, SEIGNEURS de SAUCOURT[94].

(b) JACQUES de Chaumont (-before 1222). “Joannes filius domini Hugonis de Calvomonte” donated property to Saint-Germer, with the consent of “Jacobi et Egidii aliorum que fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1214[95]. A charter dated 1222 names “Joannes de Calvomonte miles, Jacobus frater eius defunctus”[96].

(c) GILLES de Chaumont . “Joannes filius domini Hugonis de Calvomonte” donated property to Saint-Germer, with the consent of “Jacobi et Egidii aliorum que fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1214[97]. “Gilles et Gervais” brothers of Jean sold property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “leurs frères Hugues et Gascion”, by charter dated 1224[98].

(d) GERVAIS de Chaumont . “Gilles et Gervais” brothers of Jean sold property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “leurs frères Hugues et Gascion”, by charter dated 1224[99].

(e) HUGUES de Chaumont . “Gilles et Gervais” brothers of Jean sold property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “leurs frères Hugues et Gascion”, by charter dated 1224[100].

(f) GASCE de Chaumont . “Gilles et Gervais” brothers of Jean sold property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “leurs frères Hugues et Gascion”, by charter dated 1224[101].

ii) JEANNE . m GERVAIS de Mouy, son of ---.

iii) IDOINE . m ROGER de Maule, son of ---. 1195/1200.

c) EUDES . 1149.

d) HUGUES . 1149.

C. SEIGNEURS de CHAUMONT-GUITRY [en-Vexin]

1. ROBERT "Eloquens" de Chaumont (-bur Aillerie, near Chaumont). Orderic Vitalis records that "Rodbertus Eloquens de Calvimonte, qui capitalis dominus erat" confirmed donations made by "Fulcoius, Radulphi de Caldreio filius" to the church of Saint-Martin de Parnes, but soon afterwards after falling from his horse on campaign and was buried "apud Alliarias…in capitulo Flaviacensium fratrum", in a passage dated to [1066/89][102]. m --- de Guitry, daughter of NICOLAS de Guitry & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the undated charter under which [her father] "Nicholaus filius...Baldrici...filius meus Rogerus" donated "ecclesiam...in villa...Chitrei" to found the priory of Saint-Wandrille[103], read together with the undated charter under which [her son] "Otmundus et utrique filii eius Willelmus et Otmundus" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam...in villa...Chitrei" to found the priory of Saint-Wandrille made by “avus eorum Nicholaus”[104]. Robert & his wife had three children:

a) OSMOND [I] de Chaumont (-after 1112). "Otmundus et utrique filii eius Willelmus et Otmundus" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam...in villa...Chitrei" to found the priory of Saint-Wandrille made by “avus eorum Nicholaus” by undated charter, witnessed by “Rotbertus frater Otmundi...”[105]. Orderic Vitalis records that, after the death of their father "Rodbertus Eloquens de Calvimonte, qui capitalis dominus erat", "filii eius Otmundus de Calvimonte et Waszo de Pexeio et Rotbertus Belvancensis" confirmed donations to "Sancto Ebrulfo", in a passage dated to [1066/89][106]. Orderic Vitalis names "Rodbertus...de Maldestorn et Odmundus de Calvimonte, Gualbertus de Burris et Ricardus frater eius, Godefredus et Petrus filii Herberti de Serranz, militæ Vilcassinorum" as defenders of Vexin against the English, dated to [1097][107]. "Otmundo ipsi castri domino, Roberto fratre eius, et Watho de Pissiaco...…" witnessed the charter dated 15 Oct 1098 “apud Calvum Montem” under which "Wiardus filius Drogonis de Coflente" renounced claims over “Ledonis Curtis” in favour of Chartres Saint-Père[108]. "Osmundus de Calvo Monte" consented to the donation made by “Hugo de Marinis” of revenue from "molendino...in stagno...sub Calvo Monte" to “sancto Petro Ledonis Curie”, by charter dated to before 1112[109]. “...Hothmundus de Calvomonte...” witnessed the charter dated 1112 under which Louis VI King of France confirmed the possessions of “Henricus...Lotheringus” in Paris[110]. m ---. The name of Osmond’s wife is not known. Depoin cites donations included in the cartulaire de Préaux made by "Osmundus cubicularius" his mother "Hadvide" and his three sons “Roger et Robert prêtres et Guillaume laïc”, suggesting that they may be part of the Chaumont family[111]. Osmond [I] & his wife had two children:

i) GUILLAUME [I] de Chaumont (-[before 13 Apr 1175]). "Guillelmus filius Osmundi de Calvo Monte", who had married “filiam Ludovici regis”, donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 9 Apr 1119, which records "…Gaulterius de Monte Falconis, Haimo filius eius" as present[112].

- see below.

ii) OSMOND [II] (-7 Sep ----). The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "VII Id Sep" of "Osmundus miles" and the donation of "ecclesie...de Leoniscuria" made for his soul by “Willermus frater suus”[113].

b) GASCE [II] de Poissy (-after 1117). Orderic Vitalis records that, after the death of their father "Rodbertus Eloquens de Calvimonte, qui capitalis dominus erat", "filii eius Otmundus de Calvimonte et Waszo de Pexeio et Rotbertus Belvancensis" confirmed donations to "Sancto Ebrulfo", in a passage dated to [1066/89][114]. "Otmundo ipsi castri domino, Roberto fratre eius, et Watho de Pissiaco...…" witnessed the charter dated 15 Oct 1098 “apud Calvum Montem” under which "Wiardus filius Drogonis de Coflente" renounced claims over “Ledonis Curtis” in favour of Chartres Saint-Père[115].

- SEIGNEURS de POISSY.

c) ROBERT de Beauvais (-after [1116]). Orderic Vitalis records that, after the death of their father "Rodbertus Eloquens de Calvimonte, qui capitalis dominus erat", "filii eius Otmundus de Calvimonte et Waszo de Pexeio et Rotbertus Belvancensis" confirmed donations to "Sancto Ebrulfo", in a passage dated to [1066/89][116]. "Otmundo ipsi castri domino, Roberto fratre eius, et Watho de Pissiaco...…" witnessed the charter dated 15 Oct 1098 “apud Calvum Montem” under which "Wiardus filius Drogonis de Coflente" renounced claims over “Ledonis Curtis” in favour of Chartres Saint-Père[117]. Vidame de Gerberoy.

- VIDAMES de GERBEROY.

GUILLAUME [I] de Chaumont, son of OSMOND [I] de Chaumont & his wife --- (-[before 13 Apr 1175]). "Guillelmus de Caluimonte" was son-in-law of Louis VI King of France according to Orderic Vitalis, who says that he was captured while trying to take the castle of Tillières in 1119 and ransomed for 200 marks of silver[118]. "Guillelmus filius Osmundi de Calvo Monte", who had married “filiam Ludovici regis”, donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 9 Apr 1119, which records "…Gaulterius de Monte Falconis, Haimo filius eius" as present[119]. Orderic Vitalis records that in 1137 King Stephen destroyed "munitionem Chitreii...spelunca latronum" [castle of Guitry, den of thieves] and "Guillelmus de Calvimonte cum Odmundo filio suo" rebelled[120]. "...Willelmus filius Osmundi..." subscribed the charter dated to before 1151 under which Hugues Archbishop of Rouen granted "ecclesiam...Virginis Mariæ...Maldestor" to Pontoise Saint-Martin[121].

m ([1114/17]) ISABELLE, illegitimate daughter of LOUIS VI King of France & his mistress Marie de Breuillet (after [1101/04] before 1108-5 Aug, after 13 Apr 1175). Louis VI King of France donated property to Chartres Saint-Père when "filiam meam" married “Willelmo, Othmundi filio”, and now confirmed the donation, by charter dated 6 Jan 1118[122]. "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the souls of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[123]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "Non Aug" of "Isabella nobilis matrona de Calvomonte"[124].

Guillaume & his wife had seven children:

1. OSMOND [III] de Chaumont . Orderic Vitalis records that in 1137 King Stephen destroyed "munitionem Chitreii...spelunca latronum" [castle of Guitry, den of thieves] and "Guillelmus de Calvimonte cum Odmundo filio suo" rebelled[125]. It is assumed that this Osmond was a different person from Osmond who subscribed the 1175 charter of Isabelle, as the second Osmond signed last in the list of subscribers indicating junior status. The older Osmond presumably died young, maybe the father of Robert “le Roux” (or of his wife) whose son Guillaume succeeded to the seigneurie de Guitry (see below).

2. LOUIS (-after 6 Dec 1208). "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the soul of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[126]. Seigneur de Montjavoult. "Guillaume de Chaumont chevalier fils de Robert le Roux du consentement de Robert son frère" ratified the donation, made by “Louis chevalier de Montgeuvol son oncle” to Saint-Germer on becoming a monk there with the consent of "Robert son frère...Guillaume, Thibaut et Raoul ses fils", by charter dated 6 Dec 1208[127]. m ---. The name of Louis’s wife is not known. Louis & his wife had three children:

a) GUILLAUME . "Guillaume de Chaumont chevalier fils de Robert le Roux du consentement de Robert son frère" ratified the donation, made by “Louis chevalier de Montgeuvol son oncle” to Saint-Germer on becoming a monk there with the consent of "Robert son frère...Guillaume, Thibaut et Raoul ses fils", by charter dated 6 Dec 1208[128].

b) THIBAUT . "Guillaume de Chaumont chevalier fils de Robert le Roux du consentement de Robert son frère" ratified the donation, made by “Louis chevalier de Montgeuvol son oncle” to Saint-Germer on becoming a monk there with the consent of "Robert son frère...Guillaume, Thibaut et Raoul ses fils", by charter dated 6 Dec 1208[129].

c) RAOUL . "Guillaume de Chaumont chevalier fils de Robert le Roux du consentement de Robert son frère" ratified the donation, made by “Louis chevalier de Montgeuvol son oncle” to Saint-Germer on becoming a monk there with the consent of "Robert son frère...Guillaume, Thibaut et Raoul ses fils", by charter dated 6 Dec 1208[130].

3. PHILIPPE (-after 1175). "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the soul of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[131].

4. GASCE (-after 1175). "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the soul of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[132].

5. BAUDRY (-after 1175). "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the soul of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[133].

6. HUGUES (-after 1175). "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the soul of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[134].

7. OSMOND (-after 1175). "Isabel de Calvo Monte" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 1175 for the soul of "patris mei Lugdovici…regis Francorum…et…Willelmi filii Osmondi et Rainaldi de Braileic", with the consent of “filiorum meorum”, subscribed by "Lugdovici filii eius, Philippi clerici, Gasthonis militis, Baudrici militis, Hugonis militis, Osmundi militis"[135].

It is assumed that Robert “le Roux” (or his wife) was the child of Osmond [III] de Chaumont, shown above, who presumably predeceased his father. The relationship between the two families is confirmed by the charter dated 6 Dec 1208, quoted below, in which Guillaume [II] de Chaumont refers to Louis de Chaumont Seigneur de Montjavoult as his uncle.

1. ROBERT “le Roux” . An undated charter records that "Odo Malewaegne de Kytreio" donated "terre...ex dono Roberti Ruffi de Calmont" to Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Willelmus de Calmont filius Roberti Ruffi”[136]. m ---. The name of Robert’s wife is not known but, as noted above, she may have been the daughter of Guillaume de Chaumont and his wife Isabelle. Robert & his wife had three children:

a) GUILLAUME [II] de Chaumont (-[Nov 1220/1224]). "Willelmi [de Calvomonte] filii Roberti Ruffi" donated "pratum de feudo Odonis Malegaigne" to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated 1179[137]. "Willelmus de Caumont filius Roberti Ruffi" donated wood "in bosco meo...[et] Campus Vinee" to Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Almaricus frater Dni mei Willelmi sive clericus sive fratris mei...heres futurus” by undated charter[138]. The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “dominus Willelmus de Calvo Monte” holding “apud Calvum Montem unum feodum quod dividitur in duo feoda...unum feodum apud Sanctum Clarum quod Robertus frater suus tenet...”[139]. "Amauricus filius Radulfi de Lyebecort..." donated "boscum meum apud Liebecort" to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated 1208, witnessed by “Dno Willelmo de Calvomonte, Dno Roberto fratre eius, Roberto de Crisperiis vicecomite Caleti...”[140]. "Guillaume de Chaumont chevalier fils de Robert le Roux du consentement de Robert son frère" ratified the donation, made by “Louis chevalier de Montgeuvol son oncle” to Saint-Germer on becoming a monk there with the consent of "Robert son frère...Guillaume, Thibaut et Raoul ses fils", by charter dated 6 Dec 1208[141]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated “meam couturam de Pisseiz sub villa...Mongeuvolt” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of "Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi et Osmundi et aliorum omnium filiorum suorum", by charter dated 1213[142]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia...in nemore Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, for the soul of "Hosmundi filii mei", with the consent of “Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti et Guidonis et aliorum puerorum meorum”, by charter dated Nov 1220[143]. m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-[1224/Apr 1227]). "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated “meam couturam de Pisseiz sub villa...Mongeuvolt” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of "Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi et Osmundi et aliorum omnium filiorum suorum", by charter dated 1213[144]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia...in nemore Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, for the soul of "Hosmundi filii mei", with the consent of “Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti et Guidonis et aliorum puerorum meorum”, by charter dated Nov 1220[145]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia mea de bosco Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Mathildis matris mee et Johanne uxoris mee et Guidonis fratris mei et Mathei primogeniti mei et aliorum filiorum meorum”, by undated charter[146]. Guillaume [II] & his wife had three children:

i) GUILLAUME [III] de Chaumont (-[1227/35]). "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated “meam couturam de Pisseiz sub villa...Mongeuvolt” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of "Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi et Osmundi et aliorum omnium filiorum suorum", by charter dated 1213[147].

- see below.

ii) OSMOND de Chaumont (-[Mar/Nov] 1220). "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated “meam couturam de Pisseiz sub villa...Mongeuvolt” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of "Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi et Osmundi et aliorum omnium filiorum suorum", by charter dated 1213[148]. "Osmundus de Calidomonte" confirmed the donation of “dotlaicium suum quod super feodo de Valderico” to Beaulieu made by "Isabel uxor mea" by charter dated Mar 1220[149]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia...in nemore Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, for the soul of "Hosmundi filii mei", with the consent of “Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti et Guidonis et aliorum puerorum meorum”, by charter dated Nov 1220[150]. m (before Mar 1220) ISABELLE, daughter of ---. "Osmundus de Calidomonte" confirmed the donation of “dotlaicium suum quod super feodo de Valderico” to Beaulieu made by "Isabel uxor mea" by charter dated Mar 1220[151].

iii) GUY de Chaumont . "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia...in nemore Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, for the soul of "Hosmundi filii mei", with the consent of “Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti et Guidonis et aliorum puerorum meorum”, by charter dated Nov 1220[152].

b) AMAURY de Chaumont . "Willelmus de Caumont filius Roberti Ruffi" donated wood "in bosco meo...[et] Campus Vinee" to Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Almaricus frater Dni mei Willelmi sive clericus sive fratris mei...heres futurus” by undated charter[153].

c) ROBERT de Chaumont (-after 1211). The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “dominus Willelmus de Calvo Monte” holding “apud Calvum Montem unum feodum quod dividitur in duo feoda...unum feodum apud Sanctum Clarum quod Robertus frater suus tenet...”[154]. Seigneur de Saint-Clair. "Amauricus filius Radulfi de Lyebecort..." donated "boscum meum apud Liebecort" to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated 1208, witnessed by “Dno Willelmo de Calvomonte, Dno Roberto fratre eius, Roberto de Crisperiis vicecomite Caleti...”[155]. "Guillaume de Chaumont chevalier fils de Robert le Roux du consentement de Robert son frère" ratified the donation, made by “Louis chevalier de Montgeuvol son oncle” to Saint-Germer on becoming a monk there with the consent of "Robert son frère...Guillaume, Thibaut et Raoul ses fils", by charter dated 6 Dec 1208[156]. "Robertus de Calvomonte" renounced rights to "in terra...Vineola..." in favour of Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Aelidis uxoris mee et Johannis primogeniti mei”, by charter dated 1211[157]. m ALIX, daughter of --- (-after 1211). "Robertus de Calvomonte" renounced rights to "in terra...Vineola..." in favour of Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Aelidis uxoris mee et Johannis primogeniti mei”, by charter dated 1211[158]. Robert & his wife had one child:

i) JEAN . "Robertus de Calvomonte" renounced rights to "in terra...Vineola..." in favour of Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Aelidis uxoris mee et Johannis primogeniti mei”, by charter dated 1211[159].

GUILLAUME [III] de Chaumont, son of GUILLAUME [II] de Chaumont & his wife Mathilde --- (-[1227/35]). "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated “meam couturam de Pisseiz sub villa...Mongeuvolt” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of "Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi et Osmundi et aliorum omnium filiorum suorum", by charter dated 1213[160]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia...in nemore Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, for the soul of "Hosmundi filii mei", with the consent of “Mathildis uxoris mee et Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti et Guidonis et aliorum puerorum meorum”, by charter dated Nov 1220[161]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia mea de bosco Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Mathildis matris mee et Johanne uxoris mee et Guidonis fratris mei et Mathei primogeniti mei et aliorum filiorum meorum”, by undated charter[162]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Johanne uxoris mee et Mathei primogeniti filii mei”, by charter dated Apr 1227[163].

m JEANNE, daughter of ---. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia mea de bosco Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Mathildis matris mee et Johanne uxoris mee et Guidonis fratris mei et Mathei primogeniti mei et aliorum filiorum meorum”, by undated charter[164]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Johanne uxoris mee et Mathei primogeniti filii mei”, by charter dated Apr 1227[165].

Guillaume [III] & his wife had two children:

1. MATHIEU de Chaumont (-[1272/Nov 1276]). "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated harvest from “grangia mea de bosco Montis Jovis” to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Mathildis matris mee et Johanne uxoris mee et Guidonis fratris mei et Mathei primogeniti mei et aliorum filiorum meorum”, by undated charter[166]. "Guillelmus de Calvomonte miles" donated property to Gomerfontaine, with the consent of “Johanne uxoris mee et Mathei primogeniti filii mei”, by charter dated Apr 1227[167]. A charter dated May 1235, under which "Guido de Ruppe, Ansellus de Insula, Matheus de Tria, Johannes de Calvomonte, Gilo de Montchevrel et Johannes de Barris" confirmed privileges in Vexin, records the commitment of “Matheus de Calvomonte” who could not assist in person[168]. "Matheus de Calvomonte" donated property to Guitry, with the consent of "Petronille uxoris mee et Symonis fratris mei et aliorum fratrum meorum", by charter dated Oct 1236[169]. "Matheus de Calvomonte" donated "in terris...apud Kytri, apud Fores et apud Lyebecort" to Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti”, by charter dated 1270[170]. A document dated 1272 records that "Mahi de Chaumont miles senex" appointed "Johannem Beverel militum" to represent him[171]. m (before Oct 1236) PETRONILLE, daughter of ---. "Matheus de Calvomonte" donated property to Guitry, with the consent of "Petronille uxoris mee et Symonis fratris mei et aliorum fratrum meorum", by charter dated Oct 1236[172]. Mathieu & his wife had children:

a) GUILLAUME [IV] de Chaumont (-after Nov 1276). "Matheus de Calvomonte" donated "in terris...apud Kytri, apud Fores et apud Lyebecort" to Saint-Wandrille, with the consent of “Guillelmi filii mei primogeniti”, by charter dated 1270[173]. A charter dated Nov 1276 records the settlement of a dispute between "Willelmum de Calvomonte" and Saint-Wandrille[174].

b) RENAUD de Chaumont . Seigneur de Chaumont et de Guitry.

- SEIGNEURS de GUITRY[175].

2. SIMON de Chaumont . "Matheus de Calvomonte" donated property to Guitry, with the consent of "Petronille uxoris mee et Symonis fratris mei et aliorum fratrum meorum", by charter dated Oct 1236[176].

Chapter 3. COMTES de VERMANDOIS

A. COMTES de VERMANDOIS 896-1080 (CAROLINGIAN)

The county of Vermandois was formed by Héribert, a descendant of the early Carolingian kings of Italy whose direct ancestors had established themselves as counts in the area north of Paris. Héribert acquired Vermandois and Saint-Quentin in 896, followed by Soissons in 898[177]. His son count Héribert [II] acquired control over the archbishopric of Reims by engineering the appointment of his infant son as archbishop in 925. He also acquired Amiens, the Vexin and Artois, although these territories were disputed by Arnoul I Count of Flanders. The rivalry between the counts of Vermandois and the counts of Flanders was triggered in 896 by the murder of the brother of Baudouin II Count of Flanders by the forces of count Héribert [I] and persisted throughout the first half of the 10th century. The two power-bases appear to have been fairly evenly balanced, the result being that neither was able to dominate the whole of northern France. Another factor which must have rendered domination by either side more difficult was that the territory of the bishopric of Cambrai, directly north of Vermandois and south of Flanders, had been allocated to Lotharingia under the 843 treaty of Verdun, while the rest of northern France fell within the kingdom of the West Franks. Cambrai therefore represented a political barrier to either side extending control into the eastern part of the other's territory. Both the Flanders and Vermandois families lost political power during the mid-10th century. The territory of the Vermandois family was partitioned after the death of count Héribert [II] in 943 to provide appanages for his three sons, none of whom appears to have inherited their father's energy, and in the following century most of it passed by inheritance into the domaine royale of the Capetian kings.

HERIBERT [I], son of PEPIN [Carolingian] Seigneur de Péronne et de St Quentin, Comte near Paris & his wife --- ([848/850]-murdered [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Héribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[178]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[179]. He was at the court of Emperor Charles II “le Chauve” in 877. Comte de Soissons 886/898. Abbé de St Crépin. Comte de Meaux et de Madrie 888/889[180]. He became Comte de Vermandois in 896. The Annales Vedastini record that "Rodulfus comes" disrupted the peace in 896 and took the property of "Heribertus et Erkingerus", that "Odo rex" besieged "castrum sancti Quintini et Peronam" and expelled Raoul's supporters, and that Héribert killed Raoul[181]. Comte Héribert opposed Eudes King of France, but was reconciled with the king in 897, an event which may have been confirmed by the marriage of Héribert's daughter to the king's nephew Robert[182]. Baudouin II Count of Flanders attacked Vermandois, was driven out by 900 but reconquered it and killed Héribert [I] Comte de Vermandois in revenge for his brother's death[183].

m [LIETGARDIS], daughter of --- (-27 May ----). The name of the wife of Comte Héribert is not known. However, a "Comtesse Liedgardis", different from the daughter of Comte Héribert [II], is named who could have been his wife[184]. If this is correct, the necrology of Reims which records the death "VI Kal Jun" of "Letgardis comitissa"[185], may refer to the same person[186]. According to the Histoire de Guise, Albert Comte de Vermandois constructed the abbey of Saint-Michel at Rochefort in 945 "d'accord avec la comtesse Hérésinde sa femme", while in 947 Hérésinde founded the nearby Benedictine convent of Bucilly[187]. The source assumes that this refers to Albert Comte de Vermandois, but his supposed marriage to Hérésinde is not mentioned by Settipani[188]. According to the introduction to the Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Bucilly, Bucilly was founded by "Gerberge, femme d'Albert I Comte de Vermandois" although it notes that "certains auteurs ont voulu faire remonter [sa fondation] à la libéralité de Hersinde femme d'Herbert Comte de Vermandois morte en 901"[189]. No other reference has been found to Hérésinde being the wife of Comte Héribert [I].

Comte Héribert [I] & his wife had four children:

1. HERIBERT [II] ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin). None of the sources so far consulted states explicitly that Heribert [II] and his sister Beatrix were the children of Heribert [I] but this looks probable. He succeeded his father in [900/907] as Comte de Meaux, de Soissons et de Vermandois.

- see below.

2. BEATRIX de Vermandois ([880/83]-after 26 Mar 931). None of the sources so far consulted state explicitly that Heribert [II] and his sister Beatrix were the children of Heribert [I] but this looks probable. Her birth date range is estimated from her eldest daughter giving birth to her own first child in [915]. The Historia Francorum Senonensis records that "sororem Herberti" was the wife of "Robertus princeps" who rebelled against Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks[190]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Rodbertus dux” married “sororem Herberti” by whom he had “Hugonem Magnum”[191]. The marriage may have been arranged to confirm her father's reconciliation with Eudes King of France, who was her husband's uncle[192]. Werner suggests [897] as the date of the marriage, on the assumption that it followed the political reconciliation between Béatrix's father and Robert's uncle[193]. As discussed in relation to Robert's first marriage in the document FRANCE CAPETIAN KINGS, there is a possibility that Robert's first wife was still alive in 907, which would of course mean that Béatrix's marriage took place after that date. m ([897]) as his second wife, ROBERT Marquis en Neustrie, son of ROBERT “le Fort” Marquis en Neustrie & his [second] wife --- ([860]-killed in battle near Soissons 15 Jun 923). Comte de Paris 898. He was elected 22 Jun 922 as ROBERT I King of France.

3. [daughter [ADELA] . Jackman suggests[194] that the wife of Graf Gebhard [Konradiner] was the daughter of Héribert [I] Comte de Vermandois, although this appears supported only by onomastic indications. The name of Graf Gebhard's wife is not given explicitly in the sources. However, an "Adela" is named in a name-list in the Reichenau memorial book dated [926/32] which appears to include members of the Konradiner family, Jackman suggesting that she is well placed in the list to be Graf Gebhard's wife[195], although this is not the only possible interpretation of the text. m GEBHARD Graf im Ufgau, son of EBERHARD Graf in der Ortenau [Konradiner] & his wife Wiltrud --- (-after 15 Jan 947).]

4. [daughter [CUNIGUNDIS] ([890/900]-after 943). The Vermandois origin of Graf Udo's wife is suggested by the fact that Flodoard refers to the wife of "Uddone [frater Hermanno]" as amita of "Hugo [de Vermandois Archbishop of Reims]"[196]. The name of Graf Udo's wife is not given explicitly in the sources. However, a "Cunegundis" is named in a name-list in the Reichenau memorial book dated [926/32] which appears to include members of the Konradiner family, Jackman suggesting that she is well placed in the list to be Graf Gebhard's wife[197], although this is not the only possible interpretation of the text. Her birth date range is estimated from her estimated marriage date. m ([915]) UDO Graf in der Wetterau, son of GEBHARD Graf in der Wetterau [Konradiner] & his wife Hidda --- (-12 Dec 949).]

HERIBERT [II], son of HERIBERT [I] Comte de Vermandois & his wife [Lietgardis] --- ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin). None of the sources so far consulted state explicitly that Héribert [II] and his sister Beatrix were the children of Héribert [I] but this looks probable. He succeeded his father in [900/907] as Comte de Meaux, de Soissons et de Vermandois. Lay Abbot of St Crépin and St Médard at Soissons. Comte Héribert took part in the rebellion against Charles III “le Simple” King of France in 922 and tricked the ex-king into capture after he fled following his defeat near Soissons in 923. Flodoard records in 923 that "Heribertus comes" sent “Bernardum consobrinum suum” with a delegation “ad Karolum” who was “in castello suo super Somnam apud Sanctum Quintinum”, and who was detained “in...munitionem suam...Castellum Theoderici super Maternam fluvium”[198]. Héribert consolidated his power by arranging for his young son to be made Archbishop of Reims. Comte Héribert received Péronne from Raoul King of France in 924. Together with forces of Arnoul I Count of Flanders, Héribert captured the Viking stronghold of Eu[199]. Following this he apparently forged an alliance with Comte Rollo in [927][200], leaving his son Eudes with Rollo as a hostage. Comte Héribert unsuccessfully attempted to capture Laon in 927[201]. [Comte de Vienne]: Flodoard records that Ugo King of Italy gave "provintiam Viennensem" to Héribert Comte de Varmandois in 928, and that "Odonis filii sui [=Heriberto]" was appointed vicecomes[202]. No primary source has yet been identified which describes Héribert as “Comte de Vienne” or confirms whether he adopted the comital title. Flodoard provides an insight into the continuing rivalries regarding Vienne when he records in 933 that it was granted to "Rodulfo regi" [Rudolf II King of Upper Burgundy, see the document BURGUNDY KINGS][203]. With help from Hugues "le Grand" [Capet], King Raoul subdued Vermandois and Comte Héribert made his submission to the king[204]. In 939. Héribert joined the alliance against Louis IV King of France led by Otto I "der Große" King of Germany, who raided Frankish territory and forced King Louis to renounce his claim to the throne of Lotharingia. Together with Hugues "le Grand" [Capet], Héribert besieged Reims, forcing the restoration of his son as archbishop, and also besieged King Louis at Laon. Flodoard records the death of "Heribertus comes" in 943 and his burial at Saint-Quentin[205]. The necrology of Reims Cathedral records the death "VII Kal Mar" of "Heribertus comes"[206]. On his death in 943, his territories were divided between his sons by their maternal uncle Hugues "le Grand".

m (before 21 May 907) [ADELA], daughter of ROBERT Marquis en Neustrie, Comte de Paris [later ROBERT I King of France] & his first wife [Adela] --- (before 898-). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti gener…Roberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[207]. Her origin is confirmed by Flodoard naming "Hugo dux cum nepotibus suis, Heriberti filiis" in 943[208]. Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915]. Her name is deduced as follows. The 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[209]. Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Béatrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife. This reasoning appears based firstly on Hugues already being married in [914], and secondly on the probability of his having reached the age of majority when he was recognised as duke in 922. The 907 document is explained as referring to Robert and his elder daughter. The issue, however, is not beyond doubt, especially if the document in question was misdated. Her marriage date assumes that this identification is correct.

Comte Héribert II & his wife had [eight] children:

1. ODO [Eudes] ([915]-after 19 Jun 946). Vicomte de Vienne: Flodoard records that "Odonis filii sui [=Heriberto]" was appointed vicecomes when Ugo King of Italy gave his father "provintiam Viennensem" in 928[210]. His father left him in [927] as a hostage with Rollo Comte [de Normandie]. Unlike his father, he swore allegiance to Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of the Franks in 938 and received the guardianship of the royal residence at Laon. He occupied the town and county of Amiens, but was expelled in 944[211].

2. ADELA de Vermandois ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Ghent, St Pieter). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[212]. Flodoard refers to the wife of "Arnoul" as sister of "Hugo [de Vermandois Archbishop of Reims]"[213]. Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[214]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea…Adala atque…filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[215]. "Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis…Odacri advocati"[216]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[217]. m (934) as his second wife, ARNOUL I "le Grand" Count of Flanders, son of BAUDOUIN II "le Chauve" Count of Flanders & his wife Ælfthryth of Wessex ([885/890]-murdered 27 Mar 964, bur Ghent, St Pieter).

3. HERIBERT [III] "le Vieux" ([910/26]-[983/early 985], bur Lagny). Flodoard names "Heriberti Adalberti fratris" when recording his marriage, and in a later passage "nepotes Hugonis, Heribertus et Rotbertus"[218]. His date of birth has been estimated at [910/15] by Werner[219], whereas Settipani supports a later estimate of [925/26][220]. The former appears more consistent with Héribert's participation in his father's war from 938. If the latter is correct, comte Héribert would have been more than 20 years younger than his wife, which seems unlikely. There appears to be no basis for deciding between one or the other. He is documented with his father between 938 and 942 in the latter's war against King Louis IV, submitting to the king with his father in 942. Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, Héribert became Comte d'Omois and received the fortress of Château-Thierry as well as the abbey of Saint-Médard, Soissons. King Lothaire appointed him comte du palais (comte palatin). He succeeded his brother Robert in 967 as Comte de Meaux et de Troyes. His proposed death date range in [983/early 985] is estimated on the following basis. A letter of Gerbert dated 983 records that "Heriberti Trecassini et Oddonis comitis filii Tedbaldi" were enemies of "Adelbero Remonis archiepiscopus"[221]. However, a letter dated to Apr 985 names "Ottonis et Heriberti", while a letter dated to mid-985 records that "Ottonem, Heribertum" made peace with the archbishop[222]. Another letter of Gerbert dated to [late 986/early 987] records that "O et Heribertus comites" were part of the council of Emma Queen of France[223]. It is assumed that "Oddonis/Ottonem/O" all refer to the same person. However, it is suggested that only the first letter applies to Héribert [III], the change to Héribert [V] (nephew and successor of Héribert [III], son of the latter's brother Robert) being indicated in the subsequent letters by "Heribertum" being named after "Ottonem" instead of before, which suggests that he was the junior of the two from Apr 985. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the burial of "comes Trecensis Heribertus II cognomento Vetulus" in "abbatiam Latiniaci"[224]. m (951) as her second husband, EADGIFU, widow of CHARLES III "le Simple" King of the Franks, daughter of EDWARD I King of Wessex & his second wife Ælfleda --- ([902/05][225]-26 Sep after 951, bur Abbaye de Saint-Médard de Soissons). Flodoard records in 951 that “Ottogeba regina mater Ludowici regis” married “Heriberti...Adalberti fratris” and that “rex Ludowicus iratus” confiscated “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ...Lauduni” from her and donated it to “Gerbergæ uxori suæ”[226].

4. HUGUES (920-Meaux 962). Flodoard names "Hugone diacono Heriberti filio", when recording his installation as archbishop of Reims in 940[227]. His father engineered the grant by Raoul King of France of the temporal administration of the archbishopric of Reims to Hugues in 925. The Annales Remenses record in 926 that, after the death of "Seulfo archipresule", "Hugo filius Heriberti comitis, adhuc quinquennis" was elected[228]. The appointment was confirmed by Pope John X, but the grant was withdrawn by the king in 932 after he besieged the city[229]. Hugues entered holy orders in 940: Flodoard records in 940 that “Widone Suessonico præsule” ordained “Hugo filius Heriberti Remis...presbiter”[230]. His father, who had captured Reims in [Jun/Jul] 940, forced Hugues's restoration as archbishop of Reims. Besieged at Laon, King Louis IV was obliged to confirm Hugues's appointment as archbishop and also appointed Hugues as his Arch-Chancellor. Hugues was expelled from Reims in 946 when the town was retaken by King Louis. He was finally deprived of his archbishopric by the papal legate in 948: Flodoard records in 948 that “litteras...ex nomine Agapiti papæ” sent “ad episcopos per clericum suum” ordered “Hugoni” to withdraw from “Remense...episcopium”[231]. Flodoard records in 949 that “Agapitus papa” held a synod “apud sanctum Petrum” which confirmed “dampnationem Hugonis episcopi apud Ingulenheim” and excommunicated him[232]. Flodoard records in 962 that “Hugoni” requested reinstatement as archbishop of Reims after the death of Archbishop Artaud but that this was refused[233]. He died on returning from a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela[234].

5. LUITGARDIS (before 925-14 Nov after 985, bur Chartres, Abbaye de Saint-Père). Rodulfus Glauber refers to the wife of Comte Guillaume as "sororem [Heribertum Trecorum comitem]", specifying that she was childless by her first husband, when recording her second marriage to "Tetbaldus"[235]. Guillaume of Jumièges records the marriage of “Normannorum Dux” and "Herbertus...filiam suam", encouraged by “Hugone Magno”, after the marriage of Guillaume’s sister Gerloc [which would date the marriage to [935] if that report is accurate][236]. The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum refers to the wife of "Tetbaudi comitis" as "sorore Herberti Trecorum comitis"[237]. "Theobaldi comitis…Ledgardis comitisse" subscribed the charter dated 950 under which Ragnfred Bishop of Chartres donated property to Chartres Saint-Père[238]. "Ledgardis" donated property to "Sancti Petri Carnotensis ecclesiam", for the souls of "senioris mei…comitis Tedbaldi…patris mei Heirberti, Trecassini comitis", with the consent of "archipresule…Hugone et…comite Odone, filiis meis", by charter dated 5 Feb 978, signed by "…Emma comitissa Pictavæ urbis…"[239]. “Ledgardis comitissa necnon Hugo episcopus et filius meus et item filius meus Odo comes” donated property to Saint-Martin de Tours, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis quondam senioris mei…Richildis quondam sanctimonialis, eiusque filii Richardi episcopi” (referring to “dicti comitis et fratris sui Theobaldi”, in relation to Bishop Richard), by charter dated to [980][240]. "Hugonis ducis, Odonis comitis, Hugonis sanctæ Bituricensis archipræsulis, Letgardis comitissæ, Bertæ comitissæ, Gauzfridi vicecomitis…" subscribed the charter dated 985 under which "Robertus" donated property to "Sancti Petri Carnotensis", on the advice of "Odonem, simul cum sua matre Ledgarde, pariterque dominam meam Bertam, ipsius æque coniugem"[241]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "XVIII Kal Dec" of "Letgardis comitissa"[242]. m firstly ([935]) as his second wife, GUILLAUME I “Longuespée” Comte [de Normandie], son of ROBERT I [Rollo] Comte [de Normandie] & his [second] wife Poppa de Bayeux (-murdered Péquigny-sur-Somme 17 Dec 942, bur Rouen, cathédrale de Notre-Dame). m secondly ([942/45]) [as his second wife,] THIBAUT [II] "le Tricheur" Comte de Blois, son of THIBAUT [I] "l'Ancien" Comte, Vicomte de Tours & his [first wife ---] ([910?]-16 Jan [975/77]).

6. ROBERT (-after 19 Jun 966). "Rodberti filium Heriberti comitis" witnessed a charter of "Gauzfredus comes" dated Jul 940[243]. Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, Robert became Comte de Meaux. He became Comte de Troyes in 956 on the death of his father-in-law, by right of his wife.

- COMTES de TROYES.

7. ADALBERT [Albert] (-8 Sep 987). Flodoard names "Adalbertus filius Heriberti"[244]. Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, Albert became Comte de Vermandois.

- see below.

8. [GUY (-after [986]). Dormay, in his Histoire de la ville de Soissons, records that "M. Renaut…dit avoir vu un manuscrit de Sainte-Croix d’Offemont, lequel ne se trouve plus" in which "Guy Comte de Soissons est appellé fils de Heribert Comte de Vermandois"[245]. Comte de Soissons. "…Wido comes…" confirmed the charter dated Jun 974 under which Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Thierry near Reims[246]. Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Eloy de Noyon, established by "piæ memoriæ nepos noster Lyudulfus Noviomanorum episcopus…assentientibus fratribus suis nepotibus nostris Alberto Viromandensi comite et Guidone", by charter dated to [980/986], signed by "Alberti Viromandensis comitis, Guidonis fratris eius…"[247]. "Adalbertus comes, Heriberti comitis, Vidonis comitis…" subscribed the charter dated to [980] under which "Adalbertus comes…in meo Virodumensi comitatu" founded the abbey of Mont-Saint-Quentin near Péronne[248]. He visited Rome in the mid-980s: Gerbert requested "Stephano Romanæ æcclesiæ diacono" to return books to him by "Guidonem Suessonicum comitem", dated to late 984[249].]

- COMTES de SOISSONS.

ADALBERT [Albert] [I], son of HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adela [Capet] (-8 Sep 987). Flodoard names "Adalbertus filius Heriberti"[250]. Under the division of territories organised after his father's death in 943, he became Comte de Vermandois. Comte Albert re-established the abbey of Homblières and built Mont-Saint-Quentin[251]. When his brother Hugues was deposed as archbishop of Reims in 948, Comte Albert gave up the family's struggle with Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of France and swore allegiance to the king. He opposed the election of Hugues Capet as king of France, but eventually submitted[252]. A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes, Walerannus laicus, Gisla…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[253].

[m firstly HERESINDE, daughter of ---. According to the Histoire de Guise, Comte Albert constructed the abbey of Saint-Michel at Rochefort in 945 "d'accord avec la comtesse Hérésinde sa femme", while in 947 Hérésinde founded the nearby Benedictine convent of Bucilly[254]. The source assumes that this refers to Albert Comte de Vermandois, but his supposed first marriage is not mentioned by Settipani[255]. According to the introduction to the Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Bucilly, Bucilly was founded by "Gerberge, femme d'Albert I Comte de Vermandois" although it notes that "certains auteurs ont voulu faire remonter [sa foundation] à la libéralité de Hersinde femme d'Herbert Comte de Vermandois morte en 901"[256]. The Cartulaire reproduces a French translation of a declaration by Barthélemy Bishop of Laon dated 1120 entitled "Privilegium de domino Elberto, Viromandensi comite" according to which the bishop declares that he has read the original charter under which "Elbert comte de Vermandois…et sa femme Gertrude [error for Gerberge]" founded Bucilly[257]. Further research in the original charter documentation is needed to clarify this confusion, not the least of which is that, even if Hérésinde was not the wife of Comte Albert, no other reference has been found to her being the wife of Comte Héribert [I] (see above).]

m [secondly] ([949/54]) GERBERGA, daughter of GISELBERT Duke of Lotharingia & his wife Gerberga of Germany ([935]-after 7 Sep 978). Settipani names her as the wife of Comte Albert, and gives her parentage, but does not cite the primary source on which this is based. A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes, Walerannus laicus, Gisla…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[258]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage more precisely has not been identified.

Comte Albert & his [second] wife had [four] children:

1. HERIBERT [IV] ([954]-29 Aug [993]). A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[259]. Héribert [IV] succeeded his father in 987 as Comte de Vermandois. m (before [982/86]) [as her first husband,] ERMENGARDIS, daughter of ---. "Comes Heribertus" names "materque mea Pavia…pater meus Otto, eius genitrix, avia mea Ermengardis" donated property to Notre-Dame de Homblières by charter dated [13 Jan/13 Oct] 1045[260]. According to Ernest Petit[261], Ermengardis was the widow of Milon [IV] Comte de Tonnerre. The author highlights a charter of Ermengardis Ctss de Vermandois witnessed by Renaud Comte de Tonnerre. He suggests that Comte Renaud would only have done this if he were the son of Ermengardis, although other explanations must be possible. Settipani points out[262] that Ermengardis is named as the wife of Héribert [IV] in a document of her father-in-law Albert [I] Comte de Vermandois, relating to the abbey of Homblières, dated some time between 982 and the death of Comte Albert (in 987). If the two marriages apply to the same Ermengardis, Comte Héribert must have been her first husband and Comte Milon her second. However, it is not clear that this suggested co-identity is correct, a simpler explanation being that there were two different individuals named Ermengardis. Ernest Petit also suggests[263] that Ermengardis (wife of Comte Milon) was heiress of Bar-sur-Seine, in order to explain how her granddaughter by Comte Milon, Eustachie, transmitted this county to her husband Gauthier de Brienne. He identified the father of Ermengardis as "Renaud Comte de Bar-sur-Seine" based on two charters, which he dated to 992 and 997, which name "Rainardus comes" whom he identifies with Rainard, son of miles Raoul de Bar, who is mentioned in the Chronicle of St Bénigne[264]. There appears to be no other evidence of the existence of this person, and Bouchard[265] points out that the dating of the two charters in question is uncertain. She suggests that it is more likely that "Rainardus" is identified with Renaud Comte de Sens or with "Rainaldus" son of Ermengardis. This of course leaves open the question how Bar-sur-Seine was transmitted to the Tonnerre family. Comte Heribert [IV] & his wife had two children:

a) ALBERT [II] ([985/90]-[1 Feb 1015/1017]). The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium names "Alberto Vermandensi comiti, fratri Ottonis"[266]. He succeeded his father in [1000] as Comte de Vermandois. He abdicated before 15 Jul 1010[267].

b) EUDES [Otto] ([985/90]-25 May 1045). He succeeded in [1021] as Comte de Vermandois.

- see below.

2. OTTO ([950/55]-after 2 Nov [958/59]). "Ottonem, Alberti Vermandensium comitis filium" is named in the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium[268]. A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[269]. Otto is named with his parents in a charter of Comte Adalbert dated 2 Nov [958/59][270]. same person as…? OTTO (-[986/87] or after). There appears to be no direct proof that Otto, ancestor of the Comtes de Chiny, was the same person as Otto, son of Adalbert Comte de Vermandois. The Historia Monasterii Mosomense records that "Ottonem comitem" built "castellum…Warcus" (Warcq, Ardennes) in 971, and suggests his affiliation when, in a later passage, it clarifies that "superius dictus Ottho erat comes, Otthonum…Romanorum imperatorum…germanissima progenies"[271]. The editor of the MGH SS edition of the Historia identifies Otto with the son of Adalbert Comte de Vermandois and Gerberge, daughter of Emperor Otto I's sister[272]. A subsequent passage of the Historia dates the foundation of the monastery to 24 Jul 971[273], implying that the events recorded earlier in the text predated this foundation. If this is correct, 971 seems early for Otto de Vermandois to have constructed Warcq in light of his estimated birth date (which appears reasonably robust). Gerbert, in a letter dated to Oct 986, records that "dux Cono pro suo Ottone insidias molitur"[274]. In the same letter, he also records that "Laudunensis episcopus" left "Dordingum" (Dourdon?) on the advice of "Ottonis et Heriberti" in support of "ducem" (which appears to refer to Hugues Capet). Settipani suggests that "Otto" in this text refers to the holder of Warcq[275]. However, all other passages in Gerbert's letters which name "Ottonis et Heriberti" (in that order) appear to refer to Eudes I Comte de Blois and his first cousin Héribert [V] Comte de Troyes. It is unclear from the full text of this letter whether "Ottone" and "Ottonis" relate to the same person. "Dux Cono" has not been identified, although it may refer to Konrad I Duke of Swabia. If this is correct, it is possible that the first "Ottone" is a different person from the second "Ottonis" as there is no other passage which links the Blois count to the Swabian duke. Settipani states that Otto died "between 986 and 987", without specifying the basis for this speculation[276].

- COMTES de CHINY.

3. LIUDOLF ([957]-before 9 Nov 986). A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[277]. He was appointed Bishop of Noyon 978, consecrated 979.

4. [ELEONORE . According to the Histoire de Guise, "Gauthier de Saint-Aubert avait épousé vers 986 une sœur du comte de Vermandois…Eleonore", the author speculating on the possibility of a relationship between Gauthier de Saint-Aubert and the later Seigneurs de Guise[278]. No other reference has been found to this couple. m ([986]) GAUTHIER de Saint-Aubert, son of ---.]

EUDES, son of HERIBERT [IV] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Ermengardis --- ([985/90]-25 May 1045). He succeeded in [1021] as Comte de Vermandois. "Comes Heribertus" names "materque mea Pavia…pater meus Otto, eius genitrix, avia mea Ermengardis" donated property to Notre-Dame de Homblières by charter dated [13 Jan/13 Oct] 1045[279]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "VIII Kal Jun" of "Otto comes"[280].

m PAVIA, daughter of --- (-after 1045). "Comes Heribertus" names "materque mea Pavia…pater meus Otto, eius genitrix, avia mea Ermengardis" donated property to Notre-Dame de Homblières by charter dated [13 Jan/13 Oct] 1045[281].

Comte Eudes & his wife had two children:

1. HERIBERT [VI] ([1032]-[1080]). He succeeded his father in 1045 as Comte de Vermandois. “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus” by charter dated 1076, subscribed by “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...”[282]. He succeeded as Comte de Valois in 1077, by right of his wife. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[283]. m ([1059 or before]) ADELAIS de Valois, daughter of RAOUL [III] Comte de Valois, de Crépy et de Vitry & his first wife Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube (-after 1077). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam…Adala" children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[284]. Her marriage is confirmed by an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[285]. Ctss de Valois. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[286]. Comte Héribert [VI] & his wife had two children:

a) EUDES “l’Insensé” (-after 1085). The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Odonem et Adelam sororem" as the two children of "comes Herbertus", specifying that Eudes was "fatuus et indiscretus" but that his brother-in-law gave him "filiam cuiusdam militis Viromandensis" as a wife[287]. He was disinherited by his father. m HADWIG, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.

[- SEIGNEURS de SAINT-SIMON. The descent of the family of Saint-Simon from Eudes "l'Insensé" de Vermandois was fabricated in the 17th century to flatter Claude Rouvroy de Saint-Simon, favourite of Louis XIII King of France[288]. On the basis of this genealogy, the senior branch of the family of Rouvroy adopted the name "Saint-Simon de Vermandois".]

b) ADELAIS de Vermandois ([1065]-28 Sep [1120/24]). The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Odonem et Adelam sororem" as the two children of "comes Herbertus", specifying that the husband of Adela was "Hugoni le Magne" and referring to her second husband "comes de Claromonte" and specifying that her daughter by the latter married Charles Count of Flanders[289]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem comitissam Viromandensium, defuncto priore viro, scilicet Hugone Magno" as wife of "comes Rainaldus [de Claromonte]"[290]. She succeeded her father in [1080] as Ctss de Vermandois, de Valois et de Crépy. m firstly ([1080]) HUGUES de France, son of HENRI King of France & his second wife Anna Iaroslavna of Kiev (1057-Tarsus in Cilicia 18 Oct 1102, bur Tarsus church of St Paul). Comte de Vermandois et de Valois by right of his wife. Leader of the French contingent in the First Crusade Aug 1096 returning to France after the victory of Antioch 1098 to raise another army. He set out again Mar 1101 but died from wounds received fighting the Greeks at Tarsus in Cilicia. m secondly (1103) as his first wife, RENAUD [III] de Clermont, son of HUGUES [II] de Creil dit de Mouchy & his wife Marguerite de Roucy [Montdidier] (-[1152/53]). He took the title Comte after his marriage[291]. children of first marriage:

- Part B. COMTES de VERMANDOIS (CAPET).

c) EUDES (-after 1076). “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus” by charter dated 1076, subscribed by “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...”[292].

B. COMTES de VERMANDOIS 1080-1214 (CAPET)

HUGUES de France, son of HENRI I King of France & his second wife Anna Iaroslavna of Kiev (1057-Tarsus 18 Oct 1102, bur Tarsus, Church of St Paul). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names (in order) "Philippum, Hugonem atque Rotbertum" as the three sons of King Henri and his wife Anna[293]. William of Tyre records "dominus Hugo Magnus" as brother of Philippe I King of France[294]. Orderic Vitalis names "Philippum et Hugonem Magnum Crispeii comitem" as the children of "Henricus…Francorum rex" and his wife "Bertradam, Julii Claudii regis Russiæ filiam"[295]. He succeeded as Comte de Vermandois et de Valois, by right of his wife. He left France in Aug 1096 as head of the contingent of his brother Philippe I King of France which left on the First Crusade[296]. Orderic Vitalis records that in 1096 "Hugo Crispeii comes" placed "Radulfo et Henrico filiis suis" in charge of his land, married "Ysabel filiam suam" to "Rodberto de Mellento comiti", and left on pilgrimage taking "secum nobile agmen Francorum"[297]. The Alexeiad names "a certain Hugh, brother of the king of France" when recording that he "sent an absurd message to the emperor proposing that he should be given a magnificent reception" after arriving in Constantinople[298]. He was shipwrecked off Durazzo, but accompanied to Constantinople by the Byzantine admiral Manuel Butumites[299]. Albert of Aix records that "Hugonem Magnum fratrem regis Franciæ, Drogonem et Clareboldum" were held in chains in prison by the emperor at Constantinople but were released after the intervention of "Baldewinus Hainaucorum comes et Heinricus de Ascha" who were sent as envoys by Godefroi de Bouillon[300]. Albert of Aix records that "Hugo, Drogo, Willelmus Carpentarius et Clareboldus" joined the army of Godefroi de Bouillon after their release from captivity in Constantinople, dated to end 1096[301]. He took part in the siege of Antioch in 1098. He was sent on a mission to Emperor Alexios I, but was surprised in a Turkish ambush near Nikaia but escaped with his life[302]. He returned to France after the capture of Antioch in 1098 to raise another army which he led as part of the second wave of the First Crusade, leaving France in Mar 1101. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1102 of "Hugo Magnus apud Tarsum"[303]. He died from wounds received fighting the Turks near Tarsus in Asia Minor[304].

m (after 1067) as her first husband, ADELAIS Ctss de Vermandois, de Valois et de Crépy, daughter and heiress of HERIBERT [VI] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adelais de Valois ([1065]-28 Sep [1120/24]). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium" as wife of "Hugonem Magnum"[305]. Her husband left her as regent in Vermandois when he left on crusade. She married secondly (1103) as his first wife, Renaud de Clermont. "Adela…Viromandorum comitissa, filius…meus Radulphus" renounced their claim to certain serfs in favour of the abbey of Compiègne Saint-Corneille, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Radulphi, Henrici, Symonis", by charter dated 1114[306]. "Adela Viromandensis comitissa filiique mei…Radulphus comes atque Henricus", for the soul of "mariti mei Hugonis comitis…", confirmed the donation of "tria altaria…apud Mesvillare et Faverolas et Pronastrum" to Compiègne Saint-Corneille made by "Helinandus miles", for the souls of "sua suique filii Sagalonis…et sue uxoris", by charter dated 1114, signed by "…Ermentrudis uxoris Helinandi…"[307]. In 1117, Louis VI "le Gros" King of France restored to her the county of Amiens which had been usurped by Thomas de Marle[308].

Comte Hugues & his wife had [nine] children:

1. MATHILDE de Vermandois (-after [1130]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the proposed marriage of "Robertus comes Mellentinus" and the daughter of "Hugonis Crispeiensis comes" which was prohibited by "Yvo [episcopus]" on grounds of consanguinity, the mutual descent of the two parties from "Gauterus Albus de Albamarla" being set out in the chronicle although the name of the daughter is not given[309]. It is not known to which daughter this refers, but it may be Mathilde. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to (but does not name) the second of the daughters of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium" as wife of "Radulfo de Baugenci", parents of "Simonem eiusdem loci principem"[310]. "Domnus Radulfus de Balgentiaco" donated a wood to La Trinité de Vendôme, with a reserve for "uxor eius domna Mathildis", by charter dated 1105[311]. “Mahildis mater Simonis de Baugencio” donated “terram...apud Venum” to the priory of Saint-Barthélemy de Semoy, with the consent of “filiis meis Simone, Lanscelino atque Radulfo”, by undated charter[312]. She is named in the testament of "Simon Balgenciacensis dominus" dated to [1146/53] which names "Radulfi mei patris et Matildis mei matris"[313]. The fact that Mathilde was the eldest daughter is confirmed by the De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses which records "Agnes uxor domini Ingelranni de Cociaco" as daughter of "domina de Baugenciaco primogenita [comitis Hugonis li Maines]"[314]. m (1090) as his second wife, RAOUL Seigneur de Baugency, son of LANCELIN Seigneur de Baugency & his wife --- (-[1130]).

2. AGNES de Vermandois ([1085]-after 1127). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to (but does not name) the first of the daughters of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium" as wife of "Bonefacius marchio", parents of "Bonefacium archidiaconum Noviomensem et filios et filias, quarum una nupsit Guilelmo de Monte-pessulano"[315]. As noted above, her sister Mathilde is referred to in another source as "primogenita". "Bonifatius marchio…Agnes comitissa uxor ipsius marchionis…filii eius Mainfredus et Ugo" donated "domum sancti Laurentii" to Lérins by charter dated 1127[316]. m [as his second wife,] BONIFACIO di Saluzzo Marchese del Vasto, son of ODDONE Marchese di Liguria Occidentale & his wife Berta di Susa (-after 1127).

3. CONSTANCE de Vermandois (-2 Feb after [1126/28]). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to (but does not name) the third of the daughters of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium" as wife of "Ioifrido de Firmitate-Galceri" and parents of "uxorem Simonis de Oisiaco"[317]. Thibaut IV Comte de Blois confirmed the donation of property "apud Choisiacum" made to Saint-Martin-des-Champs by "Gaufridus vicecomes Firmitatis-Ansculfi et uxor eius Constancia" for the soul of "filii eorum Petri" after the death of the latter, with the consent of "Ada filia eorum", by charter dated to [1126/29][318]. A charter dated 1154 confirms variation donations, including the donation of "terræ…in territorio Marolii" to "monialibus de Colunnantiis" made by "Gauffridus vicecomes Firmitatis Ansculfi", with the consent of "Constantiæ uxoris suæ, filii sui Petri, filiæ Adæ"[319]. The necrology of Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs records the death "IV Non Feb" of "Constantie vicecomitissa de Firmitate que dedit elemosinam de Choisi"[320]. m ([1102]) GEOFFROY de la Ferté-Ancoul, son of --- (-13 Apr after 1132).

4. ISABELLE [Elisabeth] de Vermandois ([before 1088][321]-17 Feb 1131, bur Lewes). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to (but does not name) the fourth of the daughters of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium" as wife of "comiti de Meslent", and parents of "filios, quorum unus successit patri in comitatu, alter comitatum tenuit de Cirecestre"[322]. Orderic Vitalis records that in 1096 "Hugo Crispeii comes" placed "Radulfo et Henrico filiis suis" in charge of his land, married "Ysabel filiam suam" to "Rodberto de Mellento comiti", and left on pilgrimage taking "secum nobile agmen Francorum"[323]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”secundus Willelmus de Warenna comes Surreiæ...tertius Willelmus filius eius” was born to “Elizabeth filia Hugonis Magni comitis Viromandorum”, who had first married “Roberto comiti Mellenti” by whom she had “tres filios et totidem filias”[324]. "Guillelmus filius Guillelmi de Vuarenna" confirmed donations of property to Saint-Victor-en-Caux by "patre meo", for the soul of "uxoris mee Ysabel", by undated charter (a copy of which is attached to a late-12th century transcription of a charter under which Hugh de Mortimer confirmed donations to the monastery), witnessed by "Gislebertus de Grenosavilla, Ysabel comitissa, Radulfus filius comitis…"[325]. m firstly ([1096], divorced 1115) ROBERT de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Roger, son of ROGER de Vieilles Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Roger & his wife Adeline de Meulan ([1046]-5 or 6 Jun 1118, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). m secondly (1118) WILLIAM [II] de Warenne Earl of Surrey, son of WILLIAM [I] de Warenne Earl of Surrey & his first wife Gundred --- (-[11 May] 1138, bur Lewes Priory).

5. RAOUL [I] "le Vaillant" de Vermandois ([1094]-13 Oct 1152, bur St Arnould in Crépy). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names (in order) "Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem" as the sons of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium"[326]. He succeeded his father in 1102 as Comte de Vermandois.

- see below.

6. HENRI de Vermandois (-1130). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names (in order) "Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem" as the sons of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium"[327]. Seigneur de Chaumont-en-Vexin.

- SEIGNEURS de CHAUMONT-en-VEXIN.

7. SIMON de Vermandois (-Seleukia 10 Feb 1148, bur Cistercian Abbey of Notre-Dame de l'Assomption, Ourscamp). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names (in order) "Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem" as the sons of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium"[328]. "Adela…Viromandorum comitissa, filius…meus Radulphus" renounced their claim to certain serfs in favour of the abbey of Compiègne Saint-Corneille, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Radulphi, Henrici, Symonis", by charter dated 1114[329]. The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "Symonem adolescentem, filium Hugonis comitis cognomento Magni", when recording his election as Bishop of Noyon[330]. He was elected Bishop of Noyon in Jul 1123. Bishop of Tournai . The Continuatio Praemonstratensis of Sigebert's Chronica records the succession in 1121 of “Symon Ludovici regis Francorum patruelis” after the death of “Lamberto Noviomensi episcopo”[331]. "Simon...Tornacensis atque Noviomensis episcopus" donated “ecclesias...Lisnege, Snelgerkerke, Bovenkerke, Ermingehem” to Saint-Bertin by charter dated 1125[332]. He was excommunicated in 1142 by Pope Innocent II for having authorised the divorce of his brother Comte Raoul I from his first wife. He accompanied Louis VII King of France on the Second Crusade in 1147, and died on the return journey[333]. The Continuatio Praemonstratensis of Sigebert's Chronica records in 1148 the death of “Symon...Noviomensis episcopus apud Seleutiam”[334].

8. [GUILLAUME de Vermandois (-after 1096). Europäische Stammtafeln names “Guillaume died after 1096” as the youngest son of Hugues Comte de Vermandois[335]. The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.]

9. BEATRIX de Vermandois (-after 1144). The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses refers to (but does not name) the fourth daughter of "comite Hugone et Adela uxore" being the wife of "comes Garentie"[336], although it is possible that this refers to "William de Warenne", second husband of the couple's daughter Elisabeth. Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”Giraldo...filius eius Hugo” married “sorore Rodulfi de Parrona comitis Viromandorum”, by whom he had “unum filium...Hugonem”[337]. "Gornacensis dominus et…Hugo filius meus" donated property to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, for the soul of "Beatricis…uxoris meæ", by charter dated to [1144][338]. m HUGUES [IV] Seigneur de Gournay-en-Bray, son of GERARD Seigneur de Gournay & his wife Edith de Warenne (-1180).

RAOUL [I] "le Vaillant" de Vermandois, son of HUGUES [I] de France Comte de Vermandois [Capet] & his wife Adelais Ctss de Vermandois ([1094]-13 Oct 1152, bur Priory of Saint-Arnoul de Crépy). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names (in order) "Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem" as the sons of "Hugonem Magnum [et] Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium"[339]. Orderic Vitalis records that in 1096 "Hugo Crispeii comes" placed "Radulfo et Henrico filiis suis" in charge of his land, married "Ysabel filiam suam" to "Rodberto de Mellento comiti", and left on pilgrimage taking "secum nobile agmen Francorum"[340]. Robert of Torigny records that "Rodulfus filius eius" succeeded in 1102 on the death of "Hugo Magnus"[341]. He succeeded his father in 1102 as Comte de Vermandois, and his mother in 1117. "Adela…Viromandorum comitissa, filius…meus Radulphus" renounced their claim to certain serfs in favour of the abbey of Compiègne Saint-Corneille, with the consent of "filiorum meorum Radulphi, Henrici, Symonis", by charter dated 1114[342]. He lost an eye at the siege of the château of Livry in early 1129. Louis VI King of France appointed him seneschal of France in Nov 1131. He allied himself with Queen Adélaïde, the Queen mother, in 1138 against her son King Louis VII and Suger, but was reconciled with the king in 1139. "Comes Rodulfus de Perrona filius Hugonis magni fratris Philippi regis Francorum" provided for masses at "monasterio de Crespeio, quod antiquitus in eodem Crespeii castro constructum fuerat" by charter dated to [1140][343]. His repudiation of his first wife triggered war with Champagne and excommunication by the Pope, although the divorce was finally accepted by the church in 1148. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1152 of "Radulfus de Perrona comes Viromandorum", specifying that he appointed "Galeranni comitis Mellenti nepotis sui" as guardian of his infant children[344]. The necrology of the Priory of Saint-Martin-des-Champs records the death "III Id Oct" of "Rodulfus comes"[345].

m firstly ([1120], divorced 1142 on the grounds of consanguinity) ELEONORE de Blois, daughter of ETIENNE Comte de Blois & his wife Adela of England. Kerrebrouck names Eleonore, daughter of Comte Etienne, as the first wife of Raoul Comte de Vermandois[346] but the primary source on which this is based has not been identified. After her repudiation she found refuge with her brother Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne who declared war on her husband and appealed to Pope Innocent II who excommunicated him. Ctss Eléonore appeared in person before Pope Eugene III at Reims 21 Mar 1148, but the Pope confirmed the annulment of her marriage[347].

m secondly (1142) AELIS [Petronille] d'Aquitaine, daughter of GUILLAUME X Duke of Aquitaine [GUILLAUME VIII Comte de Poitou] & his first wife Eléonore de Châtellerault ([1125]-after 24 Oct 1151, bur St Arnould in Crépy). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines specifies that "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis" had two sisters one of whom married "Radulfus…comes Perone et Veromandie", although he does not name either of them[348]. The Historiæ Tornacenses record the wife of "Radulfem comitem" as "germanam Alienore regine Francorum" but also do not name her[349]. Robert of Torigny refers to the mother of the infant children of "Radulfus de Perrona comes Viromandorum" as "iuniore filia Willelmi ducis Aquitanorum" but he does not name her either[350]. The Chronique de Guillaume de Nangis names "Eléonore et Pétronille" as the two daughters of "Guillaume comte de Poitou et prince d'Aquitaine", recording in 1142 that Pétronille married "Raoul comte de Vermandois" after he repudiated his first wife[351]. "Helienordis...Francorum regina et Aquitanorum ducissa" confirmed the privileges of Notre-Dame de Saintes, at the request of "Agnetis abbatisse", with the consent of “Ludovici regis Francorum et ducis Aquitanorum collateralis nostri et Aelith sororis nostre”, by charter dated 1151[352].

m thirdly (1152) as her third husband, LAURETTA de Flandre, widow firstly of IWAN Graaf van Aalst and secondly of HENDRIK II Duke of Limburg, daughter of THIERRY Count of Flanders & his first wife Swanhilde --- ([1120]-Abbaye de Voorst, near Brussels 1170). The Flandria Generosa names "Laurentiam" as the only daughter of "comitissa etiam Suanildis", specifying that her marriage with "dux de Lemburg" was terminated on grounds of consanguinity, that she subsequently married "Iwanus de Alst", and after the latter's death "Rodulfo comiti Peronensi" and "comiti de Namur", although this switches her first and second husbands[353]. She married fourthly (before 1159, divorced 1163) as his first wife, Henri "l’Aveugle" Comte de Namur et de Luxembourg.

Comte Raoul [I] & his second wife had three children:

1. ELISABETH de Vermandois (1143-Arras 28 Mar 1183, bur Amiens Cathedral). The Annales Blandinienses record the marriage of "Philippus filius suus [=Theodericus comes]" with "filiam Rodulfi comitis Peronensis"[354]. The Flandria Generosa names "Ysabelem filiam comitis Viromandensis" wife of "Philippus"[355]. The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Elisabeth comitisse Flandrie et Lyenordis comitisse Viromandensis" as children of "Radulfus [filius comitis Hugonis li Maines]"[356]. She succeeded her brother in [1167] as Ctss de Vermandois et de Valois on his resignation of the county due to illness[357]. Ralph de Diceto records that "Philippus comes Flandrensis" killed "Walterum de Fontibus…II Id Aug", in 1175 from the context, "so it is said" for having committed adultery with "Isabella comitissa"[358]. The Flandria Generosa records the death in 1182 of "Elisabeth comitissa" specifying that she was buried "Attrebati in ecclesia beate Maria"[359]. m (Beauvais 1156) as his first wife, PHILIPPE de Flandres, son of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-at Acre 1 Jul 1191, bur Abbaye de Clairvaux, Jura). He succeeded in [1167] as Comte de Vermandois, by right of his wife. He succeeded his father in 1168 as PHILIPPE Count of Flanders. On the death of his wife, Count Philippe refused to relinquish the counties of Vermandois and Valois to her successor, which triggered war with France, settled by the transfer of the territories under the Treaty of Boves in Jul 1185, ratified at Amiens 20 Mar 1186, although Count Philippe was permitted to retain the title Comte de Vermandois for life[360].

2. RAOUL [II] de Vermandois (1145-17 Jun 1176, bur Abbaye de Longpont). The Flandria Generosa names "Radulfum fratrem eiusdem uxoris sue [=Ysabelem filiam comitis Viromandensis, uxor Philippi", specifying that he "elephantine infirmitatem incurrerat" and was expelled from Vermandois[361]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as Comte de Vermandois et de Valois. He caught leprosy in [1163] and was obliged to resign his county to his sister and her husband, although he continued to bear the title[362]. m ([1160], non-consummated, separated) as her first husband, MARGUERITE de Flandre, daughter of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou ([1145]-15 Nov 1194). She separated from her husband due to his illness[363]. She married secondly (Apr 1169) Baudouin de Hainaut, who succeeded in 1171 as Baudouin V Comte de Hainaut. and in 1191 as Baudouin VIII Count of Flanders. She succeeded her brother 1191 as MARGUERITE I Ctss of Flanders.

3. ELEONORE de Vermandois ([1148/49]-[19/21] Jun 1213, bur Abbaye de Longpont). The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Elisabeth comitisse Flandrie et Lyenordis comitisse Viromandensis" as children of "Radulfus [filius comitis Hugonis li Maines]"[364]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Aenoram Radulphi comitis Viromandie filiam" as wife of "Godefridum [filium Alidis comitissa Hanonensis…cum viro Balduino comite]", and in a later passage refers to her subsequent marriages to "Willelmo comiti Nivernensi…[et] Matheo comiti Boloniensi…[et] comiti Bellimontis in Francia Matheo"[365]. Robert of Torigny records the marriage in 1170 of "uxorem eius [=Willermo comite Nivernensi] sororem…comitissæ Flandrensis" and "Mathæus frater Philippi comitis Flandrensium comes Boloniæ"[366]. She claimed the succession to Vermandois on the death of her sister in 1183. "Elienor…comitissa Bellomontis et heres Viromandie" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp for the soul of "[comitis Philippi Flandrensis] uxoris sue sororis mee Elyzabeth…et Mathei comitis Bellomontis mariti mei, Henricique iunioris regis Anglie consanguinei mei et maritorum quis prius habui" by charter dated 1184[367]. Under the Treaty of Amiens, agreed with Philippe II King of France 20 Mar 1186, Eléonore retained Valois and part of Vermandois, calling herself from that time Ctss de Valois. "Elyenor…comitissa Bellomontis et…comitis Perone Radulfi filie" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1189[368]. Following the death of her brother-in-law Philippe Count of Flanders, a final settlement was agreed with the king who was to inherit all her territories if she died without issue and from 1192 she succeeded as Ctss de Vermandois[369]. In accordance with the agreement of 1192, the king of France inherited all her titles and properties on her death. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Alienordis comitissa Crespeiensis"[370]. m firstly (1162) GODEFROI de Hainaut Comte d’Ostrevant, son of BAUDOUIN IV “le Bâtisseur” Comte de Hainaut & his wife Alice de Namur (1147-Mons 7 Apr 1163, bur église Sainte-Waudru). m secondly (1164) GUILLAUME [V] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre & his wife Ida von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1145]-Acre 24 Oct 1168, bur Bethlehem). m thirdly (1171) as his second wife, MATHIEU de Flandre, Comte de Boulogne, son of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou ([1137]-killed in battle Driencourt 25 Dec 1173, bur Abbaye de Saint-Josse). m fourthly (1175) as his first wife, MATHIEU [III] Comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise & his first wife Mathilde de Châteaudun (-21 or 24 Nov 1208, bur Priory of Lay).

Chapter 4. NOBILITY in VERMANDOIS

A. CHÂTELAINS de BAPAUME, SEIGNEURS de BEAUMETZ

Beaumetz-lès-Cambrai is located about 15 kilometres east of Cambrai, in the present-day French département of Pas de Calais. The seigneurs de Beaumetz were châtelains de Bapaume which lies about 15 kilometres west of Beaumetz, arrondissement of Arras.

1. --- m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after Jan 1209). Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated Jan 1209 under which her son "Sigerus dominus de Bellomanso" sold property to Arras naming "mater mea Mathildis…et Balduinus filius meus major natu…et Rogerus frater meus"[371]. Two children:

a) SIGER (-after Jan 1209). "Sigerus dominus de Bellomanso" sold property to Arras by charter dated Jan 1209 which names "mater mea Mathildis…et Balduinus filius meus major natu…et Rogerus frater meus"[372]. m ---. The name of Siger’s wife is not known. Siger & his wife had one child:

i) BAUDOUIN . His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Jan 1209 under which his father "Sigerus dominus de Bellomanso" sold property to Arras naming "mater mea Mathildis…et Balduinus filius meus major natu…et Rogerus frater meus"[373].

b) ROGER (-after Jan 1209). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Jan 1209 under which his brother "Sigerus dominus de Bellomanso" sold property to Arras naming "mater mea Mathildis…et Balduinus filius meus major natu…et Rogerus frater meus"[374].

1. HUGUES de Beaumetz, son of --- . m (before 1175) MATHILDE de Wavrin, daughter of HELIE [III] de Wavrin Seneschal of Flanders & his wife Torsella d'Arras. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 1175 under which “Hellinus Flandrie dapifer” returned property to Saint-Vaast, with the consent of “Hugone de Bellomanso et Mathilde filia mea uxore illius”, for the soul of “domini Rogeri filii mei”[375].

1. HUGUES de Beaumetz (-after 1173). Châtelain de Bapaume. m as her second husband, BEATRIX de Guines , widow of WILLIAM Faramus de Tingry, daughter of ARNAUD Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Saint-Omer. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Margaretam…Beatricem…Adelidem …Eufemiam et Luthgaudam…Mathildem…Ghislam…Agnetem" as the eight daughters of "Gandavense Arnoldo" & his wife, specifying that Beatrix married firstly "Willelmo Faramus de Tingreio" and secondly "castellano de Bellomanso Hugoni"[376]. Hugues & his wife had children:

a) GILLES [I] de Beaumetz (-after 1214). Châtelain de Bapaume. "Egidius Castellanus Bapalmensis et dominus Bellimansi" confirmed a grant to "Segardus miles de Pamiers" by "Balduini de Bailleul" by charter dated Sep 1212[377]. m (after 1190) AGNES de Coucy, of RAOUL [I] de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-1214 or after). The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea"[378]. The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios et filias…quorum primogenitus ex sorore domini Iacobi de Bailluel in Haynonia filios genuit et filias, secundus…Radulphus uxorem duxit dominam de Baudour relictam domini de Walaincourt et sine liberis mortuus est, tertius…Thomas clericus…et postea Remensis archiepiscopus, quartus Robertus cognomen habuit de Britannia, eo quod nutritus fuerat cum comite Britanniæ Petro"[379]. Gilles [I] & his wife had [six or more] children:

i) GILLES [II] de Beaumetz (-[1261]). The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la fille monsigneur Raoul de Couchi...Agnes" married “monsigneur Gillion de Biaumes chastelain de Bapaumes, qui ot de li 4 fius et pluisours filles...li aisnes des fius...Gilles”[380]. Châtelain de Bapaume. “Egidius castellanus Bapalmarum et domnus Bellimansi et Yda domna d’Iron uxor mea” donated their share of “capellanie de Tenalliis” to Ribemont Saint-Nicolas by charter dated Apr 1230[381].

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ii) THOMAS de Beaumetz (-17 Feb 1263). The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios et filias…quorum...tertius…Thomas clericus…et postea Remensis archiepiscopus, quartus Robertus cognomen habuit de Britannia, eo quod nutritus fuerat cum comite Britanniæ Petro"[382]. Archbishop of Reims 1250. The necrology of Reims records the death “XV Kal Mar” of “dominus Thomas de Bellomeso Remensis archiepiscopus” and his donation[383].

iii) RAOUL de Beaumetz (-after Dec 1242). The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios...quorum...secundus…Radulphus uxorem duxit dominam de Baudour relictam domini de Walaincourt et sine liberis mortuus est..."[384]. “Raoul de Beaumez chevalier” recognised having sold part of the harvest of “Gilles son frère chevalier châtelain de Bapaume et seigneur de Beaumez…à Arras” to Robert Comte d’Artois, by charter dated Dec 1242[385]. m as her second husband, IDA Dame de Baudour, widow of BAUDOUIN “Buridan” Seigneur de Walincourt, daughter of --- (-after 1242). The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios...quorum...secundus…Radulphus uxorem duxit dominam de Baudour relictam domini de Walaincourt et sine liberis mortuus est..."[386]. Europäische Stammtafeln names her “Ide de Jauche Dame de Baudour et d’Aymeries” (no parents named)[387]. The primary source which confirms this family origin has not been identified. Gérard [II] de Jauche is recorded with a daughter named Ida in a charter dated Apr 1238 (see the document BRABANT LOUVAIN). The document does not name her husband, which seems unlikely if she has been the wife of Baudouin “Buridan”.

iv) ROBERT de Beaumetz . The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios et filias…quorum...quartus Robertus cognomen habuit de Britannia, eo quod nutritus fuerat cum comite Britanniæ Petro"[388].

v) daughters . Their existence is confirmed by the extract from the Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes which is quoted above.

vi) [AGNES de Beaumetz (-after 23 Jun 1225). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter dated to [1200/09] under which "Pieres de Douay" recorded the dower granted by "Wautiers mes nies castelains de Douay" to "Agnes fille le castelain de Bapaumes", witnessed by "Bauduin de Marquete men frère…et ses ii fius Gillon et Peron…mes neveus Henri de Mausni, Wautier de Aubrechicourt et Jehan men fil…"[389]. Agnes’s father is not named in this document, but from a chronological point of view it is possible that she was the daughter of Gilles [I] de Beaumetz Châtelain de Bapaume. "Agnes castellana Duacensis" donated property, which had belonged to "bone memorie Hugonis quondam Cameracensis electi" and inherited by "dno Waltero quondam castellano Duacensem marito meo" from "fratribus ipsius electi", to the abbey of Près where "Elysabeth filie mee…abbatissa loci illius", by charter dated 23 Jun 1225[390]. m ([1200/09]) GAUTHIER Châtelain de Douai, son of MICHEL Châtelain de Douai & his wife --- (-[21 Feb] [1208]).]

GILLES [II] de Beaumetz, son of GILLES [I] de Beaumetz Châtelain de Bapaume & his wife Agnes de Coucy (-[1261]). The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la fille monsigneur Raoul de Couchi...Agnes" married “monsigneur Gillion de Biaumes chastelain de Bapaumes, qui ot de li 4 fius et pluisours filles...li aisnes des fius...Gilles”, giving details of his descendants[391]. Châtelain de Bapaume. “Egidius castellanus Bapalmarum et domnus Bellimansi et Yda domna d’Iron uxor mea” donated their share of “capellanie de Tenalliis” to Ribemont Saint-Nicolas by charter dated Apr 1230[392]. “Gilles de Beaumez fils aîné de Gilles châtelain de Bapaume et seigneur de Beaumez” acknowledged having sold “sa terre de Coulemont” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and promised to procure the consent of “son héritier quand il sera en âge et par Joye sa femme”, by charter dated Jun 1239[393].

m firstly as her second husband, IDA de Irone, widow of JOSBERT Seigneur de Ribemont, daughter of --- (-after Apr 1230). The abbey of Ribemont Saint-Nicolas leased “mansionem...apud Tenellam” to “domino Elberto de Ribodimonte et domine Yde de Irone uxoris eius” by charter dated to the early 13th century[394]. “Ida de Irone quondam uxor domini Joberti de Ribodimonte” donated half “mansione...apud Tenellas” to Ribemont Saint-Nicolas by charter dated Dec 1221[395]. “Egidius castellanus Bapalmarum et domnus Bellimansi et Yda domna d’Iron uxor mea” donated their share of “capellanie de Tenalliis” to Ribemont Saint-Nicolas by charter dated Apr 1230[396].

m secondly (before Jun 1239) JOIE de Condé, daughter of NICOLAS Seigneur de Condé et de Bailleul & his wife Elisabeth de Morialmes. “Gilles de Beaumez fils aîné de Gilles châtelain de Bapaume et seigneur de Beaumez” acknowledged having sold “sa terre de Coulemont” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and promised to procure the consent of “son héritier quand il sera en âge et par Joye sa femme”, by charter dated Jun 1239[397].

Gilles [II] & his [first] wife had children:

1. GILLES [III] de Beaumetz (-[1272]). “Gilles de Beaumez fils aîné de Gilles châtelain de Bapaume et seigneur de Beaumez” acknowledged having sold “sa terre de Coulemont” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and promised to procure the consent of “son héritier quand il sera en âge et par Joye sa femme”, by charter dated Jun 1239[398]. Châtelain de Bapaume. m ([May 1262]) as her first husband, JEANNE de Beauvois Dame de Beauvois, daughter of MATHIEU Seigneur de Beauvois & his wife --- (-1300). “Robert de Beaumets second fils de Gillion châtelain de Bapaume seigneur de Beaumetz” agreed to indemnify Guy Count of Flanders for a payment agreed on the marriage of “Gillion de Beaumets son frère avec Dlle Jeannain fille du seigneur de Beauvoir” by charter dated May 1262[399]. She married secondly Waléran [I] de Luxembourg Seigneur de Ligny. "Henrys de Luxembourg sire de Liney" founded anniversaries for the souls of “son...pere monseigneur Walerans de Luxembourg et...madame Ieanne de Beauvoir sa mere” by charter dated 1300[400]. Gilles [III] & his wife had one child:

a) MARGUERITE de Beaumetz (-before 1303). m (before 1278) JEAN de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens, son of GERARD de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his third wife Mathilde de Crecques (-Perusa, Italy 29 Sep 1304).

Gilles [II] & his [second] wife had children:

2. ROBERT de Beaumetz (-after 28 Feb 1313). “Robert de Beaumets second fils de Gillion châtelain de Bapaume seigneur de Beaumetz” agreed to indemnify Guy Count of Flanders for a payment agreed on the marriage of “Gillion de Beaumets son frère avec Dlle Jeannain fille du seigneur de Beauvoir” by charter dated May 1262[401]. Châtelain de Bapaume. He gave consent to the marriage contract of his granddaughter Roberte dated 14 Dec 1309, quoted below. “Robers chastelains de Bappaumes sires de Beaumez” confirmed, at the request of “monseigneur Engerran de Marreigny”, the inheritance of “Giles no[stre] fieus” under his marriage contract with “madame Yde dame de Croisilles fille jadis monseigneur de Croizilles” by charter dated 28 Feb 1313[402]. m ISABELLE, daughter of --- (-after 14 Dec 1309). The seal of “Ysabel châteleine de Bapaumes de ---“, affixed to a charter dated May 1295, displays “Dame debout, en robe et en manteau, accostée à dextre d’un écu à la croix engrêlée, et à sénestre d’un écu portant cinq losanges”[403]. The description of the right-hand part is consistent with the Beaumetz shield described from other family seals inventoried in the same source. The left-hand part presumably provides an indication of Isabelle’s family origin. Demay’s inventory of seals of Artois and Picardie records “cinq losanges en bande“ on the seals of Enguerrand de Flaissières, Baudouin Seigneur de Pechevilliers and Florent de Méricourt[404], while the seals of Jean Seigneur de Croisilles and Raoul le Flamenc Seigneur de Canny both bore “dix losanges...”[405]. It is difficult to draw definite conclusions from this range of information. Isabelle gave consent to the marriage contract of her granddaughter Roberte dated 14 Dec 1309, quoted below. Robert & his wife had children:

a) GILLES [IV] de Beaumetz (-before 14 Dec 1309). His parentage is confirmed by his father’s donation on his marriage, quoted below under his wife. He is named as deceased in the marriage contract of his daughter Roberte dated 14 Dec 1309, quoted below. “Robers chastelains de Bappaumes sires de Beaumez” confirmed, at the request of “monseigneur Engerran de Marreigny”, the inheritance of “Giles no[stre] fieus” under his marriage contract with “madame Yde dame de Croisilles fille jadis monseigneur de Croizilles” by charter dated 28 Feb 1313[406]. m (1295) IDE [d’Esquaincourt] Dame de Croisilles, daughter of --- (-after 14 Dec 1309). “Robert, sr de Beaumés” donated property to “Gillon son fils, en le mariant à Ide de Croisilles” by charter dated 1295[407]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified. Demay’s inventory of seals of Artois and Picardie records the seals of “Iohannis domicelli dni de Croisilles“ and “madame Izabelle Desca---” [called “Isabeau dame d’Equancourt, femme de Jean de [Croisilles]” in Dernay’s heading] attached to a charter dated 1282[408]. This couple corresponds to the correct timeframe as parents of Ide. Ide was party to the marriage contract of her daughter Roberte dated 14 Dec 1309, quoted below. Some details about her family are provided in the following document, although it is not known whether Guy d’Esquaincourt was Ide’s full brother: “Yde dame de Croisilles, Loys de Marreigny et Roberte sa fame fille de ladite dame” appointed “monseigneur Guy d’Eskaencourt frere a moi dessus dite Ydain, monseigneur Gile de Clari, monseigneur Guillaume de Villers chevaliers et madame Jehanne fame dudit monseigneur Gile, sereur a moy devant dite Ydain” as proxies to request royal approval of a loan to Enguerrand de Marigny by charter dated 11 Nov 1311[409]. Gilles & his wife had one child:

i) ROBERTE de Beaumetz (-1352). Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the following document: “Mahault comtesse d’Artois et de Bourgoigne...” attested the marriage contract between “Enguerran sire de Marigny et chambellan Monsieur le Roy de France...Louys ainsné filz dudict Monsieur Enguerran” and “Noble Dame Yde de Croisilles...Damoiselle Roberte fille jadis à Monsieur Gilles de Beaumez et de ladicte Madame Yde”, with the consent of “Noble Homme Robert chastelain de Bapaumes et Seigneur de Beaumez et de Madame Ysabel sa femme ayeul et ayeule de ladicte Damoiselle Roberte”, by charter dated 14 Dec 1309[410]. “Yde dame de Croisilles, Loys de Marreigny et Roberte sa fame fille de ladite dame” appointed “monseigneur Guy d’Eskaencourt frere a moi dessus dite Ydain, monseigneur Gile de Clari, monseigneur Guillaume de Villers chevaliers et madame Jehanne fame dudit monseigneur Gile, sereur a moy devant dite Ydain” as proxies to request royal approval of a loan to Enguerrand de Marigny by charter dated 11 Nov 1311[411]. Châtelaine de Bapaume. Her second marriage is confirmed by a document of the Parlement de Paris dated 23 Nov 1336 maintaining security against “Louis de Marigny chevalier premier mari de la femme du sire de Rosny”[412]. m firstly (contract 14 Dec 1309) LOUIS de Marigny, son of ENGUERRAND [II] de Marigny Comte de Longueville, Chambellan de France & his first wife Jeanne --- ([1289/95]-1328). m secondly ([1328]) as his second wife, GUY [IX] Mauvoisin Seigneur de Rosny, son of GUY [VIII] Mauvoisin Seigneur de Rosny & his wife Laure de Ponthieu (-after 1360).

b) MARGUERITE de Beaumetz (-after 4 Sep 1335). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by a document of the Parlement de Paris dated 9 Jan 1329 relating to income from land inherited by “Louis comte de Sancerre, Hugues de Lorraine écuyer sire de la Roche et Marguerite sa femme” from “Robert sire de Beaumetz châtelain de Bapaume et d’Isabeau sa femme”[413]. “Thierri de Bevere châtelain de Dixmude...hommes de fief du comte de Flandre” and others notified that “Hugues de Lorraine seigneur de Martigny chevalier et Marguerite de Beaumez sa femme” had declared their intention to sell “le château et la terre de Bevere” to the count of Flanders by charter dated 4 Sep 1335[414]. m (contract 1 Jul 1317) HUGUES de Lorraine, son of THIBAUT II Duke of Lorraine & his wife Isabelle de Rumigny (-after 20 Mar 1337). His brother granted him the château de Saurupt 13 Nov 1312 in return for renouncing his rights to Lorraine. His mother ceded him the château de Rumigny on his marriage[415].

c) LOUISE de Beaumetz (-before 1323, bur Bourges Jacobins). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by a document of the Parlement de Paris dated 9 Jan 1329 relating to income from land inherited by “Louis comte de Sancerre, Hugues de Lorraine écuyer sire de la Roche et Marguerite sa femme” from “Robert sire de Beaumetz châtelain de Bapaume et d’Isabeau sa femme”[416]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. m as his first wife, JEAN [II] Comte de Sancerre, son of JEAN [I] Comte de Sancerre & his wife Marie de Vierzon (-1327, bur Bourges Jacobins).

B. SEIGNEURS de GUISE

The town of Guise lies on the river Oise in eastern Picardie, south-east of Cambrai and east of Saint-Quentin. In Roman times, it fell administratively within the pagus Teoracensis [Thiérache][417]. Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks granted the fiefs of Hucquigny, near Guise, and Hannape to the historian Nithard in 845[418]. Nithard, childless by his wife Erchanfride, donated his fiefdoms to the abbey of Prüm, Hannape being transferred subsequently to the abbey of Prémontré[419]. It is thought that the fortress of Guise was constructed in the late 9th/early 10th century, the châtelains being vassals of the Comtes de Vermandois[420]. The construction of the castle of Guise, which replaced the old fortress, is generally attributed to Godefroi de Guise (see below)[421]. The Seigneurs de Guise also possessed the castles of Lesquielles and Hirson, and their two chapels[422].

The origin of the later Seigneurs de Guise is not known. According to the Histoire de Guise, "Gauthier de Saint-Aubert avait épousé vers 986 une sœur du comte de Vermandois…Eleonore", the author speculating on the possibility of a relationship between Gauthier de Saint-Aubert and the family of the Seigneurs de Guise[423].

1. GAUTHIER de Guise (-after 5 Aug 1058). "Walteri de Guisia" subscribed a charter of Henri I King of France in favour of the monastery of Hasnon dated 5 Aug 1058[424].

2. GEOFFROY de Guise . The construction of the castle of Guise, which replaced the old fortress, is generally attributed to Godefroi de Guise[425]. Seigneur de Guise. m as her first husband, ADA de Ramerupt, daughter of HILDUIN [IV] de Montdidier et de Ramerupt Comte de Roucy & his wife Adelaide de Roucy ([1040/60]-after 1121, bur Abbaye de Liessies). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ada…de Guisia" as sixth daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy[426]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "quartam…Hilduini comitis filiam Adam" as wife firstly of "Godefridus de Guisia" and secondly of "Galterum de Aat" and thirdly of "Theoderico de Avesnis"[427]. She married secondly Gauthier Seigneur d’Ath, and thirdly Thierry Seigneur d'Avesnes. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[428]. She built the convent of Lessies with her third husband, where she retired after his death and was buried[429]. Geoffroy & his wife had [two] children:

a) GUY de Guise (-after 1124). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Guidonem" as son of "Godefridus de Guisia" & his wife[430]. Seigneur de Guise.

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b) [ALBERT de Guise (-after 1141). Albert de Guise is named in a charter of Nicolas Bishop of Cambrai dated 1141[431]. His parentage is not known, but from a chronological point of view he coild have been the son of Geoffroy Seigneur de Guise.]

GUY de Guise, son of GEOFFROY Seigneur de Guise & his wife Ada de Ramerupt ([1060/80]-after 1124). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Guidonem" as son of "Godefridus de Guisia" & his wife[432]. Seigneur de Guise. "Widonis de Lecherii [Lesquielles]" subscribed the charter dated 1104 under which Godefroi de Ribemont donated property to the monastery of Saint-Prix[433], the castle of Lesquielles being another property of the Seigneurs de Guise (see above). Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[434]. Barthélemy Bishop of Cambrai confirmed the donation of “alodium de S. Germano, villas de Paciis, de Estrea” made to Famy abbey by “Guidone de Guisia consanguineo nostro” with the consent of “uxoris suæ Aeluidis quæ vulgo Machania dicitur”, by charter dated Dec 1120, in the presence of “Gerardi de S. Auberto...Guasconis de Thorota, Petri de Malovicino...”[435]. The family relationship between the bishop and the Guise family has not yet been traced. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[436]. Guy de Guise donated property to the abbey of Saint-Prix de Saint-Quentin by charter dated 1123[437].

m as her first husband, ADELINE [Machaine], daughter of ---. It is possible that she was Adeline de Montmorency, daughter of Bouchard [III] Seigneur de Montmorency & his first wife Agnes de Beaumont. Her parentage and marriage are suggested by Orderic Vitalis who records that "Petrus…Manliæ" married "Adam, Burchardi de Montemorentii neptem et comitis Gisinarum filiam"[438]. Le Prévost assumes that "comitis Gisinarum" refers to the comte de Guines and states that "Ade fille de Manassès comte de Guines et d’Emme de Tancarville" married "en effet Pierre de Maule et mourut sans enfants avant son père"[439]. He cites no source which provides the basis for his statement, while conceding that he found no family relationship between the Montmorency and Guines families. Duchesne also assumes that Guines is the correct interpretation, although, on the basis that "neptem" indicates niece, he suggests that the relationship was through a daughter of Hervé Seigneur de Montmorency (which appears difficult to sustain from a chronological point of view)[440]. No record has been found in other primary sources that Robert [Manassès] Comte de Guines had another daughter besides Sibylle [Rose] who married Henri Châtelain de Bourbourg (see above in the present document). However, it is possible that "Gisinarum" refers to "Guise" (which is normally referred to in primary sources in Latin as "Guisia" or "Guisciensis") and that the granddaughter of Bouchard [III] Seigneur de Montmorency (assuming that "neptem" in Orderic’s passage indicates grand-daughter, not niece) was the daughter of the seigneur de Guise. If this is correct, the chronology dictates that her father must have been Guy Seigneur de Guise. This proposed parentage is corroborated by Guy Seigneur de Guise naming his second son Bouchard, presumably after his father-in-law. Barthélemy Bishop of Cambrai confirmed the donation of “alodium de S. Germano, villas de Paciis, de Estrea” made to Famy abbey by “Guidone de Guisia consanguineo nostro” with the consent of “uxoris suæ Aeluidis quæ vulgo Machania dicitur”, by charter dated Dec 1120[441]. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[442]. She married secondly Henri ---. The Histoire de Guise refers to her second marriage, stating that her second husband consented to Adeline's donation to the church of Prémontré at Clairefontaine[443].

Guy & his wife had [ten] children:

1. ADAM de Guise (-after 1121). "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[444].

2. BOUCHARD de Guise (-after 1161). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Burgardum et Godefridum et sorores eorum" as childen of "Guidonem [de Guisia]"[445]. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[446]. Seigneur de Guise. A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of “castelli...Lescherii” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Balduinus de Subpeio”, with the consent of “uxore sua Machania privignoque et eodem genero suo Burchardo de Gusia cum uxore sua Adelidi ipsius...Baldewini filia”[447]. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Burchardus dominus de Guisia” granted rights to Bucilly, with the consent of “conjugis suæ Ælidis et Godefridi fratris sui”, in 1155[448]. m ADELAIS, daughter of BAUDOUIN de Soupir & his wife Machane ---. A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of “castelli...Lescherii” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Balduinus de Subpeio”, with the consent of “uxore sua Machania privignoque et eodem genero suo Burchardo de Gusia cum uxore sua Adelidi ipsius...Baldewini filia”[449]. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Burchardus dominus de Guisia” granted rights to Bucilly, with the consent of “conjugis suæ Ælidis et Godefridi fratris sui”, in 1155[450]. Bouchard & his wife had one child:

a) ADELINE de Guise (-after 1200). The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Adelviam Buchardi de Guisa filiam" as wife of "Iacobum [filium Nicholai…de Avethnes]"[451]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" married "Adeluyam unicam filiam Bouchardi domini de Guisia"[452]. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Adeluya domina Guisiæ” donated property to Bucilly in 1196 for the soul of “mariti sui Jacobi de Avenis”, with the consent of “Gualteri filii sui cæterorum liberorum suorum”[453]. “Jacobus dominus de Landreceis filius magni Jacobi domini de Avesnis et de Guisia” granted freedoms to the town of Landrecies, with the consent of “Addelinæ matris meæ et domini fratris mei Walteri de Avesnis et Nicolai de Etroeungt”, by charter dated 1200[454]. m ([1163/68]) JACQUES d'Avesnes, son of NICOLAS Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Mahaut de la Roche ([1150]-killed in battle Arsuf, Palestine 7 Sep 1191).

3. GODEFROI de Guise (-after 1155). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Burgardum et Godefridum et sorores eorum" as childen of "Guidonem [de Guisia]"[455]. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Burchardus dominus de Guisia” granted rights to Bucilly, with the consent of “conjugis suæ Ælidis et Godefridi fratris sui”, in 1155[456]. m BEATRIX, daughter of ---. Godefroy de Guise and his wife Beatrix approved donations of property to the abbey of Tronquoy[457]. Godefroi & his wife had five children:

a) RENIER de Guise (-after 1189). The Histoire de Guise names "Renier…Havide, Mathilde, Marie, Adelewide" as the children of Godefroy de Guise and his wife Beatrix, as well as Renier's wife "Awelvia ou Adèle" and their children "Gauthier, Godefroy et Renier tous vivants en 1189"[458]. m ADELA, daughter of ---.

b) HAVIDE de Guise (-after 1189). The Histoire de Guise names "Renier…Havide, Mathilde, Marie, Adelewide" as the children of Godefroy de Guise and his wife Beatrix "…tous vivants en 1189"[459].

c) MATHILDE de Guise (-after 1189). The Histoire de Guise names "Renier…Havide, Mathilde, Marie, Adelewide" as the children of Godefroy de Guise and his wife Beatrix "…tous vivants en 1189"[460].

d) MARIE de Guise (-after 1189). The Histoire de Guise names "Renier…Havide, Mathilde, Marie, Adelewide" as the children of Godefroy de Guise and his wife Beatrix "…tous vivants en 1189"[461].

e) ADELAIDE de Guise (-after 1189). The Histoire de Guise names "Renier…Havide, Mathilde, Marie, Adelewide" as the children of Godefroy de Guise and his wife Beatrix "…tous vivants en 1189"[462].

4. RENIER de Guise . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. same person as...? RENIER de Guise (-after 1161). “Rainerus de Guisia assensu uxoris sue Sybilie” donated property in “territorium de Sainz, de Marfontanis...” to the abbey of Foigny by charter dated 1161[463]. m SIBYLLE, daughter of --- (-after 1161). “Rainerus de Guisia assensu uxoris sue Sybilie” donated property in “territorium de Sainz, de Marfontanis...” to the abbey of Foigny by charter dated 1161[464].

5. [ADA . Orderic Vitalis records that "Petrus…Manliæ" married "Adam, Burchardi de Montemorentii neptem et comitis Gisinarum filiam"[465]. The question whether "Gisinarum" can refer to Guise is discussed above in relation to Ada’s possible mother Adeline [de Montmorency]. m PIERRE Le Riche Seigneur de Maule, son of ANSOUD Le Riche Seigneur de Maule & his wife Odesinde Mauvoisin (-after 1124).]

6. ADELINE . Goethals records her parentage and marriage without citing the source which confirms the information[466]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified. m RORICON Seigneur de Roye, son of AUBRY de Roye & his wife Helvide --- (-after 1192).

7. HAVOISE . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Burgardum et Godefridum et sorores eorum" as childen of "Guidonem [de Guisia]", specifying that one sister married "Simone de Inci" their children being "Hugonem et Galterum"[467]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. m SIMON de Inchy, son of ---.

8. daughter . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Burgardum et Godefridum et sorores eorum" as childen of "Guidonem [de Guisia]", specifying that one sister married "Anselmo, filio Hulardi de Sancto Quintino" their children being "duas filias; quarum una nupsit Guidoni de Moi"[468]. m ANSELME de Saint-Quentin, son of HULARD de Saint-Quentin & his wife ---.

9. daughter . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Burgardum et Godefridum et sorores eorum" as childen of "Guidonem [de Guisia]", specifying that the third sister married "Duido de Wspais" their children being "Matheum et Guidonem et sorores eorum"[469]. m DUDO d'Ypres, son of ---.

10. daughter . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Burgardum et Godefridum et sorores eorum" as childen of "Guidonem [de Guisia]", specifying that the fourth sister married "Rainero agnomine Muto" their children being "Renerum et filias"[470]. m RAINIER "Muto" ---.

C. SEIGNEURS de HAM

Ham is located south-east of Péronne and south-west of Saint-Quintin. Père Anselme reproduces a reconstruction of the family of the seigneurs de Ham which appears to be unsupported by primary sources and has not been copied unless the information has been corroborated as shown below[471].

1. SIMON (-after 986). Gomart says that Simon was “issue de la grande maison des comtes de Vermandois” but cites no source on which he bases his statement[472]. It appears that Simon is named only in the one source which follows, which provides no indication of his family origin. Châtelain de Ham. “...Symonis castellani de Ham...” subscribed the charter dated 986 under which “Albertus comes” donated land “ad Hamum” to found the abbey of Saint-Prix[473].

1. YVES de Ham (-[1076/12 Mar 1089]). “Yves” donated “Heremburgem” to Noyon by charter dated 29 Jan 1055[474]. “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1076 under which “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus”[475]. m ---. The name of Yves’s wife is not known. Yves & his wife had one child:

a) EUDES [I] de Ham (-after 12 Mar 1089). “Odon fils d’Yves” is named with “sa femme Emma” in a charter for Homblières dated to [1060][476]. “Odo Hamensis dominus” confirmed the donation of “Heremburgem” to Noyon made by “patris mei” by charter dated 12 Mar 1089[477]. m EMMA, daughter of --- (-after [1060]). “Odon fils d’Yves” is named with “sa femme Emma” in a charter for Homblières dated to [1060][478].

1. EUDES [II] de Ham (-after 1144). A charter dated 5 Jul 1101 records the settlement of a dispute between "Hamensis Odo" and Compiègne Saint-Corneille relating to two serfs[479]. “O. Hamensis castelli dominus” donated the church of Notre-Dame de Ham to the bishop of Noyon, with the consent of “uxoris suæ donæ L.”, by charter dated 1108[480]. m L[OUISE], daughter of ---. “O. Hamensis castelli dominus” donated the church of Notre-Dame de Ham to the bishop of Noyon, with the consent of “uxoris suæ donæ L.”, by charter dated 1108[481]. According to Gomart, the wife of Eudes [II] was named Louise but he cites no source on which he bases his statement[482]. Odon de Ham is named with (among others) Gérard de Picquigny and Jacques de Guise in a charter of Corbie dated 1144[483]. Eudes [II] & his wife had two children:

a) GERARD de Ham . “Gerardus Hamensis dominus filius Odonis pedis Lupi” donated “decimam de Albincurte quam Albricus de Roya de feodo meo tenebat...” to Homblières by charter dated 1144[484]. “Gérard de Ham” donated pasturage “de Margères près Douilly” to the church of Saint-Nicolas en Arrouaise, with the consent of “sa femme Marguerite et de son frère Lanscelin”, by charter dated 1145[485]. 1182. Seigneur de Ham. m MARGUERITE, daughter of ---. “Gérard de Ham” donated pasturage “de Margères près Douilly” to the church of Saint-Nicolas en Arrouaise, with the consent of “sa femme Marguerite et de son frère Lanscelin”, by charter dated 1145[486].

b) LANCELIN de Ham (-[1160/82]). “Gérard de Ham” donated pasturage “de Margères près Douilly” to the church of Saint-Nicolas en Arrouaise, with the consent of “sa femme Marguerite et de son frère Lanscelin”, by charter dated 1145[487]. Lancelin de Ham donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1160[488]. m ---. The name of Lancelin’s wife is not known. Lancelin & his wife had four children:

i) EUDES [III] de Ham (-after 1188). “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[489].

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ii) GERARD de Ham . “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[490].

iii) SIMON de Ham . “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[491].

iv) LANCELIN de Ham . “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[492].

EUDES [III] de Ham, son of LANCELIN de Ham & his wife --- (-after 1188). “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[493].

m ELISABETH, daughter of --- (-after 1177). “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[494].

Eudes [III] & his wife had two children:

1. EUDES [IV] de Ham (-6 Oct 1234, bur Ham Notre-Dame). “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[495]. “Odon de Ham” confirmed the foundation of the chapel of Saint-Etienne by “Marie sa fille” by undated charter[496]. The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Odo de Han” holding “baroniam suam et castrum de Ham”[497]. “Eude de Ham” confirmed that he held all his lands from the king except his holdings from the bishop of Noyon by charter dated Mar 1214 (O.S.)[498]. An epitaph in Notre-Dame de Ham records the burial of “Odo 4 dominus Hamensis” who died 6 Oct 1234[499]. m ISABELLE de Béthencourt, daughter of HUGUES de Béthencourt & his wife ---. An epitaph in Notre-Dame de Ham records the burial of “Isabella filia Hugonis de Bethencourt et uxor Odonis 4 domini Hamensis”[500]. Eudes [IV] & his wife had one child:

a) EUDES [V] de Ham (-1260). “Odon de Ham” granted “à Jean son fils quelques héritages...à Bucy près Noyon” by charter dated 1260 which names “sa femme Hellovis dame de Catheu”[501]. An epitaph in Notre-Dame de Ham records the burial of “Odo primogenitus 4 Odonis domini Hamens. et Isabella de Bethencourt uxoris eius”[502]. m HELVISE Dame de Catheu, daughter of ---. “Odon de Ham” granted “à Jean son fils quelques héritages...à Bucy près Noyon” by charter dated 1260 which names “sa femme Hellovis dame de Catheu”[503]. Eudes [III] & his wife had one child:

i) JEAN [I] de Ham (-after Nov 1272). “Odon de Ham” granted “à Jean son fils quelques héritages...à Bucy près Noyon” by charter dated 1260 which names “sa femme Hellovis dame de Catheu”[504].

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2. GAUTHIER (-after 1177). “Domini Odonis de Ham” donated property to Ham abbey by charter dated 1177 which names “sa femme Elisabeth, ses frères Gérard, Simon et Lanscelin, ses enfants Odon et Gautier”[505].

JEAN [I] de Ham, son of EUDES [V] Seigneur de Ham & his wife Helvise Dame de Catheu (-after 1276). Jean de Ham sold harvest from “le moulin de Sancourt” to Corbie abbey, with the consent of “Marie sa femme et de Jean son fils”, by charter dated 1248[506]. “Odon de Ham” granted “à Jean son fils quelques héritages...à Bucy près Noyon” by charter dated 1260 which names “sa femme Hellovis dame de Catheu”[507]. “Jehans chevaliers sires de Ham et...Marie femme de celui Jehan” donated property to Héronval by charter dated Feb 1264[508]. “Jehans chevaliers sires de Ham en Vermandois...et...Marie femme au devant dit mon seigneur Jehan” confirmed a donation to Héronval by “Bertemius dis Messagiers bourgois de Ham” by charter dated Nov 1272[509].

m MARIE, daughter of --- (-after Nov 1272). Jean de Ham sold harvest from “le moulin de Sancourt” to Corbie abbey, with the consent of “Marie sa femme et de Jean son fils”, by charter dated 1248[510]. “Jehans chevaliers sires de Ham et...Marie femme de celui Jehan” donated property to Héronval by charter dated Feb 1264[511]. “Jehans chevaliers sires de Ham en Vermandois...et...Marie femme au devant dit mon seigneur Jehan” confirmed a donation to Héronval by “Bertemius dis Messagiers bourgois de Ham” by charter dated Nov 1272[512].

Jean [I] & his wife had one child:

1. JEAN [II] de Ham (-[Mar 1283/Mar 1287]). Jean de Ham sold harvest from “le moulin de Sancourt” to Corbie abbey, with the consent of “Marie sa femme et de Jean son fils”, by charter dated 1248[513]. Jean de Ham sold “les deux moulins de [Ham] situés sur la Somme” to Ham abbey, with the consent of “son père”, by charter dated 1276[514].

1. EUDES [VI] de Ham (-before 1313). No primary source has been identified which confirms the relationship between Eudes [VI] and Jean [II]. The chronology indicates that they could have been brothers or father and son. “Oudars escuiers sires de Hem en Vermandois...et...damoisele Doree fame au devant dit Oudart” confirmed that “Jehans diz li Rois bourjois de Ham...” had sold property to Héronval by charter dated Mar 1287[515]. “Oudars chevaliers sires de Ham...et...Doree fame dou devant monsegneur Oudart de Ham chevalier” confirmed property of “Pierres Peruche dis Baubers...jadis bourjois de Ham...” by charter dated Oct 1300[516]. [m firstly MARGUERITE, daughter of --- (-before Mar 1287). Marguerite, wife of Eudes de Ham, donated harvest to the nuns of Genlis by charter dated to before 1291[517]. The closeness of this date to the date of the Mar 1287 which names Eudes’s wife Dorée suggests that the latter may have been a nickname and that the two documents refer to the same person. m [secondly] DOREE, daughter of --- (-after Oct 1300). “Oudars escuiers sires de Hem en Vermandois...et...damoisele Doree fame au devant dit Oudart” confirmed that “Jehans diz li Rois bourjois de Ham...” had sold property to Héronval by charter dated Mar 1287[518]. “Oudars chevaliers sires de Ham...et...Doree fame dou devant monsegneur Oudart de Ham chevalier” confirmed property of “Pierres Peruche dis Baubers...jadis bourjois de Ham...” by charter dated Oct 1300[519]. Gomart states that Dorée was a widow in 1313 but does not cite the corresponding source[520].

2. EUDES [VII] de Ham (-before 27 Sep 1340). It is supposed that Eudes [VII] was the son of Eudes [VI] de Ham but the primary source which confirms that this supposition is correct has not been identified. “Oudars chevaliers sires de Hamet de Marchevile et...Ysabiaus de Heilli fame dou dit mon seigneur Oudart...dame des lius devant diz et d’Auchie” confirmed a sale of property by charter dated Jun 1326[521]. m ISABELLE de Heilly Dame d'Authie, daughter of ---. “Oudars chevaliers sires de Hamet de Marchevile et...Ysabiaus de Heilli fame dou dit mon seigneur Oudart...dame des lius devant diz et d’Auchie” confirmed a sale of property by charter dated Jun 1326[522].

3. JEAN [III] de Ham (-after 26 May 1367). It is supposed that Jean [III] was the son of Eudes [VII] de Ham but the primary source which confirms that this supposition is correct has not been identified. Jean de Ham issued a charter dated 26 May 1367 relating to the town of Ham[523].

D. LE FLAMENC

The principle landholdings of the Flamenc family, who from their name must have originated in Flanders, were Canny (now Canny-sur-Matz, about 10 kilometres south of Roye, in the present-day French département of Oise, arrondissement Compiègne, canton Lassigny) and Varesnes (also in Oise/Compiègne, canton Noyon). The primary source documentation which has been consulted during the preparation of this section does not support parts of the family reconstruction offered by Père Anselme[524], although it is of course not known whether he used additional documents which have since disappeared. The family was studied more recently by Margry, but unfortunately he relied largely on Anselme so perpetuated the difficulties[525]. The major problems in producing a reliable reconstruction are highlighted below.

In addition to the main line of descent, Margry lists several unconnected Flamenc individuals whose relationships with the main family he could not ascertain on the basis of the sources which he consulted[526]. The difficulty is that “le Flamenc” could indicate more broadly “the Fleming” and so could have been used by many individuals from Flanders who were unconnected with the family of the seigneurs de Canny. These individuals are not shown below.

1. RAOUL [I] le Flamenc (-after 1128). Graves states that in 1128 “Raoul I dit Flamenc” held Varesnes, Canny-sur-Matz and Champien (no source cited)[527]. The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified. [“Drogo de Petrefonte, Radulphus Flamens...” witnessed the charter dated 1144 under which “Radulphus...Cosduni oppidi dominus” donated “decima altaris Sancti Hylarii Cosduni” to Saint-Amand[528]. There is no indication whether this document refers to Raoul [I] or Raoul [II].]

2. RAOUL [II] le Flamenc (-after [1158]). [“Drogo de Petrefonte, Radulphus Flamens...” witnessed the charter dated 1144 under which “Radulphus...Cosduni oppidi dominus” donated “decima altaris Sancti Hylarii Cosduni” to Saint-Amand[529]. There is no indication whether this document refers to Raoul [I] or Raoul [II].] "Radulfus cognomento Flandrensis" confirmed donations made by “Radulfus Daridellus de minuta decima territoriii de Warnaviler” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated to [1158][530]. The 30 year interval between this document and the earlier mention of Raoul [I] suggests that the two were different persons.

Two brothers:

1. RAOUL [III] le Flamenc (-after 14 Mar 1215). Père Anselme records that Raoul [III] was named in 1199 (no citation reference)[531]. A charter dated 14 Mar 1214 (O.S.) lists the knights from Vermandois who fought at Bouvines, including “...Albert de Hangest...l’héritier de Raoul de Roie, Raoul d’Estrées...Hugues de Boves, Enguerrand de Boves, Robert de Boves, Gaultier d’Heilly...l’héritier de Hangest...Jean de Roie...Barthélemy de Roie, Gautier d’Avesnes et son frère Ason...Raoul Flament...”[532].

2. HENRI le Flamenc . Seigneur de Beauvoir. Père Anselme records that “Henry le Flamenc seigneur de Beauvoir” found a chapel (unspecified) with the consent of his brother [Raoul [III] le Flamenc] (undated)[533].

No primary source has been identified which establishes the family relationship between Raoul [III] le Flamenc and Adam le Flamenc: the possibilities include their having been father and son, or brothers.

1. ADAM le Flamenc (-[1226/27]). Seigneur de Canny: Graves states that in 1226 “Adam de Canny...” granted privileges to the inhabitants of Varesnes, and that “Raoul IV fils de celui-ci” granted revenues from Varesnes to “sa femme Marie” in 1248 (no source cited)[534]. Père Anselme says that Adam le Flamenc founded “la chapelle d’Ancourt” in 1226[535]. The corresponding primary source has not been identified. m ---. The name of Adam’s wife is not known. Adam & his wife had one child:

a) RAOUL [IV] le Flamenc (-after 1248). Seigneur de Canny: “Raoul de Cauni surnommé Le Flamenc” left the supporters of the count of Flanders and joined the king of France in 1227[536]. "Radulfus cognomento Flamenc" confirmed donations made by “dominus Galterus de Antolio miles...tertiam partem decime...de...Antolium” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated Feb 1227 (O.S.?)[537]. A list of knights participating in a tournament at Compiègne in Jun 1238 includes “...Raoul Flammens...”[538]. Graves states that in 1226 “Adam de Canny...” granted privileges to the inhabitants of Varesnes, and that “Raoul IV fils de celui-ci” granted revenues from Varesnes to “sa femme Marie” in 1248 (no source cited)[539]. m [firstly] --- de Créquy, daughter of BAUDOUIN [II] Seigneur de Créquy & his wife Marguerite de Saint-Omer. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “filiarum...domini Balduini de Creki junioris...quarta” married “domino Rudolpho Flamment” and had “duas...filias”, of whom one married “domino Joanni de Eppe” and the other “domino Gerardo de Sorel”[540]. The chronology of her mother’s family suggests this person’s birth in [1195/1220], which indicates Raoul [IV] le Flamenc as her husband. [m secondly MARIE, daughter of --- (-after 1248). Graves states that in 1226 “Adam de Canny...” granted privileges to the inhabitants of Varesnes, and that “Raoul IV fils de celui-ci” granted revenues from Varesnes to “sa femme Marie” in 1248 (no source cited)[541]. It is unclear whether Marie was the name of the daughter of Baudouin [II] de Créquy or was a later wife of Raoul [IV]. A later marriage is suggested by (1) the genealogy written by Balduinus de Avennis only recording two daughters of Raoul [IV] by his marriage to the daughter of Baudouin [II] de Créquy and (2) the possibility that Raoul [V] le Flamenc (see below), Raoul [IV]’s successor as Seigneur de Canny, was son of the latter and would therefore have been born from a later marriage.] Raoul [IV] & his [first] wife had two children:

i) --- le Flamenc . The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “filiarum...domini Balduini de Creki junioris...quarta” married “domino Rudolpho Flamment” and had “duas...filias”, of whom one married “domino Joanni de Eppe” and the other “domino Gerardo de Sorel”[542]. m JEAN Seigneur d’Eppe, son of ---.

ii) --- le Flamenc . The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “filiarum...domini Balduini de Creki junioris...quarta” married “domino Rudolpho Flamment” and had “duas...filias”, of whom one married “domino Joanni de Eppe” and the other “domino Gerardo de Sorel”[543]. m GERARD Seigneur de Sorel, son of ---.

Two brothers. No primary source has been identified which confirms that Raoul le Flamenc Seigneur de Carempuy was the same person as Raoul [III] le Flamenc Seigneur de Canny. As noted above, Carempuy was recorded in 1128 as one of the Flamenc family properties but it is possible that it was granted to a younger branch of the family, along with Biarre which was held by Pierre, Raoul’s brother as shown below.

1. RAOUL le Flamenc (-after 1220). Seigneur de Carempuy: “Raoul Flamand chevalier seigneur de Carrépuis” confirmed the donation made by “son frère Pierre Flamand seigneur de Biarre” for building a church at Biarre, by charter dated 1220[544].

2. PIERRE le Flamenc (-after 1220). Seigneur de Biarre: “Raoul Flamand chevalier seigneur de Carrépuis” confirmed the donation made by “son frère Pierre Flamand seigneur de Biarre” for building a church at Biarre, by charter dated 1220[545].

No primary source has been identified which confirms the parentage of Raoul [V] le Flamenc Seigneur de Canny. Presumably he succeeded Raoul [IV]. As noted above, the genealogy written by Balduinus de Avennis records that Raoul [IV] had two daughters by his marriage to the daughter of Baudouin [II] Seigneur de Créquy. If Raoul [V] was Raoul [IV]’s son, he would presumably have been born from a later marriage. Maybe Marie, named as Raoul [IV]’s wife in 1248, was his mother.

1. RAOUL [V] le Flamenc (-after 1289). A charter dated Jul 1257 records that "Ysabella dicta le Lombarde" asserted that “Heluidis dicta de Amblegni defuncta, civis quondam Noviomensis” at the time of her death held properties in Noyon including land “quos tenet dominus Radulfus Flamens juxta Hedinum septimam garbam”[546]. Seigneur de Varesnes: a charter dated Jan 1261 (O.S.?) records an agreement between “Raoul de Flamens chevalier sire de Varesnes, Aubert de Hangest écuyer sire de Genlis, Aubry de Lachény écuyer” and the bishop of Noyon regarding “l’exploitation des bois du Caisnoy”[547]. Seigneur de Canny: "Raous Flamens chevaliers sires de Kauni" exchanged property “seans a la Carmoie entre...Lescouvillon et men manoir de Biauvoir” with Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated Aug 1276[548]. Maréchal de France [1285]: the genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “Messire Eustasses Torchapeaux sire de Conflans et de Mareuil” and his wife had one daughter who married “en monseigneur Flaman de Canny qui fut mareschal de France au voiage d’Arragon”[549]. A charter dated 1289 records an agreement between Ourscamp and "Radulfum Flamenc" relating to “terra de Waescort”[550]. m ([1250]) --- de Conflans, daughter of EUSTACHE [II] Seigneur de Conflans & his wife Helvide de Thourotte. The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “Messire Eustasses Torchapeaux sire de Conflans et de Mareuil” and his wife had one daughter who married “en monseigneur Flaman de Canny qui fut mareschal de France au voiage d’Arragon”[551]. The chronology of the Conflans family suggests that the marriage should be dated very approximately to around [1250].

No primary source has been identified which confirms the parentage of Raoul [VI]. From a chronological point of view, it is likely that he was a different person from Raoul [V], whose son he could have been as shown by Père Anselme[552].

1. RAOUL [VI] le Flamenc (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302). "Raoul Flamens chevalier sires de Cauni" relinquished revenue in favour of Ourscamp by charter dated Apr 1301[553]. The Chronique Artésienne names “...Mesires Raous Flamens...” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai (11 Jul 1302)[554]. m [ELEONORE], daughter of --- (-after 1313). Père Anselme states that the widow of Raoul [VI] “fit bâtir la grosse tour de Varennes ès années 1310, 1311, 1312, 1313 et acquit la terre de Mondescourt”[555]. He identifies “Eléonore de Hangest” (whom he says was daughter of Aubert [VI] de Hangest) as Raoul [VI]’s wife, which is chronologically impossible given the date of birth of Aubert [VI]’s daughter (see below). Richemond says that Raoul [VI]’s wife was the daughter of Aubert [V] de Hangest and his wife [Eléonore] de Villebéon[556]. He cites no source to corroborate this information, which he bases on the chronological impossibility of the death in 1302 of the husband of a daughter of Aubert [VI]. He does not consider the explanation that Eléonore’s husband was misidentified by Père Anselme. Copies of the 1310-1313 sources to which Anselme refers have not been found. It is not known therefore whether they name Raoul [VI]’s widow “Eléonore”, although that could explain Anselme’s confusion about Eléonore de Hangest if they did. If, in addition, the 1310-1313 documents name her “Eléonore de Hangest”, Raoul [VI] must have married a different person of that name born in an earlier generation of the Hangest family. From a chronological point of view, that person could have been the daughter of Aubert [V], although this would add the problem of possible consanguinity between the younger Eléonore de Hangest and her husband to the other difficulties in reconstructing the Flamenc line.

Given the confusion between the different heads of the Flamenc family named Raoul, the father of the following person is uncertain.

1. FLORENCE le Flamenc (-7 Feb [1337]). Père Anselme records her marriage, indicating that she was the daughter of “Raoul le Flamenc V seigneur de Cany” and his supposed first or second wife Helvide de Conflans/Jeanne de Chaumont (no source cited)[557]. Florence’s father is shown as unknown until more primary source documentation comes to light. An order of the parlement de Paris dated 26 Nov 1320 records the continuing lawsuit between “les échevins de Douai et Florence de Cauni, châtelain de Douai”, while a judgment was issued 12 Dec 1322 in favour of “[le] chevalier Jean de Landas” against “Florence, châtelaine de Douai”[558]. The necrology of Saint-Amé records the death “VII Id Feb” of “Florentia de Chauni, castellana Duac” and her donation[559]. Brassart says that she died “vers 1337” (no source cited)[560]. m GILLES [I] Châtelain de Douai, son of GAUTHIER [VI] Châtelain de Douai & his wife Jeanne de Wasquehal (-11 Mar [1320], bur Saint-Amé).

The identity of the husband of Jeanne de Chaumont is open to some debate. As noted below, Père Anselme names her as the second wife of Raoul [V][561]. From a chronological point of view, she could also have been an earlier wife of Raoul [VI] whom he married before [Eléonore]. If an earlier wife, not [Eléonore], was the mother of Raoul [VI]’s children, the potential consanguinity problem between Eléonore de Hangest and her unnamed husband (see below) would be resolved assuming, as suggested by secondary authors discussed above, that [Eléonore] was also a member of the Hangest family.

1. RAOUL le Flamenc . m JEANNE de Chaumont, daughter of --- (-1299, bur Morfontaine). Père Anselme names “Jeanne de Chaumont enterrée à Morfontaine en 1299” as the second wife of Raoul [V][562]. Her parentage has not been identified and no primary source has been found which confirms Anselme’s statement or helps identify her husband.

Identifying the unnamed husband of Eléonore de Hangest shown below represents the hub of the difficulties in reconstructing the Flamenc family during the late 13th and early 14th centuries. Père Anselme says that he was Raoul [VI] who was killed at Courtrai[563]. Considering Eléonore’s date of birth, that is the only case which is impossible. Among the actual possibilities are:

(1) He was the oldest son of Raoul [VI], who succeeded his father as seigneur de Canny. If that is correct, one would expect his name to be “Raoul”, although that would render problematic the parentage of Raoul [VII] who is shown below: one solution would be the existence of an even older son of Raoul [VI], also named Raoul, who died before the birth of Raoul [VII]. This case also triggers a potential consanguinity problem if the mother of “--- le Flamenc” was [Eléonore], the known wife of Raoul [VI], who as suggested by secondary sources quoted above may also have been a member of the Hangest family: as noted above, this problem would be resolved if Raoul [VI]’s children were born from an earlier marriage, maybe to Jeanne de Chaumont. Whether “--- le Flamenc” was seigneur de Canny is also questionable: as noted below, Père Anselme provides the only indication when he names “Eléonore de Hangest dame de Cany” in relation to the 1329 lawsuit discussed below[564]. It is not known whether Anselme noted this name and title from contemporary documentation relating to the lawsuit which he had seen, a question which can only be settled after such documentation is examined (no citation reference to those documents is given in any of the secondary sources consulted). If Anselme is incorrect, and Eléonore’s husband was not seigneur de Canny, he could have been a younger son of Raoul [V], which is case (2).

(2) He was a younger brother of Raoul [VI] who received Varesnes as his share of the family properties. This case solves the potential Hangest consanguinity problem, but would collapse if a source emerges which indicates that ownership of Varesnes was never separated from Canny.

(3) He was the same person as Raoul [VII] le Flamenc (see below), in which case Eléonore de Hangest was his second wife married after Jeanne de Chartres died and before he married Yolande d’Enghien. This case is the most straightforward of the three as it does not presume the existence of additional family members who do not feature in Père Anselme’s “traditional” Flamenc reconstruction. It would involve the same potential Hangest consanguinity problem highlighted under case (1), and it would collapse if sources emerge dating Raoul [VII]’s marriage to Yolande d’Enghien to before 1329. The main difficulty with case (3) is the apparent absence of her husband from Eléonore de Hangest’s 1329 lawsuit, which suggests that he was deceased at the time (although he could merely have been temporarily absent).

In conclusion, all three cases require further primary source information to confirm their viability. On the basis of the limited information presently available, the only safe conclusion is that Père Anselme’s reconstruction of the family is incorrect in some indefined way.

1. --- le Flamenc (-[before 1329, maybe before 1324]). No primary source has been found which names the husband of Eléonore de Hangest. His possible parentage is discussed above. [Seigneur de Varesnes: a charter dated 1314 lists “li noble et li communs des pays de Vermandois de Biauvoisis Dartois de Pontiu et de la terre de Corbye” against Philippe IV King of France, refusing to accept further alteration of money and increase in taxes, and includes “...li sires de Varennes...”[565]. The chronology suggests that the person named in this document was the person who later married Eléonore de Hangest.] His suggested date of death assumes that Eléonore de Hangest’s husband was deceased when she pleaded in her own name in the 1329 lawsuit, although as pointed out above under case (3) it is possible that he was temporarily absent at the time. m ([1315] or after) ELEONORE de Hangest, daughter of AUBERT [VI] de Hangest Seigneur de Genlis & his second wife Agnes [de Bruyères] ([1303 or after]-after 1336). Père Anselme says that Eléonore was the daughter of Aubert [VI] and that she sued (1) “la comtesse de Soissons et la dame de Barbançon” [daughters of Aubert [VI]’s second wife by her first marriage] in 1329 for the succession of “sa mère” and (2) in 1336 the bishop of Noyon[566]. Margry provides more details, recording that “Eléonore de Hangest Genlis”, whom he calls widow of “Raoul le Flamenc VI seigneur de Canny” (clearly misidentified considering his death at Courtrai in 1302), “conjointement avec Mathieu de Hangest-Hugueville son frère” sued “la Comtesse de Soissons et la Dame de Barbanson” in 1329 relating to “la succession de Dame Agnès de Bruyères leur mère”[567]. The dates of Eléonore’s birth and marriage are estimated from her parents’ marriage in Jun 1302. Père Anselme, in one of his numerous references to the lawsuit involving Eléonore, notes that her brother Mathieu’s widow “comme tutrice de ses enfans” made a follow-up claim in 1347[568]. Anselme makes no mention either of Eléonore de Hangest, or of any of her children, participating in that 1347 claim. If Mathieu’s widow acted alone at that time, it is probable that Eléonore predeceased her and that she had died childless.

No primary source has been found which confirms the parentage of Raoul [VII] le Flamenc, although the chronology suggests that he was the son of Raoul [VI].

1. RAOUL [VII] le Flamenc (-after 12 Mar [1360/61], bur Ourscamp). Seigneur de Canny: Père Anselme records that “Raoul le Flamenc VII du nom, sire de Cany” was “souverain maître d’hôtel de la reine en 1324”[569]. Père Anselme also records that “Raoul le Flamenc VII du nom, sire de Cany” sued “le chapitre de Noyon” in 1325 and “le vidame de Chartres” in 1329 and 1334 “pour le legs que sa femme lui avoit fait par son testament”[570]. Levasseur records the foundation of a chapel “au Chasteau de Varenne, proche [de] Salency” by “messire Raoul Flamen sieur de Canny” and confirmed by “Raoul Flamen son fils” by charter dated 1343[571]. Père Anselme records that he was imprisoned near Creil “avec Raoul, Jean et Aubert le Flamenc ses enfans” in 1358 “à la journée de Malconseil” and paid “dix moutons d’or” as ransom[572]. He is named in the 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.?) marriage contract of his granddaughter Jeanne de Coucy. An epitaph at Ourscamp records the burial of “Raoul fils de Flament Seigneur de Canni” who died 1360 (O.S.?)[573]. m firstly JEANNE de Chartres, daughter of --- Vidame de Chartres & his wife --- (-before 1325). Her family origin is confirmed by Père Anselme who records that “Raoul le Flamenc VII du nom, sire de Cany” sued “le chapitre de Noyon” in 1325 and “le vidame de Chartres” in 1329 and 1334 “pour le legs que sa femme lui avoit fait par son testament”[574]. The documents relating to these lawsuits have not been found so it cannot be confirmed that they specify “Jeanne” as the name of Raoul’s first wife. The primary source which confirms her parentage more precisely has not been identified. m secondly YOLANDE d’Enghien, daughter of GAUTHIER [II] Seigneur d'Enghien & his wife Yolande de Flandre (before 1310- ----, bur Ourscamp). Père Anselme records her marriage and family origin without citing any sources on which this information is based[575]. Raoul [VII] & his [first/second] wife had four children:

a) RAOUL [VIII] le Flamenc (-after 31 Aug 1387). Levasseur records the foundation of a chapel “au Chasteau de Varenne, proche [de] Salency” by “messire Raoul Flamen sieur de Canny” and confirmed by “Raoul Flamen son fils” by charter dated 1343[576]. Père Anselme records that he was imprisoned near Creil “avec Raoul, Jean et Aubert le Flamenc ses enfans” in 1358 “à la journée de Malconseil” and paid “dix moutons d’or” as ransom[577]. A judgment dated 16 Nov 1368 relates to the testament of [his niece] "defuncta Ioanna de Couciaco domicella vicecomitissa Meldensis uxor...Ioannis de Castellione scutiferi” against her executors who include “...Radulfum Flamingi dominum de Canni...”[578]. “Raoul Flament sire de Canny” reached agreement with the abbey of Noyon Saint-Barthélemy concerning rights “de justice et seigneurie de Courcelles” by charter dated 31 Aug 1387[579]. m MARIE de Nesle, daughter of GUY de Nesle Seigneur de Mello, Maréchal de France [Clermont] & his first wife Jeanne de Bruyères ([before 1350]-). Père Anselme records her marriage and parentage without citing any sources on which this information is based[580]. The absence of her descendants from sources describing the disputes regarding the Thouars inheritance (involving Guy de Nesle’s second wife Isabelle de Thouars) indicate that Marie must have been her father’s daughter by his first marriage. Raoul [VIII] & his wife had children:

i) AUBERT le Flamenc (-after 23 Jun 1437). Seigneur de Canny. Barante’s Histoire des Ducs de Bourgogne records that “Aubert le Flamenc seigneur de Canny, ancien chambellan du duc” was suspected of involvement in the murder of Louis Duc d’Orléans “[qui] avait séduit sa femme”[581]. m ([1389]) MARIE d’Enghien, daughter of JACQUES d’Enghien Seigneur d’Havré et de Fagnolle & his wife Marie de Roucy. Père Anselme names “Yoland ou Mariette d’Enghien” (“Marie d’Enghien fille de Jacques d’Enghien” in another section) as mother of Jean bâtard d’Orléans comte de Dunois, adding that she was “femme d’Aubert le Flamenc seigneur de Cany, chevalier de Picardie, petit-fils de Raoul le Flamenc maréchal de France”, but does not cite the source on which this information is based[582]. She was mistress ([1401/02]) of Louis de France Duc d’Orléans. Père Anselme names “Yoland ou Mariette d’Enghien” as mother of Jean bâtard d’Orléans comte de Dunois, adding that she was “femme d’Aubert le Flamenc seigneur de Cany, chevalier de Picardie, petit-fils de Raoul le Flamenc maréchal de France”, but does not cite the source on which this information is based[583]. Barante’s Histoire des Ducs de Bourgogne records that Louis Duc d’Orléans had seduced the wife of “Aubert le Flamenc seigneur de Canny, ancien chambellan du duc” and had a son by her[584]. Aubert & his wife had one child:

(a) JEANNE le Flamenc (-end Apr 1460). Dame de Canny et de Varesnes. “Jehan de Barbenchon sénéchal de Haynau, seigneur de Jeumont et de Varesnes et Jehanne de Cauny nostre espouze fille et héritière de feu Monseigneur Aubert, en son vivant seigneur du dict Cauny et de Varesnes” donated land to Babœuf by charter dated 22 Apr 1453[585]. An epitaph at Thure abbey records the burial of “Jehan de Barchenchon chevalier seneschal de Hainaut, baron de Verchin et de Chisoing, premier pair de Flandre...” who died 1 Aug 1470 and of “madame Jenne dame héritière de Canny, de Faignolles, de Warennes, de Quarempuet...son espeuse” who died end Apr 1460[586]. m JEAN [III] de Barbançon Seigneur de Jeumont, son of JEAN [II] de Barbançon Seigneur de Jeumont & his wife Philippotte de Werchin (-1 Aug 1470).

b) JEAN le Flamenc . Père Anselme records that he was imprisoned near Creil “avec Raoul, Jean et Aubert le Flamenc ses enfans” in 1358 “à la journée de Malconseil” and paid “dix moutons d’or” as ransom[587].

c) AUBERT le Flamenc . Père Anselme records that he was imprisoned near Creil “avec Raoul, Jean et Aubert le Flamenc ses enfans” in 1358 “à la journée de Malconseil” and paid “dix moutons d’or” as ransom[588].

d) JEANNE le Flamenc (-before 12 Mar 1361). Duchesne notes the marriage of Philippe de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux and “Jeanne de Canny fille de Raoul Flament Seigneur de Canny” recorded in letters dated 1344 and 1347 “gardées aux archives du chasteau de Varennes”, as well as her second marriage to “un chevalier...Jena de Preaux, dont n’estoit procedée qu’une fille”[589]. Her parentage and two marriages are also recorded in the marriage contract of her daughter Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.?). Margry reverses the order of her marriages without explaining the basis for his assessment[590]. m firstly (before 1344) PHILIPPE de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux, son of ENGUERRAND de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux & his first wife Maria von Vianden (-[30 Dec 1345/1350]). m secondly JEAN de Préaux, son of ---.

E. SEIGNEURS de LONGUEVAL

The Jun 1284 charter quoted below confirms that Longueval was located within the episcopal diocesis of Noyon. The town is located about five kilometres south of Bapaume and about 15 kilometres north-west of Péronne, in the present-day French département of Somme, arrondissement Péronne, canton Combles.

Two brothers:

1. JEAN de Longueval (-after 1202). Seigneur de Longueval. Goethals records that “Jean seigneur de Longueval, avoué de Thérouanne” founded anniversaries at Eaucourt abbey for himself “et son frère Guibert” by charter dated 1202[591]. Goethals records “Jean le Chien seigneur de Longueval et de Framerville” in a list of fiefs of the châtellenie de Péronne, dated to the first half of the 13th century[592].

2. GUIBERT de Longueval (-after 1202). Goethals records that “Jean seigneur de Longueval, avoué de Thérouanne” founded anniversaries at Eaucourt abbey for himself “et son frère Guibert” by charter dated 1202[593].

1. AUBERT [I] de Longueval (-after 1248). Goethals records that “Audebertus miles de Longavalle, dictus Canis” was named in a charter dated 1223[594]. Goethals records that “Aubert seigneur de Longueval, chevalier” fought at a tournament at Compiègne in 1238, was named in a charter dated 8 Jun 1240, and bought “une dîme à Longueval” from “Robert de Boileux chevalier et d’Ade sa femme” by charter dated 1248, which names “Jean son fils aîné”[595]. m ---. The name of Aubert’s wife is not known. Aubert [I] & his wife had four children:

a) JEAN de Longueval (-after 1248). Goethals records that “Aubert seigneur de Longueval, chevalier” bought “une dîme à Longueval” from “Robert de Boileux chevalier et d’Ade sa femme” by charter dated 1248, which names “Jean son fils aîné”[596].

b) GUILLAUME de Longueval (-after 1270). “Balduinus de Longavalle miles” sold “decimam de Framerivile et de Ramecort” to the chapter of Amiens, subject to the confirmation of “domini mei Willelmi de Longavalle militis fratris mei et uxorem nostrarum...et heredum meorum et magistri Ingerranni fratris mei”, naming “dominos Willelmum de Longavalle, Bernardum de Morolio primogenitum, Petrum de Jumellis milites” as fiduciaries, by charter dated 14 Jun 1262[597]. An order dated 1265 confirmed the reversion of “molendinus quem dominus Guillelmus de Longa-Valle fecit apud Harbonieres” to the king[598]. Châtelain de Péronne, bought from Jean [III] Châtelain de Lille: “Johannes castellanus Insulensis” acknowledged having sold “castellaniam Peronensem” to “domino Guillelmo de Longavalle militi”, who resold it to the king of France, and having received the sale price, by charter dated 29 Aug 1267[599]. An order dated 1269 records that “Guillelmo de Longa-Valle milite” appealed the withdrawal of “le Ham et castellaniam Peronensem”, which he had previously bought, by the king with an order that he swear homage for “feodum...de Gouincort et feodum de Anderliu”, another order dated 1270 dealing with the same issue[600].

c) BAUDOUIN de Longueval (-after 14 Jun 1262). “Balduinus de Longavalle miles” sold “decimam de Framerivile et de Ramecort” to the chapter of Amiens, subject to the confirmation of “domini mei Willelmi de Longavalle militis fratris mei et uxorem nostrarum...et heredum meorum et magistri Ingerranni fratris mei”, naming “dominos Willelmum de Longavalle, Bernardum de Morolio primogenitum, Petrum de Jumellis milites” as fiduciaries, by charter dated 14 Jun 1262[601]. m HELWIGE, daughter of --- (-after Sep 1262). “Helvidis uxoris mee et heredum meorum” ratified the sale of property to the chapter of Amiens (see above) by charter dated Sep 1262[602]. Baudouin & his wife had two children:

i) AUBERT de Longueval (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302). Kervyn de Lettenhove names “...Auberis de Longueval...” among those killed at Courtrai[603]. The Chronique Artésienne does not include Aubert in its list of those killed at Courtrai [604]. Goethals names “Aubert de Longueval, mort à la bataille de Courtrai en 1302” as son of Baudouin de Longueval, noting that he has been “souvent confondu avec l’époux de Marie de Neele”[605].

ii) BAUDOUIN de Longueval . Goethals records that “Baudouin de Longueval, écuyer fils de Baudouin” was named in an undated charter[606].

d) ENGUERRAND de Longueval (-after 26 Sep 1262). Canon at Péronne. “Balduinus de Longavalle miles” sold “decimam de Framerivile et de Ramecort” to the chapter of Amiens, subject to the confirmation of “domini mei Willelmi de Longavalle militis fratris mei et uxorem nostrarum...et heredum meorum et magistri Ingerranni fratris mei”, naming “dominos Willelmum de Longavalle, Bernardum de Morolio primogenitum, Petrum de Jumellis milites” as fiduciaries, by charter dated 14 Jun 1262[607]. “Magister Ingerranus de Longavalle canonicus Peronensis” ratified the sale of property to the chapter of Amiens (see above) by charter dated 26 Sep 1262[608].

Two brothers. Goethals names Aubert [II] as son of Guillaume de Longueval who is named above, without citing the primary source on which this information is based[609].

1. AUBERT [II] de Longueval (-killed in battle Girona [26 Jun/7 Sep] 1285). Seigneur de Longueval. Seigneur de Croissy. “Aubers chevaliers sires de Longue Val en l’eviesqué de Noyon” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” [see the Apr 1270 charter of his first wife’s father], noting that the property “meuvent en rere fié de l’airetage à mes enfanz...Jouhanne, Marote, Katerine et Agnès, filles jadis de ma famme feu Anne de Biaumont, jadis dame de Longueval”, and promising to obtain the consent of “Marie de Heli ma fame que gie ai orondroit présentement”, by charter dated Jun 1284[610]. The Anales de Navarra record “Auberto de Longavalle Cabo de grande valor” among those killed at the siege of Girona led by Philippe III King of France [siege dated to [26 Jun/7 Sep] 1285][611]. m firstly ANNE de Beaumont, daughter of THIBAUT de Beaumont [en Gâtinais] & his wife Jeanne de Senlis (-[May 1272/Apr 1274]). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the following document: “Johannes de Tilly Baiocensis dyocesis armiger et domicella Johanna de Bellomonte uxor mea, filia quondam domini Theobaldi de Bellomonte militis” exchanged property with Chaalis, promising to guarantee his contribution (which came from the dowry of his wife) against “sorores uxoris mee Johanne, Ysabellem et Annam ac virum ipsius Anne Aubertum de Longa Valle”, by charter dated May 1272[612]. Dame de Croissy. She is named as deceased in the Jun 1284 charter of her husband, which also names his second wife. m secondly ([May 1272/Apr 1274]) ANNE de Meulan, daughter of AMAURY [III] de Meulan Seigneur de la Queue-en-Brie et de Gournay-sur-Marne & his wife Marguerite de Neufboiurg (-before Nov 1281?). "Almaricus de Meullento dominus de Cauda, Guillelmus de Essartis dominus de Ambleinvilla, Gobertus de Argus dominus de Guitebuef, Albertus de Longavalle dominus de Croissiaco milites, Ysabellis predicti Guillelmi, Yda dicti Goberti, et Anna dicti Alberti uxores" confirmed rights of pasture to Notre-Dame de Gournay by charter dated Apr 1274, with another charter dated Nov 1274 relating to the same matter[613]. The Aug 1269 hearings (quoted in the document NORMANDY NOBILITY-ALENÇON, EVREUX, MEULAN, PERCHE) confirm that Ida, later wife of Gobert [I] Seigneur de Dargies, was the daughter of Amaury [III] de Meulan. It is reasonable to suppose that the same Ida, and Isabelle and Anne, all three named in the two 1274 charters, were sisters and that they held a common interest in the Meulan property the subject of the 1274 documents. It should be noted that the 1274 charters clearly relate to Meulan property, whereas the May 1272 charter quoted above relates to Beaumont-en-Gâtinais. This apparent contradiction is best resolved if Aubert [II] had two wives named Anne, as suggested here. Anne was named as deceased in her husband’s Jun 1284 charter which named his third wife. Anne may have died before Nov 1281, the date of the charter quoted in the document NORMANDY NOBILITY-ALENÇON, EVREUX, MEULAN, PERCHE which names her two brothers-in-law but not her husband. m thirdly (before Jun 1284) MARIE de Heilly, daughter of ---. “Aubers chevaliers sires de Longue Val en l’eviesqué de Noyon” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” [see the Apr 1270 charter of his first wife’s father], promising to obtain the consent of “Marie de Heli ma fame que gie ai orondroit présentement”, by charter dated Jun 1284[614]. An order dated 1287 granted half the lands held by her husband at the time of their marriage to “la veuve d’Aubert de Longueval à titre de douaire”[615]. Aubert [II] & his first wife had four children:

a) JEANNE de Longueval (-before 1305). “Aubers chevaliers sires de Longue Val en l’eviesqué de Noyon” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” [see the Apr 1270 charter of his first wife’s father], noting that the property “meuvent en rere fié de l’airetage à mes enfanz...Jouhanne, Marote, Katerine et Agnès, filles jadis de ma famme feu Anne de Biaumont, jadis dame de Longueval”, by charter dated Jun 1284[616]. "Maheus sires de Montmorency" granted "le manoir de Conflans" to "Erart son frere" on his marriage to "damoiselle Jeanne fille de monsieur Aubert de Longueval", with "messires Baudoyns de Guines, messires Maheus de Trie et messire Jehans de Danisy" acting as sureties, by charter dated Jun 1286[617]. “Erars de Montmorenci chevalier sires de Conflans en la terre de Montmorenci et Jahanne fame dudit mesire Erat, jadis fille monseigneur Aubert de Longueval chevalier” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” made by “feu Aubert pour le fief de Pierre de Courcelles sis à Vémars, mouvant de l’éritage madame Anne première femme dudit mons. Aubert et mère de nous Jahanne desus dite”, by charter dated Dec 1286[618]. "Monsieur Erart de Montmorency sire de Conflans et de Croissy chevalier et madame Jeanne sa femme" sold ¼ "en toute la terre de saint Marcel de saint Denys" to "Monsieur Mahy sires de Montmorency et...madame Jeanne sa femme" by charter dated Jul 1290[619]. A judgment dated 1293 ordered “Erard de Montmorency et sa femme” to deliver “la saisine de la maison de Ham (de Hamo) dont son père était en possession” to “damoiselle Catherine de Longueval baillistre de son frère”[620]. Her date of death is not known, but her husband’s second marriage is dated to [1305]. m ([Jun] 1286) as his first wife, ERARD de Montmorency Seigneur de Conflans, son of MATHIEU [III] Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Jeanne de Brienne (-before 1332).

b) MAROTTE de Longueval (-after Jun 1284). “Aubers chevaliers sires de Longue Val en l’eviesqué de Noyon” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” [see the Apr 1270 charter of his first wife’s father], noting that the property “meuvent en rere fié de l’airetage à mes enfanz...Jouhanne, Marote, Katerine et Agnès, filles jadis de ma famme feu Anne de Biaumont, jadis dame de Longueval”, by charter dated Jun 1284[621].

c) CATHERINE de Longueval (-after 3 Feb 1310). “Aubers chevaliers sires de Longue Val en l’eviesqué de Noyon” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” [see the Apr 1270 charter of his first wife’s father], noting that the property “meuvent en rere fié de l’airetage à mes enfanz...Jouhanne, Marote, Katerine et Agnès, filles jadis de ma famme feu Anne de Biaumont, jadis dame de Longueval”, by charter dated Jun 1284[622]. A judgment dated 1293 ordered “Erard de Montmorency et sa femme” to deliver “la saisine de la maison de Ham (de Hamo) dont son père était en possession” to “damoiselle Catherine de Longueval baillistre de son frère”[623]. A charter dated 1295 records the dispute between “dominam de Basentin” and “castellanum et castellanum de Bello-Meso et Katerinam de Longa-Valle, tenentem ballum heredis de Longa-Valle” relating to “terram de Longa-Valle in manu nostra”, relating to payments agreed by “Guillelmo de Longa-Valle quondam patre suo” and approved by “Alberto de Longa-Valle quondam fratre suo”[624]. An order dated 1298 confirmed that money should remain in the hands of the king until “la dame de Basentin” identified land to buy and that, at that time, the purchase could be challenged if insufficient by “l’héritier de Longueval”[625]. A judgment dated 3 Feb 1310 denied the claim by “Jeanne de Longueval dame de Bazantin (de Basantin)” for payment “pro avisamennto seu maritagio suo” promised by “Guillaume de Longueval père de ladite Jeanne” against “Catherine de Longueval fille de feu Aubert de Longueval et tutrice de son frère Aubert”, on the basis that “ladite Jeanne” had renounced the payment under an agreement with “ladite Catherine et Robert de Biaumes”[626].

d) AGNES de Longueval (-after Jun 1284). “Aubers chevaliers sires de Longue Val en l’eviesqué de Noyon” confirmed the mortgage of property “sis à Vémars” [see the Apr 1270 charter of his first wife’s father], noting that the property “meuvent en rere fié de l’airetage à mes enfanz...Jouhanne, Marote, Katerine et Agnès, filles jadis de ma famme feu Anne de Biaumont, jadis dame de Longueval”, by charter dated Jun 1284[627].

Aubert [II] & his [third?] wife had one child:

e) AUBERT [III] de Longueval ([Jun 1284/1285?]-after 6 Feb 1321). The Jun 1284 charter quoted above shows that Aubert [III] did not share the same mother as his four sisters. It is possible that he was born at the end of his father’s life, maybe to his father’s third marriage. The following document confirms that Aubert was under the guardianship of his sister Catherine. A judgment dated 1293 ordered “Erard de Montmorency et sa femme” to deliver “la saisine de la maison de Ham (de Hamo) dont son père était en possession” to “damoiselle Catherine de Longueval baillistre de son frère”[628].

- see below.

2. GUILLAUME de Longueval (-before 1295). His family relationship is recorded in the 1295 charter quoted below. He is named as deceased in the 1295 charter quoted below. m ---. The primary source which identifies the name of Guillaume’s wife has not been identified. Guillaume & his wife had one child:

a) JEANNE de Longueval (-after 3 Feb 1310). A charter dated 1295 records the dispute between “dominam de Basentin” and “castellanum et castellanum de Bello-Meso et Katerinam de Longa-Valle, tenentem ballum heredis de Longa-Valle” relating to “terram de Longa-Valle in manu nostra”, relating to payments agreed by “Guillelmo de Longa-Valle quondam patre suo” and approved by “Alberto de Longa-Valle quondam fratre suo”[629]. A judgment dated 3 Feb 1310 denied the claim by “Jeanne de Longueval dame de Bazantin (de Basantin)” for payment “pro avisamennto seu maritagio suo” promised by “Guillaume de Longueval père de ladite Jeanne” against “Catherine de Longueval fille de feu Aubert de Longueval et tutrice de son frère Aubert”, on the basis that “ladite Jeanne” had renounced the payment under an agreement with “ladite Catherine et Robert de Biaumes”[630]. m --- Seigneur de Basentin, son of --- (-before 1295).

AUBERT [III] de Longueval, son of AUBERT [II] Seigneur de Longueval & his [third wife Marie de Heilly] ([Jun 1284/1285?]-after 6 Feb 1321). The Jun 1284 charter quoted above shows that Aubert [III] did not share the same mother as his four sisters. It is possible that he was born at the end of his father’s life, maybe to his father’s third marriage. The following document confirms that Aubert was under the guardianship of his sister Catherine. A judgment dated 1293 ordered “Erard de Montmorency et sa femme” to deliver “la saisine de la maison de Ham (de Hamo) dont son père était en possession” to “damoiselle Catherine de Longueval baillistre de son frère”[631]. The following document confirms that Aubert was under the guardianship of his sister Catherine. The date of death of their father suggests that Aubert [III] would no longer have been a minor at the time of the following document, although the 1295 charter quoted above indicates that the lawsuit had lasted many years. A judgment dated 3 Feb 1310 denied the claim by “Jeanne de Longueval dame de Bazantin (de Basantin)” for payment “pro avisamennto seu maritagio suo” promised by “Guillaume de Longueval père de ladite Jeanne” against “Catherine de Longueval fille de feu Aubert de Longueval et tutrice de son frère Aubert”, on the basis that “ladite Jeanne” had renounced the payment under an agreement with “ladite Catherine et Robert de Biaumes”[632]. An order dated 6 Feb 1321 punished infractions of the peace between “Aubert de Longueval” and “Jean de Vaux”, after “Jean de Sorel chevalier, Guillaume et Simon de Laingnicourt frères écuyers, cousins d’Aubert” had mortally wounded “Le Moine de Haplaincourt écuyer”[633].

m [(after [1310/11]) as her second husband, MARIE de Nesle Dame de Warcq et de Gernomont, widow of JEAN de Looz Seigneur d’Agimont, daughter of JEAN [II] de Nesle Seigneur de Falvy & his wife Marie van Oudenaarde (-after 1328). According to Goethals, Aubert [III] de Longueval married “Marie de Neelle, fille de Jean de Neelle seigneur de Faluy et de Herelle et de Mari d’Audenarde [qui] venait de perdre son mari Jean de Los seigneur d’Agimont [mort] en Italie en 1310” and by her had three children[634]. The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified. From a chronological point of view, it appears possible so long as Marie was one of her parents’ younger children.]

Aubert [III] & his wife had children:

1. JEAN [I] de Longueval (-after 26 May 1377). Goethals names Jean as son of Aubert [III] de Longueval and his wife without citing the source on which this information is based[635]. “Jehan Sire de Longueval et...Jeanne de Baumer fille et principal her de feu...Thomas de Beaumer sa femme" sold property in Brittany (“la ville...de Kemeneguegant...Roche-periou...”) to Jean Vicomte de Rohan, saving rights of “la Dame de Noyere suer et jouveigneure de ladite Dame de Longueval”, by charter dated 26 May 1377[636]. m firstly MARGUERITE de Mortagne Vrouw van Nevele, daughter of ROBERT de Mortagne Heer van Nevele & his wife --- (-before 23 Aug 1335). Goethals records a charter dated 23 Aug 1335 which names “Joannes de Longavalle miles, ratione ballii terræ de Nivelle, ad Margaretam filiam suam, minorem annis, ex successione Margaretæ matris suæ, uxoris quondam dicti militis”[637]. m secondly ALIX de Beaumetz, daughter of THOMAS de Beaumetz & his wife --- (-after 26 May 1377). “Jehan Sire de Longueval et...Jeanne de Baumer fille et principal her de feu...Thomas de Beaumer sa femme" sold property in Brittany (“la ville...de Kemeneguegant...Roche-periou...”) to Jean Vicomte de Rohan, saving rights of “la Dame de Noyere suer et jouveigneure de ladite Dame de Longueval”, by charter dated 26 May 1377[638]. Jean [I] & his first wife had one child:

a) MARGUERITE de Longueval (-before 17 Apr 1369). Vrouw van Nevele. Goethals records a charter dated 23 Aug 1335 which names “Joannes de Longavalle miles, ratione ballii terræ de Nivelle, ad Margaretam filiam suam, minorem annis, ex successione Margaretæ matris suæ, uxoris quondam dicti militis”[639]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the following documents: firstly, a charter dated 2 Aug 1344 names “Jan van Gavere heer van Aieshove en Nevele”[640]. Secondly, a charter dated 15 Mar 1349 (O.S.?) names “Jan van Gavere rudder here van Aishove, heer van Nevele...burggraaf van Kortijk” and “Margriete van Longevael vrouwe van Nevele sin wettelike gheselnede”[641]. Goethals is sceptical about this first marriage because he incorrectly identifies her first husband as Jan [II] van Gavre who died 10 Oct 1333[642]. A charter dated 12 Jul 1354 records the marriage of “nobilis vir Johannes de Ghistella miles dominus de Wastina” and “nobilis mulier Margaretha de Longueval domina de Nivella”[643]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the following documents: A charter dated Jun 1254 records the dispensation for the marriage obtained by “Jean de Ghistelle seigneur de Woestine et Marguerite de Longueval”[644]. Louis Count of Flanders instructed “le bailli de Bruges” to receive an “acte de déshéritance...du schouteldomme de Courtrai...[et de] Neveldriesch dans la dite ville” from “Marguerite de Longueval dame de Nevele, assistée de son époux et bail Jean de Ghistelles seigneur de la Woestine” by charter dated 6 Jul 1358[645]. Goethals (unaware of the 6 Jul 1358 document) is sceptical about Marguerite’s second marriage to “Jean de Ghistelles seigneur de la Woestyne”, commenting that he had found “aucun titre pour en faire la preuve”, and observes that “le chanoine Hellin semble être exact” in suggesting that she married firstly [in reality thirdly] “Jean sire de Fosseux, de Visme, chevalier, gouverneur des pays et comté d’Artois, qui devint par ce mariage seigneur de Nevele”. In fact, Jean de Fosseux married the daughter of Nicolas de Bailleul Seigneur de Ronsoit and his wife Mathilde van Gavre (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY), and acquired his rights to Nevele by virtue of his wife’s descent from Mathilde after Marguerite died (see the 17 Apr 1369 charter quoted below). A charter dated 9 Jul 1365 records that “minheer Jan van de Woestine heer van Nevele” sold a house in Gent[646]. The contract for her third marriage is dated 27 May 1366[647]. A charter dated 17 Apr 1369 of “heer Inghelbrecht van Edinghen” records “de versterfte van Margriete van Longueval de vrouwe van Nevele sin wettelike wive was” and his agreement with “Jan van Fosseux (gehuwd met de nieuwe dame van Nevele)” concerning rights at Nevele[648]. m firstly (before 2 Aug 1344) JAN van Gavre Seigneur d’Aischove, son of RASO van Gavre Seigneur d’Hérimez & his wife --- Vrouw van Aischove (-[15 Mar 1350/Jun 1354]). m secondly (Papal dispensation [Jun] 1354, 12 Jul 1354) [as his second wife,] JAN van Gistel Heer van der Woestijne, son of GERARD van Gistel Heer van der Woestijne & [his [first] wife Catherine de Tronchiennes] (-[9 Jul 1365/Apr 1366]). m thirdly (contract 27 May 1366) as his first wife, ENGELBERT [I] d’Enghien Seigneur de Ramerupt, son of GAUTHIER [III] Seigneur d'Enghien & his wife Isabelle de Brienne ([1330]-20 Feb 1403).

Jean [I] & his second wife had children:

b) JEAN [II] de Longueval (-after 15 Apr 1409). Goethals records his parentage without citing the source on which this information is based[649].

- SEIGNEURS de LONGUEVAL[650].

F. SEIGNEURS de NESLE, COMTES de NESLE

Nesle is situated about 10 kilometres north-east of Roye, in the present-day French département of Somme, arrondissement Péronne, canton Nesle. Ives [II] Seigneur de Nesle, son of Raoul [I] Seigneur de Nesle who is shown below, succeeded as Comte de Soissons after the death of the last male member of the previous comital family, as senior descendant of Guillaume Comte de Soissons through the female line (see the document NORTHERN FRANCE - LAON, COUCY, ROUCY, SOISSONS). Nesle was eventually inherited by Gertrude, daughter of Jean [I] de Nesle Châtelain de Bruges, who married Raoul de Clermont Seigneur d’Ailly (see PARIS REGION - CLERMONT & DAMMARTIN). After the death in 1302 of Raoul [III] de Clermont, Nesle was inherited by his daughter Alix, wife of Guillaume de Flandre Heer van Dendermonde (see FLANDERS COUNTS). Nesle passed to their granddaughter Marie, wife of Ingelger [I] Seigneur d’Amboise (CENTRAL FRANCE - BLOIS, TOURS) and to her daughter Marguerite who married Pierre [III] de Sainte-Maure Seigneur de Montgaugier (see below). Nesle was raised to comital status in 1466 by Louis XI King of France.

1. IVES de Nesle, son of --- (-after 1076). “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1076 under which “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus”[651]. m --- de Soissons, daughter of GUILLAUME Comte de Soissons & his wife Adela Ctss de Soissons. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem, horum soror Yvoni de Nigella" gave birth to "comitem Radulfum"[652]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that one daughter (unnamed) married "Ivoni de Neella" by whom she had "Radulfum eiusdem castri dominum. Radulfus genuit Yvonem comitem Suessionis et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum Cameracensem archidiaconum"[653]. Ives & his wife had [two] children:

a) RAOUL [I] de Nesle (-1125 or after). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Radulfam" as son of "Yvoni de Nigella" & his wife[654]. Seigneur de Nesle. m RAINURDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified. 1115. Raoul [I] & his wife had five children:

- COMTES de SOISSONS.

b) [DREUX de Nesle (-after 1098). Albert of Aix names "…Drogo de Nahella…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[655]. It is not known how Dreux was related to the Nesle family but it is reasonable to suppose that he was a younger son of Ives de Nesle.]

The following reconstruction of this family is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking to other families studied in Medieval Lands. The information has not been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated.

PIERRE [III] de Sainte-Maure, son of PIERRE [II] de Sainte-Maure Seigneur de Montgauger & his wife --- (-after 10 Sep 1372). Seigneur de Montgaugier.

[m firstly ISABELLE de Precigny [Pressigny?] Dame de Laleu et de Lommeau, daughter of GUILLAUME de Precigny [Pressigny?] Seigneur de Laleu et de Lommeau [near La Rochelle] & his wife ---. Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, assuming that she was the first wife of Pierre [II] de Saint-Maure and commenting that she died childless[656]. The chronology of this person, who has not otherwise been traced, has not been ascertained. It is not possible therefore to identify Pierre [II] or Pierre [III] as her husband.]

m [secondly] MARGUERITE d’Amboise Dame de Nesle-en-Picardie, daughter of INGELGER [I] Seigneur d’Amboise & his first wife Marie de Flandre. Dame de Nesle-en-Picardie, inherited from her mother.

Pierre [III] & his [second] wife had children:

1. JEAN [I] de Sainte-Maure (-[1423/25]). Seigneur de Montgaugier. Seigneur de Nesle. Comte de Benaon. m JEANNE des Roches Dame de Beaupreau et de la Haye Joulain [en Anjou], daughter of JEAN Seigneur des Roches & his wife Jeanne de Beaupreau. Jean [I] & his wife had children:

a) JEAN [II] de Sainte-Maure (-before 1463). Comte de Benaon, Seigneur de Nesle et de Montgaugier. m firstly JACQUETTE de Puiseuls, daughter of ---. m secondly (1444) LOUISE de Rochechouart, daughter of JEAN de Rochechouart Seigneur de Mortemart & his first wife Jeanne de Turpin (-after 26 Feb 1489). Jean [II] & his first wife had children:

i) CHARLES de Sainte-Maure (-[7 Dec 1484/Aug 1485]). Seigneur de Puiseuls. Comte de Nesle 1466. m (contract 26 Sep 1457) MADELEINE de Luxembourg, daughter of THIBAUT de Luxembourg Seigneur de Fiennes & his wife Philippotte de Melun (-after 1498). [She married secondly (15 Sep 1485) Jacques Chabot Seigneur d'Apremont et de Brion.] [Père Anselme says that Charles married secondly Catherine d’Estouteville Dame de Cuverville, de Quierley, de Lamerville et de Formerie, daughter of Robert d’Estouteville Seigneur d’Aussebosc & his wife Madeleine de Sainte-Beuve. This appears incompatible with the second marriage of Charles’s wife Madeleine de Luxembourg, unless he divorced her. Presumably either Madeleine’s second marriage or Charles’s second marriage is incorrect.] Charles & his wife had children:

(a) ADRIEN de Sainte-Maure (-4 Aug 1504). Comte de Nesle, Seigneur de Montgaugier.

- see below.

b) CHARLOTTE de Sainte-Maure (-30 Aug 1485, bur Benais). Dame de la Faigne. m GUY [II] de Laval Seigneur de Loué, de Benais et de Montsabert, son of THIBAUT de Laval Seigneur de Loué et de Saint-Aubin & his wife Jeanne de Maillé.

2. MARGUERITE de Saint-Maure . m ([1386]) GUILLAUME d’Orgemont Seigneur de Méry-sur-Oise, de Mériel et de Fallouel, son of PIERRE d’Orgemont Seigneur de Méry et de Chantilly, Chancelier de France & his wife Marguerite de Voisines.

ADRIEN de Sainte-Maure, son of CHARLES de Sainte-Maure Comte de Nesle & his wife [Madeleine de Luxembourg] (-4 Aug 1504). Comte de Nesle, Seigneur de Montgaugier. Comte de Joigny, de iure uxoris.

m ([9 Sep 1480]) as her first husband, CHARLOTTE de Chalon Ctss de Joigny, daughter of CHARLES de Chalon Comte de Joigny & his wife Jeanne de Banquetin (-after 24 Oct 1525). She married secondly (1507) François de Tourzel Seigneur de Precy.

Adrien & his wife had children:

1. JEAN [III] de Sainte-Maure (-before 1526). Comte de Nesle.

- COMTES de NESLE, COMTES de JOIGNY[657].

G. CHÂTELAINS de NOYON, SEIGNEURS de THOUROTTE

1. GAUTHIER [de Thourotte] . m ---. Gauthier & his wife had one child:

a) ALEAUME [de Thourotte] (-after 1034). “...Alelmi filii Walteri de Tarota...” subscribed the charter dated 1034 under which "Theobaldus et Stephanus germanus meus...comites Francia et Ermengardis comitissa mater noster" confirmed property "in pago Ambianensi...Crisciacum" to the church of Amiens[658].

1. LUCIE de Thourotte (-after Mar 1097). Gauthier Bishop of Cambrai notified that “miles...Hugo dictus Sohierus dominus...in patria nostra” had confirmed donations to Cambrai made by “Soichiero dicto Rufo de Viromandia patre eius”, with the consent of “Luciæ de Torota uxoris eius et filiorum Walteri et Thiobaldi”, by charter dated Mar 1097[659]. m HUGUES dit Sohier, son of SOHIER dit Rufus & his wife --- (-after Mar 1097).

2. GUASCE de Thourotte (-after Dec 1120). Barthélemy Bishop of Cambrai confirmed the donation of “alodium de S. Germano, villas de Paciis, de Estrea” made to Famy abbey by “Guidone de Guisia consanguineo nostro” with the consent of “uxoris suæ Aeluidis quæ vulgo Machania dicitur”, by charter dated Dec 1120, in the presence of “Gerardi de S. Auberto...Guasconis de Thorota, Petri de Malovicino...”[660].

1. --- . m ADELAIDE, daughter of ---. Her family origin is indicated by the charter dated 1119 which records donations of “partem...apud Lacheni” made to Saint-Amand by “Fulconem, Ingrammi filium...et dominam Adelaidem ipsuis sororem” and “Hugo...Calniacensis et Warnerus eius frater”, the later donation made by “dominus Rogerus eorum nepos”, and the subsequent dispute and settlement by the council of Beauvais[661]. "Adeladix mater domini Rogeri Thorotensis" donated “tertiam partem alodii sui...Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “eiusdem filii sui et conjugis eius Adeguidis”, by charter dated 1124[662]. A charter dated 1124 records donations made to Saint-Amand including the donation of “terciam partem alodii...Laceni” made by “Adeladix mater domni Rogeri Thorotensis assensu eiusdem filii sui et conjugis eius Hadeguidis”[663]. One child:

a) ROGER (-before [1140]). A charter dated 1119 records donations “partem...apud Lacheni” made to Saint-Amand by “Fulconem, Ingrammi filium...et dominam Adelaidem ipsuis sororem” and “Hugo...Calniacensis et Warnerus eius frater”, the later donation made by “dominus Rogerus eorum nepos”, and the subsequent dispute and settlement by the council of Beauvais[664]. "Adeladix mater domini Rogeri Thorotensis" donated “tertiam partem alodii sui...Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “eiusdem filii sui et conjugis eius Adeguidis”, by charter dated 1124[665]. A charter dated 1124 records donations made to Saint-Amand including the donation of “terciam partem alodii...Laceni” made by “Adeladix mater domni Rogeri Thorotensis assensu eiusdem filii sui et conjugis eius Hadeguidis”[666]. "...Rogeri de Thorota" subscribed the charter dated to [1137] under which Louis VI King of France confirmed property of Ourscamp Notre-Dame[667]. m HAVIDE, daughter of ---. "Adeladix mater domini Rogeri Thorotensis" donated “tertiam partem alodii sui...Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “eiusdem filii sui et conjugis eius Adeguidis”, by charter dated 1124[668]. A charter dated 1124 records donations made to Saint-Amand including the donation of “terciam partem alodii...Laceni” made by “Adeladix mater domni Rogeri Thorotensis assensu eiusdem filii sui et conjugis eius Hadeguidis”[669]. "Gerardus de Thorota cognomine Niatel" donated property “de feodo domine Havidis de Thorota...apud sanctum Petrum...in territorio Bitriaci” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated to [1140][670].

1. GUY de Thourotte (-after 1156). "Guido castellanus Noviomi" donated property “de suo dominico Le Bus...in territorio de Nancel” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated 1142[671]. "Guido Noviomensis castellanus" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, on returning from pilgrimage to Santiago “cum tribus filiis suis Johanne...Guidone et Ivone”, by charter dated 1156[672]. m ---. The name of Guy’s wife is not known. Guy & his wife had six children:

a) JEAN [I] (-[1176/77]). "Guido Noviomensis castellanus" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, on returning from pilgrimage to Santiago “cum tribus filiis suis Johanne...Guidone et Ivone”, by charter dated 1156[673]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[674]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomensis atque Thorotensis” approved an exchange of property between “Petrus Sarcellus...” and Saint-Amand by charter dated 1173[675]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[676]. It is unclear why the father of Jean [II] de Thourotte is named “Jean de Coucy” in this document. m ([1170]) as her third husband, ALIX de Dreux, widow firstly of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil and secondly of GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[677]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[678]. She married fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons. Jean [I] & his wife had two children:

i) GUY . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband[679].

ii) JEAN [II] (-[27 Dec 1235/25 Aug 1237]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[680]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[681].

- see below.

b) GUY (-before 1170). "Guido Noviomensis castellanus" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, on returning from pilgrimage to Santiago “cum tribus filiis suis Johanne...Guidone et Ivone”, by charter dated 1156[682]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[683].

c) IVES (-after 1170). "Guido Noviomensis castellanus" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, on returning from pilgrimage to Santiago “cum tribus filiis suis Johanne...Guidone et Ivone”, by charter dated 1156[684]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[685].

d) RENAUD (-after 1170). “Rainaldus frater Johannis castellani et Maria uxor eius” consented to the donation to Héronval made by “Robertus de Apelli...” by charter dated 1169[686]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[687]. m MARIE, daughter of ---. “Rainaldus frater Johannis castellani et Maria uxor eius” consented to the donation to Héronval made by “Robertus de Apelli...” by charter dated 1169[688].

e) ROBERT (-after 1170). A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[689].

f) PIERRE (-after 1170). A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[690].

JEAN [II] de Thourotte, son of JEAN [I] de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-[27 Dec 1235/25 Aug 1237]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[691]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra" (although the chronology suggests that this second reference is incorrect)[692]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[693]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[694]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated “censum...prop prato leprosorum de Trachi” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odothe uxoris mee et Guidonis primogeniti nostri”, by charter dated 1205[695]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorothe...et Odota uxor mea” donated property “in territorio de Behericourt” to Héronval by charter dated 1206[696]. “Johannes Noviomensis et Thorotensis castellanus” relinquished various rights in favour of Saint-Amand, with the consent of “Odote uxoris mee”, by charter dated 1207[697]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[698]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[699]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote...Guidoni primogenito meo...cum sorore sau D---" donated “nemoris...inter vivaria Ursicampi et villam de Trachi in Esga silva...et fratri meo R ---- Laudunensi episcopo” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1217[700]. "J. castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, and committed “Willelmus filius meus” to confirm the donation, by charter dated 1224[701]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" confirmed the donation of “x modiis nemoris sitis inter Noviomum de Behericort juxta nemus Milonis” made to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by “Guido de Thorota quondam primus filius meus”, by charter dated 1229[702]. The testament of “Johannes castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote”, dated 27 Dec 1235, appointed as executors “Viridunensis Lingonensis Epos filios meos...”[703].

m ODETTE de Dampierre, daughter of GUILLAUME [I] Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube & his [first] wife Ermengarde --- (-1212). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili peperit Mariam uxor Ingelranni de Coci" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[704]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[705]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[706]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated “censum...prop prato leprosorum de Trachi” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odothe uxoris mee et Guidonis primogeniti nostri”, by charter dated 1205[707]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorothe...et Odota uxor mea” donated property “in territorio de Behericourt” to Héronval by charter dated 1206[708]. “Johannes Noviomensis et Thorotensis castellanus” relinquished various rights in favour of Saint-Amand, with the consent of “Odote uxoris mee”, by charter dated 1207[709]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[710].

Jean [II] & his wife had nine children:

1. GUY (-1221). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[711]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[712]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated “censum...prop prato leprosorum de Trachi” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odothe uxoris mee et Guidonis primogeniti nostri”, by charter dated 1205[713]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[714]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[715]. "Guido domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote primogenitus...quam uxor mea" sold “nemus...in Esga silva” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, donated by “bone memorie Roberti episcopi Laudenensis patrui mei”, by charter dated 1217[716]. "Guido de Thorota primogenitus Domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated “plantam meam de Behericourt juxta nemus Milonis” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “J--- castellano patre meo et fratribus meis Johanne de Thorota et Willelmo et Walchero”, by charter dated May 1221[717]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" confirmed the donation of “x modiis nemoris sitis inter Noviomum de Behericort juxta nemus Milonis” made to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by “Guido de Thorota quondam primus filius meus”, by charter dated 1229[718]. m as her first husband, DENISE de Mello, daughter of RENAUD de Mello & his wife Gertrude de Nesle. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote...Guidoni primogenito meo...cum sorore [error for uxore] sua D---" donated “nemoris...inter vivaria Ursicampi et villam de Trachi in Esga silva...et fratri meo R ---- Laudunensi episcopo” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1217[719]. A charter dated 1217 confirmed the donation made by "Johannes castellanus Noviomi...Guido dicti castellani primogenitus cum uxore sua Dyonisia" of “nemoris in Esga silva” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1217[720]. She married secondly (1222) Robert de la Tournelle. The Feoda Campanie dated [1228] includes “...relicte Guidonis de Thoreta…” in Submonitio Retrobanni[721].

2. GUILLAUME de Thourotte (-after Dec 1224). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[722].

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3. JEAN [III] de Thourotte (-[Sep 1260/May 1266]). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[723]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[724]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[725]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[726]. "Guido de Thorota primogenitus Domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated “plantam meam de Behericourt juxta nemus Milonis” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “J--- castellano patre meo et fratribus meis Johanne de Thorota et Willelmo et Walchero”, by charter dated May 1221[727]. Seigneur de Beaufort: Pope Innocent IV communicated a complaint to the comte de Champagne from "[Jean] comte de Rethel" against “Jean de Thourotte bailli dudit Th. de Champagne” for the dissolution of his marriage to “Marie fille dudit Jean de Thourotte”, claiming that the latter had captured “[le] château de Beaufort [Montmorency], qui appartient au comte de Rethel”, by charter dated 1 Oct 1249[728]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote" confirmed the donation made by “bone memorie pater meus Johannes quondam castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Feb 1250[729]. "Jehans chastelain de Noyon et de Thorote" confirmed the donation to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by “Gauchiers de Thorote mes freres” by charter dated Aug 1255[730]. "Jehans chastelains de Noion et de Torote" confirmed the donation to Chapelle-aux-Planches made by "Jehans de Torote sire de Biaufort mes frex...a la fin de sa vie" by charter dated Apr 1258[731]. “Johannes Noviomensis et Thorote castellanus” confirmed the donation of property to Héronval by charter dated Aug 1260[732]. m ---. The primary source which confirms the name of Jean’s wife has not been identified. Guynemer names her “Luce de Honnecourt..1240..” in a genealogical table (no source citation)[733]. Jean [III] & his wife had four children:

a) JEAN de Thourotte (-[Jun 1253/Apr 1257]). "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[734]. Seigneur de Beaufort. m FELICITE de Rethel, daughter of MANASSES [IV] Comte de Rethel & his wife Isabelle --- (-after Apr 1257). The marriage contract between "Jean de Tourotte le jeune chevalier" and "Manassès de Rethel…sa fille Félicité" is dated 15 Oct 1252[735]. A charter dated Apr 1257 records an agreement between "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Torotte" and "Félicité dame de Beaufort veuve du fils dudit Jean" concerning her renunciation of claims to his property and that of "de feu Agnès sa femme"[736]. Jean & his wife had [one possible child]:

i) [RION de Toureste [Thourotte?] (-[1274/75]). Seigneur du Châtelet. Seigneur de Saint-Loup en Bois, de Sainte-Cécile, de Fontenoille, et de Chassepierre, de iure uxoris: “Rions de Toureste chevaliers sieres don [dou] Chasteleiz et don [dou] Sainct Lieu, de Saincte Seziele, de Fonteneles, de Chassepiers et...Katherine sa femme dame de ce mesme lieu” freed “la ville de Chassepier...à la loy de Beaulmont...c’est à dire Chassepier, Lays, le Mesnil et Aussy...en tèle manière...comme li home mon seignr Jehan Lardenois [Jean de Trazegnies “l’Ardenois” seigneur de Florenville, see above] et li Ostelet [Oste de Trazegnies seigneur de Mortehan, see below] en ont...” by charter dated 19 Mar 1273 (O.S.)[737]. Thierry d’Orjo suggests that “le Châtelet” was Le Châtelet-sur-Retourne {département Ardennes, arrondissement Rethel}, as Le Châtelet-sur-Sormonne {arrondissement Charleville-Mézières} was held at that time by the Montcornet family[738]. Rion’s parentage is suggested by his maternal great-uncle Jean de Rethel holding the same Le Châtelet in 1240 ("Hues cuens de Rethel" acknowledged that "Jehans mes freires, sires dou Chateleir" was vassal of "Thiebaut de Bar lou fil loi conte Henri et de sa meire Phelpe" for "lou moulin de Barigneicourt" by charter dated 9 Sep 1240[739]) and Rion’s maternal grandfather holding the same property in 1251 (a charter dated 15 Jul 1251 records an agreement between "Gaucher de Rethel sire de Raucourt" and "Manassès de Rethel sire du Châtelier" concerning the inheritance "du comte Jean de Rethel"[740]), combined with the similarity between “Toureste” (in the 19 Mar 1273 (O.S.) charter) and Thourotte. Unfortunately no other document has yet been found in which Rion is named. The suggested date of his wife’s second marriage suggests that Rion died soon after their marriage, after which his territories presumably reverted to his mother’s Rethel family. m ([5 Jun 1270/19 Mar 1274]) as her first husband, CATHERINE ---, daughter of [--- de Trazegnies & his wife --- de Saint-Loup au Bois] ([1255/60]-before Jun 1293). She married secondly 1275/78]?) Jean de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins. See the document HAINAUT for a full discussion about her parentage and two marriages.]

b) MARIE de Thourotte (-[1253/Mar 1256]). The marriage contract between "Jean de Rethel" and "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Tourotte…sa fille Marie, veuve de Jean de la Tournelle" is dated 7 Feb 1243[741]. The following document shows the couple’s marital difficulties: Pope Innocent IV communicated a complaint to the comte de Champagne from "[Jean] comte de Rethel" against “Jean de Thourotte bailli dudit Th. de Champagne” for the dissolution of his marriage to “Marie fille dudit Jean de Thourotte”, claiming that the latter had captured “[le] château de Beaufort [Montmorency], qui appartient au comte de Rethel”, by charter dated 1 Oct 1249[742]. "Marie dite comtesse de Rethel et dame d’Omont, veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" confirmed that "Gaucher comte de Rethel" recognised her dower rights in "le château d’Omont" by charter dated Oct 1251[743]. "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[744]. m firstly JEAN de la Tournelle, son of --- (-before 1243). m secondly (contract 7 Feb 1243) as his second wife, JEAN Comte de Rethel, son of HUGUES [II] Comte de Rethel & his wife Félicité de Broyes dame de Beaufort (-[2 Apr/15 Jul] 1251). He succeeded his brother in 1243 as Comte de Rethel.

c) GAUCHER (-[1 Jun 1292/Mar 1293]). “Gaucherus de Thorota Hunocurtensis dominus” confirmed the donation of property to Héronval made by “dominus et pater meus...Johannes Noviomi et Thorote castellanus” by charter dated Sep 1260[745]. Châtelain de Noyon et de Thourotte. “Gauchiers de Thorote castelain de Noion et de Thorote et...Biatris femme au-devant dit Gauchier” donated property to Héronval by charter dated May 1266[746]. “Galcerus miles Noviami et Thorote castellanus”, wishing to leave on crusade, sold property in “nemoris de Bertimont...[et] in parrochia de Machemont” to Saint-Martin by charter dated Mar 1270[747]. "Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the soul of “monseigneur Robert mon frere chanoine de Rains”, by charter dated Oct 1272[748]. "Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the souls of “mes deus femmes que jai eues...Biatris de Honnecourt et Marie de Vervin”, by charter dated Jul 1281[749]. “Gaucher châtelain de Noyon et de Thorote chevalier” notified that he and “Marie de Coucy jadis sa femme” had donated revenue from Braye to Foigny for their anniversaries by charter dated Aug 1281[750]. m firstly BEATRIX de Honnecourt, daughter of ---. “Gauchiers de Thorote castelain de Noion et de Thorote et...Biatris femme au-devant dit Gauchier” donated property to Héronval by charter dated May 1266[751]. "Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the souls of “mes deus femmes que jai eues...Biatris de Honnecourt et Marie de Vervin”, by charter dated Jul 1281[752]. m secondly MARIE de Coucy, daughter of THOMAS de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins et de Fontaines & his second wife Marguerite de Picquigny (-before Jul 1281). The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…Thomæ Maria" married "domino Galtero de Torota"[753]. The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy le second" married “Gaucher de Torote” and had two daughters[754]. "Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the souls of “mes deus femmes que jai eues...Biatris de Honnecourt et Marie de Vervin”, by charter dated Jul 1281[755]. “Gaucher châtelain de Noyon et de Thorote chevalier” notified that he and “Marie de Coucy jadis sa femme” had donated revenue from Braye to Foigny for their anniversaries by charter dated Aug 1281[756]. Gaucher & his first/second] wife had two children:

i) JEAN (-after 1301). “Jean de Thourotte sire de Honnecourt, fils aîné de mgr Gautier de Thourotte châtelain de Noyon et de Thourotte, chevalier” declared requesting “son oncle évêque de Laon” to place his seal on the testament of his father, by charter dated Mar 1284 (O.S.?)[757]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" confirmed a donation made by “miles...Philippus de Vineemonte” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated 1289[758]. Châtelain de Thourotte, Seigneur de Honnecourt: "Jehans Chastelains de Thorotte Sires de Honnecourt chevaliers" acknowledged a debt to the church of Laon “comme hoir à Monsieur Gauchiers de Thorotte jadis mon pere qui frere fu et hoirs de...Monsieur Robert de Thorotte jadis Evesque de Laon” by charter dated 1301[759].

- CHÂTELAINS de THOUROTTE[760].

ii) AUBERT (-after 1314). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. m ([18 Jan 1299]) JEANNE de Mello, daughter of GUILLAUME de Mello Seigneur d’Espoisses & his wife Agnes de Saint-Verain Dame de Vezinnes. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.

Gaucher & his second wife had three children:

iii) MARGUERITE . The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy le second" married “Gaucher de Torote” and had two daughters “l’une...Marguerite...mariée à...Richard de Montbeliard en Bourgongne”[761]. m as his first wife, RICHARD de Montbéliard Seigneur d’Antigny, son of THIERRY de Montbéliard Seigneur de Montfort, d’Antigny, de Meursault et de Champlitte & his wife Jeanne de Montaigu Dame d’Antigny, de Chagny et de Meursault [Bourgogne-Comté] (-[26 Apr 1333/1337]).

iv) ISABELLE (-before Jun 1276). The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy le second" married “Gaucher de Torote” and had two daughters “l’autre...Ysabeau...mariée au Sieur de Luzy, qui avoit esté fils Monsieur de Chasteauvilain”[762]. m as his first wife, GUY de Châteauvillain Seigneur de Luzy, son of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Châteauvillain et de Luzy-en-Broyes & his wife --- (-1288).

v) MARIE (-after 1315). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “primogenitus Alardus”, son of "Hugo patri succedens in terra de Antoing et de Espinoit" and his second wife, married “filia domini Galtheri de Torota Maria” by whom he had “plures...filias”[763]. m ALARD d’Antoing Seigneur de Briffeuil et de Genech, son of HUGUES [II] Seigneur d’Antoing et d’Espinoy & his second wife Marie van Peteghem (-1315 or before).

d) ROBERT (-1297). Canon at Reims. "Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the soul of “monseigneur Robert mon frere chanoine de Rains”, by charter dated Oct 1272[764]. Bishop of Laon. “Jean de Thourotte sire de Honnecourt, fils aîné de mgr Gautier de Thourotte châtelain de Noyon et de Thourotte, chevalier” declared requesting “son oncle évêque de Laon” to place his seal on the testament of his father, by charter dated Mar 1284 (O.S.?)[765].

4. ALIX (-after May 1226). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[766]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[767]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[768]. “Aélide tonloyère de Beauvais fille de Jean [châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte]” confirmed that “Guillaume chevalier fils de Jean châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte” sold land “à Béthencourt” to Saint-Médard de Soissons by charter dated May 1226[769]. m --- tonloyer de Beauvais, son of ---.

5. ERMENGARDE (-after 1243). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[770]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[771]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[772]. “Jean de Conty chevalier et sa femme Ermengarde fille de...Jean châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte” noted that “Guillaume chevalier fils de Jean châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte” sold land “à Béthencourt” to Saint-Médard de Soissons by charter dated Apr 1226[773]. “Joannes dominus de Conteio miles” confirmed donations to Conty Saint-Antoine, with the consent of “Ermangardis uxoris meæ et Manassœi filii mei primogeniti et aliorum liberorum...meorum”, by charter dated May 1229[774]. “Ermengardis relicta Johannis de Conti militls” confirmed donations to Froidmont made by Pierre de Quiévremont by charter dated 1243[775]. m JEAN Seigneur de Conty, son of ROBERT Seigneur de Conty & his wife --- (-after 1234).

6. RAOUL (-Apr 1245). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[776]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[777]. Bishop of Verdun 1224. The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record the abdication in 1224 of “Iohannes Virdunensis episcopus” and the succession of “Radulfus de Torta cantor de Lyon”[778]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[779]. The testament of “Johannes castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote”, dated 27 Dec 1235, appointed as executors “Viridunensis Lingonensis Epos filios meos...”[780]. The Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis record the death in 1245 of “Radulfus Virdunensis episcopus”[781].

7. GAUCHER (-after May 1257). “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[782]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[783]. "Guido de Thorota primogenitus Domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated “plantam meam de Behericourt juxta nemus Milonis” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “J--- castellano patre meo et fratribus meis Johanne de Thorota et Willelmo et Walchero”, by charter dated May 1221[784]. “Guillelmus de Thorota et Galcherus frater meus milites” donated property to Beaupré, with the consent of “uxores nostre Beatrix et Margareta et domina Ada de Parcent mater predictarum uxorum nostrarum”, by charter dated 1223[785]. "Walterus de Thorota miles filius Johannis castellanu Noviomi" sold property “vineam quam ecclesia de Machemont...” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated Dec 1234[786]. "Gauchiers de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue “que je tenoie du chastelain de Noyon” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Apr 1255[787]. Seigneur du Plessis-Cacheleu: “Gauchiers de Thorote cavalier et sire dou Plaissie Cacheleu” donated harvest “sor mes terrages de...Plaissie” to Saint-Amand for his anniversary by charter dated Jun 1256[788]. “Gautier de Thourotte chevalier sire du Plessier-Cacheleu [Kaceleu] et Agnès sa femme dame de Montmort et de Glengi” are named in a charter (of Ourscamp) dated May 1257[789]. Plessis-Cacheleu was inherited by Isabelle de Nesle, wife of Jean [II] de Montmorency Seigneur de Beausault, who was the granddaughter of Marguerite de Thourotte, daughter of Ansoul [II] de Thourotte Seigneur d’Offémont (see below). This inheritance suggests that Gaucher, named in the documents dated Jun 1256 and May 1257, was the same person as Gaucher, son of Jean [II] de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon, whose inheritance would presumably have been shared by the descendants of his brothers. m firstly MARGUERITE de Beaumont, daughter of HUGUES Vicomte de Beaumont & his wife Ada de Persan. “Guillelmus de Thorota et Galcherus frater meus milites” donated property to Beaupré, with the consent of “uxores nostre Beatrix et Margareta et domina Ada de Parcent mater predictarum uxorum nostrarum”, by charter dated 1223[790]. “Margareta de Persenco filia Hugonis vicecomitis Bellemontis” donated property, with the consent of “domini Galcheri de Torota mariti mei et domine Beatricis sororis mee et domini Guillelmi de Torota mariti sui”, by charter dated 1224[791]. m secondly AGNES Dame de Montmort et de Glengi, daughter of --- (-after May 1257). “Gautier de Thourotte chevalier sire du Plessier-Cacheleu [Kaceleu] et Agnès sa femme dame de Montmort et de Glengi” are named in a charter (of Ourscamp) dated May 1257[792].

8. ROBERT de Thourotte (-Fosse 16 Oct 1246, bur Aulne, transferred Clairvaux). “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[793]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Leodiensis episcoporum"[794]. Bishop of Langres 1232. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1232 of “episcopus Lingonensis magister Hugo de Monte Regali” and the succession of “Robertus de Torota frater Radulfi Virdunensis episcopi”[795]. The testament of “Johannes castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote”, dated 27 Dec 1235, appointed as executors “Viridunensis Lingonensis Epos filios meos...”[796]. Bishop of Liège 1240. The Aegidii Aurævallensis Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium records the succession of “Robertum...Lingonensem episcopum [...quondam canonicus Sancti Lamberti et abbas Sancte Marie Leodiensis]...vir nobilis genere cuius fratres erant domnus Radulphus Virdunensis episcopus et domnus Iohannes de Torota ballivus Campanie” in 1240 “apud Alnam monasterium Cysterciensis ordinis”, and later transfer “ad Claramvallem”[797]. The Aegidii Aurævallensis Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium records the death “castrum Fossense...XVII Kal Nov” 1246 of Bishop Guillaume and his burial “apud Alnam monasterium Cysterciensis ordinis”[798].

9. HELVIDE (-after Apr 1226). “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[799]. A genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “Messire Eustasses Torchapeaux sire de Conflans et de Mareuil” [identified as Eustache [II] Seigneur de Conflans] married “la fille le seigneur de Torotte...Jean Cayn”[800]. “Eustache de Conflans et sa femme Helvide fille de Jean [châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte]” confirmed that “Guillaume chevalier fils de Jean châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte” sold land “à Béthencourt” to Saint-Médard de Soissons by charter dated Apr 1226[801]. m EUSTACHE [II] Seigneur de Conflans, son of EUSTACHE [I] Seigneur de Conflans & his wife Marie de Pleurs (-after May 1243).

GUILLAUME de Thourotte, son of JEAN [II] de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife Odette de Dampierre-sur-Aube (-after Dec 1224). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[802]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[803]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[804]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[805]. "Willelmus filius domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “apud Deviscourt” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Guidonis primogeniti fratris ceterorumque fratrum et sororuum mearum...Beatrix uxor mea”, by charter dated 1218[806]. "Guido de Thorota primogenitus Domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated “plantam meam de Behericourt juxta nemus Milonis” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “J--- castellano patre meo et fratribus meis Johanne de Thorota et Willelmo et Walchero”, by charter dated May 1221[807]. “Guillelmus de Thorota et Galcherus frater meus milites” donated property to Beaupré, with the consent of “uxores nostre Beatrix et Margareta et domina Ada de Parcent mater predictarum uxorum nostrarum”, by charter dated 1223[808]. “Margareta de Persenco filia Hugonis vicecomitis Bellemontis” donated property, with the consent of “domini Galcheri de Torota mariti mei et domine Beatricis sororis mee et domini Guillelmi de Torota mariti sui”, by charter dated 1224[809]. "Willelmus de Thorota miles" confirmed the donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp made by “patris mei J. castellani Noviomi et Thorote” by charter dated Dec 1224[810].

m BEATRIX de Beaumont, daughter of HUGUES Vicomte de Beaumont & his wife Ada de Persan (-after 1223). “Hugo de Bellomonte” confirmed the donation of “medietatem vinee sue de Noytel...et apud Nuylly...terre arabilis” to Boran Sainte-Madeleine made by “Willelmus de Bellomonte frater meus, assensu Ivonis fratris nostri” and donated his own share of the land at the request of “uxoris mee Ade, Beatricis et Margarite filiarum mearum, Heudeborgi sorori mee” by charter dated 1203[811]. "Willelmus filius domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “apud Deviscourt” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Guidonis primogeniti fratris ceterorumque fratrum et sororum mearum...Beatrix uxor mea”, by charter dated 1218[812]. “Guillelmus de Thorota et Galcherus frater meus milites” donated property to Beaupré, with the consent of “uxores nostre Beatrix et Margareta et domina Ada de Parcent mater predictarum uxorum nostrarum”, by charter dated 1223[813]. “Margareta de Persenco filia Hugonis vicecomitis Bellemontis” donated property, with the consent of “domini Galcheri de Torota mariti mei et domine Beatricis sororis mee et domini Guillelmi de Torota mariti sui”, by charter dated 1224[814].

Guillaume & his wife had children

1. JEAN de Thourotte (-[Mar 1250/1252]). Seigneur d’Offémont (inherited from his mother, on the northern outskirts of Saint-Crépin-aux-Bois, about 10 kilometres south-east of Thourotte, in the present-day French département of Oise, arrondissement Compiègne, canton Attichy) et de Persan. "Jehans de Offemont chevaliers" donated revenue from “Thorote” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Mar 1249 (O.S.?) “en Egypte devant la Mansore sous le flun du Nil”[815]. Jean presumably died before 3 Dec 1252, the date of his brother’s charter cited below. He probably died in Egypt.

2. ANSOUL [I] de Thourotte (-[Oct 1272/Oct 1275]). Seigneur d’Offémont et de Persan. “Ansoult Sgr d’Offémont” donated property to the monks of Grandmont in the forest of Choisy “sur le ruisseau d’Erloy” by charter dated 3 Dec 1252[816]. "Ansous chevaliers sires d’Offemont...Marie d’Abecour femme monseigneur Ansout chevalier" donated land “ou terroir de Trachi” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Feb 1258 (O.S.?)[817]. “Ansout chevalier sire d’Offemont et Marie d’Abbécourt sa femme” declared having sold vines to Ourscamp charter dated Jun 1262[818]. "Ansous sire d’Offemont chevalier" donated revenue “seur mon travers de Thorote” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Oct 1272[819]. He must have died before Oct 1275, the date of his son’s charter quoted below. m MARIE d’Autrèches Dame d’Abbecourt, daughter of GUY d’Autrèches & his wife Isabelle --- (-after Sep 1270). "Ansous chevaliers sires d’Offemont...Marie d’Abecour femme monseigneur Ansout chevalier" donated land “ou terroir de Trachi” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Feb 1258 (O.S.?)[820]. “Ansout chevalier sire d’Offemont et Marie d’Abbécourt sa femme” declared having sold vines to Ourscamp charter dated Jun 1262[821]. The testament of "Ysabiaus dame d’Abbecourt", dated Mar 1264 (O.S.?), chose burial at Ourscamp to which she donated property, and in a separate document named as her heir “Marie me file...et me sire Ansous d’Offemont ses maris”[822]. A charter dated Sep 1270 records that “Marie dame de Chauressy” donated to Ourscamp “sa maison de Campigny”, with the consent of “Ansoult d’Offémont et Isabelle [error for Marie] d’Abbécourt sa femme”[823]. Ansoul [I] & his wife had [two] children:

a) ANSOUL [II] de Thourotte (-after May 1294). Seigneur d’Offémont. “Jehans de Saint Crespin escuyers” sold property to “monsegneur Ansoul chevalier segneur de Offemont” by charter dated Oct 1275[824]. “Bauduins de Saint Crespin escuyers” confirmed that “jadix monsegneur Guyon de Saint Crespin chevalier” had sold property to “monsegneur Ansout chevalier et segneur de Offemont et à madame Jehane sa femme” by charter dated Sep 1276[825]. "Ansous d’Offemont chevaliers sires d’Offemont et...Jehanne dame de Ronsoy et d’Offemont [sa] feme" donated revenue from “nostre paage ou travers de Thorote” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Aug 1289[826]. "Ansous d’Offemont chevaliers" confirmed that he and “ma...femme Jehanne jadis dame de Ronsoi” had donated revenue “sor le paage de Thorote” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, naming “me sire Gauchiers chevaliers castelains de Thorote mes...sires et cousins”, by charter dated Apr 1293[827]. The testament of “Ansoult d’Offémont”, dated 1294, chose burial at Ourscamp and donated money for his and his wife’s anniversaries[828]. m JEANNE Dame de Ronsoy, daughter of GERARD de Ronsoy & his wife --- (-[Aug 1289/Apr 1293]). “Bauduins de Saint Crespin escuyers” confirmed that “jadix monsegneur Guyon de Saint Crespin chevalier” had sold property to “monsegneur Ansout chevalier et segneur de Offemont et à madame Jehane sa femme” by charter dated Sep 1276[829]. “Béatrice [error for Jeanne] fille et héritière de défunt Gérard de Ronsoy chevalier et femme d’Ansout d’Offémont, et dont la famille gît dans l’église d’Ourscamp” donated revenue “sur le winage de Nesle” to Ourscamp, attributed to the monastery “au jour de la mort de Robert son frère”, by charter dated Mar 1282 (O.S.?)[830]. "Ansous d’Offemont chevaliers sires d’Offemont et...Jehanne dame de Ronsoy et d’Offemont [sa] feme" donated revenue from “nostre paage ou travers de Thorote” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Aug 1289[831]. Her husband’s Apr 1293 charter quoted above suggests that his wife was deceased at the time. Ansoul [II] & his wife had two children:

i) MARGUERITE de Thourotte . Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage[832]. Her husband’s acquisition of Offémont indicates that this information is correct, although the confirming primary source has not been identified. Dame d’Offémont. m GUY [I] de Clermont Seigneur de Breteuil, son of SIMON [II] de Clermont Seigneur d’Ailly & his wife Adela de Montfort (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).

ii) BEATRIX de Thourotte . Dame de Ronsoy-en-Vermandois. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that the second son of “Nicolaus” and his wife “filiam domini Guillelmi de Keu” married “filiam domini de Rousoit”[833]. m firstly GUILLAUME de Belœil, son of ---. m secondly GUILLAUME de Condé, son of NICOLAS Seigneur de Condé & his wife Catherine de Cayeux (-12 Jul 1302).

b) [ADAM de Thourotte (-after 1276). Canon at Reims. The involvement of Ansoul [II] de Thourote Seigneur d’Offémont, as well as the connection with Abbecourt (see Ansoul [II]’s mother above) suggests that Adam may have been Ansoul’s brother. “Florent de Pottes sire d’Abbecourt” sold revenue from “Campasnier” due from Ourscamp to “Mre Adam de Thourotte chanoine de Reims”, with the consent of “Ansout d’Offément chevalier”, by charter dated 1276[834].]

3. RAOUL de Thourotte (-7 Apr 1287). Archbishop of Lyon 1285.

H. SEIGNEURS de PERONNE

1. --- . m HELVIS, daughter of ---. “Eudes Seigneur de Péronne” confirmed the donation of property “à Digniecourt” made to Saint-Quentin near Péronne by “Helvis mère de Robert de Péronne” by undated charter[835]. One child:

a) ROBERT de Péronne (-after 1076). “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...”[836]. “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1076 under which “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus”[837]. Philippe I King of France confirmed the donation made to the church of Charroux by “Robertus...castri et terre Perronensis dominus et Emma uxor eius et eorum filius Odo et filia Adeliz” by charter dated 1085, classified as spurious in the compilation[838]. m EMMA, daughter of ---. Philippe I King of France confirmed the donation made to the church of Charroux by “Robertus...castri et terre Perronensis dominus et Emma uxor eius et eorum filius Odo et filia Adeliz” by charter dated 1085, classified as spurious in the compilation[839]. Robert & his wife had one two children:

i) EUDES de Péronne (-[1091/95]). “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...”[840]. “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1076 under which “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus”[841]. “Eudes Seigneur de Péronne” confirmed the donation of property “à Digniecourt” made to Saint-Quentin near Péronne by “Helvis mère de Robert de Péronne” by undated charter[842]. Philippe I King of France confirmed the donation made to the church of Charroux by “Robertus...castri et terre Perronensis dominus et Emma uxor eius et eorum filius Odo et filia Adeliz” by charter dated 1085, classified as spurious in the compilation[843]. "Odo Rotberti filius...Perronensi principatu...sublimatus" confirmed donations of property to Compiègne Saint-Corneille by charter dated 1091, subscribed by “Odonis Perronensis domini, Lucie uxoris eius...”[844]. Robert II Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of revenue from property “apud Warneston” to Capy priory made by “Odo Peronensis” with the consent of “Adelisa sorore sua, eiusque viro Roberto” by undated charter [dated to 1093/1111][845]. m LUCIE, daughter of --- (-after 1091). "Odo Rotberti filius...Perronensi principatu...sublimatus" confirmed donations of property to Compiègne Saint-Corneille by charter dated 1091, subscribed by “Odonis Perronensis domini, Lucie uxoris eius...”[846].

ii) ADELISE de Péronne (-after 1126). “Robertus de Perona” donated “terram de Gomincourt...quartam partem” to Saint-Eloi, with the consent of “filio suo Odone ac filia sua Alecia”, and “Morens de Bethunia” donated his part in the same, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Wago de Bethunia, Alulfus præpositus, Elbertus de Bethunia...”[847]. Philippe I King of France confirmed the donation made to the church of Charroux by “Robertus...castri et terre Perronensis dominus et Emma uxor eius et eorum filius Odo et filia Adeliz” by charter dated 1085, classified as spurious in the compilation[848]. “Adile seur d’Eudes Sire de Péronne” donated “sa part des cambes de la ville de Béthune” to Mont Saint-Quentin abbey by charter dated 1090[849]. Robert II Count of Flanders confirmed the donation of revenue from property “apud Warneston” to Capy priory made by “Odo Peronensis” with the consent of “Adelisa sorore sua, eiusque viro Roberto” by undated charter [dated to 1093/1111][850]. “Robert Sire de Péronne et Aelis sa compagne” donated property to Mont Saint-Quentin abbey by charter dated 1095[851]. “Athelidis Peronensium et Garnestonensium Domina” confirmed donations to Saint-Pierre de Garneston made by herself and “frater meus Odo” by charter dated 1126 witnessed by “...tota familia dominæ Athelidis”[852]. m (before 1095) ROBERT, son of --- (-after 1095). “Robert Sire de Péronne et Aelis sa compagne” donated property to Mont Saint-Quentin abbey by charter dated 1095[853]. Du Chesne indicates that the husband of Adelise de Péronne was Robert [IV] de Béthune, but he cites no primary source which confirms the connection[854]. In addition, no source has been found in which Robert de Béthune is named as seigneur de Péronne, although Du Chesne does quote other sources in which the Béthune family refers to Warneston (one of the Péronne properties as noted above) and one source dated Jan 1199 at Péronne[855]. Until more information comes to light, it is suggested that this possible co-identity should be viewed with caution.

1. --- . m FREBURGE, daughter of --- (-after 1147). "Matheus filius Hugonis de Perona, Jerosolimam profecturus" donated property “in territorio de Hangest” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “tres filii domine Fraeburgis, Rogerus...Peronensis castellanus, Balduinus Rufus et Odo clericus”, by charter dated 1147[856]. Three children:

a) ROGER (-after 1146). Châtelain de Péronne. “...Rogeri castellani de Peronia, Radulphi castellani de Nigella...” witnessed the charter dated 1146 under which Thierry Bishop of Amiens confirmed the donation made by "Alelmus de Ambianis"[857]. "Matheus filius Hugonis de Perona, Jerosolimam profecturus" donated property “in territorio de Hangest” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “tres filii domine Fraeburgis, Rogerus...Peronensis castellanus, Balduinus Rufus et Odo clericus”, by charter dated 1147[858].

b) BAUDOUIN “Rufus” (-after 1147). "Matheus filius Hugonis de Perona, Jerosolimam profecturus" donated property “in territorio de Hangest” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “tres filii domine Fraeburgis, Rogerus...Peronensis castellanus, Balduinus Rufus et Odo clericus”, by charter dated 1147[859].

c) EUDES (-after 1147). "Matheus filius Hugonis de Perona, Jerosolimam profecturus" donated property “in territorio de Hangest” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “tres filii domine Fraeburgis, Rogerus...Peronensis castellanus, Balduinus Rufus et Odo clericus”, by charter dated 1147[860].

1. HUGUES de Péronne . m ---. The name of Hugues’s wife is not known. Hugues & his wife had one child:

a) MATHIEU (-before [1150]). "Matheus filius Hugonis de Perona, Jerosolimam profecturus" donated property “in territorio de Hangest” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “tres filii domine Fraeburgis, Rogerus...Peronensis castellanus, Balduinus Rufus et Odo clericus”, by charter dated 1147[861]. m ---. The name of Mathieu’s wife is not known. Mathieu & his wife had one child:

i) ADELAIDE . Dame de Péronne. “Domina Adhelidis de Perona filia Mathei qui Strabo dictus est, uxor...Symonis de Buisceavesnes” donated “decimam...ad Cartheni” to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Quentin, for the lives of “ipsa vel filius eius Goiffredus”, by charter dated to [1150][862]. m SIMON de Bouchavennes, son of ---.

Five siblings:

1. --- (-before 1234). Châtelain de Péronne: Philippe II King of France recorded that “castellanus Peronensis” had sold “Braium super Summam fluvium et Praaz” to him, with the consent of “fratres sui Rogerus et Willelmus et sorores eius Biemavient et Gila”, by charter dated 1210[863]. m [ELISABETH] de Lille, daughter of JEAN Châtelain de Lille & his wife --- (-before 1237). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 1234 under which [her brother] “Willelmus Insulensis castellanus” donated money to Phalempin abbey, sealed by “Ioannis Peronensis castellani nepotis mei et heredis”[864]. Vander Haer names her “Elisabeth” but cites no primary source on which he bases this information[865]. No primary source has been identified which names her. She and her husband presumably predeceased her brother Guillaume, whch accounts for the succession of her son. Two children:

a) JEAN de Péronne (-17 Nov 1244). Châtelain de Péronne: “Willelmus Insulensis castellanus” donated money to Phalempin abbey by charter dated 1234, sealed by “Ioannis Peronensis castellani nepotis mei et heredis”[866]. Châtelain de Lille. “...Jean chastelain de Lille...” witnessed the charter dated 1237 which records that “Thomas de Savoye mary de ladite Jeanne” committed to observe the treaty between Jeanne Ctss of Flanders and the king of France[867].

- CHÂTELAINS de LILLE.

b) PIERRE de Boueli (-after Feb 1242). A charter dated Feb 1242 records that “Jean châtelain de Lille et de Péronne et Pierre de Boueli chevalier son frère” had sold “leur ville de Combles” to Robert Comte d’Artois, and that “Mahaut femme du châtelain de Lille” had renounced her claim to dower over the town[868].

2. ROGER de Péronne (-after 1210). Philippe II King of France recorded that “castellanus Peronensis” had sold “Braium super Summam fluvium et Praaz” to him, with the consent of “fratres sui Rogerus et Willelmus et sorores eius Biemavient et Gila”, by charter dated 1210[869].

3. GUILLAUME de Péronne (-after 1210). Philippe II King of France recorded that “castellanus Peronensis” had sold “Braium super Summam fluvium et Praaz” to him, with the consent of “fratres sui Rogerus et Willelmus et sorores eius Biemavient et Gila”, by charter dated 1210[870].

4. [BIEMAVIENT] de Péronne . Philippe II King of France recorded that “castellanus Peronensis” had sold “Braium super Summam fluvium et Praaz” to him, with the consent of “fratres sui Rogerus et Willelmus et sorores eius Biemavient et Gila”, by charter dated 1210[871]. It is possible that “Biemavient” was some type of nickname.

5. GILLE de Péronne . Philippe II King of France recorded that “castellanus Peronensis” had sold “Braium super Summam fluvium et Praaz” to him, with the consent of “fratres sui Rogerus et Willelmus et sorores eius Biemavient et Gila”, by charter dated 1210[872].

I. SEIGNEURS de ROYE

1. BARTHELEMY de Roye (-after Apr 1110). Philippe I King of France received the homage of “nepotem nostrum Theobaldum comitem Trecensem”, the king being seconded by “...Bartholomeus de Roya...”, by charter dated Apr 1110[873].

Two brothers:

1. AUBRY de Roye (-after [1166]). “Gerardus Hamensis dominus filius Odonis pedis Lupi” donated “decimam de Albincurte quam Albricus de Roya de feodo meo tenebat...” to Homblières by charter dated 1144[874]. “Alberici de Roia, Walberti castellani...” subscribed the charter dated 1144 under which Raoul Comte de Vermandois confirmed the foundation of Héronval by “Gaufredus qui Martellus cognominatur de Calniaco”[875]. Raoul Comte de Vermandois confirmed the agreement between Compiègne Saint-Corneille and "Albericum...de Roia" concerning “locum Bekegnies” by charter dated 1163, witnessed by “de militibus: Wermundus frater Alberici, Rogonus filius Alberici...”[876]. “Albricus de Roia et uxor eius Helvidis et Robertus de Viri...” subscribed the charter dated 1163 under which Baudouin Bishop of Noyon confirmed the donation to Héronval made by “Hugo Furnarius de Calneio et Dedela uxor eius”[877]. "Radulfi Campi avenæ, Alberici de Roya et Rorgonis filii sui..." subscribed the charter dated to [1166] under which “Radulfus...comes Viromandensis” donated property to Ourscamp Notre-Dame[878]. m HELVIDE, daughter of ---. “Albricus de Roia et uxor eius Helvidis et Robertus de Viri...” subscribed the charter dated 1163 under which Baudouin Bishop of Noyon confirmed the donation to Héronval made by “Hugo Furnarius de Calneio et Dedela uxor eius”[879]. Aubry & his wife had one child:

a) RORICON de Roye (-after 1192). Raoul Comte de Vermandois confirmed the agreement between Compiègne Saint-Corneille and "Albericum...de Roia" concerning “locum Bekegnies” by charter dated 1163, witnessed by “de militibus: Wermundus frater Alberici, Rogonus filius Alberici...”[880].

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2. GUERMOND (-after 1163). Raoul Comte de Vermandois confirmed the agreement between Compiègne Saint-Corneille and "Albericum...de Roia" concerning “locum Bekegnies” by charter dated 1163, witnessed by “de militibus: Wermundus frater Alberici, Rogonus filius Alberici...”[881].

RORICON de Roye, son of AUBRY de Roye & his wife Helvide --- (-after 1192). Raoul Comte de Vermandois confirmed the agreement between Compiègne Saint-Corneille and "Albericum...de Roia" concerning “locum Bekegnies” by charter dated 1163, witnessed by “de militibus: Wermundus frater Alberici, Rogonus filius Alberici...”[882]. "Radulfi Campi avenæ, Alberici de Roya et Rorgonis filii sui..." subscribed the charter dated to [1166] under which “Radulfus...comes Viromandensis” donated property to Ourscamp Notre-Dame[883]. "Rorgo de Roia" donated property “inter Garmeni et Andechi sita” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Radulfo filio meo”, by charter dated 1190[884]. "...Domnus Rogo de Roia, Radulfus filius eius..." subscribed the charter dated 1192 under which the abbot of Compiègne Saint-Corneille transferred land to Doulaincourt[885].

m ADELINE de Guise, daughter of GUY Seigneur de Guise & his wife Adeline [de Montmorency]. Goethals records her parentage and marriage without citing the source which confirms the information[886]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.

Roricon & his wife had four children:

1. RAOUL de Roye (-after Dec 1202). "Rorgo de Roia" donated property “inter Garmeni et Andechi sita” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Radulfo filio meo”, by charter dated 1190[887]. "...Domnus Rogo de Roia, Radulfus filius eius..." subscribed the charter dated 1192 under which the abbot of Compiègne Saint-Corneille transferred land to Doulaincourt[888]. Goethals records that Raoul confirmed the sale of harvest revenue “sur la dîme de Laigny” [to Ourscamp] by charter dated Dec 1202[889]. m ---. The name of Raoul’s wife is not known. Raoul & his wife had two children:

a) JEAN [I] de Roye (-after 1219). The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Johans sires de Neele” holding “Neele et les apartenances...” and name among his “home...missires Bartholomez de Roie...missires Johans de Roie, Johans li filz monseignor Raul de Roie...”[890]. A charter dated 14 Mar 1214 (O.S.) lists the knights from Vermandois who fought at Bouvines, including “...l’héritier de Raoul de Roie...Jean de Roie...Barthélemy de Roie...”[891]. Père Anselme records that Jean confirmed the exchange of land donated by “Rogues son ayeul” to Ourscamp by charters dated 1217 and 1219[892]. Jean must have survived for many years after 1219 if the parentage of his supposed daughter Marie is correctly shown below. This suggestion appears corroborated by the estimated birth date of his son and by the chronology of the life of his supposed daughter Marie. m [as her first husband, --- de Hangest, daughter of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Hangest & his wife ---. Goethals records that Jean Seigneur de Roye married “l’héritière de Hangest”, who married secondly “Raoul de Soissons Sire de Cœuvres”, without citing any source which confirms this information[893]. If he is correct, Jean’s widow married secondly Raoul de Nesle, a marriage which appears to be confirmed by the Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes which records that "conte Jehan de Soissons...monseigneur Raoul son frere" married firstly "la roine de Chyppre...ainsnee fille le roi Henri d’Acre" (garbled) and secondly “la fille monseignour Jehan de Hangest...[in one manuscript] qui fus peres monsigneur Aubert” by whom he had “une fille qui fut hoirs de sa terre”[894]. Jean [I] & his wife had children:

i) MATHIEU [I] de Roye ([1225/33?]-[1300/25 Sep 1301]). Goethals records his parentage (no source cited)[895]. Seigneur de Roye et de Germigny.

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ii) [MARIE de Roye (-after Apr 1282). Guy Count of Flanders confirmed the sale of revenue “partie de son fief de Vlargelo dans les paroisses de Schore et de Kayhem” to Lille abbey made by “messire Robert de Wavrin Sire de Saint-Venant”, making provision for “Marie de Roye sa femme” should Robert predecease her, by charter dated Apr 1282[896]. Goethals names Jean Seigneur de Roye and his wife “l’héritière de Hangest” as her parents[897]. m [as his first wife,] ROBERT de Wavrin Seigneur de Saint-Venant, son of ROBERT [II] de Wavrin & his [first wife Eustachie de Châtillon/second wife Mathilde de Béthune] ([1230/50]-[1308]).]

b) RAOUL de Roye . Goethals records his parentage without citing the source which confirms the information[898]. Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu, de iure uxoris[899]. m MARIE de Ville, daughter of ---. Père Anselme names her as the wife of Raoul de Roye (no source cited)[900]. Goethals says that her father was “seigneur de Ville-sur-Illon” (no source cited)[901]. Raoul & his wife had two children:

i) MATHIEU [I] de Roye (-before 1311). Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu. m as her first husband, JEANNE de Vendeuil, daughter of CLAREMBAUD Seigneur de Vendeuil & his wife --- (-after 1319). “Mathieu de Roye chevalier Seigneur de la Ferté et de Vendeuil et…Jeanne sa femme dame de Vendeuil” settled a dispute with the convent of Saint-Nicolas or Bos in the bishopric of Laon concerning rights over “Choegny” by charter dated Jul 1280 which names “messire Huon de Vendeuil et messire Clerembaut”[902]. A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem”[903]: an order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1311 ordered “Jeanne de Vendeuil, veuve de Mathieu de Roye chevalier” to guarantee a certain sum claimed from “damoiselle Marguerite de Picquigny” by “demoiselle Marie de Roye”[904]. She married secondly Jean [III] de Nesle Seigneur de Falvy. Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated May 1324 which named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary”[905]. Mathieu & his wife had two children:

(1) MATHIEU [II] de Roye . Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu. [It is uncertain to which Mathieu de Roye the following document refers: an order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1310 related to “Mathieu de Roye”[906].] A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem”[907]. m (Apr 1291) MARGUERITE de Picquigny, daughter of JEAN de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Marguerite de Beaumetz (-after 16 Nov 1343). A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem”[908]. Mathieu [II] & his wife had two children:

(a) ELEONORE de Roye (-[7 Jan 1329/1333]). A document dated 23 May 1322 records an agreement between “monseigneur Jean de Châtillon chevalier seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu et madame Lyenor de Roye sa femme, dame et héritière de ladite terre de la Ferté” and “demoiselle Marguerite de Picquigny, demoiselle de la Ferté, mère de ladite dame” concerning “[les] arrière-fiefs de ladite seigneurie”, a similar document dated 12 Mar 1325[909]. Her marriage and family origin are confirmed by the marriage contract between "Iehan de Chasteillon chevalier Sires de Gandelus, de la Ferté et de Marigny et Lienor de Roye sa fame...Gauchier leur fils ainsné" and "Damoiselle Jeanne filhe de...Iehan de Guines Vicomte de Miaux et Sire de Fertez Ancoul et Gauchier et de feu Madame Jehanne de Chantilly iadis sa fame", dated Sep 1323[910]. Dame de la Ferté en Ponthieu. A document of the Parlement de Paris dated 7 Jan 1329 records the rejection of the claim by “Jean de Chatillon chevalier et Aliénor sa femme, seigneurs de La Ferté en Ponthieu, d’Yaucourt et de Dury en Vermandois” for a fifth part of the dower of “Marguerite de Picquigny damoiselle de La Ferté, veuve de Mathieu de Roye et mère d’Aliénor”[911]. Duchesne records a charter dated 1333 in which Jean donates property for the souls of “sa...compagne defunte et de leurs enfans”[912]. m as his first wife, JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Gandelus, son of GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon Comte de Porcien & his first wife Isabelle de Dreux (-1363, bur Cerfroy).

(b) BEATRIX de Roye .

(2) MARIE de Roye . A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem”[913]. Dame de Vendeuil. A charter dated May 1324 named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary”[914]. m GUILLAUME [IV] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Hebuterne, son of GUILLAUME [III] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne & his wife Jeanne de Nesle dite de Falvy (-after 1310).

ii) MARIE de Roye (-13 Mar ----). The executors of “domini Auberti de Hangesto” claimed against “comitem Vindocinensem” for “dotalicio comitisse uxoris sue” dated 1260[915]. Her third marriage is confirmed by the necrology of Saint-Nicolas de Courville which records the death “V Non Mai“ of "dominus Johannes de Veteriponte miles junior” and his donation for the anniversaries of “patris et matris eiusdem necnon et domini Yvonis condam fratris sui” made “Curveville in castello...in presencia nobilis domine domine de Vindocino domine de Curvavilla uxoris eiusdem...anno LXXI die mercurii post Concepcionem beate Marie Virginis” [1270/71][916]. A charter dated 1272 records a judgment against “B. comitem Vindocinensem” and after his death “dominam Mariam comitissam Vindocinensem, ratione liberorum suorum” relating to the capture of four men in the land of Sentier priory[917]. The necrology of Vendôme La Trinité records the death "V Non Mar" of "Maria comitissa"[918]. The necrology of Saint-Nicolas de Courville records the death “III Id Mar“ of "Marie domine de Curveville condam comitisse Vindocinensis et matris Yvonis domini Curveville militis” and the donation for whom of “annui redditus super preposituram Curveville, ad festum beati Remigii”[919]. m firstly AUBERT [IV] de Hangest Seigneur de Genlis, son of [AUBERT [III] Seigneur de Genlis & his wife Beatrix de Châtillon] (-before 1259). m secondly ([before 1259]) BOUCHARD [VIII] Comte de Vendôme, son of PIERRE Comte de Vendôme & his wife Jeanne de Mayenne (-[15 May 1271], bur St Georges de Vendôme). m thirdly ([15 May/9 Dec] 1271) JEAN de Vieuxpont Seigneur de Courville, son of ROBERT de Vieuxpont Seigneur de Courville & his wife Isabelle de Maillebois (-3 May ----).

2. BARTHELEMY de Roye (-24 Jan 1237, bur Joyenval). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Johans sires de Neele” holding “Neele et les apartenances...” and name among his “home...missires Bartholomez de Roie...missires Johans de Roie, Johans li filz monseignor Raul de Roie...”[920]. A charter dated 14 Mar 1214 (O.S.) lists the knights from Vermandois who fought at Bouvines, including “...l’héritier de Raoul de Roie...Jean de Roie...Barthélemy de Roie...”[921]. Grand Chambrier de France. "Bartholomeus de Roia camerarius Francie" confirmed a donation to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated 1223[922]. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “24 Jan“ 1237 of "domini Bartholomæi de Roya magni Franciæ camerarii, principalis hujus ecclesiæ fundatoris”[923]. The necrology of Amiens records the death “V Id Jan” of “Bartholomei de Roya camerarii Francie” and his donation[924]. m PETRONILLE de Montfort, daughter of SIMON [IV] de Montfort Seigneur de Montfort & his wife Amicie of Leicester (-3 Feb 1216). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “3 Feb“ 1216 of "dominæ Petronillæ, domini Bartholomæi fundatoris conjugis et patruæ domini Almarici Montisfortis comitis”[925]. Barthélemy & his wife had five children:

a) JEAN de Roye (-30 Jun 1278, bur Joyenval). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “30 Jun“ 1278 of "domini Johannis de Roya militis, domini Bartholomæi fundatoris filii primogeniti”, his donation of revenue “apud Mesnil subtus Viennam” and his burial “juxta patrem suum”[926]. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “24 Sep...circa 1296“ of "domini Joannis de Roya et Heluissæ uxoris eius” and the donation of “vineam suam...et...juris...in terra Sancti Petri in Campis et in sua villa Alnoei le Duc”for their souls[927].

b) ALIX de Roye (-26 Jan 1226). A manuscript genealogy of the Lords of Beaumont records that “Joannem”, son of “Robertum comitem Alencheii”, married “Aaliz filiam domini Bartholomæi de Roye” but died childless[928]. Philippe II King of France confirmed the marriage contract between “comitem Robertum Alenchonii...Johannis filii” and “Barth. de Roia...Aaliz filiæ” by charter dated 1205[929]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the necrology of Joyenval which records the death of [her son] "domini Joannis de Nigella filii dominæ Aelidis de Roya” and his donation which was confirmed by his mother[930]. Père Anselme records a charter dated Feb 1225 (presumably O.S.) under which Barthélemy de Roye granted property to his daughter Alix, widow of Raoul de Nesle (no source citation)[931]. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “26 Jan“ 1226 of "dominæ Alidiæ de Roya filiæ domini Bartholomæi fundatoris” and the donation of revenue from “teloneum suum de Roya, detentum nunc a domino de Mouy”[932]. “Guillelmus Beluacensis castellanus et Margarita uxor eius domina Guarmegniaci” confirmed the donation to Orcamp abbey made by “dominus Bartholomeus de Roya Franciæ camerarius et domina Petronilla quondam uxor eius...quondam filiæ suæ Adeliciæ uxori defuncti Radulfi de Nigella” by charter dated Feb 1225 (O.S.)[933]. m firstly (1205) JEAN [III] d’Alençon, son of ROBERT Comte d’Alençon & his second wife Jeanne de Preuilly Dame de la Guerche (-8 Jan 1212, bur Perseigne). m secondly (before 1214) RAOUL de Nesle Seigneur de Falvy, son of JEAN de Nesle Châtelain de Bruges, Seigneur de Nesle, de Falvy et de Hérelle & his wife Elisabeth van Peteghem (-before Feb 1226).

c) AMICIE de Roye (-[28 Jul] ----). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “28 Jul“ of "domini Crispini domini [de] Dangut...et Amiciæ uxoris eius filiæ domini fundatoris” and their donation of revenue “apud Montemealvum et jus patronatus de Herbetot”[934]. m as his first wife, GUILLAUME [IV] Crespin Seigneur de Bec-Crespin, son of GUILLAUME [III] Crespin Seigneur de Bec-Crespin & his wife Eve d’Harcourt Dame de Lisors (-[28 Jul] 1251).

d) ADELAIDE de Roye (-5 May 1311). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “5 May“ 1311 of "dominæ Aelidis de Roya, fundatoris filiæ et uxoris domini Johannis le Latinier” and her donation[935]. m JEAN le Latinier, son of ---.

e) MARGUERITE de Roye (-9 Feb 1268). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “9 Feb“ 1268 of "dominæ Margaretæ de Roya, filiæ, domini fundatoris” and her donation of revenue from “forestam suam versus Stampas”[936].

3. PIERRE de Roye (-2 Mar 1248, bur Joyenval). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “2 Mar“ 1248 of "domini Petri de Roya militis, Bartholomæi fundatoris fratris” and his burial “juxta fratrem et filios, chorum inter et sanctuarium hujus ecclesiæ”[937]. m ---. The primary source which confirms the name of Pierre’s wife has not been identified. Pierre & his wife had four children:

a) MATHIEU de Roye (-16 Apr 1259). A list of knights participating in a tournament at Compiègne in Jun 1238 includes “...Mahuis de Roye...”[938]. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “16 Apr“ 1259 of "domini Matthæi de Roya militis nepotis ex fratre domini fundatoris”[939].

b) ROBERT de Roye (-21 Feb 1271, bur Joyenval). The necrology of Joyenval records the death “21 Feb“ 1271 of "domini Roberti de Roya, domini Bartholomæi fundatoris ex fratre nepotis et archidiaconi Noviomensis” and his burial “ante gradum presbyterii hujus ecclesie”[940].

c) NICOLAS de Roye (-15 Apr [1240], bur Joyenval). Bishop of Noyon 1228. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1228 of “episcopo Noviomensi Gerardo fratre episcopi Iacobi Suessionensis” and the succession of “Nicholaus Turonensis decanus, nepos ex sorore [?] viri nobilis Bartholomei de Roia in curia regis Francie nominatissimi”[941]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1240 of “episcopus Noviomensis Nicholaus” and the election of “domnus Karolus regis patruus...Petrus” as his successor[942]. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “15 Apr“ 1239 of "domini Nicolai de Roya episcopi Noviomensis nepotis ex fratre domini Bartholomæi fundatoris” and his burial “juxta patruum”[943].

d) BARTHELEMY de Roye (-26 Apr 1264). Archdeacon of Noyon. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “26 Apr“ 1264 of "domini Bartholomæi de Roya archidiaconi Noviomensis, domini fundatoris ex fratre nepotis” and his burial “inter fratres, inter chorum et altare hujus ecclesiæ”[944].

4. --- . m ---. One child:

a) JEAN de Roye . "Johannes de Roia dominus de Monchi et de Garmeni" confirmed a donation made by “avi mei dni Rogonis de Roia” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame by charter dated 1207[945]. The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Johannem de Roia” as one of the vassals of “Odo de Han...baroniam suam et castrum de Ham”[946]. The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Johans sires de Neele” holding “Neele et les apartenances...” and name among his “home...missires Bartholomez de Roie...missires Johans de Roie, Johans li filz monseignor Raul de Roie...”[947]. A charter dated 14 Mar 1214 (O.S.) lists the knights from Vermandois who fought at Bouvines, including “...l’héritier de Raoul de Roie...Jean de Roie...Barthélemy de Roie...”[948].

No indication has been found of the parentage of Dreux [I] de Roye. The reference to Germigny suggests that he was closely related to Mathieu [I] de Roye shown below: maybe they were brothers.

1. DREUX [I] de Roye (-after 1261). An order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1261 confirmed the rights of usage of “Dreu de Roye (de Roya)” in “la forêt d’Evreux...”[949]. Seigneur de Germigny; an order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1261 required “Dreu de Roye seigneur de Germigny (de Garmegniaco)” to request the king’s permission to sell his woods and “à payer le tiers et danger pour les bois de Defens, de Saint-Germain, de Mont-Oson (de Montibus-Oson), et le bois du Plessis, dit de Congi”[950].

MATHIEU [I] de Roye, son of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Roye & his wife --- ([1225/33?]-[1300/25 Sep 1301]). Goethals records his parentage (no source cited)[951]. Seigneur de Roye et de Germigny. Père Anselme records that Mathieu accompanied Louis IX King of France overseas in 1248 and 1270 (no source cited)[952]. His participation in the 1248 expedition suggests his birth date range shown above. An order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1267 restored the closing of a path near Saint-Riqiuer abbey, which had been destroyed by “le bailli d’Amiens” at the request of “Mathieu de Roye”, and other orders dated 1267, 1268, 1269, 1277, 1283, 1285, 1286 related to matters between “Mathieu de Roye” and Saint-Riquier[953]. Père Anselme records that Mathieu “servait encore en Flandre en 1300 et mourut peu après” (no source cited)[954].

m ALIX, daughter of --- (-after 25 Sep 1301). Père Anselme records that outstanding payments for her husband’s military service were paid to “sa veuve...Alix” and to “[le] seigneur de Germigny son fils” 25 Sep 1301 (no source cited)[955].

Seven siblings. Père Anselme records them as children of Mathieu [I] Seigneur de Roye and his wife Alix (no source citations)[956]. However, their chronology suggests their births in the range [1280/95], which appears inconsistent with their supposed father’s birth in [1225/33?]. Two explanations seem possible: (1) Alix, shown above, was Mathieu’s second wife married late in life, his first wife having died childless, or (2) a generation is missing in the Roye family, in which case the references cited above relating to Mathieu may refer to two persons father and son. No source has yet been found which sheds light on this problem.

1. JEAN [II] de Roye (-after 1338). Seigneur de Roye et de Germigny. Père Anselme records that outstanding payments for her husband’s military service were paid to “sa veuve...Alix” and to “[le] seigneur de Germigny son fils” 25 Sep 1301 (no source cited)[957]. Père Anselme records documents dated 1318 and 1323 in which Jean [II] was named, that in 1338 Philippe VI King of France sent him to Tournai, besieged by the English king, and that he was subsequently “établi au gouvernement de la ville de Cambray”[958]. m ---. The primary source which confirms the name of Jean’s wife has not been identified. Père Anselme names her “N--- de Thorotte-Offemont” without citing the source which confirms the information[959]. Jean [II] & his wife had children:

a) MATHIEU [II] de Roye (-[Mar 1378/1380], bur Longpont). Seigneur de Roye. Père Anselme records that Mathieu was sent to England as a hostage in 1360 and remained there for 14 years[960]. Père Anselme records payments made to Mathieu [II] for military service in Mar 1377 (O.S.?), his date of death and place of burial, without citing the source which confirms the information[961]. m firstly (1344) YOLANDE de Hangest, daughter of JEAN de Hangest Seigneur de Genlis & his wife Marie Dame de Vignemont. Père Anselme records her parentage, marriage, and marriage date (no source citations)[962]. m secondly as her second husband, MARIE de Berlaimont dite de Floyon, widow of JEAN de Dongelberghe Seigneur de Longchamps, daughter of --- de Floyon [de Berlaimont?] Seigneur de Ville en Hainaut & his wife --- (-after 15 May 1380). Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage to “Marie de Floyon fille de N--- de Floyon seigneur de Ville en Hainaut” (which took place after “Mathieu de Roye fut revenu d’Angleterre”, which is inconsistent with Mathieu’s supposed third marriage) without citing the source which confirms the information[963]. Goethals names her “Marie de Berlaymont dite de Floyon, veuve de Jean de Dongelberghe seigneur de Longchamps”, without citing the source which confirms the information[964]. [m thirdly (contract 1 Sep 1363) as her first husband, ISABELLE de Châtillon, daughter of GAUCHER de Châtillon Seigneur de Rozoy et de Clacy, Vidame de Laon & his wife Marie de Coucy. She married secondly Guillaume Cassinel Seigneur de Pomponne et de Romainville. Duchesne records her parentage, her first marriage contract, and her second marriage[965]. Her first marriage appears inconsistent with Père Anselme’s report that Mathieu [II] Seigneur de Roye was a hostage in England from 1360 to [1374] (see above). No information has yet been found to explain this apparent inconsistency. Père Anselme records her two marriages[966]. Mathieu [II] & his first wife had one child:

i) MARIE de Roye (-after 1416). Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages without citing the sources which confirm the information, and notes that she sold property “à Magnevillers” to “[le] seigneur d’Aunoy son cousin” in Oct 1407, “la seigneurie de Germigny” 17 Dec 1415, and was recorded as a widow in 1416[967]. Dame de Roye, de Germigny et de Moncy-le-Perreux. Goethals notes that Marie had an only daughter [by her second marriage] “Marie de Hangest dame de Roye” and that “tous ses biens retournèrent à la branche des sires d’Aunoy, comtes de Roucy”[968]. m firstly (1374) ALAIN de Mauny, son of --- (-[1387/88]). m secondly as his second wife, JEAN de Hangest Seigneur de Hangest et d’Avesnecourt, son of JEAN Seigneur de Hangest et d’Avesnecourt & his wife Marie de Picquigny (-before 1416).

2. MATHIEU de Roye (-after 1350). Seigneur de Plessier-de-Roye.

- see below.

3. ALBERT de Roye (-25 Apr 1336). Père Anselme records that Albert assisted his older brother Jean in an enquiry in 1315 and was named “clerc du roi” 27 Mar 1321 (no sources cited)[969]. Bishop of Laon [1326].

4. ARNOUL de Roye (-after 1325). Père Anselme records that he was “archidiacre de Cambray en 1325” (no source cited)[970].

5. PIERRE de Roye (-after 1330). Seigneur de Maurecourt. Père Anselme records his parentage, noting documents dated early-Dec 1318, 12 Jan 1319, 1328, and 1330 in which he was named (no source citations)[971].

6. DREUX [II] de Roye (-[28 Mar 1329/1334]). Père Anselme records his service in Flanders in 1315/16, notes other documents dated 1318, 1321, 31 May 1322, Nov 1325, and 28 Mar 1329 in which he was named, and records that by testament he bequeathed “sa maison de S. Quentin pour le saint voyage de Jerusalem” which his executors sold in 1334 to the town of Saint-Quentin (no source citations)[972]. The last mention suggests that Dreux died on the journey or before undertaking the voyage. m as her second husband, ALIX de Garlande, widow of AUBERT Seigneur de Marcy, daughter of [JEAN [III] de Garlande Seigneur de Possesse & his wife Agnes ---] (-after 1343). Her three marriages are confirmed by a document of the Parlement de Paris dated 4 Jan 1337 which records that “les héritiers et exécuteurs testamentaires de Dreu de Roye chevalier” were ordered to guarantee “Rogue sire de Hangest chevalier et Aubert son fils écuyer” relating to claims against “[les] fidéjusseurs d’Aubert de Narcy chevalier, mort avant d’avoir exécuté les engagements qu’il avait contractés conjointement avec son frère Pierre envers le roi de Bohème”, noting that “ces charges avaient été transmises par la veuve d’Aubert de Narcy à son second mari Dreu de Roye” after whose death she had married “en troisièmes noces Rogue de Hangest, tandis que sa fille se mariait avec Aubert fils de Rogue”[973]. Père Anselme names her as daughter of Jean [II] de Garlande Seigneur de Possesse[974]. However, given the likely birth dates of her children by her second husband shown below, this suggestion seems impossible if the birth date of Jean [II]’s wife is correctly estimated to [1240/51]. It seems more likely that Alix was the daughter of Jean [III]. This is the solution adopted by Europäische Stammtafeln, although the relevant table ignores her first two marriages[975]. She married thirdly ([1334?]) as his second wife, Roricon Seigneur de Hangest. An order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1343 relates to the claim by “Rogue sire de Hangest, chr, mari d’Alix de Possesse, veuve en première noces d’Aubert de Marcy, et en secondes noces de Dreu de Roye” against “Gilles, châtelain de Douai, chr, et Colard, châtelain de Beauvais, écr, et leurs femmes, filles et héritières de feu Dreu de Roye, chr”[976]. Dreux & his wife had three children (the precise dates of birth of these children are difficult to determine, although their births in the mid-1320s/early 1330s seem probable given the marriage of their mother’s daughter by her first marriage to her third husband’s son in the mid-1330s):

a) MARGUERITE de Roye (-bur Beauvais Jacobins). Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, and place of burial[977]. [Goethals records that Marguerite married firstly “Jean, sire de Chastillon-sur-Marne, grand-maître de France, mort en 1363, dont elle fut la quatrième femme”[978], which chronologically seems impossible.] An order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1343 relates to the claim by “Rogue sire de Hangest, chr, mari d’Alix de Possesse, veuve en première noces d’Aubert de Marcy, et en secondes noces de Dreu de Roye” against “Gilles, châtelain de Douai, chr, et Colard, châtelain de Beauvais, écr, et leurs femmes, filles et héritières de feu Dreu de Roye, chr”[979]. m (before 1342) COLART Châtelain de Beauvais, son of GUILLAUME [III] “le Velu” Châtelain de Beauvais & his wife Jeanne d’Estouteville (after 1311-after 1351, bur Beauvais Jacobins).

b) MARIE de Roye (-[before 1343?]). Père Anselme records her parentage (without naming her) and marriage, and information about her husband and their possible descendants[980]. She and her husband are not named in the 1343 order cited under her sisters, suggesting that Marie may have been deceased at the time, and that she died childless. m ENGUERRAND de Quieret Seigneur de Fransu, Amiral de France, son of --- (-after Jan 1358).

c) JEANNE de Roye ([1325/28?]-before 11 Sep 1376). Père Anselme records her parentage (without naming her) and her marriage to “Gilles Chastelain de Douay” (no sources cited)[981]. An order of the Parlement de Paris dated 1343 relates to the claim by “Rogue sire de Hangest, chr, mari d’Alix de Possesse, veuve en première noces d’Aubert de Marcy, et en secondes noces de Dreu de Roye” against “Gilles, châtelain de Douai, chr, et Colard, châtelain de Beauvais, écr, et leurs femmes, filles et héritières de feu Dreu de Roye, chr”[982]. Her name is confirmed as Jeanne by the 4 Jun 1360 document cited below. Goethals names “Jacqueline” as daughter of Dreux de Roye, records a first marriage to “Pierre de Broc, chevalier, gouverneur de Lille”, and her second to “Gilles châtelain de Douai” (no sources cited)[983]. [The supposed first marriage with “Pierre de Broc” appears impossible chronologically. Goethals’s suggestion may have been based on Lainé who records “Pierre de Broc, chevalier, cadet de cette maison…gouverneur…du bailliage de Lille”, citing sources dated between 1304 and 1314 in which he was named, and names his second wife “Jacqueline de Roye” (no source cited)[984]. Assuming that Lainé correctly identified the Pierre de Broc in question, the dates indicate that his wife could not have been the daughter of Dreux de Roye. This suggestion does not exclude the possibility of an earlier “Jacqueline de Roye” who married Pierre de Broc.] Leuridan records that “Gilles II, chevalier, châtelain de Douai et seigneur de Wasquehal” married “Jacqueline ou Jeanne de Roye, fille de Dreux, sire de Germigny, laquelle se serait remariée à un sire d’Escornaix”[985]. Brassart records that “[Gilles II] paraît avoir épousé Jacqueline de Roye, fille de Dreux, sire de Germigny”, not mentioning “Jeanne” as her possible name[986]. The explanation for the alternative name “Jacqueline” has not been found. Jeanne’s name, her Roye origin, her connection with the Douai family, and her second Gavre-Escornaix marriage are confirmed by the following document (which does not specifically say that she was the widow of Gilles [II], although the reference to her dower suggests that this was the case): Jean Châtelain de Douai transferred rights in “la terre de Wasquehal-paroisse et de la seigneurie de Wasquehal-La Marque”, against which “le douaire de Jeanne de Roye” was secured, to “noble homme Mons. Descornay, à cause du douwaire que Medame Jehane de Roie, sa femme, a oudit lieu” by charter dated 4 Jun 1360[987] (DuLong and Bunot note that the original document could no longer be found in the Archives Départementales du Nord[988]). Butkens names “Ienne de Roye 1339” as the wife of “Arnou Sire d’Escornaix” (no source cited, no parents of Jeanne named, Butkens does not name Raoul)[989]. The date “1339” is impossible: presumably it refers to the last mention of Arnaud [II] de Gavre-Escornaix (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY). Jeanne’s second husband is named in the following document, which also names his deceased wife and their son: a return of fiefs in the county of Beaumont-sur-Oise, dated 11 Sep 1376, includes “Aveu de Renouval (près Ronquerolles) [=Renoval, a Roye property, see below], baillé par Jean de Silly, prêtre” as proxy for “Raoul de Gavres, chevalier, seigneur d’Esternay, ayant la garde et administration d’Arnoul de Gavres, écuyer, son fils et de défunte Jeanne de Roye”[990]. The Roye family origin of Raoul’s wife is confirmed by a plaque commemorating her granddaughter Marguerite de Gavre Abbess of Nevele Sint-Geertruid which displays her ancestral arms: Gavre d’Escornaix/Gistel [her parents], Roye [paternal grandmother], Dudzeele [maternal grandmother][991]. In addition, DuLong and Bunot argue cogently that Jeanne was the daughter of Dreux de Roye, based on the Roye fiefs listed in the 11 May 1416 testament of her son Arnaud [VI] de Gavre-Escornaix, which include Remaugies and Fayel (previously held by the daughters of Jeanne’s older sister Marguerite, presumably inherited by Jeanne’s descendants when Marguerite’s line became extinct) and Maurecourt (previously held by Dreux’s brother Pierre who, according to Père Anselme, died childless)[992]. Jeanne is named as deceased in the 11 Sep 1376 document cited above. m firstly (before 1343) [as his second wife?] GILLES [II] Châtelain de Douai, son of GILLES [I] Châtelain de Douai & his wife Florence Le Flamenc de Canny (-[1355]). m secondly ([1355/4 Jun 1360]) RAOUL de Gavre Seigneur d’Escornaix, son of --- (-after 11 Sep 1376, before 1384?).

7. MARIE de Roye (-23 Dec [1345]). Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, naming her husband “Simon de Poissy” (no sources cited)[993]. The necrology of Joyenval records the death “23 Dec...circa 1345“ of "dominæ Mariæ de Roya dominæ de Boulers et domini Joannis de Pisciaco militis eiusdem filii” and their donation of annual revenue “in portu de Domibus”[994]. m [SIMON] de Poissy, son of ---.

The following reconstruction of later generations of this family is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking to other families studied in Medieval Lands. The information has not been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated.

MATHIEU de Roye, son of MATHIEU [I] Seigneur de Roye & his wife Alix --- (-after 1350). Seigneur de Plessier-de-Roye.

m (1328) MARGUERITE de Ville, daughter of ---. Père Anselme names her “Marguerite de Ville...mariée en 1328” without citing the source which confirms the information[995]. Goethals names her “Marguerite de Ville, issue des seigneurs de Ville-sur-Illon”[996]. The primary source which confirms the name and parentage of Mathieu’s wife has not been identified.

Mathieu & his wife had children:

1. MATHIEU de Roye dit le Flament (-Jan 1380, bur Longpont). Seigneur de Plessier-de-Roye. Seigneur d’Aunoy, de iure uxoris. Maître des Arbalestriers de France. m (1350) JEANNE de Chérisy Dame de Muret, daughter of JEAN Seigneur de Chérisy et de Muret, Vicomte de Busancy & his wife Peronne [Peronnelle] de Nesle (-after 1391). Père Anselme records that Mathieu de Roye agreed the succession of her father with her sister’s husband “Robert de Lannoy seigneur d’Hallencourt” 20 Apr 1358 and acquired from him “les terres de Busancy et d’Aunoy, provenant de ces successions” 29 May 1361[997]. Père Anselme records that Jeanne divided her properties with her children in 1381[998]. Mathieu & his wife had children:

a) JEAN de Roye (-Nikopolis [Sep] 1396). Seigneur d’Aunoy et de Muret. m firstly JEANNE de Béthune, daughter of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Vendeuil & his first wife Jeanne de Coucy (-1380). A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints”, adding that in 1373 his father died leaving two sons and two daughters one of whom married “messire I. de Roye”[999]. A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that they left two daughters of whom “una Maria et altera Ioanna”, Jeanne marrying “defuncto Ioanni de Roya domino de Alneto et de Mureto”[1000]. m secondly (after 1380) as her first husband, ALEAUME Châtelaine de Bergues, daughter of --- Châtelain de Bergues & his wife Sibylle van Gavre. She married secondly Raoul Seigneur de Gaucourt. Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages (no sources cited)[1001]. Jean & his first wife had children:

i) MATHIEU de Roye (-after 1440, bur Ourscamp). Seigneur d’Aunoy et de Muret. Seigneur de Roye, de Germigny. Vicomte de Busancy.

- see below.

ii) JEANNE de Roye (-1434, bur Fressin). Père Anselme records her parentage, marriage, date of death, and place of burial[1002]. Dame d’Espourdin. m (contract 27 Apr 1395) JEAN [IV] Seigneur de Créquy, son of JEAN [III] Seigneur de Créquy & his wife --- (-30 Nov 1411, bur Fressin).

Jean & his second wife had one child:

iii) JEANNE de Roye ). Père Anselme records her parentage and two marriages (no sources cited)[1003]. m (1409) AUBERT de Hangest Seigneur d’Arzillières, son of RORICON de Hangest Seigneur de Blaise et de Vavincourt & his second wife Catherine d’Arzillières.

b) GUY de Roye (-8 Jun 1409). Gallia Christiana records the appointment as bishop of Verdun in 1375 of “Guido parentibus Matthæo II domino Roiæ, Franciæ balistarum præfecto, et Johanna de Cherisi Mureti domina...Noiviomensis...canonicus, decanus sancti Quintini Veromanduensis et Avenione in aula pontificia Rotæ auditor”[1004]. Bishop of Verdun 1375, abdicated 1379. Archbishop of Soissons 1385. Archbishop of Tours 1388. Archbishop of Sens. Archbishop of Reims 1390.

c) BEATRIX de Roye (-17 Dec 1388, bur Longpont). Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, her date of death and place of burial[1005]. m JEAN [III] Vidame de Châlons, Seigneur de Bazoches et de Vauserée, son of JEAN [II] Vidame de Châlons, Seigneur de Bazoches & his wife Jeanne de Pommolain (-1406).

2. DREUX de Roye (-after 1391). Père Anselme records his parentage, noting sources dated 1338, 1356, 1383, 1386 and 1391 in which he was named (no source citations)[1006]. Seigneur de Cangy.

3. JEAN de Roye (-before 24 Dec 1401). Père Anselme records his parentage, noting sources dated 1352, 1364, 1368, 1377, 1396, 1398, and 1401 in which he was named (no source citations)[1007]. Seigneur de Laigny-lès-Chasteigners near Noyon. He was named as deceased in his wife’s 24 Dec 1401 charter quoted below. Considering the date of his parents’ marriage, Jean would have been old when he married (his children are named as minors in the 24 Dec 1401 charter). Could there be a missing generation in his line of descent, with a second Jean, his son, being the husband of Jeanne de Sains? m as her first husband, JEANNE de Sains, daughter of --- (-after 18 Nov 1423). "Jehenne de Sains dame de Lagny veuue de feu…Jean de Roye dit le Baudrin chevalier…en son vivant seigneur dudit Lagny”, in her name “comme ayant le bail...de Jean de Roye, damoiselle Ysabel et Guillemette de Roye enfans mineurs de mondit feu seigneur et mari et de moy” swore allegiance to the bishop of Noyon for Laigny by charter dated 24 Dec 1401[1008]. Père Anselme notes that she brought “la terre de Laigny et celles de Savilly, de Bethencourt, d’Esquevilly, et les bois de la Poterie” to her husband “en 1398” [presumably well after their marriage, considering her daughter’s marriage dated] and records that she married secondly “Hugues de Sapignies” (no sources cited)[1009]. A document dated 18 Nov 1423 records a claim by "Ioanna de Sains domina de Laigniaco” against “milite Petro de Montemorenciaco domino de Plessiaco Cacheleu et Maria de Quinquempoyo eius uxore”[1010]. Jean & his wife had three children:

a) JEAN de Roye (-before 1414). "Jehenne de Sains dame de Lagny veuue de feu…Jean de Roye dit le Baudrin chevalier…en son vivant seigneur dudit Lagny”, in her name “comme ayant le bail...de Jean de Roye, damoiselle Ysabel et Guillemette de Roye enfans mineurs de mondit feu seigneur et mari et de moy” swore allegiance to the bishop of Noyon for Laigny by charter dated 24 Dec 1401[1011]. Seigneur de Cangy, de Meillancourt et de Laigny (part). m MARIE de Châtillon, daughter of JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Dours & his second wife Beatrix de Châteauvillain (-after 1423). Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, noting that she was living in 1423 (no sources cited)[1012]. Jean & his wife had one child:

i) AUBERT de Roye (-after 1438). Père Anselme records his parentage, noting that he was living in 1438 and died unmarried (no sources cited)[1013].

b) JACQUELINE de Roye . "Jehenne de Sains dame de Lagny veuue de feu…Jean de Roye dit le Baudrin chevalier…en son vivant seigneur dudit Lagny”, in her name “comme ayant le bail...de Jean de Roye, damoiselle Ysabel et Guillemette de Roye enfans mineurs de mondit feu seigneur et mari et de moy” swore allegiance to the bishop of Noyon for Laigny by charter dated 24 Dec 1401[1014]. Père Anselme records her marriage in 1403 (no source cited)[1015]. m (1403) RENAUD du Sauchoy, son of ---.

c) GUILLEMETTE de Roye (-after 24 Dec 1401). "Jehenne de Sains dame de Lagny veuue de feu…Jean de Roye dit le Baudrin chevalier…en son vivant seigneur dudit Lagny”, in her name “comme ayant le bail...de Jean de Roye, damoiselle Ysabel et Guillemette de Roye enfans mineurs de mondit feu seigneur et mari et de moy” swore allegiance to the bishop of Noyon for Laigny by charter dated 24 Dec 1401[1016].

4. MARIE de Roye . Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage “avant 1337” (no sources cited)[1017]. m (before 1337) ROBERT Seigneur de Clary dit Fauvel, son of ---.

MATHIEU de Roye, son of JEAN de Roye Seigneur d’Aunoy et de Muret & his first wife Jeanne de Béthune (-after 1440, bur Ourscamp). Seigneur d’Aunoy et de Muret. Seigneur de Roye, de Germigny. The 15 Sep 1418 charter cited below indicates that Mathieu was captured by the English, maybe at the battle of Azincourt. “Monsegneur Mahieu...de Roye...et madame Catherine de Montmorency sa feme” and “monsegneur Robrt d’Estouteville seignr d’Aussebost et madame Marie de Sainte-Beuve sa feme fille de Cath. dame de Roye” sold land at La Ferté-Imbault to Marie de Sainte-Beuve, inherited by Catherine from “madame Jehanne de Harcourt de son vivant dame desd lieux et mère d’icelle dame de Roye et --- de monsegneur Jehan de Montmorency, seigneur de Beaussault et de Bretheuil”, by charter dated 24 Sep 14--[1018]. He is named as deceased in his second wife’s 2 Sep 1444 charter.

m firstly (after 1397) as her second husband, MARGARETA van Gistel, widow of GILBERT [IV] Heer van Leeuwergem, daughter of JAN [VI] Heer van Gistel & his first wife Margareta van Reigaarsvliet (-[15 Sep 1418/1424]). Balthau records her parentage and first marriage[1019]. “Jeanne de Béthune contesse de Marle et de Soissons” paid “nos...oncle et tante messire Mahieu Seigneur de Roye et dame Marguerite de Guistelle sa femme” for his ransom for release from England, as an advance for the marriage of “Marguerite de Roye nostre cousine sa fille”, by charter dated 15 Sep 1418[1020]. Limburg-Stirum assumes that Margareta was born from her father’s first marriage [hence the payment] but the possibility of her birth from her father’s second marriage cannot be excluded[1021].

m secondly ([1424]) as her second husband, CATHERINE de Montmorency Dame de Beausault, widow of LAURENT Seigneur de Sainte-Beuve, daughter of JACQUES de Montmorency Seigneur de Beausault, de Breteuil et de la Falaise & his wife Jeanne d’Harcourt (-after 5 Jun 1455). A document dated 4 Feb 1423 (O.S.) records "monseigneur de Beaussault par la main de...Madame de Sainte Boeve sereur de mondit seigneur...à cause de la maladerie dudit Bretheul, dont j’ay de present l’administration et gouvernement” receiving payments[1022]. The date of her second marriage is indicated in the 22 Feb 1454 (O.S.) charter cited below. “Monsegneur Mahieu...de Roye...et madame Catherine de Montmorency sa feme” and “monsegneur Robrt d’Estouteville seignr d’Aussebost et madame Marie de Sainte-Beuve sa feme fille de Cath. dame de Roye” sold land at La Ferté-Imbault to Marie de Sainte-Beuve, inherited by Catherine from “madame Jehanne de Harcourt de son vivant dame desd lieux et mère d’icelle dame de Roye et --- de monsegneur Jehan de Montmorency, seigneur de Beaussault et de Bretheuil”, by charter dated 24 Sep 14--[1023]. A document dated 2 Sep 1444 records a claim by "Katharina de Montemorenciaco defuncti Mathei quondam militis et domini de Roya relicta” against “Guidonem de Roye” concerning her dower[1024]. A document dated 10 Apr 1450 (O.S.) records a claim by "Katherina de Montemorenciaco defuncti Mathei de Roye dum viveret militis relicta” against “Waleranum de Suessione ad causam Margaretæ de Roye eius uxoris, dicti defuncti et Ioannæ de Guistelles primæ uxoris suæ filiæ” concerning half the harvest from “terrarum d’Espaigny et du Blé aux Connins”[1025]. A document dated 22 Feb 1454 (O.S.) records a claim by "Colardus dominus de Moy et de Chin et Margareta d’Arly eius uxor” against “Guidonem de Roya filum defuncti Matheir de Roya...[et] Catherinam de Montemorianciaco...relictam et Ioannem de Roya ipsorum defuncti et relictæ filium” concerning their marriage “circa A.D. 1424”[1026]. The testament of Catherine, dated 5 Jun 1455, names Antoinette d'Estouteville her grand-daughter, “Jehannet de Roye mon filz”, and an illegitimate daughter of her son[1027].

Mathieu & his first wife had four children:

1. GUY de Roye (-[27 Jul/20 Aug] 1463). Seigneur de Roye et de Muret. A document dated 2 Sep 1444 records a claim by "Katharina de Montemorenciaco defuncti Mathei quondam militis et domini de Roya relicta” against “Guidonem de Roye” [a document dated 7 Sep 1446 specifying that he was “filium et heredem dicti defuncti Mathei de Roya...cum Marguareta de Guistella”] concerning her dower[1028]. A document dated 22 Feb 1454 (O.S.) records a claim by "Colardus dominus de Moy et de Chin et Margareta d’Arly eius uxor” against “Guidonem de Roya filum defuncti Matheir de Roya...[et] Catherinam de Montemorianciaco...relictam et Ioannem de Roya ipsorum defuncti et relictæ filium” concerning their marriage “circa A.D. 1424”[1029]. m (Jan 1448) JEANNE de Mailly, daughter of FERRY de Mailly Seigneur de Talmas & his wife Marie de Breban Dame de Rueil-sur-Marne et d’Arcy-le-Ponsart (-after 1490). She married secondly Eustache de Bousies Seigneur de Wertaing, de Fouilloy et de Blairemghien.

2. MARGUERITE de Roye (-after 10 Apr 1451). Duchesne records her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[1030]. “Jeanne de Béthune contesse de Marle et de Soissons” paid “nos...oncle et tante messire Mahieu Seigneur de Roye et dame Marguerite de Guistelle sa femme” for his ransom for release from England, as an advance for the marriage of “Marguerite de Roye nostre cousine sa fille”, by charter dated 15 Sep 1418[1031]. A document dated 10 Apr 1450 (O.S.) records a claim by "Katherina de Montemorenciaco defuncti Mathei de Roye dum viveret militis relicta” against “Waleranum de Suessione ad causam Margaretæ de Roye eius uxoris, dicti defuncti et Ioannæ de Guistelles primæ uxoris suæ filiæ” concerning half the harvest from “terrarum d’Espaigny et du Blé aux Connins”[1032]. The testament [date not deciphered] of “Marie de Roye femme et épouse de noble et puissant monseigneur Pierre d'Orgemont chevalier seigneur de Montgeay et de Chantilly” names “Marguerite de Roye sa sœur femme de monseigneur de Moreuil” and “Isabelle de Roye aussi sa sœur”[1033]. m WALERAN de Soissons Seigneur de Moreuil, son of --- (-1464).

3. MARIE de Roye (-16 Sep 1470, bur Senlis Cordeliers). Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[1034]. Dame de Guievry, de Quincy, de Béthencourt, de Sacy-le-Grand, de Longeau et de Villers près Cathenoy. The testament [date not deciphered] of “Marie de Roye femme et épouse de noble et puissant monseigneur Pierre d'Orgemont chevalier seigneur de Montgeay et de Chantilly” names “Marguerite de Roye sa sœur femme de monseigneur de Moreuil” and “Isabelle de Roye aussi sa sœur”[1035]. Père Anselme records her date of death and place of burial[1036]. m (contract 11 Nov 1422) PIERRE [III] d’Orgemont Seigneur de Chantilly, de Montjay et de Lisy-sur-Ourcq, son of PIERRE [II] d’Orgemont Seigneur de Chantilly, de Montjay et de Lisy-sur-Ourcq & his wife Jacqueline Paynell (-1492). [Père Anselme records her supposed second marriage with Robert d’Estouteville Seigneur de Berneval[1037]. This suggested marriage appears impossible considering the date of her marriage contract noted above and the death of her husband Pierre.]

4. ISABELLE de Roye ([1400/05?]-[after [1463/64?]). The testament [date not deciphered, presumably after 1463 as the testator does not name her brother, before 1464 when “monseigneur de Moreuil” died] of “Marie de Roye femme et épouse de noble et puissant monseigneur Pierre d'Orgemont chevalier seigneur de Montgeay et de Chantilly” names “Marguerite de Roye sa sœur femme de monseigneur de Moreuil” and “Isabelle de Roye aussi sa sœur”[1038]. [Betrothed (?) to FILIP [VIII] Heer van Maldegem, son of FILIP [VII] Heer van Maldegem & his first wife Marguerite d’Halluin ([1395?]-[1433]). De Vlaminck records that Filip [VIII] married firstly “Isabeau de Roye, fille aînée de Mathieu, seigneur de Roye, de Germigny, etc. et de Marguerite de Ghistelles” (no source cited)[1039]. This indication appears inconsistent with the dating of Isabelle’s sister’s testament suggested above. Presumably it is possible that Filip [VIII] was betrothed to Isabelle, the contract being terminated before the marriage proceeded.]

Mathieu & his second wife had one child:

5. JEAN de Roye (-before 1489). A document dated 22 Feb 1454 (O.S.) records a claim by "Colardus dominus de Moy et de Chin et Margareta d’Arly eius uxor” against “Guidonem de Roya filum defuncti Matheir de Roya...[et] Catherinam de Montemorianciaco...relictam et Ioannem de Roya ipsorum defuncti et relictæ filium” concerning their marriage “circa A.D. 1424”[1040]. The testament of Catherine, dated 5 Jun 1455, names Antoinette d'Estouteville her grand-daughter, “Jehannet de Roye” her son, and an illegitimate daughter of her son[1041]. Seigneur de Busancy. Seigneur de Roye. m firstly BLANCHE de Brosse, daughter of JEAN [I] de Brosse Seigneur de Sainte-Sévère, Maréchal de France & his wife Jeanne de Naillac Dame de la Motte-Jolivet. m secondly as her first husband, MARGUERITE du Bois Dame de Barlin, daughter of JEAN du Bois Seigneur de Querdes & his first wife Catherine de Caumesnil. She married secondly Olivier de la Vernade Seigneur de la Bastie. Jean & his first wife had one child:

a) MARIE de Roye (-1480, bur Bethlehem-lèz-Mézières). m PHILIPPE bâtard de Nevers Seigneur de Rosoy, legitimated son of JEAN de Bourgogne Comte de Nevers & his mistress Margareta van Gistel (-Cloister Bethlehem-lèz-Mézières 1522, bur Bethlehem-lèz-Mézières).

Jean & his second wife had two children:

b) ANTOINE de Roye ([before 1470?]-killed in battle near Marignano 13 Sep 1515, bur Muret). Père Anselme records Antoine as his father’s son by his second marriage, noting that he was emancipated 5 Oct 1489 and pleaded against the seigneurs de Sainte-Maure et de la Heuse in 1491 and 1492[1042]. According to Goethals, Jean’s first wife was Antoine’s mother[1043]. The apparent age difference between Antoine and his [half-]sister Marie suggests that Père Anselme is more likely to be correct. The question will be decided definitively when the chronology of Jean’s second marriage becomes clearer. Seigneur de Roye. m (5 Nov 1505) CATHERINE de Commercy, daughter of ROBERT [III] de Commercy Seigneur de Commercy, Comte de Roucy et de Braine & his wife Marie d’Amboise (-8 Jan 1542). Dame de Commercy et de Pierrepont 1525. Antoine & his wife had children:

i) CHARLES de Roye (14 Jan 1510-Plessier de Roye 19 Jan 1551). Seigneur de Roye. Comte de Roucy. m (contract 27 Aug 1528) MADELEINE de Mailly, daughter of FERRY de Mailly Seigneur de Conti & his wife Louise de Montmorency (-1567, bur Muret). Charles & his wife had children:

(a) CHARLES de Roye ([1529/32]-before 1551). Goethals says that Charles died aged 18[1044].

(b) ELEONORE de Roye (24 Feb 1535-Château de Condé en Brie 23 Jul 1564, bur Muret en Picardie). Dame de Roye, de Conti, de Muret, de Breteuil, et de Busancy. m (Château du Plessier-le-Roye 22 Jun 1551) as his first wife, LOUIS de Bourbon Seigneur de Condé, son of CHARLES de Bourbon Duc de Vendôme & his wife Françoise d'Alençon (Château de Vendôme 7 May 1530-killed in battle Jarnac 13 Mar 1569, bur Valléry). Marquis de Conti, 1553. Prince de Condé, before 15 Jan 1557. Comte de Soissons 1557. Duc d’Enghien 1567.

(c) CHARLOTTE de Roye (Muret 1537-before 15 Nov 1572). Comtesse de Roucy, Dame de Pierrepont. m (contract 31 May 1557) as his second wife, FRANÇOIS [III] Comte de la Rochefoucauld, son of FRANÇOIS [II] Comte de la Rochefoucauld & his wife Anne de Polignac Dame de Randon (-murdered Paris 24 Aug 1572).

c) FLORENT de Roye (-after 1550). Seigneur de Germigny, d’Epigny et de Muret (part). m JOHANNA van Gistel, daughter of ---.

- SEIGNEURS d’EPIGNY, COMTES de ROYE, HEREN van BINKHORST[1045].

J. CHÂTELAINS de ROYE

1. GUERRY (-after 1102). Châtelain de Roye. "Dominus Royensis castellanus...Werrico" and "domine Odote uxor eius...Oda" donated “apud Sempigniacum” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Petri filii sui”, by charter dated 1102[1046]. m ODA, daughter of --- (-after 1102). "Dominus Royensis castellanus...Werrico" and "domine Odote uxor eius...Oda" donated “apud Sempigniacum” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Petri filii sui”, by charter dated 1102[1047]. Guerry & his wife had one child:

a) PIERRE . "Dominus Royensis castellanus...Werrico" and "domine Odote uxor eius...Oda" donated “apud Sempigniacum” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Petri filii sui”, by charter dated 1102[1048].

1. ERMENTRUDE (after 1201). Châtelaine de Roye. Dame de Laigny. “Willelmus de Merloto” donated property by charter dated 1172, which names “uxor domini Willelmi Ermentrudis et filii eorundem Rainaldus, Petrus, Drogo et filie Agnes et Beatrix, et Rainaldus frater predicti Willelmi”[1049]. "Nos duo domini Bullarum…Willaumus de Meloto, Ermentrudis uxor mea et Renaldus filius meus…Robertus de Conteio alius dominus Bullarum et mei nepotes Manasserus et Johannes" granted a communal charter to the town of Bulles in 1181[1050]. "Guillelmus Buglensis oppidi dominus et Roye castellanus" confirmed the donation of land “de feudo meo ex parte Hermentrudis uxoris mee” made by "miles Macharius" to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxoris mee et liberorum meorum...Rainaldi, Petri et Guillelmi et Agnetis filie mee, et Avitie”, by undated charter[1051]. “Guillelmus de Merloto, uxor eius Ermentrudis et liberi eorum Rainaldus, Petrus, Guillelmus et Manasses” made donations to Froidmont by charter dated 1190[1052]. "Willelmus dominus de Melloco" donated "terram arabilem de Lacheni" to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Ermentrudis uxor mea...Rainaldus filius meus...Willelmus et Manasses filii mei”, by charter dated 1197[1053]. "Ermentrudis Roie castellana et domina de Lagniaco" donated her rights "in territorio Sempigniaci" to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “mariti mei Johannis de Crapoutmaisnil”, by charter dated 1201, which refers in the title to “concessio domini Rainaldi de Melloto filie dicte G” (which does not appear in the body of the text)[1054]. m firstly ([1165]) GUILLAUME Seigneur de Mello, son of DREUX [II] Seigneur de Mello & his wife --- de Bulles ([1130/35]-1201). m secondly (1201) JEAN de Crapeaumesnil, son of ---.

K. SEIGNEURS de TRIE

DREUX de Chaumont, son of GALON [II] Vicomte de Chaumont & his wife --- (-after 1099). "Drogo filius Walonis de Calvomonte" confirmed a donation of property to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise by "Willelmus qui agnominabatur Aculeius", with the consent of his unnamed wife and sons, by charter dated to after 1099[1055]. He joined the First Crusade and became a monk at Saint-Germer after 1099[1056].

m --- (-after 1099). The name of Dreux's wife is not known. However, the charter dated to after 1099 under which "Drogo filius Walonis de Calvomonte" confirmed a donation of property to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise by "Willelmus qui agnominabatur Aculeius", with the consent of his unnamed wife and sons[1057], together with the name "Aiguillon" attributed to the couple’s third son, suggests that she may have been the daughter of Guillaume "Aiguillon".

Dreux & his wife had three children:

1. ENGUERRAND [I] de Chaumont (-killed in battle 1119, bur Saint-Germer). After the death of "Drogoni filii Gualonis et uxoris eius et filiorum suorum Ingelranni atque Gualonis", "filius eiusdem Drogonis, Guillelmus Aculeus", to whom the whole inheritance had devolved, renounced the donation to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise by his father, by charter dated to after 1119[1058].

2. GALON [IV] de Chaumont (-killed in battle [1118/19]). After the death of "Drogoni filii Gualonis et uxoris eius et filiorum suorum Ingelranni atque Gualonis", "filius eiusdem Drogonis, Guillelmus Aculeus", to whom the whole inheritance had devolved, renounced the donation to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise by his father, by charter dated to after 1119[1059]. Chevalier de Trie.

3. GUILLAUME [II] "Aiguillon" de Chaumont (-[1147]). After the death of "Drogoni filii Gualonis et uxoris eius et filiorum suorum Ingelranni atque Gualonis", "filius eiusdem Drogonis, Guillelmus Aculeus", to whom the whole inheritance had devolved, renounced the donation to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise by his father, by charter dated to after 1119[1060]. The History of Louis VII King of France names "…Willermus Aguillon de Tria…" among those who accompanied King Louis VII on crusade in 1147[1061]. m MARGUERITE de Gisors, daughter of PAYEN de Gisors & his wife Mathilde --- (-1147). "Margarita uxor Willelmi Aculeii de Treja" donated property to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise on her deathbed, with the advice of "fratris sui Theobaudi de Gisortio" for the soul of "viri sui Willelmi", and in the presence of "frater eius Theobaldus et quatuor filiæ suæ Oda…et Ydonea et Adelaidis et Mathildis" by charter dated 1147, which specifies that "Ingelramnus filius" was not present because "Theobaldus avunculus eius" prevented him[1062]. Guillaume [II] & his wife had five children:

a) ODA (-after 1147). "…quatuor filiæ suæ Oda…et Ydonea et Adelaidis et Mathildis" were present for the donation by "Margarita uxor Willelmi Aculeii de Treja" to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise on her deathbed, by charter dated 1147[1063].

b) IDOINE (-after 1147). "…quatuor filiæ suæ Oda…et Ydonea et Adelaidis et Mathildis" were present for the donation by "Margarita uxor Willelmi Aculeii de Treja" to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise on her deathbed, by charter dated 1147[1064].

c) ADELAIDE (-after 1147). "…quatuor filiæ suæ Oda…et Ydonea et Adelaidis et Mathildis" were present for the donation by "Margarita uxor Willelmi Aculeii de Treja" to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise on her deathbed, by charter dated 1147[1065].

d) MATHILDE (-after 1147). "…quatuor filiæ suæ Oda…et Ydonea et Adelaidis et Mathildis" were present for the donation by "Margarita uxor Willelmi Aculeii de Treja" to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise on her deathbed, by charter dated 1147[1066].

e) ENGUERRAND [II] "Aiguillon" de Trie (-after 1175). The charter dated 1147 under which "Margarita uxor Willelmi Aculeii de Treja" donated property to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise on her deathbed specifies that "Ingelramnus filius" was not present because "Theobaldus avunculus eius" prevented him[1067]. "Engelrannus Aculeus de Tria" donated property to Mortemer Sainte-Marie, with the consent of "Heddiva uxore mea et Wilelmo filio meo et Margareta", by charter dated 13 Dec 1169[1068]. Seigneur de Moncy 1169. “Johannes de Gisortio” exchanged a donation to Pontoise Saint-Martin made by “matrem meam dominam Mathildam de Gisortio”, for the souls of “Hugonis de Gisortio patris mei et venerabilis Dne Mathildis matris meæ”, by charter dated 1175, witnessed by “Dnus Engelramnus Aculeus cognatus meus germanus, Domnus Galo de Calvomonte sororius meus...”[1069]. m (after 1161) as her second husband, HEDDIVA [Basilie] de Moncy, widow of NIVELON [IV] de Pierrefonds, daughter of DREUX [II] de Moncy & his wife Basilie ---. The History of Louis VII King of France records that "Nivilo de Petrafonte et Drogo de Merloto" had married "duas filias Drogonis de Monceio"[1070]. The History of Louis VII King of France records that "uxorem cujus" married "Ingerrano de Tria" after the death of "Nivilo"[1071]. "Engelrannus Aculeus de Tria" donated property to Mortemer Sainte-Marie, with the consent of "Heddiva uxore mea et Wilelmo filio meo et Margareta", by charter dated 13 Dec 1169[1072]. Enguerrand [II] & his wife had six children:

i) GUILLAUME . "Engelrannus Aculeus de Tria" donated property to Mortemer Sainte-Marie, with the consent of "Heddiva uxore mea et Wilelmo filio meo et Margareta", by charter dated 13 Dec 1169[1073].

ii) MARGUERITE . "Engelrannus Aculeus de Tria" donated property to Mortemer Sainte-Marie, with the consent of "Heddiva uxore mea et Wilelmo filio meo et Margareta", by charter dated 13 Dec 1169[1074].

iii) JEAN [I] (-1237). "Johannes de Tria" confirmed the donation to Valle Sainte-Marie made by "dominus Engerranus pater meus" with the consent of "meo et Petri fratris mei" by charter dated 1190[1075]. Châtelain de Trie.

- COMTES de DAMMARTIN.

iv) PIERRE . "Johannes de Tria" confirmed the donation to Valle Sainte-Marie made by "dominus Engerranus pater meus" with the consent of "meo et Petri fratris mei" by charter dated 1190[1076].

v) GUILLAUME .

vi) ELISABETH (-10 Feb after 1219). m (before 1187) GUY [IV] de Senlis, son of GUY [III] de Senlis Seigenur de Chantilly & his wife Marguerite de Clermont (-before end-1221).

A charter dated 14 Mar 1214 (O.S.) lists the knights from Vermandois who fought at Bouvines, including “...Raoul d’Estrées...Gaultier d’Heilly... Gautier d’Avesnes et son frère Ason...”[1077]. “Radulphus de Estrées miles” exchanged property with Longpré priory, with the consent of “Margarete uxoris mee…et Johannis filii mei”, by charter dated Feb 1225 (O.S.?)[1078].

[1] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLIII, p. 170.

[2] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[3] Paris Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Tome I, LII, p. 82.

[4] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 657.

[5] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[6] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 69 footnote 40.

[7] Montiérender, 33, p. 162.

[8] Amiens, I, 5, p. 9, and Anne de France (1825), XV, p. 34.

[9] Molesme, Tome II, 14, p. 21.

[10] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[11] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.

[12] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.

[13] Molesme, Tome II, 14, p. 21.

[14] Molesme, Tome II, 14, p. 21.

[15] ES III 657.

[16] Anne de France (1825), p. 30.

[17] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 10, MGH SS IX, p. 388.

[18] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1052, MGH SS XXIII, p. 789.

[19] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 66.

[20] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 11, MGH SS IX, p. 389.

[21] Amiens, Tome I, 5, p. 9, and Anne de France XV, p. 34.

[22] Montiérender 33, p. 162.

[23] Molesme, Tome II, 14, p. 21.

[24] Montiérender 33, p. 162.

[25] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[26] Amiens, Tome I, 5, p. 9, and Anne de France XV, p. 34.

[27] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 11, MGH SS IX, p. 390.

[28] Vita Simonis Comitis Crespeienses 7, MGH SS XV.2, p. 905, and Houts (2000), p. 198.

[29] Molesme, Tome II, 14, p. 21.

[30] Cluny, Tome IV, 3499, p. 613.

[31] Houts (2000), p. 185.

[32] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, p. 459.

[33] Vita Simonis Comitis Crespeienses 7, MGH SS XV.2, p. 905.

[34] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, Book V, p. 115, the editor in footnote 1 highlighting that elsewhere Orderic referred to Alfonso as "Hildefonsus" and the possibility that the king of Galicia in question was in fact Alfonso's brother García.

[35] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1076, MGH SS XXIII, p. 798.

[36] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[37] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.

[38] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.

[39] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[40] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.

[41] Montiérender, 52, p. 178.

[42] Cluny, Tome IV, 3517, p. 633.

[43] Troyes Necrologies, 4 Obituaire de Saint-Loup, p. 342.

[44] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.

[45] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.

[46] Chartres Saint-Père I, Cap. XLVIII, p. 175.

[47] Chartres Saint-Père I, Cap. XLVIII, p. 175.

[48] Kerrebrouck (2000), pp. 543-4.

[49] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[50] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, IV, p. 480.

[51] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XXXIV, p. 70.

[52] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 543.

[53] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1196, p. 420.

[54] Assuming his two younger children, cited as minors in 1250, were less than 15 years old at the time.

[55] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 544.

[56] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 544.

[57] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 544.

[58] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 543.

[59] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 543.

[60] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 543.

[61] RHGF, Tome XVI, CXXII, p. 189.

[62] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 543.

[63] Chartres Saint-Père I, Cap. LXXIV, p. 199.

[64] Prou (1908), XCII, p. 236.

[65] Prou (1908), XCIV, p. 242.

[66] Père Anselme, Tome IV, p. 467.

[67] Pontoise Saint-Martin, Appendice, p. 440.

[68] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 350, quoting Neustria Pia, pp. 482-3.

[69] William of Tyre I.XVII, p. 45.

[70] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXIII, p. 316.

[71] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XLII, p. 332.

[72] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Octavus, Cap. XV, p. 240.

[73] Saint-Martin de Pontoise XXIII, p. 20.

[74] Depoin (1904), IV Sur les maisons de Chaumont et de Trie, I. Vicomtes de Chaumont, p. 352, quoting Chroniques de St. Germer, Mss. lat. 13899, Histoire de St. Germer, fol. 426.

[75] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, p. 131.

[76] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, X, XII, pp. 114 and 131.

[77] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber X, p. 23.

[78] Saint-Martin de Pontoise LV, p. 49.

[79] Luchaire (1890), Textes inédits, 275, p. 335.

[80] Luchaire (1890), Textes inédits, 574, p. 342.

[81] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 177, citing Bornet Cartul. de S. Germer, I, 461.

[82] Pontoise Saint-Martin CLXXVII, p. 140.

[83] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 51, p. 23.

[84] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 51, p. 23.

[85] ES III 645.

[86] Leblond (1910), 1 p. 178, citing Titres de S. Germer (no precise citation reference).

[87] Neustria Pia, p. 491.

[88] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 51, p. 23.

[89] Leblond (1910), 1 p. 178, citing Arch. nat. K 191, no. 73.

[90] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Archives de l’Oise, Auneuil, H 1413, Bornet Cartulaire de S. Germer, II, 154.

[91] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 178, citing Arch. nat. K 191, no. 73.

[92] Leblond (1912), 2, p. 454, quoting Archives de l’Oise, Inv. Froidmont, II, 378-9.

[93] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 178, citing Arch. nat. K 191, no. 73.

[94] Set out in outline form in ES III 645, extinct after 1327 in the male line.

[95] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Archives de l’Oise, Auneuil, H 1413, Bornet Cartulaire de S. Germer, II, 154.

[96] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Titres de S. Barthélemy de Beauvais (no precise citation reference).

[97] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Archives de l’Oise, Auneuil, H 1413, Bornet Cartulaire de S. Germer, II, 154.

[98] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Arch. nat. K 191.

[99] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Arch. nat. K 191.

[100] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Arch. nat. K 191.

[101] Leblond (1910), 1, p. 179, citing Arch. nat. K 191.

[102] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XII, p. 133.

[103] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 368, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fol. cccxix, ii 31.

[104] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 369.

[105] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 369.

[106] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XII, p. 133.

[107] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber X, V, p. 23.

[108] Chartres Saint-Père II, LIV, p. 510.

[109] Chartres Saint-Père II, X, p. 630.

[110] Lasteyrie, R. de (1887) Cartulaire générale de Paris (Paris), Tome I, 161, p. 185.

[111] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 371, citing Archives de l’Eure, H 711, fol. cvi-cxi.

[112] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XXIV, p. 640.

[113] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Saint-Père-enVallée, p. 194.

[114] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XII, p. 133.

[115] Chartres Saint-Père II, LIV, p. 510.

[116] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XII, p. 133.

[117] Chartres Saint-Père II, LIV, p. 510.

[118] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 249.

[119] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XXIV, p. 640.

[120] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. V, Liber XIII, XXXII, p. 89.

[121] Pontoise Saint-Martin, CXVII, p. 91.

[122] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XXIII, p. 638.

[123] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[124] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Saint-Père-enVallée, p. 193.

[125] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. V, Liber XIII, XXXII, p. 89.

[126] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[127] Pontoise Saint-Martin, pp. 376-7, citing Cartulaire A de St Germer (perdu), fol. 462, analyse de D. Villevieille, mss. fr. 31911, fol. 7.

[128] Pontoise Saint-Martin, pp. 376-7, citing Cartulaire A de St Germer (perdu), fol. 462, analyse de D. Villevieille, mss. fr. 31911, fol. 7.

[129] Pontoise Saint-Martin, pp. 376-7, citing Cartulaire A de St Germer (perdu), fol. 462, analyse de D. Villevieille, mss. fr. 31911, fol. 7.

[130] Pontoise Saint-Martin, pp. 376-7, citing Cartulaire A de St Germer (perdu), fol. 462, analyse de D. Villevieille, mss. fr. 31911, fol. 7.

[131] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[132] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[133] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[134] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[135] Chartres Saint-Père, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, XLIV, p. 652.

[136] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 374, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxxxix.

[137] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 374, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxxxviii.

[138] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 374, no citation reference.

[139] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 77, p. 624.

[140] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 374, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxlvii.

[141] Pontoise Saint-Martin, pp. 376-7, citing Cartulaire A de St Germer (perdu), fol. 462, analyse de D. Villevieille, mss. fr. 31911, fol. 7.

[142] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 66.

[143] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 72.

[144] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 66.

[145] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 72.

[146] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 77.

[147] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 66.

[148] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 66.

[149] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting Cartulaire de Beaulieu, p. 338, N. a. l. 1408.

[150] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 72.

[151] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting Cartulaire de Beaulieu, p. 338, N. a. l. 1408.

[152] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 72.

[153] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 374, no citation reference.

[154] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 77, p. 624.

[155] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 374, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxlvii.

[156] Pontoise Saint-Martin, pp. 376-7, citing Cartulaire A de St Germer (perdu), fol. 462, analyse de D. Villevieille, mss. fr. 31911, fol. 7.

[157] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 376, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxxxviii.

[158] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 376, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxxxviii.

[159] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 376, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxxxviii.

[160] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 66.

[161] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 72.

[162] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 77.

[163] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting Mss. fr. 27201, fol. 114.

[164] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 77.

[165] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting Mss. fr. 27201, fol. 114.

[166] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting A. N. K 191, no. 77.

[167] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 377, quoting Mss. fr. 27201, fol. 114.

[168] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes II, 2382, p. 291.

[169] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 379, quoting mss. fr. 27201 fol. 110.

[170] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 380, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxlv.

[171] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 380, quoting Levrier, XIV, 1078.

[172] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 379, quoting mss. fr. 27201 fol. 110.

[173] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 380, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. ccxlv.

[174] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 380, quoting Grand Cartulaire de Saint-Wandrille, fo. cx.

[175] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, pp. 886-95.

[176] Pontoise Saint-Martin, p. 379, quoting mss. fr. 27201 fol. 110.

[177] Sinclair (1985), p. 42.

[178] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[179] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[180] Settipani (1993), p. 220.

[181] Annales Vedastini 896, MGH SS II, p. 530. .

[182] Settipani (1993), p. 407.

[183] Nicholas (1992), p. 19.

[184] Settipani (1993), p. 408, citing Depoin, J. 'Etudes préparatoires à l'histoire des familles palatines. III. Thibaud le Tricheur fut-il bâtard et mourut-il presque centenaire?', Revue des etudes historiques (1908), p. 595 and footnote 105.

[185] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274.

[186] Settipani (1993), p. 227 footnote 265.

[187] Pécheur (1851), p. 47, citing "Charte de Raoul évêque de Laon, Lelong, N. Hist. du diocèse de Laon, p. 598".

[188] Settipani (1993), p. 236.

[189] Bucilly, Introduction.

[190] Hugonis Floriacensis, Historia Francorum Senonensis, MGH SS IX, p. 366.

[191] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber II, XXI, p. 233.

[192] Settipani (1993), p. 407.

[193] Settipani (1993), p. 407, citing Werner, K. F. (1967) 'Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen bis um Jahr 1000 (1.-8. Generation)' Karl der Große, IV, p. 458.

[194] Jackman (1997), pp. 36 and 38.

[195] Jackman (1997), p. 38.

[196] Flodoard 946, MGH SS III, p. 393.

[197] Jackman (1997), p. 38.

[198] Flodoard 923, MGH SS III, p. 372.

[199] Settipani (1993), p. 224.

[200] Annals of Flodoard of Reims, quoted in Houts (2000), p. 45.

[201] McKitterick (1983), p. 312.

[202] Flodoard 928, MGH SS III, p. 378.

[203] Flodoard 933, MGH SS III, p. 381.

[204] McKitterick (1983), p. 312.

[205] Flodoard 943, MGH SS III, p. 389.

[206] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 273.

[207] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 920 and 988, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 756 and 774.

[208] Flodoard 944, MGH SS III, p. 390.

[209] Diplôme de Charles III, n^o 57, Lauer, quoted in Settipani (1993), p. 407.

[210] Flodoard 928, MGH SS III, p. 378.

[211] Settipani (1993), p. 226.

[212] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 303.

[213] Flodoard 946, MGH SS III, p. 393.

[214] Nicholas (1992), p. 40.

[215] Gand Saint-Pierre 22, p. 28.

[216] Gand Saint-Pierre 23, p. 29.

[217] Annales Blandinienses 960, MGH SS V, p. 25.

[218] Flodoard 951 and 952, MGH SS III, p. 401.

[219] Settipani (1993), p. 229, citing Werner, K. F. (1967) 'Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen bis um das Jahr 1000 (1-8 Generation)', Karl der Große, IV, pp. 403-83.

[220] Settipani (1993), p. 229, citing Bur, M. (1977) La formation du comte de Champagne, vers 950 - vers 1150 (Lille), p. 509.

[221] Gerbert 17, p. 13.

[222] Gerbert 59, p. 58.

[223] Gerbert 97, p. 89.

[224] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 989, MGH SS XXIII, p. 775.

[225] Birth date range estimated from the birth of Eadgifu's son in [920/21].

[226] Flodoard 951, MGH SS III, p. 401.

[227] Flodoard 940, MGH SS III, p. 387.

[228] Annales Remenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 81.

[229] Annales Remenses 932, MGH SS XIII, p. 82.

[230] Flodoard 940, MGH SS III, p. 387.

[231] Flodoard 948, MGH SS III, p. 395.

[232] Flodoard 949, MGH SS III, p. 399.

[233] Flodoard 962, MGH SS III, p. 405.

[234] Settipani (1993), p. 227.

[235] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum III.39, p. 165.

[236] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber III, III, p. 234.

[237] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 9, MGH SS IX, p. 387.

[238] Chartres Saint-Père, Liber Primus, 130, p. 351.

[239] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Tertius, Cap. VIII, p. 63.

[240] Arbois de Jubainville (1859), Tome I, p. 461.

[241] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Tertius, Cap. XVIII, p. 77.

[242] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Nécrologe du xi siècle, p. 23.

[243] Cluny, Tome I, 511, p. 496.

[244] Flodoard 949, MGH SS III, p. 399.

[245] Dormay (1664), Vol. II, Livre V, Chap. I, p. 3.

[246] RHGF, Tome IX, XXIV, p. 634.

[247] RHGF, Tome IX, XLI, p. 654.

[248] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta, col. 359.

[249] Gerbert, 40, p. 38.

[250] Flodoard 949, MGH SS III, p. 399.

[251] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 47.

[252] Settipani (1993), p. 236.

[253] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.

[254] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 47, citing "Charte de Raoul évêque de Laon, Lelong, N. Hist. du diocèse de Laon, p. 598".

[255] Settipani (1993), p. 236.

[256] Bucilly, Introduction, p. .

[257] Bucilly I, p. 113, footnote 3 stating "Cette charte est reproduite in-extenso dans le Dictionnaire historique des communes de l'Aisne, de M. Melleville, tome I, p. 167" (which has not so far been consulted), although it is not known whether this refers to the original foundation charter or the charter dated 1120.

[258] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.

[259] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.

[260] Settipani (1993), p. 238 footnote 344, quoting Newman, W. M., Constable, G. and Evergates, T. (1990) The cartulary and charters of Notre-Dame of Homblières (Cambridge), p. 78, 13 Jan-13 Oct 1045.

[261] Petit (1885), Vol. II, p. 425, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 371.

[262] Settipani (1993), p. 237 footnote 336.

[263] Petit, Vol. II, p. 430, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 371.

[264] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne, p. 161, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 372.

[265] Bouchard (1987), p. 372.

[266] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium III.23, MGH SS 7, p. 473.

[267] Settipani (1993), p. 237 footnote 343, citing Glocker, W. Die Verwandten der Ottonen und ihre Bedeutung in der Politik. Studien zur Familienpolitik und zur Genealogie der sächsischen Kaiserhauses (Köln, Vienna, 1989).

[268] Gesta Episcorum Cameracensium I.96, MGH SS VII, p. 439.

[269] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.

[270] Settipani (1993), p. 241, citing Lot, F. (1891) Les derniers Carolingiens, Lothaire, Louis V, Charles de Lorraine (Paris), p. 65.

[271] Historia Monasterii Mosomensis, 1.6 and 1.7, MGH SS XIV pp. 604 and 605.

[272] MGH SS XIV, p. 605 footnote 1.

[273] Historia Monasterii Mosomensis, 2.1, MGH SS XIV, p. 609.

[274] Gerbert 94, p. 86.

[275] Settipani (1993), p. 241.

[276] Settipani (1993), p. 241.

[277] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.

[278] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 51.

[279] Settipani (1993), p. 238 footnote 344, quoting Newman, W. M., Constable, G. and Evergates, T. (1990) The cartulary and charters of Notre-Dame of Homblières (Cambridge), p. 78, 13 Jan-13 Oct 1045.

[280] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 317.

[281] Settipani (1993), p. 238 footnote 344, quoting Newman, W. M., Constable, G. and Evergates, T. (1990) The cartulary and charters of Notre-Dame of Homblières (Cambridge), p. 78, 13 Jan-13 Oct 1045.

[282] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.

[283] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.

[284] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[285] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.

[286] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.

[287] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.

[288] Settipani (1993), p. 238 footnote 347.

[289] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.

[290] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 15, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[291] Kerrebrouck (2000), pp. 538 and 544 footnote 9.

[292] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.

[293] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 10, MGH SS IX, p. 389.

[294] William of Tyre I. XVII, p. 45.

[295] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber IX, I, p. 159.

[296] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, IX, p. 31, and Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 537.

[297] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, IV, p. 480.

[298] Anna Comnena, Book 10, p. 313.

[299] Runciman (1978), Vol. 1, pp. 142-4.

[300] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. VII-VIII, pp. 304-5.

[301] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. IX, p. 305.

[302] Runciman (1978), Vol. 1, p. 250.

[303] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1102, p. 124.

[304] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 27.

[305] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[306] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XXXIV, p. 70.

[307] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XXXV, p. 72.

[308] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 538.

[309] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.

[310] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[311] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome II, CCCCX, p. 169.

[312] Semoy Saint-Barthélemy, XIV, p. 13.

[313] Sainte-Croix d'Orléans V, p. 7.

[314] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.

[315] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[316] Lérins, CLXXIII, p. 173.

[317] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[318] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, LXXV, p. 42.

[319] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, LXXV, p. 42.

[320] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Saint-Martin des Champs, p. 425.

[321] Considered the latest possible birth date of Elisabeth considering the birth of her first two known children in 1104.

[322] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[323] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, IV, p. 480.

[324] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XL, p. 278.

[325] Caux Saint-Victor, II.1, p. 378.

[326] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[327] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[328] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[329] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XXXIV, p. 70.

[330] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis Continuatio 10, MGH SS XIV, p. 322.

[331] Sigeberti Continuatio Praemonstratensis 1121, MGH SS VI, p. 448.

[332] Saint-Bertin (Guérard) Pars Secunda, Liber II, CI, p. 295.

[333] Kerrebrouck (2000), pp. 538-9.

[334] Sigeberti Continuatio Praemonstratensis 1148, MGH SS VI, p. 453.

[335] ES III 55.

[336] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.

[337] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, VIII, p. 296.

[338] Esserent Saint-Leu, XLVI, p. 48.

[339] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.

[340] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, IV, p. 480.

[341] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1102, p. 124.

[342] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XXXIV, p. 70.

[343] Cluny, Tome V, 4070, p. 421.

[344] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1152, p. 263.

[345] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, p. 463.

[346] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 539.

[347] Kerrebrouck (2000), pp. 539-40.

[348] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.

[349] Historiæ Tornacenses IV.5, MGH SS XIV, p. 343.

[350] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1152, p. 263.

[351] Guillaume de Nangis, pp. 18 and 24.

[352] Saintes Notre-Dame, XXIX, p. 36.

[353] Flandria Generosa 32, MGH SS IX, p. 324.

[354] Annales Blandinienses 1157, MGH SS V, p. 29.

[355] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Bruxellensis), MGH SS IX, p. 325.

[356] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.

[357] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Bruxellensis), MGH SS IX, p. 325.

[358] Ex Radulfi de Diceto imaginibus historiarum, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 198.

[359] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis) 4, MGH SS IX, p. 327. The date "28 Mar" is inserted in the margin by the editor.

[360] Kerrebrouck (2000), pp. 106 and 542.

[361] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Bruxellensis), MGH SS IX, p. 325.

[362] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 541.

[363] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 541.

[364] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.

[365] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 509 and 514.

[366] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 20.

[367] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXLIX, p. 180.

[368] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXLVII, p. 149.

[369] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 540.

[370] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 320.

[371] Loisne, A. de (ed.) (1897) Le Cartulaire du chapitre d’Arras (Arras) ("Arras Chapitre") 113, p. 75.

[372] Arras Chapitre 113, p. 75.

[373] Arras Chapitre 113, p. 75.

[374] Arras Chapitre 113, p. 75.

[375] Arras Saint-Vaast, XII, p. 45.

[376] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 48, MGH SS XXIV, p. 585.

[377] Arras Chapitre 113, p. 75.

[378] Du Chesne, A. (1631) Preuves de l’Histoire des maisons de Guines, d’Ardres, Gand et Coucy (Paris) (“Du Chesne (1631), Guines, Preuves”), p. 353.

[379] Du Chesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383.

[380] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440.

[381] Saint Nicolas des Prés sous Ribemont, LXXI, p. 127.

[382] Du Chesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383.

[383] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 69.

[384] Du Chesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383.

[385] Saint-Genois, J. de (1782) Monumens Anciens (Lille), Tome I, p. 550.

[386] Du Chesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383.

[387] ES XIII 164.

[388] Du Chesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383.

[389] Brassart, F. (1877) Histoire du Château et de la Châtellenie de Douai, Preuves (Douai) (“Brassart (Douai) (1877) Preuves”), XLVIII, p. 66.

[390] Brassart (Douai) (1877) Preuves, LI, p. 70.

[391] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440.

[392] Saint Nicolas des Prés sous Ribemont, LXXI, p. 127.

[393] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 541.

[394] Saint Nicolas des Prés sous Ribemont, XXVIII, p. 64.

[395] Saint Nicolas des Prés sous Ribemont, XXXVIII, p. 74.

[396] Saint Nicolas des Prés sous Ribemont, LXXI, p. 127.

[397] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 541.

[398] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 541.

[399] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 598.

[400] Du Chesne (1631), Luxembourg, Preuves, p. 92.

[401] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 598.

[402] Favier (1965), 120, p. 260.

[403] Demay (1877), 1713, p. 184. I am grateful to Jean Bunot for providing a copy of this document.

[404] Demay (1877), 315, 455, 549, pp. 35, 50 and 59.

[405] Demay (1877), 214, 274, pp. 25, 33.

[406] Favier (1965), 120, p. 260.

[407] Caffiaux, Tome 1 (1777), p. 699.

[408] Demay (1877), 274-5, p. 33.

[409] Favier (1965), 116, p. 253.

[410] Combault Auteuil (1642), Tome 1, p. 582. I am grateful to Jean Bunot for providing the reference to this document.

[411] Favier (1965), 116, p. 253.

[412] Furgeot (1920), X/1a/7 1768, p. 316.

[413] Furgeot (1920), X/1a/6 66, p. 17. I am grateful to Jean Bunot for providing the reference to this document.

[414] Saint-Genois, J. de (1843-46) Inventaire analytique des chartes des comtes de Flandre (Gand), 1691, p. 476.

[415] Poull (1991), p. 92.

[416] Furgeot (1920), X/1a/6 66, p. 17. I am grateful to Jean Bunot for providing the reference to this document.

[417] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 12.

[418] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 40.

[419] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 41.

[420] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 44 and 46.

[421] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 54.

[422] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 56.

[423] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 51.

[424] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 52, citing RHGF, Tome XI, p. 509.

[425] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 54.

[426] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794.

[427] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[428] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.

[429] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 57.

[430] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[431] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 57.

[432] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[433] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 58, citing Histoire de Cambrai, tome 2, 3e partie, p. 707.

[434] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73.

[435] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 16.

[436] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.

[437] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 64, citing Lecarpentier, Histoire de Cambrai, preuves.

[438] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, pp. 461-2.

[439] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, p. 462 footnote 1.

[440] Duchesne (1624), p. 82.

[441] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 16.

[442] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.

[443] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 70, citing Carta Simonis Episcopi Noviomensis, de confirmatione allodii de Germania, Cartulaire de Prémontré, MS de la Bibliothèque de Soissons, titre Hanap.

[444] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.

[445] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[446] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.

[447] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209.

[448] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 10.

[449] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209.

[450] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 10.

[451] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 511.

[452] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 560.

[453] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 16.

[454] Reiffenberg (1844), Tome I, Cartulaires de Hainaut, XVI, p. 330.

[455] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[456] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 10.

[457] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 108.

[458] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 110.

[459] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 110.

[460] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 110.

[461] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 110.

[462] Pécheur Histoire de Guise, p. 110.

[463] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, VII, p. 7.

[464] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, VII, p. 7.

[465] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, pp. 461-2.

[466] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 6.

[467] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[468] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[469] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[470] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.

[471] Père Anselme, Tome I, pp. 54-.

[472] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 327.

[473] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 32.

[474] Prou (1908), p. cxcix footnote 2, citing Collection de Picardie, vol. 233. fol. 180.

[475] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.

[476] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 328 (no source citation).

[477] Prou (1908), p. cxcix footnote 2.

[478] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 328.

[479] Morel, E. (ed.) (1904) Cartulaire de l’abbaye de Saint-Corneille de Compiègne, Tome I (877-1216) (Mondidier) ("Compiègne Saint-Corneille"), XXVI, p. 57.

[480] Hémeré (1643), pp. 140-1.

[481] Hémeré (1643), pp. 140-1.

[482] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 328 (no source citation).

[483] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 328 (no source citation).

[484] Hémeré (1643), p. 160.

[485] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329, citing Archives de l’abbaye de Corbie, armoire 6 liasse 102, no. 2.

[486] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329, citing Archives de l’abbaye de Corbie, armoire 6 liasse 102, no. 2.

[487] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329, citing Archives de l’abbaye de Corbie, armoire 6 liasse 102, no. 2.

[488] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[489] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[490] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[491] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[492] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[493] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[494] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[495] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[496] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 332 (no source citation).

[497] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 182, p. 647.

[498] Delisle (1856), 1535, p. 350.

[499] Hémeré (1643), p. 141.

[500] Hémeré (1643), p. 141.

[501] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[502] Hémeré (1643), p. 141.

[503] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[504] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[505] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 329 (no source citation).

[506] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[507] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[508] Héronval, LXXXVII, p. 69

[509] Héronval, XCII, p. 74

[510] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[511] Héronval, LXXXVII, p. 69

[512] Héronval, XCII, p. 74

[513] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[514] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 337 (no source citation).

[515] Héronval, CI, p. 82

[516] Héronval, CII, p. 83

[517] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 338 (no source citation).

[518] Héronval, CI, p. 82

[519] Héronval, CII, p. 83

[520] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 338 (no source citation).

[521] Héronval, CIX, p. 96

[522] Héronval, CIX, p. 96

[523] Gomart ‘Les seigneurs de Ham’ (1861), p. 340, citing Arch. imp. Sect. adm. PP. 6. 1ère partie J 200, vo.

[524] Père Anselme, Tome VI, pp. 637-9.

[525] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888).

[526] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), pp. 25-6.

[527] Graves (1851), p. 151.

[528] Saint-Amand, VIII, p. 158.

[529] Saint-Amand, VIII, p. 158.

[530] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCXXI, p. 189.

[531] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 637 (no citation reference).

[532] Beauvillé (1857), Vol. 1, p. 103, quoting “Cartulaire de Philippe Auguste, Bibl. nat. 172”.

[533] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 637 (no citation reference).

[534] Graves (1851), pp. 151-2.

[535] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 637.

[536] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 9, citing “Dom Labbé, Notice Mondescourt”.

[537] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DLVI, p. 344.

[538] Barthélemy, E. de ‘Le Tournoi de Compiègne en 1238’, Le Vermandois (1873), p. 149.

[539] Graves (1851), pp. 151-2.

[540] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 563.

[541] Graves (1851), pp. 151-2.

[542] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 563.

[543] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 563.

[544] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 9, citing “Arch. Oise, G. 1984; Invent.Somm. p. 340”.

[545] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 9, citing “Arch. Oise, G. 1984; Invent.Somm. p. 340”.

[546] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCCXII, p. 490.

[547] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 12, citing “Arch. Oise, G. 580”.

[548] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXXIX, p. 561.

[549] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, Appendice, 2, p. 463.

[550] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXXXVI, p. 564.

[551] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, Appendice, 2, p. 463.

[552] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[553] Ourscamp Notre-Dame LX, p. 26.

[554] Chronique Artésienne (1899), p. 50.

[555] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[556] Richemond (1908), Vol. II, pp. 110 and 112 footnote 2.

[557] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[558] Brassart (Douai) (1877) p. 157.

[559] Brassart (Douai) (1877) p. 157.

[560] Brassart (Douai) (1877) p. 157.

[561] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[562] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[563] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[564] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 749.

[565] Beauvillé (1857), Vol. 1, p. 517.

[566] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 745.

[567] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 15, citing “P. Anselme; D. Labbé”. Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 745 records the claim but does not mention Mathieu’s involvement, while on p. 638 he does not mention the claim at all.

[568] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 749.

[569] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[570] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[571] Levasseur (1634), LXXVI, VIII, p. 998.

[572] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[573] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 81.

[574] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[575] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 639.

[576] Levasseur (1634), LXXVI, VIII, p. 998.

[577] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[578] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255, and Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 453.

[579] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 19, citing “Arch. Oise, II, 497”.

[580] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 639.

[581] Barante (1824), Tome III, p. 88.

[582] Père Anselme, Tome I, p. 207, and Tome VI, p. 639.

[583] Père Anselme, Tome I, p. 207.

[584] Barante (1824), Tome III, p. 88.

[585] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 26, citing “Arch. Oise, G. 444 bis et Fond de la sgie Varesnes, portef. Babœuf”.

[586] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 27.

[587] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[588] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 638.

[589] Duchesne (1631), Coucy, p. 289.

[590] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 16.

[591] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 789, no citation reference.

[592] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 790, no citation reference.

[593] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 789, no citation reference.

[594] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 790, no citation reference.

[595] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 790, no citation reference.

[596] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 790, no citation reference.

[597] Amiens, Tome I, 377, p. 429.

[598] Olim, Tome I, XVIII, p. 550.

[599] Leuridan (1874), Cartulaire, 132, p. 268.

[600] Olim, Tome I, V, p. 755, X, p. 855.

[601] Amiens, Tome I, 377, p. 429.

[602] Amiens, Tome I, 382, p. 434.

[603] Kervyn de Lettenhove (1879), Tome I, p. 252.

[604] Chronique Artésienne (1899), p. 50.

[605] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 791, no citation reference.

[606] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 791, no citation reference.

[607] Amiens, Tome I, 377, p. 429.

[608] Amiens, Tome I, 383, p. 435.

[609] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 793, no citation reference.

[610] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 11”.

[611] Moret, J. de (1704) Tomo tercero de los anales de Navarra (Pamplona), Libro XXV, Cap. II, 7, p. 249.

[612] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Bibl. nat., Collection de Picardie, t. 329, no. 1”.

[613] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, 1252, 1256, pp. 101, 105, p. 101, and La Roque (1662), Vol. IV, p. 1626.

[614] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 11...10”.

[615] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 2593, p. 252.

[616] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 11”.

[617] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301.

[618] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 6”.

[619] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 337.

[620] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 2850, p. 281.

[621] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 11”.

[622] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 11”.

[623] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 2850, p. 281.

[624] Olim, Tome I, I, p. 377.

[625] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 2959, p. 294.

[626] Boutaric (1867), Tome II, 3669, p. 63.

[627] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome V, p. 106, footnote 101 continued from p. 105, quoting “Arch. nat. S. 1588 B, no. 11”.

[628] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 2850, p. 281.

[629] Olim, Tome I, I, p. 377.

[630] Boutaric (1867), Tome II, 3669, p. 63.

[631] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 2850, p. 281.

[632] Boutaric (1867), Tome II, 3669, p. 63.

[633] Boutaric (1867), Tome II, 6256, p. 342.

[634] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 794, no citation reference.

[635] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 794, no citation reference.

[636] Morice (1744) Preuves, Tome II, col. 176.

[637] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 794, no citation reference.

[638] Morice (1744) Preuves, Tome II, col. 176.

[639] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 794, no citation reference.

[640] Buylaert (2011), p. 237, quoting “SAG, Reeks 301, nr. 1, fol. 16r”.

[641] Buylaert (2011), p. 237, quoting “SAG, Fonds Familiepapieren, nr. 800, fol. 105r”.

[642] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 795, no citation reference.

[643] Buylaert (2011), p. 438, quoting “ARA, Oorkonden van Vlaanderen, 1e reeks, no. 2040”.

[644] Buylaert (2011), p. 259.

[645] Le Grand ‘Mémoire sur l’ancienne ville de Ghistelles’, Annales de l’Académie d’Archeologie de Belgique, Tome XIV (Antrwerp, 1857), Pièces justificatives, p. 129.

[646] Buylaert (2011), p. 804.

[647] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 795, no citation reference.

[648] Buylaert (2011), p. 213.

[649] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 795, no citation reference.

[650] Goethals (1862), Tome II, pp. 795-842.

[651] Hémeré, C. (1643) Augusta Viromanduorum (Paris), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.

[652] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796.

[653] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.

[654] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796.

[655] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXII, p. 315.

[656] Père Anselme, Tome V, p. 10.

[657] Père Anselme, Tome V, p. 13.

[658] Amiens, I, 2, p. 5.

[659] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 16.

[660] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 16.

[661] Saint-Amand, II, p. 152.

[662] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCCXVIII, p. 253.

[663] Saint-Amand, III, p. 153.

[664] Saint-Amand, II, p. 152.

[665] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCCXVIII, p. 253.

[666] Saint-Amand, III, p. 153.

[667] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DXVII, p. 317.

[668] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCCXVIII, p. 253.

[669] Saint-Amand, III, p. 153.

[670] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCCXXXIV, p. 267.

[671] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCCXV, p. 252.

[672] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVI, p. 139.

[673] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVI, p. 139.

[674] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[675] Saint-Amand, XXVII, p. 177.

[676] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.

[677] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.

[678] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[679] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.

[680] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.

[681] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.

[682] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVI, p. 139.

[683] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[684] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVI, p. 139.

[685] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[686] Héronval, X, p. 15

[687] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[688] Héronval, X, p. 15

[689] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[690] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.

[691] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.

[692] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.

[693] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[694] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[695] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXV, p. 133.

[696] Héronval, XXXI, p. 29

[697] Saint-Amand, L, p. 200.

[698] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[699] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.

[700] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVIII, p. 140.

[701] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXI, p. 131.

[702] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIV, p. 143.

[703] Saint-Amand, LXXI, p. 217.

[704] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.

[705] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[706] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[707] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXV, p. 133.

[708] Héronval, XXXI, p. 29

[709] Saint-Amand, L, p. 200.

[710] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[711] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[712] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[713] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXV, p. 133.

[714] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[715] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.

[716] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVII, p. 140.

[717] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIII, p. 143.

[718] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIV, p. 143.

[719] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVIII, p. 140.

[720] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXX, p. 142.

[721] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 6ème Partie, p. 175.

[722] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[723] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[724] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[725] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[726] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.

[727] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIII, p. 143.

[728] Arbois de Jubainville (1863), Tome V, 2887, p. 438.

[729] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCX, p. 131.

[730] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCIX, p. 130.

[731] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 57, p. 58.

[732] Héronval, LXXIX, p. 61

[733] Guynemer (1912), Table following p. 36.

[734] Delisle (1867), 107, p. 34.

[735] Delisle (1867), 101, p. 33.

[736] Delisle (1867), 141, p. 42.

[737] Orval, CCCCLIX, p. 476.

[738] Thierry d’Orjo in an email to the author dated 12 Jun 2019, citing Sabourin, P. ‘Une Famille féodale...Montcornet’, Revue historique ardennaise, Tome 15 (1980), pp. 42, 50.

[739] Chartes du Clermontois, XX, p. 82.

[740] Delisle (1867), 82, p. 29.

[741] Delisle (1867), 52, p. 23.

[742] Arbois de Jubainville (1863), Tome V, 2887, p. 438.

[743] Delisle (1867), 87, p. 30.

[744] Delisle (1867), 107, p. 34.

[745] Héronval, LXXX, p. 63

[746] Héronval, LXXXIX, p. 71

[747] Saint-Amand, XCIII, p. 237.

[748] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIII, p. 132.

[749] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIV, p. 132.

[750] Foigny (1879), DXVII, p. 94.

[751] Héronval, LXXXIX, p. 71

[752] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIV, p. 132.

[753] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383.

[754] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385.

[755] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIV, p. 132.

[756] Foigny (1879), DXVII, p. 94.

[757] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 227, citing “Pet. Cart. fo 161”.

[758] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCXXVII, p. 445.

[759] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 200.

[760] ES XIII 154.

[761] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385.

[762] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385.

[763] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 563.

[764] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIII, p. 132.

[765] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 227, citing “Pet. Cart. fo 161”.

[766] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[767] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[768] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[769] Guynemer (1912) Les Chartes, p. 121, citing “Dom Bertheau, Bib. Nat. Ms. Lat. 13.891, fo. 146”

[770] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[771] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[772] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[773] Guynemer (1912) Les Chartes, p. 120, citing “Dom Bertheau, Bib. Nat. Ms. Lat. 13.891, fo. 146”

[774] Rembault (1861), p. 34.

[775] Leblond (1913), 3, p. 880, citing Cartulaire Froidmont, Bibl. nat. lat. 11001, fo. 67.

[776] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[777] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[778] Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis, MGH SS VIII, p. 528.

[779] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.

[780] Saint-Amand, LXXI, p. 217.

[781] Annales Sancti Vitoni Virdunensis, MGH SS VIII, p. 528.

[782] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[783] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.

[784] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIII, p. 143.

[785] Leblond (1912), 2, p. 733, citing Bornet Cartulaire de Beaupré, p. 406.

[786] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLXX, p. 467.

[787] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCVIII, p. 130.

[788] Saint-Amand, LXXXVI, p. 232.

[789] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 205, citing “Pet. Cart. fo. 228”.

[790] Leblond (1912), 2, p. 733, citing Bornet Cartulaire de Beaupré, p. 406.

[791] Douet-D’Arcq (1855), CLXV, p. 111.

[792] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 205, citing “Pet. Cart. fo. 228”.

[793] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[794] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.

[795] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1232, MGH SS XXIII, p. 930.

[796] Saint-Amand, LXXI, p. 217.

[797] Aegidii Aurævallensis Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium, Liber III, 105, MGH SS XXV, p. 128.

[798] Aegidii Aurævallensis Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium, Liber III, 105, MGH SS XXV, p. 128.

[799] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[800] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Appendice, 2, p. 463.

[801] Guynemer (1912) Les Chartes, p. 121, citing “Dom Bertheau, Bib. Nat. Ms. Lat. 13.891, fo. 146v”

[802] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.

[803] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.

[804] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.

[805] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.

[806] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXVII, p. 145.

[807] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIII, p. 143.

[808] Leblond (1912), 2, p. 733, citing Bornet Cartulaire de Beaupré, p. 406.

[809] Douet-D’Arcq (1855), CLXV, p. 111.

[810] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXII, p. 131.

[811] Depoin ‘Les comtes de Beaumont-sur-Oise’ (1915), p. 231.

[812] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXVII, p. 145.

[813] Leblond (1912), 2, p. 733, citing Bornet Cartulaire de Beaupré, p. 406.

[814] Douet-D’Arcq (1855), CLXV, p. 111.

[815] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXV, p. 551.

[816] Guynemer (1912) Les Chartes, p. 122, citing “Dom Bertheau, Bib. Nat. Ms. Lat. 13.891, fo. 91v”

[817] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMIX, p. 548.

[818] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 213, citing “Pet. Cart. fo. 254 et c. 736”.

[819] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXVII, p. 552.

[820] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMIX, p. 548.

[821] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 213, citing “Pet. Cart. fo. 254 et c. 736”.

[822] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DXLIV, DXLV, pp. 335-6.

[823] Guynemer (1912) Les Chartes, p. 124, citing “Ourscamp” [charter not found in the printed collection].

[824] Meyer, H. A. ‘Chartes données à la Bibliothèque nationale’, Bibliothèque de l’Ecole des Chartes, Tome LVII (1896), p. 711.

[825] Meyer, H. A. ‘Chartes données à la Bibliothèque nationale’, Bibliothèque de l’Ecole des Chartes, Tome LVII (1896), p. 711.

[826] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXVI, p. 552.

[827] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXVIII, p. 553.

[828] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 231, citing “Petit Cartulaire fo 154”.

[829] Meyer, H. A. ‘Chartes données à la Bibliothèque nationale’, Bibliothèque de l’Ecole des Chartes, Tome LVII (1896), p. 711.

[830] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 226, citing “c. 347” (document not found in the published Ourscamp cartulary).

[831] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CMXVI, p. 552.

[832] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 49.

[833] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 551.

[834] Peigné-Delacourt (1876), Vol. 1, p. 223, citing “Pet. Cart. fo. 109r et 109v”.

[835] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13.

[836] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13.

[837] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.

[838] Prou (1908), CLXXV, p. 425.

[839] Prou (1908), CLXXV, p. 425.

[840] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13.

[841] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.

[842] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 13.

[843] Prou (1908), CLXXV, p. 425.

[844] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XVIII, p. 44.

[845] Duchesne. (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13.

[846] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XVIII, p. 44.

[847] Duchesne (1639), Béthune, Preuves, p. 13.

[848] Prou (1908), CLXXV, p. 425.

[849] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 13.

[850] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 13.

[851] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 13.

[852] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 22.

[853] Duchesne (1639), Preuves, p. 13.

[854] Duchesne (1639), p. 95.

[855] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 80.

[856] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCV, p. 180.

[857] Amiens, I, 26, p. 35.

[858] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCV, p. 180.

[859] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCV, p. 180.

[860] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCV, p. 180.

[861] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCV, p. 180.

[862] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, IV, p. 5.

[863] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[864] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[865] Vander Haer (1611), p. 202.

[866] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[867] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 281.

[868] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 552.

[869] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[870] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[871] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[872] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 160.

[873] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 2.

[874] Hémeré (1643), p. 160.

[875] Héronval, I, p. 1.

[876] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XCV, p. 170.

[877] Héronval, V, p. 7.

[878] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXCVII, p. 176.

[879] Héronval, V, p. 7.

[880] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XCV, p. 170.

[881] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XCV, p. 170.

[882] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, XCV, p. 170.

[883] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXCVII, p. 176.

[884] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCVI, p. 181.

[885] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, CXCVIII, p. 299.

[886] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 6.

[887] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCCVI, p. 181.

[888] Compiègne Saint-Corneille, Tome I, CXCVIII, p. 299.

[889] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8, no citation reference.

[890] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 223, p. 656.

[891] Beauvillé (1857), Vol. 1, p. 103, quoting “Cartulaire de Philippe Auguste, Bibl. nat. 172”.

[892] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8, no source citation.

[893] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8.

[894] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437.

[895] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8.

[896] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 697.

[897] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8.

[898] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8.

[899] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 14.

[900] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 15.

[901] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8.

[902] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175.

[903] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176.

[904] Boutaric, Tome II (1867), 3776, p. 74.

[905] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178.

[906] Boutaric, Tome II (1867), 3721, p. 68.

[907] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176.

[908] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176.

[909] Boutaric, Tome II (1867), 6847, 7684, pp. 459, 598.

[910] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 400.

[911] Furgeot (1920), X/1a/6 49, p. 14.

[912] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 414, no citation reference.

[913] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176.

[914] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178.

[915] Olim, Tome I, XIV, p. 472.

[916] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Paroisse de Courville, p. 465.

[917] Marmoutier (Blésois), Tome I, CCCXXVII, p. 308.

[918] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de la Trinité de Vendôme, p. 201.

[919] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Paroisse de Courville, p. 464.

[920] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 223, p. 656.

[921] Beauvillé (1857), Vol. 1, p. 103, quoting “Cartulaire de Philippe Auguste, Bibl. nat. 172”.

[922] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCXIII, p. 438.

[923] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 285.

[924] Amiens Necrology, p. 292.

[925] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 285.

[926] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 296.

[927] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 302.

[928] Dugdale Monasticon III, Shrewsbury Abbey, XI, Genealogia Dominorum Bellismontium, p. 522.

[929] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome I, col. 1052.

[930] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 307.

[931] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 831.

[932] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 285.

[933] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 168.

[934] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 298.

[935] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 292.

[936] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 286.

[937] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 287.

[938] Barthélemy, E. de ‘Le Tournoi de Compiègne en 1238’, Le Vermandois (1873), p. 149.

[939] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 291.

[940] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 287.

[941] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1228, MGH SS XXIII, p. 922.

[942] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1240, MGH SS XXIII, p. 948.

[943] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 291.

[944] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 291.

[945] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCXII, p. 437.

[946] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 182, p. 647.

[947] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 223, p. 656.

[948] Beauvillé (1857), Vol. 1, p. 103, quoting “Cartulaire de Philippe Auguste, Bibl. nat. 172”.

[949] Boutaric, Tome I (1863), 505, p. 44.

[950] Boutaric, Tome I (1863), 581, p. 53.

[951] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8.

[952] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[953] Boutaric, Tome I (1863), 1098, 1126, 1242, 1355, 2067, 2464, 2530, 2552, pp. 101, 103, 112, 121, 190, 234, 240, 248.

[954] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[955] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[956] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[957] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[958] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[959] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[960] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[961] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[962] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 745, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[963] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[964] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 10.

[965] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 592, no citation reference.

[966] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 41 (but not at Tome VIII, p. 10).

[967] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[968] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 11.

[969] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 103.

[970] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[971] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 8.

[972] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, pp. 8-9.

[973] Furgeot (1920), X/1a/7 1829, p. 326.

[974] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 35.

[975] ES XIII 113.

[976] Furgeot, Tome II (1960), 4696, p. 8.

[977] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, pp. 9, 833.

[978] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 9.

[979] Furgeot, Tome II (1960), 4696, p. 8.

[980] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9, Tome VII, p. 753.

[981] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[982] Furgeot, Tome II (1960), 4696, p. 8.

[983] Goethals Dictionnaire, Tome IV (1852), no page numbers, 311/1200 in the digitalised copy, and Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 9.

[984] Lainé (1834), Tome IV, De Broc, pp. 4-5 [79/542 in the digitised copy].

[985] Leuridan ‘La Châtellenie de Lille - IV. Le Ferrain’ (1886), p. 337, citing “Archives du Nord, Chambre des Comptes, original”.

[986] Brassart (1877) Douai, pp. 161-2.

[987] Leuridan ‘La Châtellenie de Lille - IV. Le Ferrain’ (1886), pp. 337-8, citing “Archives du Nord, Chambre des Comptes, original”.

[988] DuLong & Bunot ‘Catherine de Baillon’s Roye Ancestry’ (Jan 2009), p. 11, footnote 32.

[989] Butkens (1724), Vol. II, p. 80.

[990] Chantilly. Les Archives - Le Cabinet des Titres, Tome IV (Paris, 1929), Série G E, VIII, Registres, 7 (113 D 26), F. 5, p. 222.

[991] DuLong & Bunot ‘Catherine de Baillon’s Roye Ancestry’ (Jan 2009), pp. 5-6, reproducing the plaque Figure 1

[992] DuLong & Bunot ‘Catherine de Baillon’s Roye Ancestry’ (Jan 2009), pp. 9-13.

[993] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 9.

[994] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 309.

[995] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[996] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 11.

[997] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 11.

[998] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 11.

[999] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219.

[1000] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219.

[1001] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 12.

[1002] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 780.

[1003] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 12.

[1004] Gallia Christiana, Tome XIII, col. 1227.

[1005] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 12.

[1006] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1007] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1008] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1009] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1010] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 364.

[1011] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1012] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 123, and Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1013] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1014] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1015] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1016] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1017] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 10.

[1018] Duchesne, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 305, consulted at <https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9001148s/f134.item.zoom> (19 Jan 2021). I am grateful to Philippe Couka for this information, sent by email 10 Dec 2020.

[1019] Balthau, E. ‘Robrecht van Massemen, heer van Massemen, Westrem, Hemelveerdegem, Beerlegem, Sint-Martens-Lierde, Sint-Maria-Lierde, Parike, Leeuwergem en Elene’, Zottegems Genootschap voor Geschiedenis en Oudheidkunde, Handelingen, VII (1995), p. 153, available at <https://www.academia.edu/3554900/Robrecht_van_Massemen_heer_van_Massemen_Westrem_Hemelveerdegem_Beerlegem_Sint_Martens_Lierde_Sint_Maria_Lierde_Parike_Leeuwergem_en_Elene> (22 Nov 2020).

[1020] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 225.

[1021] Limburg-Stirum (1868), p. 160.

[1022] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 359.

[1023] Duchesne, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 305 (see above for website address).

[1024] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 360.

[1025] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 360.

[1026] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1027] Duchesne 97bis, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 313, at <https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9001148s/f138> (16 Feb 2021).

[1028] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 360.

[1029] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1030] Duchesne (1624), p. 536.

[1031] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 225.

[1032] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 360.

[1033] Duchesne 97bis, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 410, at <https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9001148s/f184> (6 Feb 2021).

[1034] Duchesne (1624), p. 536.

[1035] Duchesne 97bis, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 410.

[1036] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 339, Tome VIII, pp. 13, 93.

[1037] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 339, Tome VIII, pp. 13, 93.

[1038] Duchesne 97bis, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 410.

[1039] De Vlaminck ‘Moerzeke’ (1896), p. 271

[1040] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 363.

[1041] Duchesne 97bis, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, p. 313.

[1042] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 13.

[1043] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 19.

[1044] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 20.

[1045] Goethals (1851) Roye, pp. 21-34.

[1046] Ourscamp Notre-Dame, CCXLIV, p. 148.

[1047] Ourscamp Notre-Dame, CCXLIV, p. 148.

[1048] Ourscamp Notre-Dame, CCXLIV, p. 148.

[1049] Malinguehen ‘Juvignies’ (1879), p. 318 [information provided by J.C. Chuat in a private email to the author dated 25 Oct 2011].

[1050] Lépinois (1877), p. 118 footnote 1, quoting Graves Statistique de Clermont, 60 à 72.

[1051] Ourscamp Notre-Dame, CCXLIII, p. 147.

[1052] Leblond (1912), 2, p. 451, citing Titres de Froidmont (no precise citation reference).

[1053] Ourscamp Notre-Dame, DCCLXXXVI, p. 476.

[1054] Ourscamp Notre-Dame, CCCXCVI, p. 239.

[1055] Saint-Martin de Pontoise XXIII, p. 20.

[1056] ES III 645.

[1057] Saint-Martin de Pontoise XXIII, p. 20.

[1058] Saint-Martin de Pontoise XXIV, p. 22.

[1059] Saint-Martin de Pontoise XXIV, p. 22.

[1060] Saint-Martin de Pontoise XXIV, p. 22.

[1061] Molinier (1887) De Glorioso Rege Ludovico, Ludovici filio, X, p. 158.

[1062] Saint-Martin de Pontoise CII, p. 80.

[1063] Saint-Martin de Pontoise CII, p. 80.

[1064] Saint-Martin de Pontoise CII, p. 80.

[1065] Saint-Martin de Pontoise CII, p. 80.

[1066] Saint-Martin de Pontoise CII, p. 80.

[1067] Saint-Martin de Pontoise CII, p. 80.

[1068] Saint-Martin de Pontoise, Appendice, p. 363, quoting Archives de l’Eure, H 653.

[1069] Pontoise Saint-Martin CLXXVII, p. 140.

[1070] Molinier (1887) De Glorioso Rege Ludovico, Ludovici filio, XIX, p. 167.

[1071] Molinier (1887) De Glorioso Rege Ludovico, Ludovici filio, XIX, p. 168.

[1072] Saint-Martin de Pontoise, Appendice, p. 363, quoting Archives de l’Eure, H 653.

[1073] Saint-Martin de Pontoise, Appendice, p. 363, quoting Archives de l’Eure, H 653.

[1074] Saint-Martin de Pontoise, Appendice, p. 363, quoting Archives de l’Eure, H 653.

[1075] Ségur-Lamoignon (1892), Pièces justificatives, VII.

[1076] Ségur-Lamoignon (1892), Pièces justificatives, VII.

[1077] Beauvillé (1857), Vol. 1, p. 103, quoting “Cartulaire de Philippe Auguste, Bibl. nat. 172”.

[1078] Beauvillé (1877), Part III, IV, p. 2.