NORTHERN FRANCE

laon, coucy, roucy, soissons

 

v4.13 Updated 30 April 2024

 

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

 

 

Chapter 1.                LAON. 2

A.         COMTES de LAON.. 2

B.         VIDAMES de LAON.. 4

Chapter 2.                COUCY. 6

A.         SEIGNEURS de COUCY.. 6

B.         VICOMTES de COUCY.. 8

C.        SEIGNEURS de COUCY.. 9

D.        SEIGNEURS de COUCY (GUINES) 19

E.         SEIGNEURS de CRECY-sur-SERRE.. 24

F.         SEIGNEURS de MARLE.. 25

G.        VICOMTES de MEAUX.. 26

H.        SEIGNEURS de PINON.. 29

I.      SEIGNEURS de VERVINS (COUCY) 33

Chapter 3.                ROUCY. 38

A.         COMTES de ROUCY (ORIGINS) 38

B.         COMTES de ROUCY (MONTDIDIER) 46

C.        COMTES de ROUCY (PIERREPONT) 58

D.        SEIGNEURS de PIERREPONT. 68

Chapter 4.                SOISSONS. 75

A.         COMTES de SOISSONS.. 75

B.         COMTES de SOISSONS (NORMANDY) 78

C.        COMTES de SOISSONS (NESLE) 81

D.        COMTES de SOISSONS (BOURBON, SAVOY) 95

D.        SEIGNEURS de BAUDEMENT. 97

E.         SEIGNEURS de FALVY (NESLE) 104

 

 

 

This document groups noble families located to the north-west of the county of Champagne, situated in the south-eastern part of the area categorised as Northern France in Medieval Lands.  The area corresponds approximately to the central part of the present-day French département of Aisne. 

 

 

 

Chapter 1.    LAON

 

 

Laon is located north-west of Reims in the present-day French département of Aisne.  It was recorded briefly as a county in the late 9th and early 10th centuries.  In 931, the town and county were captured by Héribert [II] Comte de Vermandois, and for several decades became the focus of disputes between the kings of France, the counts of Vermandois, and the bishops of Laon. 

 

 

 

A.      COMTES de LAON

 

 

1.         ADELRAMN [II] [Aleran], son of [ADELRAMN [I] & his wife ---] (-14 Jul, after 885).  The primary source which names Adelramn [II] as the son of Adelramn [I] has not so far been identified.  Comte de Laon.  11 Oct 864.  879.  The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "II Id Jul" of "Alerannus comes"[1].  The necrology of Argenteuil Priory records the death "II Id Jul" of "Alerannus comes"[2]

a)         GAUTHIER .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.  Comte de Laonsame person as…?  WALCHER, son of --- (-after 892)Comte de Laon.  The Annales Vedastini record that "Balduinus" captured Artois, that King Eudes besieged the castle of Laon ("castrum Laudunensium") previously obtained "per tyrannidem" by "Walcherus, eius [Balduinus] consobrinus", and that peace was restored between Baudouin and Walcher through "Evrebertum"[3]

b)         other children - see CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY

 

 

1.         ROGER [I] (-926)Comte de Laon.  Flodoard records the death of "Rodulfus comes, filius Heilwidis" and "non multo post etiam Rotgarius, vitricus eius, comes Laudunensis pagi" in 926[4]m HELVIDE, daughter of ---.  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[5], she was Heilwig di Friulia, widow of Hucbald Comte [d'Ostrevent]. daughter of Eberhard Duke of the March of Friulia [Unruochingi] & his wife Gisela [Carolingian], although another table in Europäische Stammtafeln only names the wife of Comte Roger as "Helvide" but does not give her origin[6].  Her first marriage is proved by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "Hucbaldus de Hainacq" as "huius [=abbas Rodulfus] sororius"[7].  Comte Roger [I] & his wife had [two or more] children: 

a)         ROGER [II] (-942).  Flodoard records in 927 that Raoul King of France disputed "Laudunensi comitatu" with "Heribertum comitem" and that the king granted it to "cuidam filiorum Rotgarii…Rotgario"[8].  Flodoard records that Hugues "le Grand" captured "Duvagium" [Douai] from the Lotharingians and granted it to "Rotgario filio Rotgarii" in 931[9]Comte de Laon 926, expelled 931.  Flodoard records that "Arnulpho, filio Balduini" captured "Moritania, munitio filiorum Rotgarii" [Mortagne] in 931[10]Comte de Douai 931.  Flodoard records that "Rotgarius comes" was expelled by "rege Lodovico" and that "Duagium castellum" was returned to "Arnoldo" in 941 but that "Arnoldum cum Landrico fratre ipsius" were later expelled from the castle by the king[11]Comte de Bassigny 941.  m ---.  The primary source which confirms the identity of Roger’s wife has not been identified.  Comte Roger [II] & his wife had one child: 

i)          HUGUES (-25 Aug 961, bur Reims Saint-Rémi)Comte de Bassigny.  The necrology of Reims Saint-Rémi records the death "VIII Kal Sep" of "Hugo filius Rogeri comitis"[12]

-        COMTES de BASSIGNY

b)         son .  The existence of more than one son of Roger [I] is suggested by Flodoard who records that "Arnulpho, filio Balduini" captured "Moritania, munitio filiorum Rotgarii" [Mortagne] in 931[13]

 

 

 

B.      VIDAMES de LAON

 

 

Duchesne records that Louis VI King of France granted “les Vidamés et Prevosté de Laonnois” to Barthélemy Bishop of Laon on condition that the titles and territories passed to his successor bishops, adding that after the king died Bishop Barthélemy conferred the vidamé de Laon on “Gérard de Clacy”, buried “au cimetière de S. Vincent de Laon”, who by his wife Adeline had one daughter “Sarrazine de Clacy” who brought “la terre de Clacy avec le Vidamé de Laon” to her husband “Hector de ---[14].  The accuracy of this narrative is uncertain, considering the mentions of other Vidame de Laon during between 1115 and 1129 in the primary sources quoted below. 

 

 

1.         ELBERT (-after 1121).  Vidame de Laon.  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[15].  “...Eberti vicedomini Laudunensis...” signed the charter dated 1121 under which “Wido Lescheriensis et Guisiensis” granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau[16]m HELVIDE, daughter of --- (-before 1116).  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[17].  Elbert & his wife had three children: 

a)         GUILLAUME .  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[18]

b)         GISELE .  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[19]

c)         DODE .  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed that “Elbertus et noster vice dominus” donated “partem...silve Aurigniaci” to Foigny, with the consent of “filii sui Willelmi et filiarum suarum Gisle et Dode...et Guidonis de Guisia”, by undated charter, dated to after 1115[20]

 

 

1.         PIERREVidame de Laon.  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[21]m ---.  The name of Pierre’s wife is not known.  Pierre & his wife had one child: 

a)         ADDO (-after 1116).  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[22]m ODELA, daughter of ---.  Barthélemy Bishop of Laon recorded that “Heluidis...uxor Iberti vicedomini” donated “alodium...in villa...Curbis” to Laon Saint-Vincent, and that after her death “Petrus”, whose son “Addo” married “neptim supradicte Heluydis...Oidelam”, obtained “vicedominatus” and confirmed the donation, by charter dated 1116[23]

 

2.         THOMASVidame [de Laon].  A charter dated 1129, under which Barthélemy Bishop of Laon excommunicated “Hugo comes Roceiensis”, records the presence of “milites: Ertandus qui in loco Hugonis comitis Roceiensis affuit...Thomas vicedominus...[24]

 

 

1.         GERARD de Clacy (-after 16 Apr 1131).  Vidame de Laon.  ...Gerardi vicedomini...” subscribed the charter dated 16 Apr 1131 under which Barthélemy Bishop of Laon confirmed the restitution of property to the abbey made by Mélisende, widow of Thomas de Marle[25]m ADELINE, daughter of ---.  She is named in the 1187 charter of her grandsons, cited below.  Gérard & his wife had one child: 

a)         SARRAZINE de Clacy .  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[26]m HECTOR, son of ---. 

 

2.         RAOUL .  Vidame de Laon.  Radulfo vicedomino et Hectore de Alneto” are named as present in the charter dated 1165 under which Gérard Bishop of Laon confirmed the church of Saint-Julien to Laon Saint-Vincent[27]

 

 

1.         HECTOR de --- Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy.  m SARRAZINE de Clacy, daughter of GERARD de Clacy Vidame de Laon & his wife Adeline ---.  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[28].  Hector & his wife had two children: 

a)         GERARD [II] de Clacy (-[1205/06]).  Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy.  Duchesne records that Gérard [II] Seigneur de Clacy, Vidame de Laon confirmed with his brother Raoul the donation of “la disme de tous les vinages et terres censieres de la parroisse de Monts” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Adeline leur ayeule” by charter dated 1187[29].  Duchesne records that, during his absence “outremer” in 1200, his wife Mathilde acquired vines from Laval and Vaucler which they jointly donated to Vauclair by charter dated 1205[30].  He died before the 1206 charter of his son, cited below.  m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after 1206).  Duchesne records that, during her husband’s absence “outremer” in 1200, his wife Mathilde acquired vines from Laval and Vaucler which they jointly donated to Vauclair by charter dated 1205[31].  Duchesne records that Gobert confirmed his father’s donations to Vauclair, with the consent of “Mahaut sa mère”, by charter dated 1206[32].  Gérard [II] & his wife had five children: 

i)          GOBERT de Clacy (-1221).  Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy.  Duchesne records that Gobert confirmed his father’s donations to Vauclair, with the consent of “Mahaut sa mère”, by charter dated 1206, as well as his death childless[33]m MARIE, daughter of ---.  Duchesne records her marriage[34]

ii)         RAOUL de Clacy .  Duchesne records his parentage, adding that he “fut d’Eglise[35]

iii)        GERARD [III] de Clacy (-after 1247).  Duchesne records his parentage[36]Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy.  m MARIE, daughter of ---.  Duchesne records her marriage[37].  Gérard [III] & his wife had three children: 

(a)       GERARD [IV] de Clacy .  Duchesne records his parentage and death childless[38]Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy. 

(b)       BAUDOUIN [I] de Clacy (-after Apr [1269/70]).  Duchesne records his parentage[39]Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy. 

-        see  below

(c)       MATHILDE de Clacy .  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, noting that the couple founded Ormont abbey in the archbishopric of Reims[40]m JEAN Seigneur de Courlandon, son of ---. 

iv)        PETRONILLE de Clacy .  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[41]m GUY de Montmort, son of ---. 

v)         SARRAZINE de Clacy .  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[42]m --- Seigneur d’Ostel, son of ---. 

b)         RAOUL de Clacy (-after 1187).  Duchesne records that Gérard [II] Seigneur de Clacy, Vidame de Laon confirmed with his brother Raoul the donation of “la disme de tous les vinages et terres censieres de la parroisse de Monts” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Adeline leur ayeule” by charter dated 1187[43]

 

 

BAUDOUIN [I] de Clacy, son of GERARD [III] Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy & his wife Marie --- (-after Apr [1269/70]).  Duchesne records his parentage, noting that he confirmed his predecessors donations to Vauclair by charter dated 1262[44]Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy.  Bauduins chevaliers vidame de Loonois et sires de Claci” agreed various rights with Laon Saint-Vincent by charters dated Apr 1269 (O.S.?), confirmed in another charter by Guillaume Bishop of Laon[45]

m ---.  The name of Baudouin’s wife is not known.  

Baudouin [I] & his wife had two children: 

1.         BAUDOUIN [II] de Clacy (-after 1327).  Duchesne records his parentage, and his mentions in 1301 and 1327[46]Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy.  m ---.  The name of Baudouin’s wife is not known.  Baudouin [II] & his wife one child: 

a)         MARIE de Clacy (-after 15 May 1352)Heiress of the Vidamé de Laon and of Clacy.  Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[47].  Duchesne records a charter dated May 1328 under which she and her husband donated property to Hôtel-Dieu[48].  Her children by her first husband inherited the Vidamé de Laon and seigneurie de Clacy.  She received Pontarcy as dower from her first marriage, and a settlement by way of dower after the death of her second husband by decision dated 15 May 1352[49]m firstly (before May 1328) HUGUES de Châtillon Seigneur de Pont-d’Arcis, d’Auzoy, et de Rozoy-en-Thiérache, son of GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon Comte de Porcien & his first wife Isabelle de Dreux (-Saint-Jean de Laune Aug 1336).  Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Clacy, de iure uxorism secondly (after Aug 1336) HUGUES de Roucy Seigneur de Pierrepont, son of JEAN [V] Comte de Roucy et de Braine & his wife Marguerite de Bommiers (-[9 Jul 1349/Jan 1352]). 

2.         MARIE de Clacy (-1321, bur Vauclair).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, her death in 1321 and burial at Vauclair[50]m JEAN Barat Seigneur de la Boue, son of ---. 

 

 

 

 

Chapter 2.    COUCY

 

 

A.      SEIGNEURS de COUCY

 

 

Coucy is located in the commune of Coucy-le-Château-Affrique, in the present-day French département of Aisne, south-east of the town of Chauny and due west of Laon.  It is likely that the domaine of Coucy was founded in the early 10th century, probably by Hérivée archbishop of Reims (in office from 900 to 922) although no primary source which confirms this speculation has been identified.  During the first half of the 10th century, possession of Coucy was disputed between the archbishop and other regional comital families as demonstrated by the following extracts from Flodoard:

  • In 927, Raoul King of France, during the course of his disputes with "Heribertum comitem" [Héribert [II] Comte de Vermandois], returned to Burgundy at one point and left "Lauduni" [Laon] in the hands of "Rotgarii filiis cum uxore sua" ["Rotgarii filiis" identified as the sons of Roger [I] Comte de Laon] who destroyed "circa Codiacum, episcopii Remensis castrum" [Coucy][51]
  • In 930, "Heribertus" granted "Codiciacum" to "Ansellum Bosonis vasallum" who held "Victoriacum"[52]
  • In 950, "Tetbaldum comitem" [Thibaut [I] "le Tricheur" Comte de Blois] was granted "castri Codiaci" but was later expelled "a Codiciaco"[53]
  • In 958, "fideles Artoldi præsulis" [Artaud Archbishop of Reims] recaptured "castrum Codiciacum" from "Harduinus subiectus Tetbaldi", but in 964 that "Odelricus Remensis archiepiscopus" excommunicated "Tetbaldum…propter castrum Codiciacum"[54], implying that Comte Thibaut [I] had retaken the castle. 

From these passages, we therefore learn that:

  • Coucy was originally the fief of the archbishopric of Reims. 
  • it was presumably occupied in the mid-920s by Héribert [I] Comte de Vermandois, and attacked, but not captured, by Roger [II] Comte de Laon and his brother(s) on behalf of the French king. 
  • Comte Héribert appointed Anseau as his vicomte or châtelain at Coucy in 930. 
  • Thibaut [I] Comte de Blois held Coucy for a brief period in the 950s. 
  • Coucy was recaptured by the archbishop of Reims in 958, but attacked and maybe retaken by Comte Thibaut [I] in the early 960s. 

 

Apart from the reference to Anseau in 930, no mention has been found of any seigneur or vicomte de Coucy until the late 1050s, when Aubry Seigneur de Coucy and Guillaume Vicomte de Coucy are named in the sources.  It is unclear how jurisdiction over Coucy was split between the vicomte and the seigneur.  No further reference to a vicomte de Coucy has been found after 1057.  Some time in the 1080s, Aubry lost his seigneurie to Enguerrrand [I] Seigneur de Boves Comte d’Amiens, the second husband of Ada de Marle who had been Aubry’s first wife.  This transmission of Coucy suggests that the domaine may have been Ada’s dowry, possibly inherited from her mother about whom nothing is known apart from her name.  After the descendants of Enguerrand [I] lost the county of Amiens, they retained Coucy which was one of their principle remaining territorial holdings (see Part C). 

 

 

Two siblings: 

1.         AUBRY (-after 1088).  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[55], he was Aubry, son of Ives [I] Comte de Beaumont & his wife Emma ---.  The primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified, and no indication has been found that it is correct.  The names Aubry and Foulques are not otherwise present in the family of the Comtes de Beaumont-sur-Oise and no indication has been found that Aubry held any property or position in the county.  Until further information comes to light, it is suggested that this supposed connection should be treated with caution.  Seigneur de Coucy 1059/79.  Elinand Bishop of Laon donations made by "Albricus de Cociaco castro…cum uxore sua Adela et matre eius Malthilde" by charter dated 3 Nov 1059[56].  "…Albrici de Cociaco…" witnessed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the rights of the abbey of Saint-Médard de Soissons[57].  Tardif quotes six charters dated between 1066 and 1079 in which "Albricus de Cociaco" is named[58]Philippe I King of France confirmed the foundation of the abbey of Saint-Jean des Vignes de Soissons by charter dated 1076, witnessed by Tetbaldus comes et Stephanus filius eius, Willelmus Gomes, Hugo de Castro-Theodorici, Albricus de Cociaco, Eurardus miles, Gofridus miles, Wido de Castellonio[59].  The Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi records that "vir nobilis, militiæ actibus implicitus…Guido" married "uxorem…Ermengardem" and records that "Albricus frater eius, Cotidiaci dominus" was captured and expelled "per consilium suæ coniugis Avelinæ"[60].  It is difficult to date this event precisely, but presumably it took place after 1079 when Aubry is mentioned in French sources at Coucy for the last time.  Later records indicate that Aubry settled in England, presumably after his expulsion from Coucy: Domesday Book records "the land of Aubrey de Coucy" in Hickleton and Cadeby in Yorkshire in 1086[61].  "…Alberici de Cuceio…" witnessed the charter dated 1088 under which "Rotbertus…Normannorum dux, filius Willelmi…Anglorum regis" donated rights "in villa…Ardevun" {Ardevon} to Mont Saint-Michel[62]m firstly (divorced [1059]) as her first husband, ADA de Marle [Dame de Coucy], daughter of LETAUD de Marle & his wife Mathilde ---.  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Letaldus de Marla…filiam nomine Adam" as mother of "Thomam de Marla"[63]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "filia…Letardi domni de Marla…Ada" as mother of "Thomam de Cocy"[64].  "Albericus de Cociaco…cum Adela uxore sua et matre eius Mathilde" granted privileges to the monastery of Nogent-sous-Coucy by charter dated 1059[65], although the primary source which confirms that she was the daughter of Letaud, as well as the same daughter who later married Enguerrand de Coucy, has not yet been identified.  [Heiress of Coucy]: as Coucy passed from her first husband to her second husband, it is supposed that Ada was heiress of Coucy, although no primary source has yet been identified which confirms that this speculation is correct.  She married secondly Enguerrand de Boves Comte d’Amiens, Seigneur de Coucym secondly AVELINE, daughter of ---.  The Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi records that "vir nobilis, militiæ actibus implicitus…Guido" married "uxorem…Ermengardem" and records that "Albricus frater eius, Cotidiaci dominus" was captured and expelled "per consilium suæ coniugis Avelinæ"[66].  Aubry & his [first/second] wife had one child: 

a)         FOULQUES (-after [1092]).  "…Fulcone filio Alberici" is recorded as present in the charter dated to [1092] under which "Dominus Adam et Philippus suus filius nec non et uxor Philippi" donated property "apud insulam in tuwi sua" to Saint-Martin-de-Pontoise[67]

2.         ERMENGARDE (-after 1076).  The Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi records that "vir nobilis, militiæ actibus implicitus…Guido" married "uxorem…Ermengardem" and records that "Albricus frater eius, Cotidiaci dominus" was captured and expelled "per consilium suæ coniugis Avelinæ"[68]m GUY Seigneur de Châtillon, son of --- (-after 1076). 

 

 

 

B.      VICOMTES de COUCY

 

 

1.         GUILLAUME (-after 18 May 1057).  Vicomte de Coucy.  "…Villermi vicecomitis de Couciaco…" witnessed the charter dated 18 May 1057 under which Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons[69]

 

 

 

C.      SEIGNEURS de COUCY

 

 

ENGUERRAND [II] de Coucy, son of THOMAS Comte d’Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy & his third wife Mélisende de Crécy-sur-Serre (-after 1147, bur Nazareth)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ingelrannum de Marla et Robertum Bovensem et filiam nomine matris" as children of "Thomam de Marla" and his wife Mélisende[70]Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ingelrannum…et Robertum Bovensem" as sons of "Thomas de Coci" and his "secundo uxor domna de Bovis"[71].  A charter dated 16 Apr 1131 records the restoration of “Erlons et manso sancti Lamberti” to Laon Saint-Vincent, subscribed by “Gerardi vicedomini, Nicholai castellani...domine Milesendis, Ingelranni filii euus...[72].  The History of Louis VII King of France names "…Ingerannus de Coceio…"  among those who accompanied King Louis VII on crusade in 1147[73].  Tardif suggests that it is "très probable qu’Enguerran II de la Fère disparut dans un [des] combats" of the Crusade[74].  His place of burial is confirmed by a charter dated 1168 in which [his son] Raoul [I] de Coucy donated property to Nazareth church “in qua corpus eius [patris mei Ingerranni] requiescit[75].  This document suggests that Tardif was probably correct about Enguerrand’s timing and place of death.  On the other hand, a manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records Enguerrand’s burial “à Prémontré[76]

m (1132) AGNES de Baugency, daughter of RAOUL Seigneur de Baugency & his wife Mathilde de Vermandois (-bur Laon Saint-Vincent).  The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses records "Agnes uxor domini Ingelranni de Cociaco" as daughter of "domina de Baugenciaco primogenita [comitis Hugonis li Maines]" and as mother of "domini Radulphi de Cociaco, et de eodem Radulfo Ingelrannus de Cociaco, nunc vivens"[77].  A more explicit reference which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records her burial “à St Vincent de Laon[78]

Enguerrand [II] & his wife had two children: 

1.         RAOUL [I] de Coucy (after 1142-killed siege of Acre Nov 1191, bur Abbaye de Foigny)The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "domini Radulphi de Cociaco…" as son of "Agnes uxor domini Ingelranni de Cociaco"[79]Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle.  "Radulphus de Marla" confirmed the donation to Thenailles abbey made by "patris mei Ingelranni" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Agnes uxor mea, Ada filia mea…"[80].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[81].  "Radulphus…Cociaci et Marlæ dominus…Engelranni filius" donated property to Saint-Denis, for the souls of "meæ, Agnetis uxoris meæ" and especially for the soul of "fratris mei Engelranni" who was buried in the abbey, by charter dated 1174[82].  He was one of the advisers of Philippe II King of France.  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, appointed "Ingelranno filio meo…prior natu" as his main heir, bequeathed "Veruinum, Fontanas et Landousies" to "filius meus Thomas", money to "Radulfo qui clericali promotus est officio…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea", and the dowry of his mother "et villam meam ad sui ædificationem Pinon" to "Roberto"[83].  Laborde indicates that Raoul de Coucy went on crusade with his son-in-law Raoul de Roucy and that they both died “en Palestine, l’un peu de tems avant l’autre” (no sources cited)[84].  Duchesne says that Raoul de Coucy was killed "au siège de la ville d’Acre" in 1191 and his body brought back to "l’Abbaye de Foisny"[85].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records Raoul’s burial “à Foigny, dans le cloître près la sacristie[86]m firstly (before 1164) AGNES de Hainaut, daughter of BAUDOUIN IV Comte de Hainaut & his wife Alice de Namur ([1140/45]-1174 or after, bur Nogent-sous-Coucy).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Yolandem, Agnetem, Lauretam" as the daughters of "Alidis comitissa Hanonensis …cum viro Balduino comite", specifying that the second daughter Agnes married "Radulphus de Cocy qui et Cociacum et Marlam et Vervinum et Feram castra possidebat"[87].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "comitem Balduinum, Henricum de Seburgo et quatuor sorores" as children of "comiti Balduini de Haynaco", naming one daughter (first among those listed) "Agnes [uxor] Rodulfo de Marla"[88].  "Radulphus de Marla" confirmed the donation to Thenailles abbey made by "patris mei Ingelranni" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Agnes uxor mea, Ada filia mea…"[89].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[90].  "Radulphus…Cociaci et Marlæ dominus…Engelranni filius" donated property to Saint-Denis, for the souls of "meæ, Agnetis uxoris meæ" and especially for the soul of "fratris mei Engelranni" who was buried in the abbey, by charter dated 1174[91].  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[92].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[93].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records Agnès’s burial “à Nogent, comme le dit une charte de 1190 (fo. 24 vo)[94]m secondly (after 1174) ALIX de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [I] de Dreux [Capet] & his second wife Agnes de Baudemont Dame de Braine (1156-after Feb 1217).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Engelranni de Coci Petronillam" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" and his second wife[95].  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[96].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[97].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea"[98]She governed Coucy after the death of her husband.  Raoul [I] & his first wife had three children:

a)         YOLANDE de Coucy ([1164]-Braine, Aisne 18 Mar 1222, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Yolande married "Roberto comiti de Drecis et de Braina, filioque Roberti comitis fratris Ludovici regis Francorum"[99].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[100].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[101].  "Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum" donated property "in…Rupis Fortis" to Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, with the consent of "uxoris mee Yolendis", by charter dated to [1184/1200][102].  “Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum et Braye, et Yolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated property to Notre-Dame, Paris, with the consent of “Roberti filii nostri”, by charter dated 1208[103]"R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum" by charter dated Jul 1212[104]The necrology of Reims [Saint-Rémi] records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Ioles Brane comitissa"[105]m (1184) as his second wife, ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux, son of ROBERT [I] "le Grand" Seigneur de Dreux & his second wife Agnès de Baudemont dame de Braine ([1153]-28 Dec 1218, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived)

b)         MELISENDE [Agnès/Isabelle] de Coucy ([1165?]-)The explanation for her different names in the sources cited below has not been found.  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Agnes married firstly "Radulpho comiti de Roci", after whose death childless, she married secondly "comiti de Grandiprato, non considerata supradicta progenie de Lusceleborch"[106].  Vanderkindere explains the phrase “non considerata...” by suggesting that it indicates her consanguinity with her second husband who was the great-grandson of Conrad I Comte de Luxembourg, while she was Conrad I’s great-great granddaughter (Conrad’s daughter married Godefroi Comte de Namur, their daughter Alix married Baudouin IV Comte de Hainaut, whose daughter Agnes and her husband Raoul [I] Seigneur de Coucy were the parents of Mélisende/Agnès)[107].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[108].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[109].  The date of Mélisende/Agnès’s first marriage is suggested by the 1178 charter in which her first husband is recorded with an unnamed wife, suggesting her birth in [1165] (bearing in mind her older sister’s birth earlier).  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard Comte de Roucy donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho...et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180[110].  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors’ donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[111].  Her second marriage is confirmed by the Chronicon Hanoniense cited above.  In her translation of the Chronicon Hanoniense, Laura Napran says that Henri [III] de Grandpré married “Agnes’s daughter Isabelle, not Agnes herself[112], which appears chronologically impossible (no other document has yet been identified which gives the name “Isabelle” to “Mélusine/Agnès”).  While her first husband probably died in [1187/90] (follow his hyperlink for a fuller discussion), the date of her second marriage is difficult to establish.  The chronology of the Grandpré family suggests that the late 1180s would already have been late for Henri [III]’s first marriage, when he would have been in his late thirties or even older (follow his hyperlink for a full discussion about estimating his age).  No indication has been found about Mélisende/Agnès’s date of death.  m firstly ([1178]) RAOUL [I] Comte de Roucy, son of GUISCARD Comte de Roucy & his wife Elisabeth de Mareil (-Palestine [1187/90?]).  m secondly ([1188/91?]) as his first wife, HENRI [III] Comte de Grandpre, son of HENRI [II] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Luitgard de Luxembourg ([1150?]-[killed in battle Carcassonne] 1211, bur [Belval]).

c)         ADA de Coucy (-after 1199).  "Radulphus de Marla" confirmed the donation to Thenailles abbey made by "patris mei Ingelranni" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Agnes uxor mea, Ada filia mea…"[113].  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Ada married "in Flandria Theoderico de Beverna…castellano de Dicamuda"[114].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la tierce fille monsigneur Raoul de Couchi...Ada" married “monsigneur Thierri de Bevre chastelain de Dikemue, qui ot de lui 2 fius et 3 filles.  Li ainsnes des fius...Thierris...sires de Bevres et chastelains de Dykemue apries son pere.  Li autres...Guillaumes.  L’une des filles Thierri signour de Bevre fu mariee a signour de Grinberghes, ki ot de li une fille qui fu hoirs de sa terre.  Si l’ot a feme Godefrois li sires de Pierewes.  La seconde fille monsigneur Thierri de Bevre fu mariee a...monsigneur Willaume de Hondescote, qui ot de li un fil...Pieres qui apries son pere tint l’yretage de son pere.  Encore ot mesires Willaumes de Hondescote pluisours fius et filles.  La tierche fille monsigneur Thierri de Bevre fut mariee a monsigneur Gobert de Monchablon qui ot de li un fil et une fille, li fius...Gobers...[qui] tint la terre apries la mort Gobert son pere[115].  “Theodoricus dominus de Beverna castellanus de Dixmuda et...uxor mea Ada” donated property to “ecclesia Viconiensi” by charter dated 1199[116]m [as his first wife,] DIRK [II] van Beveren Châtelain de Dixmude, son of --- (-after Apr 1203). 

Raoul [I] & his second wife had five children:

d)         ENGUERRAND [III] de Coucy (-1243, bur Foigny or Longpont)The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Ingelrannus de Cociaco, nunc vivens" as son of "domini Radulphi de Cociaco"[117]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère et de Crécy. 

-        see below

e)         THOMAS de Coucy (-[1252/53]).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[118]Seigneur de Vervins. 

-        SEIGNEUR de VERVINS

f)          ROBERT de Coucy (-after Mar 1234).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[119].  Seigneur de Pinon. 

-        SEIGNEURS de PINON

g)         RAOUL de Coucy (-after 1190).  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[120].  Priest.  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "Radulfo qui clericali promotus est officio…"[121]

h)         AGNES de Coucy (-1214 or after).  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed money to "…Agneti…filiæ meæ…Aelidis uxor mea"[122]The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…domini Radulphi de Couchi Agnes" married "domino de Beaumés Egidio castellano de Bapalmes", by whom she had "quatuor…filios et filias…quorum primogenitus ex sorore domini Iacobi de Bailluel in Haynonia filios genuit et filias, secundus…Radulphus uxorem duxit dominam de Baudour relictam domini de Walaincourt et sine liberis mortuus est, tertius…Thomas clericus…et postea Remensis archiepiscopus, quartus Robertus cognomen habuit de Britannia, eo quod nutritus fuerat cum comite Britanniæ Petro"[123]m (after 1190) GILLES de Beaumetz Châtelain de Bapaume, son of HUGUES de Beaumetz Châtelain de Bapaume & his wife Beatrix de Guines (-after 1214). 

2.         ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-1174 or before, bur Saint-Denis).  "Radulphus…Cociaci et Marlæ dominus…Engelranni filius" donated property to Saint-Denis, for the souls of "meæ, Agnetis uxoris meæ" and especially for the soul of "fratris mei Engelranni" who was buried in the abbey, by charter dated 1174[124]

 

 

The precise relationship between the following, probable brother and sister, and Raoul Seigneur de Coucy has not yet been established: 

1.         RAOUL (-after 1187).  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[125]

2.         MARGUERITE (-after 1187).  An undated charter relates to "feodum de Firmitate" held by "Jobertum de Firmitate et Margaretam uxorem suam", previously held by "Radulfus de Couceio"[126].  "Radulfus dominus Cociaci…assensu Aelidis uxoris meæ" donated property to "Roberto de Attrio" by charter dated 1187, witnessed by "Radulfus clericus nepos meus, Margareta de Firmitate neptis mea…"[127]m JOSBERT de la Ferté-Béliard, son of ---.  [Thibaut Comte de Blois confirmed that “Josbertus de Firmitate”, departing for Jerusalem, donated property “in villa Petrecini” to Clairvaux, with the consent of “Gertrude uxore sua”, by charter dated 1145, witnessed by “...Hugo dominus de Bello Monte sororius eius...[128].  This charter has not been linked to any other “Josbert de la Ferté”.  It is placed here for convenience until more information comes to light about this family and it can be fitted into the right place.] 

 

 

ENGUERRAND [III] de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his second wife Alix de Dreux (-1243, bur Foigny, or Longpont)The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Ingelrannus de Cociaco, nunc vivens" as son of "domini Radulphi de Cociaco"[129]"Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[130].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, appointed "Ingelranno filio meo…prior natu" as his main heir[131]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère et de Crécy.  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[132]"Ingelrannus dominus de Marla" donated property to Thenailles by charter dated 1201[133]Comte de Roucy: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[134]Comte du Perche 1205.  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[135].  "Ingelrannus de Couciaco dominus de Fara" donated annual payments to Fère, with the consent of "uxoris meæ Matildis comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum meorum Thomæ et Roberti", by charter dated 1207[136].  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[137]Ingerannus dominus Couciaci” confirmed the grant of “legem Vervini in perpetuum” to “hominibus in...villa de la Beuriere” made by “fœlicis memoriæ Ælidæ quondam dominæ Couciaci matre mea, assensu meo et assensu Thomæ et Roberti fratrum meorum et Agnetis sororis meæ” by charter dated Apr 1233[138]The Annales Londonienses record the death in 1244 of "Engilrammus de Cucy pater reginæ Scotiæ" after falling from his horse and being dragged into a river in which he was stabbed by his own sword[139].  His place of burial is confirmed by the Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) which records that Jean, third son of Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy, was buried “à Foiny auprés son pere[140].  On the other hand, a manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records Enguerrand’s burial “à Longpont[141]

m firstly (1200 or before, divorced [1200/04]) as her second husband, EUSTACHIE Ctss de Roucy, widow of ROBERT Seigneur de Pierrepont Comte de Roucy, daughter of GUISCARD Comte de Roucy & his wife Elisabeth de Mareuil (-[May 1208/1211]).  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[142].  Her parentage is confirmed as follows.  Her second husband called himself Comte de Roucy in 1202: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[143]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant [Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy] ot trois femmes, la premiere...la contesse du Perche, la seconde...la contesse de Roucy", both marriages being childless[144].  While this source reverses the order of the marriages, it confirms that Enguerrand did at one time marry a comtesse de Roucy.  Du Chesne interprets the documentation differently, stating that Enguerrand married firstly "Beatrix de Vignory veuve de Jean I...comte de Roucy"[145].  The 1200 charter which names Eustachie indicates that Du Chesne cannot be correct and that Enguerrand’s wife was the widow of Robert de Pierrepont.  If the hypothesis shown here is correct, Enguerrand must have divorced Eustachie soon after the marriage.  She is named in a charter dated May 1208: "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth"[146], and Enguerrand’s second marriage is dated to [1204].

m secondly (1204) as her second husband, MATHILDE of Saxony, widow of GEOFFROY [III] Comte du Perche, daughter of HEINRICH "der Löwe" ex-Duke of Saxony and Bavaria & his second wife Matilda of England (1172-13 Jan [1209/10]).  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[147].  "Ingelrannus de Couciaco dominus de Fara" donated annual payments to Fère, with the consent of "uxoris meæ Matildis comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum meorum Thomæ et Roberti", by charter dated 1207[148].  The necrology of the Abbaye des Clairets records the death "Id Jan" of "Mathildis comitissa fundatrix Claretorum"[149]

m thirdly MARIE de Montmirail, daughter of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Montmirail & his wife Helvide de Dampierre (-20 Sep 1272, bur Longpont).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam uxorem Ingelranni de Coci" as daughter of "Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili"[150].  Heiress of Montmirail, Oisy, Crèvecœur, Condé-en-Brie, le Vicomté de Meaux et la Châtelainie de Cambrai.  "Marie dame de Montmirail" requested the king of Navarre to recognise the lands of "Enguerran sire de Coucy son fils" which he inherited after the death of "son frere Mathieu seigneur de Montmirail et d’Oisy" by charter dated 1262[151].  "Ingelrannus, Couciaci, Montis Mirabilis et Oysiaci dominus" recognised the freedoms of “ecclesie Beate Marie de Grandi Campo, Cluniacensis ordinis, Meldensis dyocesis”, with the support of “Maria domina de Fara mater predicti Ingelranni”, by charter dated 13 Jan 1266[152].  The primary source which confirms her date of death has not been identified.  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, reproduces the epitaph at Longpont of the burial of “Maria domina de Fara...filia quondam...militis...monachi fratris Joannis, quondam domini de Montemirabili, mater dni Ingelranni de Couci[153]

Enguerrand [III] & his third wife had [eight or more] children: 

1.         RAOUL [II] de Coucy (-killed in battle Faraskur 6 Apr 1250, bur Laon Saint-Martin).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "Raoul" as the oldest son of "Enguerran de Coucy", adding that he died "sans hoirs de son corps Outre-mer, avec le comte d’Arthois au temps que le Roy S. Louis fut prins à la Massoure"[154]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle et de la Fère.  Matthew Paris records the death of "Radulphus de Cuscy" in the battle in which Louis IX King of France was captured[155].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Raoul “à St Martin de Laon[156]m (after Nov 1246) as her second husband, PHILIPPA de Dammartin, widow of RAOUL de Lusignan Comte d’Eu, daughter of SIMON de Dammartin Comte de Ponthieu & his wife Marie Ctss de Ponthieu (-[14 Apr 1278/1281]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to, but does not name, the four daughters of "comes de Pontivo Symon" (in order) as the wives of "rex Castelle de Hispanie Fernandus…maiorem filius vicecomitis de Castro Araudi…filius comitis de Augo…comes de Roceio"[157].  "Philippa quondam comitissa Augi et domina Couciaci" granted a fief by charter dated Jul 1251[158].  She married thirdly ([1252/54]) as his second wife, Otto II Graaf van Gelre.  The Kronik van Arent toe Bocop records that "Otto…grave van Gelre" married secondly "Philippa, de grave van Syntpols dochter"[159]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that the wife of "Raoul", oldest son of "Enguerran de Coucy", married secondly "le conte Otte de Guelles"[160]

2.         JEAN de Coucy (-before 1245).  The order of births of the sons of Enguerrand [III] is unclear.  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Ioannes" second brother of "primogenitus Radulphus" died young[161].  However, the Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "Enguerrant de Coucy" as the second son of Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy and Jean as his third son, adding that he died young and was buried “à Foiny auprés son pere[162]

3.         ENGUERRAND [IV] de Coucy (-1310, bur Foigny).  Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Montmirail et de Crèvecœur.  He succeeded his brother in 1250 as Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle et de la Fère.  "Ingelranni Cociaci, Montismirabilis et Oisiaci domini et Mariæ uxoris eius" donated annual revenue "in castellania de Firmitate Angulfi" to Grandchamp priory by charter dated 1260[163].  "Marie dame de Montmirail" requested the king of Navarre to recognise the lands of "Enguerran sire de Coucy son fils" which he inherited after the death of "son frere Mathieu seigneur de Montmirail et d’Oisy" by charter dated 1262[164].  "Ingelrannus, Couciaci, Montis Mirabilis et Oysiaci dominus" recognised the freedoms of “ecclesie Beate Marie de Grandi Campo, Cluniacensis ordinis, Meldensis dyocesis”, with the support of “Maria domina de Fara mater predicti Ingelranni”, by charter dated 13 Jan 1266[165].  "Ingelranni domini Couciaci, nec non Montis-mirabilis et Oesiaci et Margaretæ eius uxoris" sold property to "Ioanni Sarracensi cambellano domini regis et Agneti eius uxori" by charter dated Oct 1266[166].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand “à Foigny au mesme sépulchre que Raoul I, près de la porte de l’église par où on va au chapitre[167]m firstly (before 1260) MARIE, daughter of --- (-[1260/61]).  "Ingelranni Cociaci, Montismirabilis et Oisiaci domini et Mariæ uxoris eius" donated annual revenue "in castellania de Firmitate Angulfi" to Grandchamp priory by charter dated 1260[168].  It is not known whether “Mariæ” in this document is a mistake for “Margaretæ”, in which case this person could have been the same person as Enguerrand’s known wife.  Another possibility is that “uxoris eius” was a mistake for “matris eius”, and therefore that this document referts to Enguerrand’s mother not his wife.  m secondly (before 1262) MARGARETA van Gelre, daughter of OTTO II Graaf van Gelre & his first wife Margareta von Kleve (-before 1286).  "Ingelranni domini Couciaci, nec non Montis-mirabilis et Oesiaci et Margaretæ eius uxoris" sold property to "Ioanni Sarracensi cambellano domini regis et Agneti eius uxori" by charter dated Oct 1266[169]The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Ingelramus" married "filiam Ottonis comitis Gelriæ Margaretam"[170]m thirdly (May 1288) JEANNE de Flandre, daughter of ROBERT III "de Béthune" Count of Flanders & his second wife Yolande de Bourgogne Ctss de Nevers [Capet] (-15 Oct 1333).  The Anciennes Chroniques de Flandre record that "la seconde [fille]" of "Robert" married "au seigneur de Couchy"[171].  A charter of Rupelmonde records that "Enguerran Sire de Coucy" married "dame Jeanne de Flandres fille aisnée du comte Robert de Flandres" in 1288[172].  She became abbess of Sauvoir near Laon after her husband died[173]

4.         other children (-bur Prémontré).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Monsieur Enguerrant" (which from the context refers to Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy) “plusieurs autres enfans qui moururent jeunes et gisent tous à Premonstré[174].  The number of these children is not indicated, but presumably “plusieurs” indicates that there were at least three. 

5.         MARIE de Coucy (-[1284/85], bur Newbottle, Scotland).  She is named by Matthew Paris, who also names her father when he records her (first) marriage[175].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the marriage in 1239 of "Ingelrannus de Coci…filiam suam" and "regi Scotie Alexandro"[176].  The Liber Pluscardensis records the marriage at Roxburgh in 1239 of "rex Alexander Scociæ" and "filiam domini de Coussy Mariam"[177].  She returned to France 29 Sep 1251 after her husband's death[178].  King Henry III granted free passage to “Johanni filio regis Jerusalem, regni Franciæ buticulario...et consorti vestræ reginæ Scotiæ” by charter dated 6 Jun 1257[179].  John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Maria mater regis Alexandri…uxor Johannis de Aconia" fled her husband for Scotland in 1265[180].  John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death of "Maria mater Alexandri tertii regis Scotiæ in partibus transmarinis", dated to [1284/85] from the context[181]m firstly (Roxburgh 15 May 1239[182]) as his second wife, ALEXANDER II King of Scotland, son of WILLIAM I “the Lion” King of Scotland & his wife Ermengarde de Beaumont (Haddington, East Lothian 24 Aug 1198-Isle of Kerrara, Bay of Oban 6 Jul 1249, bur Melrose Abbey, Roxburghshire).  m secondly (before 6 Jun 1257) as his second wife, JEAN de Brienne "d'Acre", son of JEAN de Brienne King of Jerusalem & his third wife Infanta doña Berenguela de Castilla y León (-1296).   

6.         ALIX de Coucy (-13 Oct, 1283 or after).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "la seconde fille de monsieur Enguerrant, qui fist faire le chastel de Coucy…Alix" married "au conte Ernoul de Guignes"[183].  "Arnulphus comes Guinensis" sold "iuris dominii et possessionis habebam…in villis et territoriis de Guinis, de le Montoire, de Tornehem" to Philippe III King of France, while providing for "Aelidis uxor nostra" should she survive him, by charter dated Feb 1282[184].  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “13 Oct“ 1354 [which is too late considering the chronology of the family] of "dominæ Aelidis de Coci comitissæ de Guines” and her donation of “1000 librarum in vasis tum argenteis tum aureis[185]m ARNOUL [III] Comte de Guines, son of BAUDOUIN Comte de Guines & his wife Mathilde de Fiennes (-after Feb 1282). 

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de COUCY (GUINES)

 

 

ENGUERRAND de Guines, son of ARNOUL [III] Comte de Guines & his wife Alix de Coucy (-after 1321, bur Prémontré).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "Enguerrant" as the second son of "la seconde fille de monsieur Enguerrant, qui fist faire le chastel de Coucy…Alix" and her husband "au conte Ernoul de Guignes"[186]Seigneur de Coucy, d'Oisy et de Montmirail.  "Enguerrans de Guines Sires de Coucy et d’Oisy et de Mommiral et Iohans de Guines Viscoens de Meaux, Sires de Fertez Gauchier et Ancoul" agreed the partition of territories inherited from "de bonne memoire...Engerran iadis Seigneur de Coucy et de Oisy et de Mommiral nostre...oncle" by charter dated Jul 1311[187]A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand “à Prémontré...[188]

m (before 1285) CHRISTIAN de Lindsay, daughter of WILLIAM de Lindsay of Lamberton & his wife Ada Balliol ([1267]-1320 or after, bur Prémontré).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife, was married "en Escosse" by "le Roy Alexandre d’Escosse à qui cousins germains estoit"[189].  An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire, names “Christiana de Lyndesay” as daughter of “secundo Willielmo”, adding that she married “Ingelranum de Gynes[190].  A charter dated 28 May 1283 records the fealty sworn to King Edward I by "Ingeram de Gynes" who has married "Cristiana daughter and heiress of William de Lindesi deceased" for her father’s lands[191].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records her burial “à Prémontré...[192]

Enguerrand & his wife had [five] children: 

1.         GUILLAUME de Coucy (-1335, bur Prémontré)The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz, dont...quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[193]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail. 

-        see below

2.         ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-1344)The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz, dont...quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[194]Vicomte de Meaux.  Seigneur de Condé-en-Brie, de la Ferté-Ancoul, et d’Autrèches.  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...le second fils dudit Enguerran l’ayol fu Enguerrand[195]

-        VICOMTES de MEAUX

3.         BAUDOUIN (-after 1303).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz, dont...quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[196]

4.         ROBERT (-after 1330).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz, dont...quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[197]Seigneur de la Ferté-Gaucher, de Rommeny-sur-Marne et de Chemigny.  Letters dated 1330 were issued by "Robers de Coucy Chantre de Cambray, Sires de Chasteleir, du petit Chaulon, et de Courcelles en Brie" and name "son...Seigneur et nepvev Monseigneur Enguerran Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy, et de Montmirel"[198].  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail..." and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" concerning (among other things, see below for more details) “la terre qui fu Monsieur Robert de Coucy nostre oncle Chantre et Chanoine de Cambray, assise en Champagne et en Brie...les terres de Romeny et de Chamigny...et li escheirent par la mort feu Gaucher de Chastellon iadis Vicomte de Meaulx[199]

5.         --- de Coucy (-before 1303).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant...marié en Escosse" had "de sa femme cinq filz, dont il en avoit quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait"[200]

 

 

GUILLAUME de Coucy, son of ENGUERRAND [V] Seigneur de Coucy [Guines] & his wife Christian de Lindsay (-1335, bur Prémontré).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz, dont...quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[201]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail.  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...” who had “quatre fils et deux filles...Jean second fils de Guillaume” died childless and was succeeded by “Messire Raoul frere dudit Jean...iusques à Messire Aubert”, adding that “le pere dudit Raoul” died 1335[202].  Père Anselme records his place of burial “sous une magnifique sépulture[203].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records “damoiselle Jehane de Coucy nonain et dame de lostelerie de ceste eglise fille Mos. Guille seingneur de Coucy et de Madame Isabel de Saint Pol” who died 6 Jul 1379[204].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand and his wife “à Prémontré...en un riche et honorable sépulchre, auquel furent mis leurs enfans...[205]

m (contract May 1311) ISABELLE de Châtillon, daughter of GUY [III] de Châtillon Comte de Saint Pol & his wife Marie de Bretagne (-19 May 1360, bur Prémontré).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by letters dated May 1311 which record the marriage contract between “Guillaume fils aisné d’Enguerran sire de Coucy chevalier” and “mademoiselle Isabel fille de monsieur Guy de Chastillon Comte de S. Pol bouteiller de France[206].  Her dower is referred to in the Sep 1347 document cited below under her daughter-in-law Katharina of Austria.  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail” married “Ysabel de Saint Pol”, by whom he had “quatre fils et deux filles : dont l’aisné Enguerrand” married “Madame Catherine d’Austriche, dont est venu Monsieur de Coucy d’huy” and “le second fils dudit Enguerran l’ayol fu Enguerrand”, adding that “Ysabel” died “l’an mcccxlv” [which appears to be incorrect][207].  The primary source which confirms her date of death has not been identified.  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand and his wife “à Prémontré...en un riche et honorable sépulchre, auquel furent mis leurs enfans...[208]

Guillaume & his wife had six children: 

1.         ENGUERRAND [VI] (-killed in battle 25 Aug 1346, bur Ourscamp)The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii" [Jan 1350?] "Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail” married “Ysabel de Saint Pol”, by whom he had “quatre fils et deux filles : dont l’aisné Enguerrand” married “Madame Catherine d’Austriche, dont est venu Monsieur de Coucy d’huy[209]Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail.  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand and his wife “à Ourscamp[210]m (contract Vincennes 25 Nov 1338) as her first husband, KATHARINA of Austria, daughter of LEOPOLD I Duke of Austria & his wife Catherine de Savoie (9 Feb 1320-28 Sep 1349, bur Ourscamp or Königsfelden).  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...ayant le bail et la garde d’Enguerran nostre fil menre d’âge, Seigneur desdiz lieus" and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" made "apres le trespas de Baron de bonne memoire nostre...Seigneur et pere feu Guillaume iadis Seigneur desdiz lieux" with "nostre...frere aisné feu Monsieur Enguerran iadis Seigneur desdiz lieux mary de ladite Madame de Coucy...", concerning “la terre qui fu Monsieur Robert de Coucy nostre oncle Chantre et Chanoine de Cambray, assise en Champagne et en Brie...les terres de Romeny et de Chamigny...et li escheirent par la mort feu Gaucher de Chastellon iadis Vicomte de Meaulx” and relating to revenue “de terre assise à feu Monsieur Engerran de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux leur oncle et pour cause du douaire assis à...Ysabel de Saint-Pol leur mere...[211].  "Katherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail" granted revenue to "son...chevalier et conseiller Mahieux de Roye Sire d’Aunoy en Normandie, Maistre des Arbalestriers du Roy de France" for his services, on condition of his continuing to advise and help “son...fils Enguerran de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy, et de Montmirail” for life, by charter dated 1349[212].  She married secondly (Feb 1348 (O.S.?)) Konrad Graf von Hardegg Burggraf von Magdeburg.  The Chronicle of Matthias Nueweburgensis records the death in 1349 of "domina de Kussi, filia quondam Lupoldi ducis Austrie" and "Conradus de Megdburg maritus eius"[213].  A document dated 17 Nov 1350 records a lawsuit between Laon Saint-Vincent and "defunctam Katerinam de Austria dominam de Couciaco suo nomine et ut habentem baillum seu gardiam Inguerrandi de Couciaco domini eius liberi minoris annis", before "dicta defuncta cum ultimo eius marito matrimonium contraxisset..."[214].  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand and his wife “à Ourscamp[215].  On the other hand, secondary sources record her burial at Königsfelden (corresponding primary source not identified).  Enguerrand [VI] & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         ENGUERRAND [VII] ([1339]-Bursa, Anatolia of plague 18 Nov 1397, bur Nogent-sous-Coucy, his heart buried at Soissons, Abbaye de Villeneuve)Seigneur de Coucy, de Marle, de la Fère d’Oisy et de Montmirail.  He was sent to England in 1360 as one of the hostages for Jean II King of France.  Created Earl of Bedford 11 May 1366.  Comte de Soissons 9 Jul 1367.  He resigned all his English honours 26 Aug 1377 to King Richard II, and devoted himself to serving France.  “Ingelramus de Coucy et Isabella uxor eius amita nostra” swore allegiance to Richard II King of England by charter dated 15 Mar 1379[216].  Marshal and Grand Butler of France.  Having refused the appointment of Connétable of France, he was appointed Governor of Brittany.  Member of the Council of Regency during the minority of Charles VI King of France.  The History of the monastery at Soissons records its foundation 1 Jul 1391 by "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy…et consorte mea Isabelli de Lotharingia"[217]He was taken prisoner at Nicopolis by the Turks.  A manuscript Mémoires pour faire l’Histoire des Seigneurs de Coucy, written at Nogent-sous-Coucy before 1631, records the burial of Enguerrand “à Nogent-sous-Coucy...” and his heart buried “au couvent des Célestins de Villeneuve près Soissons”, the epitaph of the latter recording the death of “messire Enguerrant jadis chevalier seigneur de Coucy et conte de Soissons premier fondateur de ce present monastere...contre les turcs” 18 Feb 1396 (date incorrect?)[218]m firstly (27 Jul 1365) ISABELLA of England, daughter of EDWARD III King of England & his wife Philippa de Hainaut (Woodstock Palace, Oxfordshire 16 Feb or [Mar] or 16 Jun [1332 or 1334]-[15 Mar/4 May] 1379 or [17 Jun/5 Oct] 1382, bur Greyfriars Church, Newgate, London).  The Chronicon Angliæ records the marriage “apud Wyndeshourc” of “Ingehamus dominus de Couuci” and “Isabellam filiam regis Edwardi tertii”, dated to 1365 from the context[219].  She remained in England after her husband resigned his English honours in 1377.  “Ingelramus de Coucy et Isabella uxor eius amita nostra” swore allegiance to Richard II King of England by charter dated 15 Mar 1379[220]m secondly (contract 26 Feb 1386) ISABELLE de Lorraine, daughter of JEAN I Duke of Lorraine & his wife Sophie von Württemberg (-after 1423)The History of the monastery at Soissons records its foundation 1 Jul 1391 by "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy…et consorte mea Isabelli de Lotharingia"[221].  Dame de Florennes, de Martigny et de Rumigny.  Enguerrand [VII] & his first wife had two children: 

i)          MARIE (-1404)The History of the monastery at Soissons records that "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy" had "duas filias Mariam…et Philippam" from his first wife "filia Eduardi Angliæ regis", adding that Marie married "domino Henrico de Bar"[222]The Histoire Latine du Roy Charles VI records that “Henricus qui erat primogenitus”, son of "ducis Barrensis uxor...Maria filia quondam Ioannis Regis Franciæ", married “filia...antiquiori domini de Couciaco Ingerranni[223].  The marriage contract between “Robert Duc de Bar, Marquis du Pont...Henry aisné fils de nous Duc” and “Enguerrand Sire de Coucy et Comte de Soissons...Marie aisnée fille de nous Sire de Coucy” is dated 1383[224]Ctss de Soissons.  Heiress of Coucy and Oisy.  m HENRI de Bar, son of ROBERT I Duc de Bar & his wife Marie de France (Bar-le-Duc [1367]-Treviso Nov 1398, bur Paris, couvent des Celestins). 

ii)         PHILIPPA (-Oct 1411)The History of the monastery at Soissons records that "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy" had "duas filias Mariam…et Philippam" from his first wife "filia Eduardi Angliæ regis"[225]Heiress of Morholm, Wirisdale.  She was styled Duchess of Ireland even after her divorce[226]A charter dated 24 Jul 1389 granted safe passage to le sire de Coucy de France...sa file et nostre cousyne Philippe la femme Robert de Veer n’adgairs Duc d’Irland” to come to England[227]m (5 Oct 1376 or before, repudiated, divorced 1387, divorce declared void 17 Oct 1389) as his first wife, ROBERT de Vere Earl of Oxford, son of THOMAS de Vere Earl of Oxford & his wife Maud de Ufford (16 Jan 1362-Louvain 1392, bur Louvain, transferred Nov 1395 to Earl's Colne).  He was created Marquess of Dublin for life 1 Dec 1385, and Duke of Ireland for life 13 Oct 1386. 

Enguerrand [VII] & his second wife had one child: 

iii)        ISABELLE (-1411)The History of the monastery at Soissons names "Isabellam adhuc infantulam" as the daughter of "Enguerandus dominus de Coucy…et consorte mea Isabelli de Lotharingia"[228]Ctss de Soissons 1408.  The marriage contract between “Philippe comte de Nevers et de Rethel et baron de Donzy” and “sa...cousine damoiselle Isabel de Coucy fille du feu sire de Coucy” is dated 6 Jan 1408[229]m (contract 6 Jan 1408, Soissons 23 Apr 1409) PHILIPPE de Bourgogne Comte de Nevers et de Rethel, son of PHILIPPE II "le Hardi" Duke of Burgundy & his wife Marguerite II Ctss of Flanders (Villaines-en-Duesmois Oct 1389-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415, bur Estelan near Rethel). 

b)         [JEANNE de Coucy .  Duchesne notes that “François l’Allouette luy attribue pour femme une des filles d’Enguerran seigneur de Coucy et de Catherine d’Autriche”, called “Jeanne de Coucy par quelques Memoires” [without specifying which], but comments that “je n’en ay point veu de tiltre[230].  The accuracy of this information cannot be guaranteed.  m as his first wife, CHARLES de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, son of JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, de Gandelus, de Troissy et de Marigny & his [second wife Isabelle de Montmorency] (-1401).] 

2.         JEAN (-[1354?]).  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail..." and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" (full details under Katharina of Austria, above)[231].  Seigneur d’Havraincourt (under the Sep 1347 agreement).  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...” who had “quatre fils et deux filles...Jean second fils de Guillaume” died childless and was succeeded by “Messire Raoul frere dudit Jean...iusques à Messire Aubert[232]

3.         RAOUL (-Dec 1389/1392]).  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail..." and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" (full details under Katharina of Austria, above)[233]Seigneur de Montmirail, de la Ferté-Gaucher, d’Havraincourt, d’Encre, de Bailleul et de Hornoy.  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...” who had “quatre fils et deux filles...Jean second fils de Guillaume” died childless and was succeeded by “Messire Raoul frere dudit Jean...iusques à Messire Aubert[234]Duchesne cites charters dated Jul 1369 and 9 Dec 1370 which name Raoul[235]A charter dated Dec 1389 records payments made by "Raoul de Coucy chevalier Seigneur de Montmirail en Brie" from revenue “luy...escheuë par le decés de sa seur Marie de Coucy Dame de Rommeny et de Chamigny[236].  He is named as deceased in the 1392 document cited below under his son Enguerrand.  m (before 24 Mar 1366) JEANNE d’Harcourt, daughter of JEAN [V] Comte d’Harcourt et d’Aumâle & his wife Blanche de Ponthieu Ctss d’Aumâle (La Saussaye 27 Sep 1358-1413 or after).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage (no source cited)[237].  "Blanche comtesse de Harcourt [...comtesse d’Aumâle et dame de Noyelle sur la mer] et Jean Comte de Harcourt beau frere du Roy Charles V son filz" agreed, with the consent of “Jaques et Philippe de Harcourt freres germains dudit comte...Raoul de Coucy, qui avoit espousé la fille de ladite comtesse”, not to sell certain lands by charter dated 16 Jan 1379[238]A charter dated Dec 1389 records payments made by "Raoul de Coucy chevalier Seigneur de Montmirail en Brie" from revenue “luy...escheuë par le decés de sa seur Marie de Coucy Dame de Rommeny et de Chamigny”, naming “Jeanne de Harcourt dame de Montmirail, femme dudit Raoul[239].  A charter dated 1413 names "Madame Jeanne de Harcourt et Messire Guillaume de Coucy chevalier son fils" and “Messire J. de Raineval chevalier fils et heritier de Madame Ysabel de Coucy sa mère n’aguere trespassée[240].  Raoul & his wife had seven children: 

a)         ENGUERRAND (-after 1396).  Seigneur de Montmirail, d’Encre et de Havraincourt.  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1392 records "Ingerrandus de Couciaco miles, et alii se dicentes heredes defuncti Radulfi de Couciaco militis[241].  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1396 records "Ingerranus de Couciaco miles dominus de Haurincuria[242]

b)         RAOUL (-17 Mar 1424, bur Noyon).  A register of the Parlement de Paris [undated?] records "Ioanna de Haricuria doaeria de Montemirabili et de Encra et...consiliarius noster Radulphus de Couciaco episcopus Metensis eius filius dominus proprietarius dictorum locorum[243].  Bishop of Noyon 1415.  Bishop of Metz 1424.  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1425 records "Ioannes de Mailliaco episcopus et comes Noviomensis” aganst “Blancham de Couciaco comitissam Rouciaci et Brenæ, ac dominam de Montemirabili, sororem et heredem defuncti Radulfi de Couciaco quondam eius fratris[244].  An epitaph at Noyon (Gaignières) records the burial of “Dominus Radulphus de Couciaco, dum adhuc viveret episcopus et comes Noviomensis nec non par Francia” who died 17 Mar 1424[245]

c)         GUILLAUME (-after 1412).  Seigneur de Montmirail.  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1412 records "Ioanna de Haricuria et Guillelmus de Couciaco miles eius filius, dominus de Montemirabili, necnon Ysabellis de Couciaco domina de Tronayo[246]A charter dated 1413 names "Madame Jeanne de Harcourt et Messire Guillaume de Coucy chevalier son fils" and “Messire J. de Raineval chevalier fils et heritier de Madame Ysabel de Coucy sa mère n’aguere trespassée”, not to sell certain lands by charter dated 16 Jan 1379[247]

d)         BLANCHE (-24 Feb, after 1431, bur Braine Saint-Yved)Duchesne records that Blanche de Coucy “bailla son denombremont au Roy pour la Seigneurie de Nanteuil” 12 Apr 1398[248]A charter dated 19 May 1412 records "Blanche de Coucy fille de feu Raoul de Coucy chevalier et veuve de Hue de Roussy chevalier, chambellan du Roy" selling property “aux executeurs du testament de Guy de Bray Maistre des Comptes du duc de Bourgongen à Dijon[249].  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1425 records "Ioannes de Mailliaco episcopus et comes Noviomensis” aganst “Blancham de Couciaco comitissam Rouciaci et Brenæ, ac dominam de Montemirabili, sororem et heredem defuncti Radulfi de Couciaco quondam eius fratris[250].  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved which records the burial of “Hue conte de Roucy et de Braynne” who died 25 Oct 1395 and of “Blanche de Coucy contesse desdiz lieux et feme dudit Monseigneur le conte” who died 24 Feb 1410 [year incorrect in view of the following document][251].  Duchesne records that in 1431 Blanche "Dame de Montmirail” donated property to “l’abbaye de la Grace sous Montmirail” (no source citation)[252]m HUGUES de Roucy Comte de Braine, son of SIMON de Roucy Comte de Braine & his wife Marie de Châtillon (-25 Oct 1395, Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Roucy 1391. 

e)         MARGUERITE (-after 1419)Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, the date of her marriage contract, and that she survived her husband[253]Duchesne records her marriage contract dated 2 Aug 1389 (no source citation)[254]m (contract 2 Aug 1389) GUY [III] de Nesle Seigneur d’Offemont et de Mello, son of JEAN [II] de Nesle Seigneur d’Offemont et de Mello & his wife Ada de Mailly Dame d’Acheu (-killed in battle Agicnourt 25 Oct 1415). 

f)          ANNE (-8 Oct 1413)An inscription in the church of Busignies records the burial of Gilles de Chin” who was killed in battle at Azincourt 25 Oct 1415 and of “Dame Anne de Couchy...de Harcourt par se mere” who died 8 Oct 1413[255].  She is not recorded by Duchesne.  m GILLES de Chin, son of --- (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415). 

g)         BLANCHE (-Apr ----, bur Soissons Notre-Dame).  Nun: an epitaph at Notre-Dame de Soissons records the burial of “dame Blanche de Coucy nonnain et revestiaire de l’église de Seans...fille de feu Mre --- de Made Jeanne de Harcourt” who died -- Apr ----[256].  The explanation for her parents having a second daughter named Blanche has not been found, unless the name in the epitaph was an error. 

4.         AUBERT (-20 Sep 1400, bur Nogent).  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail..." and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" (full details under Katharina of Austria, above)[257].  Seigneur de Dronay.  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...” who had “quatre fils et deux filles...Jean second fils de Guillaume” died childless and was succeeded by “Messire Raoul frere dudit Jean...iusques à Messire Aubert[258].  Duchesne records sources dated 1387 and 1388 which name Aubert[259].  An epitaph at Nogent records the burial of “Monsieur Aubert de Coucy, jadis sire de Trouvay” who died 20 Sep 1400[260]m (before 1365) as her second husband, JEANNE de Villesavoir Dame de Droisy, widow of --- de Vailly, daughter of --- (-1385, bur Nogent).  Duchesne records Aubert’s marriage with “Jeanne de Villesavoir Dame de Droisy” who by an earlier marriage had “un fils en bas âge appellé Louys de Vailly[261].  Registers of the Parlement record in 1365 a claim by “Gobertus dominus de Bova, dominus Baudouinus de Bova, milites, fratres, executores testamenti defunctæ dominæ Mariæ de Bova quondam dominæ de Taulete” against “dominum Aubertum de Couciaco militem ad causam dominæ Ioannæ de Villesavoir eius uxoris[262].  “Aubertus de Coucy Sires de Dronay comme bail de Louys de Vailly filz de Jeanne de Villesavoir sa femme” issued a proxy relating to “la terre de Montigny saincte Felize” dated 1372[263].  An epitaph at Nogent records the burial of “Jehanne de Villesavoir, jadis femme de Monsieur Aubert de Coucy” who died 1385[264].  Aubert & his wife had two children: 

a)         MARIE (-after 1405).  Registers of the Parlement record in 1396 a claim by “Albertus de Couciaco miles” against “Thomam de Insula militem dominus de Fraxinis suo nomine et ad causam uxoris suæ ballum habentem heredis Egidii militis quondam domini de Mailliaco”, the latter having contracted marriage with “Maria de Couciaco filia Alberti et Ioannæ de Villesavoir dominæ de Dronay eius uxoris[265].  Duchesne records her second marriage, noting that her second husband “à cause d’elle avoüa tenir certaine Terre et Seigneurie à Droisy de Jean de Roye Seigneur de Muret son cousin” by charter dated 1391[266].  Her third marriage is confirmed by a document dated 1399 which records a claim by “Petrus de Trimolia scutifer” against “Robertum de Bethuna vicecomitem Meldensem, Colardum de Cressonsart dominum de Mailliaco, Theobaldum de Suessione dominum de Morolio, milites, dominam de Morolio matrem dicti Theobaldi, necnon Ioannem de Lissac scutiferum et Mariam de Couciaco eius uxorem[267].  A register dated 1400 names “Ioannes de Lisac et Maria de Couciaco eius ad præsens, et antea defuncti Egidii domini de Mailliaco uxor[268].  A register dated 1405 names “Maria de Couciaco domina de Droisiaco[269]: the absence of her husband in this document suggests that he was deceased at the time.  m firstly GILLES Seigneur de Mailly, son of JEAN Seigneur de Mailly & his wife --- (-before 1391).  Duchesne records his parentage and names his sister “Agnes de Mailly conjointe avec Thomas de Lille chevalier Seigneur de Fresnes” [see the 1396 source cited above][270]m secondly GAUCHER de Châtillon Seigneur du Buisson, son of --- (-before 1399).  m thirdly (before 1399) JEAN de Lissac, son of --- (-[1400/05?]). 

b)         ISABELLE (-1413)Raineval (Raoul Seigneur de) chevalier et dame Ysabelle de Guines-Coucy sa femme fille d’Aubert de Guines-Coucy chevalier” sold property “que ledit Aubert leur avoit cédée en mariage” to the king by charter dated Feb 1387 (O.S:?)[271]Rayneval (Ysabelle de Conty dame de) et du [Cordonnoy] veuve de feu noble…Raoul Seigr de Rayneval…mere et tutrice de Jean de Rayneval son filsswore homage to the king for son château de Péronne la terre et seigneurie de Froismantel” by charter dated 20 Sep 1398[272]A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1412 records "Ioanna de Haricuria et Guillelmus de Couciaco miles eius filius, dominus de Montemirabili, necnon Ysabellis de Couciaco domina de Tronayo[273].  “Raineval (madame veuve de feu monseigneur de)...la tutelle de Jean et Aubert de Raineval freres enfans d’elle et dudit feu Seigr de Raineval” issued a charter dated Sep 1399[274].  Dame de Dronay.  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1412 records "Ioanna de Haricuria et Guillelmus de Couciaco miles eius filius, dominus de Montemirabili, necnon Ysabellis de Couciaco domina de Tronayo[275]A register of pleadings at the Parlement dated 1413 records a lawsuit between Madame Jeanne de Harcourt et Messire Guillaume de Coucy chevalier son fils” and “Messire J. de Raineval chevalier fils et heritier de Madame Ysabel de Coucy sa mere n’aguere trespassée[276]m (before Feb [1387/88]) as his third wife, RAOUL de Raineval Seigneur de Raineval et de Pierrepont, son of GUILLAUME Seigneur de Raineval & his wife Ada Dame de Fouilloy (-1393)

5.         JEANNE (-6 Jul 1379, bur Soissons Notre-Dame).  Nun: an epitaph at Notre-Dame de Soissons records the burial of “damoiselle Jehane de Coucy nonain et dame de lostelerie de ceste eglise fille Mos. Guille seingneur de Coucy et de Madame Isabel de Saint Pol” who died 6 Jul 1379[277].  Her absence from the Sep 1347 document which names her brothers and sisters suggests that she entered religion before that date. 

6.         MARIE (-before Dec 1389).  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail..." and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" (full details under Katharina of Austria, above)[278]A charter dated Dec 1389 records payments made by "Raoul de Coucy chevalier Seigneur de Montmirail en Brie" from revenue “luy...escheuë par le decés de sa seur Marie de Coucy Dame de Rommeny et de Chamigny[279]

7.         ISABELLE (-after Sep 1347).  Letters dated Sep 1347 record an agreement between "Catherine d’Austeriche Dame de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail..." and "Iehan, Raoul, Aubert, Marie et Ysabel de Coucy, freres et seurs" (full details under Katharina of Austria, above)[280]

 

 

 

E.      SEIGNEURS de CRECY-sur-SERRE

 

 

Crécy-sur-Seine is a village lying about 15 kilometres due north of Laon, and about the same distance south-west of Marle, in the present-day French département of Aisne.  Crécy-sur-Serre was inherited by the family of the comtes d’Amiens, who also held the seigneuries of Coucy and Marle. 

 

 

1.         GUY de Crécy .  Seigneur de Crécy-sur-Serrem ---.  The name of Guy’s wife is not known.  Guy & his wife had one child: 

a)         MELISENDE de Crécy (-after 1147)The Annales Lobienses name "de terra Ambianensi…Milesendem" as wife of "Thomam de Marla" after he repudiated his first wife[281]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the second wife of "Thomas de Coci" as "domna de Bovis"[282].  Tardif records Thomas’s third marriage with "Milesende de Crécy, héritière de Guy seigneur de Crécy-sur-Serre", adding that her dowry was "les deux châteaux de Crécy et de Nouvion-l’Abbesse, dépendant tous deux de l’abbaye de Saint-Jean de Laon" (no primary source cited which provides the basis for the statement)[283].  A charter dated 16 Apr 1131 records the restoration of “Erlons et manso sancti Lamberti” to Laon Saint-Vincent, subscribed by “Gerardi vicedomini, Nicholai castellani...domine Milesendis, Ingelranni filii eius...[284]m as his third wife, THOMAS [I] Comte d´Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, son of ENGUERRAND [I] Comte d´Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy et de Boves & his wife Ada de Marle [Roucy] ([1070/75]-[1130/31])

 

 

 

F.      SEIGNEURS de MARLE

 

 

The small town of Marle lies about 25 kilometres north-north-east of Laon, and about 15 kilometres south-west of Vervins, in the present-day French département of Aisne.  In the early 11th century, Marle was held by Létaud, a younger brother of Ebles Comte de Roucy who was elected archbishop of Reims in 1021.  Létaud´s daughter brought Marle to the family of the comtes d’Amiens.  Thereafter the seigneurie de Marle was linked to the seigneurie de Coucy. 

 

 

LETAUD de Marle, son of [GISELBERT Comte [de Roucy] & his wife ---] .  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[285]

m MATHILDE, daughter of ---.  Elinand Bishop of Laon donations made by "Albricus de Cociaco castro…cum uxore sua Adela et matre eius Malthilde" by charter dated 3 Nov 1059[286].  [Heiress of Coucy]: assuming that it is correct, as speculated below, that her daughter Ada de Marle was [vicomtesse] de Coucy in her own right, it is possible that the property was inherited from her mother as no record has been found of it belonging to the family of Ada’s father. 

Létaud & his wife had one child: 

1.         ADA de Marle .  Elinand Bishop of Laon donations made by "Albricus de Cociaco castro…cum uxore sua Adela et matre eius Malthilde" by charter dated 3 Nov 1059[287]Her parentage and second marriage are indicated by the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "Letaldus de Marla…filiam nomine Adam" as mother of "Thomam de Marla"[288], read together with the sources which indicate that Thomas was the son of Enguerrand [I] de Bove Comte d’Amiens.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "filia…Letardi domni de Marla…Ada" as mother of "Thomam de Cocy"[289].  It is assumed that "Adela" in the first source is the same person as "Ada" in the second and third sources, but this is not beyond all doubt.  [Heiress of Coucy]: as Coucy passed from her first husband to her second husband, it is supposed that Ada was heiress of Coucy, although no primary source has yet been identified which confirms that this speculation is correct.  m firstly (divorced 1059) AUBRY [de Beaumont-sur-Oise] Vicomte de Coucy, son of [IVES [I] Comte de Beaumont & his wife Emma ---] (-before 1095).  m secondly (repudiated) as his first wife, ENGUERRAND [I] Comte d’Amiens Seigneur de Boves et de Coucy, son of DREUX Seigneur de Boves & his wife --- (-[1117]). 

 

 

 

G.      VICOMTES de MEAUX

 

 

ENGUERRAND de Coucy, son of ENGUERRAND [V] Seigneur de Coucy [Guines] & his wife Christian de Lindsay (-1344)The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) names "li aisnez…Guillaume, li second Enguerrant, ly tiers Baudouyn et li quart Robert" as the "cinq filz, dont...quatre tous vivans quand ce Livre fut fait" of "Enguerrant", second son of "[le] conte Ernoul de Guignes" and his wife[290]Vicomte de Meaux.  Seigneur de Condé-en-Brie, de la Ferté-Ancoul, et d’Autrèches.  The register of pleadings before the Parlement de Paris records that "le xxiiii [date?] Messire Enguerran de Coucy l’ayol" had “deux fils, Guillaume aisné...Seigneur de Coucy, d’Oisy et de Montmirail...le second fils dudit Enguerran l’ayol fu Enguerrand[291]

m firstly (before 1324) as her second husband, MARIA von Vianden, widow of GUILLAUME de Flandre, daughter of PHILIPP von Vianden Heer van Rumpst & his wife Marie de Cernay.  Butkens records her parentage, naming her "Dame de Rumst, Hoboken, Eeckeren, Ingen, Willebrouck, Ruysbroek, Haesbrouck, Boom", and her two marriages (no source cited)[292].  The primary sources which confirm this information have not been identified, although her parentage and first marriage are indicated by the following document.  Marie van Vianen vrouwe van Denremonde ende van Hoboken” sealed a charter dated 1325[293]

m secondly (before 1343) as her third husband, ALLEMANDE Flotte de Revel, widow firstly ARMAND de Polignac Seigneur de Bouzols, and secondly of EUSTACHE [V] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil, daughter of GUILLAUME Flotte Seigneur de Revel & his first wife Héloise de Mello (-1371).  She married fourthly as his second wife, Gaucher [VIII] de Châtillon Seigneur de ChâtillonA judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[294]

Enguerrand & his first wife had three children: 

1.         PHILIPPE (-[30 Dec 1345/1350]).  He succeeded his father in 1344 as Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Condé, de la Ferté-Ancoul, de Tresmes et de Rumpst.  A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[295]m (before 1344) as her first husband, JEANNE le Flamenc, daughter of RAOUL le Flamenc Seigneur de Canny & his wife --- (-before 12 Mar 1361).  Duchesne notes the marriage of Philippe de Coucy Vicomte de Meaux and “Jeanne de Canny fille de Raoul Flament Seigneur de Canny” recorded in letters dated 1344 and 1347 “gardées aux archives du chasteau de Varennes”, as well as her second marriage to “un chevalier...Jena de Preaux, dont n’estoit procedée qu’une fille[296].  Her parentage and two marriages are also recorded in the marriage contract of her daughter Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.?).  She married secondly Jean de PréauxMargry reverses the order of her marriages without explaining the basis for his assessment[297]Philippe & his wife had [three] children: 

a)         [ISABELLE de Coucy (-1368).  This person appears to have been invented by Duchesne.  He states that Jean de Chastillon II Seigneur de Chastillon, de la Ferté en Ponthieu...encore pour lors jeune escuyer” married “Ysabeau de Coucy Vicomtesse de Meaux, qu’aucuns memoires appellent Jeanne de Guines” whom he calls her father’s oldest daughter, adding that she died childless in 1368[298].  He refers to Isabelle’s supposed testament, naming her executors[299].  However, Duchesne’s list of executors are the same recorded as executors of [Isabelle’s sister] Jeanne de Coucy, recorded as Jean’s wife in a judgment dated 16 Nov 1368[300].  Duchesne cites no other source which confirms Isabelle’s existence, which appears disproved by Jeanne’s 12 Mar 1360  marriage contract quoted below which names Eléonore as her only sister.  m [as his first wife,] JEAN Seigneur de Châtillon, son of GAUCHER [VIII] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Seigneur de Châtillon, de Troissy et de la Ferté-en-Ponthieu & his second wife Allemande de Revel (-1416).] 

b)         ELEONORE (-1371).  She succeeded her father as Vicomtesse de Meaux.  Her marriage is recorded in the marriage contract of her sister Jeanne dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.).  A parliamentary register dated 16 Aug 1369 refers to the claim by "Galcherum de Castellione armigerum et Mariam de Castellione domicellam eius sororem” against “Matheum dominum de Ligne militem...ad causam uxoris suæ heredum defunctæ Ioannæ de Couciaco domicellæ quodnam vicecomitissa Meldensis[301]Robert de Bethune Vicomte de Miaulx et Sires de Venduel Chevaliers” and “Iehans de Ligne Escuyers, qui avoient deux seurs espousées filles de...Iehan Seigneur de Barbenchon et...Yolens de Lens sa...compaigne” agreed the succession of “feu...Michel iadis Signeur de Ligne et...Alienor de Couchy Dame de Ligne et Vicontesse de Miaux”, by letters dated Oct 1387[302]m (before 12 Mar [1360/61]) MICHEL [II] Seigneur de Ligne, son of MICHEL [I] Seigneur de Ligne & his wife --- (-[1385/27 Mar 1387]). 

c)         JEANNE (-before Nov 1368).  Heiress of Condé-en-Brie, Ferté-Ancoul and Tresmes.  The marriage contract of “Gauchier de Chastillon Sire de la Ferté en Pontiu...pour...Iehan de Chastillon escuyer nostre filz” and “Flamens Sire de Canny chevaliers...pour...damoiselle Iehanne de Coussy fille iadis de feu Monsieur Philippe de Coucy iadis Viconte de Meaulx et de feu Iehanne de Canni nostre fille iadis sa fame” is dated 12 Mar 1360 (O.S.?), records the marriage of “le seigneur de Ligne et sa fame seur germaine de ladite damoiselle” and provided for “la fille de messire Iehan de Preaulx et d’icelle nostre fille, seur de par mere de la fame dudit Sire de Ligne et de ladite damoiselle Iehanne[303]A judgment dated 16 Nov 1368 relates to the testament of "defuncta Ioanna de Couciaco domicella vicecomitissa Meldensis uxor...Ioannis de Castellione scutiferi” and a claim by “Galchero de Castellione scutifero et domicella Ioannæ de Castellione eius sorors” against her executors “Ioannem de Castellione eius maritum...Galcherum dominum de Castellione, Galcherum de Castellione dominum de Dours, Radulfum Flamingi dominum de Canni...[304]m (contract 12 Mar [1360/61]) as his first wife, JEAN Seigneur de Châtillon, son of GAUCHER [VIII] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Seigneur de Châtillon, de Troissy et de la Ferté-en-Ponthieu & his second wife Allemande de Revel (-1416). 

2.         MARIE (-after Dec 1355)A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[305].  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  Duchesne records a charter dated early Dec 1355 under which she, acting on her own behalf and as guardian of her children, reached agreement with the bishop of Laon[306]m GAUCHER de Châtillon Vidame de Laon, Seigneur de Rozoy et de Clacy, son of HUGUES de Châtillon Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thiérache, de Pontarcy, et de Clacy, Vidame de Laon & his wife Marie de Clacy (-[1355]). 

3.         JEANNE (-Jan 1363)A judgment dated 30 Dec 1345 relates to a claim by "Galcherum de Castellione militem dominum de Feritate in Pontivo et Alamandam de Revello eius uxorem” against “Philippum de Couciaco, Mariam et Ioannam eius sorores” relating to the succession of “defunctus Ingerrannus de Couciaco vicecomes Meldensis quondam maritus dictæ Alamandæ[307]A manuscript which records properties of [her husband] lists her properties “le quart de la terre de Condé en Brie...la terre d’Autresche...les bois de Hauraincourt...la terre des Cornés...la terre de Bussu et du Vergie[308]A parliamentary register dated 30 Jan 1403 records a claim by "messire Iean de Bethune” against “le Vicomte de Meauls son frere" who stated that they were “freres germains de Messire I. de Bethune et Dame I. de Coucy conoints” who had nine children “in brevi tempore[309].  A court judgment dated 11 Apr 1407 relates to the claim by "Ioannem de Bethuna dictum de Locres militem” against “Robertum de Bethuna eius germanum militem vicecomitem Meld.", stating that “defunctus Ioannes de Bethuna miles dominus de Vendolio” married “Ioanna de Couciaco” in 1351, that of their nine sons Robert was the oldest and Jean the seventh[310]m (1351) JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Vendeuil, son of GUILLAUME [IV] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne & his wife Marie de Roye Dame de Vendeuil (-Jan 1373).  Jean de Béthune & his wife had children: 

a)         ROBERT de Béthune (-Feb 1408).  He succeeded his maternal first cousin in 1371 as Vicomte de Meaux.  He succeeded his father in 1373 as Seigneur de Vendeuil. 

-        see below

b)         other children: see BETHUNE

 

 

The Vicomté de Meaux was inherited by the Béthune family, passed by marriage to a younger branch of the family of the Ducs de Bar, and by a later marriage was incorporated into the properties of the Luxembourg family.  An outline of the descent is as follows (full details of these persons are given in the corresponding hyperlinked documents):

 

ROBERT de Béthune, son of JEAN de Béthune Seigneur de Vendeuil & his wife Jeanne de Coucy (-Feb 1408).  He succeeded his maternal first cousin in 1371 as Vicomte de Meaux.  He succeeded his father in 1373 as Seigneur de Vendeuil. 

1.         JEANNE de Béthune, daughter of ROBERT de Béthune Vicomte de Meaux, Seigneur de Vendeuil & his third wife Isabelle van Gistel (-end 1450)She succeeded her father in 1408 as Vicomtesse de MeauxDame de Vendeuil, de Condé-en-Brie, de Ghistelles, de Falvy et de Rumpstm firstly (contract 16 Feb 1409) ROBERT de Bar, son of HENRI de Bar & his wife Marie de Coucy ([1390]-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415).  He was created Comte de Marle, Comte de Soissons et Seigneur d'Oisy in France Aug 1413.  Robert de Bar & his wife had one child: 

a)         JEANNE de Bar, daughter of ROBERT de Bar Comte de Marle et de Soissons & his wife Jeanne de Bethune Vicomtesse de Meaux (1415-14 May 1462).  She succeeded her father as Ctss de Marle et de Soissons.  She succeeded her mother as Vicomtesse de Meauxm (château de Bohain 16 Jul 1435) LOUIS de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol, de Brienne, de Ligny et de Conversano, son of PIERRE de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol & his wife Margherita del Balzo (1418-beheaded Paris 19 Dec 1475).

 

 

 

H.      SEIGNEURS de PINON

 

 

Pinon is located about 10 kilometres south-west of Laon. 

 

 

ROBERT de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-after Mar 1234).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[311].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[312].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed the dowry of his mother "et villam meam ad sui ædificationem Pinon" to "Roberto"[313]Seigneur de Pinon.  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[314].  "Robertus de Cociaco dominus de Pinon et…uxor mea Elizabeth" granted rights to Pinon, with the consent of "fratrum meorum Ingelramni domini Marlæ et Thomæ domini de Veruino", by charter dated May 1213[315].  “Ing. de Cociaco” declared that “frater meus Robertus” held “terram suam de Maruel” from Blanche comtesse de Champagne by charter dated May 1213[316]

m firstly (before 1213) ELISABETH de Pierrepont, daughter of ROBERT de Pierrepont Comte de Roucy & his wife Eustache Ctss de Roucy.  "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[317].  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.  "Robertus de Cociaco dominus de Pinon et…uxor mea Elizabeth" granted rights to Pinon, with the consent of "fratrum meorum Ingelramni domini Marlæ et Thomæ domini de Veruino", by charter dated May 1213[318]

m secondly (before 1219) as her second husband, GODE --- Dame de Raineval, widow of --- de Préaux, daughter of --- (-after Mar 1234).  "Godde dame de Raineval femme de Robert de Coucy seigneur de Pinon" donated property to Saint-Fuscian lés Amiens, with the consent of "Jean, Florent, Willaume, Raoul et Simon ses enfants", by charter dated 1219[319].  "Ioannis de Pratellis militis domini de Reneval" donated property to Amiens cathedral, with the consent of "nobilis dominæ Godæ matris suæ", by charter dated Mar 1234[320]Europäische Stammtafeln records that Robert de Coucy had descendants extinct in the male line 1377[321].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Robers...de Pignon" married “madame Godde de --- si ot de luy un fils...Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and married “Marguerite seur monsieur Nicole de Morlaines” and had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “le fils...Robers” married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans”, that “l’une des filles...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme” and that “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[322].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Raoul de Couchi...tierch fil...Robiers" married “la fille le seignour de Praiaus...Gode” [parentage inconsistent with the Lignages de Coucy] who “ot de li un fil...Jehans” who married “la fille le tonnier de Biauvais, si ot de li un fil...Robers[323]

Robert & his [first/second] wife had one child: 

1.         SOPHIE de Pinon .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Rogerus", son of "Aelidis secunda filia...[Jacobus]" and "domino Rogero de Rosoy", married firstly “filiam domini Roberti de Couchi[324]m as his first wife, ROGER de Rozoy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Rozoy & his wife Alix d’Avesnes (-killed in battle Fariskur 6 Apr 1250).

Robert & his second wife had [one child]: 

2.         [JEAN [de Coucy] (-after 1268).  Seigneur de Pinon.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names Jean as son of Robert ("Raoul de Couchi...tierch fil") by his wife Gode[325].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” as the son of "Robers...de Pignon" and his second wife “madame Godde[326].  The difficulty with these two statements is that Gode, second wife of Robert de Coucy, is recorded elsewhere with a son by her first husband named Jean (de Préaux, seigneur de Raineval) who was alive in Mar 1234 (see NORMANDY NOBILITY-AVRANCHES, BAYEUX, COTENTIN).  Gode was married to Robert before 1219, as noted above.  If her son Jean de Préaux died soon after 1234, it is unlikely that she gave birth to a son, also named Jean, nearly twenty years after her marriage.  The solutions seem to be that (1) Gode had two sons named Jean or (2) Jean Seigneur de Pinon was the same person as Jean de Préaux Seigneur de Raineval, although it would be unusual for Pinon to have been transmitted by Robert de Coucy to his stepson.  Gallia Christiana records that “Johanne de Coucy domino de Pinon” agreed a settlement [of unspecified disputes] with Guillaume abbot of Saint-Ghislain by charter dated 1268[327]m MARGUERITE de Morlaines, daughter of NICOLAS Seigneur de Morlaines tonloyer de Beauvais & his wife ---.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes record that Jean, son of Robert de Coucy, married “la fille le tonnier de Biauvais, si ot de li un fil...Robers[328].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” married “Marguerite seur monsieur Nicole de Morlaines” and had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “le fils...Robers” married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans”, that “l’une des filles...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme” and that “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[329].  Jean & his wife had three children: 

a)         ROBERT de Pinon .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes record that Jean, son of Robert de Coucy, married “la fille le tonnier de Biauvais, si ot de li un fil...Robers[330]Seigneur de Pinon.  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “le fils...Robers” married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans”, that “l’une des filles...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme” and that “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[331]m --- de Perreumont [Pierremont?], daughter of ---.  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “Robers”, son of “Iehan...de Pignon” and his wife, married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans[332].  Robert & his wife had [three or more] children: 

i)          children .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, that “Robers”, son of “Iehan...de Pignon” and his wife, married “l’hoir de Perreumont” and had “plusieurs enfans[333]

b)         --- de Pinon .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, and that “l’une des filles” married “au sieur de Bailleux qui en ot un fils...Jehan...[qui] mourut sans hoirs de son corps...et une fille que le sire d’Argilliers ot à femme[334]m --- Seigneur de Bailleux, son of ---. 

c)         MARIE de Pinon (-after Aug 1298).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that “Iehan qui fut sires de Pignon apres son pere” and his wife had “un fils et plusieurs filles”, of which “la seconde fille...Jehan sieur de Pignon” married “au sieur de Ballaimmont en Henault[335].  “Gilles sires de Berlainmont chevaliers” granted “[le] chastiel de Fain” as dower to “Marie de Pinon dame de Berlainmont se fame” by charter dated 1288[336].  The assignment of dower suggests that the marriage was of recent date and that Marie was her husband’s second wife.  Guy Count of Flanders granted a hereditary fief to Gillion signeur de Berlenmont”, and “se lidis sires de Berlenmont a hoir de Marie de Pinon dame de Berlenmont se femme” to be inherited by them, by charter dated Aug 1298[337]m (before 1288) as his second wife, GILLES [VII] Seigneur de Berlaimont, son of --- (-after Feb 1308). 

 

 

The primary source which confirms the parentage of the following person has not been identified. 

 

1.         ISABELLE de Coucy (-after 1365).  Dame de Paillart et de Tartigny: Père Anselme records her family origin (“fille de N--- de Coucy, seigneur de Pinon”) and marriage, noting that she was guardian of her minor children (no sources cited)[338]The register of judgments of the Parlement de Paris records 1365 "Ioannes et Ioanna de Claromonte filii defuncti Radulphi de Claromonte quondam militis, et Ysabellis de Couciaco quondam eius uxoris" and “Ysabella de Couciaco domina de Paillardo, relicta defuncti Radulphi de Claromonte, Ioannes et Ioanna de Claromonte eius liberi, maiores annis[339]m RAOUL de Clermont, son of RAOUL de Clermont Seigneur de Montgobert & his wife Jeanne de Chambly Dame de Montgobert (-before 9 Jan 1354). 

 

 

Two siblings.  The reference to “Pierremont” suggests that they were descended from Robert de Pinon and his wife “--- de Perreumont” (see above).  The primary sources which confirm this descent have not been identified. 

 

1.         ROBERT de Pinon (-1377)Seigneur de Pinon.  Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse: Duchesne cites a charter dated 1367 in which he is named as Seigneur de Nanteuil[340]m (1367 or before) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Roucy, widow of GAUCHER [V] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse et de Drony, daughter of SIMON de Roucy Comte de Braine & his wife Marie de Châtillon (-Mar 1384, bur Mont-Saint-Quentin or Péronne Saint-Foursy).  She married thirdly Hugues de ClaryDuchesne records her parentage and three marriages, noting her death in Mar 1384, the death of her third husband in Sep 1385, and the burial of both “en l’abbaye de Mont Sainct Quentin[341]An epitaph at Péronne Saint-Foursy records the burial of “Hues sire de Clary et de Perrumont, jadis chevalier, chambelene du Roy” who died Sep 1385 and of “Margueritte de Roussy, jadis dame de Clary et de Nantitel sa femme” who died 1380 [error of year?][342]

2.         JEANNE de Pinon (-after 1385).  Duchesne names “Jeanne de Coucy” as sister of Robert de Pinon and records her marriage[343].  Duchesne cites “un arrest” dated 1385 which records the marriage of the couple’s daughter “Jeanne de Ponthieu” with “Dreux Seigneur de Creuecœur” to whom she brought “la Chatellenie de Pinon, les villes de Baigneux et de Honcourt, la terre de Nanteuil la Fosse” as well as the rights of her mother “de Nanteuil en la montagne pres de Rheims” which were held “autrefois à Robert de Coucy Seigneur de Pinon son frère[344]m GUILLAUME de Ponthieu Seigneur de Mantenay, son of ---.  Seigneur de Pinon et de Pierremont, de iure uxorisHe was descended from Guy de Ponthieu (died [1205/Nov 1218]), younger son of Guy [II] Comte de Ponthieu & his wife Ida ---[345].  

 

 

 

I.        SEIGNEURS de VERVINS (COUCY)

 

 

Vervins is located about 15 kilometres north-east of Marle, 20 kilometres north-west of Rozoy-sur-Serre, in the present-day French département of Aisne, arrondissement Vervins, canton Vervins. 

 

 

THOMAS de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-[1252/53]).  The 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d’Angleterre names "Engherrans de Couci…si doi frère Thumas et Robiers"[346].  "Radulfus dominus Cochiaci" donated property to Mont Saint-Martin, with the consent of "uxore mea Adelide et liberis meis Ingelranno, Thoma, Radulph, Roberto", by charter dated 1187[347].  The testament of "Radulphus dominus Couciaci" on the point of leaving on a journey, dated 1190, bequeathed "Veruinum, Fontanas et Landousies" to "filius meus Thomas"[348]Seigneur de Vervins.  "Engelrannus de Couciaco comes Perticensis" confirmed donations to Thenailles abbey made by "Radulphi patris nostri", with the consent of "uxoris nostræ comitissæ de Pertico et fratrum nostrorum Thomæ iam militis et Roberti", by charter dated 1205[349].  "Thomas de Cociaco Vervini dominus" granted "homines de Tria et de Charmentrei" rights "super…terra quæ ex parte Mathildis uxoris meæ de dono Hugonis comitis Regetensis ad me devenit" by charter dated Dec 1212[350].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” swore allegiance to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “quicquid habeo apud Triam le Bardol et apud Charmentre”, except his obligations to “domini Ingelranni fratris mei”, by charter dated Aug 1215[351].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini et Mathildis uxor eius” issued a charter dated Sep 1223 under the guarantee of “domini sui Theobaldi, Campaniæ et Briæ comitis palatini[352].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” acknowledged that “dominus meus Hugo Regitestensis comes ac domina mea uxor eius Felicitas, de assensu Hugonis primogeniti eorundem” had granted “vineas, domos...apud Sezannam” to “Mathildi uxori mee filie eorundem” by charter dated Dec 1224[353]

m (before Dec 1224) MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES Comte de Rethel & his wife Félicité de Broyes (-[1 Jul 1259/19 Jun 1268]).  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated Dec 1224 under which "Thomas de Coucy seigneur de Vervins" acknowledged "Hugues comte de Rethel et Félicité sa femme" had granted property at Sézanne to "leur fille Mathilde, femme dudit Thomas", with the consent of "Hugues leur fils ainé"[354].  Dame de Trie-le-Bardoul et de Charmentré.  "Thomas de Cociaco Vervini dominus" granted "homines de Tria et de Charmentrei" rights "super…terra quæ ex parte Mathildis uxoris meæ de dono Hugonis comitis Regetensis ad me devenit" by charter dated Dec 1212[355].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini et Mathildis uxor eius” issued a charter dated Sep 1223 under the guarantee of “domini sui Theobaldi, Campaniæ et Briæ comitis palatini[356].  “Thomas de Cociaco dominus Vervini” acknowledged that “dominus meus Hugo Regitestensis comes ac domina mea uxor eius Felicitas, de assensu Hugonis primogeniti eorundem” had granted “vineas, domos...apud Sezannam” to “Mathildi uxori mee filie eorundem” by charter dated Dec 1224[357].  "Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins et Mahaud sa femme" transferred their rights in "l’héritage de leur niece, la fille du comte Hugues" to "leur frère Jean comte de Rethel"[358].  "Mahaud dame de Vervins et Thomas de Coucy son fils sire de Vervins" donated "Montigny dalès Poys" to "Gaucher comte de Rethel" by charter dated Oct 1255[359].  She is named in the extract of the May 1259 charter of her daughter Agnes, cited below, in which she is not “feue” in contrast to her husband, presumably indicating that she was alive at that date. 

Thomas & his wife had five children: 

1.         THOMAS de Coucy (-before 1276)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "Thomas" as the son of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest"[360].  "Mahaud dame de Vervins et Thomas de Coucy son fils sire de Vervins" donated "Montigny dalès Poys" to "Gaucher comte de Rethel" by charter dated Oct 1255[361]Seigneur de Vervins et de Fontaines.  “Th....rois de Navarre, de Champaigne et de Brie, cuens palatins” arbitrated a dispute between “Manissier conte de Rethest” and “Thomas de Coucy chevalier seigneur de Vervin”, relating to “une fort maison en liu...Chastillon deseur Boulesicourt” built by the latter and a warranty given by “Gauchiers ses freres jadis cuens de Rethest” to “Mahault jadis dame de Vervin mere audit Thomas”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1268[362]m firstly ELISABETH de Looz, daughter of ARNOLD [IV] Comte de Looz & his wife Jeanne de Chiny (-before 1251).  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Thomas", son of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", married "Ysabellam filiam comitis Losensis Arnulphi", who died childless[363]m secondly ([1249/Jun 1251]) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Piquigny, widow of NICOLAS [VI] de Rumigny, daughter of GERARD de Piquigny Vidame d'Amiens & his first wife Laure de Montfort (-after 1257).  The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Thomas", son of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", married secondly "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam"[364].  "Thomas de Cociaco junior miles et Margarita filia vice-domini de Piqueniaco uxor eius" granted privileges to Vaux de Cernay by charter dated Jun 1251[365].  The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified.  Thomas & his second wife had three children: 

a)         THOMAS de Coucy (-[Sep/Oct] 1285 or after)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "primogenitus Thomas", son of "Thomas" and his second wife "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam"[366].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name "li aisnez des fils...Thomas" as son of “Thomas...de Veruin” and his wife, adding that he died “au revenir d’Arragon[367].  The last statement presumably refers to the invasion by Philippe III King of France of Aragon in 1285.  Seigneur de Vervinsm ISABELLE [Aleide] d'Enghien, daughter of GERARD d'Enghien Heer van Zotteghem & his wife --- de Viane.  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "primogenita domini Gerardi de Sottenghen" married "domino Thomæ de Couchi, domino de Wervino"[368], another passage in the same source naming her "Aelidem"[369].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "li aisnez des fils...Thomas", son of “Thomas...de Veruin”, married “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” and had two sons and one daughter[370].  Thomas & his wife had three children: 

i)          THOMAS de Coucy (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Thomas" and his wife “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” had “deux fils et une fille” and that the older son “Thomas” died “en la bataille de Courtray[371].  Seigneur de Vervins.  Duchesne states that Thomas "ne laissa point de lignée"[372]

ii)         JEAN de Coucy (-after 1303).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Thomas" and his wife “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” had “deux fils et une fille” and that the younger son “Iehan tenoit la terre de Vervin quand ce livre fut faits[373].  Seigneur de Vervins.  Duchesne states that Jean "continua la postérité de l’ancien nom de Coucy" which he could not trace “faute de preuves certaines[374]

iii)        daughter .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Thomas" and his wife “la fille du sieur de Sotenguien” had “deux fils et une fille[375]

b)         JEAN de Coucy ([1255/60?]-after Jun 1293, maybe after 1303)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "secundus…Ioannes", son of "Thomas" and his second wife "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam"[376].  The wording of the Jun 1293 charter quoted below under his daughter Marguerite suggests that Jean was alive at that date.  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name "Iehan" as the second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier[377].  It is uncertain from the text of this document whether Jean was still living when it was written.  m ([1275/78]?) as her second husband, CATHERINE ---, widow of RION de Toureste [Thourotte?] Seigneur du Châtelet, daughter of [--- de Trazegnies & his wife --- de Saint-Loup au Bois] ([1255/60]-before Jun 1293).  Her parentage and family ancestry is suggested by the sources which indicate her inheritance of part of the Florenville fiefs from the Trazegnies family, as well as Saint-Loup au Bois, as explained in the document HAINAUT.  Catherine’s first marriage is indicated by the following document: Rions de Toureste chevaliers sieres don [dou] Chasteleiz et don [dou] Sainct Lieu, de Saincte Seziele, de Fonteneles, de Chassepiers et...Katherine sa femme dame de ce mesme lieu” freed “la ville de Chassepier...à la loy de Beaulmont...c’est à dire Chassepier, Lays, le Mesnil et Aussy...en tèle manière...comme li home mon seignr Jehan Lardenois et li Ostelet en ont...” by charter dated 19 Mar 1273 (O.S.)[378].  The form of this document follows closely that of the 24 Jun 1273 charter under which Catherine’s supposed paternal uncle freed Florenville (see HAINAUT).  The earliest date of Catherine’s first marriage is suggested by her supposed paternal grandmother freeing “Fontenoille” (another Florenville property) by charter dated 5 Jun 1270 (see HAINAUT)[379].  This date suggests Catherine’s birth in [1255/60].  Her second marriage is indicated by the inheritance of Saint-Loup au Bois and various Florenville properties by Marguerite, Catherine’s daughter by this supposed second marriage, and by the mention of her supposed third son Thomas de Coucy-Vervins in connection with Saint-Loup (see below), read together with the Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes which records that "secundus…Ioannes", son of "Thomas" and his second wife "Margaretam vicedomini de Pinkengni filiam", married "filiam domini Renaldi de Sancto Lupo"[380], and with the Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) which record that "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, married “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu[381].  As explained in the document HAINAUT, it is suggested that Renaud de Saint-Loup was Catherine’s maternal grandfather not her father.  The date of Catherine’s second marriage is suggested by her supposed daughter Marguerite de Vervins acting in her own name in a charter dated Jun 1293 (see below).  Catherine presumably died before Jun 1293, the date of her supposed daughter Marguerite’s charter.  Jean & his wife had four children: 

i)          MARGUERITE [de Vervins] (-after 1325).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, had “une fille mariée en Alemaigne[382].  Dame de Sainte-Cécile: Henri III Comte de Bar, at the request of “sa féale cousine Marguerite, fille de Jean de Vervins, dame de Ste-Cécile”, “prend en garde contre une redevance annuelle les habitants de Ste-Cécile, Chassepierre, les deux Termes, Fontenoille, Framont, Azy, Le Menil, Laiche et Rennemont” by charter dated Jun 1293[383].  Marguerite and Henri III Comte de Bar were related distantly through Agnes de Bar, great-grandmother of Isabelle de Chiny (Marguerite’s supposed grandmother).  Europäische Stammtafeln records Marguerite, wife of Gilles [III] de Rodemack, in 1312 and 1325 indicating that she was “de Joinville” (which is of course inconsistent with her suggested Coucy-Vervins origin)[384].  The link between the daughter of Jean de Coucy-Vervins and the wife of Gilles [III] Seigneur de Rodemack is indicated by the transmission of parts of the “Florenville” fief which had been brought to the Trazegnies family by Isabelle de Chiny, second wife of Oste [IV] Seigneur de Trazegnies (see the document HAINAUT).  This fief included Chassepierre (recorded as held by Marguerite’s husband and by their supposed descendants), Sainte-Cécile (recorded as held by Marguerite herself), and “Saint-Lou” (=Saint-Loup en Bois) and other properties (held by Marguerite’s mother).  m (before 1303) GILLES [III] Seigneur de Rodemack, son of GILLES [II] Seigneur de Rodemack & his wife Sophie --- (-[1327]). 

ii)         ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-young).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “li aisné...Enguerrand qui mourut enfans, li autre Guy et li tiers Thomas” as the three sons of "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, and his wife “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu[385]

iii)        GUY de Coucy .  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “li aisné...Enguerrand qui mourut enfans, li autre Guy et li tiers Thomas” as the three sons of "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, and his wife “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu”, adding that the two younger sons “vivoient quand ce livre fut faits[386]m ---.  The name of Guy’s wife is not known.  Guy & his wife had [one child]: 

(a)       [JEAN de Vervins (-after 1347).  While the primary source which confirms Jean’s parentage has not been identified, it is indicated by the [1343] document quoted below which names Thomas de Coucy-Vervins (see below) as Jean’s uncle.  Seigneur de Bosmont (identified by Moranvillé as Bosmont in the present-day French département of Aisne, arrondissement Laon, canton Marle[387]).  The Chronicle of Gilles li Muisis records that, during the first week of May 1347, “miles dominus Johannes dictus de Vrevin et dominus de Beaumont juxta Marle” defected to the English with “castrum suum de Beaumont...[388].  The Chronicle of Jean de Noyal records that “le chastel de Boomont emprès Marle, lequel estoit à messire Jehan de Vrevin chevalier” was besieged by “le conte de Roucy”, explaining that Jean had been defeated “en champ par messire Henri du Bos chevalier à Paris en la presence du roy” and fled to the English at Calais to whom he had delivered his castle, dated to 1347[389].  Moranvillé describes the background to these events, quoting documents dated 5 Dec 1343 and 15 Dec [1343?] which record the conflict between “Henrico de Bosco milite” and “Johanne de Vervino milite” and name “messire Thomas de Vervin oncle d’icelui messire Jehan...Gilequin de Rodemach” among Jean’s pledges[390].] 

iv)        THOMAS de Coucy (-after 15 Dec [1343]).  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) name “li aisné...Enguerrand qui mourut enfans, li autre Guy et li tiers Thomas” as the three sons of "Iehan", second son of “Thomas de Veruin fils monsieur Thomas de Coucy le premier”, and his wife “la fille Monsieur Regnault de sainct Leu”, adding that the two younger sons “vivoient quand ce livre fut faits[391].  Seigneur de Saint-Loup en Bois: a charter dated [1325] lists the fiefs held by Thoumas de Vrevin chevaliers” from “madame la contesse de Nevers et de Retest...tout se tain dou chastel d’Oumont”, including fiefs “en la ville de Sain [Leu]...[et] à Lefincourt” (naming the fiefholders)[392].  He is named in the 15 Dec [1343?] document quoted above under his supposed nephew Jean de Vervins Seigneur de Bosmont.  [m ALIX de Trie, (-1323 or after, bur Landousis).  Père Anselme records her parentage and marriage, her testament dated 1323 (this date seems early if she was the sister of Jeanne, married in 1345) and her place of burial (no sources cited)[393].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.] 

c)         MARIE de Coucy (-before Jul 1281)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "filia…Thomæ Maria" married "domino Galtero de Torota"[394].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy le second" married “Gaucher de Torote” and had two daughters[395]"Gauchiers chastelains de Noyon et de Thorote chevaliers" donated revenue to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, for the souls of “mes deus femmes que jai eues...Biatris de Honnecourt et Marie de Vervin”, by charter dated Jul 1281[396]Gaucher châtelain de Noyon et de Thorote chevalier” notified that he and “Marie de Coucy jadis sa femme” had donated revenue from Braye to Foigny for their anniversaries by charter dated Aug 1281[397]m as his second wife, GAUCHER de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon, Seigneur de Thourotte et d'Honnecourt, son of JEAN de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife Agnes --- (-[1 Jun 1292/Mar 1293]). 

2.         YOLANDE de Coucy .  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “Evrardo Raduel...Arnulfus primogenitus” married “Yolent filiam domini de Couchi, domini de Verwino[398]Arnulphus dominus de Moretaigne et castellanus de Tornaco et Yolendis uxor mea” granted exemptions from duties to the monks of Vaucelles by charter dated Mar 1246[399].  "Arnulphus castellanus Tornacensis et Yolendis uxor eius" exchanged properties with the abbey of Cysoing by charter dated Jul 1250[400]m (before Mar 1246) ARNAUD de Mortagne Châtelain de Tournai Seigneur de Mortagne, son of EVERARD [IV] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai & his first wife Isabelle d’Enghien (-[Jul 1266/May 1267]). 

3.         FELICITE de Coucy (-1307)The Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "secunda…Felicitas", daughter of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", married "domino Balduino de Avesnes domino de Bellomonte"[401]Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated Jul 1257 by which "Baudouin d’Avesnes sire de Beaumont" consented to "son oncle Gaucher comte de Rethel" receiving the homage of "son frère Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins"[402]Balduinus de Avesnis dominus de Bellomonte et Felicitas eius uxor nec non et Johannes eorum filius unicus” founded a position at the hospital of Beaumont to serve “l’église du béguignage” by charter dated Jan 1281[403].  “Felicitas uxor quondam...domini Balduini de Avesnis domini de Bellomonte” appointed “dominum Henricum de Pontibus” to the position at the hospital of Beaumont to serve “l’église du béguignage” by charter dated 26 Dec 1306[404]m as his second wife, BAUDOUIN d'Avesnes, son of BOUCHARD d'Avesnes & his wife Marguerite II Ctss of Flanders, Ctss de Hainaut (Sep 1219-10 Apr 1295). 

4.         AGNES de Coucy (-1277).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that “frater eius Gobbertus” succeeded "primogenitus Joffridus” (of “Juliana" and "domino Goberto de Asperomonte") married “Agnete filia domini Thomæ de Couchi” and had “duos...filios...primogeniti Joffridus et alterius Thomas” (who married “duas sorores, filias domini de Kieverain”) and “duas filias[405].  “Gobert sire d’Aspremont” agreed the dower of “Agnès sa femme” over “la moitié de toute sa terre et un château à son choix” by charter dated Apr 1255[406].  “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Agnès sa femme” renounced the succession of “feu Mgr Thomas de Coucy sire de Vervins leur père et de Mad. Mahault sa veuve leur mère” in favour of “Mgr Thomas de Coucy leur frère Sgr de Vervins”, noting that the last named had granted revenue from “Pertes, Châtillon-sur-Bar, Poix et Parfondeval” as dowry, by charter dated May 1259[407]m ([1254]) GOBERT [VII] Seigneur d'Aspremont, son of GOBERT [VI] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Juliane de Rozoy (-[24 Aug 1278/Apr 1280], bur Verdun Franciscan convent). 

5.         HELISENDEThe Chronicle of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "quarta…Elisandis", daughter of "Thomas dominus de Veruin ex Mathilde primogenita filia comitis de Retest", was "abbatissa…Pacis Dominæ nostræ"[408].  The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) record that "la quarte fille monsieur Thomas de Coucy...Elisens" was “abbaisse de la Paix Nostre-Dame[409]

 

 

The following persons were presumably descendants of Jean de Coucy, son of Thomas de Coucy and his wife Isabelle d’Enghien (see above) who, according to Duchesne, "continua la postérité de l’ancien nom de Coucy" (which he could not trace “faute de preuves certaines”)[410].  The primary sources which confirm their descent have not been identified.  Le Long, in his Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du diocèse de Laon, provides a different perspective, stating that Thomas de Coucy named below was the son of Thomas de Coucy, older brother of Jean, who was killed at Courtrai (see above), and his wife “Isabeau de Los[411].  He cites no sources on which he bases this information.  The name of his supposed wife presumably represents confusion with Elisabeth de Looz, first wife of Thomas de Coucy, paternal grandfather of the brothers Thomas and Jean.  If Le Long correctly dates Thomas’s death to 1392, it is unlikely that he was the son of Thomas who died at Courtrai in 1302 and, in any case, as noted above Duchesne states that Thomas, brother of Jean, "ne laissa point de lignée". 

 

1.         THOMAS de Coucy (-[6 May 1392, bur Foigny]).  Seigneur de Vervins.  Le Long says that Thomas died “en 1392”, without citing the source which confirms this date[412].  Hozier records his death 6 May 1392 and that of his wife “le 30 du même mois”, and their burial at Foigny[413].  [m firstly ---.  The potential consanguinity between Raoul de Coucy, Thomas’s supposed descendant (see below), and his first wife Marie de Hans suggests that Thomas’s known wife Agnes de Hans may not have been his ancestor, which in turn suggests the possibility of an earlier marriage of Thomas.]  m [secondly] AGNES de Hans, daughter of --- (-[30 May 1393, bur Foigny]).  Barthélemy records Agnes as daughter of Henri [III] Seigneur de Hans by his first wife Marie de Lor, notes that she married Thomas de Coucy Seigneur de Vervins, that she died 30 May 1393, and was buried at Foigny “auprès de sa mère[414].  He cites no sources on which he bases this information.  The chronology is wrong.  Assuming that Henri [III] did have a daughter named Agnes, and that she died 30 May 1393, her date of birth (estimated from her mother’s birthdate) suggests that she would probably have died unmarried or recently married.  If that is correct, Agnes, wife of Thomas de Coucy, would have been the daughter of an earlier Seigneur de Hans.  The possibilities are (1) Jacques [II], (2) Henri [II], or (3) Jacques, younger brother of Henri [II].  The chronology of the Coucy/Vervins family is too uncertain to test these possibilities.  Le Long names “Agnès de Ham” as Thomas’s wife[415].  No such person has been traced in the Ham family (see the document NORTHERN FRANCE-VALOIS/VEXIN/VERMANDOIS).  Hozier’s Armorial Général confuses matters further, naming her “Agnès de Ham, fille de Jaques Seigneur de Ham et de Heilly, et de Françoise des Armoises[416].  Hozier records the death of Thomas de Coucy 6 May 1392 and that of his wife “le 30 du même mois”, and their burial at Foigny[417]

 

2.         ENGUERRAND de Coucy (-after 17 Apr 1436).  Seigneur de VervinsGobert d’Aspremont Sgr de Busancy”, on behalf of “Edouard d’Aspremont son fils aîné et Gaucher de Lor éc. comme mari de Marie d’Aspremont fille dudit Gobert”, settled disputes with “Enguerran de Coucy chev. Sgr de Vervins” concerning “la terre de Busancy” by charter dated 17 Apr 1436[418]

 

3.         --- de Coucy .  Her family origin and marriage are confirmed by the 17 Apr 1436 charter cited above, in which her husband acted against Enguerrand de Coucy on behalf of the couple’s children.  The primary source which confirms her relationship with Enguerrand has not been found but presumably she was either his daughter or his sister.  m GOBERT [IX] Seigneur d’Aspremont, son of GEOFFROY [V] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife --- (-after 31 Oct 1446). 

 

4.         RAOUL de Coucy (-Chémery 1515, bur Vervins).  Le Long traces Raoul’s descent from Thomas de Coucy, named above, and his wife “Agnès de Ham”, adding that Raoul was “seigneur de Vervins, de Poilcourt au diocèse de Reims[419].  He also records Raoul’s descendants (by his second marriage).  Presumably the information is based on Hozier’s Armorial Général[420].  As Le Long cites no sources, and Hozier only few, their information has not been copied into the present document.  Chambellan du roi.  Hozier provides details about Raoul’s career and notes his death in 1515 “en sa maison de Chémery en Rethelois” and place of burial[421]m firstly MARIE de Hans, daughter of HENRI [IV] Seigneur de Hans & his wife [Jacqueline/Louise] van Gistel.  Barthélemy records her parentage and marriage, without citing the sources which confirm the information[422]m secondly (1 Jan 1488) HELENE de la Chapelle, daughter of GOBERT de la Chapelle & his wife Jeanne Dauberme (-bur Vervins).  Hozier records her parentage, marriage, and place of burial[423]

 

5.         RAOUL de Coucy (-[22] Mar 1561, bur Sauvoir-sous-Laon).  Seigneur de VervinsAn epitaph at Sauvoir-sous-Laon records the burial of “Messire Raoul de Coucy cheualier sr de Veruin gent[ilhomme de la] chambre du Rou gour du comté de Marle...” who died “le [xxii] jour de mars mil Vc LX et ung[424]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 3.    ROUCY

 

 

A.      COMTES de ROUCY (ORIGINS)

 

 

Roucy is a commune in the canton of Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, arrondissement of Laon, in the present-day French département of Aisne, north of Reims, in the Picardie region.  The castle of Roucy was built in [947/49] by Comte Ragenold.  He has been identified as the Viking raider Ragenold who is recorded between 923 and 926.  Twenty years later Comte Ragenold was recorded as the ally of Louis IV “d’Outremer” King of the West Franks in the 940s in his struggles against the Vermandois family.  He married the king’s stepdaughter (the daughter of his wife by her first marriage to Giselbert Duke of Lotharingia).  The transformation from Viking raider into royal ally appears implausible, although the family of the dukes of Normandy started out in a similar way.  There are two difficulties with the case of Ragenold: firstly, the gap of 20 years during which no record has been found of his activities, and secondly his marriage, apparently his first as there is no record of an earlier marriage or of any children born to an earlier wife, when he would have been in his late 40s.  It is possible that there were in fact two individuals named Ragenold, although if this hypothesis is correct there is no indication of the origin of the second Ragenold. 

 

 

1.         RAGENOLD (-after 926).  Flodoard records in 923 that "Ragenoldus princeps Nortmannorum" was operating “in fluvio Ligeri” [River Loire] and pillaged “Franciam trans Isaram” [River Oise] with help from “coniunctis sibi plurimis ex Rodomo” [Rouen], that “fideles Heriberti” with “Rodulfo privigno Rotgeri et Ingobranno comitibus” recaptured booty and freed prisoners, that Ragenold went “in pagum Atrabatensem” [Artois] where he was defeated by “comes Adelelmus” and took refuge “ad munitionem suarum”, and that King Raoul forced peace with “Nortmanni” after they devastated “pagum Belvacensem” [Beauvaisis][425].  The reference to the Loire suggests that Ragenold may have been a member of the group of Vikings who occupied Brittany in 919.  Flodoard records that “Raginardus” continued his raids in 924, attacking Burgundy, but that in 925 he was defeated by “Warnerius et Manasses comites, Ansegisus et Gotselmus præsules” at “montem Calaum” [Chalmont][426]The Chronicon Maceriense records in 925 that "Manasses Porcensis, Marcus Dulcomensis et Guarinus Castriencis" defeated "cum Reginaldo Rociensi Normannos apud Calvum montem"[427]Flodoard records that “Nortmannos” (without naming their leader) attacked “in pago Atrabatensi” in 926 but were again defeated[428]same person as...?  RAGENOLD [Renaud] (-10 May 967, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy)There is no record of Ragenold over the following twenty years, which suggests the possibility that the following later entries do not refer to the same person, as further discussed in the Introduction to the present chapter.  Flodoard records in 944 that “Ragenoldus” attacked the abbey of Saint-Médard de Soissons at the same time as the king’s troops attacked “episcopatum Remensem[429].  The text of this passage suggests coordination, presumably based on an alliance, which appears confirmed by Flodoard’s record in 945 that King Louis “collecto secum Nortmannorum exercitu” attacked “Veromandinsem pagum” and his report that Hugues “le Grand” suggested that “Ragenoldus” represent the king at a conference organised after he defeated “Nortmannis[430].  Comte [de Reims]:  Flodoard records in 947 that "Ragenaldus comes et Dodo frater ipsius præsulis" (the latter referring to Artaud Archbishop of Reims) headed the army of the archbishopric of Reims against Hérivé, nephew of the previous archbishop[431]This passage suggests that Ragenold may have been installed as military chief at Reims after Artaud was restored as archbishop in 946.  It is not certain that Ragenold’s county at that time was Reims: Orderic Vitalis refers to "filiam Rainaldi comitis Remorum" when recording her marriage (see below)[432], but he was writing much later and, in any case, it is likely that the archbishop of Reims enjoyed comital jurisdiction in the town.  A clearer statement is found in the (presumably contemporary) charter dated to [948/54], relating to the foundation of Charlieu abbey, which is subscribed by "Rainaldus Remensis comitis"[433]On the other hand, the unusual phrasing “comes Ludowici”, in the extract which follows, suggests that Ragenold owed his comital title directly to the king and that it may not have been linked to a geographical county, although this would have been unusual at the time.  Flodoard records in 948 that Hugues “le Grand” unsuccessfully besieged “munitionem...super Axonam fluvium in loco...Rauciacus” [Roucy] which was being built by “Ragenoldus comes Ludowici[434]Comte de RoucyFlodoard records in 949 that “Ragenaldus comes” built “munitionem...in fluvio Materna...apud Maroilum” [Mareuil][435]; in 949 that "Ragenaldus comes" captured "castrum quondam Herivei…Castellionem"[436]; and in 950 names "Arnulfo comite et Ragenoldo atque Artoldo archiepiscopo" as the king’s representatives to negotiate the return fo the castle of Laon from Hugues “le Grand”, and also that “homines Ragenoldi comitis” captured “munitionem Rodomensis æcclesiæ super fluvium Vidulam...Brainam[437].  Flodoard in 953 records that "Ragenaldus comes" was threatened with excommunication for having taken property of the church of Reims, but that the king intervened on his behalf[438].  Flodoard in 954 records that "Heribertus comes" captured “Rauciacum munitionem Ragenaldi” but later returned it in exchange for “quibusdam villis[439].  He supported King Lothaire on his expedition to Aquitaine in 955[440]: Flodoard in 955 records that "Ragenaldus comes" captured “castrum...sanctæ Radegundis urbi” during the siege of Poitiers[441].  Flodoard in 966 records that "Odelricus archiepiscopus" excommunicated “Ragenaldum comitem” for having captured villages belonging to the church of Reims and that Ragenold pillaged the archbishop’s territories in revenge[442]A manuscript Noticia de benefactoribus S. Remigii includes the donation by “Rogenoldus comes” of “Curtem Cedronis” [Courtcedre][443].  The necrology of Reims records the death “VI Id Mai” of “Raginoldus comes[444]The Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis records that “Rainaldus consiliarus regis Hlotarii” died “mense Junio...anno nono ordinationis suæ”, the latter referring to Archambaud who was appointed as archbishop of Sens in 958, therefore the passage being dated to 967[445]m ALBERADE, daughter of GISELBERT Duke of Lotharingia & his wife Gerberga of Germany ([929/30]-, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy).  "Mathilde et Alberada" are named as daughters of "Gerberga" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which specifies that Alberada was mother of Ermentrudis but does not name Alberada's husband[446]Two epitaphs in the church of Saint-Rémy, Marly relate to "Ragenolde" and "Albrada", although neither refers to each other[447]Bouchard highlights the absence of proof that the husband of Alberade of Lotharingia was Ragenold Comte de Roucy[448].  She is named in a letter to Poppo of Stablo[449].  Count Ragenold & his wife had [four] children.  Their parentage is deduced by a combined reading of the different sources which refer to them.  None of these sources names both parents, so the affiliation is not beyond all doubt.  Comte Renaud & his wife had four children: 

a)         ERMENTRUDE ([947/52]-[5 Oct 1002/1004]).  "Ermentrudis" is named as daughter of "Alberada filia …Gerbergæ" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which does not name either her father or her husband but specifies that Ermentrudis was the mother of Agnes (Ctss de Poitou)[450], the latter naming both her parents in charters[451].  Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her son by her first marriage being named in 971.  "Ermentrudis conjuge sua" consented to the donation of land "in Aponiaco villa" by "Albericus comes Matisconensis" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Jan 971[452].  The date of her first marriage is indicated by her absence from the charter of "Albericus comes Matisconensis" dated Mar 966[453].  The genealogy of the Comtes de Mâcon, included in the cartulary of Saint-Vincent de Mâcon, records the marriage of "dominus Guillelmus comes" with the wife of "Albericus filius Leotaldi comitis"[454]Rodulfus Glaber states that "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" married the sister of "Brunone Lingonensi episcopo" who supported him in his rebellion against the king [Robert II][455].  Ermentrude's date of death is indicated by the Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon which records a donation by "Otto comes cognomento Willelmus" with "filii eius Rainaldi" dated 1004 "pro anima Hinrici Ducis, qui eum loco filii adoptavit et genitricis sue Gerberge uxoris predicti Ducis, ac filii sui Widonis et Hermintrudis coniugis"[456]m firstly (before 971) AUBRY [II] Comte de Mâcon, son of LETAUD Comte de Mâcon & his first wife Ermengarde [de Chalon] ([935/40]-after 17 Nov [before 981/82][457]).  m secondly (before [981/82]) as his first wife, OTHON GUILLAUME Comte de Mâcon et de Nevers [Bourgogne-Comté], son of ADALBERTO associate-King of Italy & his wife Gerberge de Chalon ([960/2]-Dijon 21 Sep 1026)

b)         GISELBERT ([948/55]-19 Apr [991/1000], maybe 997, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy).  The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum (dated to 991) quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertum…"[458]Comte de Roucy

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c)         daughter .  The Genealogia Comitum Flandriæ mentions "filiam Rainoldi comitis Remorum", without naming her, as wife of "Frotmundus"[459].  The Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis records that “Frotmundus” married “filiam Rainaldi Remoru Comitis[460].  Orderic Vitalis records that "Rainaldus comes vetulus Senonum...Fromundus filius eius" married "filiam Rainaldi comitis Remorum"[461].  While it is not certain that this indicates Renaud de Roucy, Reims was one of his early bases and no other "Comte de Reims" has been identified.  m FROMOND [II] Comte de Sens, son of RENARD [I] Comte de Sens & his wife --- (-1012). 

d)         BRUNO ([955/56]-29 Jan 1016).  His parentage is deduced from Rodulfus Glaber stating that "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" married the sister of "Brunone Lingonensi episcopo", when recording that the latter supported his brother-in-law in the latter's rebellion against the king [Robert II][462]Cleric at Reims.  Bishop of Langres 980.  The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon records that King Lothaire installed "Brunoni Remensis Ecclesie clerico…suo vero parenti propinquitate consanguinitatis" as bishop of Langres in 980[463], King Lothaire being the uterine half-brother of Bruno's mother.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the appointment of "Bruno clericus Remensis regis Lotharii propinquus" as bishop of Langres in 980 at the age of 24[464].  The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertum, meumque consobrinum comitem Guidonem"[465], although the latter has not been identified.  His necrology records the death of "Brunonis episcopi Lingonice" aged 60 after 36 years in his bishopric but does not specify his date of death[466]

 

 

GISELBERT [de Roucy], son of RENAUD Comte [de Roucy] & his wife Alberade de Hainaut ([948/55]-19 Apr [991/1000], maybe 997, bur Abbaye de Saint-Rémy).  The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum (dated to 991) quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to "unicum fratrem meum comitem Gislebertum…"[467]Comte de Roucy.  “...Gilbertus comes confirmavi...” subscribed the charter dated 26 May 974 under which Lothaire King of the Franks confirmed the possessions of the monastery of Saint-Thierry de Reims[468]Vicomte de Reims: Varin refers to a manuscript which records that “comte...Gislebert fils de Renaud comte de Reims et de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la vicomté [de Reims]...à l’abbaye de Saint-Rémi” while retaining the other half of the vicomté[469]The necrology of Reims Cathedral records the death "XIII Kal Mai" of "Gisbertus comes"[470]

m --- [de Poitiers].  Père Anselme states that the wife of "Gilbert Comte de Reims et de Roucy…semble avoir été de la maison de Poitiers" and that the couple were parents of Ebles, Liétard and Judith, shown below[471].  The primary source on which this is based is not known.  However, it is doubtful whether it can be correct in all its details.  In particular, Judith Ctss de Rethel (alleged daughter of Giselbert & his wife, see below) must have been born in [1020/30] for chronological consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants, which excludes her being Giselbert's daughter.  In addition, the origin of the names Ebles, Liétard and Judith is unclear among the family of Giselbert Comte de Roucy.  Jean-Noël Mathieu suggests that Giselbert died childless and that the father of these children was Ebles de Poitou, son of Guillaume IV "Fier-à-Bras" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume II Comte de Poitou] & his wife Emma de Blois, based partly on onomastics and partly to explain how the territories of Rumigny-en-Porcéan and Coucy (under the suzerainty, respectively, of the abbey of Saint-Nicaise de Reims and the church of Saint-Rémi de Reims, and thereby closely connected with the family of the Comtes de Blois-Champagne) came into the family[472].  J-N. Mathieu also suggests that the mother of these children was an otherwise unknown daughter of Ermentrude de Roucy, sister of Comte Giselbert, by her first husband Aubry [II] Comte de Macon who, in the ordinary course of events, would have been heiress of Roucy if Giselbert had died childless.  The suggestion appears consistent from a chronological point of view.  However, more research is needed to establish the original source on which the affiliation from Giselbert is based.  Another possibility is that Ebles and Eudes were sons of Giselbert, but that Lietaud and Judith were children born from a second marriage of their mother. 

Comte Giselbert & his wife had [four possible children]: 

1.         [EBLES (-11 May 1033).  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[473]Comte de Roucy 997.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the succession in 1023 as archbishop of Reims of "Ebalus qui fuit comes de Roseio"[474]Archbishop of Reims 1021.  Moranvillé casts doubt on the co-identity of Ebles Comte de Roucy with Ebles Archbishop of Reims[475].  He deems significant that Alberic uses “Roseio” in the passage cited above, whereas in all other passages in which he refers to the Roucy family he uses “Roceio”.  He also cites two sources which report the appointment of the new archbishop but make no reference to his reported Roucy origin.  Firstly, a letter of Fulbert Bishop of Chartres addressed to Guy Bishop of Soissons dated 1021[476], and secondly Hariulf’s Chronicle of Saint-Riquier[477].  Both these sources refer only briefly to the archbishop, without any description of his background, so the absence of any reference in them to his antecedents would not be surprising.  As for the difference in spelling Roseio/Roceio, this could be explained by a simple mistake or transcription error.  In any case, no reference has been found to any “comte de Roussy/Rousy”, as opposed to Roucy, at that time.  It is correct that there are numerous examples of information in Alberic which is disproved by other primary sources.  However, they are far outnumbered by cases in which his information is corroborated, and are insufficient to conclude that Alberic should be assumed to be unreliable.  The Annales Mosomagenses record the death in 1033 of “Oebalus Remorum archiepiscopus[478].  The necrology of Reims records the death “V Id Mai” of “dominus Ebalus archiepiscopus” and his donation of “ecclesiam de Betignivilla[479]m (divorced before 1021) as her first husband, BEATRIX de Hainaut, daughter of REGINAR IV Comte de Hainaut & his wife Hedwige de France (after [996]-).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Beatricem" as daughter of "Rainero comiti de Hainaco" & his wife Hedwige, naming her husband "Ebalus de Roceio"[480]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis gives more details, naming "Beatricem" daughter of "Hadevidem…comitissam Hainonensium" and specifying that she married "Ebalus de Roceio, cuius frater fuit Lebaldus de Malla et soror Iveta comitissa de Roitest" and later "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina"[481].  She married secondly ([1021]) Manassès de Ramerupt  "Calva-asina" [Montdidier].  Comte Ebles & his wife had two children: 

a)         ADELAIDE de Roucy ([1015/20]-1062)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[482]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[483]The Histoire de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi septemque filias...[484]Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY)[485].  However, he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085.  Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060].  m HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier Seigneur de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-[1063]). 

b)         HEDWIGE de Roucy (-1070 or after)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that Hedwige married "Godefridus frater episcopi Gerardi Cameracensis"[486], although the bishop in question was the uncle of Hedwige's husband not his brother.  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife Beatrix, specifying that Hedwige married "Condefrido de Ruminiaco" by whom she had "filium nomine Nicholaum et filias, quarum una peperit ex Radulfo de Veteri-villa Ebalum de Flurines et Ermentrudem, matrem Guilelmi de Birbais; secunda filia Hadevidis de Rumiaco ex Godefrido de Ranst peperit filios Iohannem et Nicholaum, qui Nicholaus Arnulfum et Godefridum procreavit; tercia filia iam dicte Hadevidis copulate domino de Granci peperit ei Ebalum eiusdem loci dominum"[487].  The dating clause of a charter dated 1070, which records a donation made to Rumigny, records “...abbate Godefrido eiusdem loci, uxore eius Haduit...”, witnessed by “Godefridus advocatus, Nicolaus eius filius, Arnulfus frater eius...[488]m GODEFROI [IV] de Florennes, son of GODEFROI [III] Seigneur de Florennes [Rumigny] & his wife Gisela ---.  1066/78. 

2.         [EUDES "le Fort/fortis" (-27 Aug after 1021).  The necrology of the church of Reims records the death "VI Kal Sep" of "Odo Fortis frater domini Ebali archiepiscopi"[489]

3.         [LETAUD de Marle .  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio"[490].] 

-        SEIGNEURS de MARLE

4.         [JUDITH .  The Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest" as brother and sister of "Ebalus de Roceio" and, in a later passage, "Iuetta soror…Letaldi de Marla" as mother of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[491]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Reitest, uxor comitis Manesserii Iutta” as sister of "fratres Ebalus comes de Roceio et Letardus domnus de Marla"[492].  Hugues de Rethel names his parents Manassès and Judith in a charter dated 1081 for the church of Braux[493].  However, Judith Ctss de Rethel must have been born in [1020/30] for chronological consistency with the estimated birth dates of her descendants, which excludes her being the daughter of Giselbert Comte de Roucy.  It is possible, as suggested above, that she was the uterine half-sister of Ebles Comte de Roucy, born from their mother's second marriage.  m MANASSES [III] Comte de Rethel, son of --- (-1081 or after).] 

 

 

 

B.      COMTES de ROUCY (MONTDIDIER)

 

 

EBLES de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier et de Roucy, Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife Adelaide de Roucy (-May 1103)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ebalus…de Roceio et Andreas de Ramerut et Arceis comites" as the two sons of "Hilduinus de Ramerut" & his wife Adelaide[494]Comte de RoucyThe Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ebalum comitem…et Andream comitem de Ramerut et filias" as children of "comes Helduinus [et] Adelaide"[495].  "Eblo de Roceio" donated property "in terra Morissarti" [Mortcerf] to the abbey of Saint-Martin de Pontoise by charter dated [1082][496]"Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated property to the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie by charter dated 1082[497].  Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "tyrannide fortissimo et tumultuosi baronis Ebali Ruciacensis et filii eius Guischardi" devastated the lands of the church of Reims[498]

m (before 1082) SIBYLLE de Apulia, daughter of ROBERT “Guiscard” Duke of Apulia & his second wife Sichelgaita di Salerno.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Sybilla" as wife of "comitis Ebali de Roceio" but does not give her origin[499].  The Alexeiad records that Robert "Guiscard" married "the other [daughter] to Eubulus who was himself a count of great distinction" but does not name her[500].  "Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated property to the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie by charter dated 1082[501]

Comte Ebles & his wife had [seven] children: 

1.         GUISCARD de Roucy (-[1153/54]).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[502].  Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "tyrannide fortissimo et tumultuosi baronis Ebali Ruciacensis et filii eius Guischardi" devastated the lands of the church of Reims[503]Comte de Roucy.  The Annales Mosomagenses record 1153 “bellum inter Sansonem archiepiscopum Remensem et Guiscardum comitem de Roceio[504]

2.         THOMAS de RoucyThe Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[505]

3.         HUGUES "Cholet" de Roucy ([1090]-[1160], bur Reims St Thierry)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[506]Comte de Roucy

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4.         [EBLES de Roucy (-before 1157).  Moret de la Fayole names “Eble de Roucy” as a younger son of Comte Ebles but does not cite the corresponding primary source[507].  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.]  m ---.  The name of Ebles's wife is not known.  Ebles & his wife had one child: 

a)         EBLES de Roucy (-after 1157).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Moret de la Fayole names “Eble de Roucy” as father of “un autre Eble” who shared “la disme de Roucy” with “Thomas et Petronille de Roucy ses cousin et cousine”, referring to the donation to Marmoutier dated 1157 which is cited below[508]

5.         [MANASSES de Roucy (-before 1157).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Moret de la Fayole names “Manasse de Roucy” as another younger son of Comte Ebles, indicating that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter dated 1157 under which “Thomas de Roucy et Petronille sa sœur femme de Raoul Comte de Vieille-vigne, enfans de Manasses de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la disme de Roucy, qu’ils tenoient d’Eble de Roucy leur cousin[509].]  m ---.  The name of Manassès's wife is not known.  Manassès & his wife had one child:

a)         THOMAS de Roucy (-after 1157).  Moret de la Fayole indicates that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter dated 1157 under which “Thomas de Roucy et Petronille sa sœur femme de Raoul Comte de Vieille-vigne, enfans de Manasses de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la disme de Roucy, qu’ils tenoient d’Eble de Roucy leur cousin[510]m ---.  The name of Thomas’s wife is not known.  Thomas & his wife had one child: 

i)          GUILLAUME de Roucy .  Moret de la Fayole indicates that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter (presumably undated) under which “Guillaume de Roucy fils de Thomas” donated “vingt-sous de rente à prendre sur la taille de Châlons sur Véele” to Marmoutier[511]

b)         PETRONILLA de Roucy (-after 1157).  Moret de la Fayole indicates that “le Chartulaire de Marmoutier” includes a charter dated 1157 under which “Thomas de Roucy et Petronille sa sœur femme de Raoul Comte de Vieille-vigne, enfans de Manasses de Roucy” donated “la moitié de la disme de Roucy, qu’ils tenoient d’Eble de Roucy leur cousin[512].  The Chronicon Lætiense names "Petronilla cognomento Comitissam" as wife of "apud Veterem-villam comes Radulphus", specifying that she was "cognata…Ebali qui filius fuit Hilduini comitis de Roci" and that her husband founded the church of Gociliis[513]m RAOUL Comte de Vieille-Ville, son of ---.  Raoul has not been identified, otherwise than the references in the sources quoted above.  One child: 

i)          EBLES de Vieille-Ville .  The Chronicon Lætiense names "Ebalus filius [Petronillæ]"[514]

6.         MABILE de Roucy (-after 1122)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo congnomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned first) married "Hugoni de Puisat" by whom she had "Hugonem de Gata"[515]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Hugoni de Puisato" as sister of "Wichardum de Rocheio et comitem Hugonem Cholet"[516].  William of Tyre names the wife of Hugues du Puiset "Mamilia filia domini Hugonis Cholet comitis de Ruci[517], but it appears more acceptable chronologically for Mabile to have been the daughter of Comte Ebles II than of Comte Hugues de Roucy.  William of Tyre records her marriage to "fratri comitis Namura" and his installation to succeed his wife's first husband as Lord of Jaffa[518]m firstly HUGUES du Puiset, son of HUGUES [I] du Puiset “Blavons” & his wife Alix de Montlhéry (-[1118]).  m secondly ([1118/19]) ALBERT de Namur, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 1122).  He was installed as Lord of Jaffa in succession to his wife's first husband. 

7.         AGNES de Roucy The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo congnomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) married "Godefridus de Ribodio" and, after his death, "domino de Basengi" by whom she had "Wiscardum eiusdem loci dominum"[519]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to another sister of "Wichardum de Rocheio et comitem Hugonem Cholet" as wife first of “mariti sui de Ribodimonte” and secondly of “domno de Claromonte in Basigneio[520]m firstly GODEFROI [I] de Ribemont, son of ANSELME [II] de Ribemont & his wife Berthe --- (-after 1107).  m secondly (before 1119) SIMON [II] Comte de Clefmont [en Bassigny], son of --- (-after [1130]). 

 

 

HUGUES "Cholet" de Roucy, son of EBLES [II] Comte de Roucy & his wife Sibylle of Apulia ([1090]-[1160], bur Reims St Thierry)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et Thomas et Hugo cognomento Cholez et filie" as children of "Ebalo comite de Roceio"[521]Comte de Roucy.  “Hugo comes de Roceio” donated property “in territorio Silvinii” to Igny Notre-Dame, for the souls of “uxoris meæ Richentiæ comitisæ...”, with the consent of “eiusdem uxoris meæ ac filii nostri Wischardi...et aliorum tam filiorum quam filiarum”, by charter dated [1147][522]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[523]Hugues comte de Roucy et Wischard son fils” donated “les prés de Saint-Quentin...” to Valroy, noting the burial there of “la comtesse”, with the consent of “l’épouse de Wischard, Hugues son frère et ses trois sœurs” and confirming the consent of “mon fils Eballus, en ce moment éloigé d’ici”, by undated charter[524].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[525].  Seigneur de Nizy-le-Comte et de Sevigny. 

m firstly AVELINE, daughter of --- (-[after 1117]).  Moret de la Fayole names “Aveline” as the first wife of Comte Hugues but does not cite the primary source which confirms this information[526]The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  Europäische Stammtafeln specifies the date “1117” after Aveline[527], but no indication has been found of the source to which this date relates. 

m secondly (after 1117) RICHILDE von Staufen, daughter of FRIEDRICH I Duke of Swabia [Staufen] & his wife Agnes of Germany ([1100]-before 1154, bur Valroy).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "comes Hugo Cholez" as sister of "ut dicitur, imperatoris Conradi" but does not name her[528].  “Hugo comes de Roceio” donated property “in territorio Silvinii” to Igny Notre-Dame, for the souls of “uxoris meæ Richentiæ comitisæ...”, with the consent of “eiusdem uxoris meæ ac filii nostri Wischardi...et aliorum tam filiorum quam filiarum”, by charter dated [1147][529]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[530].  Her place of burial is confirmed by the undated charter for Valroy quoted above under her husband. 

Comte Hugues & his first wife had [one child]: 

1.         ADA de Roucy ([1117]-1172 or after)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et ceteri filii et filie" as children of "Hugo congnomento Cholez", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned first) married "Galchero de Moniai " by whom she had "Guidonem et Galcherum"[531]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one sister of "Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem" as wife of "Galtheiro de Monteisi" but does not name her[532]Europäische Stammtafeln shows Ada as her father’s daughter by his first wife[533].  No primary source has been identified which confirms that this is correct, although the chronology does suggest that Ada was older than the other children of Comte Hugues.  An undated charter under which "miles...Robertus de Courtenont" donated "medietatem decimæ de Fresne" to Meaux Saint-Pharon records the consent given by “Gaucherio de Castellione de cuius feodo res ipsa erat cum uxore sua Ada[534].  A charter dated 1146 records that "Gaucherus de Castellione Hierosolymam ire volens" donated property to Notre-Dame de Châtillon, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Adæ et duorum filiorum meorum Guidonis et Gaucherii de Castellione[535].  "Guido de Castellione" donated property to Châtillon priory, by charter dated 19 Jan 1162 (O.S.), subscribed by “Gaucherius frater meus, Germundus, Simon de Monteacuto, Ernulfus de Roseio, Herbertus Rex, Ada mater mea...[536]m GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, de Toissy, de Montjay et de Crécy, son of HENRI Seigneur de Châtillon & his wife Ermengarde [de Montjay] (-killed in battle Laodicea 19 Jan 1148). 

Comte Hugues & his second wife had seven children: 

2.         GUISCARD de Roucy (-[1180/81])The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et ceteri filii et filie" as children of "Hugo cognomento Cholez"[537].  “Hugo comes de Roceio” donated property “in territorio Silvinii” to Igny Notre-Dame, for the souls of “uxoris meæ Richentiæ comitisæ...”, with the consent of “eiusdem uxoris meæ ac filii nostri Wischardi...et aliorum tam filiorum quam filiarum”, by charter dated [1147][538]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[539]Hugues comte de Roucy et Wischard son fils” donated “les prés de Saint-Quentin...” to Valroy, noting the burial there of “la comtesse”, with the consent of “l’épouse de Wischard, Hugues son frère et ses trois sœurs” and confirming the consent of “mon fils Eballus, en ce moment éloigé d’ici”, by undated charter[540].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[541]Comte de Roucy.  “Wischardus...comes de Roceio” confirmed his parents’ donation “à Sévigny” to Valroy, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Elisabeth...de ses fils Radulphe, Jean et Ebles et de ses autres fils et filles”, by charter dated 1168[542]"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[543]Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[544].  Guiscard presumably died before the 1182 charter of  his son Raoul, cited below.  m (before 1154) as her second husband, ELISABETH de Mareuil Dame de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, widow of ROBERT de Pierrepont Seigneur de Montaigu, daughter of JEAN Vicomte de Mareuil Seigneur de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne & his wife --- (-1207 or after).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Wichardum novissimum" as "relicta Roberti de Monteacuto…filia Iohannis vicecomitis de Marvellis" but does not name her[545]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[546]Hugues comte de Roucy et Wischard son fils” donated “les prés de Saint-Quentin...” to Valroy, with the consent of “l’épouse de Wischard, Hugues son frère et ses trois sœurs” and confirming the consent of “mon fils Eballus, en ce moment éloigé d’ici”, by undated charter[547].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[548].  “Wischardus...comes de Roceio” confirmed his parents’ donation “à Sévigny” to Valroy, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Elisabeth...de ses fils Radulphe, Jean et Ebles et de ses autres fils et filles”, by charter dated 1168[549].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[550]"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[551]Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[552]"Guillelmus…abbas…Sancti Petri et Sancti Huberti in Ardennia" sold the abbey’s rights in a mill near Evergnicourt on the river Aisne to "Elizabeth dominæ de Novo Castro" by charter dated 1201[553]She married thirdly (1202) Renaud de Montdiviel"Renaud de Montdiviel et sa femme Elisabeth, veuve du comte de Roucy" donated property at Evergnicourt, acquired by Elisabeth "pendant son veuvage", to the abbey of Valroy by charter dated 1202[554].  The source which names her in 1207 has not been identified.  Guiscard & his wife had six children: 

a)         RAOUL de Roucy (-Palestine [1187/90?])The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Iohannem et Rodulfum" as sons of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife[555], although the documents cited below suggest that the name order is incorrect and that Raoul was older than his brother Jean.  “Wischardus...comes de Roceio” confirmed his parents’ donation “à Sévigny” to Valroy, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Elisabeth...de ses fils Radulphe, Jean et Ebles et de ses autres fils et filles”, by charter dated 1168[556].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[557]"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[558]Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard Comte de Roucy donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[559]Comte de Roucy.  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[560].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul donated revenue “à prendre sur Neuf-Châtel” [presumably Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, the property of his mother, see above] to Valroy by charter dated 1186 (no source cited)[561].  The date of Raoul’s death is uncertain.  Laborde indicates that he went on crusade with his father-in-law and that they both died “en Palestine, l’un peu de tems avant l’autre” (he cites no source, nor does he suggest which died first)[562].  Raoul de Coucy’s testament, made before leaving on crusade, is dated 1190, and Duchesne says that he was killed "au siège de la ville d’Acre" in 1191 (source not identified)[563].  Raoul de Roucy presumably died before the 1192 charter of his brother Jean, cited below, and maybe before his brother’s 1190 charter although, as noted below, it has not been confirmed that Jean was named “comte de Roucy” in that document.  Consistent with the problem highlighted below regarding the dating of his widow’s second marriage, one possibility is that Raoul de Roucy left for Jerusalem before his father-in-law, although not before his 1186 charter, and that he died there soon afterwards.  Verification of this suggestion must await the emergence of the source on which Laborde relied.  m ([1178]) as her first husband, MELISENDE [Agnes/Isabelle] de Coucy, daughter of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his first wife Agnes de Hainaut ([1165?]-).  The explanation for her different names in the sources cited below has not been found.  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Agnes married firstly "Radulpho comiti de Roci", after whose death childless she married secondly "comiti de Grandiprato, non considerata supradicta progenie de Lusceleborch"[564].  Vanderkindere explains the phrase “non considerata...” by suggesting that it indicates her consanguinity with her second husband who was the great-grandson of Conrad I Comte de Luxembourg, while she was Conrad I’s great-great granddaughter (Conrad’s daughter married Godefroi Comte de Namur, their daughter Alix married Baudouin IV Comte de Hainaut, whose daughter Agnes and her husband Raoul [I] Seigneur de Coucy were the parents of Mélisende/Agnès)[565].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" and his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[566].  Moret de la Fayole records that Raoul Seigneur de Coucy donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “sa femme Agnes et de ses filles Yoland et Milesonde”, by charter dated 1170[567].  The date of Mélisende/Agnès’s first marriage is suggested by the 1178 charter in which her first husband is recorded with an unnamed wife (see above), suggesting her birth in [1165] (bearing in mind her older sister’s birth earlier).  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard Comte de Roucy donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho...et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180[568].  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors’ donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[569].  She married secondly ([1188/91?]) as his first wife, Henri [III] Comte de Grandpré.  Her second marriage is confirmed by the Chronicon Hanoniense cited above.  In her translation of the Chronicon Hanoniense, Laura Napran says that Henri [III] married “Agnes’s daughter Isabelle, not Agnes herself[570], which appears chronologically impossible (no other document has yet been identified which gives the name “Isabelle” to “Mélusine/Agnès”).  Her first husband probably died in [1187/90] (see above), but the date of her second marriage is difficult to establish.  The chronology of the Grandpré family suggests that the late 1180s would already have been late for Henri [III]’s first marriage, when he would have been in his late thirties or even older (follow his hyperlink for a full discussion about estimating his age).  No indication has been found about Mélisende/Agnès’s date of death.  Raoul & his wife had [one child]: 

i)          [daughter ([1179?]-after 1181).  Europäische Stammtafeln states that Raoul had one daughter “1181 Nonne zu Plesnoy”[571].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  If the information is correct, the daughter was presumably sent to the monastery as a young child, presumably because she was disabled in some way.] 

b)         JEAN de Roucy (-1200)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Iohannem et Rodulfum" as sons of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife[572], although the documents cited her suggest that the name order is incorrect and that Jean was younger than his brother Raoul.  “Wischardus...comes de Roceio” confirmed his parents’ donation “à Sévigny” to Valroy, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Elisabeth...de ses fils Radulphe, Jean et Ebles et de ses autres fils et filles”, by charter dated 1168[573].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[574].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[575].  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[576]Comte de Roucy.  Moret de la Fayole records that “Jean” donated property to Vauclair, with the consent of “son frere Henri”, by charter dated 1190[577].  A copy of this charter has not been found.  Whether Jean was named “comte de Roucy” in the document has therefore not been verified.  One possibility is that Jean ruled the county during his brother’s supposed absence (discussed above), but this suggestion can only be tested against the original document.  “Jean comte de Roucy” donated “le bois appelé Fay” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Béatrice sa femme et d’Henri son frère”, by charter dated 1192[578]"Johannes comes Roceii et mater mea Elysabeth comitissa" confirmed the donations to Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne by "Henricus frater meus" on his deathbed and by "pater meus comes Wischardus…et frater meus Radulfus comes Roceii", with the consent of "uxoris nostre Beatricis", by charter dated 1196[579]m (before 1192) BEATRIX de Vignory, daughter of BARTHELEMY Seigneur de Vignory & his wife Elvide de Brienne (-[1201/Aug 1210]).  Jean comte de Roucy” donated “le bois appelé Fay” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Béatrice sa femme et d’Henri son frère”, by charter dated 1192[580]"Johannes comes Roceii et mater mea Elysabeth comitissa" confirmed the donations to Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne by "Henricus frater meus" on his deathbed and by "pater meus comes Wischardus…et frater meus Radulfus comes Roceii", with the consent of "uxoris nostre Beatricis", by charter dated 1196[581]"Beatrix vicecomitissa de Marolio" donated property to Saint-Martin d’Epernay, for the soul of “mariti mei Ioannis comitis”, by charter dated 1201[582].  "Galterus dominus de Wainori" donated property which had been “de feodo bonæ memoriæ Beatricis sororis meæ quondam comitissæ de Rossy”, by charter dated Aug 1210[583].  Jean had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress. 

i)          HUGUES (-after 1200).  Seigneur de Proviseux: Moret de la Fayole records that Jean Comte de Roucy left “un fils naturel...Hugues” to whom his father gave “la seigneurie de Proviseux, qui dépend de celle de Neuf-Châtel sur Aisne” in 1200, specifying that “l’acte de cette donation est dans la Chambre des Comptes de Paris[584]. 

c)         EBLES de Roucy (-after 1180).  “Wischardus...comes de Roceio” confirmed his parents’ donation “à Sévigny” to Valroy, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Elisabeth...de ses fils Radulphe, Jean et Ebles et de ses autres fils et filles”, by charter dated 1168[585].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[586]"Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[587]Canon at Reims 1180.  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[588].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[589]

d)         GUISCARD [Richard?] de Roucy (-after 1180).  Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[590].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[591]same person as...?  HENRI de Roucy (-1196).  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[592].  Moret de la Fayole records that Elisabeth [widow of Guiscard] certified that “Isambert chevalier de Neuf-Châtel” renounced claims over “la terre de Banne”, in the presence of “Henrici filii mei”, by charter dated 1183[593].  “Jean comte de Roucy” donated “le bois appelé Fay” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Béatrice sa femme et d’Henri son frère”, by charter dated 1192[594]"Johannes comes Roceii et mater mea Elysabeth comitissa" confirmed the donations to Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne by "Henricus frater meus" on his deathbed and by "pater meus comes Wischardus…et frater meus Radulfus comes Roceii", with the consent of "uxoris nostre Beatricis", by charter dated 1196[595]

e)         EUSTACHIE de Roucy (-before [1211])The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Eustachiam" as one of the three daughters of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife, specifying that she was wife of "Robertus de Petraponte" and mother of "comes…Iohannes"[596].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[597].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[598].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[599].  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[600].  “Robert de Pierrepont seigneur de Montaigu” approved donations to Foigny made by “Arnoul d’Arançot”, with the consent of “sa femme Eustachie”, by charter dated 1184[601].  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[602]Ctss de Roucy.  Her second marriage is confirmed as follows.  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[603].  Her second husband called himself Comte de Roucy in 1202: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[604]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant [Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy] ot trois femmes, la premiere...la contesse du Perche, la seconde...la contesse de Roucy", both marriages being childless[605].  While this source reverses the order of the marriages, it confirms that Enguerrand did at one time marry a comtesse de Roucy.  Du Chesne interprets the documentation differently, stating that Enguerrand married firstly "Beatrix de Vignory veuve de Jean I...comte de Roucy"[606].  The 1200 charter which names Eustachie indicates that Du Chesne cannot be correct and that Enguerrand’s wife was the widow of Robert de Pierrepont.  If the hypothesis shown here is correct, Enguerrand must have divorced Eustachie soon after the marriage.  She is named in a charter dated May 1208: "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth"[607], and Enguerrand’s second marriage is dated to [1204].  m firstly ([1180/19 Jun 1181]) ROBERT Seigneur de Pierrepont, son of HUGUES Seigneur de Pierrepont & his wife Clémence de Rethel (-before 1209).  m secondly (1200 or before, divorced [1200/04]) as his first wife, ENGUERRAND [III] Seigneur de Coucy, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy & his second wife Alix de Dreux (-1243, bur Foigny). 

f)          BEATRIX de Roucy (-after 1182).  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[608].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[609].  “Radulphe...comte de Roucy” confirmed his ancestors donations to Valroy, with the consent of “sa femme Melisende, de ses frères Jean, Ebles et Henri, et de ses sœurs Eustachie et Béatrice”, by charter dated 1182[610]

3.         EBLES de Roucy (-after 1154).  "Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[611]Hugues comte de Roucy et Wischard son fils” donated “les prés de Saint-Quentin...” to Valroy, with the consent of “l’épouse de Wischard, Hugues son frère et ses trois sœurs” and confirming the consent of “mon fils Eballus, en ce moment éloigé d’ici”, by undated charter[612]

4.         HUGUES de Roucy (-after 1170)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names “Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem patrem Ebali de Bosco” as sons of "comes Hugo Cholez" & his wife[613]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[614]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo comes de Roceio et Wichardus filius eius” donated property to Vauclair, with the support of “Hugo filius Hugonis comitis et tres sorores eius et Elizabeth uxor Wichardi”, by charter dated 1156[615].  “Wischard comte de Roucy” donated rights “sur le territoire de Montigny et de Liomes” to Valroy, with the consent of “la comtesse Elisabeth, ses enfants Radulphe, Jean, Ebles, Richard, Eustachie et Beatrice, et Hugues frère du comte”, by charter dated 1170[616].  Seigneur de Thony et du Bois. 

-        SEIGNEURS de THONY et du BOIS, de MANRE et de TERMES

5.         CLEMENCE de Roucy The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Wiscardus et ceteri filii et filie" as children of "Hugo cognomento Cholez", specifying that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned second) married "Guermundus de Chastelun" by whom she had "Guermundum"[617]"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[618].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one sister of "Wichardum novissimum et Hugonem" as mother of "Wormundi de Castellioni" but does not name her[619]m GUERMOND de Châtillon Seigneur de Sevigny, son of ---. 

6.         AVOIE de Roucy .  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  Moret de la Fayole names “Avoie de Roucy” as a younger daughter of Comte Hugues, specifying that she died childless, but does not cite the corresponding primary source[620]

7.         SIBYLLE de Roucy (-after 1154).  "Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[621]

8.         SARA [Agnes] de Roucy (-after 1154).  "Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[622].  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.   m GUY Seigneur de Soupir, son of ---. 

 

 

The following small family group has not been connected with the above family. 

 

1.         HILDUIN .  Comte de Roucy.  m ---.  The name of Hilduin's wife is not known.  Hilduin & his wife had one child: 

a)         EBLES de Roucy .  The Chronicon Lætiense names "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci"[623]m PETRONILLA, daughter of ---.  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the burial in this church of "domina Petronilla et…eius dominus Ebalus"[624].  Ebles & his wife had four children: 

i)          BEATRIX .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that Beatrix (mentioned first) married "Walterus de Fontanis" and by him was mother of "Walterus miles inclitus et Alis"[625].  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the burial in this church of "Beatrix de Fontanis [et] …Walterus filius eius, ad dexteram vero Beatrix de Trivire, filia domine Ade Letiensis, ad sinistram domini Ebali Henricus, miles…filius Willelmi de Birbaco.  Cuius Henrici frater Theodericus et uxor eius Basilia"[626]m GAUTHIER de Fontaine, son of ---. 

ii)         daughter .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that one (mentioned second, unnamed) married "Alardus de Castelin" and by him was mother of "Walterum et…Petronillam"[627].  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the burial in this church of "Heluidis de Castelin et…filius eius Walterus"[628]m ALARD de Châtelain, son of ---. 

iii)        daughter .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that one (mentioned third, unnamed) married "Henricus de Birbais" and by him was mother of "Willelmum"[629]m HENRI de Birbais, son of ---. 

iv)        daughter .  The Chronicon Lætiense refers to the four daughters of "Ebali, filius Hilduini comitis de Roci", specifying that one (mentioned fourth, unnamed) married "Willelmus de Alta-rippa" and by him was mother of "Philippum et Cononem.  De Philippo nati sunt Clarembaudus et Iacobus archidiaconus Laudunensis ex matrona nobili Anfilis"[630]m GUILLAUME de Hauterive, son of ---. 

 

 

 

C.      COMTES de ROUCY (PIERREPONT)

 

 

ROBERT de Pierrepont, son of HUGUES de Pierrepont & his wife Clémence de Rethel (-before 1200).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[631].  “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[632].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[633]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[634]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[635]Excommunicated 1183.  Seigneur de Montaigu: “Robert de Pierrepont seigneur de Montaigu” approved donations to Foigny made by “Arnoul d’Arançot”, with the consent of “sa femme Eustachie”, by charter dated 1184[636].  Seigneur de Pierrepont:  Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[637]Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[638].  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[639]Comte de Roucy.  The date of his death is estimated from the 1200 charter quoted below under his wife. 

m ([1180/19 Jun 1181]) as her first husband, EUSTACHIE de Roucy, daughter of GUISCARD Comte de Roucy & his wife Elisabeth de Mareuil (-[May 1208/1211]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Eustachiam" as one of the three daughters of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife, specifying that she was wife of "Robertus de Petraponte" and mother of "comes…Iohannes"[640].  Moret de la Fayole records that Guiscard donated revenue from “Planou” to Laon Saint-Martin, with the consent of “uxore mea comitissa Elizabeth et filiis nostris Radulpho, Joanne et Wichardo et filiabus Eustachia et Beatrix, et Millesenda uxore Radulphi”, by charter dated 1180, signed by “Ebali filii eius canonici Rhemensis[641].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[642].  “Robert de Pierrepont seigneur de Montaigu” approved donations to Foigny made by “Arnoul d’Arançot”, with the consent of “sa femme Eustachie”, by charter dated 1184[643].  “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[644].  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[645].  She succeeded her brother as Ctss de Roucy.  She married secondly (1200 or before, divorced [1200/04]) as his first wife, Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy.  The justification for this second marriage is as follows.  "Ingelrannus dominus Cociaci" confirmed property of the church of Laon by charter dated 1200 in the presence of "uxore mea Eustachia, et fratribus meis Thoma et Roberto"[646].  Her second husband called himself Comte de Roucy in 1202: "Ingelrannus de Couciaco comes Rociaci" donated property to Bassoles lés Anlers, with the consent of “Thomas et Robertus fratres nostri”, by charter dated Jun 1202[647]The Lignages de Coucy (written in 1303) records that "Enguerrant [Enguerrand [III] Seigneur de Coucy] ot trois femmes, la premiere...la contesse du Perche, la seconde...la contesse de Roucy", both marriages being childless[648].  While this source reverses the order of the marriages, it confirms that Enguerrand did at one time marry a comtesse de Roucy.  Du Chesne interprets the documentation differently, stating that Enguerrand married firstly "Beatrix de Vignory veuve de Jean I...comte de Roucy"[649].  The 1200 charter which names Eustachie indicates that Du Chesne cannot be correct and that Enguerrand’s wife was the widow of Robert de Pierrepont.  If the hypothesis shown here is correct, Enguerrand must have divorced Eustachie soon after the marriage.  She is named in a charter dated May 1208: "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth"[650], and Enguerrand’s second marriage is dated to [1204]. 

Robert & his wife had five children: 

1.         BEATRIX de Pierrepont (before 1191-).  “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[651]

2.         JEAN [II] de Pierrepont (-killed in battle Flanders 1251)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Eustachiam" as one of the three daughters of "Wichardum novissimum" & his wife, specifying that she was wife of "Robertus de Petraponte" and mother of "comes…Iohannes"[652].  His absence from the 1191 charter cited above suggests that he was born after that date.  “Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[653]Comte de Roucy.  "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[654]"Johannes comes de Rocey et dominus de Petrapontis" exchanged property at Evergnicourt with Saint-Hubert, Ardenne by charter dated Sep 1225[655]m firstly (before 1221, divorced 1235) ISABELLE de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux & his second wife Yolande de Coucy (1188-after Sep 1242).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one of the seven daughters (mentioned second in the list) of "comiti de Brana Roberto" and his wife Yolande as the wife of "comes Iohannes de Roceio", specifying that their marriage was dissolved because they were "in quarto grado coniuncto"[656]Vicomtesse de Mareil.  "Ioannes comes Rociaci" acknowledged obligations to "Theobaldo comiti Campaniæ" which arose "postquam inter se et...uxorem Elizabeth de Brana auctoritate ecclesiæ divorcium fuerit separatim" by charter dated 1235[657]m secondly ([1236/15 Dec 1241]) MARIE de Dammartin, daughter of SIMON de Dammartin Comte d'Aumâle & his wife Marie Ctss de Ponthieu (-after 1279).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to, but does not name, the four daughters of "comes de Pontivo Symon" (in order) as the wives of "rex Castelle de Hispanie Fernandus…natu maiorem filius vicecomitis de Castro Araudi…comitis de Augo…comes de Roceio"[658].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Maria comitissa Rociaci et domina Petro-ponti tutrix...Joannis filii mei, quem suscepi ex marito meo quondam comite Rociaci” donated property to Cuissac by charter dated 1256[659].  Jean [II] & his second wife had two children: 

a)         JEAN [III] de Roucy (-1284 or after, bur Val-le-Roy)Moret de la Fayole records that “Maria comitissa Rociaci et domina Petro-ponti tutrix...Joannis filii mei, quem suscepi ex marito meo quondam comite Rociaci” donated property to Cuissac by charter dated 1256[660]Comte de RoucyMoret de la Fayole cites documents dated 1260 (with his wife “la Comtesse Elisabeth”), 1262, 26 Nov 1263, Jun 1265, Dec 1269, 1270 (with his wife), 1274, Nov 1279, 1284 in which Jean [III] was named (citing “chartes de Val-le-Roy”, no precise citation references)[661]m (before 1260) ISABELLE de Mercœur, daughter of BERAUD [VI] Seigneur de Mercœur & his wife Beatrix de Bourbon (-after 1270, bur Val-le-Roy).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  Jean [III] & his wife had one child: 

i)          JEAN [IV] de Roucy (-before [Jun] 1302, bur Val-le-Roy).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Comte de Roucy

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b)         --- de Roucy ([1240/51?]-).  Moret de la Fayole and Père Anselme record her parentage and marriage (no sources cited)[662]The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  m JEAN [II] de Garlande Seigneur de Possesse, son of ANSEAU [IV] de Garlande Seigneur de Tournan & his wife Alix --- (-before 1287). 

3.         HELISENDE de Pierrepont (-after 1192).  Robert seigneur de Pierrepont” donated “la dîme...à Evercaigne” to Foigny, with the consent of “Eustachie sa femme, Jean, Hélissende leurs enfants”, by charter dated 1192[663]

4.         ALIX de Pierrepont"Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[664]

5.         ELISABETH de Pierrepont (-after [1213/15]).  "Eustachia comitissa Rosceii" confirmed the agreement made by "domnus Airardus de Brana" with the abbot of Reims Saint-Rémy concerning "feodo vicecomitatu Condati super Maternam", with the consent of "filium meum Ioannem et…duabus filiabus meis Aalis et Helizabeth", by charter dated May 1208[665].  "Robertus de Cociaco dominus de Pinon et…uxor mea Elizabeth" granted rights to Pinon, with the consent of "fratrum meorum Ingelramni domini Marlæ et Thomæ domini de Veruino", by charter dated May 1213[666]m as his first wife, ROBERT de Coucy Seigneur de Pinon, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle & his second wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-after Mar 1234). 

 

 

JEAN [IV] de Roucy, son of JEAN [III] Comte de Roucy & his wife Isabelle de Mercœur (-before [Jun] 1302, bur Val-le-Roy).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Comte de Roucy.  His claim for his wife’s share in the Dreux inheritance in [1292] is discussed below under his wife.  The Chronique Artésienne records “…Li quens de Roussi…” among those in the French army in 1297[667].  Moret de la Fayole records that Jean [IV] “mourut en l’an 1302, ou peu devant; car en cette année-là la Comtesse Jeanne fit une transaction avec les Religieux de S. Martin de Tomenau sur la Jurisdiction de Chantrud; elle prit qualité de veuve, et elle promit de faire ratifier à son fils, quand il seroit an âge” (citing “Invent. des tîtr” [=”Inventaire des tîtres de la Maison”[668]], no precise citation reference)[669].  As noted below under his wife, Duchesne appears to refer to the same document which he dates to Jun 1302.  Moret de la Fayole records his burial “à la Val-le-Roy”, where his epitaph records “Joannis Rociaci Comitis[670].  A different possibility for his death is presented by L'Art de Vérifier des Dates, which says that “une ancienne chronique” (citing “Mss de Dupuy, n. 387”) records that Jean IV “fut navré, l’an 1304, dans une bataille et déconfiture où le roi Philippe le Bel estoit présent”, noting that the battle in question “est celle de Mons-en-Puelles” [old name for Mons-en-Pévèle] and that “Le comte Jean en rapporta des blessures dont il mourut à Braine peu de jours après son retour[671].  The explanation for reconciling this report with the [Jun] 1302 charter has not been found. 

m (before 1292) as her first husband, JEANNE de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT IV Comte de Dreux [Capet] & his wife Beatrix Ctss de Montfort (-11 Apr 1325, bur Saint Dominique near Montargis).  The Livre du Lignage de Dreux et de Coucy records that “la seconde fille du Conte Robert et de la Contesse de Montfort…Jehanne” married “au Conte de Roucy”, by whom she had “deux filz et deux filles”, and secondly “Monsieur Jehan de Bar filz du Conte Thibaut[672].  Père Anselme records her first marriage “avant 1292” (no source cited)[673].  Duchesne records that the date of the marriage is not known but that, as a consequence Jean [IV] Comte de Roucy “fist demande à Jean Comte de Dreux de la sixiesme partie de la Comté de Dreux, et des terres de Braine, de Coahon, et de Colonges, comme eschuës à Jeanne de Dreux son espouse seur du mesme Comte, de la succession de Robert jadis Comte de Dreux leur pere” and Jean [II] Comte de Dreux “fut condamné par Arrest rendu au Parlement de la Pentecoste 1292”, ratified Dec 1292 by her brother Comte Jean [II] (no source citations)[674].  Moret de la Fayole records that in 1302 “la Comtesse Jeanne fit une transaction avec les Religieux de S. Martin de Tomenau sur la Jurisdiction de Chantrud; elle prit qualité de veuve, et elle promit de faire ratifier à son fils, quand il seroit an âge” (citing “Invent. des tîtr”, no precise citation reference)[675]Duchesne appears to refer to the same agreement when he records that “Jeanne de Dreux estant veuve de Jean IV Comte de Roucy son espoux…composa avec l’Abbé de S. Martin de Tournay pour la justice de certains lieux proches de Semblecourt. Ce qu’elle promist faire agreer à Jean de Roucy son fils aisné quand il seroit en âge, par Lettres passées au mois de Juin 1302” (no source citation)[676]Moret de la Fayole records that “Elle transigea encore avec l’Archevêque de Rheims, sur les immunités de Chaufour en 1304, et avec les Religieuses d’Ori, sur le moulin d’Aisne” (citing “Invent. des tîtr”, no precise citation reference)[677].  She married secondly (May 1304) Jean de Bar Seigneur de PuisayeMoret de la Fayole records her second marriage “au mois de May l’an 1304” (no source cited), noting that “l’n trouve un accomodement fait entre Jean V son fils, et les Religieux de saint Martin de Laon, sur la Jursidiction de Saumoncy 12 Sep 1306, dans lequel elle paroist authorisée de Jean de Bar son mary, pour ratifier cet accomodement” (citing )[678]Père Anselme records her second marriage “avant 1307” (no source cited)[679], presumably dating the marriage from the following document: Duchesne records that Jeanne “Avec lequel [=Jean de Bar] s’estant trouvée à Bologne l’an 1307, le Samedy devant la Chandeleur, ils reprinrent ensemble de Jean Comte de Dreux frere de la Comtesse Jeanne les terres de Longueville et de Quincy en Tardenois, lesquelles feu Thibaut Comte de Bar tenoit de luy au jour de son decés…” (no source citation)[680]Heiress of la Suze, inherited from her mother[681].  Ctss de Braine.  Van Kerrebrouck records that her brother “Jean II lui donna les terres de Ville et de Quincy en Tardenois, à Boulogne Jan 1308”, that on the death of her mother “elle hérita des château et châtellenie de Rochefort-en-Yvelines 9 Mar 1311” and “le comté de Braine en 1323” (no source citations)[682]The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property “mes villes de la conté de Rouci...[à] Jehan mon fil...” and to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[683]The epitaph, on her tomb “retrouvée en 1897, à Saint Dominique, près Montargis”, records the burial of “dame Jehanne de Dreux, comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisaye et Rochefort” who died 11 Apr 1324[684], the year presumably O.S. in light of her testament. 

Jean [IV] & his wife had four children: 

1.         JEAN [V] de Roucy (-killed in battle Crécy [25/26] Aug 1346, bur Val-le-Roy).  He was named in the 1302 charter of his mother, cited above.  Comte de Roucy.  The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property “mes villes de la conté de Rouci...[à] Jehan mon fil...[685]Moret de la Fayole cites documents dated 1319, 1320, Jul 1320, 1324, Dec 1324, 1325, 1327, 1331, 1338, Feb 1339, 1340, 21 Mar 1340, 21 Dec 1344 in which Jean [V] was named (various sources cited, but with abbreviated citation references)[686].  Moret de la Fayole records his death at Crécy (no source cited), and his epitaph which records the burial of “Jean Comte de Roucy et de Braine” who died 1346[687]m (1308) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Bommiers, widow of JEAN [IV] de Bouville Seigneur de Milly-en-Gâtinais, daughter of THIBAUT de Bommiers dit de Blaison Seigneur de Bommiers & his first wife Marguerite de Villebéon (-after Nov 1350).  Letters dated 1293, relating to the marriage of "Jean de Boville fils de Monsieur Hue de Boville" and “Damoiselle Marguerite de Bomés fille de Monsieur Thibaut de Bomés Seigneur de Mirebel et de...Marguerite iadis sa femme”, record that “Messires Gautier Li Chambellans ayol de ladite Damoiselle” was receiving revenue from her inheritance[688]Her parentage and second marriage are confirmed by an order of Parlement dated 1323 relating to his daughter “la comtesse de Roucy...cum dicta comitissa fuerit filia et hæres prime uxoris defuncti Theobaldi...dotata...de castro de Montefalconis[689].  A charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[690]An epitaph records the burial of “Marguerite, fille de…Thibaut de Baumez et de…Marguerite, fille au Comte de Comminges [error?], jadis Comtesse desdits lieux, et femme dudit Comte Jean…” who died 1368[691]Jean [V] & his wife had seven children: 

a)         JEAN de Roucy (-[1326/28]).  His parentage is indicated by the 27 Dec 1329 charter cited below under his wife.  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  Seigneur de Picquigny, Vidame d’Amiens, de iure uxorism (Dec 1323) as her first husband, MARGUERITE de Picquigny Vidamesse d’Amiens, daughter of RENAUD de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Jeanne d’Eu (-after 4 Mar 1377).  She married secondly (Jul 1328) Gauthier de Noyers Seigneur d’Eclaron.  Her parentage and first and second marriages are confirmed by the charter dated 27 Dec 1329 under which Gauthier de Noyers agreed her dower from her first husband with Robert Comte de Roucy[692]She married thirdly ([29 Jul 1357/14 Nov 1359]) as his second wife, Raoul Seigneur de Raineval et de Pierrepont. 

b)         ROBERT [II] de Roucy (-1364)Comte de RoucyA charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[693]The marriage contract between "Roberti d’Estouteville domini de Vallemonte" and “Carolum dominum de Montemorenciaco...damoiselle Marguerite fille...”, dated Jan 1351 (O.S.), names “Charles seigneur de Montmorency son pere, monsieur Robert Comte de Roussy, monsieur Simon de Roussy son frere...” as her guarantors[694]m (after 1329) as her second husband, MARIE d’Enghien, widow of ROBERT [V] Comte de Dreux et de Braine, daughter of GAUTHIER [II] Seigneur d'Enghien & his wife Yolande de Flandre (-after Oct 1378)A charter dated 23 Apr 1321 records an agreement between “Robert Comte de Dreux et de Braine, advouez de S. Walery et Marie de Enguien comtesse desdits lieux sa compaigne et espouse” and the abbey of Saint-Valéry[695]The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not been identified.  Robert & his wife had one child: 

i)          ISABELLE de Roucy (-after 1396)Dame de Roucy.  Moret de la Fayole records that Isabelle alienated her lands to pay her debts by consent of the king granted 11 Nov 1378 and that Louis Duc d’Anjou had bought the county of Roucy by 1383[696]m (17 May 1365) LOUIS de Namur Seigneur de Peteghem et de Bailleul, son of JEAN [I] Marquis de Namur [Flandre-Dampierre] & his second wife Marie d'Artois [Capet] ([1325]-[1378/86])

c)         HUGUES de Roucy (-[9 Jul 1349/Jan 1352])Seigneur de Pierrepont.  Vidame de Laonnais, Seigneur de Tournenfuye.  Hugues presumably died before Jan 1351 (O.S.), the date of the marriage contract quoted above in which his brothers Robert and Simon were named as guarantors.  m (after Aug 1336) as her second husband, MARIE de Clacy Dame de Pontarcy, widow of HUGUES de Châtillon Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thiérache, daughter of BAUDOUIN Seigneur de Clacy Vidame de Laon & his wife --- (-after 15 May 1352).  Heiress of the Vidamé de Laon and of Clacy.   Duchesne records her parentage and two marriages[697].  She received Pontarcy as dower from her first marriage, and a settlement by way of dower after the death of her second husband by decision dated 15 May 1352[698]

d)         SIMON de Roucy (-Bois-lez-Roucy 18 Feb 1392, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Braine.  Seigneur de Tournenfuye et de Villebéon.  A charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[699]Comte de Roucy

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e)         BEATRIX de Roucy (-after 1348)The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[700]Dame de Bommiers.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  m LOUIS [II] Comte de Sancerre, son of JEAN [II] Comte de Sancerre & his first wife Louise de Bommiers (-killed in battle Crécy 26 Aug 1346). 

f)          JEANNE de Roucy (-10 Jan 1361, bur Abbaye du Val)The marriage contract between "monsieur Charles seigneur de Montmorency chevalier" and “damoiselle Ieanne de Roucy fille de...monsieur Iean comte de Roucy et de Braine et de...madame Marguerite de Bomez sa femme” is dated 26 Jan 1341[701]Dame de Blason et de Chimeliers-en-Anjou.  An epitaph at Val abbey records the death 10 Jan 1361 of “madame Ieanne de Roussy iadis fame de monseigneur Charles sire de Montmorency[702]m (contract Paris 26 Jan 1341) as his second wife, CHARLES [I] Seigneur de Montmorency, son of JEAN Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Jeanne de Calletot (-11 Sep 1381, bur Notre-Dame du Val). 

g)         THIBAUT de Roucy (-[1328/30]).  Canon at Chartres.  Canon at Cambrai. 

2.         son .  The Livre du Lignage de Dreux et de Coucy records that “la seconde fille du Conte Robert et de la Contesse de Montfort…Jehanne” married “au Conte de Roucy”, by whom she had “deux filz et deux filles”, and secondly “Monsieur Jehan de Bar filz du Conte Thibaut[703]

3.         MARIE de Roucy (-1343 or after).  Her parentage is indicated by the charter dated 12 Mar 1312 under which "...Ioannes comes de Roceyo et Guillelmus de Castrovillani canonicus Cathalaunensis...carnales amici de...Ioannis et Guillelmi liberorum quondam Ioannis de Castrovillani militis defuncti minorum annis...ex parte patris et matris propinqua linea consanguinitatis iunguntur" resisted the claim by “Guido, Simon, Robertus et Hugo de Castrivillani fratres patrui eorundem minorum” and swore to perform their duties[704]"Marie de Roussy iadis femme dudit monseigneur Iehan et mere desdiz enfans et Huguenin frere iadis dudit monseigneur Iehan" agreed the division of territories under the succession of “Simon de Chastelvillain iadis seigneur d’Arc pere de moy Huguenin dessusdit, de dame Marie de Flandres ma mere, de...monseigneur Iehan de Chastelvillain iadis evesque de Chaalons mon oncle...de monseigneur Iehan iadis seigneur de Chastelvillain ayeul de moy Huguenin, de damoiselle Aalis sa fille ma tante et de Guiot, Simon et Robert mes freres clercs” by charter dated Aug 1313[705].  The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[706]"Iean de Chasteauvillain et Guillaume son frere" approved the testament ofMarie de Roucy dame de Chasteauvillain leur mere” dated 1343[707]m JEAN [II] Seigneur de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [II] Seigneur de Châteauvillain & his wife Marie de Flandre (-1312).  

4.         BEATRIX de Roucy (-7 Nov 1328, bur Angers Cordeliers).  Philippe IV King of France ratified the marriage contract between “Amauri seigneur de Craon” and "Jehan conte de Roucy...damoiselle Béatrix seur dudit comte" by charter dated Oct 1312[708]Heiress of la Suze, inherited from her mother[709].  The testament of Jehanne de Dreux comtesse de Roucy et dame de Puisoye”, dated 1 Oct 1324, bequeathed property to “ma fille de Chastiauvillain [...Marie]...ma fille de Craon [...Beatrix]...ma fille de Rouci la Comtesse...ma fille Beatrix fille Jehan mon fil[710]A manuscript of the Cordeliers d’Angers lists members of the Craon family buried "dans la chapelle Saint-Jean", including “Madame Béatrix de Roucy dame de Craon et seconde femme de monsieur Almaury sire de Craon” who died “en l’abit des frères” 7 Nov 1328[711]m (contract Oct 1312) as his second wife, AMAURY [III] Seigneur de Craon, son of MAURICE [V] Seigneur de Craon & his wife Mathilde Berthout van Mechelen ([1280]-26 Jan 1333, bur Angers Cordeliers).  

 

 

SIMON de Roucy, son of JEAN [V] Comte de Roucy et de Braine & his wife Marguerite de Bommiers (-Bois-lez-Roucy 18 Feb 1392, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  A charter dated Nov 1350, in the presence of “dictorum comitisse et comitis de Roucyaco eius filii” and “dicte domine de Boutavant, suo et dicti mariti sui nomine”, confirms an earlier agreement between “madame Marguerite de Bomez contesse de Roucy et de Brayne [...monseigneur le conte de Roucy et monseigneur Symon de Roucy, ses enfants]” and “monseigneur Jehan de Meleun seigneur de Tancarville [...à cause de madame Jehanne Crespin sa fame...madame Marie Crespin dame de Boutavant] et monseigneur Jehan de Chalon seigneur de Boutevant, à cause de leurs fames, [filles de la feue] dame d’Estrepigny, suer de la dite contesse” concerning “Bomez, de Mirabel, de Blason et de Montfaucon[712]The marriage contract between "Roberti d’Estouteville domini de Vallemonte" and “Carolum dominum de Montemorenciaco...damoiselle Marguerite fille...”, dated Jan 1351 (O.S.), names “Charles seigneur de Montmorency son pere, monsieur Robert Comte de Roussy, monsieur Simon de Roussy son frere...” as her guarantors[713]Comte de Braine.  Seigneur de Tournenfuye et de Villebéon.  Comte de RoucyMoret de la Fayole records that Simon puchased the county of Roucy from Louis Duc d’Anjou 5 Jun 1385, confirmed in 1387 and 1390[714].  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved which records the burial of “Simon conte de Roucy et de Brainne” who died 18 Feb 1392 “en son chastel du Bois des Roucy” and of “Marie de Chastillon contesse des dis lieus et feme dudit...conte” who died 1 Apr 1396[715].  An epitaph records the burial of “Simon Comte de Roucy et de Braine” who died 9 Feb 1392 “en son Châtel du Bois lez Roucy[716]

m MARIE de Châtillon Dame de Pontarcy, daughter of HUGUES de Châtillon-sur-Marne Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thiérache & his wife Marie de Clacy (-11 Apr 1396, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[717].  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved which records the burial of “Simon conte de Roucy et de Brainne” who died 18 Feb 1392 “en son chastel du Bois des Roucy” and of “Marie de Chastillon contesse des dis lieus et feme dudit...conte” who died 11 Apr 1396[718].  She is named in the epitaph of her son Simon cited below. 

Simon & his wife had five children (Europäische Stammtafeln shows Hugues de Roucy & his wife Marie de Clacy as parents of the following children[719], but other secondary sources show Simon & his wife as their parents which is more plausible[720]): 

1.         HUGUES de Roucy (-25 Oct 1395, bur Braine Saint-Yved)Comte de Braine.  Comte de RoucySeigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse: Duchesne records that “[Nanteuil-la-Fosse] escheut à Hugues de Roucy”, brother of Marguerite, widow of Gauthier [V] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse (see below), citing a lawsuit in 1391 in which “Baudon de Pacy” claimed holding “une terre appellée le Plessey, qu’il tenoit en foy du chastel de Nanteuil” from “Messire Hue de Roucy...[le] nouvel Seigneur[721]An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved records the burial of “Hue conte de Roucy et de Braynne” who died 25 Oct 1395 and of “Blanche de Coucy contesse desdiz lieux et feme dudit Monseigneur le conte” who died 24 Feb 1410[722]m BLANCHE de Coucy Dame de Montmirail, daughter of RAOUL de Coucy Seigneur de Montmirail & his wife Jeanne d’Harcourt (-[24 Feb] after 1431, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Duchesne records that Blanche de Coucy “bailla son denombremont au Roy pour la Seigneurie de Nanteuil” 12 Apr 1398[723]A charter dated 19 May 1412 records "Blanche de Coucy fille de feu Raoul de Coucy chevalier et veuve de Hue de Roussy chevalier, chambellan du Roy" selling property “aux executeurs du testament de Guy de Bray Maistre des Comptes du duc de Bourgongen à Dijon[724].  A register of the Parlement de Paris dated 1425 records "Ioannes de Mailliaco episcopus et comes Noviomensis” aganst “Blancham de Couciaco comitissam Rouciaci et Brenæ, ac dominam de Montemirabili, sororem et heredem defuncti Radulfi de Couciaco quondam eius fratris[725].  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved records the burial of “Hue conte de Roucy et de Braynne” who died 25 Oct 1395 and of “Blanche de Coucy contesse desdiz lieux et feme dudit Monseigneur le conte” who died 24 Feb 1410 [year incorrect in view of the following document][726].  Duchesne records that in 1431 Blanche "Dame de Montmirail” donated property to “l’abbaye de la Grace sous Montmirail” (no source citation)[727].  Hugues [II] & his wife had six children: 

a)         JEAN [VI] de Roucy (-killed in battle Azincourt 25 Oct 1415, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Comte de Braine.  Comte de Roucy.  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved records the burial of “Iehan conte de Roucy et de Braine” who died 25 Oct 1415 “en la bataille dazicourt deles Blangi en Ternois[728]m (1398) as her first husband, ISABELLE de Montagu Dame de Marcoussis et de Germaine, daughter of JEAN de Montagu Seigneur de Montagu & his wife Jacqueline de la Grange (-Lyon Oct 1429, bur Marcoussis, monastère des Célestins)The Geste des Nobles records that “messire Jehan de Montagu...sa première fille” married “le conte de Brayne et de Roucy[729]Duchesne records that "Elizabeth de Montaigu Comtesse de Roucy et de Braine, Dame de Montaigu, de Marcoussis et de Germaines” swore homage “à cause de sa terre de Germaines, tenue en fief du chasteau de Nanteuil” to “Bonne de Bar Comtesse de Liney et de S. Pol”, dated to after 1398[730].  She married secondly ([1416]) Pierre de Bourbon Seigneur de Préaux.  Moret de la Fayole records her testament dated 16 Oct 1420 at Lyon (no details, no source citation), and the date of  her death and place of burial[731].  Jean [VI] & his wife had one child: 

i)          JEANNE de Roucy (-3 Sep 1459, bur Dreux).  Dame de Roucy et de Braine.  The county of Roucy passed to her descendants.  m (Braine 1414) ROBERT Seigneur de Commercy, son of AME Seigneur de Commercy & his wife Marie de Châteauvillain Dame de Louvois (-Louvois [1464/65], bur Commercy). 

b)         HUGUES de Roucy (-18 Aug 1412).  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved records the burial of “Hue de Roucy fils de Mons Hue conte de Roucy et de Braine et de Madame Blanche” who died 1412 “le dimenche xviii jour daoust”, his tomb erected by “Monsr Iehan de Roucy euesque et duc de Laon conte dauisy pers de France[732]

c)         MARGUERITE de Roucy (-after 14 Apr 1419).  A continuation of the Chronica Jacobi de Aquis records that "Thomas", son of "Frederico…Marchese di Salucio", married "Margarita figlia del Conte Derosi"[733].  The contract of marriage between "Marchese Tomaso di Saluzzo" and "la damigella Margarita de Roucij" naming "il Vescovo di Laon ed il Conte di Braime Zio e fratello rispettivamente della detta Margarita" is dated 17 Jul 1403[734].  Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by an epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved which records the burial of [her son] “Charles de Sallusses ainsné fils de...Thomas marquis de Sallusses et de Madame Marguerite de Roucy fille de...conte Hue et de Madame Blanche de Coucy” who died 8 Sep 1406[735]m (contract 27 Jul 1403) TOMASO III Marchese di Saluzzo, son of FEDERIGO I Marchese di Saluzzo & his first wife Marguerite de la Tour du Pin [Viennois] (-after 5 Oct 1416, bur Saluzzo Santo Domingo). 

d)         JEANNE de Roucy (-after 31 May 1445).  The marriage contract of "François d’Albret seigneur de Saincte Bazeilhe" and "damoyselle Jehanne de Roucy" is dated 21 May 1405[736].  A charter dated 1445 records the agreement between "messire Charles sire d’Albret" and "dame Jehanne de Roucy" concerning the succession of "Françoys d’Albret seigneur de Saincte Bazeilhe"[737]m (contract 21 May 1405) FRANÇOIS d’Albret Seigneur de Sainte-Bazeille, son of BERARD d’Albret & his wife Hélène de Caumont (-[21 Mar 1440/31 May 1445]). 

e)         BLANCHE de Roucy (-22 Aug 1421, bur Vendôme, église Saint-Georges)Père Anselme records her marriage contract dated 21 Dec 1414, the date of her death and place of burial, without citing the primary sources on which the information is based[738]m (contract 21 Dec 1414) as his first wife, LOUIS de Bourbon Comte de Vendôme, son of JEAN I de Bourbon Comte de la Marche et de Vendôme & his wife Catherine Ctss de Vendôme et de Castres ([1375/76]-Tours 21 Dec 1446, bur Vendôme, église Saint-Georges ([1375/76]-Tours 21 Dec 1446, bur Vendôme, église Saint-Georges)

f)          ISABELLE de Roucy (-9 Oct 1399, bur Soissons Notre-Dame).  Nun: an epitaph at Notre-Dame de Soissons records the burial of “dame Isabel de Roucy nonnain et tresoriere de leglise de Ceans...fille de feu Mr Hue conte de Roucy et de Braine et de Made Blanche de Coucy” who died 9 Oct 1399[739]

2.         JEAN de Roucy (-12 Jun 1418, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Archdeacon at Meaux.  Bishop of Laon 1385. 

3.         SIMON de Roucy (-25 Jun 1402, bur Braine Saint-Yved).  Seigneur de Pont-Arcy.  An epitaph at Braine Saint-Yved records the burial of “Monsr Simon de Roucy seigneur de Pontarcy fils de Monsr Simon conte de Roucy et de Braine et de Madame Marie de Chastillon” who died 1412 “le dimenche aps le S. Ieha baptis[740].  The primary source which confirms his death in 1402 has not been identified. 

4.         MARIE de Roucy (-1416).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.  m JACQUES d’Enghien Seigneur d’Havré et de Fagnolles, son of GERARD [II] d’Enghien Châtelain de Mons, Seigneur d’Havré & his wife Jeanne de Barbançon Dame de Villiers-Sire-Nicole et de Braine-l’Alleud (-15 Dec 1427). 

5.         MARGUERITE de Roucy (-Mar 1384, bur Mont-Saint-Quentin or Péronne Saint-Foursy)Duchesne records her parentage and three marriages, noting her death in Mar 1384, the death of her third husband in Sep 1385, and the burial of both “en l’abbaye de Mont Sainct Quentin[741]An epitaph at Péronne Saint-Foursy records the burial of “Hues sire de Clary et de Perrumont, jadis chevalier, chambelene du Roy” who died Sep 1385 and of “Margueritte de Roussy, jadis dame de Clary et de Nantitel sa femme” who died 1380 [error of year?][742]m firstly GAUCHER [V] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse et de Drony, son of ERARD [III] Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his wife Alix de Thianges (-after 1363).  m secondly ROBERT de Pinon Seigneur de Pinon, son of --- (-1377).  m thirdly HUGUES de Clary, son of --- (-Sep 1385, bur Mont Saint-Quentin or Péronne Saint-Foursy). 

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de PIERREPONT

 

 

Two brothers: 

1.         ROBERT de Pierrepont (-after 1036).  "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport, and confirmed donations, including the donation of “decimam de Cuvervilla quam tenebant de Oylardo domino eiusdem ville” made by “Roberti de Petreponte et Godefridi fratris eius”, by a charter dated 1036[743]

2.         GODEFROI (-after 1036).  "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport, and confirmed donations, including the donation of “decimam de Cuvervilla quam tenebant de Oylardo domino eiusdem ville” made by “Roberti de Petreponte et Godefridi fratris eius”, by a charter dated 1036[744]

 

 

1.         ROBERT de Pierrepont .  "Rotbti de Pet-ponte, Willmi filii Godefredi de Pet-pont…Radulfi filii Radulfi, Godefredi de Pet-ponte, Nigelli generi Godefredi, Hunfredi" subscribed the charter dated to [1107/18] under which William de Warenne Earl of Surrey donated lands to Lewes priory[745]

 

2.         GODEFROI de Pierrepont .  "Rotbti de Pet-ponte, Willmi filii Godefredi de Pet-pont…Radulfi filii Radulfi, Godefredi de Pet-ponte, Nigelli generi Godefredi, Hunfredi" subscribed the charter dated to [1107/18] under which William de Warenne Earl of Surrey donated lands to Lewes priory[746]m ---.  The name of Godefroi’s wife is not known.  Godefroi & his wife had two children: 

a)         WILLIAM de Pierrepont .  "Rotbti de Pet-ponte, Willmi filii Godefredi de Pet-pont…Radulfi filii Radulfi, Godefredi de Pet-ponte, Nigelli generi Godefredi, Hunfredi" subscribed the charter dated to [1107/18] under which William de Warenne Earl of Surrey donated lands to Lewes priory[747]

b)         --- de Pierrepont .  "Rotbti de Pet-ponte, Willmi filii Godefredi de Pet-pont…Radulfi filii Radulfi, Godefredi de Pet-ponte, Nigelli generi Godefredi, Hunfredi" subscribed the charter dated to [1107/18] under which William de Warenne Earl of Surrey donated lands to Lewes priory[748]m NEEL [Nigel], son of ---. 

 

 

1.         INGOBRAND de Pierrepont (-[before 1113]).  Seigneur de Pierrepontm ---.  The name of Ingobrand’s wife is not known.  Ingobrand & his wife had one child: 

a)         ROGER de Pierrepont (-after 1113).  The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that the church of Bucilly appointed “Rogero filio Ingobrandi domini de Petroponte” to “advocatiam hominum sancti Petri Buciliensis” in 1113[749].  Seigneur de Montaigu en Laonnois.  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[750]m ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-after 2 Nov 1117).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[751].  Roger & his wife had four children: 

i)          GUILLAUME de Pierrepont (-before 1149).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[752]

ii)         GUY de Pierrepont (-1147).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[753].  A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of property “in...villa Petreponti contigua, Saviaco” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Robertus de Petreponte”, with the consent of “uxore fratrum suorum Widonis et Walteri[754]Bishop of Châlons 1143.  The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1143 of “Gaufridus episcopus” and the succession of “Wido[755]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1143 of "apud Cathalaunem…episcopo Gaufrido" and the succession of "Guido de Monteacuto"[756]The Continuatio Praemonstratensis of Sigebert's Chronica records in 1143 the succession of “Guido” as “Catalauni...episcopus” after the death of “Gifrido[757].  The Continuatio Praemonstratensis of Sigebert's Chronica records in 1146 the death of “Guido Catalaunis episcopo[758]The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1147 of “Wido episcopus” and the succession of “Bartolomæus[759]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1147 of "Guido Cathalaunensis episcopus" and the succession of "Bartholomeus"[760]

iii)        ROBERT de Pierrepont (-after 23 Dec 1136).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Rogerus de Monte-acuto” donated property “in territorio Salmonei” to Laon Saint-Martin by charter dated 2 Nov 1117, subscribed by “Ermengarde uxoris eius cum filiis suis Widone clerico, Willelmo et Roberto laicis[761].  A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of property “in...villa Petreponti contigua, Saviaco” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Robertus de Petreponte”, with the consent of “uxore fratrum suorum Widonis et Walteri[762].  Seigneur de Montaigu: he is named “Roberto de Monteacuto” by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois Fontaines when recording the marriages of his wife (see below).  Moret de la Fayole records that “Robert de Montaigu son frère” donated property to Laon Saint-Vincent for “Gautier dit Sans-terre” by charter dated 23 Dec 1136[763].  The necrology of Brogne records the death "III Kal Sep" of "Robertus vir nobilis Petrepontis dominus"[764].  It is not known to which Robert de Pierrepont this entry refers.  m as her first husband, ELISABETH de Mareuil Dame de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne, daughter of JEAN Vicomte de Mareuil Seigneur de Neufchâtel-sur-Aisne & his wife --- (-1207 or after).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Wichardum novissimum" as "relicta Roberti de Monteacuto…filia Iohannis vicecomitis de Marvellis" but does not name her[765].  She married secondly Guiscard Comte de Roucy"Hugo comes Roceiensis" donated property to "ecclesiam…in Eberneicurte", for the soul of "uxoris Richildis pie memorie", with the consent of "filiorum meorum Roberti Wiscardi et uxoris eius Elisabeth, Ebali et Hugonis et filiarum mearum Clementie, Sibille et Sare que cognominatur Agnes", by charter dated 1154[766].  "Wischardus comes Roceiensis" transferred his hospice of Evergnicourt to Laon, with the consent of "uxore mea […Elisabeth]…et Radulfo filio meo et uxore sua et ceteris liberis meis", by charter dated 1178, signed by "…Ebali filii comitis canonicorum…"[767].  "Guillelmus…abbas…Sancti Petri et Sancti Huberti in Ardennia" sold the abbey’s rights in a mill near Evergnicourt on the river Aisne to "Elizabeth dominæ de Novo Castro" by charter dated 1201[768]She married thirdly (1202) Renaud de Montdiviel"Renaud de Montdiviel et sa femme Elisabeth, veuve du comte de Roucy" donated property at Evergnicourt, acquired by Elisabeth "pendant son veuvage", to the abbey of Valroy by charter dated 1202[769]

iv)        GAUTHIER de Pierrepont (-before 23 Dec 1136).  A charter dated 2 Mar 1133 confirms the donation of property “in...villa Petreponti contigua, Saviaco” donated to Laon Saint-Vincent by “Robertus de Petreponte”, with the consent of “uxore fratrum suorum Widonis et Walteri[770].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Robert de Montaigu son frère” donated property to Laon Saint-Vincent for “Gautier dit Sans-terre” by charter dated 23 Dec 1136[771]

 

 

1.         DREUX de Pierrepont (-after 1144).  “Drogo de Petrefonte, Radulphus Flamens...” witnessed the charter dated 1144 under which “Radulphus...Cosduni oppidi dominus” donated “decima altaris Sancti Hylarii Cosduni” to Saint-Amand[772]

 

 

The parentage of Hugues is uncertain.  He names Robert de Pierrepont as his “avunculus” in the charter dated 1149 quoted below.  He could have been either the son of Guillaume de Pierrepont or the son of a sister of Guillaume who inherited Pierrepont after the death of her brothers without direct heirs.  As Hugues is named “Hugues de Vasnove” in the 1149 charter, the latter possibility seems more likely.  Hugues names “Guy” and “Robert” as his predecessors in the charter dated 19 Jun 1181 quoted below: Robert was presumably his uncle, the identity of Guy has not been ascertained. 

1.         HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”] (-[1188/90])Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Vasnove” confirmed the donation of “Saumoncey, Beauvoir” to Laon Saint-Martin, donated by “avunculi sui Roberti de Monte-acuto” but which he had wrongly claimed, by charter dated 1149[773].  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[774]Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[775].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[776]The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “Hugo de Wasnou…” in De Monte Felicis[777].  Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[778]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[779].  “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” declared “selusam molendini de Brangecort” the property of Tournai Saint-Martin by charter dated 1188[780].  He had died by 1190 when his son Robert was named as seigneur de Pierrepont (see below).  m CLEMENCE de Rethel, daughter of ITHIER Comte de Rethel Châtelain de Vitry & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-after 1191).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[781].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[782]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[783].  The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[784].  The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[785]Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[786].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[787].  “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[788].  “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[789]Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[790].  Hugues & his wife had six children: 

a)         ROBERT de Pierrepont (-before 1200).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[791]Comte de Roucy

-        COMTES de ROUCY

b)         GAUTHIER de Pierrepont (-after 1191).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[792].  “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[793].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[794]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[795]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[796]Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[797]

c)         GUILLAUME de Pierrepont (-[Acre] [1191/92]).  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[798]Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[799]Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...[800]The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Willelmus de Petreponte" among those who died in Palestine in [1191], presumably at the siege of Acre[801]

d)         MARGUERITE de Pierrepont .  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[802].  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[803]m GUILLAUME Seigneur d’Eppa, son of --- (-before 1231). 

e)         BEATRIX de Pierrepont .  The bishop of Laon noted that Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[804]The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.   “Willielmus de Warenna” donated property to St Mary Overey Priory; Southwark, for the souls of “patris mei Reginaldi et matris meæ Aliciæ et Beatricis uxoris meæ et Reginaldi filii nostri et Beatricis et Isabellæ filiarum nostrarum”, by undated charter[805]m as his first wife, WILLIAM de Warenne, son of RAINALD de Warenne & his wife Alice de Wormgay (-after 24 Jan 1191). 

f)          HUGUES de Pierrepont (-Huy 12 Apr 1229, bur Liège Saint-Lambert).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis" as the children of "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou"[806].  He was presumably born after, or not long before, the charter dated 1171 quoted above in which his other known brothers and sisters are named.  Bishop of Liège 1200.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1200 that different factions supported the election of three candidates at Liège after the death of Bishop Albert: "domnum Conrardum monachum adhuc novitium de Villariis...post...abbas Clarevallis et cardinalis...Henricum archidyaconum qui dicebatur de Iacia...Hugonis eiusdem ecclesie prepositum...filius...Hugonis de Wasnadio frater Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadio quorum mater...Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensi" (without naming the principal supporters of each candidate), but that Hugues prevailed and held office for 29 years[807]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1227 that “Hugo Leodiensis episcopus” was elected as archbishop of Reims but refused, and that “archidyaconus Remensis Henricus”, who had the previous year renounced his election as bishop of Châlons, was chosen following a second election and consecrated “in octavia pasche[808]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1227 that “episcopus Hugo Leodiensis” exchanged “villam de Maderiis” for “oppido Sancti Trudonis et...duabus abbatiis Walciodoro et Hasteriis” with “episcopo Metensi[809]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that “Hugo Leodiensis episcopus” became infirm “in castro Hoyensi”, died “pridie Id Apr”, and was buried “Leodium...in ecclesia beati Lamberti”, and quotes his epitaph “Francia me genuit, cathedravit Legia...Hugo fui Petraponte satus[810].  The necrology of Brogne records the death "II Id Apr" of "domnus Hugo Leodiensis episcopus"[811]

 

 

Two brothers, parentage not yet ascertained.  Robert Seigneur de Pierrepont could not have been the same person as Robert de Pierrepont Comte de Roucy because of the name of his mother-in-law (unless there is an error in the extract of the 1191 charter quoted below, which is not impossible).    

1.         ROBERT de Pierrepont (-after 1191).  Seigneur de Pierrepont.  “Robert Sr de Pierrepont” confirmed possessions of Signy at Lavergny, with the consent of “Clémence mère de sa femme et de ses enfants et de Gautier son frère”, by charter dated 1191[812]m ---, daughter of --- & his wife Clémence ---.  “Robert Sr de Pierrepont” confirmed possessions of Signy at Lavergny, with the consent of “Clémence mère de sa femme et de ses enfants et de Gautier son frère”, by charter dated 1191[813]

2.         GAUTHIER de Pierrepont (-after 1191).  Robert Sr de Pierrepont” confirmed possessions of Signy at Lavergny, with the consent of “Clémence mère de sa femme et de ses enfants et de Gautier son frère”, by charter dated 1191[814]

 

 

 

 

Chapter 4.    SOISSONS

 

 

 

A.      COMTES de SOISSONS

 

 

1.         WALDRIC (-after 19 Jun 966)Comte de Soissons.  "Gaufridus…Andecavorum comes" issued a charter dated 19 Jun 966 subscribed by "…Waldrici Suessionionis comitis"[815]

 

 

1.         GUY [I], son of [HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adela [Capet]] (-after [986]).  Dormay, in his Histoire de la ville de Soissons, records that "M. Renaut…dit avoir vu un manuscrit de Sainte-Croix d’Offemont, lequel ne se trouve plus" in which "Guy Comte de Soissons est appellé fils de Heribert Comte de Vermandois"[816]Comte de Soissons.  "…Wido comes…" confirmed the charter dated Jun 974 under which Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Thierry near Reims[817].  Lothaire King of the West Franks confirmed the privileges of the monastery of Saint-Eloy de Noyon, established by "piæ memoriæ nepos noster Lyudulfus Noviomanorum episcopus…assentientibus fratribus suis nepotibus nostris Alberto Viromandensi comite et Guidone", by charter dated to [980/986], signed by "Alberti Viromandensis comitis, Guidonis fratris eius…"[818].  "Adalbertus comes, Heriberti comitis, Vidonis comitis…" subscribed the charter dated to [980] under which "Adalbertus comes…in meo Virodumensi comitatu" founded the abbey of Mont-Saint-Quentin near Péronne[819].  He visited Rome in the mid-980s: Gerbert requested "Stephano Romanæ æcclesiæ diacono" to return books to him by "Guidonem Suessonicum comitem", dated to late 984[820]m [as her first husband, ADELISA, daughter of GILBERT/GISELBERT Comte & his wife ---.  The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[821].  If this is correct, she married secondly (992) Nocher [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube.  However, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[822], the wife of Comte Nocher was the daughter of Guy Comte de Soissons, although the primary source on which this is based is unknown.  The identity of Adelisa’s supposed father has not been traced.]  Guy & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         [ADELISA de Soissons .  According to the Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, the wife of Nocher [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine was the widow of Guy Comte de Soissons who married Nocher as her second husband "en 992"[823].  However, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[824], the wife of Nocher was the daughter of Guy Comte de Soissons, although the primary source on which this is based is not known.  It is uncertain which version is correct, but as noted below under Renaud Comte de Soissons there are indications that the Acta Sanctorum version provides a more credible explanation of events.  m NOCHER [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, son of ACHARD & his wife [Achardia ---].] 

b)         [RENAUD de Soissons ([985/92]-early 1057).  The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[825].  According to Europäische Stammtafeln[826], he was Renaud, possible son of Nocher Comte de Bar-sur-Aube & his wife Adelisa Ctss de Soissons.  This is consistent with the same source stating that Nocher’s wife was the daughter, not the widow, of Guy Comte de Soissons, but the primary source (if any) on which the information is based has not been identified.  As Renaud named his son Guy, it appears more likely that the Acta Sanctorum version is correct.  Comte de Soissons.  Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[827]m ([after Feb 1031]) ---.  The name of Renaud's wife is not known.  Two sources may provide some indication of the family connections of Renaud’s wife.  Firstly, the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers ("fratres") of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus…frater iam dicti Helduini"[828].  It is clear from other sources that Guillaume Comte de Soissons descended from the family of the dukes of Normandy.  The only way in which the Genealogiæ could make sense is if "fratres" can be interpreted as including brothers-in-law (an interpretation which has been observed and confirmed as correct in other cases).  If that is correct, it is possible that Renaud’s wife had married firstly, as his second wife, Hilduin [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt.  If this is correct, Renaud would have married after 1032, the last date when Hilduin [II] is recorded.  This timing appears to fit with the general chronology of the Soissons family, although if it is correct it is likely that Hilduin’s widow would have been Renaud’s second wife.  Secondly, one version of the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) names “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus[829], the latter referring to Manassès Bishop of Cambrai and later Bishop of Cambrai, who was Renaud’s grandson, and the former to Manassès Archbishop of Reims who was the son of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims (see the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY).  It appears unlikely that the family connection was through the Normandy family of Renaud’s son-in-law Guillaume “Busac” d’Eu.  On the other hand, the connection may have been through the previous generation, asssuming that “avunculus” in the source in question can be interpreted loosely.  This second hypothesis would also provide an explanation for the introduction of the name Manassès into the family of the comtes de Soissons.  If this hypothesis is correct, Renaud’s wife was ---, niece of Guy Archbishop of Reims, daughter of ---.  Renaud & his wife had [two] children:

i)          GUY [II] de Soissons (-early 1057).  Comte de Soissons.  "…Guidone comite Suessionis…" witnessed a charter dated to [1042/44] under which "Guanilo thesaurarius Sancti Martini" donated property[830].  Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[831]

ii)         [ADELA (-[1105]).  Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge[832].  This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaume’s marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant.  No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage.  If Guillaume’s wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation.  She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct.  m GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).] 

 

 

 

B.      COMTES de SOISSONS (NORMANDY)

 

 

GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).  Guillaume of Jumièges names “Rodbertum...Willelmum Suessionensem comitem atque Hugonem Luxoviensem præsulem” as the three sons of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum” and his wife “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli[833]Comte de Soissons.  Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge[834].  [An undated charter, dated to the [1035/50], records the donation of "predium Heltonis quod possedit Gozelinus vicecomes" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité at Rouen, with the support of "Willelmus comes Normanniæ, et Willelmus, filius Willelmi comitis, qui et hæres Heltonis, et Robertus comes frater eius…Niellus…et Turstinus vicecomites", subscribed by "…filii Turchitilli Hugo et Goffridus necnon Walerannus comes", signed by "Gozelini vicecomitis, Heltonis, Willelmi heredis Heltonis, Walberti fratris Heltonis, Waleranni comitis, Alberici comitis, Heltæ filii Heltonis…"[835].]  An undated charter, dated to [1049], records that "Lezelina comitissa…cum filiis suis" was expelled "de castro Ou" and donated land on the banks of the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis Hugone, Willelmo, Rotberto"[836].  [The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus…frater iam dicti Helduini"[837]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines gives the same origin of "comes Suessionensis Guilelmus" naming him brother of "Manasses Calva-asina et…comitis Hilduinis de Ramerut"[838].  No explanation has been found for this discrepancy.]  "…Willemus comes Suessionensis…" witnessed the charter dated 29 May 1067 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the possessions of Saint-Martin-des-Champs[839]  

m [ADELA] [de Soissons, daughter of RENAUD Comte de Soissons & his wife ---] (-[1105]).  Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge[840].  This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaume’s marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant.  No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage.  If Guillaume’s wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation.  She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct. 

Comte Guillaume & his wife had four children: 

1.         RENAUD [II] de Soissons (-1099).  The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus"[841]The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also names "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem" as children of "comes Suessionensis Guilelmus"[842]Comte de Soissons

2.         JEAN de Soissons (-after 1115)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that Jean succeeded his brother as Comte de Soissons[843]Comte de Soissonsm AVELINE de Pierrefonds, daughter of NIVELON [II] Seigneur de Pierrefonds & his wife Hawise --- (-12 May after 1119).  The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.   A charter dated 1119 records the settlement of a dispute between the monks of Saint-Jean-des-Vignes and "heres eius…comes Johannes" concerning property donated by "Aylaidis comitissa", after whose death "Johannes filius eius" disputed the donation, with the consent of "ipso puero comite et comitissa matre eius Avelina"[844].  The necrology of Reims [Saint-Rémi] records the death "XI Kal Jun" of "Avelina comitissa Suessionensis et monacha"[845].  Comte Jean & his wife had one child: 

a)         RENAUD [III] de Soissons (-after 1141).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Comte de Soissons.  A charter dated 1119 records the settlement of a dispute between the monks of Saint-Jean-des-Vignes and "heres eius…comes Johannes" concerning property donated by "Aylaidis comitissa", after whose death "Johannes filius eius" disputed the donation, with the consent of "ipso puero comite et comitissa matre eius Avelina"[846].  He transferred the county of Soissons to Ives II de Nesle in 1141 and became a monk[847]m BATHILDE, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  1137. 

3.         MANASSES de Soissons (-1 Mar 1108)The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus"[848]Bishop of Cambrai 1095.  The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) records the disputes which arose following the death of Gerard Bishop of Cambrai, when the town of Cambrai chose “Francigenam...Manassen” whereupon the canons appointed “prepositum...Mascelinum” (and later “domnum Walcherum archidiaconum suum”, see above), while the inhabitants of Arras appointed “episcopum...Lambertum[849].  Another Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) provides a second version of events, including the intervention of “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus[850].  The Chronicon S. Andreæ records the council of Auvergne held by Pope Urban II in 1095 which decided in favour of Manassès[851]The Continuatio of Sigebert's Chronica from Anchin records in 1095 the succession, after "expulso ab episcopatu Cameracensi Walchero”, of “Manasses[852].  The Continuatio of Sigebert's Chronica from Anchin records in 1105, after "Manasse Cameracensi episcopo accepto monachico habitu”, the succession of “Odo primus abbas ex cœnobio sancti Martini Tornacensis æcclesiæ[853]Bishop of Soissons 1103.  The Gesta Galcheri Episcopi Cameracensis records that the Pope installed Manassès as bishop of Soissons after he left Cambrai[854].  The necrology of Soissons Saint-Jean records the death “Kal Mar” of “Manasses episcopus” and his donation of “altare de Bonnis, de Lostro...[855]

4.         --- de Soissons The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem, horum soror Yvoni de Nigella" gave birth to "comitem Radulfum"[856]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that one daughter (unnamed) married "Ivoni de Neella" by whom she had "Radulfum eiusdem castri dominum. Radulfus genuit Yvonem comitem Suessionis et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum Cameracensem archidiaconum"[857]m IVES de Nesle, son of --- (-after 1076). 

 

 

 

C.      COMTES de SOISSONS (NESLE)

 

 

1.         IVES de Nesle, son of --- (-after 1076).  “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...” subscribed the charter dated 1076 under which “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus[858]m --- de Soissons, daughter of GUILLAUME Comte de Soissons & his wife Adela Ctss de Soissons.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Renaldum et Iohannem comites et Manassem episcopum Suessionensem, horum soror Yvoni de Nigella" gave birth to "comitem Radulfum"[859]The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rainaldum comitem Suessonis et Iohannem…et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as children of "comes Suessionis Guilermus", specifying that one daughter (unnamed) married "Ivoni de Neella" by whom she had "Radulfum eiusdem castri dominum. Radulfus genuit Yvonem comitem Suessionis et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum Cameracensem archidiaconum"[860].  Ives & his wife had [two] children: 

a)         RAOUL [I] de Nesle (-1125 or after)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Radulfam" as son of "Yvoni de Nigella" & his wife[861]Seigneur de Neslem RAINURDE, daughter of ---.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified.  1115.  Raoul [I] & his wife had five children: 

i)          IVES [II] de Nesle (-Aug 1178)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Yvonem et Radulfum castellanum de Bruges et Theodericum archidiaconum Cameracensem" as sons of "comitam Radulfam[de Nigella]"[862].  Seigneur de Nesle.  Comte de Soissons.  "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" issued a charter relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis", dated to [1161][863]"Ivo comes Suessionensis et dominus Nigellensis" donated property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxor mea Hyolens...nepos meus Cono heres meus et dominus Petrifontis”, by charter dated to [1175][864]The Chronicon Hanoniense records the death "1178…in introitu mensis Augusti" of "Ivo…Suessonensis comes et Nigelle dominus"[865]m ([1151/52]) as her first husband, YOLANDE de Hainaut, daughter of BAUDOUIN IV “le Bâtisseur” Comte de Hainaut & his wife Alice de Namur (1131-after Apr 1202).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Yolandem, Agnetem, Lauretam" as the daughters of "Alidis comitissa Hanonensis …cum viro Balduino comite", specifying that Yolande married firstly "Ivo senior…comes Suessonis dominusque Nigelle", but was childless by her first husband, and married secondly "Hugonis Sancti Pauli"[866]"Ivo comes Suessionensis et dominus Nigellensis" donated property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxor mea Hyolens...nepos meus Cono heres meus et dominus Petrifontis”, by charter dated to [1175][867]She married secondly (before 28 Apr 1180) Hugues [IV] Comte de Saint Pol

ii)         DREUX de Nesle (-after 1146).  Père Anselme states that Dreux and Raoul [II] consented to the donation of the chapel of Beaulieu made by their brother Ives [II] Comte de Soissons to the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated 1146[868]

iii)        RAOUL [II] de Nesle (-[1153/60]).  His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1161] issued by [his brother] "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis"[869], read together with the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[870].  Châtelain de Bruges. 

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iv)        RENAUD de Nesle .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  1115/25. 

v)         THIERRY de Nesle (-before 1183).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  Thesaurius at Noyon.  Archdeacon at Cambrai. 

b)         [DREUX de Nesle (-after 1098).  Albert of Aix names "…Drogo de Nahella…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[871].  It is not known how Dreux was related to the Nesle family but it is reasonable to suppose that he was a younger son of Ives de Nesle.] 

 

 

RAOUL [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Rainurde --- (-[1153/60])Père Anselme states that Dreux and Raoul [II] consented to the donation of the chapel of Beaulieu made by their brother Ives [II] Comte de Soissons to the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated 1146[872]His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1161] issued by [his brother] "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis"[873], read together with the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[874].  Châtelain de Nesles: “...Rogeri castellani de Peronia, Radulphi castellani de Nigella...” witnessed the charter dated 1146 under which Thierry Bishop of Amiens confirmed the donation made by "Alelmus de Ambianis"[875]Châtelain de Bruges.  "…Radulfi Brugensis castellani…" signed the charter dated 1151 under which Thierry Count of Flanders donated property to the town of Saint-Omer[876]

m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Montaigu, daughter of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife --- (-after 10 Sep 1185).  The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis records that "Evrardum", son of Richildis de Hainaut, married "filiam Lamberti Leodiensis comitis Gertrudem nomine, de qua Balduinum filium genuit"[877]According to the Chronicon Hanoniense, "Evrardum cognomina Radonem" married "matrem Cononis et Iohannis et Radulphi" during the lifetime of his first wife[878].  She married secondly Everard [III] Raoul Châtelain de TournaiGertrudis Brugensis castellan et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated property to Bruges, at the request of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Radulfi”, with the consent of [her daughter-in-law] “Elisabeth...Brugensis castellana”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185[879].  Another version of the same charter: Everard Bishop of Tournai confirmed that “Gertrudis Brugensis castellana et filius eius Joannes castellanus” donated “decimam...de Lophem...” to Bruges Sainte-Marie, in memory of “mariti sui piæ recordationis Rodulphi castellani...et filii sui comitis Cononis”, by charter dated 10 Sep 1185, witnessed by “…Desiderii scouthete de Maldenghien…[880]

Raoul [II] & his wife had four children: 

1.         CONON de Nesle (-1180 before 20 Apr)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[881].  "Ivonem comitem Suessionis" issued a charter relating to Epagny, with the consent of "domini Cononis nepotis et coheredis Ivonis comitis", dated to [1161][882].  Châtelain de Bruges 1161.  "Ivo comes Suessionensis et dominus Nigellensis" donated property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “uxor mea Hyolens...nepos meus Cono heres meus et dominus Petrifontis”, by charter dated to [1175][883].  "Cono comes Suessionensis et domini Nigellensis" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp for the soul of "patrui mei comitis Yvonis" by charter dated 1176[884]The Chronicon Hanoniense records that "Cono nepos eius Brugensis castellanus" succeeded on the death in 1178 of "Ivo…Suessonensis comes et Nigelle dominus"[885]Comte de Soissons 1178.  The Chronicon Hanoniense records the death in 1179 of "Cono comes Suessionensis" and the succession of his brothers Jean and Raoul (the latter in Soissons)[886]m (before 1164) AGATHE de Pierrefonds, daughter of DREUX Seigneur de Pierrefonds & his wife Beatrix --- (-after 1189).  The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Agathe" as wife of "Cono nepos eius [=Ivonis…Suessonensis comitis] Brugensis castellanus", specifying that her husband obtained "castrum Petrepontis" through her[887].  "Cono dominus Petrefontis et Agata uxor mea" confirmed the donation of "vicariam…Corborosa" made to Notre-Dame de Paris by "Sevinus de Rupeforti" by charter dated 1171, witnessed by "Theobaldi de Crespi…"[888]"Agathe comitisse…" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[889]Philippe II King of France confirmed the donation made to Notre-Dame de Longpont by "Beatrix de Petrafontis", confirmed after her death by "Agatha de Petrafontis ipsius filia", by charter dated 1183[890].  "Agatha domina Petrefontis" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Valsery made by "Johannes Turcus" by charter dated 1189[891]

2.         JEAN de Nesle (-14 Jul [1197/1200])The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[892]"…Johannes et Radulfi fratrum meorum" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[893]Châtelain de Bruges 1180.  Seigneur de Nesle, de Falvy et de Hérelle. 

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3.         RAOUL de Nesle (-4 Jan 1235)The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[894]"…Johannes et Radulfi fratrum meorum" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[895]Comte de Soissons 1180.  Châtelain de Noyon 1184.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1235 of "comes Rodulfus Suessionensis"[896]m firstly (1182 or before) as her fourth husband, ALIX de Dreux, widow firstly of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, secondly of GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne and thirdly of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[897].  "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[898].  "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[899]"Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[900]"Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[901], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.  m secondly (after 1205) YOLANDE, daughter of --- (-after 1210).  “Radulphus comes Suession. et Iolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated “unam masuram iuxta forum novum” to Soissons Saint Léger by charter dated 1210[902].  According to Simonnet she was the daughter of Geoffroy [IV] Seigneur de Joinville and his wife Helvide de Dampierre[903].  He cites no source to support his information.  Regnault calls her “Ioleud de Ionuille”, naming her as mother of his three children Jean, Raoul and Isabelle, and records her death 1221[904].  Presumably Yolande was related to the Grandpré family as her son Jean [II] names Henri [I] de Grandpré-Hans as his cousin in the following document: “Iehans cuens de Soissons” acted as guarantor to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “mon...cousin mon signor Henri de Hans chevalier” by charter dated [May] 1267[905].  This possibility is corroborated by the Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes recording that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married "monseigneur Raoul conte de Rousci" who died childless, and secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre" by whom she had a daughter who married “au conte Raoul de Soissons[906].  If that is correct, she was Yolande de Grandpré, daughter of Henri [III] Comte de Grandpré & his first wife Mélisende [Agnes/Isabelle] de Coucy.  m thirdly as her second husband, ADA d'Avesnes, widow of HENRI [III] Comte de Grandpre, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adela de Guise (-after 13 Aug 1249).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that she married "comiti de Grandi-prato"[907].  Regnault, calling her “Adée de Grand-pré”, dates her second marriage to 1222 and says that it was childless[908].  “Radulphus comes Suess” donated rights “in molendino de Varenes” to Soissons Saint Crispin, with the consent of “dominæ Ade uxoris meæ”, by charter dated 1223[909]"Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213 (misdated?), confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[910].  Dame de Hans: the Feoda Campanie dated [after 1234] includes “...comitissa Suessionensis domina de Hans…feodum apud Minor(cort) apud Ve(rgig)ni apud Ver[z]lius et apud Lemezicort…[911].  “Ada domina de Hans, quondam comitissa Suessionensis” acknowledged the homage given by her to “Theobaldo regi Navarræ et comiti Campaniæ" by charter dated Dec 1238[912]Ada dame de Hans notified Thibaut Comte de Bar that “Helvis de Barbançon sa bru” had received as dower “la moitié de la terre de Hans et de la maison qui fut le peire mon fils” by charter dated 13 Aug 1249[913]Comte Raoul & his first wife had two children: 

a)         GERTRUDE de Nesle (-[26 Sep 1220/Oct 1222]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "uxorem comitis Iohannis Bellimontis…et uxorem Stephani de Sancerra" as the two daughters of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" & her fourth husband, specifying that "Matheus de Montinorenci" had children by the former[914].  "Matheus dominus Montis Moren[tiaci]" donated property "in grangia mea de Herovilla" to Val-Notre-Dame, with the consent of "Gertrudis uxoris mee et Buccardi primogeniti mei", by charter dated Sep 1222[915].  This charter is presumably misdated in light of the date of the second marriage of Mathieu [II] de Montmorency.  The necrology of the abbey of Notre-Dame du Val records the death "VI Kal Oct" of "Geltrudis domina de Montemorenciaco"[916]m firstly (annulled) as his first wife, JEAN de Beaumont, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont & his second wife Alix --- (-1222).  He succeeded his half-brother as Comte de Beaumont in 1209.  m secondly (1193) as his first wife, MATHIEU [II] "le Grand" Seigneur de Montmorency, son of BOUCHARD [IV] Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Laurette de Hainaut (-24 Nov 1230). 

b)         ELEONORE de Nesle (-[1229/34]).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "uxorem comitis Iohannis Bellimontis…et uxorem Stephani de Sancerra" as the daughters of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" & her fourth husband[917], although this appears to refer to the same person.  "Matheus comes Bellimontes" exchanged property with the abbey of Saint-Martin de Pontoise with the consent of "uxoris mee Elienor filie comitis Suessionensis" by charter dated 1199[918]The Chronicon Beccensis Abbatiæ records that "Mathæus comes Belli montis supra Isaram et Alienor uxor eius" founded “ecclesiam sanctæ Marie de Layo” in 1199[919].  "Matheus comes Bellimontis" donated property to Saint-Léonor with the consent of "uxore mea Eliennor et Johanne fratre meo" by charter dated 1 Jan/18 Apr 1199 or 1 Jan/9 Apr 1200[920].  "Stephanus de Sacrocesaris et Elianor uxor mea, Bellimontis quondam comitissa" donated property "in territorio Joiaci" to Val-Notre-Dame by charter dated Oct 1220[921]m firstly (before 1199) as his second wife, MATHIEU [III] Comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont & his first wife Mathilde de Châteaudun (-21 or 24 Nov 1208, bur Priory of Lay).  m secondly (before 1214) as his first wife, ETIENNE [II] de Sancerre Seigneur de Saint-Brisson, son of ETIENNE [I] de Blois Comte de Sancerre & his wife Alix [Mathilde] de Donzy (-1252). 

Comte Raoul & his second wife had [four] children: 

c)         JEAN [II] de Nesle (-[Apr 1270/Feb 1272)"Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[922]He succeeded his father in 1235 as Comte de Soissons

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d)         RAOUL de Nesle (-[1272]).  Ineke Hardy researched Raoul’s life as part of her doctoral thesis about his troubadour compositions[923]"Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[924].  "Radulfus filius Radulfi comitis Suessionis" recognised the jurisdiction of Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated Apr 1233[925]Iean queus de Soissons” renounced rights “en leur maison de Chauigni et de Espagny” in favour of Soissons Saint Léger, with the consent of “Raous chevaliers mes freres...”, by charter dated Feb 1238 (O.S.?)[926]He arrived in Palestine in 1239 with the Crusade led by Thibaut King of Navarre, Comte de Champagne[927].  He was nominated titular regent of the kingdom in Jerusalem with his wife by an assembly at Acre 5 Jun 1243[928].  After Tyre was captured from the Filangieri brothers, Raoul demanded the city for the kingdom of Jerusalem but with support from the Ibelin family it was given as a fief to Philippe de Montfort[929].  Raoul left his wife and returned to France in 1244[930]Raous de Soissons freres le comte de Soissons...Jean” swore homage to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne by charter dated Nov 1245[931].  “Iean queus de Soissons et de Chartres et Sire d’Amboise” confirmed “la quittance que Raous mes freres” gave to “l’Hostellerie sainct Gervais de Soissons” relating to rights and lands “entour saincte Geneuiefue au fief que cis Raous mes freres tient de moy” by charter dated Feb 1253 (O.S.?)[932]Conte di Loreto: Sylvie Pollastro records “Raoul de Soissons” as Conte di Loreto in 1268, and his death in 1272 leaving “figli minori, tra cui una figlia”, an earlier entry showing a payment in his favour “della terra di Scafati” for the years 1273-74 [presumably retrospectively in view of his date of death][933].  "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[934].  “Raoul de Soissons frere a...Jean Comte de Soissons...et Contesse ma femme” sold “mon bois des Sequanois” to Notre-Dame aux Nonnains de Soissons, for “mon voyage d’outre-mer...”, by charter dated Apr 1270[935].  “Raous de Soissons sire du Tour, fils à...Jean Comte de Soissons” confirmed that “mes...oncles messires Raous de Soissons” had sold “son bois du Sequanois” to the churches of Saint-Jean des Vignes and Notre-Dame de Soissons, and entrusted him to complete the sale, by charter dated Apr 1270[936].  “Jehans quens de Soissons” named “nostre...oncle monseigneur Raoul de Soissons...nostre...pere Jehan jadis conte de Soissons” in a charter dated Sep 1272[937]m firstly (1241, divorced 1244) as her third husband, ALIX of Jerusalem Ctss of Jaffa, widow firstly or HUGUES I King of Cyprus and separated wife secondly of BOHEMOND V Prince of Antioch, daughter of HENRI de Champagne King of Jerusalem & his wife Isabelle Queen of Jerusalem ([1195/96]-1247).  William of Tyre (Continuator) records the marriage at Acre of Queen Alix and "Raol de Soissons frere dou conte de Soissons"[938]The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "conte Jehan de Soissons...monseigneur Raoul son frere" married firstly "la roine de Chyppre...ainsnee fille le roi Henri d’Acre" (garbled) and secondly “la fille monseignour Jehan de Hangest...[in one manuscript] qui fus peres monsigneur Aubert” by whom he had “une fille qui fut hoirs de sa terre[939].  The Chronicle of Philippe de Novare names "messier Raoul de Saissons, un haut baron de France" as husband of "la reyne Aalis"[940]She and her third husband were nominated titular regents of the Kingdom in Jerusalem by an assembly at Acre 5 Jun 1243, in the continuing absence of her great nephew Konrad von Hohenstaufen[941]m secondly [as her second husband,] --- de Hangest, [widow of JEAN Seigneur de Roye,] daughter of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Hangest & his wife ---.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "conte Jehan de Soissons...monseigneur Raoul son frere" married firstly "la roine de Chyppre...ainsnee fille le roi Henri d’Acre" (garbled) and secondly “la fille monseignour Jehan de Hangest...[in one manuscript] qui fus peres monsigneur Aubert” by whom he had “une fille qui fut hoirs de sa terre[942].  Goethals records that Jean Seigneur de Roye married “l’héritière de Hangest”, who married secondly “Raoul de Soissons Sire de Cœuvres”, without citing any source which confirms this information[943]m thirdly (before Oct 1266) as her first husband, COMTESSE de la Table, daughter of --- (-1301, bur Worcester Cathedral).  “Domina Contesia uxor...domini Radulphi de Suessione militis fratris domini comitis Suess.” approved the sale of revenue to Soissons Saint-Jean des Vignes made by “domini Radulphi mariti sui” by charter dated Oct 1266[944].  “Raoul de Soissons frere a...Jean Comte de Soissons...et Contesse ma femme” sold “mon bois des Sequanois” to Notre-Dame aux Nonnains de Soissons, for “mon voyage d’outre-mer...”, by charter dated Apr 1270[945].  “Comtesse de la Table femme de...Raoul de Soissons chevalier, frère de...Jean Comte de Soissons” renounced her dower “sur les bois de Secaunoy” which she and her husband had sold to the churches of Saint-Jean des Vignes and Notre-Dame de Soissons, by charter dated Jun 1270[946].  No other information has been found on a family named “la Table”.  Alison Stones discusses the heraldry in a psalter made in Amiens [1280-99][947] and identifies an image as “Comtesse de la Table”, noting that the psalter was later finished by her step-daughter Yolande de Soissons, wife of Bernard de Moreuil[948].  This psalter is discussed in numerous other documents available online.  She married secondly ([Saint-Georges-du-Bois, near Beaufort-en-Vallée] [1272, after Sep]) as his second wife, Roger [II] de Clifford.  Dugdale records that Roger de Clifford left for Palestine with Edward Prince of Wales and [on his return journey, in 1272?] “at St George (near the castle of Beaufort in France) he contracted matrimony with the Countess of Lauretania, whom he enfeoffed before marriage in the mannor of Welverham [Weaverham] in Cheshire” (no sources cited)[949].  The Close Rolls include an order dated 12 Apr 1278 granting “twelve oaks for timber” to “Contissa, countess of Lorett[o], wife of Roger de Cliff[ord]”, confirmed by order dated 8 Jan 1279 for “Contesse Loretti wife of Roger de Clifford[950].  An order dated 20 Jan 1296 (N.S.) ordered the restoration of her property to “Comitissa late the wife of Roger de Clifford the elder if they were taken into the king’s hands solely because she is an alien” because “she has gone to parts beyond the sea under the king’s protection[951].  Clay records her date of death and place of burial (no sources cited)[952].  Raoul & his second wife had one child: 

i)          YOLANDE de Soissons .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "conte Jehan de Soissons...monseigneur Raoul son frere" married firstly "la roine de Chyppre...ainsnee fille le roi Henri d’Acre" (garbled) and secondly “la fille monseignour Jehan de Hangest” by whom he had “une fille qui fut hoirs de sa terre” who married “monseigneur Bernard de Moruel[953].  “Bernard de Moreuil fils de monseigneur Bernard de Moreuil et Iolens de Soissons sa femme” confirmed a sale made by “madame Marie de sainct Remy femme jadis de monseigneur Guyon de sainct Remy chevalier” to Soissons Saint-Jean des Vignes by charter dated Aug 1276[954]m (before Aug 1276) BERNARD Seigneur de Morueil, son of BERNARD Seigneur de Morueil & his wife ---. 

Raoul & his third wife had [two or more children]: 

ii)         [--- de Soissons .  As noted above, Sylvie Pollastro records that “Raoul de Soissons” Conte di Loreto in 1268 left “figli minori, tra cui una figlia” when he died[955].  The daughter was presumably Yolande who is named above.  Maybe the minor children were from his third marriage.] 

e)         [ISABELLE de Nesle .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes [one manuscript] records that "Jehans...Raous...Ysabiaus leur suer fu mariee au visconte de Chastieleraut" [who has not been identified][956].  As suggested below, if Isabelle was the same person as Raoul’s supposed daughter Isabelle, wife of Nicolas [II] Seigneur de Barbançon, her marriage "au visconte de Chastieleraut" would have been only a betrothal which was terminated.  m --- Vicomte de Châtellerault, son of ---.] 

f)          [ISABELLE de Nesle (-after May 1249, bur Abbaye de la Thure).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la fille le conte Raoul de Soissons...Yzabiaus" (Raoul who died 1235) married "monseignour Nicolon...sires de Barbenson apres la mort son pere"[957].  On the other hand, Europäische Stammtafeln shows Isabelle as the daughter of Jean [II] Comte de Soissons[958].  This latter suggestion is unlikely to be correct considering Isabelle’s absence from Jean’s Feb 1238 (O.S.) charter which names his two daughters Adela and Yolande (see below), an absence which would be explained if she was already married and had left home (which seems inconsistent with the date of Jean [II]’s first marriage in [1227/30] as suggested below) or if she was born later (inconsistent with the chronology of her husband’s family).  It is reasonable to suppose therefore that Baudouin d’Avesnes was correct, especially as he dates Isabelle’s marriage to after the death of her father (Raoul died in 1235, see above).  If that is correct, it is likely that Isabelle was the same daughter whom Baudouin records (in an earlier passage) as marrying "au visconte de Chastieleraut" (see above), which would be possible if the earlier “marriage” was only a betrothal which was terminated[959].  Bert M. Kamp suggests that the original reason for proposing Jean [II] de Nesle-Soissons, not Raoul, as Isabelle’s father was probably the 22 Mar 1329 Papal dispensation (4o consanguinity) for the marriage of Nicolas de Barbançon (Isabelle’s grandson) and Marguerite de Looz (great-granddaughter of Adela de Soissons, daughter of Jean [II]), whose family relationship would have been too remote to require a dispensation if Raoul had been Isabelle’s father.  However, he highlights a completely different family relationship which provides a good explanation for the 1329 dispensation (through the Rœulx family: Eustache [IV] Seigneur du Rœulx was paternal grandfather of Alexandrine, Nicolas de Barbançon’s mother, while Eustache’s sister Agnès was maternal grandmother of Jean [II] de Looz, Nicolas’s father-in-law)[960].  “Nicholaus dominus de Barbenchon et Elizabeth uxor mea” donated “medietatem decime de Villari...” to nuns “de ordine dicto de Primy” by charter dated Mar 1243 (O.S.)[961].  “Nicholes sires de Barbenchon et Ysabiaus ma femme” exchanged property with La Thure by charter dated May 1249[962].  No primary source has yet been found which indicates when Isabelle died.  An epitaph at La Thure records the burial of “Isabiau dame de Barbenchon espouse du fodateur de cheans” who died “MII[963]m ([1235/Mar 1244]) NICOLAS [II] Seigneur de Barbançon, son of GILLES Seigneur de Barbançon & his wife Elisabeth de Merbes (-[1256]).] 

4.         BAUDOUIN de Nesle .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified.  1177. 

 

 

The relationship, if any, between the following person and the main Nesle family has not been ascertained, not has the basis for his shared interest with Roger de Chaumont (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY) in the property specified in the source quoted below. 

 

1.         HUGUES de Nesle .  The Feoda Campanie dated [1201] includes “Hugo de Nigella tenebat medietatem de Reci de comite, Rogerus de Chaumont aliam medietatem et non sunt in scripto comitis...” in De Firmitate[964]

 

 

JEAN [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons & his second wife Yolande --- (-[Apr 1270/Feb 1272).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la seconde fille monseignour Raoul de Couci" married secondly "le conte Henri de Grantpre" by whom she had a daughter who married “au conte Raoul de Soissons”, by whom she had “2 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des fils...Jehans” who succeeded his father as comte de Soissons [incorrect][965].  His mother’s correct identity is confirmed by his 21 Mar 1241 charter cited below.  "Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[966].  It is assumed that the 1 Nov 1213 document is misdated, considering Jean’s birth date.  Jean swore homage to the bishop of Soissons, with his father’s consent, for “la moitié du droit de stellage de la ville” by charter dated 1227[967]Seigneur de Chimay et du Tour, de iure uxoris: Jean was titled “seigneur de Chimay et du Tour” in two charters dated 1230 and 1231 in which he confirmed the possessions of Longpont abbey[968].  "Johannes Suessionensis miles, primogenitus comitis Suessionensis, dominus de Turno et Cisinaco" and "Maria uxor ipsius Johannis" noted donations to the Teutonic knights by charter dated May 1234[969].  He succeeded his father in 1235 as Comte de SoissonsComte de Chartres, Seigneur d'Amboise.  “Iean queus de Soissons” renounced rights “en leur maison de Chauigni et de Espagny” in favour of Soissons Saint Léger, with the consent of “Raous chevaliers mes freres...Marie ma femme comtesse de Soissons et mes filles Aales et Iolens”, by charter dated Feb 1238 (O.S.?)[970].  Jean [II] names “le comte Raol mon père et la comtesse Yolant sa femme ma mère” in a charter dated 21 Mar 1241[971].  “Iehans cuens de Soissons” acted as guarantor to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne for “mon...cousin mon signor Henri de Hans chevalier” [Henri de Grandpré-Hans] by charter dated [May] 1267[972].  "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[973]

m firstly ([1227/30]) MARIE de Chimay, daughter of ROGER Seigneur de Chimay & his wife Agnes --- (-after 20 Mar 1241).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles[974].  The chronology appears more favourable for the wife of Jean Comte de Soissons to have been the daughter of Roger de Chimay.  Hardy records that Jean “était déjà marié en 1226” (no source cited)[975].  On the other hand, Martin & Jacob indicate that Jean was unmarried in 1227 when he swore homage to the bishop of Soissons, with his father’s consent, for “la moitié du droit de stellage de la ville”, but was titled “seigneur de Chimay et du Tour” in two charters dated 1230 and 1231 in which he confirmed the possessions of Longpont abbey[976].  "Johannes Suessionensis miles, primogenitus comitis Suessionensis, dominus de Turno et Cisinaco" and "Maria uxor ipsius Johannis" noted donations to the Teutonic knights by charter dated May 1234[977].  “Iean queus de Soissons” renounced rights “en leur maison de Chauigni et de Espagny” in favour of Soissons Saint Léger, with the consent of “Raous chevaliers mes freres...Marie ma femme comtesse de Soissons et mes filles Aales et Iolens”, by charter dated Feb 1238 (O.S.?)[978]

m secondly as her second husband, MATHILDE d'Amboise Dame d'Amboise, de Montrichard et de Chaumont, widow of RICHARD [II] Vicomte de Beaumont-sur-Sarthe, daughter of SULPICE [III] Seigneur d'Amboise & his wife Isabelle de Blois Ctss de Chartres (-12 May 1256).  “Sulpice d’Amboise” donated property to Notre-Dame de Fontaines, with the consent of “sa femme Elisabeth et de sa fille Mathilde”, for the souls of “...Elisabeth comtesse d’Angoulême sa sœur”, by charter dated Apr 1213[979].  Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1235 under which [her husband] “Richard de Beaumont seigneur d’Amboise, de Montrichard et de Chaumont” ratified a donation to Tours Saint-Martin made by “Mathilde sa femme”, and confirmed a donation of part of “[les] péages de Montrichard” made by “Guillaume d’Amboise son oncle[980].  “Mathilde d’Amboise veuve de Richard (de Beaumont), femme de Jean comte de Soissons” made an agreement with Tours Saint-Julien by charter dated Apr 1254 (N.S.)[981].  The necrology of Notre-Dame du Parc records the death 11 May 1256 of “Mahaut vicomtesse de Beaumont, dame d’Amboise, de Montrichart, et de Raoul vicomte de Beaumont...[982]

Comte Jean [II] & his first wife had five children: 

1.         ADELA de Nesle (-before 1252).  The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "Joannes", son of "domino Arnulpho de Audenarde", married "filia Joannis comitis Suessionensis"[983].  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...li ainsnes...Aelis fut mariee a monseignour Jehan d’Adenarde, qui ot de li une fille...Marie[984].  “Iean queus de Soissons” renounced rights “en leur maison de Chauigni et de Espagny” in favour of Soissons Saint Léger, with the consent of “Raous chevaliers mes freres...Marie ma femme comtesse de Soissons et mes filles Aales et Iolens”, by charter dated Feb 1238 (O.S.?)[985]m as his first wife, JAN van Oudenarde et de Rozoy-sur-Serre, son of ARNOUD [IV] Heer van Oudenaarde & his wife Alix de Rosoy (-[12 Dec 1293/Apr 1294]). 

2.         YOLANDE de Nesle (-[1238/Apr 1242]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...la seconde fille...Yolens fut mariee a monseignour Huon de Rumigni” by whom she died “sans avoir hoir de lui[986]The date of her death is estimated from the charter dated Apr 1242 under which "Johannes comes Suessionensis" promised to transfer to the bishop of Liège all he could recover from "domino N. de Ruminiaco" under the marriage contract between “filio suo et filia mea[987]Iean queus de Soissons” renounced rights “en leur maison de Chauigni et de Espagny” in favour of Soissons Saint Léger, with the consent of “Raous chevaliers mes freres...Marie ma femme comtesse de Soissons et mes filles Aales et Iolens”, by charter dated Feb 1238 (O.S.?)[988]m as his first wife, HUGUES [II] Seigneur de Rumigny et de Boves, son of NICOLAS [V] Seigneur de Rumigny et de Florennes & his wife Isabelle de Coucy (-2 Aug 1270). 

3.         JEAN [III] de Nesle ([after Feb 1239]-before Aug 1284).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles, li ainsnes des filz...Jehan et li autres Raouls”, adding that Jean succeeded his father as comte de Soissons[989].  His absence from his father’s Feb 1238 (O.S.) charter quoted above suggests that Jean [III] was born after that date (assuming that the document is correctly dated), although if that is correct he would have been young to have married “before May 1256”.  Seigneur de Chimay: "Johannes primogenitus J[ohannis] comitis Suessionensis dominus de Cimay et...Margarita de Monteforti eius uxor" confirmed the donation made to Vaux de Cernay under the testament of “bone memorie Almarricus condam comes Montisfortis pater predicte Margarite” by charter dated Apr 1257[990].  “Jean de Soissons sire de Chimai” acknowledged having seen documents sealed by “son père le comte de Soissons et de Nicholon ki fu sire de Barbenchon” recording a sale to Epinlieu abbey by charter dated Sep 1261[991].  “Jean de Soissons Sires de Cimay fils à...Jean Comte de Soissons” confirmed that “mes...oncles messire Raoul de Soissons” sold “son bois du Sequanois” to Saint-Jean de Vignes and Notre-Dame de Soissons, by charter dated Apr 1270[992]Comte de Soissons.  “Jehans quens de Soissons” named “nostre...oncle monseigneur Raoul de Soissons...nostre...pere Jehan jadis conte de Soissons” in a charter dated Sep 1272[993].  He presumably died before his wife’s Aug 1284 donation.  m (before May 1256) MARGUERITE de Montfort, daughter of AMAURY [VII] de Montfort Comte de Montfort & his wife Beatrix de Viennois ([1225/35]-after Aug 1284).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avenses records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille"[994].  "Johannes primogenitus J[ohannis] comitis Suessionensis dominus de Cimay et...Margarita de Monteforti eius uxor" confirmed the donation made to Vaux de Cernay under the testament of “bone memorie Almarricus condam comes Montisfortis pater predicte Margarite” by charter dated Apr 1257[995].  “Margguerite de Montfort comtesse de Soissons” donated revenue to Saint-Jean by charter dated Aug 1284[996].  Jean [III] & his wife had [five] children: 

a)         MARIE de Nesle (-after [1272/76]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille...Marie...fut maries a monseignour Huon de Scouffans seignour de Maruel"[997]m GUY de Saint-Rémy, son of --- (-1276). 

b)         JEAN [IV] de Nesle (-before May 1302).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans"[998]Comte de Soissonsm (before 1281) MARGUERITE de Rumigny, daughter of HUGUES [II] de Rumigny & his second wife Philippa ---.  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans" married “la fille monseignour Huon seignour de Rumigni, si ot de li une fille[999]A parliamentary decision dated 1281 recognised that "de medietate villa d’Aubenton" owed homage to “Ioannes primogenitus comitis Suessionensis...et Margaretæ uxoris sua filia quondam domini de Rumigneyo” who shared the succession of her father “cum sorore sua Ysabella uxore Theobaldi primogeniti ducis Lotharingiæ[1000].  Jean [IV] & his wife had two children: 

i)          JEAN [V] de Nesle (Cimay 21 Mar 1281-1304).  A manuscript from Bonne-fontaine abbey records that "Marguerite seur d’Elizabeth Duchesse de Lorraine", who had married “le fils du Comte de Cimay ensemble Comte de Soissons”, gave birth “le jour de Saint Benoist en la ville de Cimay” 1281 to “son premier filz”, adding that she had two sons “le premier…Iehan, le deuxiesme Hugue” specifying that Jean died without heirs[1001]Comte de SoissonsPère Anselme states that Jean “damoiseau” confirmed the acquisition of the vicomté de Venizel by the abbey of Soissons Saint-Crespin by charter dated May 1297[1002]Dom Villevieille records that “Hugues Cte de Soissons, fils de Jn 4e Cte de Soissons et de Marguerite...de Rumigny” succeeded “Jn 5e son frère Cte de Soissons, qui mourut l’an 1304 sans alliance[1003]

ii)         HUGUES de Nesle (-after Oct 1305).  The chronology suggests that Hugues de Nesle was the son of Jean [IV] not of Jean [V], particularly bearing in mind the estimated dates of birth of his wife and of the wife of Jean [III].  Dom Villevieille records that “Hugues Cte de Soissons, fils de Jn 4e Cte de Soissons et de Marguerite...de Rumigny” succeeded “Jn 5e son frère Cte de Soissons, qui mourut l’an 1304 sans alliance”, adding that he died “vers l’an 1327” (which must be an error considering his widow’s subsequent marriages)[1004]Comte de SoissonsPère Anselme states that Hugues exchanged property with the commune of Soissons by charter dated Oct 1305[1005]m (early 1305) as her first husband, JEANNE de Dargies, daughter of RENAUD [II] Seigneur de Dargies et de Catheux & his wife Agnes de Bruyères ([1290]-[Sep 1333/22 Feb 1337]).  The testaments of Renaud Seigneur de Dargies, dated early 1294 and Aug 1295, bequeathed dowry to his daughter Jeanne “...toute le terre de Clari qui me doit venir apres le dechest me dame le contesse d’Aubemalle[1006], indicating that the property in question must have constituted Ida’s dower from her first marriage.  Dame de Dargies et de Catheux.  Dom Villevieille records that “Hugues Cte de Soissons, fils de Jn 4e Cte de Soissons et de Marguerite...de Rumigny” married “Jne fille de Gobert [error for Renaud] Sgr d’Argiès et de Catheux en Picardie[1007].  She married secondly Jean de Clermont Comte de CharolaisThe Continuatio of the Chronicle of Guillaume de Nangis records the marriage in 1310 of "Ludovicus Roberti Clarimontis filius...frater Johannes" and "comitissam"[1008]Dom Villevieille records that “Jne d’Argiès, fille de Renaut d’Argiès, Ctsse de Soissons, veuve de Jn de Clermont chev.” sold “la terre de Puyvert“ to “Thomas de Bruyères son oncle et à Isabeau de Melun sa femme” by charter dated Jul 1319[1009].  She married thirdly (after Jul 1319) Hugues de Châtillon Seigneur de CondéJean de Neelle sire d’Offemont et du Sauchoy chevalier et Marguerite dame de Mellou sa femme” acknowledged that “Jeanne dame de Dargies et comtesse de Soissons” had granted them certain properties, by charter dated Sep 1333[1010]Madame Ieanne de Dargies Comtesse de Soissons” exchanged property with “monsieur Iean de Nesle seigneur d’Offemont” by charter dated 1333, ratified by “Iean de Boulongne et damoiselle Ieanne de Clermont sa femme fille de ladite feue Comtesse de Soissons” by charter dated 22 Feb 1336 (O.S.?)[1011].  Hugues & his wife had one child: 

(a)       MARGUERITE de Nesle (posthumous after Oct 1305-Oct 1350)A manuscript from Bonne-fontaine abbey records that "Marguerite seur d’Elizabeth Duchesse de Lorraine", who had married “le fils du Comte de Cimay ensemble Comte de Soissons”, gave birth “le jour de Saint Benoist en la ville de Cimay” 1281 to “son premier filz”, adding that she had two sons “…le deuxiesme Hugue” who “laissa sa femme enceinte, laquelle enfanta une fille…Marguerite[1012]Ctss de Soissonsm (before 23 Jan 1317) JEAN d’Avesnes Seigneur de Beaumont, son of JEAN II Comte de Hainaut [JAN II Count of Holland] & his wife Philippine de Luxembourg ([1288]-11 Mar 1356)

c)         [--- de Soissons .  The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records that “Eustasses, fils du connestable” married “la fille le comte de Soissons[1013].  Identifying the father of the wife of Eustache [IV] de Conflans is difficult because of the uncertain chronology of the Conflans family.  If Eustache’s birth is correctly estimated as shown here, it is likely that she was the daughter of Jean [III] Comte de Soissons.  As noted above, Europäische Stammtafeln names “Marie de Soissons, widow of Guy de Saint-Rémy, d. of Cte Jean III” as the second wife of Eustache [III][1014].  No primary source has yet been found which confirms that the wife of Eustache [IV] was the widow of Guy de Saint-Rémy.  m EUSTACHE [IV] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil, son of EUSTACHE [III] de Conflans Seigneur de Mareuil & his wife [--- de Blâmont] ([1250/60]-).] 

d)         RAOUL de Nesle (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans, si autre 2 frere furent clerc, Li uns des 2 clers ot non Raoul et li autres Auchiers"[1015].  Seigneur d’Ostel.  The Chronique Artésienne records “mesires Raous de Soissons” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai[1016]m as her first husband, JEANNE Dame d’Araines, daughter of --- (-after May 1323).  She married secondly (before 17 May 1320) as his first wife, Mathieu de Trie Seigneur de VaumainHer family origin and second marriage are confirmed by the following document: a charter dated Jun 1335 records that Mahy de Trie Mareschal de France” agreed with “Robert de Sorel escuyer” that, if he predeceased “Yde de Rony Comtesse de Dreux sa femme“, she would inherit property which had previously belonged to “feue Jeanne d’Araines sa femme[1017].  Père Anselme records that she and her second husband sold property in Paris to the Duc de Bourbon by charter dated 17 May 1320[1018].  Père Anselme records that she “acquit de Jean de Soissons prevost et chanoine de Reims les terres de Cohan et de Colonges qui avoient appartenu à son premier mari”, confirmed by the king by charter dated May 1323[1019]

e)         AUCHIER de Nesle .  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille le conte de Montfort...Marguerite si ot de li 3 fils et une fille, li ainsnes des filz...Jehans, si autre 2 frere furent clerc, Li uns des 2 clers ot non Raoul et li autres Auchiers"[1020]

4.         RAOUL de Nesle (-Tunis [1270/71]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles, li ainsnes des filz...Jehan et li autres Raouls”, adding that Raoul died “en Tunnes jones bachelers quant li rois Loys de France y als[1021].  Seigneur du Thour: “Raous de Soissons sire du Tour, fils à...Jean Comte de Soissons” confirmed that “mes...oncles messires Raous de Soissons” had sold “son bois du Sequanois” to the churches of Saint-Jean des Vignes and Notre-Dame de Soissons, and entrusted him to complete the sale, by charter dated Apr 1270[1022].  Seigneur de Cœuvres. 

5.         ELEONORE de Nesle (-after Feb 1280).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...la tierce fille...Alienor fut mariee au viconte de Touars qui ot de li un fil et une fille, li filz...Hughes[1023].  "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[1024].  “Alienordis de Suessione domina Thesangiarum” confirmed a donation made by “pater meus Ioannes comes Suessionis dominus de Turno et de Cimai” to Saint-Crespin en Chaie by charter dated Feb 1279 (O.S.?)[1025]m RENAUD [I] Vicomte de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffanges, son of GUY [I] Vicomte de Thouars & his wife Alix de Mauléon (-[1264/Feb 1269]). 

 

 

 

D.      COMTES de SOISSONS (BOURBON, SAVOY)

 

 

The county of Soissons was inherited by Jeanne de Beaumont, daughter of Marguerite de Nesle Ctss de Soissons and her husband Jean de Hainaut Seigneur de Beaumont (see the document HAINAUT), and to Jeanne’s son Guy [II] de Châtillon (see CENTRAL FRANCE - BLOIS, TOURS) who ceded the county in 1367 to Enguerrand [VII] Seigneur de Coucy (see above Chapter 2.D).  Soissons was inherited by Enguerrand’s oldest daughter Marie who married Henri, son of Robert I Duke of Bar (see BAR), whose son Robert was regranted the county in 1413 and was succeeded by his daughter Jeanne who married Louis de Luxembourg Comte de Saint-Pol.  Louis’s granddaughter, Marie de Luxembourg, married François de Bourbon Comte de Vendôme (see VENDÔME) whose grandson Louis Prince de Condé inherited Soissons which he passed to his younger son Charles and thereafter to a younger branch of the Savoy family as shown below. 

 

 

CHARLES de Bourbon, son of LOUIS de Bourbon Prince de Condé & his second wife Françoise d’Orléans (Château de Nogent-le-Rotrou 3 Nov 1566-Château de Blandy 1 Nov 1612, bur Gaillon, église des Chartreux)Comte de Soissons et de Dreux. 

m (contract 12 Nov 1601, Paris 27 Dec 1601) ANNE Comtesse de Montafié Dame de Bonnétable et de Lucé, daughter of LOUIS Comte de Montafié & his wife Jeanne de Coesme Dame de Bonnétable et de Lucé (1567-Paris, Hôtel de Soissons 17 Jun 1644, bur Gaillon, église des Chartreux). 

Mistress (1): ANNE MARIE Bohier, daughter of ANTOINE Bohier Seigneur de la Rochebourdet & his wife Isabelle de Miremont. 

Charles & his wife had five children: 

1.         LOUISE de Bourbon (Paris 7 Feb 1603-Paris 9 Sep 1637, bur covent des Carmélites de la rue Chapon, Paris)m (contract Paris 5 Mar 1617, in person Paris 30 Apr 1617) as his first wife, HENRI d’Orléans Duc de Longueville, son of HENRI d’Orléans Duc de Longueville & his wife Catarina Gonzaga Dame de Coulommiers (27 Apr 1595-Rouen 11 May 1663, bur Châteaudun Sainte-Chapelle). 

2.         LOUIS de Bourbon (Paris 11 May 1604-killed in battle Marfee, near Sedan 6 Jul 1641, bur Gaillon, église des Chartreux).  Comte de Soissons, de Clermont et de Dreux.  Mistress (1)ELISABETH des Hayes, widow of --- de la Tour, daughter of ---.  Louis had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1): 

a)         LOUIS HENRI de Bourbon “le bâtard de Soissons” (Sedan Aug 1640-Paris 8 Feb 1703, bur Gaillon, église des Chartreux)Legitimated 1643.  Prince de Neuchâtel et de Valangin.  Comte de Dunois, de Noyers et de Chaumont.  m (Paris 7 Oct 1694) ANGELIQUE de Montmorency dite Madame de Luxembourg, daughter of FRANÇOIS HENRI de Montmorency Duc de Piney-Luxembourg & his wife Madeleine de Clermont-Tallard Duchesse de Piney, Princesse de Tingry (Paris 18 Jan 1666-Paris 7 Jun 1736, bur Paris Saint-Sulpice).  Louis & his wife had two children: 

i)          LOUISE LEONTINE de Bourbon (Paris 24 Oct 1696-Paris 11 Jan 1721, bur Paris Saint-Sulpice).  Titular Pss de Neuchâtel et de Valangin.  m (contract Versailles 10 Feb 1710, in person Paris Saint-Sulpice 24 Feb 1710) as his first wife, CHARLES PHILIPPE d'Albert Duc de Luynes et de Chevreuse, son of HONORE CHARLES d’Albert Duc de Montfort & his wife Marie Anne Jeanne de Courcillon de Dangeau (Paris 30 Jul 1695-Château de Dampierre 2 Nov 1758, bur Paris Saint-Sulpice). 

ii)          MARIE ANNE CHARLOTTE de Bourbon (Paris 26 Sep 1701-Paris 23 Aug 1711, bur Abbaye de Saint-Paul les Beauvais).  She was known as “Mademoiselle d’Estouteville”. 

3.         MARIE de Bourbon (Paris 3 May 1606-Paris 3 Jun 1692, bur Paris Saint-Sulpice).  She succeeded her brother in 1641 as Ctss de Soissons, de Clermont et de Dreux.  m (Paris 14 Apr 1625) THOMAS FRANÇOIS de Savoie Principe di Carignano, son of CHARLES EMMANUEL I "le Grand" Duke of Savoy & his wife Infanta doña Caterina Micaela of Spain (21 Dec 1596-Turin 22 Jan 1656, bur Turin San Giovanni). 

4.         CHARLOTTE ANNE de Bourbon (Paris 15 Jun 1608-Paris end-1623, bur Gaillon, église des Chartreux). 

5.         ELISABETH de Bourbon (Paris Oct 1610-Paris 10 Oct 1611, bur Gaillon, église des Chartreux). 

Charles had two illegitimate children by Mistress (1):   

6.          CHARLOTTE batarde de Soissons ([1592/93]-Maubuisson 28 Dec 1626, bur Maubuisson).  Nun at Fontevraud 1610.  Abbess of Maubuisson 1623. 

7.          CATHERINE batarde de Soissons (-Abbaye de La Périgne, Le Mans 10 Dec 1651, bur Abbaye de La Périgne).  Nun at Fontevraud 1610, Abbess of La Périgne, Le Mans 1624. 

 

 

EUGENE MAURICE de Savoie, son of THOMAS FRANÇOIS de Savoie Principe di Carignano & his wife Marie de Bourbon-Soissons (Chambéry 3 May 1635-Wua, Westphalia 7 Jun 1673).  Canon at Köln cathedral 1637-1651, resigned.  He succeeded his brother in 1656 as Comte de Soissons et de Dreux.  General in the French army.  Governor of Champagne. 

m (Paris 21 Feb 1657) OLIMPIA Mancini, daughter of MICHELE LORENZO Mancini & his wife Geronima Mazzarino (-Brussels 9 Oct 1708).  

Eugène Maurice & his wife had eight children: 

1.         LOUIS THOMAS (1 Aug 1657-killed in battle Landau 14 Aug 1702).  He succeeded his grandmother in 1692 as Comte de Soissons et de Dreux.  General Field Marshal in the Imperial army.  m (17 Dec 1680) URANIE de la Cropte Dame de Beauvais, daughter of François de la Cropte Seigneur de Beauvais & his wife Charlotte Martel (13 Jan 1655-14 Nov 1717).  Louis Thomas & his wife had six children: 

a)         MARIE ANNE VICTOIRE (Paris 11 Sep 1683-Turin from apoplexy 11 Oct 1763, bur Turin).  Mademoiselle de Soissons.  She was the principal heiress of her uncle Prince Eugène and inherited his Belvedere Palace in Vienna which she sold in 1752 to Empress Maria Theresia.  She sold Carignano in 1751.  m (Paris 17 Apr 1738, separated 1752) JOSEPH FRIEDRICH Herzog von Sachsen-Hildburghausen, son of ERNST Herzog von Sachsen-Hildburghausen & his wife Sophie Henriette Gräfin von Waldeck (Erbach 5 Oct 1702-Hildburghausen 4 Jan 1787, bur Hildburghausen).

b)         LOUIS THOMAS (7 Dec 1685-1695).

c)         THERESE ANNE LOUISE (10 Nov 1686-1736).

d)         EMMANUEL (8 Dec 1687-Vienna 28 Dec 1729).  He succeeded his father in 1702 as Comte de Soissons.  Lieutenant General in the Imperial army.  Governor of Antwerp.  m (Vienna 24 Oct 1713) MARIA THERESIA ANNA Pss von und zu Liechtenstein, daughter of JOHANN ADAM Fürst von und zu Liechtenstein & his wife --- (11 May 1694-Vienna 20 Feb 1772).  She founded 1750 the Maria Theresia Academy, later Military Academy.  Emmanuel & his wife had one child: 

i)          EUGENE JEAN FRANÇOIS (23 Sep 1714-Mannheim 24 Nov 1734).  He succeeded his father in 1729 as Comte de SoissonsHerzog von Troppau.  Major General in the Imperial army. 

e)         MAURICE (29 Jan 1690-Madrid or Barcelona 15 Mar 1710).

f)          EUGENE (4 Jul 1692-London 15 Mar 1710, bur Westminster Abbey).

Louis Thomas had one illegitimate child by an unknown mistress:

g)         PHILIPPE EMMANUEL (Mar 1697-London 8 Jun 1762).  He left descendants in England. 

2.         PHILIPPE (6 Apr 1659-4 Oct 1693).  Abbé.

3.         LOUIS JULES (2 May 1660-killed in battle Petronell 13 Jul 1683).  Colonel in the Imperial army, "Cavaliere di Savoia".

4.         EMMANUEL PHILIBERT (16 Oct 1662-18 Apr 1676).  Comte de Dreux.

5.         EUGENE FRANÇOIS (Paris 18 Oct 1663-Vienna 21 Apr 1736, bur Vienna St Stefan).  Field Marshal in the Imperial army.

6.         MARIE JEANNE BAPTISTE (1 Jan 1665-30 May 1705).  Mademoiselle de Soissons.  

7.         LOUISE PHILIBERTE (15 Nov 1667-26 Feb 1726).  Mademoiselle de Carignan. 

8.         FRANÇOISE (21 Dec 1668-24 Feb 1671).  Mademoiselle de Dreux.

 

 

 

D.      SEIGNEURS de BAUDEMENT

 

 

Three brothers: 

1.         ANDRE de Baudément (-[31 Mar] or [19 Jul] after 1146)Seigneur de Baudément, de la Fère-en-Tardenois, de Nesles, de Longueville et de Quincy.  "Baronum:…Andreas de Baldement" subscribed the charter dated to [1115] under which Baudouin I King of Jerusalem confirmed donations to the church of St Marie, Josaphat[1026].  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[1027]"Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[1028].  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis…", by charter dated 1144[1029].  A charter dated 1145 records the donation made by "dominus Andreas de Baldimento et Agnes uxor eius" to Saint-Yved de Braine, with the consent of "Rainaldus Suessonum comes"[1030].  He must have died soon afterwards as his wife is named alone in the charter dated 1146 which is quoted below.  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “31 Mar“ of "Andreæ de Baldimento et sororis Agnetis uxoris eius” and their foundation of “abbatiæ de Bassofonte et Moncellis[1031].  The necrology of Saint-Yved de Braine records the death "XIV Kal Aug" of "Andreæ de Baldimento domini huius castri et Agnetis uxoris eius" and their donation[1032].  It is not certain that this entry relates to the death of André: the date may be that of the donation in question.  m AGNES, daughter of --- (-[31 Mar] after 1144).  [The inheritance of Braine by her descendants suggests that Agnes may have neen heiress of Braine.  If that is correct, one of her predecessors in Braine may have been named in the following charter:  Philippe I King of France received the homage of nepotem nostrum Theobaldum comitem Trecensem”, and of the latter’s nobles of whom “...Guillelmus de Brena...”, by charter dated Apr 1110[1033].]  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[1034]"Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis…", by charter dated 1144[1035].  A charter dated 1145 records the donation made by "dominus Andreas de Baldimento et Agnes uxor eius" to Saint-Yved de Braine, with the consent of "Rainaldus Suessonum comes"[1036].  "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai", with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee", made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[1037].  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “31 Mar“ of "Andreæ de Baldimento et sororis Agnetis uxoris eius” and their foundation of “abbatiæ de Bassofonte et Moncellis[1038].  André & his wife had [nine] children: 

a)         [ANDRE de Baudément (-after 1145).  "Ansericus de Monteregio" donated property to Pontigny, with the support of “--- uxor eiusdem Anserici”, by charter dated 1145, witnessed by “Andreas de Baldament, Bernardus capellanus de Monteregio, Guido de Dompetræ et Guido filius eius...Garnerius de Dompetræ...[1039].  The position of the name “Andreas de Baldament...” in the list of witnesses, before the chaplain of Montréal whose name preceded those of the lay witnesses, suggests that he held an ecclesiastical position.  The fact that he was first in the list may indicate a special connection with the donation, possibly because he was a monk at Pontigny.  His name suggests that he was related to the Baudément family of the donor’s mother, although this is not certain.  If that is correct, the name André indicates that he may have been his father’s oldest son, although in that case it is unclear why he would have been destined for the church.  “...Andreas de Baldement...presbiteri...” witnessed the charter dated 1145 under which Bernardus Clarevallis...abbas” gave judgment in disputes between Hugues Bishop of Auxerre and “Willelmum comitem Nivernensem[1040].

b)         GUILLAUME (-after 1130).  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[1041]

c)         GUY de Baudément (-26 Sep [1143/44]).  Renaud Archbishop of Reims founded the abbey of Igny en Tardenois and confirmed donations, including the donation of "mansionile de potestate Cheherey" made by "domnus Andreas de Baldimento et uxor ipsius Agnes eorumque filii Guillelmi et Guido",  by charter dated 1130[1042]"Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[1043]Seigneur de Baudément.  The necrology of Saint-Yved de Braine records the death "VI Kal Oct" of "Widonis militis patris comitissæ de Brana"[1044]m ALIX Dame de Braine, daughter of --- (-20 Oct ----).  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, for the love of "Theobaldi fratri præfati Guidonis", with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre", by charter dated 1144[1045]The primary source which confirms her family origin has not been identified.   The necrology of Saint-Yved de Braine records the death "XIII Kal Nov" of "Alaidis matris comitissæ de Brana"[1046].  Guy & his wife had three children: 

i)          HUGUES .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. 

ii)         GUIDON .  The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. 

iii)        AGNES (1130-24 Jul 1204, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived).  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified.  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes nobilis de Barro super Sequanam" as second wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum", specifying that she was "mater comitisse Petronille"[1047].  The foundation charter of the abbey of Mores, undated but dated to 1152, records the donations of "Agnes, Barri comitissa…pro anima viri sui comitis Milonis"[1048].  The cartulary of Troyes Saint-Pierre records a charter dated [1148/53] which recalls a donation by "Helisabeth mater Milonis comitis Barensis et ipsius uxor Agnes"[1049].  Dame de Braine.  "Agnes Branæ domina" donated property to Saint-Yved de Braine, for the welfare of the souls of "suæ…Milonis mariti sui", by charter dated 1150[1050].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes nobilis de Barro super Sequanam" as second wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum", specifying that she was "mater comitisse Petronille"[1051].  "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[1052]"R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum " by charter dated Jul 1212[1053], although the document is incorrectly dated assuming that the death date of Agnes is correct as shown above.  The Chronicon Fiscannensis Cœnobii records the death in 1204 of "Agnes Comitissa Branæ"[1054]m firstly (before 1150) MILON [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine, son of GUY Comte de Bar-sur-Seine [Brienne] & his wife Petronille-Elisabeth de Chacenay (-1 Oct 1151).  m secondly (1153) as his second wife, ROBERT de France Seigneur de Dreux, son of LOUIS VI King of France & his wife Adélaïde de Maurienne [Savoie] ([1124/26]-Braine 11 Oct 1188, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). 

d)         THIBAUT .  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, for the love of "Theobaldi fratri præfati Guidonis", by charter dated 1144[1055].  Monk at Prémontré. 

e)         WALERAN (-1142, bur Ourscamp).  Monk at Clairvaux.  Abbot of Ourscamp before 1137:  the Historia cœnobiii Mortui-Maris records that "abbatia Ursicampi, quæ a Claravalle exierat" was flourishing in 1137 under "Gualeranno primo abbate filio…Andreæ de Baldement", when recording that he acquired jurisdiction over Mortemer[1056].  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre", by charter dated 1144[1057]

f)          HELVIDE (-1165).  “Hugo de Monteregali dominus et uxor eius Aluysa” donated “terram...Campum-Leuve...juxta fluvium...Senain” to Fontemoy abbey by charter dated 9 Apr 1119[1058]"Domina Montis Regali…Alaisa" ratified donations to Fontenoy after the death of "viri sui Hugonis" by undated charter[1059].  "Eluidis Montis regali domina" donated property to Jully-les-Nonnains, with the consent of "Anserici filii sui", by charter dated 1129[1060]"Guido de Dampetra…et uxor eius…Elvidis et filii Anserici et Guillelmus" approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[1061].  "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre", by charter dated 1144[1062].  Nun at Jully-les-Nonnains, although it is assumed that Helvide left the convent soon afterwards in light of her marriages.  "Simon dominus Belfortis" confirmed donations to Chapelle-aux-Planches, in the presence of "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis...domini Wilermi domini de Dampetra et Milonis de Planceii", by charter dated 1152, witnessed by “...Wilermus dominus de Dampetra et Heleidis mater eius...[1063].  "Hadevilde ctssa de Dampierre, Helye Renaud son avunculus…Beatrix femme d'Helye" witnessed a declaration by Bozon Bishop of Chalon dated 1157 concerning a donation to the priory of Ulmoy by Guérau de Orchara[1064]m firstly HUGUES Seigneur de Montréal, son of [MILON Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Adelaide ---] (-after 9 Apr 1119).  m secondly ([1120/25]) GUY [I] Seigneur de Dampierre et de Saint-Dizier Vicomte de Troyes, son of THIBAUT Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube & his wife Elisabeth de Montlhéry (-1151). 

g)         HUMBELINE de Baudément (-1166 or after).  A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[1065].  Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[1066].  [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay.  This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio[1067].  What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[1068].  Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time.  However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document.  Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147.  Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister.  As discussed in more detail in the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay.  If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.]  "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[1069].  "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[1070].  Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband.  Gauthier must have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).  m (repudiated before [1147]) as his [first/second] wife, GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161). 

h)         MATHILDE (-after 1142).  "Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[1071].  Nun at Jully-les-Nonnains. 

i)          [ --- (-after 1142).  Nun at Jully-les-Nonnains.  "Andree de Baldimento et Goi…is filii eius" donated property "apud Juliacum" to the Priory of Jully-les-Nonains for receiving "in sanctimoniales filias predicti Andree, Mathildem…et Halwidem" by charter dated 1142, subscribed by "dominus Wido de Barri"[1072].  “Halwidem” is presumably an error for another name as Mathilde’s sister Helvide was at that time still married to Guy [I] Seigneur de Dampierre (see above).] 

2.         ENGENOUL .  "Ingenulfus frater domini Andree" witnessed the charter dated 1133 under which "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins[1073].  Canon at Soissons, St Gervais. 

3.         GUILLAUME de Baudément .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas…pro filio suo…Willelmo qui miles dei Templique Salomonis tunc fuerat", by charter dated 1133[1074].  Knight Templar. 

 

 

The relationship between the following family sub-group and the main Baudément family is not known: 

1.         LETHERIC de Baudément .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas", by charter dated 1133[1075]m ---.  The name of Letheric's wife is not known.  Letheric & his wife had two children: 

a)         LEON .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas", by charter dated 1133[1076]

b)         EUSTACHE .  "Lethericus de Baudimonto" donated property to the Templars at Provins, with the consent of "Leonius filius eius et Eustachius alter filius", and with the approval of "domnus Andreas", by charter dated 1133[1077]

 

 

 

E.      SEIGNEURS de FALVY (NESLE)

 

 

RAOUL de Nesle, son of JEAN de Nesle Châtelain de Bruges, Seigneur de Nesle, de Falvy et de Hérelle & his wife Elisabeth van Peteghem (-before Feb 1226)"Elizabet mater domini de Nigella" renounced rights over revenue from Lambersart in favour of Lille Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "filius…meus Radulphus", by charter dated 1204[1078]The Scripta de Feodis of King Philippe II record “Johans sires de Neele” holding “Neele et les apartenances...” and name among his “home...Raous mis frères...[1079]Seigneur de Falvy

m ([1212/14]) as her second husband, ALIX de Roye, widow of JEAN [III] Comte d'Alençon, daughter of BARTHELEMY de Roye & his wife Petronille de Montfort (-26 Jan 1226).  A manuscript genealogy of the Lords of Beaumont records that “Joannem”, son of “Robertum comitem Alencheii”, married “Aaliz filiam domini Bartholomæi de Roye” but died childless[1080].  Her second marriage is confirmed by the necrology of Joyenval which records the death of [her son] "domini Joannis de Nigella filii dominæ Aelidis de Roya” and his donation which was confirmed by his mother[1081].  The necrology of Joyenval records the death “26 Jan“ 1226 of "dominæ Alidiæ de Roya filiæ domini Bartholomæi fundatoris” and the donation of revenue from “teloneum suum de Roya, detentum nunc a domino de Mouy[1082]

Raoul & his wife had one child: 

1.         JEAN [I] de Nesle (-2 Dec 1292)Seigneur de Falvy et de la Hérelle.  "Jehans de Neele cuens de Pontieu de Monsteruel et d’Aubemarle" appointed "la noble dame Jehane…roine de Castele et de Lyon contesse de Pontieu nostre…fame" as his proxy to pursue a claim against the monks of Saint-Sauve by charter dated 17 Oct 1270[1083]The necrology of Joyenval records the death “3 Dec“ 1281 of "domini Joannis de Nigella filii dominæ Aelidis de Roya” and his donation which was confirmed by his mother[1084]m firstly BEATRIX, daughter of ---.  Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1307 under which Iohannes de Falevi” confirmed donations made by “pater meus dominus Ioannes de Fallevi miles” for the souls of “bonæ memoriæ domini Ioannis de Fallevi patris sui militis et dominæ Beatricis uxoris suæ, eiusque parentum, necnon sui dominæ Ioannæ uxoris suæ et liberorum suorum[1085]m secondly ([May 1260/9 Feb 1261]) as her second husband, JEANNE de Dammartin Ctss de Ponthieu, widow of FERNANDO III "el Santo" King of Castile, daughter of SIMON de Dammartin Comte d’Aumâle & his wife Marie Ctss de Ponthieu ([1220]-Abbeville 16 Mar 1279, bur monastery of Valoires).  "Jehans de Neele cuens de Pontieu de Monsteruel et d’Aubemarle" appointed "la noble dame Jehane…roine de Castele et de Lyon contesse de Pontieu nostre…fame" as his proxy to pursue a claim against the monks of Saint-Sauve by charter dated 17 Oct 1270[1086]The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death in 1279 of "regina Hispanie, domina Pontivi, mater Alienoræ reginæ Angliæ"[1087].  Jean [I] & his first wife had children: 

a)         JEAN [II] de Nesle (-Dec 1300)Seigneur de Falvy et de la Hérelle.  An epitaph at Orcamp records the death in Dec 1300 of “messires Iehans sires de Falevi[1088]m as her second husband, MARIE van Oudenaarde, repudiated wife of GODEFROI de Perwez, daughter of JAN Heer van Oudenaarde & his first wife Adela de Soissons (-[after 1276]).  The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "Jehans...conte de Soissons" married "la fille monseignour Alart de Chimay ki siet en Haynau...hoirs de la terre de Chimai" by whom he had “2 fils et 3 filles...li ainsnes...Aelis fut mariee a monseignour Jehan d’Adenarde, qui ot de li une fille...Marie” who married “monseigneur Godefroi de Peruwes” who died “sans avoir hoir de li” and secondly “monseigneur Jehan de Falleui qui ot de li 2 filles[1089].  "Jehans dis sires d’Audennarde sires de Rosoit" confirmed the testament of "me…fille Marie jadis dame de Nineve" (confirmed by "mon segnor Jehan de Neela qu’on dit de Falleni [son mari]") by charter dated 1277[1090].  Jean [II] & his wife had four children: 

i)          --- de Nesle (-killed in battle Courtrai 11 Jul 1302).  Seigneur de Falvy.  The Chronique Artésienne records “mesires de Falvi” among those killed at the battle of Courtrai 11 Jul 1302[1091].  The primary source which confirms his name has not been identified. 

ii)         JEAN [III] de Nesle (-after 1310)Seigneur de FalvyIohannes de Falevi”, for the souls of “...dominæ Mariæ...matris meæ et liberorum meorum”, confirmed donations made by “pater meus dominus Ioannes de Fallevi miles” for the souls of “bonæ memoriæ domini Ioannis de Fallevi patris sui militis et dominæ Beatricis uxoris suæ, eiusque parentum, necnon sui dominæ Ioannæ uxoris suæ et liberorum suorum”, by charter dated 1307[1092].  “Iohannes de Falevy domicellus” claimed against “Radulfum de Nigella patruum suum” regarding property of “bonorum...defunctorum comitis Pontivi et Ioannis eius primogeniti patris dicti domicelli fratrisque dicti Radulfi” by charter dated 1310[1093]m as her second husband, JEANNE de Vendeuil, widow of MATHIEU de Roye Seigneur de la Ferté en Ponthieu, daughter of CLAREMBAUD Seigneur de Vendeuil & his wife --- (-after 1319).  Mathieu de Roye chevalier Seigneur de la Ferté et de Vendeuil et…Jeanne sa femme dame de Vendeuil” settled a dispute with the convent of Saint-Nicolas or Bos in the bishopric of Laon concerning rights over “Choegny” by charter dated Jul 1280 which names “messire Huon de Vendeuil et messire Clerembaut[1094].  A document dated 1310 records a settlement between “domicellam Margaretam de Pinquigniaco” and “Ioannam de Vendolio relictam defuncti Mathei de Roya militis”, which names “defuncti Mathei de Roya iunioris filii procreati ex eis...domicellæ Mariæ filiæ dictæ Ioannæ et dicti defuncti Mathei quondam mariti eiusdem[1095].  Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated May 1324 which named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary[1096]Jean [III] & his wife had two children: 

(a)       JEAN [IV] de Nesle (-before 1341).  Seigneur de FalvyJeanne Dame de Fraisnoy femme de...Monsieur Jean de Dargies dit le Borgne Seigneur de Frasnoy” declared founding a chapel “de son heritage à Vendeuil”, in homage to “son...seigneur monseigneur de Fallevy et de Vendeuil”, by charter dated Feb 1324[1097].  A charter dated May 1324 named “Jeanne jadis Dame de Vendeuil mere Jehan de Fallevi chevalier hoir à present de ladite Dame” and required “[le]dit Iehan de Fallevi” to make payments to “Marie de la Freté sa suer et au Seigneur de Loques son mary[1098].  A charter dated 1341 records “Ferricus de Pinconio miles et consiliarius regis” acting “ratione uxoris...pro herede defuncti domini de Falviaco[1099]

(b)       BEATRIX de Nesle (-after 1344)A charter dated 1341 records “Ferricus de Pinconio miles et consiliarius regis” acting “ratione uxoris...pro herede defuncti domini de Falviaco[1100].  “Beatrix Dame de Fallevy et d’Ailly sur Somme et Jehan de Pinkigny chevaliers Sires de ladite ville d’Ailly et de Hornoy en Vimeu” confirmed the foundation of a hospital “en la ville de Rivieres” by charter dated 7 Apr 1344[1101]m (before 29 Sep 1319) as his second wife, FERRY de Picquigny Seigneur d’Ailly-sur-Somme et de Hervey, son of JEAN de Picquigny Vidame d’Amiens & his wife Marguerite de Beaumetz (-before 1344). 

iii)        RAOUL de Nesle (-after 1310).  Iohannes de Falevy domicellus” claimed against “Radulfum de Nigella patruum suum” regarding property of “bonorum...defunctorum comitis Pontivi et Ioannis eius primogeniti patris dicti domicelli fratrisque dicti Radulfi” by charter dated 1310[1102]

iv)        MARIE de Nesle (-after 1328).  Père Anselme (naming her “Marguerite”) records her parentage and marriage without citing any source on which he bases the information[1103].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  Dame de Warcq et de Gernomont.  [According to Goethals, Aubert [III] de Longueval married “Marie de Neelle, fille de Jean de Neelle seigneur de Faluy et de Herelle et de Mari d’Audenarde [qui] venait de perdre son mari Jean de Los seigneur d’Agimont [mort] en Italie en 1310” and by her had three children[1104].  The primary source which confirms this information has not been identified.  From a chronological point of view, it appears possible so long as Marie was one of her parents’ younger children.]  m [firstly] [as his second wife,] JEAN de Looz Seigneur d’Agimont, son of JEAN [I] Comte de Looz et de Chiny & his second wife Isabelle de Condé (-Brescia [1310/11]).  [m secondly (after [1310/11]) AUBERT [III] Seigneur de Longueval, son of AUBERT [II] Seigneur de Longueval & his [third wife Marie de Heilly] ([Jun 1284/1285?]-after 6 Feb 1321).] 

b)         JEANNE de Nesle (-10 Oct 1280, bur Dunes)An epitaph at Dunes records the death “IV Kal Nov” 1280 of “Iohanna filia comitis de Pontiu uxor Willelmi de Betunia militis domini de Lokerna et de ---[1105]m GUILLAUME [III] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne, son of GUILLAUME [II] de Béthune Seigneur de Locres et de Herbuterne & his wife Beatrix de Herbuterne. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



[1] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 321.       

[2] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré d'Argenteuil, p. 348.       

[3] Annales Vedastini 892, MGH SS II, p. 527.  . 

[4] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[5] ES II 188B. 

[6] ES III 729 B. 

[7] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 893, MGH SS XXIII, p. 748. 

[8] Flodoardi Annales 9927, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[9] Flodoard, 931, MGH SS III, p. 379. 

[10] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[11] Flodoard, 941, MGH SS III, p. 388. 

[12] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[13] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[14] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 587, no citation reference. 

[15] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[16] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 17. 

[17] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[18] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[19] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[20] Foigny (1879), CCCCLI, p. 73. 

[21] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[22] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[23] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XVII, p. 201. 

[24] Mabillon (1739) Annales Ordinis S. Benedicti, Tome VI, XXVI, p. 654. 

[25] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXII, p. 206. 

[26] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 587, no citation reference. 

[27] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXX, p. 214. 

[28] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 587, no citation reference. 

[29] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 587, no citation reference. 

[30] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[31] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[32] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[33] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[34] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[35] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[36] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[37] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[38] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[39] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

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[41] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[42] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[43] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 587, no citation reference. 

[44] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[45] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XLI, XLII, XLIII, pp. 225, 228, 234. 

[46] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[47] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 587, 589, no citation reference. 

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[49] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 589, no citation reference. 

[50] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 588, no citation reference. 

[51] Flodoardi Annales 927, MGH SS III, p. 377. 

[52] Flodoardi Annales 930, MGH SS III, p. 379. 

[53] Flodoardi Annales 949-950, MGH SS III, pp. 399-400. 

[54] Flodoardi Annales 958, MGH SS III, p. 404. 

[55] ES III 653. 

[56] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, II, p. 128. 

[57] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, III, p. 129. 

[58] Tardif ‘Le procès d’Enguerran de Coucy’ (1918), p. 9, footnote 1, quoting Prou, M. (1908) Recueil des actes de Philippe I (1059-1108) (Paris), XXVII, LXI, LXXXII, LXXXIX, XC, XCIV, pp. 80, 162, 214, 232, 236 and 244 [not yet consulted]. 

[59] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 21. 

[60] Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi, Liber I, XXVI, col. 1397. 

[61] Domesday Translation, Yorkshire, XXXVIII, folio 329v, p. 849. 

[62] Annuaire-Bulletin de la Société de l’Histoire de France, Tome XXIII (1886), Part 2, pp. 179-80. 

[63] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[64] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[65] Mathieu 'La succession au comté de Roucy’ (2000), p. 78 footnote 30, quoting Plessis, T. du. (1728) Histoire de la ville et des seigneurs de Coucy (Paris), p. 128. 

[66] Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi, Liber I, XXVI, col. 1397. 

[67] Pontoise Saint-Martin, XXV, p. 22. 

[68] Vita Sancti Arnulfi Suessionensis Episcopi, Liber I, XXVI, col. 1397. 

[69] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436. 

[70] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[71] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[72] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXII, p. 206. 

[73] Molinier (1887) De Glorioso Rege Ludovico, Ludovici filio, X, p. 158. 

[74] Tardif ‘Enguerran de Coucy’, p. 33, footnote 3. 

[75] Archives Nationales, K//24/C, no. 16/6, Noyon, 1168, communicated to Medieval Lands by Marie-Adélaïde Nielen, Conservateur en chef, Département du Moyen âge et de l’Ancien régime, Archives nationales, by email 19 Sep 2022.  

[76] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[77] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[78] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[79] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[80] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 346. 

[81] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[82] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 348. 

[83] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[84] Laborde, J. B. de (1780) Essai sur la Musique ancienne et moderne (Paris), Tome 2, p. 248. 

[85] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 214. 

[86] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[87] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[88] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[89] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 346. 

[90] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[91] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 348. 

[92] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[93] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[94] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[95] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909. 

[96] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[97] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[98] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[99] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[100] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[101] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[102] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, LXXII, p. 88. 

[103] Paris Notre-Dame I, XVII, p. 299. 

[104] Notre-Dame de la Trappe Tome II, p. 2. 

[105] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[106] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[107] Gislebert de Mons (Vanderkindere) (1904), p. 69. 

[108] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[109] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[110] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[111] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[112] Gilbert de Mons (Napran, 2005), p. 41, footnote 1179 (no source cited). 

[113] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 346. 

[114] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[115] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 438. 

[116] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. dclxxxv. 

[117] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[118] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[119] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[120] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[121] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[122] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[123] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[124] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 348. 

[125] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[126] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 350. 

[127] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[128] Arbois de Jubainville, Tome III, Preuves, C, p. 431. 

[129] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257. 

[130] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[131] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[132] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[133] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 354. 

[134] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[135] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[136] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 359. 

[137] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[138] La Thaumassière (1679), p. 232. 

[139] Annales Londonienses, p. 43. 

[140] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[141] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[142] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[143] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[144] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 384. 

[145] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 220. 

[146] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[147] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[148] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 359. 

[149] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye des Clairets, p. 281.       

[150] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945. 

[151] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[152] Cluny, Tome VI, 5112, p. 561. 

[153] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[154] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 373. 

[155] Matthew Paris, Vol. V 1250, p. 158. 

[156] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[157] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 947. 

[158] Ponthieu, CLVIII, p. 215. 

[159] Kronijk van Arent toe Bocop, p. 184. 

[160] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 373. 

[161] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 382. 

[162] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, pp. 384-5. 

[163] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 376. 

[164] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[165] Cluny, Tome VI, 5112, p. 561. 

[166] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 379. 

[167] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[168] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 376. 

[169] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 379. 

[170] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 382. 

[171] Anciennes Chroniques de Flandre, RHGF XXII, p. 343. 

[172] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 381. 

[173] ES VII 80. 

[174] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[175] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1239, p. 530. 

[176] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945. 

[177] Skene (1877) Vol. I, Liber VII, CXI, p. 74. 

[178] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1251, p. 265. 

[179] Rymer (1745), Tome I, Pars II, p. 27. 

[180] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXV, p. 109. 

[181] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXXIX, p. 127. 

[182] Chronicle of Melrose, 1239, p. 64. 

[183] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 302. 

[184] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 293. 

[185] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 303.       

[186] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 302. 

[187] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 395. 

[188] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[189] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[190] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire VI, p. 909.   

[191] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 239, p. 72. 

[192] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[193] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[194] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[195] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[196] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[197] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[198] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 407. 

[199] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[200] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[201] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[202] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[203] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 544. 

[204] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[205] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[206] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 166. 

[207] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[208] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[209] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[210] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[211] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[212] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[213] Matthias Nuewenburgensis, p. 274. 

[214] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[215] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[216] Rymer (1740), Tome III, Pars III, p. 84. 

[217] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, col. 599. 

[218] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, p. 504, footnote (2) continued from p. 503, citing “manuscrit de l’ancien fonds St Germain (no. 1558), aujourd´hui ms. fr. 18616 de la Bibl. Nat”. 

[219] Chronicon Angliæ 1328-1388 (1874), p. 56. 

[220] Rymer (1740), Tome III, Pars III, p. 84. 

[221] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, col. 599. 

[222] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, 12, col. 603. 

[223] Duchesne (1631), Bar, Preuves, p. 56. 

[224] Calmet (1728), Tome II, Preuves, col. dclxvi. 

[225] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, 12, col. 603. 

[226] CP X 232. 

[227] Rymer (1740), Tome III, Pars IV, p. 44. 

[228] Veterum Scriptorum, Tome VI, Historia fundationis monasterii cælestinorum Suessionensium, 12, col. 602. 

[229] Marolles (1873), col. 3. 

[230] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 573, no citation reference. 

[231] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[232] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[233] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[234] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[235] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 443. 

[236] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 443. 

[237] Père Anselme, Tome V, p. 132. 

[238] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 443. 

[239] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 443. 

[240] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 444. 

[241] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[242] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[243] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[244] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[245] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 988, p. 488. 

[246] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[247] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 444. 

[248] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citation. 

[249] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 445. 

[250] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[251] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 747, p. 376. 

[252] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 279. 

[253] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 51. 

[254] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 280. 

[255] Le Carpentier (1664), Vol. II (Part III), p. 343. 

[256] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 1193, p. 557. 

[257] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[258] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[259] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 447. 

[260] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 544. 

[261] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 281. 

[262] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 447. 

[263] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 447. 

[264] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 544. 

[265] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 447. 

[266] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 281. 

[267] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 448. 

[268] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 448. 

[269] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 448. 

[270] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 281. 

[271] Villevieille, Trésor généalogique, Vol. LXXIV, Raa-Recey, 29/79 (downloaded digitised copy).  

[272] Villevieille, Trésor généalogique, Vol. LXXIV, Raa-Recey, 29/79 (downloaded digitised copy).  

[273] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[274] Villevieille, Trésor généalogique, Vol. LXXIV, Raa-Recey, 30/79 (downloaded digitised copy).  

[275] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[276] Duchesne (1631) Guines, Preuves, p. 444. 

[277] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 1219, p. 565.  Information sent by email 12 Mar 2023 by D. E. Larocque, who noted that this discovery was made by Peter Stewart. 

[278] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[279] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 443. 

[280] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 410. 

[281] Annales Lobienses 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[282] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[283] Tardif ‘Enguerran de Coucy’, p. 14. 

[284] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXII, p. 206. 

[285] Genealogiæ Fuscniacenses 3, MGH SS XIII, p. 252. 

[286] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, II, p. 128. 

[287] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, IV, p. 130. 

[288] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[289] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[290] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 301. 

[291] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[292] Butkens (1724), Vol. I, p. 642. 

[293] De Raadt (1903) Sceaux, Vol. IV, p. 112. 

[294] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[295] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[296] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Coucy, p. 289. 

[297] Margry ‘Seigneurs de Canny et Varesnes (1888), p. 16

[298] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 441-2. 

[299] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 442. 

[300] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255, and Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 453. 

[301] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255. 

[302] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 454. 

[303] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 450. 

[304] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 255, and Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 453. 

[305] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[306] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 591, no citation reference. 

[307] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 253. 

[308] Duchesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 193. 

[309] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[310] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 219. 

[311] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[312] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[313] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[314] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[315] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[316] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 46. 

[317] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[318] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[319] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 372. 

[320] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 372. 

[321] ES VII 80, which gives no details. 

[322] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[323] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[324] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 561. 

[325] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[326] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[327] Gallia Christiana, Tome III, col. 95. 

[328] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[329] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[330] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 440. 

[331] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[332] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[333] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[334] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[335] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[336] Reiffenberg (1844), Tome I, Autre cartulaire de Namur, LXXI, p. 225. 

[337] Reiffenberg (1844), Tome I, Autre cartulaire de Namur, CXV, p. 299. 

[338] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 55. 

[339] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 412. 

[340] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 624, no source citation. 

[341] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 624, no source citation. 

[342] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 995, p. 493. 

[343] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citation. 

[344] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citation. 

[345] See ES III 639. 

[346] Michel (1840), p. 165. 

[347] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 351. 

[348] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 353. 

[349] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 356. 

[350] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[351] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 57. 

[352] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes II, 1606, p. 13. 

[353] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LII, p. 87. 

[354] Delisle (1867), 26, p. 17. 

[355] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 368. 

[356] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes II, 1606, p. 13. 

[357] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LII, p. 87. 

[358] Delisle (1867), 61, p. 25. 

[359] Delisle (1867), 123, p. 38. 

[360] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[361] Delisle (1867), 123, p. 38. 

[362] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, CCXVII, p. 357. 

[363] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[364] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[365] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, Part 2, DXX, p. 481. 

[366] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[367] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[368] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 561. 

[369] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[370] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[371] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[372] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 243. 

[373] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[374] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 243. 

[375] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[376] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[377] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[378] Orval, CCCCLIX, p. 476. 

[379] Massonnet, J. ‘Histoire de Chassepierre’, Annales de l’Institut archéologique de Luxembourg, Tome 83 (1953), p. 360. 

[380] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[381] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[382] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[383] Thierry d’Orjo in an email to the author dated 12 Jun 2019, citing Inventaire des archives du Clermontois au fonds Condé, série E (1 E 037) au Château de Chantilly, pp. 1700-1 “sub verbo Chassepierre de la version dact. Google”.  

[384] Thierry d’Orjo in an email to the author dated 12 Jun 2019, citing ES XXVI 71 (corresponding primary sources not yet identified).  

[385] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[386] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[387] Moranvillé ‘La trahison de Jean de Vervins’ (1892), p. 605, footnote 1. 

[388] Smet (1841), Tome I, Chronica Ægidii li Muisis, pp. 267-8

[389] Molinier ‘Chronique de Jean de Noyal’ (1883), p. 253. 

[390] Moranvillé ‘La trahison de Jean de Vervins’ (1892), pp. 605-11. 

[391] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[392] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, CCCCXL, p. 702.  

[393] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 665. 

[394] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[395] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 385. 

[396] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXIV, p. 132. 

[397] Foigny (1879), DXVII, p. 94. 

[398] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 553. 

[399] D’Herbomez (1895), Tome II, Preuves, 75, p. 83. 

[400] Cysoing, CXX, p. 151. 

[401] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[402] Delisle (1867), 141, p. 42. 

[403] Analectes Belgique, Tome VII (1870), p. 367. 

[404] Analectes Belgique, Tome VII (1870), p. 369. 

[405] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 561. 

[406] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 261. 

[407] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 261. 

[408] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 383. 

[409] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 386. 

[410] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 243. 

[411] Le Long (1783), p. 527. 

[412] Le Long (1783), p. 527. 

[413] Hozier de Serigny (1764), Registre 5, Coucy, p. 417. 

[414] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 14, p. 34, citing “Arch. de la Marne”. 

[415] Le Long (1783), p. 527. 

[416] Hozier de Serigny (1764), Registre 5, Coucy, p. 417. 

[417] Hozier de Serigny (1764), Registre 5, Coucy, p. 417. 

[418] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 283. 

[419] Le Long (1783), p. 527. 

[420] Hozier de Serigny (1764), Registre 5, Coucy, pp. 417-23. 

[421] Hozier de Serigny (1764), Registre 5, Coucy, p. 418. 

[422] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1883), Tome 14, p. 37. 

[423] Hozier de Serigny (1764), Registre 5, Coucy, p. 418. 

[424] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 930, p. 460. 

[425] Flodoard 923, MGH SS III, p. 372. 

[426] Flodoard 924, 925, MGH SS III, pp. 373-5. 

[427] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, I, Chronique d’Alard de Gennilule abbé de Signy, p. 594. 

[428] Flodoard 926, MGH SS III, p. 376. 

[429] Flodoard 944, MGH SS III, p. 392. 

[430] Flodoard 945, MGH SS III, p. 391. 

[431] Flodoard 947, MGH SS III, p. 394. 

[432] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, p. 155. 

[433] Cluny, Tome I, 730, p. 685. 

[434] Flodoard 948, MGH SS III, p. 397. 

[435] Flodoard 949, MGH SS III, p. 399. 

[436] Flodoardi Annales 949, MGH SS III, p. 398. 

[437] Flodoardi Annales 950, MGH SS III, p. 400. 

[438] Flodoardi Annales 953, MGH SS III, p. 402. 

[439] Flodoardi Annales 954, MGH SS III, p. 402. 

[440] McKitterick (1983), p. 321. 

[441] Flodoardi Annales 955, MGH SS III, p. 403. 

[442] Flodoardi Annales 966, MGH SS III, p. 407. 

[443] Varin (1844) Archives administratives de Reims, Tome I, Part 2, p. 169. 

[444] Varin (1844) Archives administratives de Reims, Tome I, Part 2, p. 80. 

[445] Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis, Spicilegium II, p. 470. 

[446] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407. 

[447] RHGF, Tome IX, p. 105. 

[448] Bouchard (1987), p. 169. 

[449] Bouchard (1987), p. 269, citing Siegfried of Gorze, letter to Poppo of Stablo, in Gisebrecht, W. von (ed.) (1885) Geschichte der deutschen Kaizerseit, 5th ed., II (Leipzig), pp. 714-8. 

[450] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407. 

[451] Cluny, Tome III, 2742, p. 765, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 270. 

[452] Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368. 

[453] Cluny, Tome II, 1198, p. 280. 

[454] Mâcon Saint-Vincent, 7, p. 6. 

[455] Rodulfus Glaber, III.6, p. 105. 

[456] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 163. 

[457] When his wife's second husband first appears as Comte de Mâcon, Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368, and 1580, p. 624, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 264. 

[458] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. 

[459] Hugonis Floriacensis, Genealogia Comitum Flandriæ, MGH SS IX, p. 369. 

[460] Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis, Spicilegium, Tome II, p. 473. 

[461] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, p. 155. 

[462] Rodulfus Glaber III.6, p. 105. 

[463] Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de Dijon 980, pp. 128-29.   

[464] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 980, MGH SS XXIII, p. 772. 

[465] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. 

[466] Necrology, quoted in Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de Dijon 980, p. 128 footnote 3.   

[467] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. 

[468] Halphen & Lot (1908), LXIII, p. 149. 

[469] Varin (1839) Archives administratives de Reims, Tome I, Part 1, p. 85 footnote continued from earlier pages, citing “Bibl. Roy. mss. Reims, cart. VI”. 

[470] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[471] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 862. 

[472] Mathieu 'La succession au comté de Roucy' (2000), p. 79. 

[473] Genealogiæ Fuscniacenses 3, MGH SS XIII, p. 252. 

[474] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1023, MGH SS XXIII, p. 782. 

[475] Moranvillé ‘Origine de la maison de Roucy’ (1922), pp. 40-3. 

[476] RHGF, Tome X, LII, p. 400. 

[477] Chronici Centulensis, Liber IV, Caput III, Spicilegium (1723), Tome II, p. 332. 

[478] Annales Mosomagenses, MGH SS III, p. 161. 

[479] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 80. 

[480] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783. 

[481] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 3 and 11, MGH SS XIII, pp. 252 and 254. 

[482] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783. 

[483] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10 and 11, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[484] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 18. 

[485] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 20 & 21. 

[486] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783. 

[487] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[488] Marlot (1846), Vol. III, XCVIII, p. 759. 

[489] Varin (1844) Statuts, Vol. I, p. 90. 

[490] Genealogiæ Fuscniacenses 3, MGH SS XIII, p. 252. 

[491] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 3 and 9, MGH SS XIII, pp. 252 and 253. 

[492] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[493] Murray (2000), p. 173, citing Trésor des chartes de Rethel, Vol. 1, no.1. 

[494] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794. 

[495] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[496] Pontoise Saint-Martin, XIV, p. 12. 

[497] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’ (1861), Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451. 

[498] Lecoy de la Marche (1867), Suger Vita Ludovici Grossi Regis III, p. 19. 

[499] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1068, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[500] Anna Comnena (1969), Book 1, p. 61.   

[501] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’, Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451. 

[502] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[503] Lecoy de la Marche (1867), Suger Vita Ludovici Grossi Regis V, p. 19. 

[504] Annales Mosomagenses, MGH SS III, p. 162. 

[505] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[506] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[507] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[508] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[509] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[510] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[511] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[512] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 25. 

[513] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[514] Chronicon Lætiense 3, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[515] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[516] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[517] William of Tyre XIV.XV, p. 627. 

[518] William of Tyre XIV.XV, p. 628, which says he was "fratri comitis Namura". 

[519] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[520] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[521] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[522] Valroy, I, p. 135. 

[523] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[524] Valroy, IV, p. 138. 

[525] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[526] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 26. 

[527] ES III 677. 

[528] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[529] Valroy, I, p. 135. 

[530] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[531] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[532] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[533] ES III 677. 

[534] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 24. 

[535] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 24. 

[536] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 25. 

[537] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[538] Valroy, I, p. 135. 

[539] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[540] Valroy, IV, p. 138. 

[541] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[542] Valroy, VI, p. 140. 

[543] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[544] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[545] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[546] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[547] Valroy, IV, p. 138. 

[548] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[549] Valroy, VI, p. 140. 

[550] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[551] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[552] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[553] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXIX, p. 184. 

[554] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, p. 175 foonote 1, citing Archives de l’Etat à Arlon, fonds Saint-Hubert, 45, H. 1. 

[555] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[556] Valroy, VI, p. 140. 

[557] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[558] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[559] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[560] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[561] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 35. 

[562] Laborde, J. B. de (1780) Essai sur la Musique ancienne et moderne (Paris), Tome 2, p. 248. 

[563] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 214. 

[564] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[565] Gislebert de Mons (Vanderkindere) (1904), p. 69. 

[566] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[567] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 34. 

[568] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[569] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[570] Gilbert de Mons (Napran, 2005), p. 41, footnote 1179 (no source cited). 

[571] ES III 677. 

[572] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[573] Valroy, VI, p. 140. 

[574] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[575] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[576] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[577] Moret de la Fayole (1675), pp. 35-6. 

[578] Valroy, VIII, p. 144. 

[579] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXI, p. 174. 

[580] Valroy, VIII, p. 144. 

[581] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXI, p. 174. 

[582] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[583] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[584] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 35. 

[585] Valroy, VI, p. 140. 

[586] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[587] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[588] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[589] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[590] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[591] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[592] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[593] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 33. 

[594] Valroy, VIII, p. 144. 

[595] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXI, p. 174. 

[596] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[597] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[598] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[599] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[600] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[601] Foigny (1879), CCCLII, p. 62. 

[602] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[603] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[604] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[605] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 384. 

[606] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 220. 

[607] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[608] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[609] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[610] Valroy, VII, p. 142. 

[611] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[612] Valroy, IV, p. 138. 

[613] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[614] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[615] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[616] Valroy, XI, p. 146. 

[617] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[618] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[619] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 823. 

[620] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 29. 

[621] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[622] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[623] Chronicon Lætiense 3, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[624] Chronicon Lætiense 5, MGH SS XIV, p. 495. 

[625] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[626] Chronicon Lætiense 5, MGH SS XIV, p. 495. 

[627] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[628] Chronicon Lætiense 5, MGH SS XIV, p. 495. 

[629] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[630] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. 

[631] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[632] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165. 

[633] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[634] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[635] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[636] Foigny (1879), CCCLII, p. 62. 

[637] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159. 

[638] Valroy, L, p. 182. 

[639] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[640] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[641] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 32. 

[642] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[643] Foigny (1879), CCCLII, p. 62. 

[644] Valroy, L, p. 182. 

[645] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[646] Toussaints du Plessis (1728), Pièces Justificatives, XXX, p. 148. 

[647] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 355. 

[648] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 384. 

[649] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 220. 

[650] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[651] Valroy, L, p. 182. 

[652] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[653] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[654] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[655] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CLXXXVIII, p. 242. 

[656] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[657] Duchesne (1631), Dreux, Preuves, p. 260. 

[658] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 947. 

[659] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 50. 

[660] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 50. 

[661] Moret de la Fayole (1675), pp. 51-3. 

[662] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 51, and Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 35. 

[663] Foigny (1879), CCCXVII, p. 56. 

[664] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[665] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[666] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 371. 

[667] Funck-Brentano, F. (1899) Chronique Artésienne (Paris), p. 21. 

[668] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 2. 

[669] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 54. 

[670] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 55. 

[671] L’Art de Vérifier les Dates, Tome XII (Paris, 1818)p. 290.  Information sent by Serge d’Isernia by email 29 Apr 2024. 

[672] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 282. 

[673] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 867. 

[674] Duchesne (1631), Dreux, pp. 98-9, 104. 

[675] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 54. 

[676] Duchesne (1631), Dreux, p. 100. 

[677] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 54. 

[678] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 54. 

[679] Père Anselme, Tome VIII, p. 867. 

[680] Duchesne (1631), Dreux, p. 100. 

[681] Ménage (1683), Tome I, p. 210. 

[682] Van Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 316. 

[683] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[684] Vathaire de Guerchy, A. ‘La Puisaye sous les maisons de Toucy et de Bar’, Bulletin de la Société des sciences historiques et naturelles de l’Yonne, Année 1925, Vol. 79 (Auxerre, 1926), p. 138. 

[685] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[686] Moret de la Fayole (1675), pp. 56-8. 

[687] Moret de la Fayole (1675), pp. 58, 60. 

[688] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 309. 

[689] Boutaric (1867), Vol. II, 6719, p. 432. 

[690] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33 

[691] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 60. 

[692] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 651 (no citation reference). 

[693] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33. 

[694] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 160. 

[695] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 292. 

[696] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 65. 

[697] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 587, 589, no citation reference. 

[698] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 589, no citation reference. 

[699] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33. 

[700] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[701] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 145. 

[702] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 149. 

[703] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 282. 

[704] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 39. 

[705] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 39. 

[706] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[707] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 42. 

[708] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 406, pp. 280, 327. 

[709] Ménage (1683), Tome I, p. 210. 

[710] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 289. 

[711] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 366, p. 230. 

[712] Actes royaux du Poitou, Tome 3, CCCLVIII, p. 33. 

[713] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 160. 

[714] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 65. 

[715] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 748, p. 376. 

[716] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 69. 

[717] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 589-90, no citation reference. 

[718] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 748, p. 376. 

[719] ES III 680. 

[720] For example: Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 590, and Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 68. 

[721] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citation. 

[722] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 747, p. 376. 

[723] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citation. 

[724] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 445. 

[725] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 442. 

[726] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 747, p. 376. 

[727] Duchesne (1631), Guines, p. 279. 

[728] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 749, p. 376. 

[729] Vallet de Viriville (1859), Fragments de la Geste des Nobles François, Chap. 106, p. 129. 

[730] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 625, no source citations. 

[731] Moret de la Fayole (1675), pp. 77-8. 

[732] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 745, p. 374. 

[733] Moriondus (1790), Pars II, Historiam Aquensem,Monferratensem ac Pedemontanam, col. 179. 

[734] State Archives, volume 25, page 17, fascicule 19

[735] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 746, p. 375. 

[736] Dubois ‘Titres de la maison d’Albret’, p. 157. 

[737] Dubois ‘Titres de la maison d’Albret’, p. 160. 

[738] Père Anselme, Tome I, p. 323. 

[739] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 1206, p. 561. 

[740] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 745, p. 374. 

[741] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, p. 624, no source citation. 

[742] Rodière (1925) Epitaphier, 995, p. 493. 

[743] Tréport Saint-Michel, 1, p. 1. 

[744] Tréport Saint-Michel, 1, p. 1. 

[745] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 5, p. 6. 

[746] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 5, p. 6. 

[747] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 5, p. 6. 

[748] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 5, p. 6. 

[749] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 8. 

[750] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[751] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[752] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[753] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[754] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209. 

[755] Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis, MGH SS XVI, p. 489. 

[756] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1143, MGH SS XXIII, p. 837. 

[757] Sigeberti Continuatio Praemonstratensis 1143, MGH SS VI, p. 452. 

[758] Sigeberti Continuatio Praemonstratensis 1146, MGH SS VI, p. 453. 

[759] Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis, MGH SS XVI, p. 489. 

[760] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1147, MGH SS XXIII, p. 839. 

[761] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 128. 

[762] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209. 

[763] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 129. 

[764] Brogne Necrology, p. 338. 

[765] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1119, MGH SS XXIII, p. 824. 

[766] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, XCII, p. 117. 

[767] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CV, p. 130. 

[768] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, CXXXIX, p. 184. 

[769] Ardenne Saint-Hubert, Tome I, p. 175 foonote 1, citing Archives de l’Etat à Arlon, fonds Saint-Hubert, 45, H. 1. 

[770] Saint-Vincent de Laon, XXV, p. 209. 

[771] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 129. 

[772] Saint-Amand, VIII, p. 158. 

[773] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 131. 

[774] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103. 

[775] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165. 

[776] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[777] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 1ère Partie, p. 21. 

[778] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[779] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[780] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 144, p. 151. 

[781] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. 

[782] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[783] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878. 

[784] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508. 

[785] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103. 

[786] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165. 

[787] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[788] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[789] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159. 

[790] Valroy, L, p. 182. 

[791] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[792] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[793] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165. 

[794] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[795] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[796] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[797] Valroy, L, p. 182. 

[798] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[799] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39. 

[800] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135. 

[801] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 579. 

[802] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[803] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[804] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115. 

[805] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Southwark, St Mary Overey Priory, III, p. 171. 

[806] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852. 

[807] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878. 

[808] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1227, MGH SS XXIII, p. 919. 

[809] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1227, MGH SS XXIII, p. 920. 

[810] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1229, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 923-4. 

[811] Brogne Necrology, p. 313. 

[812] Signy, LII, p. 18. 

[813] Signy, LII, p. 18. 

[814] Signy, LII, p. 18. 

[815] Angers Saint-Aubin, Tome I, 2, p. 4. 

[816] Dormay (1664), Vol. II, Livre V, Chap. I, p. 3. 

[817] RHGF, Tome IX, XXIV, p. 634. 

[818] RHGF, Tome IX, XLI, p. 654. 

[819] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta, col. 359. 

[820] Gerbert, 40, p. 38. 

[821] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720. 

[822] ES III 729 A. 

[823] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720. 

[824] ES III 729 A. 

[825] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720. 

[826] ES III 729 A. 

[827] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436. 

[828] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 11 and 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[829] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Pontificum abbreviata per canonicum Cameracensem, 8, MGH SS VII, p. 505. 

[830] Marmoutier-Dunois XXII, p. 22. 

[831] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436. 

[832] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277. 

[833] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250. 

[834] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277. 

[835] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, II, p. 425. 

[836] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, LXIX, p. 457. 

[837] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 11 and 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[838] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794. 

[839] Liber Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs XII, p. 28. 

[840] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277. 

[841] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[842] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[843] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[844] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, I, p. 1. 

[845] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274. 

[846] Beauvillé (1867), Part II, I, p. 1. 

[847] ES III 15. 

[848] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[849] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Manasses et Walcheri, 1, 2, 3, MGH SS VII, p. 500. 

[850] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Pontificum abbreviata per canonicum Cameracensem, 8, MGH SS VII, p. 505. 

[851] Chronicon S. Andreæ Castri Cameracesii, Liber II, 19, MGH SS VII, p. 544. 

[852] Sigeberti Continuatio auctarium Aquicinense 1095, MGH SS VI, p. 394. 

[853] Sigeberti Continuatio auctarium Aquicinense 1105, MGH SS VI, p. 395. 

[854] Gesta Galcheri Episcopi Cameracensis, 28, MGH SS XIV, p. 204. 

[855] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, col. 355. 

[856] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[857] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[858] Hémeré, C. (1643) Augusta Viromanduorum (Paris), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37. 

[859] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[860] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. 

[861] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[862] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[863] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[864] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXI, p. 169. 

[865] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 527. 

[866] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509. 

[867] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXI, p. 169. 

[868] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 500. 

[869] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[870] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[871] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXII, p. 315. 

[872] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 500. 

[873] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[874] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[875] Amiens, I, 26, p. 35. 

[876] Giry (1877) Pièces Justificatives V, p. 378. 

[877] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 34, MGH SS XIV, p. 287. 

[878] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 506. 

[879] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CXIV, p. 717. 

[880] Lalaing (1849), Chartes et documents, p. 351. 

[881] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[882] Soissons Saint-Léger, XVIII, p. 60. 

[883] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXI, p. 169. 

[884] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXC, p. 173. 

[885] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 527. 

[886] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 528. 

[887] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 527. 

[888] Tardif (1866), 635, p. 315. 

[889] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXII, p. 169. 

[890] Tardif (1866), 689, p. 337, full text available at <http://vieux-marcoussis.pagesperso-orange.fr/Chroniques/auguste1.htm> [22 Mar 2011]. 

[891] Beauvillé (1881), Part IV, XVIII, p. 24. 

[892] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[893] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXII, p. 169. 

[894] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796. 

[895] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXII, p. 169. 

[896] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1235, MGH SS XXIII, p. 940. 

[897] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6. 

[898] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11. 

[899] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez

[900] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170. 

[901] Tremblay-en-France 5. 

[902] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 16r. 

[903] Simonnet (1876), p. 76. 

[904] Regnault (1633), p. 114. 

[905] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 256. 

[906] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[907] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, pp. 560 and 562. 

[908] Regnault (1633), pp. 114-15, 221. 

[909] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 16r. 

[910] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[911] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 7ème Partie, p. 188. 

[912] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes V, 407, p. 133. 

[913] Barthélemy ‘Grandpré’ (1882), Tome 13, p. 186, citing “Cartul. de Bar, fo. 70”. 

[914] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[915] Val-Notre-Dame, I, p. 7. 

[916] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye du Val, p. 631.       

[917] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[918] Pontoise Saint-Martin CCXIX, p. 169. 

[919] Chronicon Beccensis Abbatiæ (1648), p. 10. 

[920] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Tome III, 565, p. 166. 

[921] Val-Notre-Dame, IV, p. 9. 

[922] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[923] Hardy, I. (2009) Les chansons attribuées au trouvère picard Raoul de Soissons (thesis University of Ottawa) consulted at <http://www.francaisancien.net/activites/textes/ineke/index.htm>, and <http://www.francaisancien.net/activites/textes/ineke/Histoire/Vie.htm> (11 Oct 2020). 

[924] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[925] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 449. 

[926] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 18v. 

[927] Runciman (1978), Vol. 3, p. 221. 

[928] Runciman (1978), Vol. 3, p. 221. 

[929] William of Tyre (Continuator) XXXIII.LIII, p. 423. 

[930] William of Tyre (Continuator) XXXIII.L, p. 420, and Runciman (1978), Vol. 3, p. 222. 

[931] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 236. 

[932] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 18v. 

[933] Pollastri, S. ‘Gli insediamenti di cavalieri francesi nel Messogiorno alla fine del 13o secolo’, Rassegna Storica dei Comuni, Anno XXXIII (nuova serie), n. 150-151, Sep-Dec 2008 (Instituto di Studi Atellani), pp. 16, 38, available at <http://www.iststudiatell.org/rsc/annate_11/RSC_150_151.pdf> (11 Oct 2020). 

[934] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 115. 

[935] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 17v. 

[936] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 20v. 

[937] Hardy (2009) Raoul de Soissons, citing Newman, W. (1971) Les Seigneurs de Nesle en Picardie (XIIe-XIIIe siècle), Vol. I (Paris), p. 68 [not yet consulted]. 

[938] William of Tyre (Continuator) XXXIII.L, p. 420. 

[939] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[940] Philippe de Novare (1913), p. 94. 

[941] Runciman (1978), Vol. 3, p. 221. 

[942] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[943] Goethals (1851) Roye, p. 8. 

[944] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 17r. 

[945] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 17v. 

[946] Saint-Genois (1782), Vol. I, p. 629. 

[947] Psalter pictured at <https://www.themorgan.org/manuscript/128492> (11 Oct 2020). 

[948] Stones, A. ‘Some Portraits of Women in Their Books, late 13th-early 14th Century’, Legaré, A. L. (compiler) Livres et Lectures de Femmes en Europe entre Moyen âge et Renaissance (Brépols), pp. 11-14, at <https://www.mgh-bibliothek.de/dokumente/b/b045470.pdf> (11 Oct 2020). 

[949] Dugdale, Baronage (1675/76), p. 338. 

[950] Calendar Close Rolls Edward I 1272-1279, pp. 450, 518. 

[951] Calendar Close Rolls Edward I 1288-1296, p. 470. 

[952] Clay ‘The Clifford Family’ (1905), p. 355. 

[953] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[954] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 17v. 

[955] Pollastri ‘Gli insediamenti di cavalieri francesi nel Messogiorno alla fine del 13o secolo’, Rassegna Storica dei Comuni, Anno XXXIII (nuova serie), n. 150-151, Sep-Dec 2008, pp. 16, 38 [see above for website address]. 

[956] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[957] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[958] ES XIII 27. 

[959] I am grateful to Bert M. Kamp for highlighting the question and for his related discussions. 

[960] Bert M. Kamp, by emails dated 15 Dec 2020 and 3 Mar 2021. 

[961] Lejeune ‘Abbaye de la Thure’ (1867), Pièces justificatives, I, p. 270. 

[962] Lejeune ‘Abbaye de la Thure’ (1867), Pièces justificatives, IX, p. 276. 

[963] Bernier ‘Notice sur Barbençon’ (1871), p. 394. 

[964] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 3ème Partie, p. 99. 

[965] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[966] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 446. 

[967] Martin & Jacob (1837), Vol. II, p. 117, no source citation. 

[968] Martin & Jacob (1837), Vol. II, p. 117, no source citation. 

[969] Beauvoir, 43, p. 206. 

[970] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 18v. 

[971] Hardy (2009) Raoul de Soissons, citing Newman (1971), Vol. I, p. 67 [not yet consulted]. 

[972] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 256. 

[973] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 115. 

[974] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[975] Hardy (2009) Raoul de Soissons

[976] Martin & Jacob (1837), Vol. II, p. 117, no source citations. 

[977] Beauvoir, 43, p. 206. 

[978] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 18v. 

[979] Mabille ‘Collection Dom Housseau’ (1864), Tome XIV, 2373, p. 271, citing ‘Cartul. de l’abbaye de Fontaines, fol. 30 v’. 

[980] Mabille ‘Collection Dom Housseau’ (1864), Tome XIV, 2794, p. 334, citing ‘St. Martin - Pancarte blanche, fo. 119 v’. 

[981] Angot ‘Vicomtes du Maine, Cartulaire’ (1914), CCCIX, p. 423. 

[982] Angot ‘Vicomtes du Maine, Cartulaire’ (1914), CCCXI, p. 423. 

[983] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 561. 

[984] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[985] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 18v. 

[986] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[987] Liège Saint-Lambert, Tome I, CCCXLIII, p. 422. 

[988] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 18v. 

[989] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[990] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, Part 2, DLXXII, p. 531. 

[991] Devillers (1867), Tome III, CXII, p. 53. 

[992] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 21v. 

[993] Hardy (2009) Raoul de Soissons, citing Newman (1971), Vol. I, p. 68 [not yet consulted]. 

[994] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[995] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, Part 2, DLXXII, p. 531. 

[996] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 21v. 

[997] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[998] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[999] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[1000] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 206. 

[1001] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 207. 

[1002] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 504, citing Regnault Histoire de Soissons, preuves, p. 22 [not yet consulted]. 

[1003] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164 (no primary source cited). 

[1004] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164 (no primary source cited). 

[1005] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 505. 

[1006] Carolus-Barré ‘Renaut seigneur de Dargies’, Vol. II (1969), pp. 704 and 717, quoting Archives dép. Oise, H 4276 (fonds de l’abbaye cistercienne de Beaupré). 

[1007] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164 (no primary source cited). 

[1008] RHGF, Tome XX, Continuatio Chronici Guillelmi de Nangiaco, p. 601. 

[1009] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome II, p. 164. 

[1010] Saint-Genois (1782), Tome I, p. 460. 

[1011] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 186. 

[1012] Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 207. 

[1013] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Appendice, 2, p. 463. 

[1014] ES XIII 93. 

[1015] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[1016] Chronique Artésienne (1899), p. 49. 

[1017] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 295. 

[1018] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 678. 

[1019] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 678. 

[1020] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, pp. 436-7. 

[1021] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 436. 

[1022] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 20v. 

[1023] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[1024] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 115. 

[1025] Regnault (1633), Preuves, fol. 20v. 

[1026] Röhricht (1893) 80, p. 18. 

[1027] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[1028] Jully-les-Nonains, p. 13. 

[1029] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1030] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[1031] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 289.       

[1032] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extraits du Martyrologe de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[1033] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 2. 

[1034] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[1035] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1036] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[1037] Basse-Fontaine, 95, p. 122. 

[1038] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 289.       

[1039] Yonne, Tome I, CCLI, p. 402. 

[1040] Plancher (1739), Tome I, Preuves, LXVIII, p.xlv. 

[1041] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[1042] Gallia Christiana, Tome X, Instrumenta ecclesiæ Remensis, XXXVIII, col. 39. 

[1043] Jully-les-Nonnains, p. 13. 

[1044] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extraits du Martyrologe de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[1045] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1046] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extraits du Martyrologe de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[1047] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[1048] Mores, p. 45. 

[1049] Troyes Saint-Pierre, 14, p. 18. 

[1050] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 234, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Yved de Braine

[1051] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846. 

[1052] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6. 

[1053] Notre-Dame de la Trappe II, p. 2. 

[1054] Ex Chronico Fiscannensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 350. 

[1055] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1056] Ex historia cœnobii Mortui-Maris, RHGF, Tome XIV, p. 510. 

[1057] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1058] Chastellux (1869), Pièces justificatives, IV, p. 248. 

[1059] Petit, E. (1888) Histoire des ducs de Bourgogne de la race Capétienne (Paris), Vol. II, p. 481. 

[1060] Petit, Vol. II, p. 480. 

[1061] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[1062] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1063] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 11, p. 11. 

[1064] Ulmoy, p. 121. 

[1065] Troyes Saint-Loup, 7, p. 22. 

[1066] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ. 

[1067] Yonne II, CCXXXIV, p. 251. 

[1068] Molesme II, 259, p. 241. 

[1069] Basse-Fontaine 5, p. 6. 

[1070] Basse-Fontaine 13, p. 18. 

[1071] Jully-les-Nonnains, p. 13. 

[1072] Jully-les-Nonnains, p. 13. 

[1073] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[1074] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[1075] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[1076] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[1077] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1858, 4e série, t. 4, p. 185. 

[1078] Lille Saint-Pierre, Tome I, LXX, p. 74. 

[1079] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodem ad Regem spectantibus, 223, p. 656. 

[1080] Dugdale Monasticon III, Shrewsbury Abbey, XI, Genealogia Dominorum Bellismontium, p. 522.   

[1081] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 307.       

[1082] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 285.       

[1083] Montreuil-sur-Mer, IV, p. 4. 

[1084] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Joyenval, p. 307.       

[1085] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[1086] Montreuil-sur-Mer, IV, p. 4. 

[1087] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 221. 

[1088] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[1089] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, MGH SS XXV, p. 437. 

[1090] Ninove, CCXLVIII, p. 940. 

[1091] Chronique Artésienne (1899), p. 50. 

[1092] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[1093] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[1094] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 175. 

[1095] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[1096] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[1097] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[1098] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 178. 

[1099] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[1100] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[1101] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 180. 

[1102] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 176. 

[1103] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 334. 

[1104] Goethals (1862), Tome II, p. 794, no citation reference. 

[1105] Du Chesne (1639) Béthune, Preuves, p. 168.