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NORTHERN FRANCE

laon, coucy, roucy, soissons

 

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

 

 

Chapter 1.                LAON. 2

A.         COMTES de LAON.. 2

B.         VIDAMES de LAON.. 4

Chapter 2.                COUCY. 6

A.         SEIGNEURS de COUCY.. 6

B.         VICOMTES de COUCY.. 8

C.        SEIGNEURS de COUCY.. 9

D.        SEIGNEURS de COUCY (GUINES) 19

E.         SEIGNEURS de CRECY-sur-SERRE.. 24

F.         SEIGNEURS de MARLE.. 25

G.        VICOMTES de MEAUX.. 26

H.        SEIGNEURS de PINON.. 28

I.      SEIGNEURS de VERVINS (COUCY) 32

Chapter 3.                ROUCY. 37

A.         COMTES de ROUCY (ORIGINS) 37

B.         COMTES de ROUCY (MONTDIDIER) 45

C.        COMTES de ROUCY (PIERREPONT) 57

D.        SEIGNEURS de PIERREPONT. 66

Chapter 4.                SOISSONS. 74

A.         COMTES de SOISSONS.. 74

B.         COMTES de SOISSONS (NORMANDY) 77

C.        COMTES de SOISSONS (NESLE) 80

D.        SEIGNEURS de BAUDEMENT. 93

E.         SEIGNEURS de FALVY (NESLE) 100

 

 

 

This document groups noble families located to the north-west of the county of Champagne, situated in the south-eastern part of the area categorised as Northern France in Medieval Lands.  The area corresponds approximately to the central part of the present-day French département of Aisne. 

 

 

 

Chapter 1.    LAON

 

 

Laon is located north-west of Reims in the present-day French département of Aisne.  It was recorded briefly as a county in the late 9th and early 10th centuries.  In 931, the town and county were captured by Héribert [II] Comte de Vermandois, and for several decades became the focus of disputes between the kings of France, the counts of Vermandois, and the bishops of Laon. 

 

 

 

A.      COMTES de LAON

 

 

1.         ADELRAMN [II] [Aleran], son of [ADELRAMN [I] & his wife ---] (-14 Jul, after 885).  The primary source which names Adelramn [II] as the son of Adelramn [I] has not so far been identified.  Comte de Laon.  11 Oct 864.  879.  The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "II Id Jul" of "Alerannus comes"[1].  The necrology of Argenteuil Priory records the death "II Id Jul" of "Alerannus comes"[2]

a)         GAUTHIER .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.  Comte de Laonsame person as…?  WALCHER, son of --- (-after 892)Comte de Laon.  The Annales Vedastini record that "Balduinus" captured Artois, that King Eudes besieged the castle of Laon ("castrum Laudunensium") previously obtained "per tyrannidem" by "Walcherus, eius [Balduinus] consobrinus", and that peace was restored between Baudouin and Walcher through "Evrebertum"[3]

b)         other children - see CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY

 

 

1.         ROGER [I] (-926)Comte de Laon.  Flodoard records the death of "Rodulfus comes, filius Heilwidis" and "non multo post etiam Rotgarius, vitricus eius, comes Laudunensis pagi" in 926[4]m HELVIDE, daughter of ---.  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[5], she was Heilwig di Friulia, widow of Hucbald Comte [d'Ostrevant]. daughter of Eberhard Duke of the March of Friulia [Unruochingi] & his wife Gisela [Carolingian], although another table in Europäische Stammtafeln only names the wife of Comte Roger as "Helvide" but does not give her origin[6].  Her first marriage is proved by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "Hucbaldus de Hainacq" as "huius [=abbas Rodulfus] sororius"[7].  Comte Roger [I] & his wife had [two or more] children: 

a)         ROGER [II] (-942).  Flodoard records in 927 that Raoul King of France disputed "Laudunensi comitatu" with "Heribertum comitem" and that the king granted it to "cuidam filiorum Rotgarii…Rotgario"[8].  Flodoard records that Hugues "le Grand" captured "Duvagium" [Douai] from the Lotharingians and granted it to "Rotgario filio Rotgarii" in 931[9]Comte de Laon 926, expelled 931.  Flodoard records that "Arnulpho, filio Balduini" captured "Moritania, munitio filiorum Rotgarii" [Mortagne] in 931[10]Comte de Douai 931.  Flodoard records that "Rotgarius comes" was expelled by "rege Lodovico" and that "Duagium castellum" was returned to "Arnoldo" in 941 but that "Arnoldum cum Landrico fratre ipsius" were later expelled from the castle by the king[11]Comte de Bassigny 941.  m ---.  The primary source which confirms the identity of Roger’s wife has not been identified.  Comte Roger [II] & his wife had one child: 

i)          HUGUES (-25 Aug 961, bur Reims Saint-Rémi)Comte de Bassigny.  The necrology of Reims Saint-Rémi records the death "VIII Kal Sep" of "Hugo filius Rogeri comitis"[12]

-         COMTES de BASSIGNY

b)         son .  The existence of more than one son of Roger [I] is suggested by Flodoard who records that "Arnulpho, filio Balduini" captured "Moritania, munitio filiorum Rotgarii" [Mortagne] in 931[13]

 

 

 

B.      VIDAMES de LAON

 

 

1.         ELBERT (-after 1121).  Vidame de Laon.  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[14].  “...Eberti vicedomini Laudunensis...” signed the charter dated 1121 under which “Wido Lescheriensis et Guisiensis” granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau[15]m HELVIDE, daughter of --- (-before 1116).  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[16].  Elbert & his wife had three children: 

a)         GUILLAUME .  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[17]

b)         GISELE .  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[18]

c)         DODE .  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[19]

 

 

1.         PIERREVidame de Laon.  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[20]m ---.  The name of Pierre’s wife is not known.  Pierre & his wife had one child: 

a)         ADDO (-after 1116).  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[21]m ODELA, daughter of ---.  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[22]

 

2.         THOMAS .  Vidame [de Laon].  A charter dated 1129, under which Barthélemy Bishop of Laon excommunicated “Hugo comes Roceiensis”, records the presence of “milites: Ertandus qui in loco Hugonis comitis Roceiensis affuit...Thomas vicedominus...[23]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 2.    COUCY

 

 

A.      SEIGNEURS de COUCY

 

 

Coucy is located in the commune of Coucy-le-Château-Affrique, in the present-day French département of Aisne, south-east of the town of Chauny and due west of Laon.  It is likely that the domaine of Coucy was founded in the early 10th century, probably by Hérivée archbishop of Reims (in office from 900 to 922) although no primary source which confirms this speculation has been identified.  During the first half of the 10th century, possession of Coucy was disputed between the archbishop and other regional comital families as demonstrated by the following extracts from Flodoard:

  • In 927, Raoul King of France, during the course of his disputes with "Heribertum comitem" [Héribert [II] Comte de Vermandois], returned to Burgundy at one point and left "Lauduni" [Laon] in the hands of "Rotgarii filiis cum uxore sua" ["Rotgarii filiis" identified as the sons of Roger [I] Comte de Laon] who destroyed "circa Codiacum, episcopii Remensis castrum" [Coucy][24]
  • In 930, "Heribertus" granted "Codiciacum" to "Ansellum Bosonis vasallum" who held "Victoriacum"[25]
  • In 950, "Tetbaldum comitem" [Thibaut [I] "le Tricheur" Comte de Blois] was granted "castri Codiaci" but was later expelled "a Codiciaco"[26]
  • In 958, "fideles Artoldi præsulis" [Artaud Archbishop of Reims] recaptured "castrum Codiciacum" from "Harduinus subiectus Tetbaldi", but in 964 that "Odelricus Remensis archiepiscopus" excommunicated "Tetbaldum…propter castrum Codiciacum"[27], implying that Comte Thibaut [I] had retaken the castle. 

From these passages, we therefore learn that:

  • Coucy was originally the fief of the archbishopric of Reims. 
  • it was presumably occupied in the mid-920s by Héribert [I] Comte de Vermandois, and attacked, but not captured, by Roger [II] Comte de Laon and his brother(s) on behalf of the French king. 
  • Comte Héribert appointed Anseau as his vicomte or châtelain at Coucy in 930. 
  • Thibaut [I] Comte de Blois held Coucy for a brief period in the 950s. 
  • Coucy was recaptured by the archbishop of Reims in 958, but attacked and maybe retaken by Comte Thibaut [I] in the early 960s. 

 

Apart from the reference to Anseau in 930, no mention has been found of any seigneur or vicomte de Coucy until the late 1050s, when Aubry Seigneur de Coucy and Guillaume Vicomte de Coucy are named in the sources.  It is unclear how jurisdiction over Coucy was split between the vicomte and the seigneur.  No further reference to a vicomte de Coucy has been found after 1057.  Some time in the 1080s, Aubry lost his seigneurie to Enguerrrand [I] Seigneur de Boves Comte d’Amiens, the second husband of Ada de Marle who had been Aubry’s first wife.  This transmission of Coucy suggests that the domaine may have been Ada’s dowry, possibly inherited from her mother about whom nothing is known apart from her name.  After the descendants of Enguerrand [I] lost the county of Amiens, they retained Coucy which was one of their principle remaining territorial holdings (see Part C). 

 

 

Two siblings: 

1.         AUBRY (-after 1088).  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[28], he was Aubry, son of Ives [I] Comte de Beaumont & his wife Emma ---.  The primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified, and no indication has been found that it is correct.  The names Aubry and Foulques are not otherwise present in the family of the Comtes de Beaumont-sur-Oise and no indication has been found that Aubry held any property or position in the county.  Until further information comes to light, it is suggested that this supposed connection should be treated with caution.  Seigneur de Coucy 1059/79.  Elinand Bishop of Laon donations made by "Albricus de Cociaco castro…cum uxore sua Adela et matre eius Malthilde" by charter dated 3 Nov 1059[29].  "…Albrici de Cociaco…" witnessed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the rights of the abbey of Saint-Médard de Soissons[30].  Tardif quotes six charters dated between 1066 and 1079 in which "Albricus de Cociaco" is named[31]Philippe I King of France confirmed the foundation of the abbey of Saint-Jean des Vignes de Soissons by charter dated 1076, witnessed by Tetbaldus comes et Stephanus filius eius, Willelmus Gomes, Hugo de Castro-Theodorici, Albricus de Cociaco, Eurardus miles, Gofridus miles, Wido de Castellonio[32].  The Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi records that "vir nobilis, militiæ actibus implicitus…Guido" married "uxorem…Ermengardem" and records that "Albricus frater eius, Cotidiaci dominus" was captured and expelled "per consilium suæ coniugis Avelinæ"[33].  It is difficult to date this event precisely, but presumably it took place after 1079 when Aubry is mentioned in French sources at Coucy for the last time.  Later records indicate that Aubry settled in England, presumably after his expulsion from Coucy: Domesday Book records "the land of Aubrey de Coucy" in Hickleton and Cadeby in Yorkshire in 1086[34].  "…Alberici de Cuceio…" witnessed the charter dated 1088 under which "Rotbertus…Normannorum dux, filius Willelmi…Anglorum regis" donated rights "in villa…Ardevun" {Ardevon} to Mont Saint-Michel[35]m firstly (divorced [1059]) as her first husband, ADA de Marle [Dame de Coucy], daughter of LETAUD de Marle & his wife Mathilde ---.  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Letaldus de Marla…filiam nomine Adam" as mother of "Thomam de Marla"[36]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "filia…Letardi domni de Marla…Ada" as mother of "Thomam de Cocy"[37].  "Albericus de Cociaco…cum Adela uxore sua et matre eius Mathilde" granted privileges to the monastery of Nogent-sous-Coucy by charter dated 1059[38], although the primary source which confirms that she was the daughter of Letaud, as well as the same daughter who later married Enguerrand de Coucy, has not yet been identified.  [Heiress of Coucy]: as Coucy passed from her first husband to her second husband, it is supposed that Ada was heiress of Coucy, although no primary source has yet been identified which confirms that this speculation is correct.  She married secondly Enguerrand de Boves Comte d’Amiens, Seigneur de Coucym secondly AVELINE, daughter of ---.  The Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi records that "vir nobilis, militiæ actibus implicitus…Guido" married "uxorem…Ermengardem" and records that "Albricus frater eius, Cotidiaci dominus" was captured and expelled "per consilium suæ coniugis Avelinæ"[39].  Aubry & his [first/second] wife had one child:  

a)         FOULQUES (-after [1092]).  "…Fulcone filio Alberici" is recorded as present in the charter dated to [1092] under which "Dominus Adam et Philippus suus filius nec non et uxor Philippi" donated property "apud insulam in tuwi sua" to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise[40]

2.         ERMENGARDE (-after 1076).  The Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi records that "vir nobilis, militiæ actibus implicitus…Guido" married "uxorem…Ermengardem" and records that "Albricus frater eius, Cotidiaci dominus" was captured and expelled "per consilium suæ coniugis Avelinæ"[41]m GUY Seigneur de Châtillon, son of --- (-after 1076). 

 

 

 

B.      VICOMTES de COUCY

 

 

1.         GUILLAUME (-after 18 May 1057).  Vicomte de Coucy.  "…Villermi vicecomitis de Couciaco…" witnessed the charter dated 18 May 1057 under which Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons[42]

 

 

 

C.      SEIGNEURS de COUCY

 

 

ENGUERRAND [II] de Coucy, son of THOMAS Comte d’Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy & his third wife Mélisende de Crécy-sur-Serre (-after 1147)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ingelrannum de Marla et Robertum Bovensem et filiam nomine matris" as children of "Thomam de Marla" and his wife Mélisende[43]Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ingelrannum…et Robertum Bovensem" as sons of "Thomas de Coci" and his "secundo uxor domna de Bovis"[44].  A charter dated 16 Apr 1131 records the restoration of “Erlons et manso sancti Lamberti” to Laon Saint-Vincent, subscribed by “Gerardi vicedomini, Nicholai castellani...domine Milesendis, Ingelranni filii euus...[45].  The History of Louis VII King of France names "…Ingerannus de Coceio…"  among those who accompanied King Louis VII on crusade in 1147[46].  Tardif suggests that it is "très probable qu’Enguerran II de la Fère disparut dans un [des] combats" of the Crusade[47]

m (1132) AGNES de Baugency, daughter of RAOUL Seigneur de Baugency & his wife Mathilde de Vermandois.  The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses records "Agnes uxor domini Ingelranni de Cociaco" as daughter of "domina de Baugenciaco primogenita [comitis Hugonis li Maines]" and as mother of "domini Radulphi de Cociaco, et de eodem Radulfo Ingelrannus de Cociaco, nunc vivens"[48].  A more explicit reference which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. 

Enguerrand [II] & his wife had two children: 

1.         RAOUL [I] de Coucy (after 1142-killed siege of Acre Nov 1191, bur Abbaye de Foigny)The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "domini Radulphi de Cociaco…" as son of "Agnes uxor domini Ingelranni de Cociaco"[49]Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle.  "Radulphus de Marla" confirmed the donation to Thenailles abbey made by "patris mei Ingelranni" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Agnes uxor mea, Ada filia mea…"[50].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[51].  "Radulphus…Cociaci et Marlæ dominus…Engelranni filius" donated property to Saint-Denis, for the souls of "meæ, Agnetis uxoris meæ" and especially for the soul of "fratris mei Engelranni" who was buried in the abbey, by charter dated 1174[52].  He was one of the advisers of Philippe II King of France.  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, appointed "Ingelranno filio meo…prior natu" as his main heir, bequeathed "Veruinum, Fontanas et Landousies" to "filius meus Thomas", money to "Radulfo qui clericali promotus est officio…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea", and the dowry of his mother "et villam meam ad sui ædificationem Pinon" to "Roberto"[53]m firstly (before 1164) AGNES de Hainaut, daughter of BAUDOUIN IV Comte de Hainaut & his wife Alice de Namur ([1140/45]-1174 or after).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Yolandem, Agnetem, Lauretam" as the daughters of "Alidis comitissa Hanonensis …cum viro Balduino comite", specifying that the second daughter Agnes married "Radulphus de Cocy qui et Cociacum et Marlam et Vervinum et Feram castra possidebat"[54].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "comitem Balduinum, Henricum de Seburgo et quatuor sorores" as children of "comiti Balduini de Haynaco", naming one daughter (first among those listed) "Agnes [uxor] Rodulfo de Marla"[55].  "Radulphus de Marla" confirmed the donation to Thenailles abbey made by "patris mei Ingelranni" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Agnes uxor mea, Ada filia mea…"[56].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[57].  "Radulphus…Cociaci et Marlæ dominus…Engelranni filius" donated property to Saint-Denis, for the souls of "meæ, Agnetis uxoris meæ" and especially for the soul of "fratris mei Engelranni" who was buried in the abbey, by charter dated 1174[58].  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[59].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[60]m secondly (after 1174) ALIX de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [I] de Dreux [Capet] & his second wife Agnes de Baudemont Dame de Braine (1156-after Feb 1217).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Engelranni de Coci Petronillam" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" and his second wife[61].  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[62].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[63].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea"[64]She governed Coucy after the death of her husband.  Raoul [I] & his first wife had three children:

a)         YOLANDE de Coucy ([1164]-Braine, Aisne 18 Mar 1222, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Yolande married "Roberto comiti de Drecis et de Braina, filioque Roberti comitis fratris Ludovici regis Francorum"[65].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[66].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[67].  "Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum" donated property "in…Rupis Fortis" to Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, with the consent of "uxoris mee Yolendis", by charter dated to [1184/1200][68].  “Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum et Braye, et Yolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated property to Notre-Dame, Paris, with the consent of “Roberti filii nostri”, by charter dated 1208[69]"R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum" by charter dated Jul 1212[70]The necrology of Reims [Saint-Rémi] records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Ioles Brane comitissa"[71]m (1184) as his second wife, ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux, son of ROBERT [I] "le Grand" Seigneur de Dreux & his second wife Agnès de Baudemont dame de Braine ([1153]-28 Dec 1218, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived)

b)         MELISENDE [Agnes/Isabelle] de Coucy .  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Agnes married firstly "Radulpho comiti de Roci", by whom she was childless, and secondly "comiti de Grandiprato"[72].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[73].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married "monseigneur Raoul conte de Rousci" who died childless, and secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre"[74].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[75].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[76]m firstly ([1170/1180]) RAOUL [I] Comte de Roucy, son of GUISCARD Comte de Roucy & his wife Elisabeth de Mareil (-1196).  m secondly as his first wife, HENRI [III] Comte de Grandpre, son of HENRI [II] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Luitgard de Luxembourg (-1211).

c)         ADA de Coucy (-after 1199).  "Radulphus de Marla" confirmed the donation to Thenailles abbey made by "patris mei Ingelranni" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Agnes uxor mea, Ada filia mea…"[77].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Ada married "in Flandria Theoderico de Beverna…castellano de Dicamuda"[78].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la tierce fille monsigneur Raoul de Couchi...Ada" married “monsigneur Thierri de Bevre chastelain de Dikemue, qui ot de lui 2 fius et 3 filles.  Li ainsnes des fius...Thierris...sires de Bevres et chastelains de Dykemue apries son pere.  Li autres...Guillaumes.  L’une des filles Thierri signour de Bevre fu mariee a signour de Grinberghes, ki ot de li une fille qui fu hoirs de sa terre.  Si l’ot a feme Godefrois li sires de Pierewes.  La seconde fille monsigneur Thierri de Bevre fu mariee a...monsigneur Willaume de Hondescote, qui ot de li un fil...Pieres qui apries son pere tint l’yretage de son pere.  Encore ot mesires Willaumes de Hondescote pluisours fius et filles.  La tierche fille monsigneur Thierri de Bevre fut mariee a monsigneur Gobert de Monchablon qui ot de li un fil et une fille, li fius...Gobers...[qui] tint la terre apries la mort Gobert son pere[79].  “Theodoricus dominus de Beverna castellanus de Dixmuda et...uxor mea Ada” donated property to “ecclesia Viconiensi” by charter dated 1199[80]m DIRK van Beveren, son of --- (-after Apr 1203). 

Raoul [I] & his second wife had five children:

d)         ENGUERRAND [III] de Coucy (-1243, bur Foigny)The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Ingelrannus de Cociaco, nunc vivens" as son of "domini Radulphi de Cociaco"[81]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère et de Crécy. 

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e)         THOMAS de Coucy (-[1252/53]).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[82]Seigneur de Vervins. 

-        SEIGNEUR de VERVINS

f)          ROBERT de Coucy (-after Mar 1234).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[83].  Seigneur de Pinon. 

-        SEIGNEURS de PINON

g)         RAOUL de Coucy (-after 1190).  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[84].  Priest.  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "Radulfo qui clericali promotus est officio…"[85]

h)         AGNES de Coucy (-1214 or after).  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea"[86]The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios et filias…quorum primogenitus ex sorore domini Iacobi de Bailluel in Haynonia filios genuit et filias, secundus…Radulphus uxorem duxit dominam de Baudour relictam domini de Walaincourt et sine liberis mortuus est, tertius…Thomas clericus…et postea Remensis archiepiscopus, quartus Robertus cognomen habuit de Britannia, eo quod nutritus fuerat cum comite Britanniæ Petro"[87]m (after 1190) GILLES de Beaumetz Châtelain de Bapaume, son of HUGUES de Beaumetz Châtelain de Bapaume & his wife Beatrix de Guines (-after 1214). 

2.         ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-1174 or before, bur Saint-Denis).  "Radulphus…Cociaci et Marlæ dominus…Engelranni filius" donated property to Saint-Denis, for the souls of "meæ, Agnetis uxoris meæ" and especially for the soul of "fratris mei Engelranni" who was buried in the abbey, by charter dated 1174[88]

 

 

The precise relationship between the following, probable brother and sister, and Raoul Seigneur de Coucy has not yet been established: 

1.         RAOUL (-after 1187).  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[89]

2.         MARGUERITE (-after 1187).  An undated charter relates to "feodum de Firmitate" held by "Jobertum de Firmitate et Margaretam uxorem suam", previously held by "Radulfus de Couceio"[90].  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[91]m JOSBERT de la Ferté-Béliard, son of ---.  [Thibaut Comte de Blois confirmed that “Josbertus de Firmitate”, departing for Jerusalem, donated property “in villa Petrecini” to Clairvaux, with the consent of “Gertrude uxore sua”, by charter dated 1145, witnessed by “...Hugo dominus de Bello Monte sororius eius...[92].  This charter has not been linked to any other “Josbert de la Ferté”.  It is placed here for convenience until more information comes to light about this family and it can be fitted into the right place.] 

 

 

ENGUERRAND [III] de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his second wife Alix de Dreux (-1243, bur Foigny)The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Ingelrannus de Cociaco, nunc vivens" as son of "domini Radulphi de Cociaco"[93]"Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[94].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, appointed "Ingelranno filio meo…prior natu" as his main heir[95]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère et de Crécy.  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[96]"Ingelrannus dominus de Marla" donated property to Thenailles by charter dated 1201[97]Comte de Roucy: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[98]Comte du Perche 1205.  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[99].  "Ingelrannus de Couciaco dominus de Fara" donated annual payments to Fère, with the consent of "uxoris meæ Matildis comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum meorum Thomæ et Roberti", by charter dated 1207[100].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[101]Ingerannus dominus Couciaci” confirmed the grant of “legem Vervini in perpetuum” to “hominibus in...villa de la Beuriere” made by “fœlicis memoriæ Ælidæ quondam dominæ Couciaci matre mea, assensu meo et assensu Thomæ et Roberti fratrum meorum et Agnetis sororis meæ” by charter dated Apr 1233[102]The Annales Londonienses record the death in 1244 of "Engilrammus de Cucy pater reginæ Scotiæ" after falling from his horse and being dragged into a river in which he was stabbed by his own sword[103].  His place of burial is confirmed by the Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) which records that Jean, third son of Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy, was buried “à Foiny auprés son pere[104]

m firstly (1200 or before, divorced [1200/04]) as her second husband, EUSTACHIE Ctss de Roucy, widow of ROBERT Seigneur de Pierrepont Comte de Roucy, daughter of GUISCARD Comte de Roucy & his wife Elisabeth de Mareuil (-[May 1208/1211]).  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[105].  Her parentage is confirmed as follows.  Her second husband called himself Comte de Roucy in 1202: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[106]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant [Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy] ot trois femmes, la premiere...la contesse du Perche, la seconde...la contesse de Roucy", both marriages being childless[107].  While this source reverses the order of the marriages, it confirms that Enguerrand did at one time marry a comtesse de Roucy.  Du Chesne interprets the documentation differently, stating that Enguerrand married firstly "Beatrix de Vignory veuve de Jean I...comte de Roucy"[108].  The 1200 charter which names Eustachie indicates that Du Chesne cannot be correct and that Enguerrand’s wife was the widow of Robert de Pierrepont.  If the hypothesis shown here is correct, Enguerrand must have divorced Eustachie soon after the marriage.  She is named in a charter dated May 1208: "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth"[109], and Enguerrand’s second marriage is dated to [1204].

m secondly (1204) as her second husband, MATHILDE of Saxony, widow of GEOFFROY [III] Comte du Perche, daughter of HEINRICH "der Löwe" ex-Duke of Saxony and Bavaria & his second wife Matilda of England (1172-13 Jan [1209/10]).  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[110].  "Ingelrannus de Couciaco dominus de Fara" donated annual payments to Fère, with the consent of "uxoris meæ Matildis comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum meorum Thomæ et Roberti", by charter dated 1207[111].  The necrology of the Abbaye des Clairets records the death "Id Jan" of "Mathildis comitissa fundatrix Claretorum"[112]

m thirdly MARIE de Montmirail, daughter of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Montmirail & his wife Helvide de Dampierre (-20 Sep 1272, bur Longpont).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam uxorem Ingelranni de Coci" as daughter of "Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili"[113].  Heiress of Montmirail, Oisy, Crèvecœur, Condé-en-Brie, le Vicomté de Meaux et la Châtelainie de Cambrai.  "Marie dame de Montmirail" requested the king of Navarre to recognise the lands of "Enguerran sire de Coucy son fils" which he inherited after the death of "son frere Mathieu seigneur de Montmirail et d’Oisy" by charter dated 1262[114].  "Ingelrannus, Couciaci, Montis Mirabilis et Oysiaci dominus" recognised the freedoms of “ecclesie Beate Marie de Grandi Campo, Cluniacensis ordinis, Meldensis dyocesis”, with the support of “Maria domina de Fara mater predicti Ingelranni”, by charter dated 13 Jan 1266[115]

Enguerrand [III] & his third wife had [eight or more] children: 

1.         RAOUL [II] de Coucy (-killed in battle Faraskur 6 Apr 1250).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "Raoul" as the oldest son of "Enguerran de Coucy", adding that he died "sans hoirs de son corps Outre-mer, avec le comte d’Arthois au temps que le Roy S. Louis fut prins à la Massoure"[116]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle et de la Fère.  Matthew Paris records the death of "Radulphus de Cuscy" in the battle in which Louis IX King of France was captured[117]m (after Nov 1246) as her second husband, PHILIPPA de Dammartin, widow of RAOUL de Lusignan Comte d’Eu, daughter of SIMON de Dammartin Comte de Ponthieu & his wife Marie Ctss de Ponthieu (-[14 Apr 1278/1281]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to, but does not name, the four daughters of "comes de Pontivo Symon" (in order) as the wives of "rex Castelle de Hispanie Fernandus…maiorem filius vicecomitis de Castro Araudi…filius comitis de Augo…comes de Roceio"[118].  "Philippa quondam comitissa Augi et domina Couciaci" granted a fief by charter dated Jul 1251[119].  She married thirdly ([1252/54]) as his second wife, Otto II Graaf van Gelre.  The Kronik van Arent toe Bocop records that "Otto…grave van Gelre" married secondly "Philippa, de grave van Syntpols dochter"[120]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that the wife of "Raoul", oldest son of "Enguerran de Coucy", married secondly "le conte Otte de Guelles"[121]

2.         JEAN de Coucy (-before 1245).  The order of births of the sons of Enguerrand [III] is unclear.  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Ioannes" second brother of "primogenitus Radulphus" died young[122].  However, the Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "Enguerrant de Coucy" as the second son of Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy and Jean as his third son, adding that he died young and was buried “à Foiny auprés son pere[123]

3.         ENGUERRAND [IV] de Coucy (-1310).  Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Montmirail et de Crèvecœur.  He succeeded his brother in 1250 as Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle et de la Fère.  "Ingelranni Cociaci, Montismirabilis et Oisiaci domini et Mariæ uxoris eius" donated annual revenue "in castellania de Firmitate Angulfi" to Grandchamp priory by charter dated 1260[124].  "Marie dame de Montmirail" requested the king of Navarre to recognise the lands of "Enguerran sire de Coucy son fils" which he inherited after the death of "son frere Mathieu seigneur de Montmirail et d’Oisy" by charter dated 1262[125].  "Ingelrannus, Couciaci, Montis Mirabilis et Oysiaci dominus" recognised the freedoms of “ecclesie Beate Marie de Grandi Campo, Cluniacensis ordinis, Meldensis dyocesis”, with the support of “Maria domina de Fara mater predicti Ingelranni”, by charter dated 13 Jan 1266[126].  "Ingelranni domini Couciaci, nec non Montis-mirabilis et Oesiaci et Margaretæ eius uxoris" sold property to "Ioanni Sarracensi cambellano domini regis et Agneti eius uxori" by charter dated Oct 1266[127]m firstly (before 1260) MARIE, daughter of --- (-[1260/61]).  "Ingelranni Cociaci, Montismirabilis et Oisiaci domini et Mariæ uxoris eius" donated annual revenue "in castellania de Firmitate Angulfi" to Grandchamp priory by charter dated 1260[128].  It is not known whether “Mariæ” in this document is a mistake for “Margaretæ”, in which case this person could have been the same person as Enguerrand’s known wife.  Another possibility is that “uxoris eius” was a mistake for “matris eius”, and therefore that this document referts to Enguerrand’s mother not his wife.  m secondly (before 1262) MARGARETA van Gelre, daughter of OTTO II Graaf van Gelre & his first wife Margareta von Kleve (-before 1286).  "Ingelranni domini Couciaci, nec non Montis-mirabilis et Oesiaci et Margaretæ eius uxoris" sold property to "Ioanni Sarracensi cambellano domini regis et Agneti eius uxori" by charter dated Oct 1266[129]The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Ingelramus" married "filiam Ottonis comitis Gelriæ Margaretam"[130]m thirdly (May 1288) JEANNE de Flandre, daughter of ROBERT III "de Béthune" Count of Flanders & his second wife Yolande de Bourgogne Ctss de Nevers [Capet] (-15 Oct 1333).  The Anciennes Chroniques de Flandre record that "la seconde [fille]" of "Robert" married "au seigneur de Couchy"[131].  A charter of Rupelmonde records that "Enguerran Sire de Coucy" married "dame Jeanne de Flandres fille aisnée du comte Robert de Flandres" in 1288[132].  She became abbess of Sauvoir near Laon after her husband died[133]

4.         other children (-bur Prémontré).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Monsieur Enguerrant" (which from the context refers to Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy) “plusieurs autres enfans qui moururent jeunes et gisent tous à Premonstré[134].  The number of these children is not indicated, but presumably “plusieurs” indicates that there were at least three. 

5.         MARIE de Coucy (-[1284/85], bur Newbottle, Scotland).  She is named by Matthew Paris, who also names her father when he records her (first) marriage[135].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the marriage in 1239 of "Ingelrannus de Coci…filiam suam" and "regi Scotie Alexandro"[136].  The Liber Pluscardensis records the marriage at Roxburgh in 1239 of "rex Alexander Scociæ" and "filiam domini de Coussy Mariam"[137].  She returned to France 29 Sep 1251 after her husband's death[138].  King Henry III granted free passage to “Johanni filio regis Jerusalem, regni Franciæ buticulario...et consorti vestræ reginæ Scotiæ” by charter dated 6 Jun 1257[139].  John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Maria mater regis Alexandri…uxor Johannis de Aconia" fled her husband for Scotland in 1265[140].  John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death of "Maria mater Alexandri tertii regis Scotiæ in partibus transmarinis", dated to [1284/85] from the context[141]m firstly (Roxburgh 15 May 1239[142]) as his second wife, ALEXANDER II King of Scotland, son of WILLIAM I “the Lion” King of Scotland & his wife Ermengarde de Beaumont (Haddington, East Lothian 24 Aug 1198-Isle of Kerrara, Bay of Oban 6 Jul 1249, bur Melrose Abbey, Roxburghshire).  m secondly (before 6 Jun 1257) as his second wife, JEAN de Brienne "d'Acre", son of JEAN de Brienne King of Jerusalem & his third wife Infanta doña Berenguela de Castilla y León (-1296).   

6.         ALIX de Coucy (-13 Oct, 1283 or after).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "la seconde fille de monsieur Enguerrant, qui fist faire le chastel de Coucy…Alix" married "au conte Ernoul de Guignes"[143].  "Arnulphus comes Guinensis" sold "iuris dominii et possessionis habebam…in villis et territoriis de Guinis, de le Montoire, de Tornehem" to Philippe III King of France, while providing for "Aelidis uxor nostra" should she survive him, by charter dated Feb 1282[144].  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “13 Oct“ 1354 [which is too late considering the chronology of the family] of "dominæ Aelidis de Coci comitissæ de Guines” and her donation of “1000 librarum in vasis tum argenteis tum aureis[145]m ARNOUL [III] Comte de Guines, son of BAUDOUIN Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Fiennes (-after Feb 1282). 

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de COUCY (GUINES)

 

 

ENGUERRAND de Guines, son of ARNOUL [III] Comte de Guines & his wife Alix de Coucy (-after 1321).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "Enguerrant" as the second son of "la seconde fille de monsieur Enguerrant, qui fist faire le chastel de Coucy…Alix" and her husband "au conte Ernoul de Guignes"[146]Seigneur de Coucy, d'Oisy et de Montmirail.  "Enguerrans de Guines Sires de Coucy et d’Oisy et de Mommiral et Iohans de Guines Viscoens de Meaux, Sires de Fertez Gauchier et Ancoul" agreed the partition of territories inherited from "de bonne memoire...Engerran iadis Seigneur de Coucy et de Oisy et de Mommiral nostre...oncle" by charter dated Jul 1311[147]

m (before 1285) CHRISTIAN de Lindsay, daughter of WILLIAM de Lindsay of Lamberton & his wife Ada Balliol ([1267]-1320 or after).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife, was married "en Escosse" by "le Roy Alexandre d’Escosse à qui cousins germains estoit"[148].  An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire, names “Christiana de Lyndesay” as daughter of “secundo Willielmo”, adding that she married “Ingelranum de Gynes[149].  A charter dated 28 May 1283 records the fealty sworn to King Edward I by "Ingeram de Gynes" who has married "Cristiana daughter and heiress of William de Lindesi deceased" for her father’s lands[150].  1320. 

Enguerrand & his wife had four children: 

1.         GUILLAUME de Coucy (-1335)The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[151]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail. 

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2.         ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-1344)The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[152]Vicomte de Meaux.  Seigneur de Condé-en-Brie, de la Ferté-Ancoul, et d’Autrèches. 

-        VICOMTES de MEAUX

3.         BAUDOUINThe Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[153]

4.         ROBERT (-after 1311).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[154]Seigneur de la Ferté-Gaucher, de Rommeny-sur-Marne et de Chemigny.  

 

 

GUILLAUME de Coucy, son of ENGUERRAND [V] Seigneur de Coucy [Guines] & his wife Christian de Lindsay (-1335)Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail. 

m (contract May 1311) ISABELLE de Châtillon, daughter of GUY [III] de Châtillon Comte de St Pol & his wife Marie de Bretagne (-19 May 1360).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by letters dated May 1311 which record the marriage contract between “Guillaume fils aisné d’Enguerran sire de Coucy chevalier” and “mademoiselle Isabel fille de monsieur Guy de Chastillon Comte de S. Pol bouteiller de France[155]

Guillaume & his wife had six children: 

1.         ENGUERRAND [VI] (-killed in battle 25 Aug 1346, bur Ourscamp)Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail.  m (contract Vincennes 25 Nov 1338) as her first husband, KATHARINA of Austria, daughter of LEOPOLD I Duke of Austria & his wife Catherine de Savoie (9 Feb 1320-28 Sep 1349, bur Königsfelden).  She married secondly (Feb 1348) Konrad Graf von Hardegg Burggraf von Magdeburg.  The Chronicle of Matthias Nueweburgensis records the death in 1349 of "domina de Kussi, filia quondam Lupoldi ducis Austrie" and "Conradus de Megdburg maritus eius"[156]Enguerrand [VI] & his wife had two children: 

a)         ENGUERRAND [VII] ([1339]-Bursa, Anatolia of plague 18 Nov 1397, bur Soissons, Abbaye de Villeneuve)Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail.  He was sent to England in 1360 as one of the hostages for Jean II King of France.  Created Earl of Bedford 11 May 1366.  Comte de Soissons 9 Jul 1367.  He resigned all his English honours 26 Aug 1377 to King Richard II, and devoted himself to serving France.  “Ingelramus de Coucy et Isabella uxor eius amita nostra” swore allegiance to Richard II King of England by charter dated 15 Mar 1379[157].  Marshal and Grand Butler of France.  Having refused the appointment of Connétable of France, he was appointed Governor of Brittany.  Member of the Council of Regency during the minority of Charles VI King of France.  The History of the monastery at Soissons records its foundation 1 Jul 1391 by "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy…et consorte mea Isabelli de Lotharingia"[158]He was taken prisoner at Nicopolis by the Turks.  m firstly (27 Jul 1365) ISABELLA of England, daughter of EDWARD III King of England & his wife Philippa de Hainaut (Woodstock Palace, Oxfordshire 16 Feb or [Mar] or 16 Jun [1332 or 1334]-[15 Mar/4 May] 1379 or [17 Jun/5 Oct] 1382, bur Greyfriars Church, Newgate, London).  The Chronicon Angliæ records the marriage “apud Wyndeshourc” of “Ingehamus dominus de Couuci” and “Isabellam filiam regis Edwardi tertii”, dated to 1365 from the context[159].  She remained in England after her husband resigned his English honours in 1377.  “Ingelramus de Coucy et Isabella uxor eius amita nostra” swore allegiance to Richard II King of England by charter dated 15 Mar 1379[160]m secondly (contract 26 Feb 1386) ISABELLE de Lorraine, daughter of JEAN I Duke of Lorraine & his wife Sophie von Württemberg (-after 1423)The History of the monastery at Soissons records its foundation 1 Jul 1391 by "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy…et consorte mea Isabelli de Lotharingia"[161].  Dame de Florennes, de Martigny et de Rumigny.  Enguerrand [VII] & his first wife had two children: 

i)          MARIE (-1404)The History of the monastery at Soissons records that "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy" had "duas filias Mariam…et Philippam" from his first wife "filia Eduardi Angliæ regis", adding that Marie married "domino Henrico de Bar"[162]The Histoire Latine du Roy Charles VI records that “Henricus qui erat primogenitus”, son of "ducis Barrensis uxor...Maria filia quondam Ioannis Regis Franciæ", married “filia...antiquiori domini de Couciaco Ingerranni[163].  The marriage contract between “Robert Duc de Bar, Marquis du Pont...Henry aisné fils de nous Duc” and “Enguerrand Sire de Coucy et Comte de Soissons...Marie aisnée fille de nous Sire de Coucy” is dated 1383[164]Ctss de Soissons.  Heiress of Coucy and Oisy.  m HENRI de Bar, son of ROBERT I Duc de Bar & his wife Marie de France (Bar-le-Duc [1367]-Treviso Nov 1398, bur Paris, couvent des Celestins). 

ii)         PHILIPPA (-Oct 1411)The History of the monastery at Soissons records that "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy" had "duas filias Mariam…et Philippam" from his first wife "filia Eduardi Angliæ regis"[165]Heiress of Morholm, Wirisdale.  She was styled Duchess of Ireland even after her divorce[166]A charter dated 24 Jul 1389 granted safe passage to le sire de Coucy de France...sa file et nostre cousyne Philippe la femme Robert de Veer n’adgairs Duc d’Irland” to come to England[167]m (5 Oct 1376 or before, repudiated, divorced 1387, divorce declared void 17 Oct 1389) as his first wife, ROBERT de Vere Earl of Oxford, son of THOMAS de Vere Earl of Oxford & his wife Maud de Ufford (16 Jan 1362-Louvain 1392, bur Louvain, transferred Nov 1395 to Earl's Colne).  He was created Marquess of Dublin for life 1 Dec 1385, and Duke of Ireland for life 13 Oct 1386. 

Enguerrand [VII] & his second wife had one child: 

iii)        ISABELLE (-1411)The History of the monastery at Soissons names "Isabellam adhuc infantulam" as the daughter of "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy…et consorte mea Isabelli de Lotharingia"[168]Ctss de Soissons 1408.  The marriage contract between “Philippe comte de Nevers et de Rethel et baron de Donzy” and “sa...cousine damoiselle Isabel de Coucy fille du feu sire de Coucy” is dated 6 Jan 1408[169]m (contract 6 Jan 1408, Soissons 23 Apr 1409) PHILIPPE de Bourgogne Comte de Nevers et de Rethel, son of PHILIPPE II "le Hardi" Duke of Burgundy & his wife Marguerite II Ctss of Flanders (Villaines-en-Duesmois Oct 1389-killed in battle Agincourt 25 Oct 1415, bur Estelan near Rethel). 

b)         JEANNE de Coucy m as his first wife, CHARLES de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, son of JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, de Gandelus, de Troissy et de Marigny & his second wife Jeanne de Sancerre (-1401). 

2.         JEAN (-after 1354).  Seigneur d’Havraincourt. 

3.         RAOUL (-after 1389).  Seigneur de Montmirail, de la Ferté-Gaucher, d’Havraincourt, d’Encre, de Bailleul et de Hornoy.  m JEANNE d’Harcourt, daughter of JEAN [V] Comte d’Harcourt et d’Aumâle & his wife Blanche de Ponthieu Ctss d’Aumâle (La Saussaye 27 Sep 1358-1412 or after).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage but cites no source on which the information is based[170].  Raoul & his wife had six children: 

a)         ENGUERRAND (-after 1392).  Seigneur de Montmirail, d’Encre et de Havraincourt. 

b)         RAOUL (-Mar 1424).  Bishop of Noyon 1415.  Bishop of Metz 1424. 

c)         GUILLAUME (-after 1411).  Seigneur de Montmirail. 

d)         BLANCHE (-24 Feb 1410, bur Braine Saint-Yved)m HUGUES de Roucy Comte de Braine, son of SIMON de Roucy Comte de Braine & his wife Marie de Châtillon (-25 Oct 1395, Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Roucy 1391. 

e)         MARGUERITE (-after 1419)m (contract 2 Aug 1389) GUY de Nesle Seigneur d’Offemont et de Mello, son of --- (-after 21 Oct 1415). 

f)          ANNE (-8 Oct 1413)An inscription in the church of Busignies records the burial of Gilles de Chin” who was killed in battle at Agincourt 25 Oct 1415 and of “Dame Anne de Couchy...de Harcourt par se mere” who died 8 Oct 1413[171]m GILLES de Chin, son of --- (-killed in battle Agincourt 25 Oct 1415). 

4.         AUBERT (-1388).  Seigneur de Dronay.  m (before 1365) as her second husband, JEANNE de Villesavoir, widow of --- de Vailly, daughter of ---.  Aubert & his wife had two children: 

a)         MARIEm firstly GILLES de Mailly, son of ---.  m secondly GAUCHER de Châtillon Seigneur de Buisson, son of ---.  m thirdly (before 1399) JEAN de Lissac, son of ---. 

b)         ISABELLE (-1413).  m (before 1387) RAOUL de Raingeval, son of ---. 

5.         MARIE (-after 1347). 

6.         ISABELLE (-after 1347). 

 

 

 

E.      SEIGNEURS de CRECY-sur-SERRE

 

 

Crécy-sur-Seine is a village lying about 15 kilometres due north of Laon, and about the same distance south-west of Marle, in the present-day French département of Aisne.  Crécy-sur-Serre was inherited by the family of the comtes d’Amiens, who also held the seigneuries of Coucy and Marle. 

 

 

1.         GUY de Crécy .  Seigneur de Crécy-sur-Serrem ---.  The name of Guy’s wife is not known.  Guy & his wife had one child: 

a)         MELISENDE de Crécy (-after 1147)The Annales Lobienses name "de terra Ambianensi…Milesendem" as wife of "Thomam de Marla" after he repudiated his first wife[172]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the second wife of "Thomas de Coci" as "domna de Bovis"[173].  Tardif records Thomas’s third marriage with "Milesende de Crécy, héritière de Guy seigneur de Crécy-sur-Serre", adding that her dowry was "les deux châteaux de Crécy et de Nouvion-l’Abbesse, dépendant tous deux de l’abbaye de Saint-Jean de Laon" (no primary source cited which provides the basis for the statement)[174].  A charter dated 16 Apr 1131 records the restoration of “Erlons et manso sancti Lamberti” to Laon Saint-Vincent, subscribed by “Gerardi vicedomini, Nicholai castellani...domine Milesendis, Ingelranni filii eius...[175]m as his third wife, THOMAS [I] Comte d´Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, son of ENGUERRAND [I] Comte d´Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy et de Boves & his wife Ada de Marle [Roucy] ([1070/75]-[1130/31])

 

 

 

F.      SEIGNEURS de MARLE

 

 

The small town of Marle lies about 25 kilometres north-north-east of Laon, and about 15 kilometres south-west of Vervins, in the present-day French département of Aisne.  In the early 11th century, Marle was held by Létaud, a younger brother of Ebles Comte de Roucy who was elected archbishop of Reims in 1021.  Létaud´s daughter brought Marle to the family of the comtes d’Amiens.  Thereafter the seigneurie de Marle was linked to the seigneurie de Coucy. 

 

 

LETAUD de Marle, son of [GISELBERT Comte [de Roucy] & his wife ---] .  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[176]

m MATHILDE, daughter of ---.  Elinand Bishop of Laon donations made by "Albricus de Cociaco castro…cum uxore sua Adela et matre eius Malthilde" by charter dated 3 Nov 1059[177].  [Heiress of Coucy]: assuming that it is correct, as speculated below, that her daughter Ada de Marle was [vicomtesse] de Coucy in her own right, it is possible that the property was inherited from her mother as no record has been found of it belonging to the family of Ada’s father. 

Létaud & his wife had one child: 

1.         ADA de Marle .  Elinand Bishop of Laon donations made by "Albricus de Cociaco castro…cum uxore sua Adela et matre eius Malthilde" by charter dated 3 Nov 1059[178]Her parentage and second marriage are indicated by the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "Letaldus de Marla…filiam nomine Adam" as mother of "Thomam de Marla"[179], read together with the sources which indicate that Thomas was the son of Enguerrand [I] de Bove Comte d’Amiens.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "filia…Letardi domni de Marla…Ada" as mother of "Thomam de Cocy"[180].  It is assumed that "Adela" in the first source is the same person as "Ada" in the second and third sources, but this is not beyond all doubt.  [Heiress of Coucy]: as Coucy passed from her first husband to her second husband, it is supposed that Ada was heiress of Coucy, although no primary source has yet been identified which confirms that this speculation is correct.  m firstly (divorced 1059) AUBRY [de Beaumont-sur-Oise] Vicomte de Coucy, son of [IVES [I] Comte de Beaumont & his wife Emma ---] (-before 1095).  m secondly (repudiated) as his first wife, ENGUERRAND [I] Comte d’Amiens Seigneur de Boves et de Coucy, son of DREUX Seigneur de Boves & his wife --- (-[1117]). 

 

 

 

G.      VICOMTES de MEAUX

 

 

ENGUERRAND de Coucy, son of ENGUERRAND [V] Seigneur de Coucy [Guines] & his wife Christian de Lindsay (-1344)The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[181]Vicomte de Meaux.  Seigneur de Condé-en-Brie, de la Ferté-Ancoul, et d’Autrèches. 

m firstly (before 1324) as her second husband, MARIA von Vianden, widow of GUILLAUME de Flandre, daughter of PHILIPP von Vianden Heer van Rumpst & his wife Marie de Cernay.  Heiress of Rumpst and Schorisse [Escornaix]. 

m secondly (before 1343) as her third husband, ALEMANDE Flotte de Revel, widow firstly ARMAND de Polignac Seigneur de Bouzols, and secondly of EUSTACHE [IV] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil, daughter of GUILLAUME Flotte Seigneur de Revel & his wife Jeanne d’Amboise (-1371).  She married fourthly as his second wife, Gaucher [VIII] de Châtillon Seigneur de ChâtillonA judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[182]

Enguerrand & his first wife had three children: 

1.         PHILIPPE (-[30 Dec 1345/1350]).  He succeeded his father in 1344 as Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Condé, de la Ferté-Ancoul, de Tresmes et de Rumpst.  A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[183]m (before 1344) JEANNE le Flamenc, daughter of RAOUL le Flamenc Seigneur de Canny & his wife --- (-before 12 Mar 1361).  Duchesne notes the marriage of Philippe de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux and “Jeanne de Canny fille de Raoul Flament Seigneur de Canny” recorded in letters dated 1344 and 1347 “gardées aux archives du chasteau de Varennes”, as well as her second marriage to “un chevalier...Jena de Preaux, dont n’estoit procedée qu’une fille[184].  Her parentage and two marriages are also recorded in the marriage contract of her daughter Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.?).  She married secondly Jean de PréauxMargry reverses the order of her marriages without explaining the basis for his assessment[185]Philippe & his wife had [three] children: 

a)         [ISABELLE de Coucy (-1368).  This person appears to have been invented by Duchesne.  He states that Jean de Chastillon II Seigneur de Chastillon, de la Ferté en Ponthieu...encore pour lors jeune escuyer” married “Ysabeau de Coucy Vicomtesse de Meaux, qu’aucuns memoires appellent Jeanne de Guines” whom he calls her father’s oldest daughter, adding that she died childless in 1368[186].  He refers to Isabelle’s supposed testament, naming her executors[187].  However, Duchesne’s list of executors of this supposed testament are the same recorded as executors of Jeanne de Coucy, wife of Jean de Châtillon Seigneur de Dampierre, as recorded in a judgment dated 16 Nov 1368 (see below)[188].  Duchesne cites no other source which confirms Isabelle’s existence, which appears disproved by the marriage contract of her supposed sister Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 which names Eléonore as her only full sister.  m [as his first wife,] JEAN Seigneur de Châtillon, son of GAUCHER [VIII] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Seigneur de Châtillon, de Troissy et de la Ferté-en-Ponthieu & his second wife Alemande de Revel (-1416).] 

b)         ELEONORE (-1371).  She succeeded her father as Vicomtesse de Meaux.  Her marriage is recorded in the marriage contract of her sister Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.).  A parliamentary register dated 16 Aug 1369 refers to the claim by "Galcherum de Castellione armigerum et Mariam de Castellione domicellam eius sororem” against “Matheum dominum de Ligne militem...ad causam uxoris suæ heredum defunctæ Ioannæ de Couciaco domicellæ quodnam vicecomitissa Meldensis[189]Robert de Bethune Vicomte de Miaulx et Sires de Venduel Chevaliers” and “Iehans de Ligne Escuyers, qui avoient deux seurs espousées filles de...Iehan Seigneur de Barbenchon et...Yolens de Lens sa...compaigne” agreed the succession of “feu...Michel iadis Signeur de Ligne et...Alienor de Couchy Dame de Ligne et Vicontesse de Miaux”, by letters dated Oct 1387[190]m (before 12 Mar [1360/61]) MICHEL [II] Seigneur de Ligne, son of MICHEL [I] Seigneur de Ligne & his wife --- (-[1385/27 Mar 1387]). 

c)         JEANNE (-before Nov 1368).  Heiress of Condé-en-Brie, Ferté-Ancoul and Tresmes.  The marriage contract of “Gauchier de Chastillon Sire de la Ferté en Pontiu...pour...Iehan de Chastillon escuyer nostre filz” and “Flamens Sire de Canny chevaliers...pour...damoiselle Iehanne de Coussy fille iadis de feu Monsieur Philippe de Coucy iadis Viconte de Meaulx et de feu Iehanne de Canni nostre fille iadis sa fame” is dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.?), records the marriage of “le seigneur de Ligne et sa fame seur germaine de ladite damoiselle” and provided for “la fille de messire Iehan de Preaulx et d’icelle nostre fille, seur de par mere de la fame dudit Sire de Ligne et de ladite damoiselle Iehanne[191]A judgment dated 16 Nov 1368 relates to the testament of "defuncta Ioanna de Couciaco domicella vicecomitissa Meldensis uxor...Ioannis de Castellione scutiferi” and a claim by “Galchero de Castellione scutifero et domicella Ioannæ de Castellione eius sorors” against her executors “Ioannem de Castellione eius maritum...Galcherum dominum de Castellione, Galcherum de Castellione dominum de Dours, Radulfum Flamingi dominum de Canni...[192]m (contract 12 Mar [1360/61]) JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Dampierre et de Sompuis, son of JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Dampierre, de Sompuis et de Rollaincourt & his wife Marie de Rollaincourt (-after 16 Nov 1368). 

2.         MARIE (-1355 or after)A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[193]m GAUCHER de Châtillon Vidame de Laonnois, Seigneur de Rozoy et de Clacy, son of HUGUES de Châtillon Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thiérache, de Pontarcy, et de Clacy, Vidame de Laonnois & his wife Marie de Clacy (-[1355]). 

3.         JEANNE (-Jan 1363)A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[194]A manuscript which records properties of [her husband] lists her properties “le quart de la terre de Condé en Brie...la terre d’Autresche...les bois de Hauraincourt...la terre des Cornés...la terre de Bussu et du Vergie[195]A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints” who had nine children “in brevi tempore[196].  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that of their nine sons Robert was the oldest and Jean the seventh[197]m (1351) JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Vendeuil, son of GUILLAUME [IV] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne & his wife Marie de Roye Dame de Vendeuil (-Jan 1373).  Jean de Béthune & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT de Béthune (-Feb 1408).  He succeeded his maternal first cousin in 1371 as Vicomte de Meaux.  He succeeded his father in 1373 as Seigneur de Vendeuil. 

-        see below

b)         other children: see BETHUNE

 

 

The Vicomté de Meaux was inherited by the Béthune family, passed by marriage to a younger branch of the family of the Ducs de Bar, and by a later marriage was incorporated into the properties of the Luxembourg family.  An outline of the descent is as follows (full details of these persons are given in the corresponding hyperlinked documents):

 

ROBERT de Béthune, son of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Vendeuil & his wife Jeanne de Coucy (-Feb 1408).  He succeeded his maternal first cousin in 1371 as Vicomte de Meaux.  He succeeded his father in 1373 as Seigneur de Vendeuil. 

1.         JEANNE de Béthune, daughter of ROBERT de Béthune Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Vendeuil & his third wife Isabelle van Gistel (-end 1450)She succeeded her father in 1408 as Vicomtesse de MeauxDame de Vendeuil, de Condé-en-Brie, de Ghistelles, de Falvy et de Rumpstm firstly (contract 16 Feb 1409) ROBERT de Bar, son of HENRI de Bar & his wife Marie de Coucy ([1390]-killed in battle Agincourt 25 Oct 1415).  He was created Comte de Marle, Comte de Soissons et Seigneur d'Oisy in France Aug 1413.  Robert de Bar & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEANNE de Bar, daughter of ROBERT de Bar Comte de Marle et de Soissons & his wife Jeanne de Bethune Vicomtesse de Meaux (1415-14 May 1462).  She succeeded her father as Ctss de Marle et de Soissons.  She succeeded her mother as Vicomtesse de Meauxm (château de Bohain 16 Jul 1435) LOUIS de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol, de Brienne, de Ligny et de Conversano, son of PIERRE de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol & his wife Margherita del Balzo (1418-beheaded Paris 19 Dec 1475).

 

 

 

H.      SEIGNEURS de PINON

 

 

Pinon is located about 10 kilometres south-west of Laon. 

 

 

ROBERT de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-after Mar 1234).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[198].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[199].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed the dowry of his mother "et villam meam ad sui ædificationem Pinon" to "Roberto"[200]Seigneur de Pinon.  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[201].  "Robertus de Cociaco dominus de Pinon et…uxor mea Elizabeth" granted rights to Pinon, with the consent of "fratrum meorum Ingelramni domini Marlæ et Thomæ domini de Veruino", by charter dated May 1213[202].  “Ing. de Cociaco” declared that “frater meus Robertus” held “terram suam de Maruel” from Blanche comtesse de Champagne by charter dated May 1213[203]

m firstly (before 1213) ELISABETH de Pierrepont, daughter of ROBERT de Pierrepont Comte de Roucy & his wife Eustache Ctss de Roucy.  "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[204].  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.  "Robertus de Cociaco dominus de Pinon et…uxor mea Elizabeth" granted rights to Pinon, with the consent of "fratrum meorum Ingelramni domini Marlæ et Thomæ domini de Veruino", by charter dated May 1213[205]

m secondly (before 1219) as her second husband, GODE --- Dame de Raineval, widow of --- de Préaux, daughter of --- (-after Mar 1234).  "Godde dame de Raineval femme de Robert de Coucy seigneur de Pinon" donated property to Saint-Fuscian lés Amiens, with the consent of "Jean, Florent, Willaume, Raoul et Simon ses enfants", by charter dated 1219[206].  "Ioannis de Pratellis militis domini de Reneval" donated property to Amiens cathedral, with the consent of "nobilis dominæ Godæ matris suæ", by charter dated Mar 1234[207]Europäische Stammtafeln records that Robert de Coucy had descendants extinct in the male line 1377[208].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Robers...de Pignon" married “madame Godde de --- si ot de luy un fils...Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and married “Marguerite seur monsieur Nicole de Morlaines” and had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “le fils...Robers” married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans”, that “l’une des filles...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme” and that “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[209].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Raoul de Couchi...tierch fil...Robiers" married “la fille le seignour de Praiaus...Gode” [parentage inconsistent with the Lignages de Coucy] who “ot de li un fil...Jehans” who married “la fille le tonnier de Biauvais, si ot de li un fil...Robers[210]

Robert & his [first/second] wife had one child: 

1.         SOPHIE de Pinon .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Rogerus", son of "Aelidis secunda filia...[Jacobus]" and "domino Rogero de Rosoy", married firstly “filiam domini Roberti de Couchi[211]m as his first wife, ROGER de Rozoy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Rozoy & his wife Alix d’Avesnes (-killed in battle Fariskur 6 Apr 1250).

Robert & his second wife had [one child]: 

2.         [JEAN [de Coucy] (-after 1268).  Seigneur de Pinon.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names Jean as son of Robert ("Raoul de Couchi...tierch fil") by his wife Gode[212].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” as the son of "Robers...de Pignon" and his second wife “madame Godde[213].  The difficulty with these two statements is that Gode, second wife of Robert de Coucy, is recorded elsewhere with a son by her first husband named Jean (de Préaux, seigneur de Raineval) who was alive in Mar 1234 (see NORMANDY NOBILITY).  Gode was married to Robert before 1219, as noted above.  If her son Jean de Préaux died soon after 1234, it is unlikely that she gave birth to a son, also named Jean, nearly twenty years after her marriage.  The solutions seem to be that (1) Gode had two sons named Jean or (2) Jean Seigneur de Pinon was the same person as Jean de Préaux Seigneur de Raineval, although it would be unusual for Pinon to have been transmitted by Robert de Coucy to his stepson.  Gallia Christiana records that “Johanne de Coucy domino de Pinon” agreed a settlement [of unspecified disputes] with Guillaume abbot of Saint-Ghislain by charter dated 1268[214]m MARGUERITE de Morlaines, daughter of NICOLAS Seigneur de Morlaines tonloyer de Beauvais & his wife ---.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes record that Jean, son of Robert de Coucy, married “la fille le tonnier de Biauvais, si ot de li un fil...Robers[215].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” married “Marguerite seur monsieur Nicole de Morlaines” and had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “le fils...Robers” married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans”, that “l’une des filles...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme” and that “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[216].  Jean & his wife had three children: 

a)         ROBERT de Pinon .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes record that Jean, son of Robert de Coucy, married “la fille le tonnier de Biauvais, si ot de li un fil...Robers[217]Seigneur de Pinon.  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “le fils...Robers” married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans”, that “l’une des filles...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme” and that “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[218]m --- de Perreumont, daughter of ---.  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “Robers”, son of “Iehan...de Pignon” and his wife, married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans[219].  Robert & his wife had [three or more] children: 

i)          children .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “Robers”, son of “Iehan...de Pignon” and his wife, married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans[220]

b)         --- de Pinon .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, and that “l’une des filles” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme[221]m --- Seigneur de Bailleux, son of ---. 

c)         MARIE de Pinon (-after Aug 1298).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, of which “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[222].  “Gilles sires de Berlainmont chevaliers” granted “[le] chastiel de Fain” as dower to “Marie de Pinon dame de Berlainmont se fame” by charter dated 1288[223].  The assignment of dower suggests that the marriage was of recent date and that Marie was her husband’s second wife.  Guy Count of Flanders granted a hereditary fief to Gillion signeur de Berlenmont”, and “se lidis sires de Berlenmont a hoir de Marie de Pinon dame de Berlenmont se femme” to be inherited by them, by charter dated Aug 1298[224]m (before 1288) as his second wife, GILLES [VII] Seigneur de Berlaimont, son of --- (-after Feb 1308). 

 

 

1.         ROBERT de Pinon (-1377)Seigneur de Pinonm as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Roucy, widow of GAUCHER [V] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse et de Drony, daughter of SIMON de Roucy Comte de Braine & his wife Marie de Châtillon (-Mar 1380).  She married thirdly Hugues de Clary

 

 

 

I.        SEIGNEURS de VERVINS (COUCY)

 

 

Vervins is located about 15 kilometres north-east of Marle, 20 kilometres north-west of Rozoy-sur-Serre, in the present-day French département of Aisne, arrondissement Vervins, canton Vervins. 

 

 

THOMAS de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-[1252/53]).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[225].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[226].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed "Veruinum, Fontanas et Landousies" to "filius meus Thomas"[227]Seigneur de Vervins.  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[228].  "Thomas de Cociaco Vervini dominus" granted "homines de Tria et de Charmentrei" rights "super…terra quæ ex parte Mathildis uxoris meæ de dono Hugonis comitis Regetensis ad me devenit" by charter dated Dec 1212[229].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” swore allegiance to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “quicquid habeo apud Triam le Bardol et apud Charmentre”, except his obligations to “domini Ingelranni fratris mei”, by charter dated Aug 1215[230].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini et Mathildis uxor eius” issued a charter dated Sep 1223 under the guarantee of “domini sui Theobaldi, Campaniæ et Briæ comitis palatini[231].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” acknowledged that “dominus meus Hugo Regitestensis comes ac domina mea uxor eius Felicitas, de assensu Hugonis primogeniti eorundem” had granted “vineas, domos...apud Sezannam” to “Mathildi uxori mee filie eorundem” by charter dated Dec 1224[232]

m (before Dec 1224) MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES Comte de Rethel & his wife Félicité de Broyes (-after 1255).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated Dec 1224 under which "Thomas de Coucy seigneur de Vervins" acknowledged "Hugues comte de Rethel et Félicité sa femme" had granted property at Sézanne to "leur fille Mathilde, femme dudit Thomas", with the consent of "Hugues leur fils ainé"[233].  Dame de Trie-le-Bardoul et de Charmentré.  "Thomas de Cociaco Vervini dominus" granted "homines de Tria et de Charmentrei" rights "super…terra quæ ex parte Mathildis uxoris meæ de dono Hugonis comitis Regetensis ad me devenit" by charter dated Dec 1212[234].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini et Mathildis uxor eius” issued a charter dated Sep 1223 under the guarantee of “domini sui Theobaldi, Campaniæ et Briæ comitis palatini[235].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” acknowledged that “dominus meus Hugo Regitestensis comes ac domina mea uxor eius Felicitas, de assensu Hugonis primogeniti eorundem” had granted “vineas, domos...apud Sezannam” to “Mathildi uxori mee filie eorundem” by charter dated Dec 1224[236].  "Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins et Mahaud sa femme" transferred their rights in "l’héritage de leur niece, la fille du comte Hugues" to "leur frère Jean comte de Rethel"[237].  "Mahaud dame de Vervins et Thomas de Coucy son fils sire de Vervins" donated "Montigny dalès Poys" to "Gaucher comte de Rethel" by charter dated Oct 1255[238]

Thomas & his wife had five children: 

1.         THOMAS de Coucy (-before 1276)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "Thomas" as the son of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest"[239].  "Mahaud dame de Vervins et Thomas de Coucy son fils sire de Vervins" donated "Montigny dalès Poys" to "Gaucher comte de Rethel" by charter dated Oct 1255[240]Seigneur de Vervins et de Fontaines.  “Th....rois de Navarre, de Champaigne et de Brie, cuens palatins” arbitrated a dispute between “Manissier conte de Rethest” and “Thomas de Coucy chevalier seigneur de Vervin”, relating to “une fort maison en liu...Chastillon deseur Boulesicourt” built by the latter and a warranty given by “Gauchiers ses freres jadis cuens de Rethest” to “Mahault jadis dame de Vervin mere audit Thomas”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1268[241]m firstly ELISABETH de Looz, daughter of ARNOLD [IV] Comte de Looz & his wife Jeanne de Chiny (-before 1251).  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Thomas", son of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", married "Ysabellam filiam comitis Losensis Arnulphi", who died childless[242]m secondly (before Jun 1251) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Piquigny, widow of NICOLAS [VI] de Rumigny, daughter of GERARD de Piquigny Vidame d'Amiens & his first wife Laure de Montfort (-after 1257).  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Thomas", son of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", married secondly "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam"[243].  "Thomas de Cociaco junior miles et Margarita filia vice-domini de Piqueniaco uxor eius" granted privileges to Vaux de Cernay by charter dated Jun 1251[244].  The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified.  Thomas & his second wife had three children: 

a)         THOMAS de Coucy (-[Sep/Oct] 1285 or after)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "primogenitus Thomas", son of "Thomas" and his second wife "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam"[245].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name "li aisnez des fils...Thomas" as son of “Thomas...de Veruin” and his wife, adding that he died “au revenir d’Arragon[246].  The last statement presumably refers to the invasion by Philippe III King of France of Aragon in 1285.  Seigneur de Vervinsm ISABELLE [Aleide] d'Enghien, daughter of GERARD d'Enghien Heer van Zotteghem & his wife --- de Viane.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "primogenita domini Gerardi de Sottenghen" married "domino Thomæ de Couchi, domino de Wervino"[247], another passage in the same source naming her "Aelidem"[248].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "li aisnez des fils...Thomas", son of “Thomas...de Veruin”, married “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” and had two sons and one daughter[249].  Thomas & his wife had three children: 

i)          THOMAS de Coucy (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Thomas" and his wife “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” had “deux fils et une fille” and that the older son “Thomas” died “en la bataille de Courtray[250].  Seigneur de Vervins. 

ii)         JEAN de Coucy (-after 1303).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Thomas" and his wife “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” had “deux fils et une fille” and that the younger son “Iehan tenoit la terre de Vervin quand ce livre fut faits[251].  Seigneur de Vervins. 

iii)        daughter .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Thomas" and his wife “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” had “deux fils et une fille[252]

b)         JEAN de Coucy The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "secundus…Ioannes", son of "Thomas" and his second wife "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam"[253].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name "Iehan" as the second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier[254]m CATHERINE de Saint-Leu, daughter of RENAUD de Saint-Leu & his wife ---.  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "secundus…Ioannes", son of "Thomas" and his second wife "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam", married "filiam domini Renaldi de Sancto Lupo"[255].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, married “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu[256].  Jean & his wife had four children: 

i)          ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-young).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “li aisné...Enguerrand qui mourut enfans, li autre Guy et li tiers Thomas” as the three sons of "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, and his wife “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu[257]

ii)         GUY de Coucy (-after 1303).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “li aisné...Enguerrand qui mourut enfans, li autre Guy et li tiers Thomas” as the three sons of "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, and his wife “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu”, adding that the two younger sons “vivoient quand ce livre fut faits[258].  Seigneur de Boomont. 

iii)        THOMAS de Coucy (-after 1303).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “li aisné...Enguerrand qui mourut enfans, li autre Guy et li tiers Thomas” as the three sons of "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, and his wife “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu”, adding that the two younger sons “vivoient quand ce livre fut faits[259].  Seigneur de Saint-Leu. 

iv)       daughter .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, had “une fille mariée en Alemaigne[260]m (before 1303) ---. 

c)         MARIE de Coucy (-before Jul 1281)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…Thomæ Maria" married "domino Galtero de Torota"[261].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy le second" married “Gaucher de Torote” and had two daughters[262]"Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the souls of “mes deus femmes que jai eues...Biatris de Honnecourt et Marie de Vervin”, by charter dated Jul 1281[263]Gaucher châtelain de Noyon et de Thorote chevalier” notified that he and “Marie de Coucy jadis sa femme” had donated revenue from Braye to Foigny for their anniversaries by charter dated Aug 1281[264]m as his second wife, GAUCHER de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon, Seigneur de Thourotte et d'Honnecourt, son of JEAN de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife Agnes --- (-[1 Jun 1292/Mar 1293]). 

2.         YOLANDE de Coucy .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “Evrardo Raduel...Arnulfus primogenitus” married “Yolent filiam domini de Couchi, domini de Verwino[265]"Arnulphus castellanus Tornacensis et Yolendis uxor eius" exchanged properties with the abbey of Cysoing by charter dated Jul 1250[266]m ARNAUD de Mortagne Châtelain de Tournai Seigneur de Mortagne, son of EVERARD [IV] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai & his first wife Isabelle d’Enghien (-1265 or after). 

3.         FELICITE de Coucy (-1307)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "secunda…Felicitas", daughter of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", married "domino Balduino de Avesnes domino de Bellomonte"[267]Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated Jul 1257 by which "Baudouin d’Avesnes sire de Beaumont" consented to "son oncle Gaucher comte de Rethel" receiving the homage of "son frère Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins"[268]Balduinus de Avesnis dominus de Bellomonte et Felicitas eius uxor nec non et Johannes eorum filius unicus” founded a position at the hospital of Beaumont to serve “l’église du béguignage” by charter dated Jan 1281[269].  “Felicitas uxor quondam...domini Balduini de Avesnis domini de Bellomonte” appointed “dominum Henricum de Pontibus” to the position at the hospital of Beaumont to serve “l’église du béguignage” by charter dated 26 Dec 1306[270]m as his second wife, BAUDOUIN d'Avesnes, son of BOUCHARD d'Avesnes & his wife Marguerite II Ctss of Flanders, Ctss de Hainaut (Sep 1219-10 Apr 1295). 

4.         AGNES de Coucy (-1277).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “frater eius Gobbertus” succeeded "primogenitus Joffridus” (of “Juliana" and "domino Goberto de Asperomonte") married “Agnete filia domini Thomæ de Couchi” and had “duos...filios...primogeniti Joffridus et alterius Thomas” (who married “duas sorores, filias domini de Kieverain”) and “duas filias[271]m (1258) GOBERT [VII] Seigneur d'Aspremont, son of GOBERT [VI] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Juliane de Rozoy (-[24 Aug 1278/Apr 1280], bur Verdun Franciscan convent). 

5.         HELISENDEThe Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "quarta…Elisandis", daughter of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", was "abbatissa…Pacis Dominæ nostræ"[272].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la quarte fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy...Elisens" was “abbaisse de la Paix Nostre-Dame[273]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 3.    ROUCY

 

 

A.      COMTES de ROUCY (ORIGINS)

 

 

Roucy is a commune in the canton of Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, arrondissement of Laon, in the present-day French département of Aisne, north of Reims, in the Picardie region.  The castle of Roucy was built in [947/49] by Comte Ragenold.  He has been identified as the Viking raider Ragenold who is recorded between 923 and 926.  Twenty years later Comte Ragenold was recorded as the ally of Louis IV “d’Outremer” King of the West Franks in the 940s in his struggles against the Vermandois family.  He married the king’s stepdaughter (the daughter of his wife by her first marriage to Giselbert Duke of Lotharingia).  The transformation from Viking raider into royal ally appears implausible, although the family of the dukes of Normandy started out in a similar way.  There are two difficulties with the case of Ragenold: firstly, the gap of 20 years during which no record has been found of his activities, and secondly his marriage, apparently his first as there is no record of an earlier marriage or of any children born to an earlier wife, when he would have been in his late 40s.  It is possible that there were in fact two individuals named Ragenold, although if this hypothesis is correct there is no indication of the origin of the second Ragenold. 

 

 

1.         RAGENOLD (-after 926).  Flodoard records in 923 that "Ragenoldus princeps Nortmannorum" was operating “in fluvio Ligeri” [River Loire] and pillaged “Franciam trans Isaram” [River Oise] with help from “coniunctis sibi plurimis ex Rodomo” [Rouen], that “fideles Heriberti” with “Rodulfo privigno Rotgeri et Ingobranno comitibus” recaptured booty and freed prisoners, that Ragenold went “in pagum Atrabatensem” [Artois] where he was defeated by “comes Adelelmus” and took refuge “ad munitionem suarum”, and that King Raoul forced peace with “Nortmanni” after they devastated “pagum Belvacensem” [Beauvaisis][274].  The reference to the Loire suggests that Ragenold may have been a member of the group of Vikings who occupied Brittany in 919.  Flodoard records that “Raginardus” continued his raids in 924, attacking Burgundy, but that in 925 he was defeated by “Warnerius et Manasses comites, Ansegisus et Gotselmus præsules” at “montem Calaum” [Chalmont][275]The Chronicon Maceriense records in 925 that "Manasses Porcensis, Marcus Dulcomensis et Guarinus Castriencis" defeated "cum Reginaldo Rociensi Normannos apud Calvum montem"[276]Flodoard records that “Nortmannos” (without naming their leader) attacked “in pago Atrabatensi” in 926 but were again defeated[277]same person as...?  RAGENOLD [Renaud] (-10 May 967, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy)There is no record of Ragenold over the following twenty years, which suggests the possibility that the later entries do not refer to the same person, as further discussed in the Introduction to the present chapter.  Flodoard records in 944 that “Ragenoldus” attacked the abbey of Saint-Médard de Soissons at the same time as the king’s troops attacked “episcopatum Remensem[278].  The text of this passage suggests coordination, presumably based on an alliance, which appears confirmed by Flodoard’s record in 945 that King Louis “collecto secum Nortmannorum exercitu” attacked “Veromandinsem pagum” and his report that Hugues “le Grand” suggested that “Ragenoldus” represent the king at a conference organised after he defeated “Nortmannis[279].  Comte [de Reims]:  Flodoard records in 947 that "Ragenaldus comes et Dodo frater ipsius præsulis" (the latter referring to Artaud Archbishop of Reims) headed the army of the archbishopric of Reims against Hérivé, nephew of the previous archbishop[280]This passage suggests that Ragenold may have been installed as military chief at Reims after Artaud was restored as archbishop in 946.  It is not certain that Ragenold’s county at that time was Reims.  Orderic Vitalis refers to "filiam Rainaldi comitis Remorum" when recording her marriage (see below)[281].  However, Orderic was writing about a century after events in the mid-10th century and, in any case, it is likely that the archbishop of Reims enjoyed comital jurisdiction in the town.  A clearer statement is found in the (presumably contemporary) charter dated to [948/54], relating to the foundation of Charlieu abbey, which is subscribed by "Rainaldus Remensis comitis"[282]On the other hand, the unusual phrasing “comes Ludowici”, in the extract which follows, suggests that Ragenold owed his comital title directly to the king and that it may not have been linked to a geographical county, although this would have been unusual at the time.  Flodoard records in 948 that Hugues “le Grand” unsuccessfully besieged “munitionem...super Axonam fluvium in loco...Rauciacus” [Roucy] which was being built by “Ragenoldus comes Ludowici[283]Comte de RoucyFlodoard records in 949 that “Ragenaldus comes” built “munitionem...in fluvio Materna...apud Maroilum” [Mareuil][284]Flodoard in 949 records that "Ragenaldus comes" captured "castrum quondam Herivei…Castellionem"[285].  Flodoard in 950 names "Arnulfo comite et Ragenoldo atque Artoldo archiepiscopo" as the king’s representatives to negotiate the return fo the castle of Laon from Hugues “le Grand”, and also that “homines Ragenoldi comitis” captured “munitionem Rodomensis æcclesiæ super fluvium Vidulam...Brainam[286].  Flodoard in 953 records that "Ragenaldus comes" was threatened with excommunication for having taken property of the church of Reims, but that the king intervened on his behalf[287].  Flodoard in 954 records that "Heribertus comes" captured “Rauciacum munitionem Ragenaldi” but later returned it in exchange for “quibusdam villis[288].  He supported King Lothaire on his expedition to Aquitaine in 955[289]: Flodoard in 955 records that "Ragenaldus comes" captured “castrum...sanctæ Radegundis urbi” during the siege of Poitiers[290].  Flodoard in 966 records that "Odelricus archiepiscopus" excommunicated “Ragenaldum comitem” for having captured villages belonging to the church of Reims and that Ragenold pillaged the archbishop’s territories in revenge[291]A manuscript Noticia de benefactoribus S. Remigii includes the donation by “Rogenoldus comes” of “Curtem Cedronis” [Courtcedre][292].  The necrology of Reims records the death “VI Id Mai” of “Raginoldus comes[293]The Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis records that “Rainaldus consiliarus regis Hlotarii” died “mense Junio...anno nono ordinationis suæ”, the latter referring to Archambaud who was appointed as archbishop of Sens in 958, therefore the passage being dated to 967[294]m ALBERADE, daughter of GISELBERT Duke of Lotharingia & his wife Gerberga of Germany ([929/30]-, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy).  "Mathilde et Alberada" are named as daughters of "Gerberga" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which specifies that Alberada was mother of Ermentrudis but does not name Alberada's husband[295]Two epitaphs in the church of Saint-Rémy, Marly relate to "Ragenolde" and "Albrada", although neither refers to each other[296]Bouchard highlights the absence of proof that the husband of Alberade of Lotharingia was Ragenold Comte de Roucy[297].  She is named in a letter to Poppo of Stablo[298].  Count Ragenold & his wife had [four] children.  Their parentage is deduced by a combined reading of the different sources which refer to them.  None of these sources names both parents, so the affiliation is not beyond all doubt.  Comte Renaud & his wife had four children: 

a)         ERMENTRUDE ([947/52]-[5 Oct 1002/1004]).  "Ermentrudis" is named as daughter of "Alberada filia …Gerbergæ" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which does not name either her father or her husband but specifies that Ermentrudis was the mother of Agnes (Ctss de Poitou)[299], the latter naming both her parents in charters[300].  Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her son by her first marriage being named in 971.  "Ermentrudis conjuge sua" consented to the donation of land "in Aponiaco villa" by "Albericus comes Matisconensis" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Jan 971[301].  The date of her first marriage is indicated by her absence from the charter of "Albericus comes Matisconensis" dated Mar 966[302].  The genealogy of the Comtes de Mâcon, included in the cartulary of Saint-Vincent de Mâcon, records the marriage of "dominus Guillelmus comes" with the wife of "Albericus filius Leotaldi comitis"[303]Rodulfus Glaber states that "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" married the sister of "Brunone Lingonensi episcopo" who supported him in his rebellion against the king [Robert II][304].  Ermentrude's date of death is indicated by the Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon which records a donation by "Otto comes cognomento Willelmus" with "filii eius Rainaldi" dated 1004 "pro anima Hinrici Ducis, qui eum loco filii adoptavit et genitricis sue Gerberge uxoris predicti Ducis, ac filii sui Widonis et Hermintrudis coniugis"[305]m firstly (before 971) AUBRY [II] Comte de Mâcon, son of LETAUD Comte de Mâcon & his first wife Ermengarde [de Chalon] ([935/40]-after 17 Nov [before 981/82][306]).  m secondly (before [981/82]) as his first wife, OTHON GUILLAUME Comte de Mâcon et de Nevers [Bourgogne-Comté], son of ADALBERTO associate-King of Italy & his wife Gerberge de Chalon ([960/2]-Dijon 21 Sep 1026)

b)         GISELBERT ([948/55]-19 Apr [991/1000], maybe 997, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy).  The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum (dated to 991) quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertum…"[307]Comte de Roucy

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c)         daughter .  The Genealogia Comitum Flandriæ mentions "filiam Rainoldi comitis Remorum", without naming her, as wife of "Frotmundus"[308].  The Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis records that “Frotmundus” married “filiam Rainaldi Remoru Comitis[309].  Orderic Vitalis records that "Rainaldus comes vetulus Senonum...Fromundus filius eius" married "filiam Rainaldi comitis Remorum"[310].  While it is not certain that this indicates Renaud de Roucy, Reims was one of his early bases and no other "Comte de Reims" has been identified.  m FROMOND [II] Comte de Sens, son of RENARD [I] Comte de Sens & his wife --- (-1012). 

d)         BRUNO ([955/56]-29 Jan 1016).  His parentage is deduced from Rodulfus Glaber stating that "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" married the sister of "Brunone Lingonensi episcopo", when recording that the latter supported his brother-in-law in the latter's rebellion against the king [Robert II][311]Cleric at Reims.  Bishop of Langres 980.  The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon records that King Lothaire installed "Brunoni Remensis Ecclesie clerico…suo vero parenti propinquitate consanguinitatis" as bishop of Langres in 980[312], King Lothaire being the uterine half-brother of Bruno's mother.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the appointment of "Bruno clericus Remensis regis Lotharii propinquus" as bishop of Langres in 980 at the age of 24[313].  The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertum, meumque consobrinum comitem Guidonem"[314], although the latter has not been identified.  His necrology records the death of "Brunonis episcopi Lingonice" aged 60 after 36 years in his bishopric but does not specify his date of death[315]

 

 

GISELBERT [de Roucy], son of RENAUD Comte [de Roucy] & his wife Alberade de Hainaut ([948/55]-19 Apr [991/1000], maybe 997, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy).  The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum (dated to 991) quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertum…"[316]Comte de Roucy.  “...Gilbertus comes confirmavi...” subscribed the charter dated 26 May 974 under which Lothaire King of the Franks confirmed the possessions of the monastery of Saint-Thierry de Reims[317]Vicomte de Reims: Varin refers to a manuscript which records that “comte...Gislebert fils de Renaud comte de Reims et de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la vicomté [de Reims]...à l’abbaye de Saint-Rémi” while retaining the other half of the vicomté[318]The necrology of Reims Cathedral records the death "XIII Kal Mai" of "Gisbertus comes"[319]

m --- [de Poitiers].  Père Anselme states that the wife of "Gilbert Comte de Reims et de Roucy…semble avoir été de la maison de Poitiers" and that the couple were parents of Ebles, Liétard and Judith, shown below[320].  The primary source on which this is based is not known.  However, it is doubtful whether it can be correct in all its details.  In particular, Judith Ctss de Rethel (alleged daughter of Giselbert & his wife, see below) must have been born in [1020/30] for chronological consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants, which excludes her being Giselbert's daughter.  In addition, the origin of the names Ebles, Liétard and Judith is unclear among the family of Giselbert Comte de Roucy.  Jean-Noël Mathieu suggests that Giselbert died childless and that the father of these children was Ebles de Poitou, son of Guillaume IV "Fier-à-Bras" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume II Comte de Poitou] & his wife Emma de Blois, based partly on onomastics and partly to explain how the territories of Rumigny-en-Porcéan and Coucy (under the suzerainty, respectively, of the abbey of Saint-Nicaise de Reims and the church of Saint-Rémi de Reims, and thereby closely connected with the family of the Comtes de Blois-Champagne) came into the family[321].  J-N. Mathieu also suggests that the mother of these children was an otherwise unknown daughter of Ermentrude de Roucy, sister of Comte Giselbert, by her first husband Aubry [II] Comte de Macon who, in the ordinary course of events, would have been heiress of Roucy if Giselbert had died childless.  The suggestion appears consistent from a chronological point of view.  However, more research is needed to establish the original source on which the affiliation from Giselbert is based.  Another possibility is that Ebles and Eudes were sons of Giselbert, but that Lietaud and Judith were children born from a second marriage of their mother. 

Comte Giselbert & his wife had [four possible children]: 

2.         [EBLES (-11 May 1033).  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[322]Comte de Roucy 997.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the succession in 1023 as archbishop of Reims of "Ebalus qui fuit comes de Roseio"[323]Archbishop of Reims 1021.  Moranvillé casts doubt on the co-identity of Ebles Comte de Roucy with Ebles Archbishop of Reims[324].  He deems significant that Alberic uses “Roseio” in the passage cited above, whereas in all other passages in which he refers to the Roucy family he uses “Roceio”.  He also cites two sources which report the appointment of the new archbishop but make no reference to his reported Roucy origin.  Firstly, a letter of Fulbert Bishop of Chartres addressed to Guy Bishop of Soissons dated 1021[325], and secondly Hariulf’s Chronicle of Saint-Riquier[326].  Both these sources refer only briefly to the archbishop, without any description of his background, so the absence of any reference in them to his antecedents would not be surprising.  As for the difference in spelling Roseio/Roceio, this could be explained by a simple mistake or transcription error.  In any case, no reference has been found to any “comte de Roussy/Rousy”, as opposed to Roucy, at that time.  It is correct that there are numerous examples of information in Alberic which is disproved by other primary sources.  However, they are far outnumbered by cases in which his information is corroborated, and are insufficient to conclude that Alberic should be assumed to be unreliable.  The Annales Mosomagenses record the death in 1033 of “Oebalus Remorum archiepiscopus[327].  The necrology of Reims records the death “V Id Mai” of “dominus Ebalus archiepiscopus” and his donation of “ecclesiam de Betignivilla[328]m (divorced before 1021) as her first husband, BEATRIX de Hainaut, daughter of REGINAR IV Comte de Hainaut & his wife Hedwige de France (after [996]-).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Beatricem" as daughter of "Rainero comiti de Hainaco" & his wife Hedwige, naming her husband "Ebalus de Roceio"[329]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis gives more details, naming "Beatricem" daughter of "Hadevidem…comitissam Hainonensium" and specifying that she married "Ebalus de Roceio, cuius frater fuit Lebaldus de Malla et soror Iveta comitissa de Roitest" and later "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina"[330].  She married secondly ([1021]) Manassès de Ramerupt  "Calva-asina" [Montdidier].  Comte Ebles & his wife had two children:  

a)         ADELAIDE de Roucy ([1015/20]-1062)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[331]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[332]The Histoire de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi septemque filias...[333].  Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY)[334].  However, he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085.  Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060].  m HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier Seigneur de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-[1063]). 

b)         HEDWIGE de Roucy (-1070 or after)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that Hedwige married "Godefridus frater episcopi Gerardi Cameracensis"[335], although the bishop in question was the uncle of Hedwige's husband not his brother.  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife Beatrix, specifying that Hedwige married "Condefrido de Ruminiaco" by whom she had "filium nomine Nicholaum et filias, quarum una peperit ex Radulfo de Veteri-villa Ebalum de Flurines et Ermentrudem, matrem Guilelmi de Birbais; secunda filia Hadevidis de Rumiaco ex Godefrido de Ranst peperit filios Iohannem et Nicholaum, qui Nicholaus Arnulfum et Godefridum procreavit; tercia filia iam dicte Hadevidis copulate domino de Granci peperit ei Ebalum eiusdem loci dominum"[336].  The dating clause of a charter dated 1070, which records a donation made to Rumigny, records “...abbate Godefrido eiusdem loci, uxore eius Haduit...”, witnessed by “Godefridus advocatus, Nicolaus eius filius, Arnulfus frater eius...[337]m GODEFROI [IV] de Florennes, son of GODEFROI [III] Seigneur de Florennes [Rumigny] & his wife Gisela ---.  1066/78. 

3.         [EUDES "le Fort/fortis" (-27 Aug after 1021).  The necrology of the church of Reims records the death "VI Kal Sep" of "Odo Fortis frater domini Ebali archiepiscopi"[338]

4.         [LETAUD de Marle .  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[339].] 

-        SEIGNEURS de MARLE

5.         [JUDITH .  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio" and, in a later passage, "Iuetta soror…Letaldi de Marla" as mother of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[340]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Reitest, uxor comitis Manesserii Iutta” as sister of "fratres Ebalus comes de Roceio et Letardus domnus de Marla"[341].  Hugues de Rethel names his parents Manassès and Judith in a charter dated 1081 for the church of Braux[342].  However, Judith Ctss de Rethel must have been born in [1020/30] for chronological consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants, which excludes her being the daughter of Giselbert Comte de Roucy.  It is possible, as suggested above, that she was the uterine half-sister of Ebles Comte de Roucy, born from their mother's second marriage.  m MANASSES [III] Comte de Rethel, son of --- (-1081 or after).] 

 

 

 

B.      COMTES de ROUCY (MONTDIDIER)

 

 

EBLES de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier et de Roucy, Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife Adelaide de Roucy (-May 1103)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ebalus…de Roceio et Andreas de Ramerut et Arceis comites" as the two sons of "Hilduinus de Ramerut" & his wife Adelaide[343]Comte de RoucyThe Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ebalum comitem…et Andream comitem de Ramerut et filias" as children of "comes Helduinus [et] Adelaide"[344].  "Eblo de Roceio" donated property "in terra Morissarti" [Mortcerf] to the abbey of Saint-Martin de Pontoise by charter dated [1082][345]"Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated property to the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie by charter dated 1082[346].  Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "tyrannide fortissimo et tumultuosi baronis Ebali Ruciacensis et filii eius Guischardi" devastated the lands of the church of Reims[347]

m (before 1082) SIBYLLE de Apulia, daughter of ROBERT “Guiscard” Duke of Apulia & his second wife Sichelgaita di Salerno.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Sybilla" as wife of "comitis Ebali de Roceio" but does not give her origin[348].  The Alexeiad records that Robert "Guiscard" married "the other [daughter] to Eubulus who was himself a count of great distinction" but does not name her[349].  "Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated property to the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie by charter dated 1082[350]

Comte Ebles & his wife had [seven] children: 

1.         GUISCARD de Roucy (-[1153/54]).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[351].  Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "tyrannide fortissimo et tumultuosi baronis Ebali Ruciacensis et filii eius Guischardi" devastated the lands of the church of Reims[352]Comte de Roucy.  The Annales Mosomagenses record 1153 “bellum inter Sansonem archiepiscopum Remensem et Guiscardum comitem de Roceio[353]

2.         THOMAS de RoucyThe Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[354]

3.         HUGUES "Cholet" de Roucy ([1090]-[1160], bur Reims St Thierry)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[355]Comte de Roucy

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4.         [EBLES de Roucy (-before 1157).  Moret de la Fayole names “Eble de Roucy” as a younger son of Comte Ebles but does not cite the corresponding primary source[356].  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.]  m ---.  The name of Ebles's wife is not known.  Ebles & his wife had one child: 

a)         EBLES de Roucy (-after 1157).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Moret de la Fayole names “Eble de Roucy” as father of “un autre Eble” who shared “la disme de Roucy” with “Thomas et Petronille de Roucy ses cousin et cousine”, referring to the donation to Marmoutier dated 1157 which is cited below[357]

5.         [MANASSES de Roucy (-before 1157).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Moret de la Fayole names “Manasse de Roucy” as another younger son of Comte Ebles, indicating that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter dated 1157 under which “Thomas de Roucy et Petronille sa sœur femme de Raoul Comte de Vieille-vigne, enfans de Manasses de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la disme de Roucy, qu’ils tenoient d’Eble de Roucy leur cousin[358].]  m ---.  The name of Manassès's wife is not known.  Manassès & his wife had one child:

a)         THOMAS de Roucy (-after 1157).  Moret de la Fayole indicates that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter dated 1157 under which “Thomas de Roucy et Petronille sa sœur femme de Raoul Comte de Vieille-vigne, enfans de Manasses de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la disme de Roucy, qu’ils tenoient d’Eble de Roucy leur cousin[359]m ---.  The name of Thomas’s wife is not known.  Thomas & his wife had one child: 

i)          GUILLAUME de Roucy .  Moret de la Fayole indicates that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter (presumably undated) under which “Guillaume de Roucy fils de Thomas” donated “vingt-sous de rente à prendre sur la taille de Châlons sur Véele” to Marmoutier[360]

b)         PETRONILLA de Roucy (-after 1157).  Moret de la Fayole indicates that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter dated 1157 under which “Thomas de Roucy et Petronille sa sœur femme de Raoul Comte de Vieille-vigne, enfans de Manasses de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la disme de Roucy, qu’ils tenoient d’Eble de Roucy leur cousin[361].  The Chronicon Lætiense names "Petronilla cognomento Comitissam" as wife of "apud Veterem-villam comes Radulphus", specifying that she was "cognata…Ebali qui filius fuit Hilduini comitis de Roci" and that her husband founded the church of Gociliis[362]m RAOUL Comte de Vieille-Ville, son of ---.  Raoul has not been identified, otherwise than the references in the sources quoted above.  One child: 

i)          EBLES de Vieille-Ville .  The Chronicon Lætiense names "Ebalus filius [Petronillæ]"[363]

6.         MABILE de Roucy (-after 1122)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo congnomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned first) married "Hugoni de Puisat" by whom she had "Hugonem de Gata"[364]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Hugoni de Puisato" as sister of "Wichardum de Rocheio et comitem Hugonem Cholet"[365].  William of Tyre names the wife of Hugues du Puiset "Mamilia filia domini Hugonis Cholet comitis de Ruci[366], but it appears more acceptable chronologically for Mabile to have been the daughter of Comte Ebles II than of Comte Hugues de Roucy.  William of Tyre records her marriage to "fratri comitis Namura" and his installation to succeed his wife's first husband as Lord of Jaffa[367]m firstly HUGUES du Puiset, son of HUGUES [I] du Puiset “Blavons” & his wife Alix de Montlhéry (-[1118]).  m secondly ([1118/19]) ALBERT de Namur, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 1122).  He was installed as Lord of Jaffa in succession to his wife's first husband. 

7.         AGNES de Roucy The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo congnomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) married "Godefridus de Ribodio" and, after his death, "domino de Basengi" by whom she had "Wiscardum eiusdem loci dominum"[368]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to another sister of "Wichardum de Rocheio et comitem Hugonem Cholet" as wife first of “mariti sui de Ribodimonte” and secondly of “domno de Claromonte in Basigneio[369]m firstly GODEFROI [I] de Ribemont, son of ANSELME [II] de Ribemont & his wife Berthe ---.  m secondly (before 1119) SIMON [II] Comte de Clefmont [en Bassigny], son of --- (-after [1130]). 

 

 

HUGUES "Cholet" de Roucy, son of EBLES [II] Comte de Roucy & his wife Sibylle of Apulia ([1090]-[1160], bur Reims St Thierry)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[370]Comte de Roucy.  "Hugo comes de Roceio" donated property "in territorio Silvini" to Igny Notre-Dame, for the souls of “meæ et...uxoris meæ Richentiæ”, with the consent of “eiusdem uxoris meæ ac filii nostri Wicardi”, by charter dated 1148[371]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[372]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[373].  Seigneur de Nizy-le-Comte et de Sevigny. 

m firstly AVELINE, daughter of --- (-[after 1117]).  Moret de la Fayole names “Aveline” as the first wife of Comte Hugues but does not cite the primary source which confirms this information[374]The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  Europäische Stammtafeln specifies the date “1117” after Aveline[375], but no indication has been found of the source to which this date relates. 

m secondly (after 1117) RICHILDE von Staufen, daughter of FRIEDRICH I Duke of Swabia [Staufen] & his wife Agnes of Germany ([1100]-before 1154).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "comes Hugo Cholez" as sister of "ut dicitur, imperatoris Conradi" but does not name her[376].  "Hugo comes de Roceio" donated property "in territorio Silvini" to Igny Notre-Dame, for the souls of “meæ et...uxoris meæ Richentiæ”, with the consent of “eiusdem uxoris meæ ac filii nostri Wicardi”, by charter dated 1148[377]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[378]

Comte Hugues & his first wife had [one child]: 

1.         ADA de Roucy ([1117]-1172 or after)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et ceteri filii et filie" as children of "Hugo congnomento Cholez", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned first) married "Galchero de Moniai " by whom she had "Guidonem et Galcherum"[379]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one sister of "Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem" as wife of "Galtheiro de Monteisi" but does not name her[380]Europäische Stammtafeln shows Ada as her father’s daughter by his first wife[381].  No primary source has been identified which confirms that this is correct, although the chronology does suggest that Ada was older than the other children of Comte Hugues.  An undated charter under which "miles...Robertus de Courtenont" donated "medietatem decimæ de Fresne" to Meaux Saint-Pharon records the consent given by “Gaucherio de Castellione de cuius feodo res ipsa erat cum uxore sua Ada[382].  A charter dated 1146 records that "Gaucherus de Castellione Hierosolymam ire volens" donated property to Notre-Dame de Châtillon, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Adæ et duorum filiorum meorum Guidonis et Gaucherii de Castellione[383].  "Guido de Castellione" donated property to Châtillon priory, by charter dated 19 Jan 1162 (O.S.), subscribed by “Gaucherius frater meus, Germundus, Simon de Monteacuto, Ernulfus de Roseio, Herbertus Rex, Ada mater mea...[384]m GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, de Toissy, de Montjay et de Crécy, son of HENRI Seigneur de Châtillon & his wife Ermengarde [de Montjay] (-killed in battle Laodicea 19 Jan 1148). 

Comte Hugues & his second wife had seven children: 

2.         GUISCARD de Roucy (-[1180/81])The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et ceteri filii et filie" as children of "Hugo cognomento Cholez"[385].  "Hugo comes de Roceio" donated property "in territorio Silvini" to Igny Notre-Dame, for the souls of “meæ et...uxoris meæ Richentiæ”, with the consent of “eiusdem uxoris meæ ac filii nostri Wicardi”, by charter dated 1148[386]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[387]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[388]Comte de Roucy"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[389]Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[390]m (before 1154) as her second husband, ELISABETH de Mareuil Dame de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, widow of ROBERT de Pierrepont Seigneur de Montaigu, daughter of JEAN Vicomte de Mareuil Seigneur de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne & his wife --- (-1207 or after).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Wichardum novissimum" as "relicta Roberti de Monteacuto…filia Iohannis vicecomitis de Marvellis" but does not name her[391]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[392]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[393]"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[394]Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[395]"Guillelmus…abbas…Sancti Petri et Sancti Huberti in Ardennia" sold the abbey’s rights in a mill near Evergnicourt on the river Aisne to "Elizabeth dominæ de Novo Castro" by charter dated 1201[396]She married thirdly (1202) Renaud de Montdiviel"Renaud de Montdiviel et sa femme Elisabeth, veuve du comte de Roucy" donated property at Evergnicourt, acquired by Elisabeth "pendant son veuvage", to the abbey of Valroy by charter dated 1202[397]Guiscard & his wife had six children: 

a)         RAOUL de Roucy (-1196)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Iohannem et Rodulfum" as sons of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife[398]"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[399]Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[400]Comte de Roucym ([1170/1180]) as her first husband, MELISENDE [Agnes/Isabelle] de Coucy, daughter of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his first wife Agnes de Hainaut.  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Agnes married firstly "Radulpho comiti de Roci", by whom she was childless, and secondly "comiti de Grandiprato"[401].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[402].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[403].  She married secondly Henri [III] Comte de Grandpré.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married "monseigneur Raoul conte de Rousci" who died childless, and secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre"[404].  Comte Raoul & his wife had [one child]: 

i)          [daughter (-after 1181).  Europäische Stammtafeln states that Raoul had one daughter “1181 Nonne zu Plesnoy”[405].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  If the information is correct, the daughter was presumably sent to the monastery as a young child, presumably because she was disabled in some way.  Nun at Plesnoy 1181.] 

b)         JEAN de Roucy (-1200)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Iohannem et Rodulfum" as sons of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife[406].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[407]Comte de Roucy"Johannes comes Roceii et mater mea Elysabeth comitissa" confirmed the donations to Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne by "Henricus frater meus" on his deathbed and by "pater meus comes Wischardus…et frater meus Radulfus comes Roceii", with the consent of "uxoris nostre Beatricis", by charter dated 1196[408]m (before 1196) BEATRIX de Vignory, daughter of BARTHELEMY Seigneur de Vignory & his wife Elvide de Brienne (-[1201/Aug 1210]).  "Johannes comes Roceii et mater mea Elysabeth comitissa" confirmed the donations to Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne by "Henricus frater meus" on his deathbed and by "pater meus comes Wischardus…et frater meus Radulfus comes Roceii", with the consent of "uxoris nostre Beatricis", by charter dated 1196[409]"Beatrix vicecomitissa de Marolio" donated property to Saint-Martin d’Epernay, for the soul of “mariti mei Ioannis comitis”, by charter dated 1201[410].  "Galterus dominus de Wainori" donated property which had been “de feodo bonæ memoriæ Beatricis sororis meæ quondam comitissæ de Rossy”, by charter dated Aug 1210[411].  Jean had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress. 

i)          HUGUES (-after 1200).  Seigneur de Proviseux: Moret de la Fayole records that Jean Comte de Roucy left “un fils naturel...Hugues” to whom his father gave “la seigneurie de Proviseux, qui dépend de celle de Neuf-Châtel sur Aisne” in 1200, specifying that “l’acte de cette donation est dans la Chambre des Comptes de Paris[412]. 

c)         GUISCARD de Roucy (-after 1180).  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[413]same person as...?  HENRI de Roucy (-1196).  Moret de la Fayole records that Elisabeth [widow of Guiscard] certified that “Isambert chevalier de Neuf-Châtel” renounced claims over “la terre de Banne”, in the presence of “Henrici filii mei”, by charter dated 1183[414]"Johannes comes Roceii et mater mea Elysabeth comitissa" confirmed the donations to Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne by "Henricus frater meus" on his deathbed and by "pater meus comes Wischardus…et frater meus Radulfus comes Roceii", with the consent of "uxoris nostre Beatricis", by charter dated 1196[415]

d)         EUSTACHIE de Roucy (-before [1211])The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Eustachiam" as one of the three daughters of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife, specifying that she was wife of "Robertus de Petraponte" and mother of "comes…Iohannes"[416].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[417].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[418].  “Robert de Pierrepont seigneur de Montaigu” approved donations to Foigny made by “Arnoul d’Arançot”, with the consent of “sa femme Eustachie”, by charter dated 1184[419].  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[420]Ctss de Roucy.  Her second marriage is confirmed as follows.  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[421].  Her second husband called himself Comte de Roucy in 1202: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[422]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant [Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy] ot trois femmes, la premiere...la contesse du Perche, la seconde...la contesse de Roucy", both marriages being childless[423].  While this source reverses the order of the marriages, it confirms that Enguerrand did at one time marry a comtesse de Roucy.  Du Chesne interprets the documentation differently, stating that Enguerrand married firstly "Beatrix de Vignory veuve de Jean I...comte de Roucy"[424].  The 1200 charter which names Eustachie indicates that Du Chesne cannot be correct and that Enguerrand’s wife was the widow of Robert de Pierrepont.  If the hypothesis shown here is correct, Enguerrand must have divorced Eustachie soon after the marriage.  She is named in a charter dated May 1208: "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth"[425], and Enguerrand’s second marriage is dated to [1204].  m firstly ([1180/19 Jun 1181]) ROBERT Seigneur de Pierrepont, son of HUGUES Seigneur de Pierrepont & his wife Clémence de Rethel (-before 1209).  m secondly (1200 or before, divorced [1200/04]) as his first wife, ENGUERRAND [III] Seigneur de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his second wife Alix de Dreux (-1243, bur Foigny). 

e)         EBLES de Roucy (-after 1180).  "Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[426]Canon at Reims 1180.  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[427]

f)          BEATRIX de Roucy (-after 1180).  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[428]

3.         EBLES de Roucy (-after 1154).  "Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[429]

4.         HUGUES de Roucy (-after 1156).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names “Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem patrem Ebali de Bosco” as sons of "comes Hugo Cholez" & his wife[430]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[431]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[432].  Seigneur de Thony et de Bois.  m EVA de Courlandon, daughter of ---.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the mother of "Ebali de Bosco" as "de Curia Landonis" but does not name her[433]Europäische Stammtafeln names her “Eva”[434], but the primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. 

-        SEIGNEURS de TOSNY et du BOIS[435]

5.         CLEMENCE de Roucy The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et ceteri filii et filie" as children of "Hugo cognomento Cholez", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) married "Guermundus de Chastelun" by whom she had "Guermundum"[436]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[437].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one sister of "Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem" as mother of "Wormundi de Castellioni" but does not name her[438]m GUERMOND de Châtillon Seigneur de Sevigny, son of ---. 

6.         AVOIE de Roucy .  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  Moret de la Fayole names “Avoie de Roucy” as a younger daughter of Comte Hugues, specifying that she died childless, but does not cite the corresponding primary source[439]

7.         SIBYLLE de Roucy (-after 1154).  "Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[440]

8.         SARA [Agnes] de Roucy (-after 1154).  "Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[441].  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.   m GUY Seigneur de Soupir, son of ---. 

 

 

The following small family group has not been connected with the above family. 

 

1.         HILDUIN .  Comte de Roucy.  m ---.  The name of Hilduin's wife is not known.  Hilduin & his wife had one child: 

a)         EBLES de Roucy .  The Chronicon Lætiense names "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci"[442]m PETRONILLA, daughter of ---.  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the burial in this church of "domina Petronilla et…eius dominus Ebalus"[443].  Ebles & his wife had four children: 

i)          BEATRIX .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that Beatrix (mentioned first) married "Walterus de Fontanis" and by him was mother of "Walterus miles inclitus et Alis"[444].  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the burial in this church of "Beatrix de Fontanis [et] …Walterus filius eius, ad dexteram vero Beatrix de Trivire, filia domine Ade Letiensis, ad sinistram domini Ebali Henricus, miles…filius Willelmi de Birbaco.  Cuius Henrici frater Theodericus et uxor eius Basilia"[445]m GAUTHIER de Fontaine, son of ---. 

ii)         daughter .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that one (mentioned second, unnamed) married "Alardus de Castelin" and by him was mother of "Walterum et…Petronillam"[446].  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the burial in this church of "Heluidis de Castelin et…filius eius Walterus"[447]m ALARD de Châtelain, son of ---. 

iii)        daughter .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that one (mentioned third, unnamed) married "Henricus de Birbais" and by him was mother of "Willelmum"[448]m HENRI de Birbais, son of ---. 

iv)       daughter .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that one (mentioned fourth, unnamed) married "Willelmus de Alta-rippa" and by him was mother of "Philippum et Cononem.  De Philippo nati sunt Clarembaudus et Iacobus archidiaconus Laudunensis ex matrona nobili Anfilis"[449]m GUILLAUME de Hauterive, son of ---. 

 

 

 

C.      COMTES de ROUCY (PIERREPONT)

 

 

ROBERT de Pierrepont, son of HUGUES de Pierrepont & his wife Clémence de Rethel (-before 1200).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[450].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[451]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[452]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[453]Excommunicated 1183.  Seigneur de Montaigu: “Robert de Pierrepont seigneur de Montaigu” approved donations to Foigny made by “Arnoul d’Arançot”, with the consent of “sa femme Eustachie”, by charter dated 1184[454].  Seigneur de Pierrepont:  Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[455]Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[456]Comte de Roucy.  The date of his death is estimated from the 1200 charter quoted below under his wife. 

m ([1180/19 Jun 1181]) as her first husband, EUSTACHIE de Roucy, daughter of GUISCARD Comte de Roucy & his wife Elisabeth de Mareuil (-[May 1208/1211]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Eustachiam" as one of the three daughters of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife, specifying that she was wife of "Robertus de Petraponte" and mother of "comes…Iohannes"[457].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[458].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[459].  “Robert de Pierrepont seigneur de Montaigu” approved donations to Foigny made by “Arnoul d’Arançot”, with the consent of “sa femme Eustachie”, by charter dated 1184[460].  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[461].  She succeeded her brother as Ctss de Roucy.  She married secondly (1200 or before, divorced [1200/04]) as his first wife, Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy.  The justification for this second marriage is as follows.  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[462].  Her second husband called himself Comte de Roucy in 1202: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[463]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant [Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy] ot trois femmes, la premiere...la contesse du Perche, la seconde...la contesse de Roucy", both marriages being childless[464].  While this source reverses the order of the marriages, it confirms that Enguerrand did at one time marry a comtesse de Roucy.  Du Chesne interprets the documentation differently, stating that Enguerrand married firstly "Beatrix de Vignory veuve de Jean I...comte de Roucy"[465].  The 1200 charter which names Eustachie indicates that Du Chesne cannot be correct and that Enguerrand’s wife was the widow of Robert de Pierrepont.  If the hypothesis shown here is correct, Enguerrand must have divorced Eustachie soon after the marriage.  She is named in a charter dated May 1208: "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth"[466], and Enguerrand’s second marriage is dated to [1204]. 

Robert & his wife had four children: 

1.         JEAN [II] de Pierrepont (-killed in battle Flanders 1251)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Eustachiam" as one of the three daughters of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife, specifying that she was wife of "Robertus de Petraponte" and mother of "comes…Iohannes"[467].  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[468]Comte de Roucy.  "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[469]"Johannes comes de Rocey et dominus de Petrapontis" exchanged property at Evergnicourt with Saint-Hubert, Ardenne by charter dated Sep 1225[470]m firstly (before 1221, divorced 1235) ISABELLE de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux & his second wife Yolande de Coucy (1188-after Sep 1242).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one of the seven daughters (mentioned second in the list) of "comiti de Brana Roberto" and his wife Yolande as the wife of "comes Iohannes de Roceio", specifying that their marriage was dissolved because they were "in quarto grado coniuncto"[471]Vicomtesse de Mareil.  "Ioannes comes Rociaci" acknowledged obligations to "Theobaldo comiti Campaniæ" which arose "postquam inter se et...uxorem Elizabeth de Brana auctoritate ecclesiæ divorcium fuerit separatim" by charter dated 1235[472]m secondly (before 15 Dec 1241) MARIE de Dammartin, daughter of SIMON de Dammartin Comte d'Aumâle & his wife Marie Ctss de Ponthieu (-after 1279).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to, but does not name, the four daughters of "comes de Pontivo Symon" (in order) as the wives of "rex Castelle de Hispanie Fernandus…natu maiorem filius vicecomitis de Castro Araudi…comitis de Augo…comes de Roceio"[473].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Maria comitissa Rociaci et domina Petro-ponti tutrix...Joannis filii mei, quem suscepi ex marito meo quondam comite Rociaci” donated property to Cuissac by charter dated 1256[474].  Jean [II] & his second wife had two children: 

a)         JEAN [III] de Roucy (-1282, bur Val-le-Roy)Moret de la Fayole records that “Maria comitissa Rociaci et domina Petro-ponti tutrix...Joannis filii mei, quem suscepi ex marito meo quondam comite Rociaci” donated property to Cuissac by charter dated 1256[475]Comte de Roucym (before 1260) ISABELLE de Mercœur, daughter of BERAUD [VI] Seigneur de Mercœur & his wife Beatrix de Bourbon (-after 1269, bur Val-le-Roy).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  Jean [III] & his wife had one child: 

i)          JEAN [IV] de Roucy (-killed in battle near Mons-en-Pucelle 1302, bur Val-le-Roy)Comte de Roucy

-         see below

b)         --- de Roucy .  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  m JEAN [I] de Garlande Seigneur de Possesse, son of ANSEAU de Garlande Seigneur de Tournan & his wife Alix --- (-before 1287). 

2.         HELISENDE de Pierrepont (-after 1192).  Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[476]

3.         ALIX de Pierrepont"Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[477]

4.         ELISABETH de Pierrepont (-after [1213/15]).  "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[478].  "Robertus de Cociaco dominus de Pinon et…uxor mea Elizabeth" granted rights to Pinon, with the consent of "fratrum meorum Ingelramni domini Marlæ et Thomæ domini de Veruino", by charter dated May 1213[479]m as his first wife, ROBERT de Coucy Seigneur de Pinon, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-after Mar 1234). 

 

 

The primary sources confirming the parentage and marriages of the following members of this family have not been identified, unless otherwise specified below. 

 

JEAN [IV] de Roucy, son of JEAN [III] Comte de Roucy & his wife Isabelle de Mercœur (-killed in battle near Mons-en-Pucelle 1302, bur Val-le-Roy)Comte de Roucy

m as her first husband, JEANNE de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT IV Comte de Dreux [Capet] & his wife Beatrix Ctss de Montfort (-11 Apr 1325).  The Livre du Lignage de Dreux et de Coucy records that “la seconde fille du Conte Robert et de la Contesse de Montfort…Jehanne” married “au Conte de Roucy”, by whom she had “deux filz et deux filles”, and secondly “Monsieur Jehan de Bar filz du Conte Thibaut[480].  Heiress of la Suze, inherited from her mother[481].  Ctss de Braine.  She married secondly (May 1304) Jean de Bar Seigneur de PuisayeThe testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property “mes villes de la conté de Rouci...[à] Jehan mon fil...” and to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[482]

Jean [IV] & his wife had four children: 

1.         JEAN [V] de Roucy (-killed in battle Crécy [25/26] Aug 1346, bur Val-le-Roy)Comte de Roucy.  The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property “mes villes de la conté de Rouci...[à] Jehan mon fil...[483]m (1308) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Bommiers, widow of JEAN [IV] de Bouville Seigneur de Milly-en-Gâtinais, daughter of THIBAUT de Bommiers dit de Blaison Seigneur de Bommiers & his first wife Marguerite de Villebéon (-after Nov 1350).  Letters dated 1293, relating to the marriage of "Jean de Boville fils de Monsieur Hue de Boville" and “Damoiselle Marguerite de Bomés fille de Monsieur Thibaut de Bomés Seigneur de Mirebel et de...Marguerite iadis sa femme”, record that “Messires Gautier Li Chambellans ayol de ladite Damoiselle” was receiving revenue from her inheritance[484]Her parentage and second marriage are confirmed by an order of Parlement dated 1323 relating to his daughter “la comtesse de Roucy...cum dicta comitissa fuerit filia et hæres prime uxoris defuncti Theobaldi...dotata...de castro de Montefalconis[485].  A charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[486].  Jean [V] & his wife had seven children: 

a)         JEAN de Roucy (-[1326/28]).  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  Seigneur de Picquigny, Vidame d’Amiens, de iure uxorism (Dec 1323) as her first husband, MARGUERITE de Picquigny Vidamesse d’Amiens, daughter of RENAUD de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Jeanne d’Eu (-after 4 Mar 1377).  She married secondly (Jul 1328) Gauthier de Noyers Seigneur d’Eclaron.  Her parentage and first and second marriages are confirmed by the charter dated 27 Dec 1329 under which Gauthier de Noyers agreed her dower from her first husband with Robert Comte de Roucy[487]She married thirdly ([29 Jul 1357/14 Nov 1359]) Raoul Seigneur de Raigneval, Seigneur de Pierrepont. 

b)         ROBERT [II] de Roucy (-1364)Comte de RoucyA charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[488]m (after 1329) as her second husband, MARIE d’Enghien, widow of ROBERT [V] Comte de Dreux et de Braine, daughter of GAUTHIER [II] Seigneur d'Enghien & his wife Yolande de Flandre (-after Oct 1378)A charter dated 23 Apr 1321 records an agreement between “Robert Comte de Dreux et de Braine, advouez de S. Walery et Marie de Enguien comtesse desdits lieux sa compaigne et espouse” and the abbey of Saint-Valéry[489]The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not been identified.  Robert & his wife had one child: 

i)          ISABELLE de Roucy (-after 1396)Dame de Roucy.  Moret de la Fayole records that Isabelle alienated her lands to pay her debts by consent of the king granted 11 Nov 1378 and that Louis Duc d’Anjou had bought the county of Roucy by 1383[490]m (17 May 1365) LOUIS de Namur Seigneur de Peteghem et de Bailleul, son of JEAN [I] Marquis de Namur [Flandre-Dampierre] & his second wife Marie d'Artois [Capet] ([1325]-[1378/86])

c)         HUGUES de Roucy (-after 9 Jul 1349)Seigneur de Pierrepont.  Vidame de Laonnais, Seigneur de Tournenfuye.  m (after Aug 1336) as her second husband, MARIE de Clacy Dame de Pontarcy, widow of HUGUES de Châtillon Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thiérache, daughter of BAUDOUIN Seigneur de Clacy Vidame de Laonnais & his wife --- (-after 15 Mar 1352).  Heiress of the Vidamé de Laonnois and of Clacy.   

d)         SIMON de Roucy (-Bois-lez-Roucy 18 Feb 1392, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Braine.  Seigneur de Tournenfuye et de Villebéon.  A charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[491]Comte de Roucy

-        see below

e)         BEATRIX de Roucy (-after 1348)The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[492]Dame de Bommiers.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  m LOUIS [II] Comte de Sancerre, son of JEAN [II] Comte de Sancerre & his first wife Louise de Bommiers (-killed in battle Crécy 26 Aug 1346). 

f)          JEANNE de Roucy (-10 Jan 1361, bur Abbaye du Val)The marriage contract between "monsieur Charles seigneur de Montmorency chevalier" and “damoiselle Ieanne de Roucy fille de...monsieur Iean comte de Roucy et de Braine et de...madame Marguerite de Bomez sa femme” is dated 26 Jan 1341[493]Dame de Blason et de Chimeliers-en-Anjou.  An epitaph at Val abbey records the death 10 Jan 1361 of “madame Ieanne de Roussy iadis fame de monseigneur Charles sire de Montmorency[494]m (contract Paris 26 Jan 1341) as his second wife, CHARLES [I] Seigneur de Montmorency, son of JEAN Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Jeanne de Calletot (-11 Sep 1381, bur Notre-Dame du Val). 

g)         THIBAUT de Roucy (-[1328/30]).  Canon at Chartres.  Canon at Cambrai. 

2.         son .  The Livre du Lignage de Dreux et de Coucy records that “la seconde fille du Conte Robert et de la Contesse de Montfort…Jehanne” married “au Conte de Roucy”, by whom she had “deux filz et deux filles”, and secondly “Monsieur Jehan de Bar filz du Conte Thibaut[495]

3.         MARIE de Roucy (-1343 or after).  Her parentage is indicated by the charter dated 12 Mar 1312 under which "...Ioannes comes de Roceyo et Guillelmus de Castrovillani canonicus Cathalaunensis...carnales amici de...Ioannis et Guillelmi liberorum quondam Ioannis de Castrovillani militis defuncti minorum annis...ex parte patris et matris propinqua linea consanguinitatis iunguntur" resisted the claim by “Guido, Simon, Robertus et Hugo de Castrivillani fratres patrui eorundem minorum” and swore to perform their duties[496]"Marie de Roussy iadis femme dudit monseigneur Iehan et mere desdiz enfans et Huguenin frere iadis dudit monseigneur Iehan" agreed the division of territories under the succession of “Simon de Chastelvillain iadis seigneur d’Arc pere de moy Huguenin dessusdit, de dame Marie de Flandres ma mere, de...monseigneur Iehan de Chastelvillain iadis evesque de Chaalons mon oncle...de monseigneur Iehan iadis seigneur de Chastelvillain ayeul de moy Huguenin, de damoiselle Aalis sa fille ma tante et de Guiot, Simon et Robert mes freres clercs” by charter dated Aug 1313[497].  The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[498]"Iean de Chasteauvillain et Guillaume son frere" approved the testament ofMarie de Roucy dame de Chasteauvillain leur mere” dated 1343[499]m JEAN [II] Seigneur de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [II] Seigneur de Châteauvillain & his wife Marie de Flandre (-1312).  

4.         BEATRIX de Roucy (-7 Nov 1328, bur Angers Cordeliers).  Philippe IV King of France ratified the marriage contract between “Amauri seigneur de Craon” and "Jehan conte de Roucy...damoiselle Béatrix seur dudit comte" by charter dated Oct 1312[500]Heiress of la Suze, inherited from her mother[501].  The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[502]A manuscript of the Cordeliers d’Angers lists members of the Craon family buried "dans la chapelle Saint-Jean", including “Madame Béatrix de Roucy dame de Craon et seconde femme de monsieur Almaury sire de Craon” who died “en l’abit des frères” 7 Nov 1328[503]m (contract Oct 1312) as his second wife, AMAURY [III] Seigneur de Craon, son of MAURICE [V] Seigneur de Craon & his wife Mathilde Berthout van Mechelen ([1280]-26 Jan 1333, bur Angers Cordeliers).  

 

 

SIMON de Roucy, son of JEAN [V] Comte de Roucy et de Braine & his wife Marguerite de Bommiers (-Bois-lez-Roucy 18 Feb 1392, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  A charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[504]Comte de Braine.  Seigneur de Tournenfuye et de Villebéon.  Comte de RoucyMoret de la Fayole records that Simon puchased the county of Roucy from Louis Duc d’Anjou 5 Jun 1385, confirmed in 1387 and 1390[505]

m MARIE de Châtillon Dame de Pont-Arcy, daughter of HUGUES de Châtillon-sur-Marne Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thiérache & his wife Marie de Clacy (-11 Apr 1396). 

Simon & his wife had five children (Europäische Stammtafeln shows Hugues de Roucy & his wife Marie de Clacy as parents of the following children[506], but other secondary sources show Simon & his wife as their parents which is more plausible[507]): 

1.         HUGUES de Roucy (-25 Oct 1395, bur Braine Saint-Yved)Comte de Braine.  Comte de Roucym BLANCHE de Coucy Dame de Montmirail, daughter of RAOUL de Coucy Seigneur de Montmirail & his wife Jeanne d’Harcourt (-24 Feb 1410, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Hugues [II] & his wife had six children: 

a)         JEAN [VI] de Roucy (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Braine.  Comte de Roucym (1398) as her first husband, ISABELLE de Montaigu Dame de Marcoussis et de Germaine, daughter of JEAN de Montaigu Seigneur de Montaigu & his wife Jacqueline de la Grange (-Lyon Oct 1429, bur Marcoussis, monastère des Célestins)The Geste des Nobles records that “messire Jehan de Montagu...sa première fille” married “le conte de Brayne et de Roucy[508]She married secondly ([1416]) Pierre de Bourbon Seigneur de Préaux.  Jean [VI] & his wife had one child: 

i)          JEANNE de Roucy (-3 Sep 1459, bur Dreux).  Dame de Roucy et de Braine.  m (Braine 1414) ROBERT Seigneur de Commercy, son of AME Seigneur de Commercy & his wife Marie de Châteauvillain Dame de Louvois (-Louvois [1464/65], bur Commercy). 

b)         HUGUES de Roucy (-18 Aug 1412).  Seigneur de Pierrepont. 

c)         MARGUERITE de Roucy (-after 14 Apr 1419).  A continuation of the Chronica Jacobi de Aquis records that "Thomas", son of "Frederico…Marchese di Salucio", married "Margarita figlia del Conte Derosi"[509].  The contract of marriage between "Marchese Tomaso di Saluzzo" and "la damigella Margarita de Roucij" naming "il Vescovo di Laon ed il Conte di Braime Zio e fratello rispettivamente della detta Margarita" is dated 17 Jul 1403[510]m (contract 27 Jul 1403) TOMASO III Marchese di Saluzzo, son of FEDERIGO I Marchese di Saluzzo & his first wife Marguerite de la Tour du Pin [Viennois] (-after 5 Oct 1416, bur Saluzzo Santo Domingo). 

d)         JEANNE de Roucy (-after 31 May 1445).  The marriage contract of "François d’Albret seigneur de Saincte Bazeilhe" and "damoyselle Jehanne de Roucy" is dated 21 May 1405[511].  A charter dated 1445 records the agreement between "messire Charles sire d’Albret" and "dame Jehanne de Roucy" concerning the succession of "Françoys d’Albret seigneur de Saincte Bazeilhe"[512]m (contract 21 May 1405) FRANÇOIS d’Albret Seigneur de Sainte-Bazeille, son of BERARD d’Albret & his wife Hélène de Caumont (-[21 Mar 1440/31 May 1445]). 

e)         BLANCHE de Roucy (-22 Aug 1421, bur Vendôme, église Saint-Georges)Père Anselme records her marriage contract dated 21 Dec 1414, the date of her death and place of burial, without citing the primary sources on which the information is based[513]m (contract 21 Dec 1414) as his first wife, LOUIS de Bourbon Comte de Vendôme, son of JEAN I de Bourbon Comte de la Marche et de Vendôme & his wife Catherine Ctss de Vendôme et de Castres ([1375/76]-Tours 21 Dec 1446, bur Vendôme, église Saint-Georges ([1375/76]-Tours 21 Dec 1446, bur Vendôme, église Saint-Georges)

f)          ISABELLE de Roucy (-9 Oct 1399, bur Soissons Notre-Dame).  

2.         JEAN de Roucy (-12 Jun 1418, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Archdeacon at Meaux.  Bishop of Laon 1385. 

3.         SIMON de Roucy (-25 Jun 1402, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Seigneur de Pont-Arcy. 

4.         MARIE de Roucy (-1416)m JACQUES d’Enghien Châtelain de Mons Seigneur d’Havré, son of --- (-15 Dec 1427). 

5.         MARGUERITE de Roucy (-Mar 1380)m firstly GAUCHER [V] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse et de Drony, son of ERARD [III] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Alix de Thianges (-after 1363).  m secondly ROBERT de Pinon Seigneur de Pinon, son of --- (-1377).  m thirdly HUGUES de Clary, son of --- (-Sep 1385, bur Saint-Fourey-de-Péronne). 

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de PIERREPONT

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         ROBERT de Pierrepont (-after 1036).  "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport, and confirmed donations, including the donation of “decimam de Cuvervilla quam tenebant de Oylardo domino eiusdem ville” made by “Roberti de Petreponte et Godefridi fratris eius”, by a charter dated 1036[514]

2.         GODEFROI (-after 1036).  "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport, and confirmed donations, including the donation of “decimam de Cuvervilla quam tenebant de Oylardo domino eiusdem ville” made by “Roberti de Petreponte et Godefridi fratris eius”, by a charter dated 1036[515]

 

 

1.         INGOBRAND de Pierrepont (-[before 1113]).  Seigneur de Pierrepontm ---.  The name of Ingobrand’s wife is not known.  Ingobrand & his wife had one child: 

a)         ROGER de Pierrepont (-after 1113).  The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that the church of Bucilly appointed “Rogero filio Ingobrandi domini de Petroponte” to “advocatiam hominum sancti Petri Buciliensis” in 1113[516].  Seigneur de Montaigu en Laonnois.  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[517]m ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-after 2 Nov 1117).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[518].  Roger & his wife had four children: 

i)          GUILLAUME de Pierrepont (-before 1149).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[519]

ii)         GUY de Pierrepont (-1147).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[520].  A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of property “in...villa Petreponti contigua, Saviaco” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Robertus de Petreponte”, with the consent of “uxore fratrum suorum Widonis et Walteri[521]Bishop of Châlons 1143.  The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1143 of “Gaufridus episcopus” and the succession of “Wido[522]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1143 of "apud Cathalaunem…episcopo Gaufrido" and the succession of "Guido de Monteacuto"[523]The Continuatio Praemonstratensis of Sigebert's Chronica records in 1143 the succession of “Guido” as “Catalauni...episcopus” after the death of “Gifrido[524].  The Continuatio Praemonstratensis of Sigebert's Chronica records in 1146 the death of “Guido Catalaunis episcopo[525]The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1147 of “Wido episcopus” and the succession of “Bartolomæus[526]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1147 of "Guido Cathalaunensis episcopus" and the succession of "Bartholomeus"[527]

iii)        ROBERT de Pierrepont (-after 23 Dec 1136).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[528].  A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of property “in...villa Petreponti contigua, Saviaco” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Robertus de Petreponte”, with the consent of “uxore fratrum suorum Widonis et Walteri[529].  Seigneur de Montaigu: he is named “Roberto de Monteacuto” by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois Fontaines when recording the marriages of his wife (see below).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Robert de Montaigu son frère” donated property to Laon Saint-Vincent for “Gautier dit Sans-terre” by charter dated 23 Dec 1136[530].  The necrology of Brogne records the death "III Kal Sep" of "Robertus vir nobilis Petrepontis dominus"[531].  It is not known to which Robert de Pierrepont this entry refers.  m as her first husband, ELISABETH de Mareuil Dame de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, daughter of JEAN Vicomte de Mareuil Seigneur de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne & his wife --- (-1207 or after).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Wichardum novissimum" as "relicta Roberti de Monteacuto…filia Iohannis vicecomitis de Marvellis" but does not name her[532].  She married secondly Guiscard Comte de Roucy"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[533].  "Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[534].  "Guillelmus…abbas…Sancti Petri et Sancti Huberti in Ardennia" sold the abbey’s rights in a mill near Evergnicourt on the river Aisne to "Elizabeth dominæ de Novo Castro" by charter dated 1201[535]She married thirdly (1202) Renaud de Montdiviel"Renaud de Montdiviel et sa femme Elisabeth, veuve du comte de Roucy" donated property at Evergnicourt, acquired by Elisabeth "pendant son veuvage", to the abbey of Valroy by charter dated 1202[536]

iv)       GAUTHIER de Pierrepont (-before 23 Dec 1136).  A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of property “in...villa Petreponti contigua, Saviaco” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Robertus de Petreponte”, with the consent of “uxore fratrum suorum Widonis et Walteri[537].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Robert de Montaigu son frère” donated property to Laon Saint-Vincent for “Gautier dit Sans-terre” by charter dated 23 Dec 1136[538]

 

 

1.         DREUX de Pierrepont (-after 1144).  “Drogo de Petrefonte, Radulphus Flamens...” witnessed the charter dated 1144 under which “Radulphus...Cosduni oppidi dominus” donated “decima altaris Sancti Hylarii Cosduni” to Saint-Amand[539]

 

 

The parentage of Hugues is uncertain.  He names Robert de Pierrepont as his “avunculus” in the charter dated 1149 quoted below.  He could have been either the son of Guillaume de Pierrepont or the son of a sister of Guillaume who inherited Pierrepont after the death of her brothers without direct heirs.  As Hugues is named “Hugues de Vasnove” in the 1149 charter, the latter possibility seems more likely.  Hugues names “Guy” and “Robert” as his predecessors in the charter dated 19 Jun 1181 quoted below: Robert was presumably his uncle, the identity of Guy has not been ascertained. 

1.         HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”] (-[1188/90])Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Vasnove” confirmed the donation of “Saumoncey, Beauvoir” to Laon Saint-Martin, donated by “avunculi sui Roberti de Monte-acuto” but which he had wrongly claimed, by charter dated 1149[540].  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[541]The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[542]The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “Hugo de Wasnou…” in De Monte Felicis[543].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[544]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[545].  “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” declared “selusam molendini de Brangecort” the property of Tournai Saint-Martin by charter dated 1188[546].  He had died by 1190 when his son Robert was named as seigneur de Pierrepont (see below).  m CLEMENCE de Rethel, daughter of ITHIER Comte de Rethel Châtelain de Vitry & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-after 1190).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[547].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[548]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[549].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[550].  The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[551]The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[552].  “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[553].  “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[554]Hugues & his wife had six children: 

a)         ROBERT de Pierrepont (-before 1200).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[555]Comte de Roucy

-        COMTES de ROUCY

b)         GAUTHIER de Pierrepont (-after 1183).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[556].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[557]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[558]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[559]

c)         GUILLAUME de Pierrepont (-[Acre] [1191/92]).  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[560]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[561]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[562]The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Willelmus de Petreponte" among those who died in Palestine in [1191], presumably at the siege of Acre[563]

d)         MARGUERITE de Pierrepont .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[564].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[565]m GUILLAUME Seigneur d’Eppa, son of --- (-before 1231). 

e)         BEATRIX de Pierrepont .  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[566]The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.   “Willielmus de Warenna” donated property to St Mary Overey Priory; Southwark, for the souls of “patris mei Reginaldi et matris meæ Aliciæ et Beatricis uxoris meæ et Reginaldi filii nostri et Beatricis et Isabellæ filiarum nostrarum”, by undated charter[567]m as his first wife, WILLIAM de Warenne, son of RAINALD de Warenne & his wife Alice de Wormgay (-after 24 Jan 1191). 

f)          HUGUES de Pierrepont (-Huy 12 Apr 1229, bur Liège Saint-Lambert).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[568].  He was presumably born after, or not long before, the charter dated 1171 quoted above in which his other known brothers and sisters are named.  Bishop of Liège 1200.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1200 that different factions supported the election of three candidates at Liège after the death of Bishop Albert: "domnum Conrardum monachum adhuc novitium de Villariis...post...abbas Clarevallis et cardinalis...Henricum archidyaconum qui dicebatur de Iacia...Hugonis eiusdem ecclesie prepositum...filius...Hugonis de Wasnadio frater Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadio quorum mater...Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensi" (without naming the principal supporters of each candidate), but that Hugues prevailed and held office for 29 years[569]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1227 that “Hugo Leodiensis episcopus” was elected as archbishop of Reims but refused, and that “archidyaconus Remensis Henricus”, who had the previous year renounced his election as bishop of Châlons, was chosen following a second election and consecrated “in octavia pasche[570]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1227 that “episcopus Hugo Leodiensis” exchanged “villam de Maderiis” for “oppido Sancti Trudonis et...duabus abbatiis Walciodoro et Hasteriis” with “episcopo Metensi[571].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that “Hugo Leodiensis episcopus” became infirm “in castro Hoyensi”, died “pridie Id Apr”, and was buried “Leodium...in ecclesia beati Lamberti”, and quotes his epitaph “Francia me genuit, cathedravit Legia...Hugo fui Petraponte satus[572].  The necrology of Brogne records the death "II Id Apr" of "domnus Hugo Leodiensis episcopus"[573]

 

 

Two brothers, parentage not yet ascertained.  Robert Seigneur de Pierrepont could not have been the same person as Robert de Pierrepont Comte de Roucy because of the name of his mother-in-law (unless there is an error in the extract of the 1191 charter quoted below, which is not impossible).    

1.         ROBERT de Pierrepont (-after 1191).  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  “Robert Sr de Pierrepont” confirmed possessions of Signy at Lavergny, with the consent of “Clémence mère de sa femme et de ses enfants et de Gautier son frère”, by charter dated 1191[574]m ---, daughter of --- & his wife Clémence ---.  “Robert Sr de Pierrepont” confirmed possessions of Signy at Lavergny, with the consent of “Clémence mère de sa femme et de ses enfants et de Gautier son frère”, by charter dated 1191[575]

2.         GAUTHIER de Pierrepont (-afgter 1191).  Robert Sr de Pierrepont” confirmed possessions of Signy at Lavergny, with the consent of “Clémence mère de sa femme et de ses enfants et de Gautier son frère”, by charter dated 1191[576]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 4.    SOISSONS

 

 

 

A.      COMTES de SOISSONS

 

 

1.         WALDRIC (-after 19 Jun 966)Comte de Soissons.  "Gaufridus…Andecavorum comes" issued a charter dated 19 Jun 966 subscribed by "…Waldrici Suessionionis comitis"[577]

 

 

1.         GUY [I], son of [HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adela [Capet]] (-after [986]).  Dormay, in his Histoire de la ville de Soissons, records that "M. Renaut…dit avoir vu un manuscrit de Sainte-Croix d’Offemont, lequel ne se trouve plus" in which "Guy Comte de Soissons est appellé fils de Heribert Comte de Vermandois"[578]Comte de Soissons.  "…Wido comes…" confirmed the charter dated Jun 974 under which Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Thierry near Reims[579].  Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Eloy de Noyon, established by "piæ memoriæ nepos noster Lyudulfus Noviomanorum episcopus…assentientibus fratribus suis nepotibus nostris Alberto Viromandensi comite et Guidone", by charter dated to [980/986], signed by "Alberti Viromandensis comitis, Guidonis fratris eius…"[580].  "Adalbertus comes, Heriberti comitis, Vidonis comitis…" subscribed the charter dated to [980] under which "Adalbertus comes…in meo Virodumensi comitatu" founded the abbey of Mont-Saint-Quentin near Péronne[581].  He visited Rome in the mid-980s: Gerbert requested "Stephano Romanæ æcclesiæ diacono" to return books to him by "Guidonem Suessonicum comitem", dated to late 984[582]m [as her first husband, ADELISA, daughter of GILBERT/GISELBERT Comte & his wife ---.  The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[583].  If this is correct, she married secondly (992) Nocher [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube.  However, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[584], the wife of Comte Nocher was the daughter of Guy Comte de Soissons, although the primary source on which this is based is unknown.  The identity of Adelisa’s supposed father has not been traced.]  Guy & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         [ADELISA de Soissons .  According to the Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, the wife of Nocher [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine was the widow of Guy Comte de Soissons who married Nocher as her second husband "en 992"[585].  However, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[586], the wife of Nocher was the daughter of Guy Comte de Soissons, although the primary source on which this is based is not known.  It is uncertain which version is correct, but as noted below under Renaud Comte de Soissons there are indications that the Acta Sanctorum version provides a more credible explanation of events.  m NOCHER [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, son of ACHARD & his wife [Achardia ---].] 

b)         [RENAUD de Soissons ([985/92]-early 1057).  The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[587].  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[588], he was Renaud, possible son of Nocher Comte de Bar-sur-Aube & his wife Adelisa Ctss de Soissons.  This is consistent with the same source stating that Nocher’s wife was the daughter, not the widow, of Guy Comte de Soissons, but the primary source (if any) on which the information is based has not been identified.  As Renaud named his son Guy, it appears more likely that the Acta Sanctorum version is correct.  Comte de Soissons.  Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[589]m ([after Feb 1031]) ---.  The name of Renaud's wife is not known.  Two sources may provide some indication of the family connections of Renaud’s wife.  Firstly, the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers ("fratres") of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus…frater iam dicti Helduini"[590].  It is clear from other sources that Guillaume Comte de Soissons descended from the family of the dukes of Normandy.  The only way in which the Genealogiæ could make sense is if "fratres" can be interpreted as including brothers-in-law (an interpretation which has been observed and confirmed as correct in other cases).  If that is correct, it is possible that Renaud’s wife had married firstly, as his second wife, Hilduin [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt.  If this is correct, Renaud would have married after 1032, the last date when Hilduin [II] is recorded.  This timing appears to fit with the general chronology of the Soissons family, although if it is correct it is likely that Hilduin’s widow would have been Renaud’s second wife.  Secondly, one version of the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) names “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus[591], the latter referring to Manassès Bishop of Cambrai and later Bishop of Cambrai, who was Renaud’s grandson, and the former to Manassès Archbishop of Reims who was the son of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims (see the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY).  It appears unlikely that the family connection was through the Normandy family of Renaud’s son-in-law Guillaume “Busac” d’Eu.  On the other hand, the connection may have been through the previous generation, asssuming that “avunculus” in the source in question can be interpreted loosely.  This second hypothesis would also provide an explanation for the introduction of the name Manassès into the family of the comtes de Soissons.  If this hypothesis is correct, Renaud’s wife was ---, niece of Guy Archbishop of Reims, daughter of ---.  Renaud & his wife had [two] children:

i)          GUY [II] de Soissons (-early 1057).  Comte de Soissons.  "…Guidone comite Suessionis…" witnessed a charter dated to [1042/44] under which "Guanilo thesaurarius Sancti Martini" donated property[592].  Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[593]

ii)         [ADELA (-[1105]).  Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge[594].  This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaume’s marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant.  No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage.  If Guillaume’s wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation.  She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct.  m GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).] 

 

 

 

B.      COMTES de SOISSONS (NORMANDY)

 

 

GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).  Guillaume of Jumièges names “Rodbertum...Willelmum Suessionensem comitem atque Hugonem Luxoviensem præsulem” as the three sons of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum” and his wife “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli[595]Comte de Soissons.  Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge[596].  [An undated charter, dated to the [1035/50], records the donation of "predium Heltonis quod possedit Gozelinus vicecomes" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité at Rouen, with the support of "Willelmus comes Normanniæ, et Willelmus, filius Willelmi comitis, qui et hæres Heltonis, et Robertus comes frater eius…Niellus…et Turstinus vicecomites", subscribed by "…filii Turchitilli Hugo et Goffridus necnon Walerannus comes", signed by "Gozelini vicecomitis, Heltonis, Willelmi heredis Heltonis, Walberti fratris Heltonis, Waleranni comitis, Alberici comitis, Heltæ filii Heltonis…"[597].]  An undated charter, dated to [1049], records that "Lezelina comitissa…cum filiis suis" was expelled "de castro Ou" and donated land on the banks of the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis Hugone, Willelmo, Rotberto"[598].  [The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus…frater iam dicti Helduini"[599]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines gives the same origin of "comes Suessionensis Guilelmus" naming him brother of "Manasses Calva-asina et…comitis Hilduinis de Ramerut"[600].  No explanation has been found for this discrepancy.]  "…Willemus comes Suessionensis…" witnessed the charter dated 29 May 1067 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the possessions of Saint-Martin-des-Champs[601]  

m [ADELA] [de Soissons, daughter of RENAUD Comte de Soissons & his wife ---] (-[1105]).  Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge[602].  This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaume’s marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant.  No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage.  If Guillaume’s wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation.  She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct. 

Comte Guillaume & his wife had four children: 

1.         RENAUD [II] de Soissons (-1099).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus"[603]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also names "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem" as children of "comes Suessionensis Guilelmus"[604]Comte de Soissons

2.         JEAN de Soissons (-after 1115)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that Jean succeeded his brother as Comte de Soissons[605]Comte de Soissonsm AVELINE de Pierrefonds, daughter of NIVELON [II] Seigneur de Pierrefonds & his wife Hawise --- (-12 May after 1119).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.   A charter dated 1119 records the settlement of a dispute between the monks of Saint-Jean-des-Vignes and "heres eius…comes Johannes" concerning property donated by "Aylaidis comitissa", after whose death "Johannes filius eius" disputed the donation, with the consent of "ipso puero comite et comitissa matre eius Avelina"[606].  The necrology of Reims [Saint-Rémi] records the death "XI Kal Jun" of "Avelina comitissa Suessionensis et monacha"[607].  Comte Jean & his wife had one child: 

a)         RENAUD [III] de Soissons (-after 1141).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Comte de Soissons.  A charter dated 1119 records the settlement of a dispute between the monks of Saint-Jean-des-Vignes and "heres eius…comes Johannes" concerning property donated by "Aylaidis comitissa", after whose death "Johannes filius eius" disputed the donation, with the consent of "ipso puero comite et comitissa matre eius Avelina"[608].  He transferred the county of Soissons to Ives II de Nesle in 1141 and became a monk[609]m BATHILDE, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  1137. 

3.         MANASSES de Soissons (-1 Mar 1108)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus"[610]Bishop of Cambrai 1095.  The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) records the disputes which arose following the death of Gerard Bishop of Cambrai, when the town of Cambrai chose “Francigenam...Manassen” whereupon the canons appointed “prepositum...Mascelinum” (and later “domnum Walcherum archidiaconum suum”, see above), while the inhabitants of Arras appointed “episcopum...Lambertum[611].  Another Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) provides a second version of events, including the intervention of “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus[612].  The Chronicon S. Andreæ records the council of Auvergne held by Pope Urban II in 1095 which decided in favour of Manassès[613]The Continuatio of Sigebert's Chronica from Anchin records in 1095 the succession, after "expulso ab episcopatu Cameracensi Walchero”, of “Manasses[614].  The Continuatio of Sigebert's Chronica from Anchin records in 1105, after "Manasse Cameracensi episcopo accepto monachico habitu”, the succession of “Odo primus abbas ex cœnobio sancti Martini Tornacensis æcclesiæ[615]Bishop of Soissons 1103.  The Gesta Galcheri Episcopi Cameracensis records that the Pope installed Manassès as bishop of Soissons after he left Cambrai[616].  The necrology of Soissons Saint-Jean records the death “Kal Mar” of “Manasses episcopus” and his donation of “altare de Bonnis, de Lostro...[617]

4.         --- de Soissons The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem, horum soror Yvoni de Nigella" gave birth to "comitem Radulfum"[618]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that one daughter (unnamed) married "Ivoni de Neella" by whom she had "Radulfum eiusdem castri dominum. Radulfus genuit Yvonem comitem Suessionis et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum Cameracensem archidiaconum"[619]m IVES de Nesle, son of --- (-after 1076). 

 

 

 

C.      COMTES de SOISSONS (NESLE)

 

 

1.         IVES de Nesle, son of --- (-after 1076).  “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1076 under which “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus[620]m --- de Soissons, daughter of GUILLAUME Comte de Soissons & his wife Adela Ctss de Soissons.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem, horum soror Yvoni de Nigella" gave birth to "comitem Radulfum"[621]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that one daughter (unnamed) married "Ivoni de Neella" by whom she had "Radulfum eiusdem castri dominum. Radulfus genuit Yvonem comitem Suessionis et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum Cameracensem archidiaconum"[622].  Ives & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         RAOUL [I] de Nesle (-1125 or after)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Radulfam" as son of "Yvoni de Nigella" & his wife[623].  Seigneur de Nesle.  m RAINURDE, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  1115.  Raoul [I] & his wife had five children: 

i)          IVES [II] de Nesle (-Aug 1178)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Yvonem et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum archidiaconum Cameracensem" as sons of "comitam Radulfam[de Nigella]"[624].  Seigneur de Nesle.  Comte de Soissons.  "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" issued a charter relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis", dated to [1161][625]"Ivo comes Suessionensis et dominus Nigellensis" donated property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxor mea Hyolens...nepos meus Cono heres meus et dominus Petrifontis”, by charter dated to [1175][626]The Chronicon Hanoniense records the death "1178…in introitu mensis Augusti" of "Ivo…Suessonensis comes et Nigelle dominus"[627]m ([1151/52]) as her first husband, YOLANDE de Hainaut, daughter of BAUDOUIN IV “le Bâtisseur” Comte de Hainaut & his wife Alice de Namur (1131-after Apr 1202).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Yolandem, Agnetem, Lauretam" as the daughters of "Alidis comitissa Hanonensis …cum viro Balduino comite", specifying that Yolande married firstly "Ivo senior…comes Suessonis dominusque Nigelle", but was childless by her first husband, and married secondly "Hugonis Sancti Pauli"[628]"Ivo comes Suessionensis et dominus Nigellensis" donated property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxor mea Hyolens...nepos meus Cono heres meus et dominus Petrifontis”, by charter dated to [1175][629]She married secondly (before 28 Apr 1180) Hugues [IV] Comte de Saint Pol

ii)         DREUX de Nesle (-after 1146).  Père Anselme states that Dreux and Raoul [II] consented to the donation of the chapel of Beaulieu made by their brother Ives [II] Comte de Soissons to the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated 1146[630]

iii)        RAOUL [II] de Nesle (-[1153/60]).  His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1161] issued by [his brother] "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis"[631], read together with the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[632].  Châtelain de Bruges. 

-         see below

iv)       RENAUD de Nesle .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  1115/25. 

v)        THIERRY de Nesle (-before 1183).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Thesaurius at Noyon.  Archdeacon at Cambrai.  

b)         [DREUX de Nesle (-after 1098).  Albert of Aix names "…Drogo de Nahella…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[633].  It is not known how Dreux was related to the Nesle family but it is reasonable to suppose that he was a younger son of Ives de Nesle.] 

 

 

RAOUL [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Rainurde --- (-[1153/60])Père Anselme states that Dreux and Raoul [II] consented to the donation of the chapel of Beaulieu made by their brother Ives [II] Comte de Soissons to the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated 1146[634]His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1161] issued by [his brother] "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis"[635], read together with the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[636].  Châtelain de Nesles: “...Rogeri castellani de Peronia, Radulphi castellani de Nigella...” witnessed the charter dated 1146 under which Thierry Bishop of Amiens confirmed the donation made by "Alelmus de Ambianis"[637]Châtelain de Bruges.  "…Radulfi Brugensis castellani…" signed the charter dated 1151 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to the town of Saint-Omer[638]

m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Montaigu, daughter of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife --- (-after 10 Sep 1185).  The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis records that "Evrardum", son of Richildis de Hainaut, married "filiam Lamberti Leodiensis comitis Gertrudem nomine, de qua Balduinum filium genuit"[639]According to the Chronicon Hanoniense, "Evrardum cognomina Radonem" married "matrem Cononis et Iohannis et Radulphi" during the lifetime of his first wife[640].  She married secondly Everard [III] Raoul Châtelain de TournaiGertrudis Brugensis castellan et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated property to Bruges, at the request of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Radulfi”, with the consent of [her daughter-in-law] “Elisabeth...Brugensis castellana”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185[641]

Raoul [II] & his wife had four children: 

1.         CONON de Nesle (-1180 before 20 Apr)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[642].  "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" issued a charter relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis", dated to [1161][643].  Châtelain de Bruges 1161.  "Ivo comes Suessionensis et dominus Nigellensis" donated property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxor mea Hyolens...nepos meus Cono heres meus et dominus Petrifontis”, by charter dated to [1175][644].  "Cono comes Suessionensis et domini Nigellensis" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp for the soul of "patrui mei comitis Yvonis" by charter dated 1176[645]The Chronicon Hanoniense records that "Cono nepos eius Brugensis castellanus" succeeded on the death in 1178 of "Ivo…Suessonensis comes et Nigelle dominus"[646].  Comte de Soissons 1178.  The Chronicon Hanoniense records the death in 1179 of "Cono comes Suessionensis" and the succession of his brothers Jean and Raoul (the latter in Soissons)[647]m (before 1164) AGATHE de Pierrefonds, daughter of DREUX Seigneur de Pierrefonds & his wife Beatrix --- (-after 1189).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Agathe" as wife of "Cono nepos eius [=Ivonis…Suessonensis comitis] Brugensis castellanus", specifying that her husband obtained "castrum Petrepontis" through her[648].  "Cono dominus Petrefontis et Agata uxor mea" confirmed the donation of "vicariam…Corborosa" made to Notre-Dame de Paris by "Sevinus de Rupeforti" by charter dated 1171, witnessed by "Theobaldi de Crespi…"[649]"Agathe comitisse…" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[650]Philippe II King of France confirmed the donation made to Notre-Dame de Longpont by "Beatrix de Petrafontis", confirmed after her death by "Agatha de Petrafontis ipsius filia", by charter dated 1183[651].  "Agatha domina Petrefontis" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Valsery made by "Johannes Turcus" by charter dated 1189[652]

2.         JEAN de Nesle (-14 Jul [1197/1200])The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[653]"…Johannes et Radulfi fratrum meorum" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[654]Châtelain de Bruges 1180.  Seigneur de Nesle, de Falvy et de Hérelle. 

-        CHÂTELAINS de BRUGES

3.         RAOUL de Nesle (-4 Jan 1235)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[655]"…Johannes et Radulfi fratrum meorum" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[656]Comte de Soissons 1180.  Châtelain de Noyon 1184.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1235 of "comes Rodulfus Suessionensis"[657]m firstly (1182 or before) as her fourth husband, ALIX de Dreux, widow firstly of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, secondly of GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne and thirdly of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[658].  "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[659].  "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[660]"Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[661]"Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[662], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.  m secondly (after 1205) YOLANDE, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  According to Simonnet she was the daughter of Geoffroy [IV] Seigneur de Joinville and his wife Helvide de Dampierre[663].  He cites no source to support his information and no other reference has been found to this parentage of the second wife of Raoul Comte de Soissons.  m thirdly ([1211/15]) as her second husband, ADA d'Avesnes, widow of HENRI [III] Comte de Grandpre, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adela de Guise (-after 1249).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that she married "comiti de Grandi-prato"[664].  The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not been identified.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes takes a different view of the parentage of the wife of Raoul Comte de Soissons, recording that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married "monseigneur Raoul conte de Rousci" who died childless, and secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre" by whom she had and a daughter who married “au conte Raoul de Soissons[665]"Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[666].  Dame de Hans.  The Feoda Campanie dated [after 1234] includes “...comitissa Suessionensis domina de Hans…feodum apud Minor(cort) apud Ve(rgig)ni apud Ver[z]lius et apud Lemezicort…[667].  “Ada domina de Hans, quondam comitissa Suessionensis” acknowledged the homage given by her to “Theobaldo regi Navarræ et comiti Campaniæ" by charter dated Dec 1238[668].  Comte Raoul & his first wife had two children: 

a)         GERTRUDE de Nesle (-[26 Sep 1220/Oct 1222).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "uxorem comitis Iohannis Bellimontis…et uxorem Stephani de Sancerra" as the two daughters of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" & her fourth husband, specifying that "Matheus de Montinorenci" had children by the former[669].  "Matheus dominus Montis Moren[tiaci]" donated property "in grangia mea de Herovilla" to Val-Notre-Dame, with the consent of "Gertrudis uxoris mee et Buccardi primogeniti mei", by charter dated Sep 1222[670].  This charter is presumably misdated in light of the date of the second marriage of Mathieu [II] de Montmorency.  The necrology of the abbey of Notre-Dame du Val records the death "VI Kal Oct" of "Geltrudis domina de Montemorenciaco"[671]m firstly (annulled) as his first wife, JEAN de Beaumont, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont & his second wife Adela Dame de Luzarches (-1222).  He succeeded his half-brother as Comte de Beaumont in 1209.  m secondly (1193) as his first wife, MATHIEU [II] "le Grand" Seigneur de Montmorency, son of BOUCHARD [IV] Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Laurette de Hainaut (-24 Nov 1230). 

b)         ELEONORE de Nesle (-[1229/34]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "uxorem comitis Iohannis Bellimontis…et uxorem Stephani de Sancerra" as the daughters of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" & her fourth husband[672], although this appears to refer to the same person.  "Matheus comes Bellimontes" exchanged property with the abbey of Saint-Martin de Pontoise with the consent of "uxoris mee Elienor filie comitis Suessionensis" by charter dated 1199[673]The Chronicon Beccensis Abbatiæ records that "Mathæus comes Belli montis supra Isaram et Alienor uxor eius" founded “ecclesiam sanctæ Marie de Layo” in 1199[674].  "Matheus comes Bellimontis" donated property to Saint-Léonor with the consent of "uxore mea Eliennor et Johanne fratre meo" by charter dated 1 Jan/18 Apr 1199 or 1 Jan/9 Apr 1200[675].  "Stephanus de Sacrocesaris et Elianor uxor mea, Bellimontis quondam comitissa" donated property "in territorio Joiaci" to Val-Notre-Dame by charter dated Oct 1220[676]m firstly (before 1199) as his second wife, MATHIEU [III] Comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont & his first wife Mathilde de Châteaudun (-21 or 24 Nov 1208, bur Priory of Lay).  m secondly (before 1214) as his first wife, ETIENNE [II] de Sancerre Seigneur de Saint-Brisson, son of ETIENNE [I] de Blois Comte de Sancerre & his wife Alix [Mathilde] de Donzy (-1252). 

Comte Raoul & his third wife had [three] children: 

c)         JEAN [II] de Nesle (-[Apr 1270/Feb 1272)"Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[677]He succeeded his father in 1235 as Comte de Soissons

-        see below

d)         RAOUL de Nesle (-after 1272)"Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[678].  "Radulfus filius Radulfi comitis Suessionis" recognised the jurisdiction of Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated Apr 1233[679]Raous de Soissons freres le comte de Soissons...Jean” swore homage to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne by charter dated Nov 1245[680].  "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[681]m --- de Hangest, daughter of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Hangest & his wife ---.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "conte Jehan de Soissons...monseigneur Raoul son frere" married firstly "la roine de Chyppre...ainsnee fille le roi Henri d’Acre" (garbled) and secondly “la fille monseignour Jehan de Hangest...[in one manuscript] qui fus peres monsigneur Aubert” by whom he had “une fille qui fut hoirs de sa terre[682].  Raoul & his wife had one child:  

i)          daughter .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "conte Jehan de Soissons...monseigneur Raoul son frere" married firstly "la roine de Chyppre...ainsnee fille le roi Henri d’Acre" (garbled) and secondly “la fille monseignour Jehan de Hangest” by whom he had “une fille qui fut hoirs de sa terre” who married “monseigneur Bernard de Moruel[683]m BERNARD de Moruel, son of ---. 

e)         [ISABELLE de Nesle .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes [one manuscript] records that "Jehans...Raous...Ysabiaus leur suer fu mariee au visconte de Chastieleraut" [who has not been identified][684]m --- Vicomte de Châtellerault, son of ---.] 

4.         BAUDOUIN de Nesle .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  1177. 

 

 

The relationship, if any, between the following person and the main Nesle family has not been ascertained, not has the basis for his shared interest with Roger de Chaumont (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY) in the property specified in the source quoted below. 

 

1.         HUGUES de Nesle .  The Feoda Campanie dated [1201] includes “Hugo de Nigella tenebat medietatem de Reci de comite, Rogerus de Chaumont aliam medietatem et non sunt in scripto comitis...” in De Firmitate[685]

 

 

JEAN [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons & his third wife Ada d’Avesnes (-[Apr 1270/Feb 1272).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre" by whom she had a daughter who married “au conte Raoul de Soissons”, by whom she had “2 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des fils...Jehans” who succeeded his father as comte de Soissons[686].  His mother’s identity is indicated by the charter dated [May] 1267, quoted below, in which Jean named “mon...cousin mon signor Henri de Hans chevalier”, who is identified as Henri de Grandpré-Hans, grandson of Raoul’s third wife by her first husband.  "Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[687].  It is assumed that the 1 Nov 1213 document is misdated, considering Jean’s birth date.  "Johannes Suessionensis miles, primogenitus comitis Suessionensis, dominus de Turno et Cisinaco" and "Maria uxor ipsius Johannis" noted donations to the Teutonic knights by charter dated May 1234[688].  He succeeded his father in 1235 as Comte de SoissonsComte de Chartres, Seigneur d'Amboise.  “Iehans cuens de Soissons” acted as guarantor to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “mon...cousin mon signor Henri de Hans chevalier” [Henri de Grandpré-Hans] by charter dated [May] 1267[689].  "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[690]

m firstly (before May 1234) MARIE de Chimay, daughter of ROGER de Chimay & his wife Agnes --- (-after 20 Mar 1241).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles[691].  The chronology appears more favourable for the wife of Jean Comte de Soissons to have been the daughter of Roger de Chimay.  "Johannes Suessionensis miles, primogenitus comitis Suessionensis, dominus de Turno et Cisinaco" and "Maria uxor ipsius Johannis" noted donations to the Teutonic knights by charter dated May 1234[692]

m secondly as her second husband, MATHILDE d'Amboise Dame d'Amboise, de Montrichard et de Chaumont, widow of RICHARD [II] Vicomte de Beaumont-sur-Sarthe, daughter of SULPICE [III] Seigneur d'Amboise & his wife Isabelle de Blois Ctss de Chartres (-12 May 1256).  “Sulpice d’Amboise” donated property to Notre-Dame de Fontaines, with the consent of “sa femme Elisabeth et de sa fille Mathilde”, for the souls of “...Elisabeth comtesse d’Angoulême sa sœur”, by charter dated Apr 1213[693].  Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1235 under which [her husband] “Richard de Beaumont seigneur d’Amboise, de Montrichard et de Chaumont” ratified a donation to Tours Saint-Martin made by “Mathilde sa femme”, and confirmed a donation of part of “[les] péages de Montrichard” made by “Guillaume d’Amboise son oncle[694].  “Mathilde d’Amboise veuve de Richard (de Beaumont), femme de Jean comte de Soissons” made an agreement with Tours Saint-Julien by charter dated Apr 1254 (N.S.)[695].  The necrology of Notre-Dame du Parc records the death 11 May 1256 of “Mahaut vicomtesse de Beaumont, dame d’Amboise, de Montrichart, et de Raoul vicomte de Beaumont...[696]

Comte Jean [II] & his first wife had [six] children: 

1.         JEAN [III] de Nesle (-before 8 Oct 1286).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles, li ainsnes des filz...Jehan et li autres Raouls”, adding that Jean succeeded his father as comte de Soissons[697].  Seigneur de Chimay: "Johannes primogenitus J[ohannis] comitis Suessionensis dominus de Cimay et...Margarita de Monteforti eius uxor" confirmed the donation made to Vaux de Cernay under the testament of “bone memorie Almarricus condam comes Montisfortis pater predicte Margarite” by charter dated Apr 1257[698].  “Jean de Soissons sire de Chimai” acknowledged having seen documents sealed by “son père le comte de Soissons et de Nicholon ki fu sire de Barbenchon” recording a sale to Epinlieu abbey by charter dated Sep 1261[699]Comte de Soissonsm (before May 1256) MARGUERITE de Montfort, daughter of AMAURY [VII] de Montfort Comte de Montfort & his wife Beatrix de Viennois ([1225/35]-1284 or after).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avenses records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille"[700].  "Johannes primogenitus J[ohannis] comitis Suessionensis dominus de Cimay et...Margarita de Monteforti eius uxor" confirmed the donation made to Vaux de Cernay under the testament of “bone memorie Almarricus condam comes Montisfortis pater predicte Margarite” by charter dated Apr 1257[701].  Jean [III] & his wife had [five] children: 

a)         MARIE de Nesle (-after [1272/76]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille...Marie...fut maries a monseignour Huon de Scouffans seignour de Maruel"[702]m GUY de Saint-Rémy, son of --- (-1276). 

b)         JEAN [IV] de Nesle (-before May 1302).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans"[703]Comte de Soissonsm (before 1281) MARGUERITE de Rumigny, daughter of HUGUES [II] de Rumigny & his second wife Philippa ---.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans" married “la fille monseignour Huon seignour de Rumigni, si ot de li une fille[704]A parliamentary decision dated 1281 recognised that "de medietate villa d’Aubenton" owed homage to “Ioannes primogenitus comitis Suessionensis...et Margaretæ uxoris sua filia quondam domini de Rumigneyo” who shared the succession of her father “cum sorore sua Ysabella uxore Theobaldi primogeniti ducis Lotharingiæ[705].  Jean [IV] & his wife had two children: 

i)          JEAN [V] de Nesle (Cimay 21 Mar 1281-1304).  A manuscript from Bonne-fontaine abbey records that "Marguerite seur d’Elizabeth Duchesse de Lorraine", who had married “le fils du Comte de Cimay ensemble Comte de Soissons”, gave birth “le jour de Saint Benoist en la ville de Cimay” 1281 to “son premier filz”, adding that she had two sons “le premier…Iehan, le deuxiesme Hugue” specifying that Jean died without heirs[706]Comte de SoissonsPère Anselme states that Jean “damoiseau” confirmed the acquisition of the vicomté de Venizel by the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated May 1297[707]Dom Villevieille records that “Hugues Cte de Soissons, fils de Jn 4e Cte de Soissons et de Marguerite...de Rumigny” succeeded “Jn 5e son frère Cte de Soissons, qui mourut l’an 1304 sans alliance[708]

ii)         HUGUES de Nesle (-after Oct 1305).  The chronology suggests that Hugues de Nesle was the son of Jean [IV] not of Jean [V], particularly bearing in mind the estimated dates of birth of his wife and of the wife of Jean [III].  Dom Villevieille records that “Hugues Cte de Soissons, fils de Jn 4e Cte de Soissons et de Marguerite...de Rumigny” succeeded “Jn 5e son frère Cte de Soissons, qui mourut l’an 1304 sans alliance”, adding that he died “vers l’an 1327” (which must be an error considering his widow’s subsequent marriages)[709]Comte de SoissonsPère Anselme states that Hugues exchanged property with the commune of Soissons by charter dated Oct 1305[710]m (early 1305) as her first husband, JEANNE de Dargies, daughter of RENAUD [II] Seigneur de Dargies et de Catheux & his wife Agnes de Bruyères ([1290]-[Sep 1333/22 Feb 1337]).  The testaments of Renaud Seigneur de Dargies, dated early 1294 and Aug 1295, bequeathed dowry to his daughter Jeanne “...toute le terre de Clari qui me doit venir apres le dechest me dame le contesse d’Aubemalle[711], indicating that the property in question must have constituted Ida’s dower from her first marriage.  Dame de Dargies et de Catheux.  Dom Villevieille records that “Hugues Cte de Soissons, fils de Jn 4e Cte de Soissons et de Marguerite...de Rumigny” married “Jne fille de Gobert [error for Renaud] Sgr d’Argiès et de Catheux en Picardie[712].  She married secondly Jean de Clermont Comte de CharolaisThe Continuatio of the Chronicle of Guillaume de Nangis records the marriage in 1310 of "Ludovicus Roberti Clarimontis filius...frater Johannes" and "comitissam"[713]Dom Villevieille records that “Jne d’Argiès, fille de Renaut d’Argiès, Ctsse de Soissons, veuve de Jn de Clermont chev.” sold “la terre de Puyvert“ to “Thomas de Bruyères son oncle et à Isabeau de Melun sa femme” by charter dated Jul 1319[714].  She married thirdly (after Jul 1319) Hugues de Châtillon Seigneur de CondéJean de Neelle sire d’Offemont et du Sauchoy chevalier et Marguerite dame de Mellou sa femme” acknowledged that “Jeanne dame de Dargies et comtesse de Soissons” had granted them certain properties, by charter dated Sep 1333[715]Madame Ieanne de Dargies Comtesse de Soissons” exchanged property with “monsieur Iean de Nesle seigneur d’Offemont” by charter dated 1333, ratified by “Iean de Boulongne et damoiselle Ieanne de Clermont sa femme fille de ladite feue Comtesse de Soissons” by charter dated 22 Feb 1336 (O.S.?)[716].  Hugues & his wife had one child: 

(a)       MARGUERITE de Nesle (posthumous after Oct 1305-Oct 1350)A manuscript from Bonne-fontaine abbey records that "Marguerite seur d’Elizabeth Duchesse de Lorraine", who had married “le fils du Comte de Cimay ensemble Comte de Soissons”, gave birth “le jour de Saint Benoist en la ville de Cimay” 1281 to “son premier filz”, adding that she had two sons “…le deuxiesme Hugue” who “laissa sa femme enceinte, laquelle enfanta une fille…Marguerite[717]Ctss de Soissonsm (before 23 Jan 1317) JEAN d’Avesnes Seigneur de Beaumont, son of JEAN II Comte de Hainaut [JAN II Count of Holland] & his wife Philippine de Luxembourg ([1288]-11 Mar 1356)

c)         [--- de Soissons .  The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “Eustasses, fils du connestable” married “la fille le comte de Soissons[718].  Identifying the father of the wife of Eustache [IV] de Conflans is difficult because of the uncertain chronology of the Conflans family.  If Eustache’s birth is correctly estimated as shown here, it is likely that she was the daughter of Jean [III] Comte de Soissons.  As noted above, Europäische Stammtafeln names “Marie de Soissons, widow of Guy de Saint-Rémy, d. of Cte Jean III” as the second wife of Eustache [III][719].  No primary source has yet been found which confirms that the wife of Eustache [IV] was the widow of Guy de Saint-Rémy.  m EUSTACHE [IV] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil, son of EUSTACHE [III] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil & his wife [--- de Blâmont] ([1250/60]-).] 

d)         RAOUL de Nesle (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans, si autre 2 frere furent clerc, Li uns des 2 clers ot non Raoul et li autres Auchiers"[720].  Seigneur d’Ostel.  The Chronique Artésienne records “mesires Raous de Soissons” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai[721]

e)         AUCHIER de Nesle .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans, si autre 2 frere furent clerc, Li uns des 2 clers ot non Raoul et li autres Auchiers"[722]

2.         RAOUL de Nesle (-Tunis [1270/71]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles, li ainsnes des filz...Jehan et li autres Raouls”, adding that Raoul died “en Tunnes jones bachelers quant li rois Loys de France y als[723].  Seigneur du Thour et de Cœurves. 

3.         ADELA de Nesle (-before 1252).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Joannes", son of "domino Arnulpho de Audenarde", married "filia Joannis comitis Suessionensis"[724].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...li ainsnes...Aelis fut mariee a monseignour Jehan d’Adenarde, qui ot de li une fille...Marie[725]m as his first wife, JAN van Oudenarde et de Rozoy-sur-Serre, son of ARNOUD [IV] Heer van Oudenaarde & his wife Alix de Rosoy (-[12 Dec 1293/Apr 1294]). 

4.         YOLANDE de Nesle (-[1238/Apr 1242]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...la seconde fille...Yolens fut mariee a monseignour Huon de Rumigni” by whom she died “sans avoir hoir de lui[726]The date of her death is estimated from the charter dated Apr 1242 under which "Johannes comes Suessionensis" promised to transfer to the bishop of Liège all he could recover from "domino N. de Ruminiaco" under the marriage contract between “filio suo et filia mea[727]m as his first wife, HUGUES [II] Seigneur de Rumigny et de Boves, son of NICOLAS [V] Seigneur de Rumigny et de Florennes & his wife Isabelle de Coucy (-2 Aug 1270). 

5.         ELEONORE de Nesle (-after 1280).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...la tierce fille...Alienor fut mariee au viconte de Touars qui ot de li un fil et une fille, li filz...Hughes[728].  "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[729]m RENAUD [I] Vicomte de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffanges, son of GUY [I] Vicomte de Thouars & his wife Alix de Mauléon (-[1264/Feb 1269]). 

6.         [ISABELLE de Nesle .  Her parentage and marriage are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[730], but the primary source on which this affiliation is based has not been identified.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la fille le conte Raoul de Soissons...Yzabiaus" (Raoul who died 1235) married "monseignour Nicolon...sires de Barbenson apres la mort son pere"[731].  From a chronological point of view, this seems improbable.  It is more likely that Isabelle was the daughter of Jean [II] Comte de Soissons.  The primary source which confirms that this parentage is correct has not been identified.  m (before 6 Apr 1244) NICOLAS [II] Seigneur de Barbançon, son of GILLES Seigneur de Barbançon & his wife --- (-[1256]).] 

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de BAUDEMENT

 

 

Three brothers: 

1.         ANDRE de Baudément (-[31 Mar] or [19 Jul] after 1146)Seigneur de Baudément, de la Fère-en-Tardenois, de Nesles, de Longueville et de Quincy.  "Baronum:…Andreas de Baldement" subscribed the charter dated to [1115] under which Baudouin I King of Jerusalem confirmed donations to the church of St Marie, Josaphat[732].  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[733]"Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[734].  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis…", by charter dated 1144[735].  A charter dated 1145 records the donation made by "dominus Andreas de Baldimento et Agnes uxor eius" to Saint-Yved de Braine, with the consent of "Rainaldus Suessonum comes"[736].  He must have died soon afterwards as his wife is named alone in the charter dated 1146 which is quoted below.  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “31 Mar“ of "Andreæ de Baldimento et sororis Agnetis uxoris eius” and their foundation of “abbatiæ de Bassofonte et Moncellis[737].  The necrology of Saint-Yved de Braine records the death "XIV Kal Aug" of "Andreæ de Baldimento domini huius castri et Agnetis uxoris eius" and their donation[738].  It is not certain that this entry relates to the death of André: the date may be that of the donation in question.  m AGNES, daughter of --- (-[31 Mar] after 1144).  [The inheritance of Braine by her descendants suggests that Agnes may have neen heiress of Braine.  If that is correct, one of her predecessors in Braine may have been named in the following charter:  Philippe I King of France received the homage of nepotem nostrum Theobaldum comitem Trecensem”, and of the latter’s nobles of whom “...Guillelmus de Brena...”, by charter dated Apr 1110[739].]  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[740]"Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis…", by charter dated 1144[741].  A charter dated 1145 records the donation made by "dominus Andreas de Baldimento et Agnes uxor eius" to Saint-Yved de Braine, with the consent of "Rainaldus Suessonum comes"[742].  "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai", with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee", made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[743].  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “31 Mar“ of "Andreæ de Baldimento et sororis Agnetis uxoris eius” and their foundation of “abbatiæ de Bassofonte et Moncellis[744].  André & his wife had [nine] children: 

a)         [ANDRE de Baudément (-after 1145).  "Ansericus de Monteregio" donated property to Pontigny, with the support of “--- uxor eiusdem Anserici”, by charter dated 1145, witnessed by “Andreas de Baldament, Bernardus capellanus de Monteregio, Guido de Dompetræ et Guido filius eius...Garnerius de Dompetræ...[745].  The position of the name “Andreas de Baldament...” in the list of witnesses, before the chaplain of Montréal whose name preceded those of the lay witnesses, suggests that he held an ecclesiastical position.  The fact that he was first in the list may indicate a special connection with the donation, possibly because he was a monk at Pontigny.  His name suggests that he was related to the Baudément family of the donor’s mother, although this is not certain.  If that is correct, the name André indicates that he may have been his father’s oldest son, although in that case it is unclear why he would have been destined for the church.  “...Andreas de Baldement...presbiteri...” witnessed the charter dated 1145 under which Bernardus Clarevallis...abbas” gave judgment in disputes between Hugues Bishop of Auxerre and “Willelmum comitem Nivernensem[746].

b)         GUILLAUME (-after 1130).  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[747]

c)         GUY de Baudément (-26 Sep [1143/44]).  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[748]"Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[749]Seigneur de Baudément.  The necrology of Saint-Yved de Braine records the death "VI Kal Oct" of "Widonis militis patris comitissæ de Brana"[750]m ALIX Dame de Braine, daughter of --- (-20 Oct ----).  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, for the love of "Theobaldi fratri præfati Guidonis", with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre", by charter dated 1144[751]The primary source which confirms her family origin has not been identified.   The necrology of Saint-Yved de Braine records the death "XIII Kal Nov" of "Alaidis matris comitissæ de Brana"[752].  Guy & his wife had three children: 

i)          HUGUES .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. 

ii)         GUIDON .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. 

iii)        AGNES (1130-24 Jul 1204, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived).  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes nobilis de Barro super Sequanam" as second wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum", specifying that she was "mater comitisse Petronille"[753].  The foundation charter of the abbey of Mores, undated but dated to 1152, records the donations of "Agnes, Barri comitissa…pro anima viri sui comitis Milonis"[754].  The cartulary of Troyes Saint-Pierre records a charter dated [1148/53] which recalls a donation by "Helisabeth mater Milonis comitis Barensis et ipsius uxor Agnes"[755].  Dame de Braine.  "Agnes Branæ domina" donated property to Saint-Yved de Braine, for the welfare of the souls of "suæ…Milonis mariti sui", by charter dated 1150[756].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes nobilis de Barro super Sequanam" as second wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum", specifying that she was "mater comitisse Petronille"[757].  "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[758]"R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum " by charter dated Jul 1212[759], although the document is incorrectly dated assuming that the death date of Agnes is correct as shown above.  The Chronicon Fiscannensis Cœnobii records the death in 1204 of "Agnes Comitissa Branæ"[760]m firstly (before 1150) MILON [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine, son of GUY Comte de Bar-sur-Seine [Brienne] & his wife Petronille-Elisabeth de Chacenay (-1 Oct 1151).  m secondly (1153) as his second wife, ROBERT de France Seigneur de Dreux, son of LOUIS VI King of France & his wife Adélaïde de Maurienne [Savoie] ([1124/26]-Braine 11 Oct 1188, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). 

d)         THIBAUT .  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, for the love of "Theobaldi fratri præfati Guidonis", by charter dated 1144[761].  Monk at Prémontré. 

e)         WALERAN (-1142, bur Ourscamp).  Monk at Clairvaux.  Abbot of Ourscamp before 1137:  the Historia cœnobiii Mortui-Maris records that "abbatia Ursicampi, quæ a Claravalle exierat" was flourishing in 1137 under "Gualeranno primo abbate filio…Andreæ de Baldement", when recording that he acquired jurisdiction over Mortemer[762].  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre", by charter dated 1144[763]

f)          HELVIDE (-1165).  “Hugo de Monteregali dominus et uxor eius Aluysa” donated “terram...Campum-Leuve...juxta fluvium...Senain” to Fontemoy abbey by charter dated 9 Apr 1119[764]"Domina Montis Regali…Alaisa" ratified donations to Fontenoy after the death of "viri sui Hugonis" by undated charter[765].  "Eluidis Montis regali domina" donated property to Jully-les-Nonnains, with the consent of "Anserici filii sui", by charter dated 1129[766]"Guido de Dampetra…et uxor eius…Elvidis et filii Anserici et Guillelmus" approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[767].  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre", by charter dated 1144[768].  Nun at Jully-les-Nonnains, although it is assumed that Helvide left the convent soon afterwards in light of her marriages.  "Simon dominus Belfortis" confirmed donations to Chapelle-aux-Planches, in the presence of "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis...domini Wilermi domini de Dampetra et Milonis de Planceii", by charter dated 1152, witnessed by “...Wilermus dominus de Dampetra et Heleidis mater eius...[769].  "Hadevilde ctssa de Dampierre, Helye Renaud son avunculus…Beatrix femme d'Helye" witnessed a declaration by Bozon Bishop of Chalon dated 1157 concerning a donation to the priory of Ulmoy by Guérau de Orchara[770]m firstly HUGUES Seigneur de Montréal, son of [MILON Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Adelaide ---] (-after 9 Apr 1119).  m secondly ([1120/25]) GUY [I] Seigneur de Dampierre et de Saint-Dizier Vicomte de Troyes, son of THIBAUT Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube & his wife Elisabeth de Montlhéry (-1151). 

g)         HUMBELINE de Baudément (-1166 or after).  A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[771].  Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[772].  [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay.  This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio[773].  What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[774].  Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time.  However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document.  Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147.  Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister.  As discussed in more detail in the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay.  If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.]  "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[775].  "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[776].  Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband.  Gauthier must have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).  m (repudiated before [1147]) as his [first/second] wife, GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161). 

h)         MATHILDE (-after 1142).  "Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[777].  Nun at Jully-les-Nonnains.  

i)          [ --- (-after 1142).  Nun at Jully-les-Nonnains.  "Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[778].  “Halwidem” is presumably an error for another name as Mathilde’s sister Helvide was at that time still married to Guy [I] Seigneur de Dampierre (see above).] 

2.         ENGENOUL .  "Ingenulfus frater domini Andree" witnessed the charter dated 1133 under which "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins[779].  Canon at Soissons, St Gervais. 

3.         GUILLAUME de Baudément .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas…pro filio suo…Willelmo qui miles dei Templique Salomonis tunc fuerat", by charter dated 1133[780].  Knight Templar. 

 

 

The relationship between the following family sub-group and the main Baudément family is not known: 

1.         LETHERIC de Baudément .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas", by charter dated 1133[781]m ---.  The name of Letheric's wife is not known.  Letheric & his wife had two children: 

a)         LEON .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas", by charter dated 1133[782]

b)         EUSTACHE .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas", by charter dated 1133[783]

 

 

 

E.      SEIGNEURS de FALVY (NESLE)

 

 

RAOUL de Nesle, son of JEAN de Nesle Châtelain de Bruges, Seigneur de Nesle, de Falvy et de Hérelle & his wife Elisabeth van Peteghem (-before Feb 1226)"Elizabet mater domini de Nigella" renounced rights over revenue from Lambersart in favour of Lille Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "filius…meus Radulphus", by charter dated 1204[784].  The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Johans sires de Neele” holding “Neele et les apartenances...” and name among his “home...Raous mis frères...[785]Seigneur de Falvy

m ([1212/14]) as her second husband, ALIX de Roye, widow of JEAN [III] Comte d'Alençon, daughter of BARTHELEMY de Roye & his wife Petronille de Montfort (-26 Jan 1226).  A manuscript genealogy of the Lords of Beaumont records that “Joannem”, son of “Robertum comitem Alencheii”, married “Aaliz filiam domini Bartholomæi de Roye” but died childless[786].  Her second marriage is confirmed by the necrology of Joyenval which records the death of [her son] "domini Joannis de Nigella filii dominæ Aelidis de Roya” and his donation which was confirmed by his mother[787].  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “26 Jan“ 1226 of "dominæ Alidiæ de Roya filiæ domini Bartholomæi fundatoris” and the donation of revenue from “teloneum suum de Roya, detentum nunc a domino de Mouy[788]

Raoul & his wife had one child: 

1.         JEAN [I] de Nesle (-2 Dec 1292)Seigneur de Falvy et de la Hérelle.  "Jehans de Neele cuens de Pontieu de Monsteruel et d’Aubemarle" appointed "la noble dame Jehane…roine de Castele et de Lyon contesse de Pontieu nostre…fame" as his proxy to pursue a claim against the monks of Saint-Sauve by charter dated 17 Oct 1270[789]The necrology of Joyenval records the death “3 Dec“ 1281 of "domini Joannis de Nigella filii dominæ Aelidis de Roya” and his donation which was confirmed by his mother[790]m firstly BEATRIX, daughter of ---.  Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1307 under which Iohannes de Falevi” confirmed donations made by “pater meus dominus Ioannes de Fallevi miles” for the souls of “bonæ memoriæ domini Ioannis de Fallevi patris sui militis et dominæ Beatricis uxoris suæ, eiusque parentum, necnon sui dominæ Ioannæ uxoris suæ et liberorum suorum[791]m secondly ([May 1260/9 Feb 1261]) as her second husband, JEANNE de Dammartin Ctss de Ponthieu, widow of FERNANDO III "el Santo" King of Castile, daughter of SIMON de Dammartin Comte d’Aumâle & his wife Marie Ctss de Ponthieu ([1220]-Abbeville 16 Mar 1279, bur monastery of Valoires).  "Jehans de Neele cuens de Pontieu de Monsteruel et d’Aubemarle" appointed "la noble dame Jehane…roine de Castele et de Lyon contesse de Pontieu nostre…fame" as his proxy to pursue a claim against the monks of Saint-Sauve by charter dated 17 Oct 1270[792]The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death in 1279 of "regina Hispanie, domina Pontivi, mater Alienoræ reginæ Angliæ"[793].  Jean [I] & his first wife had children: 

a)         JEAN [II] de Nesle (-Dec 1300)Seigneur de Falvy et de la Hérelle.  An epitaph at Orcamp records the death in Dec 1300 of “messires Iehans sires de Falevi[794]m as her second husband, MARIE van Oudenaarde, repudiated wife of GODEFROI de Perwez, daughter of JAN Heer van Oudenaarde & his first wife Adela de Soissons (-[after 1276]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...li ainsnes...Aelis fut mariee a monseignour Jehan d’Adenarde, qui ot de li une fille...Marie” who married “monseigneur Godefroi de Peruwes” who died “sans avoir hoir de li” and secondly “monseigneur Jehan de Falleui qui ot de li 2 filles[795].  "Jehans dis sires d’Audennarde sires de Rosoit" confirmed the testament of "me…fille Marie jadis dame de Nineve" (confirmed by "mon segnor Jehan de Neela qu’on dit de Falleni [son mari]") by charter dated 1277[796].  Jean [II] & his wife had four children: 

i)          --- de Nesle (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  Seigneur de Falvy.  The Chronique Artésienne records “mesires de Falvi” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai 11 Jul 1302[797].  The primary source which confirms his name has not been identified. 

ii)         JEAN [III] de Nesle (-after 1310)Seigneur de FalvyIohannes de Falevi”, for the souls of “...dominæ Mariæ...matris meæ et liberorum meorum”, confirmed donations made by “pater meus dominus Ioannes de Fallevi miles” for the souls of “bonæ memoriæ domini Ioannis de Fallevi patris sui militis et dominæ Beatricis uxoris suæ, eiusque parentum, necnon sui dominæ Ioannæ uxoris suæ et liberorum suorum”, by charter dated 1307[798].  “Iohannes de Falevy domicellus” claimed against “Radulfum de Nigella patruum suum” regarding property of “bonorum...defunctorum comitis Pontivi et Ioannis eius primogeniti patris dicti domicelli fratrisque dicti Radulfi” by charter dated 1310[799]m as her second husband, JEANNE de Vendeuil, widow of MATHIEU de Roye Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu, daughter of --- de Vendeuil & his wife --- (-after 1319).  Mathieu de Roye chevalier Seigneur de la Ferté et de Vendeuil et…Jeanne sa femme dame de Vendeuil” settled a dispute with the convent of Saint-Nicolas or Bos in the bishopric of Laon concerning rights over “Choegny” by charter dated Jul 1280 which names “messire Huon de Vendeuil et messire Clerembaut[800].  A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem[801].  Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated May 1324 which named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary[802]Jean [III] & his wife had two children: 

(a)       JEAN [IV] de Nesle (-before 1341).  Seigneur de FalvyJeanne Dame de Fraisnoy femme de...Monsieur Jean de Dargies dit le Borgne Seigneur de Frasnoy” declared founding a chapel “de son heritage à Vendeuil”, in homage to “son...seigneur monseigneur de Fallevy et de Vendeuil”, by charter dated Feb 1324[803].  A charter dated May 1324 named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary[804].  A charter dated 1341 records “Ferricus de Pinconio miles et consiliarius regis” acting “ratione uxoris...pro herede defuncti domini de Falviaco[805]

(b)       BEATRIX de Nesle (-after 1344)A charter dated 1341 records “Ferricus de Pinconio miles et consiliarius regis” acting “ratione uxoris...pro herede defuncti domini de Falviaco[806].  “Beatrix Dame de Fallevy et d’Ailly sur Somme et Jehan de Pinkigny chevaliers Sires de ladite ville d’Ailly et de Hornoy en Vimeu” confirmed the foundation of a hospital “en la ville de Rivieres” by charter dated 7 Apr 1344[807]m (before 29 Sep 1319) FERRY de Picquigny Seigneur d’Ailly-sur-Somme et de Hervey, son of JEAN de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Marguerite de Beaumetz (-before 1344). 

iii)        RAOUL de Nesle (-after 1310).  Iohannes de Falevy domicellus” claimed against “Radulfum de Nigella patruum suum” regarding property of “bonorum...defunctorum comitis Pontivi et Ioannis eius primogeniti patris dicti domicelli fratrisque dicti Radulfi” by charter dated 1310[808]

iv)       MARIE de Nesle (-after 1328)m firstly ALBERT de Longueval, son of ---.  m secondly (1284) JEAN de Looz Seigneur d’Agimont, son of JEAN [I] Comte de Looz et de Chiny & his second wife Isabelle de Condé (-Brescia 1311). 

b)         JEANNE de Nesle (-10 Oct 1280, bur Dunes)An epitaph at Dunes records the death “IV Kal Nov” 1280 of “Iohanna filia comitis de Pontiu uxor Willelmi de Betunia militis domini de Lokerna et de ---[809]m GUILLAUME [III] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne, son of GUILLAUME [II] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne & his wife Beatrix de Herbuterne. 

 

 

 



[1] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 321.       

[2] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré d'Argenteuil, p. 348.       

[3] Annales Vedastini 892, MGH SS II, p. 527.  . 

[4] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[5] ES II 188B. 

[6] ES III 729 B. 

[7] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 893, MGH SS XXIII, p. 748. 

[8] Flodoardi Annales 9927, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[9] Flodoard, 931, MGH SS III, p. 379. 

[10] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377.  

[11] Flodoard, 941, MGH SS III, p. 388. 

[12] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[13] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[14] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[15] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[16] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[17] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[18] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[19] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[20] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[21] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[22] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[23] Mabillon (1739) Annales Ordinis S. Benedicti, Tome VI, XXVI, p. 654. 

[24] Flodoardi Annales 927, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[25] Flodoardi Annales 930, MGH SS III, p. 379. 

[26] Flodoardi Annales 949-950, MGH SS III, pp. 399-400. 

[27] Flodoardi Annales 958, MGH SS III, p. 404. 

[28] ES III 653. 

[29] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, II, p. 128. 

[30] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, III, p. 129. 

[31] Tardif ‘Le procès d’Enguerran de Coucy’ (1918), p. 9, footnote 1, quoting Prou, M. (1908) Recueil des actes de Philippe I (1059-1108) (Paris), XXVII, LXI, LXXXII, LXXXIX, XC, XCIV, pp. 80, 162, 214, 232, 236 and 244 [not yet consulted]. 

[32] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 21. 

[33] Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi, Liber I, XXVI, col. 1397. 

[34] Domesday Translation, Yorkshire, XXXVIII, folio 329v, p. 849. 

[35] Annuaire-Bulletin de la Société de l’Histoire de France, Tome XXIII (1886), Part 2, pp. 179-80. 

[36] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[38] Mathieu 'La succession au comté de Roucy’ (2000), p. 78 footnote 30, quoting Plessis, T. du. (1728) Histoire de la ville et des seigneurs de Coucy (Paris), p. 128. 

[39] Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi, Liber I, XXVI, col. 1397. 

[40] Pontoise Saint-Martin, XXV, p. 22. 

[41] Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi, Liber I, XXVI, col. 1397. 

[42] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436. 

[43] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[44] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[45] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXII, p. 206. 

[46] Molinier (1887) De Glorioso Rege Ludovico, Ludovici filio, X, p. 158. 

[47] Tardif ‘Enguerran de Coucy’, p. 33, footnote 3. 

[48] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[49] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[50] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 346. 

[51] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[52] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 348. 

[53] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[54] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[55] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[56] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 346. 

[57] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[58] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 348. 

[59] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[60] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[61] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909. 

[62] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[63] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[64] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[65] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[66] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[67] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[68] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, LXXII, p. 88. 

[69] Paris Notre-Dame I, XVII, p. 299. 

[70] Notre-Dame de la Trappe Tome II, p. 2. 

[71] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[72] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[73] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[74] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[75] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[76] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[77] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 346. 

[78] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[79] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 438. 

[80] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. dclxxxv. 

[81] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[82] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[83] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[84] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[85] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[86] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[87] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[88] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 348. 

[89] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[90] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 350. 

[91] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[92] Arbois de Jubainville, Tome III, Preuves, C, p. 431. 

[93] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[94] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[95] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[96] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[97] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 354. 

[98] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[99] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[100] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 359. 

[101] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[102] La Thaumassière (1679), p. 232. 

[103] Annales Londonienses, p. 43. 

[104] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[105] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[106] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[107] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 384. 

[108] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 220. 

[109] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[110] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[111] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 359. 

[112] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye des Clairets, p. 281.       

[113] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945. 

[114] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[115] Cluny, Tome VI, 5112, p. 561. 

[116] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 373. 

[117] Matthew Paris, Vol. V 1250, p. 158. 

[118] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 947. 

[119] Ponthieu, CLVIII, p. 215. 

[120] Kronijk van Arent toe Bocop, p. 184. 

[121] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 373. 

[122] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 382. 

[123] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, pp. 384-5. 

[124] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 376. 

[125] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[126] Cluny, Tome VI, 5112, p. 561. 

[127] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 379. 

[128] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 376. 

[129] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 379. 

[130] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 382. 

[131] Anciennes Chroniques de Flandre, RHGF XXII, p. 343. 

[132] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 381. 

[133] ES VII 80. 

[134] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[135] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1239, p. 530. 

[136] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945. 

[137] Skene (1877) Vol. I, Liber VII, CXI, p. 74. 

[138] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1251, p. 265. 

[139] Rymer (1745), Tome I, Pars II, p. 27. 

[140] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXV, p. 109. 

[141] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXXIX, p. 127. 

[142] Chronicle of Melrose, 1239, p. 64. 

[143] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[144] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 293. 

[145] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 303.       

[146] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[147] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 395. 

[148] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[149] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire VI, p. 909.   

[150] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 239, p. 72. 

[151] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[152] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[153] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[154] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[155] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 166. 

[156] Matthias Nuewenburgensis, p. 274. 

[157] Rymer (1740), Tome III, Pars III, p. 84. 

[158] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, col. 599. 

[159] Chronicon Angliæ 1328-1388 (1874), p. 56.  

[160] Rymer (1740), Tome III, Pars III, p. 84. 

[161] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, col. 599. 

[162] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, 12, col. 603. 

[163] Duchesne (1631), Bar, Preuves, p. 56. 

[164] Calmet (1728), Tome II, Preuves, col. dclxvi. 

[165] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, 12, col. 603. 

[166] CP X 232. 

[167] Rymer (1740), Tome III, Pars IV, p. 44. 

[168] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, 12, col. 602. 

[169] Marolles (1873), col. 3. 

[170] Père Anselme, Tome V, p. 132. 

[171] Le Carpentier (1664), Vol. II (Part III), p. 343. 

[172] Annales Lobienses 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[173] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[174] Tardif ‘Enguerran de Coucy’, p. 14. 

[175] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXII, p. 206. 

[176] Genealogiæ Fuscniacenses 3, MGH SS XIII, p. 252. 

[177] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, II, p. 128. 

[178] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, IV, p. 130. 

[179] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[180] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[181] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[182] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[183] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[184] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Coucy, p. 289. 

[185] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 16

[186] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 441-2. 

[187] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 442. 

[188] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255, and Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 453. 

[189] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255. 

[190] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 454. 

[191] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 450. 

[192] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255, and Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 453. 

[193] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[194] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[195] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 193. 

[196] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[197] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[198] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[199] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[200] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[201] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[202] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[203] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 46. 

[204] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[205] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[206] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 372. 

[207] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 372. 

[208] ES VII 80, which gives no details. 

[209] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[210] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[211] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 561. 

[212] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[213] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[214] Gallia Christiana, Tome III, col. 95. 

[215] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[216] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[217] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[218] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[219] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[220] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[221] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[222] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[223] Reiffenberg (1844), Tome I, Autre cartulaire de Namur, LXXI, p. 225. 

[224] Reiffenberg (1844), Tome I, Autre cartulaire de Namur, CXV, p. 299. 

[225] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[226] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[227] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[228] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[229] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[230] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 57. 

[231] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes II, 1606, p. 13. 

[232] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LII, p. 87. 

[233] Delisle (1867), 26, p. 17. 

[234] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[235] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes II, 1606, p. 13. 

[236] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LII, p. 87. 

[237] Delisle (1867), 61, p. 25. 

[238] Delisle (1867), 123, p. 38. 

[239] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[240] Delisle (1867), 123, p. 38. 

[241] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, CCXVII, p. 357. 

[242] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[243] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[244] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, Part 2, DXX, p. 481. 

[245] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[246] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[247] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 561. 

[248] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[249] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[250] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[251] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[252] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[253] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[254] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[255] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[256] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[257] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[258] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[259] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[260] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[261] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[262] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[263] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIV, p. 132. 

[264] Foigny (1879), DXVII, p. 94. 

[265] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 553. 

[266] Cysoing, CXX, p. 151. 

[267] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[268] Delisle (1867), 141, p. 42. 

[269] Analectes Belgique, Tome VII (1870), p. 367. 

[270] Analectes Belgique, Tome VII (1870), p. 369. 

[271] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 561. 

[272] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[273] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[274] Flodoard 923, MGH SS III, p. 372. 

[275] Flodoard 924, 925, MGH SS III, pp. 373-5. 

[276] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[277] Flodoard 926, MGH SS III, p. 376. 

[278] Flodoard 944, MGH SS III, p. 392. 

[279] Flodoard 945, MGH SS III, p. 391. 

[280] Flodoard 947, MGH SS III, p. 394. 

[281] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, p. 155. 

[282] Cluny, Tome I, 730, p. 685. 

[283] Flodoard 948, MGH SS III, p. 397. 

[284] Flodoard 949, MGH SS III, p. 399. 

[285] Flodoardi Annales 949, MGH SS III, p. 398. 

[286] Flodoardi Annales 950, MGH SS III, p. 400. 

[287] Flodoardi Annales 953, MGH SS III, p. 402. 

[288] Flodoardi Annales 954, MGH SS III, p. 402. 

[289] McKitterick (1983), p. 321. 

[290] Flodoardi Annales 955, MGH SS III, p. 403. 

[291] Flodoardi Annales 966, MGH SS III, p. 407. 

[292] Varin (1844) Archives administratives de Reims, Tome I, Part 2, p. 169. 

[293] Varin (1844) Archives administratives de Reims, Tome I, Part 2, p. 80. 

[294] Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis, Spicilegium II, p. 470. 

[295] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407. 

[296] RHGF, Tome IX, p. 105. 

[297] Bouchard (1987), p. 169. 

[298] Bouchard (1987), p. 269, citing Siegfried of Gorze, letter to Poppo of Stablo, in Gisebrecht, W. von (ed.) (1885) Geschichte der deutschen Kaizerseit, 5th ed., II (Leipzig), pp. 714-8. 

[299] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407. 

[300] Cluny, Tome III, 2742, p. 765, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 270. 

[301] Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368. 

[302] Cluny, Tome II, 1198, p. 280. 

[303] Mâcon Saint-Vincent, 7, p. 6. 

[304] Rodulfus Glaber, III.6, p. 105. 

[305] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 163. 

[306] When his wife's second husband first appears as Comte de Mâcon, Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368, and 1580, p. 624, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 264. 

[307] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. 

[308] Hugonis Floriacensis, Genealogia Comitum Flandriæ, MGH SS IX, p. 369. 

[309] Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis, Spicilegium, Tome II, p. 473. 

[310] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, p. 155. 

[311] Rodulfus Glaber III.6, p. 105. 

[312] Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de Dijon 980, pp. 128-29.   

[313] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 980, MGH SS XXIII, p. 772. 

[314] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. 

[315] Necrology, quoted in Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de Dijon 980, p. 128 footnote 3.   

[316] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. 

[317] Halphen & Lot (1908), LXIII, p. 149. 

[318] Varin (1839) Archives administratives de Reims, Tome I, Part 1, p. 85 footnote continued from earlier pages, citing “Bibl. Roy. mss. Reims, cart. VI”. 

[319] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[320] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 862. 

[321] Mathieu 'La succession au comté de Roucy' (2000), p. 79. 

[322] Genealogiæ Fuscniacenses 3, MGH SS XIII, p. 252. 

[323] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1023, MGH SS XXIII, p. 782. 

[324] Moranvillé ‘Origine de la maison de Roucy’ (1922), pp. 40-3. 

[325] RHGF, Tome X, LII, p. 400. 

[326] Chronici Centulensis, Liber IV, Caput III, Spicilegium (1723), Tome II, p. 332. 

[327] Annales Mosomagenses, MGH SS III, p. 161. 

[328] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 80. 

[329] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783. 

[330] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 3 and 11, MGH SS XIII, pp. 252 and 254. 

[331] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783. 

[332] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10 and 11, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[333] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 18. 

[334] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 20 & 21. 

[335] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783. 

[336] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[337] Marlot (1846), Vol. III, XCVIII, p. 759. 

[338] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 90. 

[339] Genealogiæ Fuscniacenses 3, MGH SS XIII, p. 252. 

[340] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 3 and 9, MGH SS XIII, pp. 252 and 253. 

[341] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[342] Murray (2000), p. 173, citing Trésor des chartes de Rethel, Vol. 1, no.1. 

[343] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794. 

[344] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[345] Pontoise Saint-Martin, XIV, p. 12. 

[346] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’ (1861), Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451. 

[347] Lecoy de la Marche (1867), Suger Vita Ludovici Grossi Regis III, p. 19. 

[348] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1068, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[349] Anna Comnena (1969), Book 1, p. 61.   

[350] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’, Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451. 

[351] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[352] Lecoy de la Marche (1867), Suger Vita Ludovici Grossi Regis V, p. 19. 

[353] Annales Mosomagenses, MGH SS III, p. 162. 

[354] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[355] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[356] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[357] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[358] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[359] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[360] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[361] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[362] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[363] Chronicon Lætiense 3, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[364] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[365] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[366] William of Tyre XIV.XV, p. 627. 

[367] William of Tyre XIV.XV, p. 628, which says he was "fratri comitis Namura". 

[368] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[369] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[370] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[371] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XLIII, col. 45. 

[372] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[373] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[374] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 26. 

[375] ES III 677. 

[376] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[377] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XLIII, col. 45. 

[378] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[379] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[380] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[381] ES III 677. 

[382] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 24. 

[383] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 24. 

[384] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 25. 

[385] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[386] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XLIII, col. 45. 

[387] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[388] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[389] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[390] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[391] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[392] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[393] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[394] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[395] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[396] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXIX, p. 184. 

[397] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, p. 175 foonote 1, citing Archives de l’Etat à Arlon, fonds Saint-Hubert, 45, H. 1. 

[398] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[399] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[400] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[401] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[402] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[403] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[404] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[405] ES III 677. 

[406] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[407] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[408] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXI, p. 174. 

[409] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXI, p. 174. 

[410] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[411] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[412] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 35. 

[413] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[414] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 33. 

[415] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXI, p. 174. 

[416] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[417] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[418] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[419] Foigny (1879), CCCLII, p. 62. 

[420] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[421] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[422] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[423] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 384. 

[424] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 220. 

[425] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[426] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[427] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[428] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[429] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[430] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823.  

[431] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[432] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[433] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[434] ES III 677. 

[435] Moret de la Fayole (1675), pp. 137-50. 

[436] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[437] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[438] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[439] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[440] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[441] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[442] Chronicon Lætiense 3, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[443] Chronicon Lætiense 5, MGH SS XIV, p. 495. 

[444] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[445] Chronicon Lætiense 5, MGH SS XIV, p. 495. 

[446] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[447] Chronicon Lætiense 5, MGH SS XIV, p. 495. 

[448] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[449] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[450] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[451] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[452] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[453] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[454] Foigny (1879), CCCLII, p. 62. 

[455] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159. 

[456] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[457] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[458] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[459] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[460] Foigny (1879), CCCLII, p. 62. 

[461] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[462] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[463] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[464] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 384. 

[465] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 220. 

[466] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[467] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[468] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[469] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[470] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CLXXXVIII, p. 242. 

[471] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[472] Duchesne (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 260. 

[473] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 947. 

[474] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 50. 

[475] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 50. 

[476] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[477] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[478] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[479] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[480] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 282. 

[481] Ménage (1683), Tome I, p. 210. 

[482] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[483] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[484] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 309. 

[485] Boutaric (1867), Vol. II, 6719, p. 432. 

[486] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33 

[487] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 651 (no citation reference). 

[488] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33. 

[489] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 292. 

[490] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 65. 

[491] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33. 

[492] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[493] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 145. 

[494] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 149. 

[495] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 282. 

[496] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 39. 

[497] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 39. 

[498] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[499] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 42. 

[500] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 406, pp. 280, 327. 

[501] Ménage (1683), Tome I, p. 210. 

[502] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[503] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 366, p. 230. 

[504] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33. 

[505] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 65. 

[506] ES III 680. 

[507] For example: Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 590, and Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 68. 

[508] Vallet de Viriville (1859), Fragments de la Geste des Nobles François, Chap. 106, p. 129. 

[509] Moriondus (1790), Pars II, Historiam Aquensem,Monferratensem ac Pedemontanam, col. 179. 

[510] State Archives, volume 25, page 17, fascicule 19

[511] Dubois ‘Titres de la maison d’Albret’, p. 157. 

[512] Dubois ‘Titres de la maison d’Albret’, p. 160. 

[513] Père Anselme, Tome I, p. 323. 

[514] Tréport Saint-Michel, 1, p. 1. 

[515] Tréport Saint-Michel, 1, p. 1. 

[516] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 8. 

[517] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[518] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[519] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[520] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[521] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209. 

[522] Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis, MGH SS XVI, p. 489. 

[523] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1143, MGH SS XXIII, p. 837. 

[524] Sigeberti Continuatio Praemonstratensis 1143, MGH SS VI, p. 452. 

[525] Sigeberti Continuatio Praemonstratensis 1146, MGH SS VI, p. 453. 

[526] Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis, MGH SS XVI, p. 489. 

[527] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1147, MGH SS XXIII, p. 839. 

[528] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[529] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209. 

[530] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 129. 

[531] Brogne Necrology, p. 338. 

[532] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[533] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[534] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130.  

[535] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXIX, p. 184. 

[536] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, p. 175 foonote 1, citing Archives de l’Etat à Arlon, fonds Saint-Hubert, 45, H. 1. 

[537] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209. 

[538] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 129. 

[539] Saint-Amand, VIII, p. 158. 

[540] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 131. 

[541] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103. 

[542] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[543] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 1ère Partie, p. 21. 

[544] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[545] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[546] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 144, p. 151. 

[547] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[548] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[549] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878. 

[550] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[551] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103. 

[552] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[553] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[554] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159. 

[555] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[556] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[557] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[558] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[559] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[560] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[561] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[562] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[563] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 579. 

[564] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[565] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[566] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[567] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Southwark, St Mary Overey Priory, III, p. 171. 

[568] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[569] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878. 

[570] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1227, MGH SS XXIII, p. 919. 

[571] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1227, MGH SS XXIII, p. 920. 

[572] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1229, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 923-4. 

[573] Brogne Necrology, p. 313. 

[574] Signy, LII, p. 18. 

[575] Signy, LII, p. 18. 

[576] Signy, LII, p. 18. 

[577] Angers Saint-Aubin, Tome I, 2, p. 4. 

[578] Dormay (1664), Vol. II, Livre V, Chap. I, p. 3. 

[579] RHGF, Tome IX, XXIV, p. 634. 

[580] RHGF, Tome IX, XLI, p. 654. 

[581] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta, col. 359. 

[582] Gerbert, 40, p. 38. 

[583] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720. 

[584] ES III 729 A. 

[585] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720. 

[586] ES III 729 A. 

[587] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720. 

[588] ES III 729 A. 

[589] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436. 

[590] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 11 and 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[591] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Pontificum abbreviata per canonicum Cameracensem, 8, MGH SS VII, p. 505. 

[592] Marmoutier-Dunois XXII, p. 22. 

[593] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436. 

[594] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277. 

[595] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250. 

[596] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277. 

[597] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, II, p. 425. 

[598] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, LXIX, p. 457. 

[599] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 11 and 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[600] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794. 

[601] Liber Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs XII, p. 28. 

[602] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277. 

[603] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[604] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[605] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[606] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, I, p. 1. 

[607] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[608] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, I, p. 1. 

[609] ES III 15. 

[610] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[611] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Manasses et Walcheri, 1, 2, 3, MGH SS VII, p. 500.  

[612] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Pontificum abbreviata per canonicum Cameracensem, 8, MGH SS VII, p. 505. 

[613] Chronicon S. Andreæ Castri Cameracesii, Liber II, 19, MGH SS VII, p. 544. 

[614] Sigeberti Continuatio auctarium Aquicinense 1095, MGH SS VI, p. 394. 

[615] Sigeberti Continuatio auctarium Aquicinense 1105, MGH SS VI, p. 395. 

[616] Gesta Galcheri Episcopi Cameracensis, 28, MGH SS XIV, p. 204. 

[617] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, col. 355. 

[618] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[619] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[620] Hémeré, C. (1643) Augusta Viromanduorum (Paris), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37. 

[621] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[622] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[623] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[624] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[625] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[626] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXI, p. 169. 

[627] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 527. 

[628] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[629] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXI, p. 169. 

[630] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 500. 

[631] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[632] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[633] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXII, p. 315. 

[634] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 500. 

[635] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[636] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[637] Amiens, I, 26, p. 35. 

[638] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives V, p. 378. 

[639] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 34, MGH SS XIV, p. 287. 

[640] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 506. 

[641] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CXIV, p. 717. 

[642] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[643] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[644] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXI, p. 169. 

[645] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXC, p. 173. 

[646] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 527.  

[647] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 528. 

[648] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 527. 

[649] Tardif (1866), 635, p. 315. 

[650] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXII, p. 169. 

[651] Tardif (1866), 689, p. 337, full text available at <http://vieux-marcoussis.pagesperso-orange.fr/Chroniques/auguste1.htm> [22 Mar 2011]. 

[652] Beauvillé (1881), Part IV, XVIII, p. 24. 

[653] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[654] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXII, p. 169. 

[655] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[656] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXII, p. 169. 

[657] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1235, MGH SS XXIII, p. 940. 

[658] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6. 

[659] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11. 

[660] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez

[661] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170. 

[662] Tremblay-en-France 5. 

[663] Simonnet, J. (1876) Essai sur l’histoire et de la généalogie des Sires de Joinville (Langres), p. 76. 

[664] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, pp. 560 and 562. 

[665] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[666] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[667] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 7ème Partie, p. 188. 

[668] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 407, p. 133. 

[669] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[670] Val-Notre-Dame, I, p. 7. 

[671] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye du Val, p. 631.       

[672] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[673] Pontoise Saint-Martin CCXIX, p. 169. 

[674] Chronicon Beccensis Abbatiæ (1648), p. 10. 

[675] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome III, 565, p. 166. 

[676] Val-Notre-Dame, IV, p. 9. 

[677] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[678] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[679] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 449. 

[680] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 236. 

[681] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 115. 

[682] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[683] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[684] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[685] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 3ème Partie, p. 99. 

[686] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[687] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[688] Beauvoir, 43, p. 206. 

[689] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 256. 

[690] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 115. 

[691] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[692] Beauvoir, 43, p. 206. 

[693] Mabille ‘Collection Dom Housseau’ (1864), Tome XIV, 2373, p. 271, citing ‘Cartul. de l’abbaye de Fontaines, fol. 30 v’. 

[694] Mabille ‘Collection Dom Housseau’ (1864), Tome XIV, 2794, p. 334, citing ‘St. Martin - Pancarte blanche, fo. 119 v’. 

[695] Angot ‘Vicomtes du Maine, Cartulaire’ (1914), CCCIX, p. 423. 

[696] Angot ‘Vicomtes du Maine, Cartulaire’ (1914), CCCXI, p. 423. 

[697] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[698] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, Part 2, DLXXII, p. 531. 

[699] Devillers (1867), Tome III, CXII, p. 53. 

[700] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[701] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, Part 2, DLXXII, p. 531. 

[702] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[703] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[704] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[705] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 206. 

[706] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 207. 

[707] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 504, citing Regnault Histoire de Soissons, preuves, p. 22 [not yet consulted]. 

[708] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164 (no primary source cited). 

[709] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164 (no primary source cited). 

[710] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 505. 

[711] Carolus-Barré ‘Renaut seigneur de Dargies’, Vol. II (1969), pp. 704 and 717, quoting Archives dép. Oise, H 4276 (fonds de l’abbaye cistercienne de Beaupré). 

[712] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164 (no primary source cited). 

[713] RHGF, Tome XX, Continuatio Chronici Guillelmi de Nangiaco, p. 601. 

[714] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164. 

[715] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 460. 

[716] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 186. 

[717] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 207. 

[718] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Appendice, 2, p. 463. 

[719] ES XIII 93. 

[720] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[721] Chronique Artésienne (1899), p. 49. 

[722] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[723] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[724] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 561. 

[725] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[726] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[727] Liège Saint-Lambert, Tome I, CCCXLIII, p. 422. 

[728] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[729] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 115. 

[730] ES XIII 27. 

[731] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[732] Röhricht (1893) 80, p. 18. 

[733] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[734] Jully-les-Nonains, p. 13. 

[735] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[736] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[737] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 289.       

[738] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extraits du Martyrologe de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[739] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 2. 

[740] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[741] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[742] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[743] Basse-Fontaine, 95, p. 122. 

[744] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 289.       

[745] Yonne, Tome I, CCLI, p. 402. 

[746] Plancher (1739), Tome I, Preuves, LXVIII, p.xlv. 

[747] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[748] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[749] Jully-les-Nonnains, p. 13. 

[750] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extraits du Martyrologe de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[751] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[752] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extraits du Martyrologe de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[753] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[754] Mores, p. 45. 

[755] Troyes Saint-Pierre, 14, p. 18. 

[756] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[757] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[758] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6. 

[759] Notre-Dame de la Trappe II, p. 2. 

[760] Ex Chronico Fiscannensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 350. 

[761] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[762] Ex historia cœnobii Mortui-Maris, RHGF, Tome XIV, p. 510. 

[763] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[764] Chastellux (1869), Pièces justificatives, IV, p. 248. 

[765] Petit, E. (1888) Histoire des ducs de Bourgogne de la race Capétienne (Paris), Vol. II, p. 481. 

[766] Petit, Vol. II, p. 480. 

[767] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[768] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[769] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 11, p. 11. 

[770] Ulmoy, p. 121. 

[771] Troyes Saint-Loup, 7, p. 22. 

[772] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[773] Yonne II, CCXXXIV, p. 251. 

[774] Molesme II, 259, p. 241. 

[775] Basse-Fontaine 5, p. 6. 

[776] Basse-Fontaine 13, p. 18. 

[777] Jully-les-Nonnains, p. 13. 

[778] Jully-les-Nonnains, p. 13. 

[779] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[780] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[781] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[782] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[783] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[784] Lille Saint-Pierre, Tome I, LXX, p. 74. 

[785] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 223, p. 656. 

[786] Dugdale Monasticon III, Shrewsbury Abbey, XI, Genealogia Dominorum Bellismontium, p. 522.   

[787] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 307.       

[788] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 285.        

[789] Montreuil-sur-Mer, IV, p. 4. 

[790] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 307.       

[791] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[792] Montreuil-sur-Mer, IV, p. 4. 

[793] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 221. 

[794] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[795] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[796] Ninove, CCXLVIII, p. 940. 

[797] Chronique Artésienne (1899), p. 50. 

[798] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[799] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[800] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[801] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[802] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[803] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[804] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[805] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[806] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[807] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[808] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[809] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 168.